[01:52] <stokachu> when did config option 'use-https' get removed from swift-proxy?
[02:07] <stokachu> i think there needs to be some sort of deprecation process for removing existing charm config options
[02:08] <rick_h_> stokachu: the old revision is available still?
[02:08] <stokachu> rick_h_: yea but the installer doesn't have a way to lock into a revision currently
[02:08] <stokachu> probably need to add that on our end
[02:09] <rick_h_> ah
[02:09] <rick_h_> not to argue with you and such that removal of options of charms, expecially promulgated ones, should be standardized to some extent.
[02:09] <rick_h_> but we keep the history so that you can lock revisions and know it'll always work like pinned packages
[08:05] <yaell> Hi guys I need some help. I am trying to add a new container to an existing machine on a maas environment using the command : juju add-machine lxc:1 but I always get the same error message :container failed to start. Does anyone have an idea why this is happening?
[09:05] <gnuoy> gsamfira, are you about at the dev kilo summi
[09:05] <gnuoy> t
[09:05] <gnuoy> ?
[09:05] <gnuoy> I'm having some synctool problems
[11:10] <_1_Sid> QUESTION: hello everybody. i think juju is great. i was wondering if it was also usable for deploying and managing virtual machines on different computers across the network? I would love to manage our VM with the juju GUI.
[11:26] <yaell>  Hi guys I need some help. I am trying to add a new container to an existing machine on a maas environment using the command : juju add-machine lxc:1 but I always get the same error message :container failed to start. Does anyone have an idea why this is happening?
[15:21] <ayr-ton> Theres some plans out there to a agentless juju-master? Like ansible? Recently I run through a problem with my state machine and then I lose access to my agents.
[15:33] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: i dont believe there are any plans to go agentless, no.
[15:33] <lazyPower> that is an unfortunate side-effect of when your bootstrap node goes away, as it handles the proxying to hosts
[15:34] <jrwren> isn't that why we will be supporting HA for bootstrap node?
[15:35] <lazyPower> jrwren: we already support HA Bootstrap nodes
[15:35] <jrwren> lazyPower: ah. in that case, isn't that why we support HA for bootstrap nodes?
[15:35] <lazyPower> juju ensure-availability -  ensure the availability of Juju state servers
[15:36] <lazyPower> That is correct, however its up to the user performing the orchestration to enable this, as its not default behavior.
[15:36] <marcoceppi> also, it won't help if the juju-agent on the node goes away
[15:36] <lazyPower> ^ and that
[15:44] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, other problem is when a juju agent change ip or something like that. I run through that because of some new rules from management guys.
[15:45] <ayr-ton> My state machine is on, but all the agents are with new ips =/
[15:45] <jrwren> i've never run on a cloud where a host changes its IP. ouch.
[15:45] <ayr-ton> and also, my state machine.
[15:45] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: the agent i do believe transmits the IP change back to the bootstrap node, i've had machines reboot on AWS, get a new address and I didn't notice any change in availability
[15:45] <ayr-ton> jrwren, Is because I'm using manual envs.
[15:45] <lazyPower> ah, i'm not 100% sure on the manual provider - that's a good question - let me follow up on that one
[15:46] <marcoceppi> ayr-ton: have you tried restarting the agents on those machines?
[15:46] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, And, if the juju master change IP, how to get connection with it again.
[15:46] <ayr-ton> marcoceppi, yep
[15:46] <ayr-ton> with it again?*
[15:47] <ayr-ton> Part with this problem is, when I make a juju status, I can't contact the juju master, because it have a new ip/domain.
[15:48] <rbasak> sinzui: bug 1390133
[15:48] <mup> Bug #1390133: Information about Vivid is not available in Precise <distro-info (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1390133>
[15:48] <sinzui> thank you rbasak
[15:48] <rbasak> We'll see what happens.
[15:49] <mgz> thanks rbasak
[15:49] <rbasak> Can chase later if nobody responds.
[15:49] <rbasak> AIUI, distro-info-data should be kept up-to-date on all supported releases.
[15:49] <rbasak> Though it might just be Juju that depends on that right now.
[15:52] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: I'm not getting an immediate answer, but I'll be more than happy to follow up with you
[15:52] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: in the event you log out, is there another method I can use to reach out with the answer? If so, hit me with a private message and i'll reach out there.
[16:09] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: i have a solution to triage this, but its some manual effort. We don''t expect the IP's to change out from under the machines - but there are a few config files to edit to repoint agents @ the state server, and to hook your client back up to teh state server.
[16:19] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, a /memoserv
[16:19] <ayr-ton> I normally always online because of the znc.
[16:19] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, So I will reply somehow.
[16:20] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: ack - i'm doing a writeup now for future reference
[16:20] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, Where I need to change the confs? I can test now.
[16:22] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: i'm still cycling on the writeup but here's a quick save with the info: https://gist.github.com/chuckbutler/542b9a62321f3e806daa
[16:26] <ayr-ton> ok
[16:27] <ayr-ton> Interesting. I will test this :D
[16:30] <ayr-ton> Solves my problem x)
[16:31] <lazyPower> gnarly
[16:31] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, http://askubuntu.com/questions/540209/ip-domainname-of-juju-master-or-slaves-changes
[16:31] <ayr-ton> Thank you (:
[16:31] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: i'll get an answer posted shortly as soon as i'm done with this writeup
[16:31] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, I already posted. And I put credits to you.
[16:31] <ayr-ton> Thank you very much.
[16:32] <lazyPower> No problem :)
[16:47] <lazyPower> ayr-ton: thanks for taking the time to drop that on AU - we'll give ya a nice little karma bump for going the extra mile
[17:36] <rbasak> sinzui: 1.20.11 now in trusty-proposed. Go! :)
[17:36] <rbasak> sinzui: also any comment on the distro-info bug?
[17:36] <rbasak> Oh, still building.
[17:37] <sinzui> rbasak, thank you, I do want to add a comment about the precise issue
[17:56] <ayr-ton> lazyPower, No problem to drop this on AU. Thank you for the karma x)
[19:18] <jose> aisrael: ping
[19:18] <aisrael> jose: pong
[19:19] <jose> aisrael: still working on reviewing that 00-setup MP?
[19:21] <aisrael> The mongodb one? Trying to, but I'm running into an issue with it in my local environment.
[19:22] <aisrael> bandwith-related, I think, as it's trying to deploy multiple charms and it's timing out while juju-deployer runs.
[19:24] <jose> aisrael: I
[19:24] <jose> I'm gonna try and deploy on EC2*
[19:25] <jose> though it was a simple permissions change
[19:26] <aisrael> jose: It is. The issue I'm hitting is unrelated to the charm specifically.
[19:42] <jose> tvansteenburgh: ping
[19:42] <tvansteenburgh> jose: pong
[19:42] <jose> tvansteenburgh: question about bundletester, is there a way to specify machine constraints?
[19:43] <jose> I have credits for t1.micros on EC2 and defaults are m1.smalls, they cost
[19:43] <tvansteenburgh> jose:	 as a matter of fact, i'm working on that right now
[19:43] <jose> \o/
[19:43] <jose> for now I'm bootstrapping first and then running, so it catches bootstrap constraints
[19:43] <tvansteenburgh> jose: i'll ping you when it's available, may be this afternoon
[19:43] <jose> awesome, thanks!
[19:44] <tvansteenburgh> np!
[21:12] <mhall119> arosales: marcoceppi: jose: how is the UOS session recruitment going?
[21:18] <arosales> mhall119: I am behind :-/
[21:54] <mhall119> arosales: assign it to jcastro (who's not online to refuse) :)
[21:55] <arosales> mhall119: I like the way you think. He is on vacation this week too
[21:55] <arosales> mhall119: but I will sync up with pat and sure the cloud sessions are set
[21:55] <arosales> if any folks here are interested in having a UOS session give me a ping
[21:56] <arosales> if you want to talk about a new workload on Ubuntu, or workshop using Juju to deploy workloads on ubuntu let me know
[21:56] <mhall119> on vacation? not at ODS?
[21:57] <mhall119> arosales: I do hope that LXD will have at least a session or two
[21:57] <arosales> mhall119: me too :-)
[21:57]  * arosales has already been bugging ubuntu server folks on that on.
[22:05] <arosales> mhall119: https://lists.linuxcontainers.org/pipermail/lxc-devel/2014-November/010817.html was a good post
[22:05] <arosales> mhall119: I am guessing you already saw that though, but just in case . . .
[22:23] <mhall119> yes, but a video is worth a million words (based on word->picture ration and framerates)
[22:37] <themonk> lazyPower, Hi
[22:46] <themonk> can anyone help me with this step, File a bug against charms at https://launchpad.net/charms/+filebug This is used to track the progress of your charm.
[22:46] <themonk> what should i write in summery?
[22:48] <themonk> In what package did you find this bug?
[23:35] <jose> mhall119: asked a couple people around, probably things will be scheduled by the beginning of next week knowing how things are