[00:08] how does one go about contributing to opensource? [00:09] Good question paullus. Start with the software you use [00:10] Through bug reporting and documentation [00:11] I'm using Ubuntu and Linux mint at the moment. Busy phasing windows out of my life ;) [00:12] OK, when I encounter a bug, I'll get involved [00:13] paullus: Do you write software? [00:13] The bigger the project, generally it becomes harder to make a difference. [00:13] Yeah, I've done some programming in a few languages (a few years ago). [00:14] Also done testing and documentation. [00:17] Well, that is what open source contribs are. Code, testing, debugging, docs [00:18] cool thanks. [04:56] morning all [05:59] alo [05:59] ai [06:05] objection! [06:07] morning peeps [06:08] 'o' [06:08] hello [06:42] god mornings [06:42] good as well [06:42] hi nlsthzn ThatGraemeGuy inetpro [06:42] ohi can [06:42] 'lo [06:42] ai! [06:43] ajor work here [06:43] major as well [06:50] hi Squirm [06:50] other one too [06:51] Squirm[Mac], is Squirm running from old job? [06:53] morning [06:53] no [06:53] running from my bouncer [06:53] ah [06:53] which I can't remember the password to [06:53] lol [06:53] :/ [06:57] Seriously? [06:57] hi Trixar_za [06:57] Hey Kilos [06:58] While better, MineTest 0.4.10 lags way more than 0.4.9 [06:59] lag or low FPS? [07:00] * nlsthzn strokes Minecraft and looks at the amazing new storms in the game... purdy [07:00] Lag and sometimes the FPS drop [07:01] lag is down to your network connection, fps has to do with your hardware, and/or parts of the engine that just aren't optimised properly yet [07:01] i almost never get lag even on crappy 3G connections [07:02] and i play on a server hosted in the U.S. so that's saying something [07:05] And that listener error is back [07:06] Actually, it's worse [07:06] using a packaged version or built from source? [07:10] ohi [07:14] f [07:14] r [07:14] i [07:14] s [07:14] c [07:14] o [07:14] frisco! [07:19] hi superfly [07:19] packages version - and it's a common bug even with the source - they call it the infinite fall bug [07:19] coffee time nlsthzn [07:19] Hmmm [07:19] yup [07:20] some SA coffee too :D [07:20] Only shaders seem to majorly effect FPS [07:20] lekker [07:20] I can use mipmapping and the filtering options and get about the same speeds [07:24] so I heard some of you like to play games - https://archive.org/details/internetarcade [07:24] blast from the past [07:28] Trixar_za: I turned off all that fancy nonsense except smooth lighting and I get aaround 50FPS with my crappy Intel whatever graphics [07:28] without smooth lighting it just looks weird [07:28] never heard of any infinite fall bug though :-/ [07:35] morning [07:36] anyone here who knows apache real well [07:36] hi Symmetria [07:36] define "real well" :-p [07:37] lol [07:37] ThatGraemeGuy: Which version are you running? [07:38] latest git [07:38] From when [07:39] i just did a pull and i'm up to date [07:43] I just tried your method [07:43] inetpro, did you ever find the costs of getting fibre [07:43] It's about the same. Max is about 35FPS and the low is about 19FPS - it averages around 25FPS though. [07:44] wow weird [07:45] i thought my graphics were pretty average [07:45] Everything turned on (except shaders), it just drops by 1-2fps [07:47] Symmetria: I don't know apache as well as I did some years ago but what I do know is that apache performance sucks compared to nginx these days, at least on a busy site with php on the back end [07:59] * Kilos making kaaings for supper [08:00] * ThatGraemeGuy buys a plane ticket [08:00] hrm, sorry was afk for a minute [08:00] what time shall i be there [08:00] I've got an issue where sourceforge is claiming that .htaccess file isnt being used [08:00] they sent me an email but Im not really sure where to start looking [08:00] you like ThatGraemeGuy ? [08:00] so if there is someone I can forward this to that can give me some guidance that would help :) [08:00] I do! [08:01] Symmetria: I'll take a look [08:01] ThatGraemeGuy email addy? [08:01] kaaing sarmies are lekker [08:01] will pm [08:01] just cut up 4kgs fat into small blocks [08:01] "Apache is like Microsoft Word, it has a million options but you only need six. Nginx does those six things, and it does five of them 50 times faster than Apache." — Chris Lea on nginx and Wordpress [08:04] Symmetria: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/htaccess.html [08:05] .htaccess files should be avoided when possible [08:07] ThatGraemeGuy: You know what's funny? [08:07] I just tried it with a public server and it's actually getting 40fps [08:07] heh inetpro the htaccess file in this case does a LOT of things [08:08] Trixar_za: was the low fps on your local single player game? [08:08] And local single player server (non-public) [08:10] fixed it [08:10] :) YAY [08:10] On the upside, seems the server loading code has been fixed - lol [08:11] Symmetria: oh, cool [08:12] still getting an error on tht php stuff but its different from what they gave me [08:12] Trixar_za: yeah running server and client locally might just be too much for your pc [08:12] there's still a lot of optimisation that can be done [08:13] Symmetria: what did you change/fix and what is still broken? [08:13] the Directory in the config file that does the RemoveHandler etc hadn't been edited properly [08:13] its still trying to process php files though rather than just downloading them [08:14] http://liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/project/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php [08:14] that should just download [08:14] instead its returning an internal server error [08:15] what does apache's main error log have to say? [08:16] [Thu Nov 06 11:13:50.830146 2014] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 42571] mod_rewrite.c(468): [client 196.40.111.5:60350] 196.40.111.5 - - [liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/sid#7ffc88a1a978][rid#7ffc8891f0a0/initial] init rewrite engine with requested uri /project/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php [08:16] [Thu Nov 06 11:13:50.830252 2014] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 42571] mod_rewrite.c(468): [client 196.40.111.5:60350] 196.40.111.5 - - [liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/sid#7ffc88a1a978][rid#7ffc8891f0a0/initial] rewrite '/project/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php' -> '/mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php' [08:16] [Thu Nov 06 11:13:50.830272 2014] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 42571] mod_rewrite.c(468): [client 196.40.111.5:60350] 196.40.111.5 - - [liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/sid#7ffc88a1a978][rid#7ffc8891f0a0/initial] local path result: /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php [08:16] thats pretty much it [08:17] ok add these 2 to the vhost, reload apache and try again [08:17] LogLevel warn [08:17] ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/sf-error.log [08:17] what version of apache are you running Symmetria? [08:18] [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579106 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Warning: include(../Connections/Database.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 4 [08:18] [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579228 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Warning: include(): Failed opening '../Connections/Database.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 4 [08:18] [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579318 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: HTTP_SERVER_VARS in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 164 [08:18] [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579413 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Warning: require_once(viewer.class.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 165 [08:18] [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579439 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required 'viewer.class.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 165 [08:18] 2.4 [08:19] 2.4.9+ ? [08:19] 2.4.7 [08:19] hmm... [08:20] apparently apache's event mpm in 2.4.9+ can match nginx [08:21] not that your issue right now has anything to do with performance [08:21] PHP Warning: include(../Connections/Database.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory <-- this seems to be the root of it [08:23] ThatGraemeGuy well, isn't that coming from inside the php file, which its trying to process [08:23] it shouldnt be processing php AT ALL, other than as a normal file [08:23] because I removed the handler [08:24] hey Symmetria [08:24] oh ok [08:24] you want people to download the raw php code? o_O [08:24] yes with sourceforge I do [08:25] 'lo ThatGraemeGuy [08:25] so they'll end up with a text file containing "php" [08:26] fixed :P [08:26] By changing AllowOverride? :) [08:26] yeah if you try get that file now you'll see, they end up with the php file :) [08:26] no [08:27] [08:27] SetHandler application/octet-stream [08:27] [08:27] ;p [08:27] ok cool [08:27] which means next time sourceforge verification runs this should all work [08:27] hmm... [08:28] also FYI with "AllowOverride None" none of the directives in your .htaccess are being processed [08:28] assuming that .htaccess is inside the directory where you are saying "AllowOverride None" [08:29] yeah thats in / but thats not all that important, its the /mirror-data/sourceforge where its important [08:29] ... [08:30] And now I'm so bored that I'm building my own minetest server [08:40] its fun for a bit but its more fun playing on a server where there are a lot of active players [08:43] lol Im playing world of warcraft again these days [08:43] ;p [08:45] i tried it with the 7 day free trial they gave out [08:45] played it a bit, but its still the same game [08:45] got bored [09:03] ThatGraemeGuy: I think you may be right - it's crap fast with the server [09:03] :P [09:12] yeah come build with me :) [09:12] you can build my house, i'm crap at that [09:13] i've built an epic factory, i have no problem gathering massive amounts of stuff, but i'm not good at using to build nice stuff [09:57] hi StonedAlchemist gremble TinuvaMac [10:04] hi Kilos [10:19] good morning [10:19] Maaz: coffee on [10:19] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [10:19] Maaz: coffee please [10:19] Squirm[Mac]: Done [10:23] Coffee's ready for charl and Squirm[Mac]! [10:37] Maaz, tea please [10:37] As soon as the kettle boils nlsthzn I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already [10:37] thanks Maaz [10:37] Maaz, thanks [10:37] nlsthzn: Sure [10:37] :p [11:54] Maaz, coffee please [11:54] Trixar_za: There isn't a pot on [11:54] :( [11:54] lol [11:54] Maaz: coffee on [11:54] * Maaz washes some mugs [11:58] Coffee's ready for Trixar_za! [11:59] Maaz: Thanks [11:59] Trixar_za: Sure [12:20] Does Maaz have an actual function such as logging or moderating or is it just a comodity bot? [12:24] he logs meetings every month [12:31] and can check if sites are up [12:32] and lots of other things [12:38] Maaz, help [12:38] Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [12:38] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [13:53] ThatGraemeGuy, is there an english word for kaaings [13:53] or anyone else can say [13:55] no idea, & google isn't helping either [13:55] my ma is afrikaans dis al woord wat ek ken :) [13:55] lol ek ook [13:56] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPbahj27nI [13:56] thats all i find but dont do youtube vids [14:22] Kilos: Scratchings [14:22] or pork crackling [14:22] or pork rind [14:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_rind [14:23] crackling? yeah, not a fan [14:23] * inetpro loves it [14:24] very very lekker [14:24] now I'm hungry [14:25] a lekker pork joint coated in crunchy crackling... ai! [14:37] found this http://www.chefprive.co.za/2011/07/pig-weekend/ [14:37] but we dont make pork kaaings we use beef fat [14:38] only pork i eat is smoked pickled eisbein [14:38] mmm beef? I've only had it made with mutton/lamb fat weird [14:38] ya mutton lamb is also good [14:39] but at the butcher you can buy the correect fat from beef for R3 a kilo [14:39] we render it then save it in bottles for cooking with [14:40] makes better stews and curries than using oil to fry the stuff first [14:40] i've actually never made them myself, i should figure out how its done sometime [14:41] that link shows how [14:41] ciao ciao all [14:42] you just put it in a pot and let it cook till rendered [15:18] is the hangouts on tablets the same hangouts at g+? [16:09] wow parents are funny peeps [16:10] just found one of my primary school arithmetic homework books in moms boxes [16:11] imagine keeping such a book for 45 years [16:37] * Squirm[Mac] has a look around [16:38] * gremble hides in a bush [16:42] heh [16:42] Maaz: ? [16:42] Squirm[Mac]: What? [16:48] am I here? [16:49] Maaz: ? [16:49] Squirm[M_: *blink* [16:49] ok [16:49] so dropped my connection down to Edge [16:49] and voila [16:49] hi Squirm[M_ === Squirm[M_ is now known as Squirm_ === Squirm_ is now known as Squirm[Mac] [16:53] gremble, why you hiding? [16:54] Because [16:55] hehe [16:55] bbiab [16:56] hmmm [16:56] better [16:56] ^^ [16:57] ah did you remember your password [16:58] Trixar_za got around t0 resetting it for me [16:58] I guess I could have [16:59] i go eat [18:10] good eveing [18:10] *evening [18:12] hi charl [18:12] you sick? [18:16] good evning all] [18:18] good evening Kilos [18:18] no why? [18:18] hi magespawn [18:19] you aint ordered coffee [18:19] hi there magespawn [18:19] already got some this morning :) [18:19] lol [18:20] ja.... [18:20] how are things going [18:20] StonedAlchemist, did you see what else the bot can do [18:20] you people were quite busy after the last meeting [18:21] No, what can the bot do? [18:21] You mean Maaz ? [18:21] did you look at the re-app thing [18:21] yes Maaz [18:21] no sorry i think i missed it [18:21] i was off freenode for a few days [18:21] had some connectivity issues [18:21] hi charl [18:21] hi Kilos [18:22] Maaz, help [18:22] Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [18:22] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [18:22] StonedAlchemist, ^^ [18:22] Maaz, where are my glasses? [18:22] StonedAlchemist: I'm afraid I have no idea [18:22] haha [18:22] Shit. [18:22] Maaz help me with system administration [18:22] magespawn: I use the following features for system administration: apt-file, aptitude, dns, http, ipcalc, mac, man, nmap, ping, ports, tld and tracepath [18:22] Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details. [18:22] It's on my face XD [18:23] Maaz traceroute 8.8.8.8 [18:23] magespawn: What? [18:23] Maaz tracepath 8.8.8.8 [18:23] Maaz ping 8.8.8.8 [18:23] magespawn: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 16.199/16.367/16.744/0.257 ms [18:24] Maaz how do I use nmap [18:24] magespawn: Finds open network ports on a host or scans a subnet for active hosts. You can use it like this: [18:24] port scan [18:24] net scan / [18:24] ah you can find his ip like that [18:24] magespawn: 1: mammon.mene.za.net 0.133ms pmtu 1500 [18:24] 1: physical.omnia.za.net 0.499ms [18:24] 1: physical.omnia.za.net 0.460ms [18:24] 2: static.129.97.40.188.clients.your-server.de 1.274ms [18:24] 3: hos-tr1.juniper1.rz10.hetzner.de 0.847ms [18:24] i can't imagine that it would allow you to nmap stuff [18:25] ah it doesn't have rate limiting in its output [18:25] that's pretty bad [18:25] we can kill it now :P [18:25] Maaz how doo i use tracepath [18:25] magespawn: What? [18:25] nonono charl [18:25] Maaz: how do i use http [18:25] charl: Tests if an HTTP site is up and retrieves HTTP URLs. You can use it like this: [18:25] (get|head) [18:25] is (up|down) [18:25] tell me when is up [18:25] dont kill our bot man [18:26] Kilos: it's buggy [18:26] Maaz: http google.com [18:26] charl: What? [18:26] Maaz how do i use tracepath [18:26] magespawn: Traces the path to the given host. You can use it like this: [18:26] tracepath [18:26] Maaz: http get google.com [18:26] charl: What? [18:26] then speak to tumbleweed dont kill the bot [18:26] Maaz: get google.com [18:26] charl: 302 Found to http://www.google.de/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=Vb1bVNj8DMaH8Qf764CYAw, which gets a 200 OK "Google" [18:26] Maaz is gandcnet.co.za up [18:26] ah it's hosted in germany [18:27] Maaz is www.gandcnet.co.za up [18:27] Maaz: get www.gandcnet.co.za [18:27] charl: 206 Partial Content ":: MWEB Business - Achieve the extraordinary ::" [18:27] Maaz is http://www.gandcnet.co.za up [18:28] Kilos: it's vulnerable, we're not going to kill it :P maaz is our friend (and our coffee butler [18:28] charl why get? [18:28] dunno that's what it said [18:28] Maaz: how do i use http [18:28] charl: Tests if an HTTP site is up and retrieves HTTP URLs. You can use it like this: [18:28] (get|head) [18:28] is (up|down) [18:28] tell me when is up [18:28] i used the first one [18:29] seems like the second one is broken [18:29] Maaz: tell me when google.com is up [18:29] charl: http://google.com/ is up right now [18:29] Maaz: is google.com up [18:29] charl: Yes, http://www.google.de/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D75bVNa9GMWH8QeL4oDICg is up [18:29] weird !! [18:30] Maaz: is www.gandcnet.co.za up [18:30] charl: Yes, http://www.gandcnet.co.za/ is up [18:30] oh now i see, you didn't have a : after maaz's name [18:30] magespawn: ^^ [18:30] ahh right [18:30] Maaz: is gandcnet.co.za up [18:30] magespawn: Yes, http://gandcnet.co.za/ is up [18:31] hi jaysen [18:31] ah there we go! [18:31] hi jaysen [18:31] hi Kilos [18:31] Maaz: is gandcnet.com up [18:31] magespawn: No, http://gandcnet.com/ is down (Not Found) [18:31] hey Charl [18:31] Maaz: is www.gandcnet.com up [18:31] magespawn: Yes, http://www.gandcnet.com/ is up [18:31] i thought i had the redirect going for both [18:32] Maaz: is www.gandcnet.co.za up [18:32] magespawn: Yes, http://www.gandcnet.co.za/ is up [18:32] ahh something to sort out then [18:32] charl, Maaz is an old bot,hasnt been upgraded for years [18:32] go to my channel and see if spotty or QA still have same bug [18:33] probably... not important though [18:33] not enough people use it to make it important [18:33] only us and we're trustworthy right :P [18:34] riiiight :P [18:34] ya supposed to be [18:34] :D [18:34] it's a pretty old problem with irc bots and clients in general [18:34] if you do bad stuffs we kick/ban you [18:34] most clients implemented rate limiting to stop from flooding the server and getting disconnected/killed [18:35] like irssi you can paste huge texts without having a problem because the client will automatically limit you [18:35] Evening gentlemen. [18:35] hi Joe_knock [18:35] hi Joe_knock [18:35] hi gremble [18:35] How are you all? charl , Kilos [18:36] good ty Joe_knock and you? [18:36] I'm good. [18:36]