=== ribru is now known as robru === mozzarella is now known as Guest52396 [04:54] chrisccoulson: your upstream bug guess in http://pad.lv/1389721 is as good as mine. the SDK team (zsombi, t1mp, kalikiana) could have an idea if they've seen a similar bug in developing UITK. [04:54] Launchpad bug 1389721 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "API versioning broken in some cases" [Undecided,New] [04:55] chrisccoulson: if it is the same bug and it's still open, then it doesn't help to know there is vivid Qt 5.3.2 bugfix release PPA available, but it's at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting [06:48] mzanetti: FYI if you have time, you could experiment and comment on the bug #1357321.. the ~test7 in the PPA now has patches that should make it ~work (according to lorn), but I have some hard time getting reliable results and maybe you'd get more consistent results from testing [06:48] bug 1357321 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[TOPBLOCKER] QNetworkAccessManager doesn't support roaming on Ubuntu" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357321 [06:48] it did now load images over pure 3G on music scope... [07:45] Hello! [07:50] help [08:41] chrisccoulson, Mirv: I commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/1389721 [08:41] Ubuntu bug 1389721 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "API versioning broken in some cases" [Undecided,New] [08:50] and indeed cups isn't running for me [08:50] once I start lpstat, it gets activated [08:50] argh sorry, ECHANNEL [09:01] kalikiana: thanks, maybe that'll help them! [09:50] Good morning all; happy Nachos Day! :-D [10:04] popey, sorry I missed yesterdays msg [10:04] popey, someone wants to look at udm? [10:16] ogra_, got time for me? [10:17] mandel, gimme a bit to move to my laptop [10:17] ogra_, sure, I'll grab a coffee while you do, no hurry :) [10:24] mandel, ok, got a new paste ? [10:27] ogra_, yes => https://pastebin.canonical.com/120055/ [10:27] ogra_, files updated => (new) dbus_properties.h, services.c (new function and new if), make file for adbd and control to add new deps [10:28] ogra_, that should be all [10:28] yeah [10:32] brendand: ping [10:36] ogra_, I must be doing something wrong 'cause I don't see my patch applied (is easy to check I just grep for the new include flags when building) [10:36] mandel: wasn't me... [10:37] mandel: not yesterday anyway ☻ [10:37] popey, he, probably is bip being an ass again, sorry to bother [10:37] np ☻ [10:38] mandel, does that debdiff look fine to you ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8849837/ [10:40] ogra_, uh, what are all those copyright updates? === yorick_ is now known as yorick [10:40] dunno, they are in every debdiff against that patch [10:40] ignore them [10:41] ogra_, looks good to me [10:42] ogra_, would be nice to get a .deb to test it :) [10:42] ok, i'll try to build and test that then [10:42] (and give you a deb once i got one ... that will take a bit) [10:43] ogra_, awesome, no problem [10:43] my build device is just flashing for a botochart test [10:43] ogra_, I'll be sorting out udm in the mean time [10:43] once thats done i'll roll a package [10:43] ogra_, ok, great [10:43] *bootchart [10:55] ogra_, we have a task with the following title => "Attach unity greeter signal to the startup code for the adb shell" [10:55] on trello you mean ? [10:55] ogra_, do you know exactly what is meant with that? atm we only have adbd checking if it is locked, but we are not listening to a signal [10:55] ogra_, yes, trello [10:56] thats just badly phrased [10:56] iirc that was even me ... feel free to adjust it :) [10:57] ogra_, what do we want to do then? Is that the same as we already have in the patch? [10:57] i dont see that title anywhere [10:58] ogra_, here https://trello.com/b/o29TpZsd/sprint-1 top one [10:58] looks like the card was properly renamed with the bug title [10:58] kalikiana, thanks. I've added a comment as well now. I'm surprised you don't use the metaobject revision number in the UITK - how do you handle new properties added to existing classes between releases? [10:58] ogra_, I'll add you to it so that you get the notification [10:58] bah [10:58] i'm on the wrong borad [10:58] ogra_, lol [10:59] ogra_, too many boards, one per sprint sounds like a bad bad idea [11:00] chrisccoulson: we use REVISION. what we don't use is the extra template argument [11:01] mandel, added two comments ... that card should go away [11:01] chrisccoulson: and we have errors that tell you that what you tried to use isn't available in the version [11:01] ogra_, good, we just finished a task then :) [11:01] (i'll leave it to the scrum master to do that) [11:01] chrisccoulson: unless, of cours,e you use the correct one [11:01] well, only once we uploaded [11:01] ogra_, what about the one with "Track unity greeter state separately for each session" [11:01] ogra_, is there something to do, can I help? [11:02] you can test the deb once i have it [11:03] will do [11:03] chrisccoulson: for instance, continue to do qmlRegisterType(uri, 1, 3, "WebContext") [11:03] * ogra_ grumbles about bootchart bailing out [11:04] chrisccoulson: as a matter of fact I don't see what the expected use of the extra argument is… you're already passing the version as function arguments [11:08] kalikiana, hmmm, I don't see how it can work without the extra template argument [11:09] kalikiana, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/plugin/plugin.cpp#L161 [11:34] mandel, bah [11:34] services.c:23:18: fatal error: glib.h: No such file or directory [11:34] #include [11:34] ^ [11:34] compilation terminated. [11:34] ogra_, ?? [11:35] thats what i get when building the package [11:35] ogra_, that is strange, the include should be added by the pkgconfig command in the make file [11:35] ogra_, I wonder if the order is wrong in the include.. do you have a branch with the changes? or is it just the patch? [11:36] just the patch [11:36] hmm, not sure the cflags are right to use there [11:37] * ogra_ drops the option from the pkg-config line [11:37] lets see [11:37] ogra_, yes, that is my feeling, but I did want the pkg-config so that we get the correct link and includes [11:37] ogra_, the error is due to a wrong include.. [11:39] ogra_, we can use pkg-config --cflags-only-I --libs glib-2.0 dbus-glib-1 and add it in the includes like the others do for example [11:39] that should generate something like '-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 [11:42] * ogra_ scratches head [11:42] * tbr hands ogra_ a head-scratcher™ [11:43] haha [11:46] ogra_, got the error again? is a matter of adding the correct include paths [11:46] yes, we need to split the pkg-config call in two bits [11:46] cflags needs to go into CPPFLAGS [11:47] that got me forward ... but just to the next error :P [11:47] i'm confused [11:47] i can phablet-shell to the phone but not ssh [11:47] has something changed recently? [11:47] i remember i could plain ssh before [11:47] tsdgeos, did you explicitly enable ssh using android-gadget-service ? [11:48] ogra_: nope, how do i do that? [11:48] phablet-shell will only enable it for the adb connection temporary [11:48] mandel, hah ... youre full of typos :P [11:48] services.c: In function ‘is_phone_locked’: [11:48] services.c:258:5: error: ‘removeobj’ undeclared (first use in this function) [11:48] removeobj = dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name(bus, [11:49] ogra_: ofund it [11:49] ogra_, agh, sorry I had to redo the patch and screw it up :-/ [11:49] tsdgeos, adb shell android-gadget-service enable ssh [11:49] ogra_, should be remote, not remove [11:49] ogra_: right that worked (i.e. gave me ssh enabled) [11:49] ogra_: but can't still ssh in [11:50] do i need to reboot? [11:50] * tsdgeos tries [11:50] tsdgeos, make sure to a) not have pahblet-shell in use when doing that command ... [11:50] tsdgeos, and b) you need the same key that was used for phablet-shell [11:50] ah [11:50] you guys are making it hard :D [11:51] well, i hope to have a UI option for ssh some day ;) [11:53] worked now [11:53] tx [11:56] ogra_, was that the only issue? [11:56] up to now, yes [11:56] i think we miss #include [11:59] pitti, looking at the debian files for this package, am I correct to think it's not using language packs? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scope-scopes/trunk/files/head:/debian/ [11:59] i.e. I don't see dh_translations specified [12:00] X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes [12:00] dpm: it does use pkgstriptranslations and thus langpacks [12:00] dpm: dh_translations is for automatically updating POT files or stripping translations from .desktop files and the like [12:00] and it's not using that indeed [12:01] pitti, ah, yes, thanks for the clarification - and in fact I can see the template here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/+source/unity-scope-scopes [12:01] ogra_, we don't need that :) [12:01] ogra_, should be in the dbus_properties.h header [12:01] hmm, where is remoteobj declared then ? [12:03] ogra_, I don't know what you fixed in the make, but the remoteobj fix is here => http://paste.ubuntu.com/8850806/ [12:04] ogra_, lines 42 and 54 in that diff [12:05] yeah [12:05] added that === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [12:06] ogra_, sorry for that, I did screw up the diff big time.. mierda [12:06] build seems to pass now [12:06] no worries :) [12:17] chrisccoulson: hmm interesting. I didn't think we used that anywhere. price question, why only in UCStyledItemBase but not the others [12:18] and more importantly, why don't we have any trouble with it in the uitk [12:19] chrisccoulson: I still don't see what use the argument is - it's redundant. if the version is wrong it wouldn't have any relevance… [12:19] I must be missing something obvious here… [12:21] mandel, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/android-tools-adbd_4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu37_armhf.deb test away ! [12:21] \o/ [12:21] ogra_, on it [12:26] mandel, not working here [12:26] ogra_, I can't get it to install, it gets stuck :-/ [12:27] * ogra_ reboots [12:27] you need to install via ssh, via recovery or from the terminal app [12:27] make your pick :) [12:27] adb gets restarted during install so you lose connection [12:28] hmm, after a reboot it lets me in all the time [12:28] regardless of the screen state [12:29] mandel, erm ... looking at the code ... you try to connect to the session bus [12:29] that cant work [12:29] adbd is a systme process [12:29] *system [12:30] ogra_, if it does not connect to the session bus it should no allow you to get in nevertheless [12:30] right [12:30] so that doesnt work either [12:30] ogra_, since it will get an error, so that is no the issue [12:30] ogra_, I have not been able to install the deb, it gets stuck at Preparing to unpack android-tools-adbd_4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu37_armhf.deb ... [12:30] ogra_, it does not go further than that [12:30] yes, see above [12:31] ogra_, ins the unity service a system or a session service, that is what we want to connect to [12:31] you cant install adbd via adb connection [12:31] i have no idea [12:31] but adbd cant see any session-bus [12:31] ogra_, I did an ssh :) [12:31] ogra_, I'll reboot to see what is going on [12:32] ogra_, I added the logs, we should be able to see what is doing (those D calls) [12:32] yes [12:32] i dont see any here [12:32] i wonder why [12:33] i definitely have ubuntu37 installed [12:33] but it doesnt behave any different [12:40] mandel, heh, probably because the check lives in the completely wrong function :P [12:41] create_service_thread() vs create_subproc_thread() [12:43] my fault === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:45] ogra_, ah! well, not a big deal :) [12:45] ogra_, fun lol [12:46] yeah, the lovely broken worlld of adbd === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:46] ogra_, ok, me do update the diff for you, I did find an other issue :) [12:47] mandel: ogra_ how are you goind to deal with the system/session issue? [12:47] sergiusens, no idea [12:47] * ogra_ would like ot see it blocking at all first [12:47] ogra_, one question, was what the change in the compilation? I'm curious, just the c-flags? [12:47] mandel, i split it in twoo pkg-config commands ... thats all [12:48] one for the cflags, one for the libs [12:48] mandel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8851351/ [12:49] ack, thx! [12:49] mandel, package updated [12:49] re-pull [12:50] wait, I wanted to point a bug to you I found [12:50] ogra_: mandel instead of unity8 sending a signal, it might need to be a message then [12:50] and adb would need to track state :-/ [12:50] sergiusens, atm we are just querying a property each time.. [12:51] sergiusens, uh, that looks like a big patch [12:51] mandel: from the system bus to the session? [12:51] how does that even work [12:51] ? [12:51] sergiusens, which should not work.. fu* [12:51] system service to an unkown session bus address [12:52] Session terminated, terminating shell... ...terminated. [12:52] stdin: is not a tty [12:52] phone is locked [12:52] ha ! [12:52] at least that bit works [12:52] each adb shell call prints it [12:53] (indeed even when unlocked) [12:54] sergiusens, i think we should just wait for mterry ... if there is anything we can look for on the system bus he will know [12:54] Hi john!! [12:54] ogra_: like lightdm and split greeter :) [12:55] sergiusens, ogra_ sorry, crashed unity :-/ [12:55] sergiusens, hah, yeah :) [12:55] well, dbus-monitor doesnt show anything on the system bus if the phone is unloocked [12:56] ogra_, nah, I did a grep, only thing we have is com.canonical.Unity.Screen :P [12:56] ogra_, which is clearly not what we want [12:56] ogra_: on a side note, how is this possible '9917145088 bytes (9,9 GB) copied, 663,485 s, 14,9 MB/s' for my 8GB thumb drive? [12:57] ogra_, where does initrd exist on the mako? [12:57] cking_, in the boot.img [12:57] and where is that? [12:58] cking_, have a look at /usr/bin/abootimg-unpack-initrd and /usr/bin/abootimg-pack-initrd [12:58] (you can also just use them if you want to pack/unpack to make changes) [13:04] hmm, getting that info across the busses will be hard :( [13:05] we wont have write access to the system bus from the session ... since we run as phablet [13:06] ogra_, this is going to be a lot harder than we though, either mterry has a way to expose that in the system one.. [13:07] ogra_, I wonder, are we going to have a greeter per session? [13:07] or we need a different way [13:07] we currently do [13:07] and i guess in the future we'll have at least one per user [13:07] the current greeter is still inside unity8 ... [13:09] ogra_, I find interesting that we have one per user yet user metricts is in the system bugs.. [13:13] ogra_, lets talk about this after the standup, we need a way to workaround this === boiko_ is now known as boiko === mandel is now known as mandel|lunch === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [13:47] mhall119: hi! I'm working on an Online Accounts guide for developer.ubuntu.com; I'm writing that in libreoffice. Is that OK, or should I better use some other format? [14:04] mardy: it would be better in HTML so we can just copy/paste, but we can work with an ODT file [14:05] if you're not doing fancy formatting or layouts in LO, that should be fine [14:06] mhall119: OK; I also include some links to a few elements in the API reference; I'm using absolute links, is that fine? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:07] mardy: absolute links are fine, but replace the version (sdk-14.10) with "current" or "development" so we don't have to keep changing them [14:07] which reminds me, it's time to make 14.10 "current" [14:08] mhall119: ah, cool! [14:13] hi [14:13] anyone with the ubuntu touch image developers === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:14] I amtrying to install ubuntu touch vivid verlet on my phone...but noimage for the device MSM8974 [14:15] tiheum, did you get a chance to test silo 21? [14:15] no [14:15] tiheum, is the messaging menu icon meant to be gray when there isn't a pending message and white when there is? [14:16] I just switched back to ubuntu.. [14:16] will there be any chances for more release of the ubuntu image for devices like Xiaomi Mi3?? [14:16] ats, just need someone to do a port [14:17] kenvandine, hi, if you're doing a landing, could you sneak in [1]? Low impact visual tweak. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-system-settings/dropDialogSizeHack/+merge/239297 [14:17] ats: If it isn't listed in the support list, then you would need to port it, see the header for links [14:17] Need ubuntu touch images to test and develop for 'cancro' and 'MSM8974' [14:17] ok..:-) [14:18] jgdx, i can't land that until the toolkit fix it needs lands in vivid [14:18] it landed in rtm 3 weeks ago, but not vivid yet :( [14:18] kenvandine, oh [14:18] okay [14:18] any way to port to suit my needs?? [14:18] i'm still waiting for the sdk guys [14:19] ats, there is a porting guide on the wiki [14:19] kalikiana, any word on when the toolkit fix will land in vivid? [14:20] bzoltan, ^^ [14:20] thanks mate..will check on it [14:20] saidinesh5: ping. [14:20] saidinesh5: sorry, wrong person [14:20] nope [14:20] Hey [14:20] Saviq: ping [14:20] oh [14:20] well [14:20] :) [14:20] bye :P [14:21] was nice to meet you [14:21] kenvandine: what fix? [14:21] mhm you too :) [14:21] Wellark, we activate flight mode, it only really gets activated 5 or so seconds later [14:21] kalikiana, that your dropDialogSizeHack branch needed [14:21] Wellark, so with dednick's branch that validates the setting after 1s or so, the switch goes on, off, on [14:22] Wellark, we'd need the network indicator to acknowledge the change straight away, potentially switching back if something went wrong [14:22] kalikiana, dialog resize fix [14:23] Saviq: right... [14:23] kenvandine: ah, that is in staging and not rtm so it depends on when we actually land stuff in viivd [14:23] kalikiana, i think it landed in rtm [14:23] just not vivid or utopic [14:23] bzoltan: when will we land in vivd? [14:24] vivid has and antique version of the toolkit now [14:24] :) [14:24] saldy true [14:24] *sadly [14:24] Saviq: can't you change the validation to happen every 6 seconds? :) [14:24] actually.. [14:24] a month old... [14:24] Wellark, I can find a stick long enough to prod you in the eye [14:24] Saviq: actually I think I can make it happen [14:25] Saviq: could you file a bug, as that is prerequisite to land anything to rtm [14:25] Saviq: please also describe which branch of unity8 has to be installed to make the problem visible [14:26] Wellark, rtm silo 4 [14:26] or better yet, if there is a silo that can be installed [14:26] Saviq: I need to go to a meeting right now. would be great if you or dednick or someone could file the bug [14:26] but I think I can file it myself as well after the meetings if you guys are busy [14:27] no way I am in a postition to do that porting..ha...ha..:-D [14:29] kalikiana, jgdx: oh there is a pending vivid landing... that needs a packaging change ACK [14:29] anyone any help in porting vivid verlet or any ubuntu touch to Xiaomi mi3 device [14:32] jgdx, i ack'd the packaging change and published it :) [14:32] woot! [14:32] zomg, ken, you're awesome [14:40] any ubuntu touch developers online?? [14:41] ats, there are many of us in this channel, but you need someone that has a device to do the port [14:41] yup... [14:42] we work on many aspects of ubuntu touch, necessarily porting to devices [14:42] any chances of me getting into the developer for Xiaomi Mi3 then..if there are no developers for it [14:43] since this phone is very less in stock..most probably it ain't available in most of N.America and Europe..just being available in Asian countries [14:44] but to do so have to have sound knowledge of doing it...I am an computer engineering student so I am very novice in this field..need guidance and few knwoledge base to start as a developer [14:58] kenvandine, 016 does not fix the issue. It's pretty easy to unsync the two switches.. [14:58] sigh [14:58] kgunn, ^^^ [14:59] jgdx, can you give kgunn specifics on what you saw? [14:59] kenvandine, kgunn's comment is pretty spot on I think.. the rapid toggling of flight mode probably causes havoc somewhere [15:00] jgdx: nope...that's actually a different issue [15:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1350332 [15:00] Error: ubuntu bug 1350332 not found [15:00] jdstrand: ^ so that is due to cellular backend.... [15:00] as long as backend is working proper....the ui will reflect the reality [15:01] kgunn, oh [15:01] kenvandine: yes to you second question [15:01] kenvandine: for the first one, how can I test the silo? [15:01] tiheum, you can use the citrain to install it on a device [15:01] citrain tool [15:02] kenvandine: ok, I will ask jounih (it's his phone and I am sure he knows what the citrain is) [15:02] tiheum, do you have that installed? [15:03] cool [15:03] tiheum, let me know if you have questions [15:04] kgunn: guessing you meant jg dx instead of me? [15:05] my bad [15:05] np at all [15:06] just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something :) [15:07] kenvandine: nobody here has ever heard of that tool so I supposed it's not installed on the phone I have and I don"t know how to do that [15:07] could you link a tutorial or something like that? [15:07] tiheum, phablet-tools-citrain [15:07] tiheum, not on the phone, on your desktop [15:07] and no, thats something to install on your PC [15:09] it would be really cool if we had a citrain app for the phone though :) [15:09] choose a silo and install :) [15:10] kenvandine, ogra_: installing... [15:10] tiheum, you have to make sure the device has developer mode enabled and is writable [15:10] kgunn, using 016 I get to a state where I cannot disable FM from the indicator. [15:11] tiheum, you can enable developer mode in system-settings [15:11] then [15:11] kgunn, it seems that the USS FM switch is preventing the indicator FM switch from disabling. [15:11] phablet-config writable-image --enable [15:13] kgunn, actually, if I wait ~10 seconds it is disabled. [15:13] so not that bad, just very confusing [15:16] jgdx, kgunn: that's the tricky part of binding the switches [15:16] if it doesn't take effect immediately, the user doesn't get the feedback [15:17] or the opposite [15:17] the comment I was talking about was https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-network/+bug/1336715/comments/21 [15:17] Ubuntu bug 1336715 in unity8 (Ubuntu RTM) "[TOPBLOCKER] switch-items in indicators sometimes get out of sync with system-settings" [Critical,In progress] [15:17] kenvandine: everything's installed but the command doesn't work [15:17] unrecognized argument [15:17] tiheum, paste your command [15:18] phablet-config writable-image --enabled [15:18] drop the d [15:18] same error [15:18] drop the argument :) [15:19] should work without [15:19] error device not found [15:19] (and since we dont support disabling the arg would be moot anyway) [15:19] (the phone is plug on the laptop) [15:19] oh [15:19] no args [15:19] *plugged [15:19] and you enabled developer mode ? [15:19] sorry :) [15:19] yes [15:19] phablet-config writable-image [15:19] adb devices shows it ? [15:20] nope [15:20] unplug and plugin again [15:20] or reboot the phone [15:20] ok, after pluging the phone again that seems to work [15:21] great [15:22] the phablet-config command rebooted the device and terminated without error [15:22] good [15:22] now use citrain to install the silo [15:22] if the device comes up again it should be writable [15:22] haha [15:22] *if* :) [15:22] well :) [15:22] such confidence [15:23] it's ready so it should be writable :) [15:24] ogra_, this is what I got when I plugged in my phone today http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8852146/ [15:25] ogra_, any ideas what to look for to diagnose further [15:25] looks like a broken cable or broken USB driver on your laptop [15:26] (or broken USB port on the phone ... but thats unlikely) [15:27]