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infinitywgrant: Sounds reasonable, assuming "arbitrary" is a predictable precedence selection.00:07
infinityAs much as I want random arch-indep builds, I'm not sure today is the day. ;)00:07
wgrantinfinity: Well, I don't really have much to go on there.00:08
wgrantThe Architecture field could be specified as negative wildcards, for example.00:09
wgrantUnless I use like DAS.id or something arbitrary but stable.00:09
infinitywgrant: Well, you know which builds you're going to create.00:10
wgrantinfinity: Right, but what defines the order of the DASes?00:10
infinitywgrant: So, a precedence list of "if I'm not creating it, try the next instead" would work, with an order of amd64 > i386 > misc00:10
infinityNot sure the misc matters. :P00:11
infinityJust that i386 should be preferred over randomly picking the armhf build.00:11
infinityIf for no other reason than CPU time.00:11
wgrantIt's probably sufficiently rare that it doesn't really matter. I don't reallllly want to hardcode i386.00:11
wgrantThough I guess this is technically temporary, since Debian might eventually define the affinity field.00:12
infinitywgrant: This should be temporary.  But you could also just pull the arches in order from the DB, and try/pass until you hit a match.00:12
infinitywgrant: Since, I think, x86 comes first by PK ordering.00:12
infinityThough powerpc is right up there somewhere.00:12
wgrantHeh, no00:13
wgrantOh, i386 is the first Processor.00:13
wgrantThat might work00:13
wgrantBut arm64 is the first DAS atm.00:13
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infinitywgrant: Yeah, DAS creation is probably close to random, I meant the Processor table, which is static.00:19
infinityrsalveti: So, it sounds like, from the above, William will have a solution for you "i386 all" issue soon, and you can just ignore it. :P00:19
infinityrsalveti: A fresh upload to vivid after it's fixed will be needed to make it DTRT, but that's it.00:20
wgrantYep00:21
rsalvetiawesome :-)00:21
* infinity needs to run out shopping, back soon.00:22
skellatIs there no backports suite for utopic?  Nothing is showing up for it on packages.ubuntu.com though rmadison says there is stuff there.00:56
skellatFor example, rmadison pumpa and http://packages.ubuntu.com/pumpa show differing output01:02
infinityskellat: packages.u.c isn't authoritative, what rmadison is telling you is correct.02:19
wgrantrmadison also isn't authoritative :)03:19
wgrantThough usually correct.03:19
skellatWhat's the most authoritative answer then?03:21
wgrantskellat: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pumpa03:22
skellatwgrant: Thank you03:23
infinitywgrant: I's argue that from a "what users see" perspective, rmadison is more authoritative than LP. :P04:45
infinitywgrant: Since LP is telling you what SHOULD be on disk, rmadison is telling you what IS.04:45
infinity(And we really hope the two match)04:45
wgrantPerhaps.04:46
wgrantAlso rmadison is seriously slow.04:46
wgrantWhen LP is faster than something else, the something else has a serious problem :P04:46
infinityYeah, I keep wondering if I have the round tuits to fix that.04:46
infinityThere's no reason rmadison needs to be slow.04:46
infinityIt just is.04:46
wgrantIndeed.04:46
* skellat is just learning how to use the tools...the hard way...04:47
infinityThe hard way is often the right way.04:48
wgrantRight, new arch-indep logic works, yay.05:15
wgrantImplementing an arch-indep affinity field should now be roughly two lines of code, too.05:16
stgraberinfinity: dump a couple of ssds into snakefruit => problem solved?05:23
stgraberor spend a while trying to get index lookups to not be nearly as slow, but ssds for the indices seems easier :)05:24
infinitystgraber: apt-cache implies that index lookups don't have to be slow.  madison-lite could just use a bit more smart.05:26
wgrantinfinity: https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/bug-1350208/+merge/240808 if you care/understand05:28
infinity+ # XXX wgrant 2014-11-06: The fact that production's05:32
infinity156+ # Processor 1 is i386, a good arch-indep candidate, is a05:32
infinity157+ # total coincidence and this isn't a hack. I promise.05:32
infinityHeh.05:32
tjaaltonplease drop xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.910-0ubuntu1.3 from the upload queue, I'll add one critical patch to it09:23
tjaaltonunrelated to the ones on it now, but critical for broadwell09:24
wgrantCurrently deploying the complete rewrite of the Soyuz build creation logic. If anything seems weird, it probably is, so let me know.10:05
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rbasakbdmurray: if you're wearing your SRU team hat today, please can I poke you about reviewing juju-core in the Trusty queue? I'd like to get it pushed through soon if we can, so that upstream can QA on Ubuntu's proposed binary before they release upstream.15:43
bdmurrayrbasak: I'll be putting that hat on in a bit after my morning meetings.15:46
rbasakOK, thanks!15:46
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balloonsstgraber, someone; can you make sure Upgrade Ubuntu Gnome amd64 and Upgrade Ubuntu Gnome i386 get added to the script for weekly upgrade builds?18:34
stgraberlet me check what that script does exactly, I somehow doubt it contains an hardcoded list18:35
balloonshehe.. yea, probably just grabs the family18:35
balloonsin which case it's all set18:35
stgraberso it iterates through the ones that are already on the daily milestone and bump them all18:36
stgraberso if you do the first entry by hand, it'll pick it up from there18:36
balloonsyep, done.. ty stgraber18:36
bdmurrayHow do you add an extra space there? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/189391989/xserver-xorg-video-intel_2%3A2.99.910-0ubuntu1.2_2%3A2.99.910-0ubuntu1.3.diff.gz19:05
tjaaltonbdmurray: is the newer upload of -intel for trusty still on the queue?19:22
tjaaltonsame version number..19:24
bdmurraytjaalton: yes, its still there19:24
tjaaltonnot for too long I hope ;)19:24
bdmurraycjwatson: Could you do the -proposed cleanup?19:29
infinitybdmurray: I've got that (proposed cleanup).20:27
ogra_i disabled system-image auto-importing for a bit to coordinate a device tarball landing with a silo20:37
bdmurrayinfinity: okay, thanks20:57
bdmurraytjaalton: the -intel upload has a reference to a patch not included in it21:24
bdmurray+  * Prevent crash when using SNA with fglrx.21:24
bdmurray+    - disable-outputs-when-slaved.patch21:24
tjaaltonbdmurray: seems to me that it's there..21:27
bdmurrayI don't see it in the series file21:28
tjaalton+disable-outputs-when-slaved.patch21:29
ogra_system-image auto-importer back on21:29
tjaaltonbdmurray: there were quite a few patches added after that21:30
bdmurraytjaalton: I'm looking at this diff - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/189391989/xserver-xorg-video-intel_2%3A2.99.910-0ubuntu1.2_2%3A2.99.910-0ubuntu1.3.diff.gz21:31
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tjaaltonwell boo then, it was added in 1.221:32
tjaaltonbad mlankhorst :)21:33
tjaaltonor actually it's just the changelog entry that's confusing and duplicat21:34
tjaaltone21:34
tjaaltonbut I can fix that21:36
tjaaltonand upload again21:36
bdmurraytjaalton: that'd be great, then I'll get it approved today21:36
tjaaltondone21:39
brainwashplease move thunar from utopic-proposed to -updates21:41
brainwashbug 138297721:41
ubot2bug 1382977 in thunar (Ubuntu Utopic) "[SRU] Thunar open default not respecting mimetype" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138297721:41
bdmurraybrainwash: we wait for packages to live in -proposed for 7 days21:55
brainwashbdmurray: even if several people confirmed that the package has fixed the issue? ok then I guess21:56
bdmurraybrainwash: 7 days is the policy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/#Procedure21:58
bdmurraybrainwash: we can waive that sometimes is the bug critical?21:59
brainwashbdmurray: no, it cannot be labeled as critical or even high. we are just trying to get the fix out asap, because it's the no.1 issue in xubuntu 14.1022:01
brainwashbut the 7 days aging time makes sense, so we'll wait some more days22:02
bdmurraybrainwash: feel free to ping an SRU team member on the 11th then (I'll be out that day)22:03
brainwashI will, thanks :)22:03
infinityOr just assume that we'll get to it.22:03
infinityIf the bugs are all verified.22:03
wgrantinfinity: Nothing seemed weird build-wise overnight?22:53
infinitywgrant: Should it have?  I was indisposed.22:55
wgrantinfinity: Well, a lot of very crufty evolved code was rewritten, so it's not inconceivable that something might be broken.22:57
wgrantBut everything looks fine, which is nice.22:57
wgrantWhich means it should be safe to run add-missing-builds, but I might test it on dogfood first.22:58
wgrantAlso rsalveti's android should build in vivid now.22:58
rsalvetigreat22:58
infinityrsalveti: That'll need a no-change upload to prompt it to create the build records in a sensible fashion.22:59

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