| RAOF | desrt: Enjoy https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739697 | 00:01 |
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| ubot5 | Gnome bug 739697 in .General "GTK should warn when reparenting a shown window" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 00:01 |
| desrt | brb | 00:03 |
| desrt | hmm... the one time a year i restart my irc host and now i've forgotten yet again how to connect to canonical irc :) | 00:04 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 07:24 |
| seb128 | lut pitti, wie gehts? | 07:29 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:29 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! très bien, merci ! | 07:30 |
| pitti | et toi ? | 07:30 |
| seb128 | très bien aussi, merci ;-) | 07:30 |
| larsu | guten morgen! | 07:40 |
| seb128 | larsu, howdy! | 07:47 |
| didrocks | morning | 08:00 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme ? | 08:01 |
| didrocks | seb128: encore des petits trucs dans la gorge et donc de la toux, mais sinon, ça va ! | 08:02 |
| didrocks | et toi ? | 08:02 |
| pitti | hey larsu | 08:03 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 08:03 |
| mvo | hey seb128, didrocks,pitti and larsu! | 08:03 |
| * pitti waves to mvo, guten Morgen! | 08:03 | |
| didrocks | guten tag pitti & mvo! | 08:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ça va bien merci | 08:03 |
| seb128 | hey mvo | 08:03 |
| pitti | l'équipe du bureau se leve ! | 08:04 |
| didrocks | pitti: le fait d'être + ou - malade me fait me lever plus tard, oui :) | 08:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, certains étaient déjà réveillés ,-) | 08:05 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: oui - les gens comme seb128 qui se leve très tard tous le jours ! | 08:06 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:06 |
| pitti | je 'nai jamais pensé ça il y a quelques mois :) | 08:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, moi non plus ;-) | 08:07 |
| pitti | seb128: est-ce que ce signifie que nous devenons plus vieux :( | 08:09 |
| seb128 | c'est possible... | 08:09 |
| pitti | ok, so how do we stop nm-applet from writing a pointless .gconf/apps/nm-applet/%gconf.xml | 08:10 |
| pitti | it's an outright insult now that it seems to be the only thing still using gconf.. | 08:10 |
| willcooke | bonjour madame | 08:10 |
| pitti | willcooke: "madame"? | 08:10 |
| pitti | bonjour willcooke | 08:10 |
| pitti | willcooke: je vois seulement des hommes ici :/ | 08:11 |
| willcooke | :D | 08:11 |
| TheMuso` | Hey willcooke. | 08:15 |
| willcooke | hi TheMuso` - just getting the little one ready for school and I'll be with you | 08:16 |
| TheMuso` | np | 08:16 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke TheMuso` | 08:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, willcooke, just as another fyi, qtubuntu-media has been fixed in vivid, current desktop-next daily should start and let you log-in now, robert_ancell also have a fix for the "can't click in gtk" issue ... improvements! ;-) | 08:22 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 08:23 |
| willcooke | good start to the day | 08:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: nice! will give it a try :) | 08:25 |
| willcooke | All of a sudden I've got lots of email from the devel mailing list in my inbox | 08:27 |
| * larsu just got an email: "Indicator scroll event broken from Python for 2 years already. Fix is one line. Can you please fix it." | 08:28 | |
| willcooke | I wonder if this is more spam from that nutter yesterday | 08:29 |
| willcooke | e.g. | 08:29 |
| willcooke | "I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS working on a 64 bit AMD. " | 08:29 |
| pitti | yeah, I just got a ton of ubuntu-devel@ mail from 2010 | 08:29 |
| willcooke | oh, yes - it's 2010 | 08:29 |
| pitti | someone who is subscribed apparently bounced a whole lot of old mail | 08:29 |
| didrocks | yeah, quite annoying | 08:30 |
| willcooke | libreoffice update this morning too - thanks Sweetshark | 08:38 |
| * seb128 grrs at the new gtk | 08:38 | |
| seb128 | http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gtkfs.png | 08:38 |
| seb128 | new - old (fileselector) | 08:39 |
| willcooke | oh yeah | 08:39 |
| seb128 | It looks like they are trying to push some touch ui on desktop | 08:39 |
| seb128 | looks weird to me | 08:39 |
| willcooke | I hate people who do that | 08:39 |
| willcooke | ;) | 08:39 |
| seb128 | I wonder if that's just because it changed or if it really looks weird | 08:39 |
| seb128 | willcooke, irony? | 08:40 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:40 |
| seb128 | I really think it looks less good | 08:40 |
| seb128 | I wonder if we should tweak it back | 08:40 |
| willcooke | +1 | 08:40 |
| seb128 | larsu, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/newgcc.png btw | 08:43 |
| seb128 | u-c-c with the new version | 08:43 |
| * seb128 opens some bugs for tracking | 08:44 | |
| larsu | seb128: yep, theming is first on my list. Thanks | 08:44 |
| seb128 | larsu, do you want bug reports for those? | 08:44 |
| larsu | seb128: for now it's fine if you report them here (too many for individual bugs) | 08:45 |
| * larsu has a list as well... | 08:45 | |
| seb128 | larsu, do you want a bug for the combo issue? | 08:45 |
| larsu | seb128: yes, please | 08:45 |
| seb128 | larsu, I'm tooking notes on http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v | 08:59 |
| seb128 | easier than bug reports/keeping track from IRC | 08:59 |
| larsu | cool thanks! | 08:59 |
| seb128 | yw! | 08:59 |
| seb128 | feel free to annotate/add things | 09:00 |
| seb128 | larsu, checkboxes not having a border, bug or design choice? | 09:01 |
| larsu | bug | 09:02 |
| seb128 | it's ok for checked one, but you don't even know there is something you can tick for unchecked ones | 09:02 |
| seb128 | k | 09:02 |
| seb128 | added it to the list | 09:02 |
| larsu | oh, we get minimize and maximize buttons on header bars now | 09:03 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:04 |
| seb128 | improvement ;-) | 09:04 |
| larsu | everything still crashes for me. I'll investigate further once the i-messages stuff is done | 09:04 |
| seb128 | larsu, i-m, what process needs to be restarted? | 09:08 |
| larsu | seb128: just i-m | 09:08 |
| seb128 | larsu, ok, no segfault anymore | 09:08 |
| larsu | yay | 09:09 |
| Laney | waah | 09:09 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:09 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 09:09 |
| seb128 | how are things? | 09:09 |
| Laney | alarm failed to sound! | 09:09 |
| larsu | Laney: 'good morning' would have worked as well | 09:09 |
| larsu | why do you have an alarm? Didn't we tell you how this job works? ;) | 09:10 |
| Laney | by maintaining a SUPER STRICT ROUTINE | 09:11 |
| seb128 | ja | 09:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, what do you use for your alarm? | 09:12 |
| seb128 | (don't tell utouch :p) | 09:12 |
| Laney | nah, a squeezebox | 09:13 |
| Laney | it's been a bit shoddy lately | 09:13 |
| larsu | Laney: what are you, German? | 09:14 |
| larsu | Laney: in any case: good morning :) | 09:14 |
| larsu | hope you had a pleasent sleep-in | 09:14 |
| larsu | *pleasant | 09:15 |
| * seb128 adds lines to the pad | 09:16 | |
| seb128 | sorry larsu | 09:16 |
| didrocks | where is the pad url! | 09:16 |
| didrocks | quick Laney, bring it back :) | 09:16 |
| larsu | keep it from didrocks! | 09:16 |
| * didrocks creates a spreadsheet then | 09:16 | |
| larsu | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 09:16 |
| didrocks | :) | 09:16 |
| larsu | didrocks: http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v | 09:16 |
| * larsu is allergic to spreadsheets | 09:17 | |
| didrocks | oh, but you do really have a pad, it wasn't a joke! :) | 09:17 |
| larsu | ya, too many things to track in launchpad (it's only in the ppa for now, too) | 09:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, easier than tracking it by irc pings | 09:17 |
| seb128 | we could use a blueprint, but a bit formal | 09:17 |
| didrocks | the pad is not scrummy enough! :) | 09:18 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:18 |
| seb128 | larsu, did you notice the indicator-sound icons being bigger? | 09:18 |
| didrocks | (just as a note: I like the pad as well) | 09:18 |
| willcooke | did someone say spreadsheet? | 09:18 |
| Laney | I was just passing issues on via irc :p | 09:18 |
| didrocks | quick quick, find something to please the manager | 09:18 |
| seb128 | shrug, didrocks, see what you did! | 09:18 |
| didrocks | slides! | 09:18 |
| didrocks | meeting | 09:18 |
| didrocks | hangouts | 09:18 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:18 |
| * willcooke goes back to his slides | 09:18 | |
| larsu | seb128: nope | 09:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: with that, we are back to safety ^ :) | 09:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well done :-) | 09:19 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 09:19 |
| seb128 | larsu, the indicator-datetime one is obvious | 09:20 |
| seb128 | need to restart u-p-s after installing gtk though | 09:20 |
| larsu | haha i have it in datetime | 09:22 |
| larsu | not in sound, though | 09:22 |
| seb128 | larsu, I've it with totem in sound | 09:22 |
| seb128 | not with rb | 09:22 |
| larsu | I don't have it with totem either | 09:23 |
| larsu | weird | 09:25 |
| larsu | ah, now I do (it's only a bit bigger though) | 09:26 |
| * larsu restarted u-p-s _and_ i-s | 09:26 | |
| seb128 | yeah, only a bit | 09:27 |
| larsu | datetime is awesome though | 09:27 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, not sure if you have details, I know that's a topic that we discussed a bit before, but if you details can you comment on bug #1389336 | 09:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1389336 in webkitgtk (Ubuntu) "Use geoclue-2.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1389336 | 09:38 |
| Laney | You said the issue | 09:38 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geoclue-2.0/+bug/1388294/comments/4 | 09:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1388294 in geoclue-2.0 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] geoclue-2.0" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 09:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, I was pointing it in case I was saying something inaccurate | 09:40 |
| seb128 | thanks for checking | 09:40 |
| Laney | no worries | 09:41 |
| Laney | I suppose we could think about taking this work on | 09:41 |
| seb128 | I guess we could, not sure what would be the right way to approach the issue though | 09:42 |
| Laney | that would be step 1 | 09:43 |
| Laney | From the sounds of it it might be in-tree | 09:43 |
| seb128 | well, that comment suggest we could change our server maybe | 09:43 |
| seb128 | or patch the code | 09:43 |
| Laney | I think there are other clients of the server so you'd want to keep both protocols working | 09:45 |
| Laney | but yeah, would need poking | 09:46 |
| seb128 | hum, dsl is down (doing IRC through my phone, but I've a limited data plan so I might just drop offline) | 10:11 |
| * pitti tosses seb128 an interweb cable | 10:37 | |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 10:37 |
| pitti | "Jordi, boost the pittinet signal strength to extend to Netherlands! Divert power from the coffee machine!" | 10:37 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 10:38 | |
| seb128 | shrug, we can't have internet and coffee at the same time? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | we are screwed :p | 10:38 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti back | 10:38 | |
| pitti | seb128: that's what Picard and LaForge always did, no? divert power from live support to the warp drive or shields | 10:38 |
| pitti | (as if that would make any measurable difference :) ) | 10:38 |
| pitti | and if the coffee machine doesn't count as "life support" for hackers, then what does | 10:39 |
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| mhall119 | didrocks: hey, so the Android thing I'm working on needed the NDK, would be nice if udtc could install that for me too | 14:14 |
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| mhall119 | and do whatever it needs to do so that android studio and/or eclipse know about it | 14:15 |
| willcooke | didrocks, fyi from mhall119 ^^^^ | 14:40 |
| mdeslaur | md_test: test test | 14:42 |
| mhall119 | willcooke: well I did tag him in it, I assume he'll get an annoying popup or ping or something :) | 14:44 |
| willcooke | oh - you did, sorry | 14:44 |
| didrocks | mhall119: the NDK shouldn't be needed with the default options, was it? | 14:48 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: I'm trying to compile a project that uses it | 14:48 |
| didrocks | mhall119: yeah, so you need to install it | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | studio complained that it didn't have it | 14:49 |
| didrocks | we can't install all services | 14:49 |
| didrocks | or the default install would be ~10G | 14:49 |
| didrocks | because NDK is one thing, but there are support library, google services, google play services | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | right, but being able to `udtc android ndk` would have been much nicer than going to developer.android.com, downloading their .bin, chmod-ing it and executing it | 14:49 |
| didrocks | mhall119: ah, you mean for something not available in their sdk-manager? | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | the others I can install via the SDK Manager right? | 14:50 |
| didrocks | yeah, that's doable, mind filing a bug? | 14:50 |
| didrocks | yep :) | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | sure, what's the LP project name? | 14:50 |
| didrocks | mhall119: it's on github: https://github.com/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/issues | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | oh, right | 14:51 |
| didrocks | mhall119: what kind of project are you on to have to download the NDK? This is really for a nice-thing :) | 14:51 |
| didrocks | niche* | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | https://github.com/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/issues/47 | 14:52 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: it's for a game engine, AndEngine | 14:52 |
| didrocks | interesting, so yeah, you need it to access the gl stack :) | 14:53 |
| mhall119 | yeah | 14:53 |
| dgadomski | bregma: hi, is this somehow possible to turn off the "untrusted application launcher" check in unity on precise? For every shortcut I create by dragging from dash to the desktop I end up with a untrusted launcher and I need to modify the perms in /usr/share/applications/*.desktop (which I would like to avoid) | 15:44 |
| bregma | dgadomski, in 12.04? I don't think so | 15:50 |
| dgadomski | bregma: I was afraid of that, thank you | 15:52 |
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| Laney | bye! | 18:17 |
| seb128 | back | 18:32 |
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| RAOF | desrt: Or maybe in here, because #-mir is being a bit busy :) | 22:31 |
| desrt | hm? | 22:31 |
| RAOF | desrt: Do you mean “what is the definitive list of available cursor names”? | 22:31 |
| desrt | i already answered my own question by reading the source :) | 22:32 |
| RAOF | Hah. | 22:32 |
| desrt | which is that it is open-ended | 22:32 |
| desrt | if i give you a cursor name that you don't recognise then you'll attempt to open the x11 cursor with this name out of the cursor theme | 22:32 |
| desrt | which is more or less what i want :) | 22:32 |
| desrt | there is only one annoying thing: if the name of the icon in the cursor theme is the same as a name that mir uses for its purposes then i'll get the mir icon instead | 22:33 |
| RAOF | Yeah. We'll give you something more flexible later. | 22:33 |
| desrt | i'm sure there are some conflicts there. i'm not sure if they matter. | 22:33 |
| attente_ | robert_ancell: how are you testing things such as the test program from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1388875 under unity 8? | 22:46 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1388875 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Vivid) "GTK+ applications unable to be clicked on in Unity 8" [High,Fix committed] | 22:46 |
| robert_ancell | sudo cp to /usr/bin and make a file in /usr/share/applications/foo.desktop with X-Ubuntu-Touch=true | 22:47 |
| robert_ancell | Then launch from Unity 8 | 22:47 |
| robert_ancell | For the environment variables I made /usr/bin/mir-test a shell script that called /usr/bin/mir-test.real | 22:47 |
| robert_ancell | Then the logs are in ~/.cache/upstart/application-legacy-mir-test-*.log | 22:48 |
| robert_ancell | i.e. stdout/err | 22:48 |
| attente_ | robert_ancell: ah, ok, thanks! | 22:49 |
| robert_ancell | For faster testing though I run sudo mir_demo_server_shell from a VT. Set the ownership of /var/run/user/*/mir_socket to all writable and launch the apps with DISPLAY= | 22:49 |
| robert_ancell | I don't know if there's a way to launch things directly into Unity 8 (I suspect the security stuff disallows it) | 22:50 |
| robert_ancell | attente_, how goes the GTK3 port? | 22:50 |
| attente_ | robert_ancell: not much progress, added some basic cursor support, but xchat-gnome doesn't even launch under unity 8 | 22:52 |
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