[00:04] <ali1234> i just fixed an 8 year old bug that nobody notice until 6 months ago :(
[00:05] <ali1234> somehow it's also the top apport crasher for xubuntu
[00:07] <daftykins> :O
[00:07] <daftykins> nice work
[00:36]  * zmoylan-pi hands ali1234 a cookie for work done
[06:21] <mapps> morning
[07:11] <Myrtti_> ali1234: which one?
[07:37] <ali1234> Myrtti_: the one where xfwm crashes if your hostname is longer than 31 characters
[07:37] <Myrtti_> ah.
[08:13] <Guest15705> good morning aqll
[08:13] <popey> Morning
[08:13] <MooDoo> rats kicked off again :()
[09:25] <diddledan> brain? brain? what are we going to do today, brain?
[09:27] <TheBrain> The same thing we do every day, Pinky. Try to take over the World!
[09:30] <diddledan> roger that!
[09:30]  * diddledan prepares
[09:30] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:30] <diddledan> one towel. one beer. done
[09:31] <brobostigon> :)
[09:31] <diddledan> mornin brobostigon
[09:31] <brobostigon> morning diddledan
[09:50] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Nachos Day! :-D
[09:51] <MooDoo> morning
[10:01] <davmor2> JamesTait: What else is it today I'm not a fan of Nachos
[10:01] <foobarry> how do you screenshot in android 4.x ?
[10:01] <foobarry> cyanogen had it on the power button
[10:01] <foobarry> can't find it in stock
[10:01] <davmor2> foobarry: depends on the make of the phone
[10:01] <diddledan> volume-down+power?
[10:02] <MooDoo> +1
[10:02] <foobarry> volume down first?
[10:02] <MooDoo> both at the same time
[10:02] <diddledan> at the same time
[10:02] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's Men Make Dinner Day.
[10:02] <foobarry> nothing happens
[10:02] <foobarry> ah...hold for 1-2 secs
[10:03] <foobarry> thanks gutys
[10:03] <davmor2> JamesTait: yeah I'm doing that anyway wifey is poorly
[10:13] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[10:13] <davmor2> MooDoo: how are you me owld mucka
[10:15] <MooDoo> yeah i'm ok mate, just watched a video about sabdfl getting someone up on stage to use autopilot :D
[10:17] <MooDoo> davmor2: what about yourself good sir.....? I've also been trying to p2v my ubuntu server to vmware with not much success :D
[10:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: watch the live migration of doom while it is playing if you want funky :)
[10:21] <MooDoo> yeah i saw that too, :)
[10:23] <MooDoo> davmor2: just could do with my webserver virtualising for failover.
[10:23] <NET||abuse> :( hamster project is pretty much dead. sad face, I really need something to track myself with something like the desktop integration of hamster
[10:24] <NET||abuse> and the granular reporting it gave. i really liked it.
[10:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: easy ha proxy with a cloud backup :P
[10:29] <MooDoo> davmor2: doesn't help me with duplicating the server in the first place though
[10:31] <MooDoo> i could usee virt-v2v i think
[10:33] <ujjain> how do I install an pkg file with dependencies?
[10:33] <NET||abuse> pkg?
[10:33] <ujjain> .deb?
[10:33] <ujjain> apt-get install blabla.deb not working
[10:33] <NET||abuse> dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:33] <NET||abuse> and sudo that
[10:33] <ujjain> too many dependencies
[10:34] <NET||abuse> ahh, in that case
[10:34] <NET||abuse> apt-get install -f blah.deb    I think it might also get the dependancies
[10:34] <NET||abuse> i'm not sure though
[10:35] <MooDoo> i normally dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:35] <MooDoo> then sudo apt-get -f install to get all the rest
[10:35] <NET||abuse> dpkg -i blah.deb first. yes MooDoo is right, then aptget -f install  will say "dependencies are ready to install" and it'll go get them.
[10:35] <NET||abuse> then dpkg -i blah.deb again to get the package
[10:36] <NET||abuse> otherwise, i think gdebi might do it for you too
[10:37] <ujjain> meh, I think the teamviewer package is a bit crappy
[10:38] <ujjain> maybe I should use vnc,
[10:41] <NET||abuse> teamviewer sorts out the connection nat forwarding etc for you , but vnc is fine too,, though i have a big interest in starting to use spice
[10:42] <NET||abuse> otherwise look at no machine's nx
[10:42] <ujjain> yeah, I have blcoked ports here I cant change, it's a bit of a pain in the culo
[10:42] <ujjain> but i'll fin da way
[10:42] <NET||abuse> the other way is X11 forwarding :)
[10:43] <ujjain> ah, good one, but my laptop has no Linux, but Mac
[10:44] <NET||abuse> HEATHEN!!! get the nonbeliever!!!
[10:45] <Myrtti_> SHUN THE NONBELIEVER
[10:45] <Myrtti_> SHHUUuUuuNnN
[10:45] <foobarry> sacrifice him at dawn
[10:46] <NET||abuse> marry him to a goat, then try him for bestiality!!
[10:46] <ujjain> I repent my sinful way of life. :(
[10:46] <NET||abuse> hmm, i might have gone a little far there.
[10:46] <awilkins> ujjain, If your server is in colo and there are other Ubuntu servers in there htey may have an apt mirror up
[10:46] <foobarry> prove your repentance by posting a picture of your mac on fire
[10:46] <Myrtti_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CsGYh8AacgY
[10:46] <foobarry> or just boot ubuntu ;)
[10:46] <NET||abuse> :P hehe,
[10:47]  * NET||abuse whispers : pssst,, ujjain you can just boot ubuntu in virtualbox full screen,, that'll trick em!
[10:47] <NET||abuse> oh wow, does spice do audio too
[10:48] <foobarry> spice desktop?
[10:48] <foobarry> who uis using it
[10:48] <foobarry> i'm about to get redhat in to chat about it
[10:48] <ujjain> ah, maybe I should install a good OS in a virtual machine yeah.
[10:48] <davmor2> Myrtti_: thanks now I have this in my head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSTBFZ-To2E
[11:07] <diddledan> btw, mac os x does X11, too
[11:57] <popey> Uh oh
[11:57] <MooDoo> ?
[12:01] <brobostigon> how do i enbale me as a normal user, to allow raw usb device access to a raw usb device in /dev/bus/usb ?
[12:06] <willcooke> brobostigon, this might help:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=901891&page=4
[12:07] <willcooke> I think you have to create a udev rule to set the perms on the specific USB device you want access to
[12:07] <willcooke> and/or be in the plugdev group
[12:07] <brobostigon> ok, thank you.
[12:22] <davmor2> popey: just install 11 it's fine......unless there was another Uh oh ;)
[12:26]  * popey suspects davmor2 said that in the wrong channel
[12:27] <popey> \o/ 25 people have installed "my" calculator app on Ubuntu phone
[12:28] <davmor2> popey: no you said Uh oh about 30 minutes ago on this channel :P
[12:28] <popey> yes, 11:50:20 -!- willcooke [~willcooke@canonical/willcooke] has joined #ubuntu-uk
[12:28] <popey> 11:57:13 < popey> Uh oh
[12:28] <popey> ☻
[12:28] <willcooke> \o/
[12:28] <willcooke> I'm still reading the code of conduct
[12:29] <popey> haha
[12:31] <davmor2> popey: ah now it all makes sense, I have joins hidden :)
[12:31] <Laney> just don't talk about the wa^W^Wpolitics
[12:34] <davmor2> Laney: Are you taking Conservative guesses at willcooke 's liberal attitude to labour disputes that lead to stikes with that comment?
[12:35] <Laney> !POLITICS
[12:35] <davmor2> Laney: hahahahahaha
[12:37] <willcooke> :D
[12:46] <MooDoo> *yawn*
[13:05] <foobarry> went to tower hill this lunchtime
[13:05] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/QRajTtE.jpg
[13:06] <popey> blimey
[13:06] <foobarry> a sea of grey hair
[13:06] <foobarry> and some poppies
[13:28] <DJones> foobarry: Thats a cracking picture
[13:29] <foobarry> took on my phone, want to see some more?
[13:31] <DJones> Yeah, would be good, not something I'll get to see in person
[13:31] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/1KgIU
[13:32] <DJones> It looks amazing
[13:32] <foobarry> its really effective
[13:32] <foobarry> sooo many people
[13:33] <foobarry> but you can get a good view from anywhere i suppose
[13:34] <foobarry> and its free
[13:34] <foobarry> people like free things
[13:34] <foobarry> there is zreo organisation considering there were like 5-10 thousand ppl there
[13:35] <foobarry> or 20-30 thou
[13:35] <foobarry> really hard to tell
[13:41] <popey> my kids are making ceramic poppies at school
[13:43] <foobarry> nice
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> when they could be out sweeping chimneys
[13:44] <TwistedLucidity> Never sure how to feel about poppies. One the one hand it's a worthy cause, on the other a low of people (read: MPs) use it as an excuse for fawning and trying to gain reflected glory.
[13:45] <foobarry> its good to remember these things
[13:45] <foobarry> i ignore what MPs say at the best of times so meh
[13:45] <foobarry> also they are selling the 880,000 poppies to raise £11.6m
[13:45] <foobarry> to worthy charities
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> One thing that is beginning to irk me about the UK is the near deification of our armed forces. I know the put there lives at risk, I know it's a horrible job at times and they often have inadequate kit/support after conflict.
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> I get all that.
[13:48] <foobarry> hmm , do you read the sun or something?
[13:48] <foobarry> i don't see it
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> But there is an air of "If you don't support <insert military charity>, then you hate your country"
[13:49] <zmoylan-pi> then there's what if some public face *doesn't* wear a poppy
[13:49] <TwistedLucidity> It's like you need to be seen to support it in order to be socially accepted, no matter what your feelings on it may be.
[13:50] <foobarry> be careful not to think that the media speaks for people. it only speaks for a small group of insular people
[13:51] <TwistedLucidity> I'd rather see the military not used for illegal wars/nation building/etc in the first blasted place.
[13:52] <TwistedLucidity> But I guess that's fantasy vs reality.
[13:56] <TwistedLucidity> And I have broken my web server. Oh bother.
[13:57] <foobarry> need more spiders
[15:10] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[15:45] <davmor2> bigcalm: morning dude
[15:46] <bigcalm> o/
[15:46] <bigcalm> davmor2: are you well?
[15:47] <davmor2> bigcalm: I'm tired, but good thanks,  This moving half your house out, having a load of building work done, decorating and moving half your home back again just isn't as much fun as it is cracked up to be :)
[15:49] <bigcalm> Aww
[15:49] <bigcalm> Is it warmer now?
[15:50] <davmor2> bigcalm: it wasn't heating, electrics, new kitchen and new bathroom and toilet.  heating was the year before
[15:54] <bigcalm> Ah
[15:55] <bigcalm> Did you have to contribute much?
[15:59] <davmor2> bigcalm: nope just moving all the stuff, it's council so it is they that have done the work
[16:03] <bigcalm> Very nice of them
[16:04] <bigcalm> One day, Wolverhampton won't look like a complete dump. It's the people that make it a nice place though
[16:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: no it will always be a dump they aren't doing things to the outside on the inside :)
[16:06] <BigRedS> I have two 10.04 machines running Pidgin 2.10.9. One claims our jabber server's cert is invalid, the other doesn't, Anyone got any ideas why?
[16:06] <BigRedS> I don't really care about the validity of the cert, but I don't seem to be able to say 'ignore cert errors' or even 'don't use encryption'
[16:08] <bigcalm> davmor2: I hope that the council go in for exterior renovation (as can be seen on Birmingham's towers)
[16:09] <davmor2> bigcalm: no too damned expensive :)
[16:18] <czajkowski> anyone hknow how you associate an email address with google for calendar ?
[16:21] <ujjain> who understands routes?
[16:21] <ujjain> how do I replace 10.42.182.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0 < by tun-aib0?
[16:23] <popey> czajkowski: eh?
[16:26] <czajkowski> I have outlook mail and their calendar but it's not very nice to use
[16:26] <czajkowski> I want to use gogole calendar for my calendar and wondered how to get that to work
[16:26] <czajkowski> I'm sure there is  a way
[16:27] <popey> uh, i dont think you can do that
[16:28] <czajkowski> *mutters*
[16:28] <czajkowski> popey: thanks
[16:28] <czajkowski> popey: see my shiny red notebook :p
[16:29] <popey> yeah ☻
[16:34] <mapps> getting cold at nights here now :((
[16:35] <czajkowski> yup had the fire on for thelast few nights
[16:35] <mapps> ive only got 1 pair of jeans here though!
[16:35] <mapps> and 1 hoodie..rest shorts and tshirts;D
[16:47] <czajkowski> popey: oh if I add the other email address in google under other email addresses I can then see any calendars added :D
[16:47] <diddledan> I might need to close my window tonight
[17:16] <bigcalm> Anybody use a mssql server browser in linux?
[17:17] <awilkins> You can probably use Oracle SQL Workbench with the appropriate JDBC connector?
[17:17] <awilkins> (but, no, not personally)
[17:18] <bigcalm> Humm, might be worth having a look at, ta
[17:19] <awilkins> There's a Thing for Eclipse too
[17:19] <awilkins> Also JDBC powered
[21:24] <Azelphur> http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186338-d1657415-r237650360-Park_Plaza_Westminster_Bridge_London-London_England.html this response to my review is bizarre, "Not sure what happened with the wifi it's just exactly as you said it was"
[21:50] <mapps> what was wrong with the wifi?:D
[21:51] <popey> you left a vaguely technical review and someone non-technical replied, clearly
[21:54] <Azelphur> popey: haha, god alone knows :P
[21:55] <Azelphur> mapps: it was capped to 1mbit/sec, real world I was getting about 0.7 out of it, was useless as I say, went to tethering and got like 6mbit/sec
[22:09] <Azelphur> friend just got a job at Microsoft, we are trying to convince him to wear a ReactOS shirt on his first day :)
[22:09] <zmoylan-pi> a big tux on his desk
[22:10] <Azelphur> exactly.
[22:40] <MooDoo> evening
[23:07] <MooDoo> :)
[23:08] <diddledan> have I broken my network or is www.google.com dead?
[23:21] <daftykins> diddledan: alive-alive-o here
[23:22] <diddledan> other services are working ok
[23:22] <diddledan> like bing
[23:22] <diddledan> but anything google is timing out
[23:24] <daftykins> tracert'd to see where it dies?
[23:27] <diddledan> ergh
[23:27] <diddledan> that's annoying
[23:28] <diddledan> it's "remembered" a route via virginmedia even though 1) the route is currently turned off, and 2) my virgin connection isn't activated by virgin yet
[23:29] <diddledan> so it blackholes in virgin's helpful "you're not activated yet" singularity
[23:30] <daftykins> how are you online then?
[23:30] <daftykins> what skullduggery is this?
[23:33] <zmoylan-pi> he's viewing the matrix directly
[23:35] <daftykins> ah
[23:35] <diddledan> lol
[23:35] <daftykins> that explains the cloud of green rising from diddledan
[23:40] <diddledan> this is actually pretty ok considering it was done entirely on the iphone: http://whitchurch.org.uk/news/whitchurch-man-achieves-world-first-with-iphone-6/