[04:23]  * Kilos waves to tumbleweed 
[04:40] <tumbleweed> hi
[05:53] <bduk1> More almal
[05:53] <Kilos> môre bduk1 
[06:35] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy Squirm[Mac] 
[06:54] <Squirm[Mac]> 'lo
[07:13] <superfly> hi Squirm[Mac]
[07:38] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:44] <superfly> If anyone is interested, I'm seeding the UKZN talk by RMS from both my VPSes, so you should get good download speeds
[07:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo peeps
[07:51] <superfly> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:12] <Kilos> hi inetpro superfly 
[08:21] <Squirm[Mac]> busy morning
[09:08] <Spekko> More Kilos
[09:08] <Spekko> hey guys
[09:08] <Spekko> anyone here familiar with Jenkins ?
[09:08] <Kilos> hi Spekko 
[10:15] <gremble> o/
[11:24] <superfly> Spekko: yes, me
[11:49] <Spekko> superfly: how long do you think it would take to setup Jenkins for about 4 projects? With monitoring pluging ect.
[12:28] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:36] <Kilos> hi gremble drussell 
[13:13] <not_found> music - http://grooveshark.com/s/Get+Lucky/6KpfWR?src=3
[14:17] <Kilos> hi not_found tell me about that song first
[14:17] <Kilos> TinuvaMa_, your connection sucks
[14:17] <Kilos> you too gremble 
[14:18] <TinuvaMa_> actually my connection is way way better than yours
[14:21] <Kilos> oh no, maybe faster but not as stable
[14:22] <Kilos> i dont part /join all day
[14:22] <TinuvaMa_> its super stable, the laptop is just reconnecting when it sleeps
[14:22] <Kilos> or is that your idle thing
[14:22] <Kilos> well fix the laptop man. you okes are clever
[14:23] <Kilos> and you only get 63 mb/s more than me in speed
[14:23] <Kilos> hehe
[14:26] <TinuvaMa_> on wired i get 100Mbps
[14:28] <Kilos> thats only 95 Mb/s more than me
[14:28] <superfly> Spekko: it totally depends on how complicated your setup is
[14:29] <Kilos> just as well, with that kind of speed id never have any data left
[14:38] <TinuvaMa_> i am highly annoyed tho, that usb vga display is stupidly slow on osx
[14:38] <TinuvaMa_> that is the one thing that will make me install another OS on here
[14:41] <Kilos> they surely have a way to speed it up
[14:42] <Kilos> upgrade graphics driver
[14:53] <not_found> hi uncle Kilos ... it is a german band covering pop songs in russia polka style :p
[14:54]  * not_found just assembled a braai... now to use it :)
[14:58] <Kilos> lol
[14:59] <Kilos> camels steaks could be lekker
[15:03] <Squirm[Mac]> 'lo
[15:03] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[15:14] <Squirm[Mac]> mmm
[15:14] <Squirm[Mac]> home time
[15:15] <Squirm[Mac]> yeah... let me go home
[15:15] <Kilos> go safe lad
[16:53] <not_found> braai done... nou is ek duk
[16:53] <not_found> dik
[16:53] <not_found> >.<
[17:00] <bushtech> magie vol ogies toe
[17:00] <Kilos> first braai in ahab land
[17:01] <Kilos> did you have pap and onion and tomato gravy with it not_found 
[17:03] <Kilos> bushtech, run sudo aptitude -f
[17:03] <gremble> ahab land?
[17:03] <Kilos> uae
[17:03] <gremble> Ah
[17:04] <gremble> Is it not immoral to have braais there?
[17:04] <Kilos> i think they live on dates and camel milk
[17:04] <not_found> nah uncle Kilos ... still have to teach the wife how to make pap the way I like it... she is always on the slap pap :p
[17:04] <Kilos> so you do things behind locked doors
[17:05] <Kilos> lol slap pap lekker too man
[17:05] <not_found> nah uncle Kilos ... this is the third time I have braaied... but with all the safa's here we have been to many braais
[17:05] <not_found> tomorrow is potjie tume
[17:05] <not_found> *time
[17:05] <Kilos> yum
[17:05] <not_found> braai is very popular in the middle east
[17:06] <not_found> or at least all the countries people I have had to do with here
[17:06] <Kilos> proper braai? or throw some meat on the coals and hope for the best?
[17:06] <Kilos> braai well is an art
[17:07] <Kilos> i like mine medium rare to rare
[17:08] <Kilos> maak dit net skrik met die vuur
[17:08] <not_found> nah, they don't braai well but they like the idea :p
[17:08] <not_found> they try
[17:10] <Kilos> haha
[17:10] <Kilos> teach them
[17:10] <bushtech> Kilos, why?
[17:12] <Kilos> to see bushtech 
[17:12] <Kilos> can be used to fix things and more
[17:12] <Kilos> you need the pro to explain it all
[17:13] <Kilos> seems like quite a nifty tool to me
[17:13] <not_found> nah that is ok... if there is one thing I learnt here is that you can't teach someone that doesn't want to learn :)
[17:13] <Kilos> i used it now now to fix broken packages
[17:13] <Kilos> lol not_found 
[17:14] <Kilos> then braai and sell to them
[17:14] <not_found> :)
[17:14] <bushtech> Ah, bit like fix missing
[17:14] <Kilos> ya
[17:14] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:23] <Kilos> bushtech, it opens a window with options
[17:23] <Kilos> like an aptitude gui thing
[18:54] <bushtech> Thanks Kilos , works well
[18:54] <Kilos> aha
[18:55] <Kilos> i still got to sort out what all it can do
[18:55] <bushtech> using it on my 1404 machine
[18:56] <Kilos> found it here http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/482
[18:56] <Kilos> but i think the pro told me to try it before
[18:59] <Kilos> i installed gtkorphan as well but dont know what it does or how
[19:05] <inetpro> good even ing
[19:09] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[19:09] <Kilos> can you embroider on sudo aptitude -f for us please
[19:09] <Kilos> now dont say uh!
[19:09] <Kilos> or man
[19:10] <inetpro> uh?
[19:10] <not_found> so anyone seen the trailer for "Chappie"
[19:11] <not_found> hugh jackman and the antwoord starring in the same movie >.<
[19:11] <Kilos> ai!
[19:13] <inetpro> Kilos: uh is an interjection, used to express hesitation or uncertainty
[19:13] <inetpro> or, used in questions to invite agreement or further comment or to express a lack of understanding
[19:13] <Kilos> you not allowed to be hesitant or uncertain
[19:14] <Kilos> you the aptitude man
[19:14]  * inetpro seldom needs 'aptitude -f' these days
[19:15] <Kilos> note - these days
[19:15] <inetpro> don't give people wrong advice
[19:15] <inetpro> really not a good idea to use -f
[19:16] <Kilos> thats why i asked you to embroider because im not  sure what all it can do
[19:16] <inetpro> man aptitude says; "-f :  Try hard to fix the dependencies of broken packages, even if it means ignoring the actions requested on the command line."
[19:16] <inetpro> embroider?
[19:16] <Kilos> uitbrei
[19:16] <inetpro> Maaz: define embroider
[19:16] <Maaz> inetpro: Embroider \Em*broid"er\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Embroidered}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Embroidering}.] [OE. embrouden. See {Broider}.] To ornament with needlework; as, to embroider a scarf. [1913 Webster]  Thou shalt embroider the coat of fine linen. --Ex. xxviii. 39. [1913 Webster], embroider v 1: decorate with needlework [syn: {embroider}, {broider}] 2: add
[19:16] <Maaz> details to [syn: {embroider}, {pad}, {lard}, {embellish}, {aggrandize}, {aggrandise}, {blow up}…
[19:17] <Kilos> blow up
[19:17] <Kilos> pad
[19:17] <Kilos> lard
[19:17] <Kilos> lard =add fat to it
[19:17] <inetpro> sjoe
[19:17] <inetpro> "2.
[19:17] <inetpro> add fictitious or exaggerated details to (an account) to make it more interesting"
[19:17] <Kilos> rofl
[19:18]  * inetpro learns a new thing every day
[19:19] <Kilos> embellish is what i meant by it i think
[19:19] <Kilos> Maaz, define embellish
[19:19] <Maaz> Kilos: Embellish \Em*bel"lish\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Embellished}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Embellishing}.] [OE. embelisen, embelisshen, F. embellir; pref. em- (L. in) + bel, beau, beautiful. See {Beauty}.] To make beautiful or elegant by ornaments; to decorate; to adorn; as, to embellish a book with pictures, a garden with shrubs and flowers, a narrative with striking
[19:19] <Maaz> anecdotes, or style with metaphors.  Syn: To adorn; beautify; deck; bedeck; decorate; garnis…
[19:19] <Kilos> ai!
[19:19] <inetpro> you mean elaborate?
[19:20] <Kilos> that too ya ty
[19:20] <inetpro> ai!
[19:20] <Kilos> i would trust aptitude with -f
[19:20] <inetpro> no I won't
[19:20] <inetpro> if you need -f something major is wrong
[19:21] <Kilos> ya because you know how to do things properly
[19:21] <Kilos> i had broken packages that i couldnt fix because of some pkg thing but aptitude -f fixed it
[19:22] <Kilos> even synaptic fix broken couldnt fix them
[19:22] <inetpro> sorry but I missed the conversation, what is this about really?
[19:23] <not_found> apt-get has super cow powers
[19:23] <Kilos> fixing things with aptitude -f
[19:23] <Kilos> apt-get --fixbroken didnt wanna fix
[19:24] <inetpro> not_found: moo
[19:24] <inetpro> Kilos: what is it that needs fixing?
[19:25] <Kilos> its fixed
[19:25] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, what is it that needed fixing?
[19:25] <Kilos> i couldnt install anything because something was broken
[19:25] <inetpro> ai!
[19:25] <inetpro> something?
[19:27] <inetpro> Kilos: "something" is a thing that is unspecified or unknown, surely you know what it was?
[19:27] <not_found> the ways of the linux us mysterious
[19:27] <not_found> night night all
[19:27] <Kilos> i cant find the error reports
[19:27] <inetpro> good night not_found
[19:27] <Kilos> night neelsie
[19:29] <Kilos> i tried in synaptic to install flash plugin or something and it said first fix broken packages then it couldnt
[19:31] <Kilos> and inetpro you told me to look at aptitude -f about 6 months ago and i said no place to learn more new things
[19:32] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:32]  * inetpro don't remember that
[19:32] <Kilos> no you wont
[19:33] <Kilos> you old
[19:33] <inetpro> important is that you first find out what packages are broken
[19:33] <Kilos> hi Joe_knock 
[19:33] <Kilos> i didnt know how
[19:33] <Kilos> anyway aptitude -f fixed it
[19:33] <Joe_knock> Hello Kilos 
[19:34] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, next time first try to find out
[19:34] <Kilos> is there a way to fing the text of aptitude error reports
[19:34] <inetpro> -f should be the last option
[19:35] <Joe_knock> Look for the log file and use "cat /path/to/error.log
[19:35] <Kilos> ok 
[19:35] <Joe_knock> *"
[19:35] <Kilos> bushtech, read hey
[19:35] <inetpro> Kilos: have you checked /var/log/aptitude ?
[19:35] <Kilos> where will i find that log file
[19:35] <inetpro> hi Joe_knock
[19:36] <Joe_knock> Hello inetpro 
[19:37] <Kilos> i saw the error in synaptic not aptitude
[19:37] <Joe_knock> inetpro is right. Most log files live in /var/log/
[19:39] <bushtech> Kilos, yep, watching with interest
[19:39] <inetpro> Kilos: a GUI is for those who do not know to use the cli
[19:39] <Kilos> thats me
[19:40] <inetpro> no man, you're way ahead of most others
[19:40] <Kilos> is synaptic fix broken cant fix it i think then -f is about the only thing to use for me anyway
[19:41] <inetpro> aptitude should tell you exactly which package is broken
[19:42] <Kilos> lemme go read /var/log/aptitude maybe it did
[19:42] <bushtech> If you can find the problem in /var/log you can google it and fix it. Better than the shotgun approach
[19:43] <Kilos> google has dropped me before because i dont know whose directions are safe to use
[19:44] <bushtech> fair comment
[19:44] <bushtech> but that's what this irc IS for
[19:45] <Joe_knock> Generally, try looking for answers on askubuntu.com . They will be peer-reviewed.
[19:45] <inetpro> Joe_knock: good point
[19:45] <Joe_knock> or ubuntuforums.com
[19:45] <inetpro> sadly not always the case
[19:46] <bushtech> thanks for that  Joe_knock 
[19:46]  * inetpro love StackExchange
[19:48] <Kilos> ai!
[19:49] <Kilos>    /var/log/aptitude: command not found
[19:49] <superfly> SODD: StackOverflow-driven Development
[19:49] <superfly> Kilos: why would an application be living in the logs folder?
[19:49] <Kilos> ask inetpro superfly 
 Kilos: have you checked /var/log/aptitude ?
[19:50] <superfly> Kilos: inetpro was telling you to look in the log file, not run a command
[19:50] <Kilos> oh
[19:50] <Kilos> lemme see 
[19:50] <bushtech> it means there is nothing aptitude in /var/log
[19:50] <inetpro> Kilos: you're doing it wrong
[19:50] <inetpro> it's a log file
[19:51] <bushtech> cd  /var/log
[19:51] <bushtech> ls
[19:52] <inetpro> but as long as you do it wrong quickly I really don't mind
[19:52] <bushtech> will show you what's in the log directory
[19:52] <Kilos> lol
[19:53] <Kilos> no man this is hard work now, looking for a prob that is fixed
[19:54] <inetpro> doing it wrong can be a better lesson that not doing it at all
[19:55] <inetpro> s/that/than/
[19:55] <Kilos> i see aptitude in /var/log but it aint a directory so i cant cd there
[19:55] <inetpro> ai!
[19:55] <inetpro> less /var/log/aptitude
[19:55] <Kilos> also aptitude.1.gz
[19:56] <inetpro> you can even use 'less /var/log/aptitude.1.gz'
[19:57] <Kilos> i got the error in synaptic so the error report aint in aptitude
[19:58] <Kilos> no more now
[19:58] <Kilos> kop plat
[19:58] <inetpro> forget about it now and remember next time
[19:58] <Kilos> ty for the help
[19:59] <inetpro> and stop stressing about it
[19:59] <Kilos> next time i get an error like that ill ask
[20:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight