[00:08] <paullus> how does one go about contributing to opensource?
[00:09] <Joe_knock> Good question paullus. Start with the software you use
[00:10] <Joe_knock> Through bug reporting and documentation
[00:11] <paullus> I'm using Ubuntu and Linux mint at the moment. Busy phasing windows out of my life ;)
[00:12] <paullus> OK, when I encounter a bug, I'll get involved 
[00:13] <Joe_knock> paullus: Do you write software?
[00:13] <Joe_knock> The bigger the project, generally it becomes harder to make a difference.
[00:13] <paullus> Yeah, I've done some programming in a few languages (a few years ago).
[00:14] <paullus> Also done testing and documentation.
[00:17] <Joe_knock> Well, that is what open source contribs are. Code, testing, debugging, docs
[00:18] <paullus> cool thanks.
[04:56] <Kilos> morning all
[05:59] <nlsthzn> alo
[05:59] <Cantide> ai
[06:05] <nlsthzn> objection!
[06:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[06:08] <Cantide> 'o'
[06:08] <Cantide> hello
[06:42] <inetpro> god mornings
[06:42] <inetpro> good as well
[06:42] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn ThatGraemeGuy inetpro 
[06:42] <Kilos> ohi can
[06:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[06:42] <Kilos> ai!
[06:43] <Kilos>  ajor work here
[06:43] <Kilos> major as well
[06:50] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:50] <Kilos> other one too
[06:51] <Kilos> Squirm[Mac], is Squirm running from old job?
[06:53] <Squirm[Mac]> morning
[06:53] <Squirm[Mac]> no
[06:53] <Squirm[Mac]> running from my bouncer
[06:53] <Kilos> ah
[06:53] <Squirm[Mac]> which I can't remember the password to
[06:53] <Kilos> lol
[06:53] <Squirm[Mac]> :/
[06:57] <Trixar_za> Seriously?
[06:57] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[06:57] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[06:58] <Trixar_za> While better, MineTest 0.4.10 lags way more than 0.4.9
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> lag or low FPS?
[07:00]  * nlsthzn strokes Minecraft and looks at the amazing new storms in the game... purdy
[07:00] <Trixar_za> Lag and sometimes the FPS drop
[07:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> lag is down to your network connection, fps has to do with your hardware, and/or parts of the engine that just aren't optimised properly yet
[07:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> i almost never get lag even on crappy 3G connections
[07:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> and i play on a server hosted in the U.S. so that's saying something
[07:05] <Trixar_za> And that listener error is back
[07:06] <Trixar_za> Actually, it's worse
[07:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> using a packaged version or built from source?
[07:10] <superfly> ohi
[07:14] <nlsthzn> f
[07:14] <nlsthzn> r
[07:14] <nlsthzn> i
[07:14] <nlsthzn> s
[07:14] <nlsthzn> c
[07:14] <nlsthzn> o
[07:14] <nlsthzn> frisco!
[07:19] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[07:19] <Trixar_za> packages version - and it's a common bug even with the source - they call it the infinite fall bug
[07:19] <Kilos> coffee time nlsthzn 
[07:19] <Trixar_za> Hmmm
[07:19] <nlsthzn> yup
[07:20] <nlsthzn> some SA coffee too :D
[07:20] <Trixar_za> Only shaders seem to majorly effect FPS
[07:20] <Kilos> lekker
[07:20] <Trixar_za> I can use mipmapping and the filtering options and get about the same speeds
[07:24] <nlsthzn> so I heard some of you like to play games - https://archive.org/details/internetarcade
[07:24] <nlsthzn> blast from the past
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> Trixar_za: I turned off all that fancy nonsense except smooth lighting and I get aaround 50FPS with my crappy Intel whatever graphics
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> without smooth lighting it just looks weird
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> never heard of any infinite fall bug though :-/
[07:35] <Symmetria> morning
[07:36] <Symmetria> anyone here who knows apache real well
[07:36] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[07:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> define "real well" :-p
[07:37] <Kilos> lol
[07:37] <Trixar_za> ThatGraemeGuy: Which version are you running?
[07:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> latest git
[07:38] <Trixar_za> From when
[07:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> i just did a pull and i'm up to date
[07:43] <Trixar_za> I just tried your method
[07:43] <Kilos> inetpro, did you ever find the costs of getting fibre
[07:43] <Trixar_za> It's about the same. Max is about 35FPS and the low is about 19FPS - it averages around 25FPS though.
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> wow weird
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> i thought my graphics were pretty average
[07:45] <Trixar_za> Everything turned on (except shaders), it just drops by 1-2fps
[07:47] <inetpro> Symmetria: I don't know apache as well as I did some years ago but what I do know is that apache performance sucks compared to nginx these days, at least on a busy site with php on the back end
[07:59]  * Kilos making kaaings for supper
[08:00]  * ThatGraemeGuy buys a plane ticket
[08:00] <Symmetria> hrm, sorry was afk for a minute
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> what time shall i be there
[08:00] <Symmetria> I've got an issue where sourceforge is claiming that .htaccess file isnt being used
[08:00] <Symmetria> they sent me an email but Im not really sure where to start looking
[08:00] <Kilos> you like ThatGraemeGuy ?
[08:00] <Symmetria> so if there is someone I can forward this to that can give me some guidance that would help :)
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> I do!
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria: I'll take a look
[08:01] <Symmetria> ThatGraemeGuy email addy?
[08:01] <Kilos> kaaing sarmies are lekker
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> will pm
[08:01] <Kilos> just cut up 4kgs fat into small blocks
[08:01] <inetpro> "Apache is like Microsoft Word, it has a million options but you only need six. Nginx does those six things, and it does five of them 50 times faster than Apache."  — Chris Lea on nginx and Wordpress 
[08:04] <inetpro> Symmetria: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/htaccess.html
[08:05] <inetpro> .htaccess files should be avoided when possible
[08:07] <Trixar_za> ThatGraemeGuy: You know what's funny?
[08:07] <Trixar_za> I just tried it with a public server and it's actually getting 40fps
[08:07] <Symmetria> heh inetpro the htaccess file in this case does a LOT of things
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> Trixar_za: was the low fps on your local single player game?
[08:08] <Trixar_za> And local single player server (non-public)
[08:10] <Symmetria> fixed it
[08:10] <Symmetria> :) YAY
[08:10] <Trixar_za> On the upside, seems the server loading code has been fixed - lol
[08:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria: oh, cool
[08:12] <Symmetria> still getting an error on tht php stuff but its different from what they gave me
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> Trixar_za: yeah running server and client locally might just be too much for your pc
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's still a lot of optimisation that can be done
[08:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria: what did you change/fix and what is still broken?
[08:13] <Symmetria> the Directory in the config file that does the RemoveHandler etc hadn't been edited properly
[08:13] <Symmetria> its still trying to process php files though rather than just downloading them
[08:14] <Symmetria> http://liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/project/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php
[08:14] <Symmetria> that should just download 
[08:14] <Symmetria> instead its returning an internal server error
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> what does apache's main error log have to say?
[08:16] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:13:50.830146 2014] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 42571] mod_rewrite.c(468): [client 196.40.111.5:60350] 196.40.111.5 - - [liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/sid#7ffc88a1a978][rid#7ffc8891f0a0/initial] init rewrite engine with requested uri /project/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php
[08:16] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:13:50.830252 2014] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 42571] mod_rewrite.c(468): [client 196.40.111.5:60350] 196.40.111.5 - - [liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/sid#7ffc88a1a978][rid#7ffc8891f0a0/initial] rewrite '/project/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php' -> '/mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php'
[08:16] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:13:50.830272 2014] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 42571] mod_rewrite.c(468): [client 196.40.111.5:60350] 196.40.111.5 - - [liquidtelecom.dl.sourceforge.net/sid#7ffc88a1a978][rid#7ffc8891f0a0/initial] local path result: /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php
[08:16] <Symmetria> thats pretty much it
[08:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok add these 2 to the vhost, reload apache and try again
[08:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> LogLevel warn
[08:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/sf-error.log
[08:17] <inetpro> what version of apache are you running Symmetria?
[08:18] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579106 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Warning:  include(../Connections/Database.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 4
[08:18] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579228 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Warning:  include(): Failed opening '../Connections/Database.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 4
[08:18] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579318 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Notice:  Undefined variable: HTTP_SERVER_VARS in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 164
[08:18] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579413 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Warning:  require_once(viewer.class.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 165
[08:18] <Symmetria> [Thu Nov 06 11:17:17.579439 2014] [:error] [pid 43682] [client 197.155.77.8:34651] PHP Fatal error:  require_once(): Failed opening required 'viewer.class.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /mirror-data/sourceforge/o/oa/oabs/oabs/OABSv1.7/flights.php on line 165
[08:18] <Symmetria> 2.4
[08:19] <inetpro> 2.4.9+ ?
[08:19] <Symmetria> 2.4.7
[08:19] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:20] <inetpro> apparently apache's event mpm in 2.4.9+ can match nginx
[08:21] <inetpro> not that your issue right now has anything to do with performance
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> PHP Warning:  include(../Connections/Database.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory <-- this seems to be the root of it
[08:23] <Symmetria> ThatGraemeGuy well, isn't that coming from inside the php file, which its trying to process
[08:23] <Symmetria> it shouldnt be processing php AT ALL, other than as a normal file
[08:23] <Symmetria> because I removed the handler
[08:24] <Squirm[Mac]> hey Symmetria
[08:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh ok
[08:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> you want people to download the raw php code? o_O
[08:24] <Symmetria> yes with sourceforge I do
[08:25] <Squirm[Mac]> 'lo ThatGraemeGuy
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> so they'll end up with a text file containing "<?php .... bla(); etc(); ?>php"
[08:26] <Symmetria> fixed :P
[08:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> By changing AllowOverride? :)
[08:26] <Symmetria> yeah if you try get that file now you'll see, they end up with the php file :)
[08:26] <Symmetria> no
[08:27] <Symmetria> <FilesMatch ".+\.ph(p[345]?|t|tml)$">
[08:27] <Symmetria>     SetHandler application/octet-stream
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[08:27] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok cool
[08:27] <Symmetria> which means next time sourceforge verification runs this should all work
[08:27] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> also FYI with "AllowOverride None" none of the directives in your .htaccess are being processed
[08:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> assuming that .htaccess is inside the directory where you are saying "AllowOverride None"
[08:29] <Symmetria> yeah thats in / but thats not all that important, its the /mirror-data/sourceforge where its important
[08:29] <Trixar_za> ...
[08:30] <Trixar_za> And now I'm so bored that I'm building my own minetest server
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> its fun for a bit but its more fun playing on a server where there are a lot of active players
[08:43] <Symmetria> lol Im playing world of warcraft again these days
[08:43] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:45] <TinuvaMac> i tried it with the 7 day free trial they gave out
[08:45] <TinuvaMac> played it a bit, but its still the same game
[08:45] <TinuvaMac> got bored
[09:03] <Trixar_za> ThatGraemeGuy: I think you may be right - it's crap fast with the server
[09:03] <Trixar_za> :P
[09:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah come build with me :)
[09:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can build my house, i'm crap at that
[09:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> i've built an epic factory, i have no problem gathering massive amounts of stuff, but i'm not good at using to build nice stuff
[09:57] <Kilos> hi StonedAlchemist gremble TinuvaMac 
[10:04] <TinuvaMac> hi Kilos
[10:19] <charl> good morning
[10:19] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:19]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:19] <Squirm[Mac]> Maaz: coffee please
[10:19] <Maaz> Squirm[Mac]: Done
[10:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Squirm[Mac]!
[10:37] <nlsthzn> Maaz, tea please
[10:37] <Maaz> As soon as the kettle boils nlsthzn I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already
[10:37] <nlsthzn> thanks Maaz 
[10:37] <nlsthzn> Maaz, thanks
[10:37] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Sure
[10:37] <nlsthzn> :p
[11:54] <Trixar_za> Maaz, coffee please
[11:54] <Maaz> Trixar_za: There isn't a pot on
[11:54] <Trixar_za> :(
[11:54] <Trixar_za> lol
[11:54] <Trixar_za> Maaz: coffee on
[11:54]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[11:58] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Trixar_za!
[11:59] <Trixar_za> Maaz: Thanks
[11:59] <Maaz> Trixar_za: Sure
[12:20] <StonedAlchemist> Does Maaz have an actual function such as logging or moderating or is it just a comodity bot?
[12:24] <Kilos> he logs meetings every month
[12:31] <Kilos> and can check if sites are up
[12:32] <Kilos> and lots of other things
[12:38] <Kilos> Maaz, help
[12:38] <Maaz> Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[12:38] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[13:53] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, is there an english word for kaaings
[13:53] <Kilos> or anyone else can say
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> no idea, & google isn't helping either
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> my ma is afrikaans dis al woord wat ek ken :)
[13:55] <Kilos> lol ek ook
[13:56] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPbahj27nI
[13:56] <Kilos> thats all i find but dont do youtube vids
[14:22] <inetpro> Kilos: Scratchings
[14:22] <inetpro> or pork crackling
[14:22] <inetpro> or pork rind
[14:23] <inetpro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_rind
[14:23] <superfly> crackling? yeah, not a fan
[14:23]  * inetpro loves it
[14:24] <inetpro> very very lekker
[14:24] <inetpro> now I'm hungry
[14:25] <inetpro> a lekker pork joint coated in crunchy crackling... ai!
[14:37] <Kilos> found this http://www.chefprive.co.za/2011/07/pig-weekend/
[14:37] <Kilos> but we dont make pork kaaings we use beef fat
[14:38] <Kilos> only pork i eat is smoked pickled eisbein
[14:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmm beef? I've only had it made with mutton/lamb fat weird
[14:38] <Kilos> ya mutton lamb is also good
[14:39] <Kilos> but at the butcher you can buy the correect fat from beef for R3 a kilo
[14:39] <Kilos> we render it then save it in bottles for cooking with
[14:40] <Kilos> makes better stews and curries than using oil to fry the stuff first
[14:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> i've actually never made them myself, i should figure out how its done sometime
[14:41] <Kilos> that link shows how 
[14:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> ciao ciao all
[14:42] <Kilos> you just put it in a pot and let it cook till rendered
[15:18] <Kilos> is the hangouts on tablets the same hangouts at g+?
[16:09] <Kilos> wow parents are funny peeps
[16:10] <Kilos> just found one of my primary school arithmetic homework books in moms boxes
[16:11] <Kilos> imagine keeping such a book for 45 years
[16:37]  * Squirm[Mac] has a look around
[16:38]  * gremble hides in a bush
[16:42] <Squirm[Mac]> heh
[16:42] <Squirm[Mac]> Maaz: ?
[16:42] <Maaz> Squirm[Mac]: What?
[16:48] <Squirm[M_> am I here?
[16:49] <Squirm[M_> Maaz: ?
[16:49] <Maaz> Squirm[M_: *blink*
[16:49] <Squirm[M_> ok
[16:49] <Squirm[M_> so dropped my connection down to Edge
[16:49] <Squirm[M_> and voila
[16:49] <Kilos> hi Squirm[M_ 
[16:53] <Kilos> gremble, why you hiding?
[16:54] <gremble> Because 
[16:55] <Kilos> hehe
[16:55] <Squirm[Mac]> bbiab
[16:56] <Squirm> hmmm
[16:56] <Squirm> better
[16:56] <Squirm> ^^
[16:57] <Kilos> ah did you remember your password
[16:58] <Squirm> Trixar_za got around t0 resetting it for me
[16:58] <Squirm> I guess I could have
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[18:10] <charl> good eveing
[18:10] <charl> *evening
[18:12] <Kilos> hi charl 
[18:12] <Kilos> you sick?
[18:16] <magespawn> good evning all]
[18:18] <charl> good evening Kilos 
[18:18] <charl> no why?
[18:18] <charl> hi magespawn 
[18:19] <Kilos> you aint ordered coffee
[18:19] <Kilos> hi there magespawn 
[18:19] <charl> already got some this morning :)
[18:19] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <charl> ja....
[18:20] <charl> how are things going
[18:20] <Kilos> StonedAlchemist, did you see what else the bot can do
[18:20] <charl> you people were quite busy after the last meeting
[18:21] <StonedAlchemist> No, what can the bot do?
[18:21] <StonedAlchemist> You mean Maaz ?
[18:21] <Kilos> did you look at the re-app thing
[18:21] <Kilos> yes Maaz 
[18:21] <charl> no sorry i think i missed it
[18:21] <charl> i was off freenode for a few days
[18:21] <charl> had some connectivity issues
[18:21] <magespawn> hi charl
[18:21] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[18:22] <Kilos> Maaz, help
[18:22] <Maaz> Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[18:22] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[18:22] <Kilos> StonedAlchemist, ^^
[18:22] <StonedAlchemist> Maaz, where are my glasses?
[18:22] <Maaz> StonedAlchemist: I'm afraid I have no idea
[18:22] <Kilos> haha
[18:22] <StonedAlchemist> Shit.
[18:22] <magespawn> Maaz help me with system administration
[18:22] <Maaz> magespawn: I use the following features for system administration: apt-file, aptitude, dns, http, ipcalc, mac, man, nmap, ping, ports, tld and tracepath
[18:22] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[18:22] <StonedAlchemist> It's on my face XD
[18:23] <magespawn> Maaz traceroute 8.8.8.8
[18:23] <Maaz> magespawn: What?
[18:23] <magespawn> Maaz tracepath 8.8.8.8
[18:23] <magespawn> Maaz ping 8.8.8.8
[18:23] <Maaz> magespawn: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 16.199/16.367/16.744/0.257 ms
[18:24] <magespawn> Maaz how do I use nmap
[18:24] <Maaz> magespawn: Finds open network ports on a host or scans a subnet for active hosts. You can use it like this:
[18:24] <Maaz>   port scan <hostname>
[18:24] <Maaz>   net scan <network>/<prefix>
[18:24] <charl> ah you can find his ip like that
[18:24] <Maaz> magespawn:  1:  mammon.mene.za.net                                    0.133ms pmtu 1500
[18:24] <Maaz>  1:  physical.omnia.za.net                                 0.499ms
[18:24] <Maaz>  1:  physical.omnia.za.net                                 0.460ms
[18:24] <Maaz>  2:  static.129.97.40.188.clients.your-server.de           1.274ms
[18:24] <Maaz>  3:  hos-tr1.juniper1.rz10.hetzner.de                      0.847ms
[18:24] <charl> i can't imagine that it would allow you to nmap stuff
[18:25] <charl> ah it doesn't have rate limiting in its output
[18:25] <charl> that's pretty bad
[18:25] <charl> we can kill it now :P
[18:25] <magespawn> Maaz how doo i use tracepath
[18:25] <Maaz> magespawn: What?
[18:25] <Kilos> nonono charl 
[18:25] <charl> Maaz: how do i use http
[18:25] <Maaz> charl: Tests if an HTTP site is up and retrieves HTTP URLs. You can use it like this:
[18:25] <Maaz>   (get|head) <url>
[18:25] <Maaz>   is <domain> (up|down)
[18:25] <Maaz>   tell me when <domain|url> is up
[18:25] <Kilos> dont kill our bot man
[18:26] <charl> Kilos: it's buggy
[18:26] <charl> Maaz: http google.com
[18:26] <Maaz> charl: What?
[18:26] <magespawn> Maaz how do i use tracepath
[18:26] <Maaz> magespawn: Traces the path to the given host. You can use it like this:
[18:26] <Maaz>   tracepath <host>
[18:26] <charl> Maaz: http get google.com
[18:26] <Maaz> charl: What?
[18:26] <Kilos> then speak to tumbleweed dont kill the bot
[18:26] <charl> Maaz: get google.com
[18:26] <Maaz> charl: 302 Found to http://www.google.de/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=Vb1bVNj8DMaH8Qf764CYAw, which gets a 200 OK "Google"
[18:26] <magespawn> Maaz is gandcnet.co.za up
[18:26] <charl> ah it's hosted in germany
[18:27] <magespawn> Maaz is www.gandcnet.co.za up
[18:27] <charl> Maaz: get www.gandcnet.co.za
[18:27] <Maaz> charl: 206 Partial Content ":: MWEB Business - Achieve the extraordinary ::"
[18:27] <magespawn> Maaz is http://www.gandcnet.co.za up
[18:28] <charl> Kilos: it's vulnerable, we're not going to kill it :P maaz is our friend (and our coffee butler
[18:28] <magespawn> charl why get?
[18:28] <charl> dunno that's what it said
[18:28] <charl> Maaz: how do i use http
[18:28] <Maaz> charl: Tests if an HTTP site is up and retrieves HTTP URLs. You can use it like this:
[18:28] <Maaz>   (get|head) <url>
[18:28] <Maaz>   is <domain> (up|down)
[18:28] <Maaz>   tell me when <domain|url> is up
[18:28] <charl> i used the first one
[18:29] <charl> seems like the second one is broken
[18:29] <charl> Maaz: tell me when google.com is up
[18:29] <Maaz> charl: http://google.com/ is up right now
[18:29] <charl> Maaz: is google.com up
[18:29] <Maaz> charl: Yes, http://www.google.de/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D75bVNa9GMWH8QeL4oDICg is up
[18:29] <charl> weird !!
[18:30] <charl> Maaz: is www.gandcnet.co.za up
[18:30] <Maaz> charl: Yes, http://www.gandcnet.co.za/ is up
[18:30] <charl> oh now i see, you didn't have a : after maaz's name
[18:30] <charl> magespawn: ^^
[18:30] <magespawn> ahh right
[18:30] <magespawn> Maaz: is gandcnet.co.za up
[18:30] <Maaz> magespawn: Yes, http://gandcnet.co.za/ is up
[18:31] <Kilos> hi jaysen 
[18:31] <charl> ah there we go!
[18:31] <charl> hi jaysen 
[18:31] <jaysen> hi Kilos
[18:31] <magespawn> Maaz: is gandcnet.com up
[18:31] <Maaz> magespawn: No, http://gandcnet.com/ is down (Not Found)
[18:31] <jaysen> hey Charl
[18:31] <magespawn> Maaz: is www.gandcnet.com up
[18:31] <Maaz> magespawn: Yes, http://www.gandcnet.com/ is up
[18:31] <magespawn> i thought i had the redirect going for both
[18:32] <magespawn> Maaz: is www.gandcnet.co.za up
[18:32] <Maaz> magespawn: Yes, http://www.gandcnet.co.za/ is up
[18:32] <magespawn> ahh something to sort out then
[18:32] <Kilos> charl, Maaz is an old bot,hasnt been upgraded for years
[18:32] <Kilos> go to my channel and see if spotty or QA still have same bug
[18:33] <charl> probably... not important though
[18:33] <charl> not enough people use it to make it important
[18:33] <charl> only us and we're trustworthy right :P
[18:34] <charl> riiiight :P
[18:34] <Kilos> ya supposed to be
[18:34] <charl> :D
[18:34] <charl> it's a pretty old problem with irc bots and clients in general
[18:34] <Kilos> if you do bad stuffs we kick/ban you
[18:34] <charl> most clients implemented rate limiting to stop from flooding the server and getting disconnected/killed
[18:35] <charl> like irssi you can paste huge texts without having a problem because the client will automatically limit you
[18:35] <Joe_knock> Evening gentlemen.
[18:35] <charl> hi Joe_knock 
[18:35] <Kilos> hi Joe_knock 
[18:35] <charl> hi gremble 
[18:35] <Joe_knock> How are you all? charl , Kilos 
[18:36] <Kilos> good ty Joe_knock and you?
[18:36] <Joe_knock> I'm good.
[18:36] <magespawn> Hi gremble 
[18:36] <charl> good good Joe_knock 
[18:36] <magespawn> ho Joe_knock 
[18:36] <magespawn> or Hi
[18:36] <Kilos> lol
[18:37] <Kilos> hi ho hi ho
[18:37] <Kilos> and off to work we go
[18:37] <charl> lol
[18:38] <magespawn> getting into the christmas spirit, or is that the mining spirit
[18:38] <charl> ah you people down in the mines again...
[18:38] <charl> don't you ever go on strike ?
[18:38] <Kilos> whew i havent mined since getting the new drive
[18:38] <charl> i don't work in the mines i work in the rice fields
[18:38] <Kilos> now my 2+2 data bundle is going to make 2 months i think
[18:39] <Kilos> 2+1
[18:52] <magespawn> brb
[18:54] <magespawn> back
[19:14] <Joe_knock> TinuvaMac: Is Vox a WISP?
[19:15] <TinuvaMac> not that i know off
[19:15] <TinuvaMac> they run capped adsl accounts on their own ipc
[19:15] <TinuvaMac> i use the free vox gig4gig account
[19:15] <TinuvaMac> then add a bolt-on uncapped after hours to it for R59 a month
[19:16] <Joe_knock> that's cheap. IPC?
[19:16] <TinuvaMac> their own adsl network
[19:16] <TinuvaMac> their normal uncapped is IS accounts however
[19:17] <TinuvaMac> but yeah cheap
[19:17] <TinuvaMac> so useful
[19:21] <Joe_knock> Does anybody know how to search for different wifi networks without going through the network adding process? 12.04
[19:43] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:46] <magespawn> Joe_knock, any wifi networks in range that are broadcasting are found/listed automatically, aren't they?
[19:47] <Joe_knock> Weirdly, not for me. I know my laptop is old, but I picked up a lot more wifi networks than what i'm getting currently.
[19:47] <Joe_knock> *picked up a more wifi on another machine 
[19:49] <magespawn> my machine is old too, but still works for me
[19:49] <Joe_knock> how old is yours?
[19:52] <magespawn> not sure but it is 1.7 chip 
[19:52] <Joe_knock> Does it run on 1 or 2 GB RAM?
[19:52] <magespawn> originally install with xp prof
[19:54] <Joe_knock> Must be 1 GB RAM 
[19:55] <magespawn> 1017704 kB
[19:58] <Joe_knock> Yep, that is 1017.70 MB of RAM.
[19:59] <magespawn> two 512 sodimm chips
[20:06] <magespawn> anyway i am off to bed, good night all