[00:25] <lucas92> anyone is here^
[00:25] <lucas92> my screen tears after my laptop get to sleep
[00:25] <lucas92> anyone knows the fix?
[01:51] <blazingshambles> anyone here know anything about compiz? like how to make it skip decoration whisker menu?
[01:53] <james0r> blazingshambles, you're getting decorations on the whisker menu?
[01:56] <blazingshambles> no, there is a gap between the menu and panel, and disablng the window decorations plugin is the only way i've found to fix it. can't go wothout decorations, obviously, so it seems excluding the whisker window from compiz altogether should fix it.
[01:57] <blazingshambles> but can't figure out how to make compiz just forget about a window.
[01:59] <james0r> blazingshambles, i'm using kwin right now but with compiz it doesn't show decorations or a space there, it does show the whisker menu in the taskbar though which isn't ideal
[02:00] <james0r> blazingshambles, i would imagine you should look at filtering out what windows you want decorated which is probably done through the 'Windows Decoration' properties of your compiz settings manager.
[02:00] <james0r> there is a field for 'Decoration Windows' and mine is set to 'any'
[02:01] <blazingshambles> with the decorations plugin disabled, my menu is exactly where it should be, with the plugin theres about a 15 pixel gap
[02:01] <james0r> blazingshambles, what is your 'Decoration Windows' property set to? 'any"?
[02:02] <blazingshambles> mine says any at the moment because none of the other combinations i've tried have wroked, so i replaced the default for now.
[02:03] <blazingshambles> i know the window class, title, all that. i asked in the compiz channel, they told me what to do, it didn't work.
[02:03] <james0r> blazingshambles, how are you starting compiz? in your xfce session or with autostart?
[02:03] <blazingshambles> xfce session, replaced xfwm
[02:04] <james0r> blazingshambles, have you tried leaving that as xfwm and using 'compiz --replace' on autostart?
[02:05] <blazingshambles> i suppose i should reinstall xfwm for that, or does it matter?
[02:06] <blazingshambles> doesn't hurt to install it. i have to log out.
[02:06] <james0r> you removed xfwm4?
[02:07] <blazingshambles> yes, it's caused no problems i can see. xfce is pretty modula compared to the goliath desktops
[02:08] <blazingshambles> doesn't even have a display manager of screen locker of it's own.
[02:08] <blazingshambles> or
[02:08] <james0r> yeah, unless your pressed for space i would just leave it while you iron out kinks so you can bounce back and forth, that's what i do anyway
[02:08] <blazingshambles> alright wish me luck.
[02:08] <james0r> GL
[02:53] <ljfs> just updated to 14.04, and now I can't disable the lock screen. When my monitor goes to sleep, I think it's the lightdm lock screen kicks in
[02:54] <ljfs> and when I unlock my mouse cursor is invisible
[02:55] <Unit193> There should be light-locker settings in the settings manager.
[02:57] <ljfs> I have "Automatically lock the session" set to "never"
[02:57] <ljfs> in light-locker-settings
[02:58] <james0r> ljfs, is your system going in to suspend?
[02:58] <ljfs> no, it's just screen-blanking
[02:59] <ljfs> I guess maybe I need to disable light-locker
[02:59] <ljfs> that would make sense
[02:59] <james0r> yeah if you don't want your screen locked. definitely
[03:00] <ljfs> ok, I assumed that 'enable light-locker' was just to enable the screensaver, but I guess those are separate
[03:02] <ChrisD24> I was just looking that up. Yea, no screensaver with lightlocker. I had to disable it on mine - when I shut my laptop lid, I couldn't wake up.
[03:03] <Unit193> light-locker isn't a screensaver, xscreensaver is.  They slightly overlap, so if you have both you should purge one.
[03:12] <Kekai> My PC has been freezing up. I run Xuuntu 14.04 LTS on a Lenovo ideapad S10 netbook.
[03:12] <Kekai> I did a fresh install and tonight it started freezing up again
[03:13] <Kekai> I have no idea what to do.
[03:24] <Kekai> I thin my prolem lies within an app/program I intalled from my old installation
[03:25] <Kekai> but I ony installed 5 and got rid 6
[03:26] <ljfs> I would look through the logs when the thing locks up
[03:26] <ljfs> dmesg
[03:27] <ljfs>  /var/log/kern.log /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.*
[03:28] <ljfs> do you have to force shutdown when it freezes?
[03:29] <Kekai> no
[03:30] <Kekai> I always used palemoon, skype, konversation, spotify, and google chrome
[03:30] <Kekai> not all at once
[03:31] <Kekai> those were the apps I installed
[03:31] <Kekai> but it started when I installed Banshee media player
[03:31] <Kekai> well a bit after
[03:32] <Kekai> When I purged Banshee it had a large list of libs it needed to remove afterwards
[03:32] <ljfs> what do you mean it freezes? can you go to another virtual terminal when it freezes? (ctrl+alt+F4)
[03:32] <Kekai> could any of those caused the slow down
[03:32] <Kekai> the whole system locks up. Even my time is frozen
[03:32] <ljfs> how long does it last?
[03:33] <Kekai> aout 15 seconds to 30
[03:33] <ljfs> how frequent is it?
[03:33] <Kekai> but I purged banshee and its acting faster now
[03:33] <Kekai> everytime I used pale moon and IRC
[03:34] <Kekai> My guess would have to be one of those libs that was removed caused the slowdown
[03:35] <Kekai> I purged Banshee an hour ago, and it gave me a long list of libs it didn't need
[03:35] <Kekai> It started speeding up after they were removed
[03:36] <Kekai> Does the daemon preload help at all?
[03:37] <Kekai> I hear it supposed to speed up the PC by storing frequent applications in memory for faster loading times.
[03:42] <ljfs> it sounds like you have a specific misbehaving daemon
[03:42] <ljfs> I would want to identify it before doing anything else
[03:43] <ljfs> if you can't run run top or the system monitor during the event, I'd want some way to log it
[03:47] <Kekai> i have no idea its not freezing now
[03:47] <Kekai> it speeded up a bit since the purge of Bashee media and those liraries
[03:48] <ljfs> filenumber=0; mkdir -p /tmp/cpu-log && cd /tmp/cpu-log && while true; do sleep 5s && let 'filenumber=(filenumber+1)%120' ; echo "Writing to $filenumber" ; date && ps -eo pcpu,pmem,pid,args | sort -n | tail -n 20 > /tmp/cpu-log/$filenumber.cpu.log ; done
[03:48] <ljfs> you could run that oneliner in a terminal
[03:48] <ljfs> every 5 seconds it logs the top 20 processes by CPU usage
[03:49] <ljfs> it will store the past 10 minutes of data, so you just need to remember to kill it by hitting ctrl+c after you get a freeze
[03:49] <ljfs> then you could look and see if anything was using a bunch of CPU
[03:53] <Kekai> thanks anyways it seems the prolem cleared up
[03:54] <Kekai> it is a lot faster now without those libraries eating up my ram even when anshee was closed
[03:54] <Kekai> now I need a lightweight media player
[03:54] <Kekai> I tried nightingale, but crashed alot. Banshee eat up ram
[03:56] <ljfs> I use Clementine
[03:57] <ljfs> can't say it's particularly low-ram
[03:57] <ljfs> though it probably mostly depends on the size of your library.
[03:57] <Unit193> It's Qt, forked from Amarok.  gmusicbrowser is default, but there's others too.
[03:58] <holstein> ive always used vlc..
[03:59] <ljfs> clementine is actually pretty much a rewrite that's designed to function more or less like Amarok 1.4
[03:59] <ljfs> if I want really lightweight I use mplayer, but it's more like VLC in that it doesn't have any library management
[03:59] <Unit193> holstein: Though he said 'player', he seems to want a manager. :P
[04:00] <holstein> yeah.. thats true.. and i dont know about light managers
[04:00] <Unit193> There's 'aqualung', but that's pretty crappy and not in the repos.  What version of nightingale did you use, Kekai?
[04:00] <holstein> some may assume these days that a media player does that..
[04:01] <holstein> i remember really wanting to like aqualung..
[04:01] <ljfs> I think looking for a manager that's lightweight on memory is tilting at windmills... the database is just going to be big and I'm not sure there's much way around it
[04:02] <Kekai> I used the nightinggale nightly repo
[04:02] <holstein> maybe something like ampache.. but, that seems overkill
[04:02] <Kekai> there is a dailyuild repo
[04:02] <holstein> is there a "stable" ?
[04:02] <Unit193> Ah, yeah.  nightly worked for me, but I don't use it much.
[04:02] <Kekai> the nightly version was supposed to be stable
[04:02] <Kekai> i don't want a manager
[04:03] <Kekai> I want a player
[04:03] <holstein> try just a player then
[04:03] <ljfs> totem I think is default and it works fine
[04:03] <Kekai> someone recomended deadbeef and exaile in another channel
[04:04] <holstein> there are plenty in the repos
[04:04] <ljfs> I've always liked VLC, just straight players are all fine to me
[04:04] <ljfs> not sure there's much to differentiate
[04:35] <Kekai> Is Lightlocker safe to use now?
[04:35] <holstein> safe?
[04:35] <holstein> !info light-locker
[04:35] <Kekai> I know in the begining it caused me a glitch to where it would lock the screen but I would forever get a blank screen
[04:36] <holstein> Kekai: if you have a special hardware case, where your hardware doesnt support linux well, you may always have compromises you'll need to personally address
[04:36] <holstein> !info xtrlock
[04:36] <holstein> ^ thats what i use..
[04:38] <Kekai> !info xscreensaver
[04:39] <cfhowlett> lightdm and xscreensaver can conflict.  choose one or the other.
[04:39] <Kekai> So is there a way to remove lightlocker from xubuntu?
[04:40] <holstein> i would try a package manager, and see what is offered to be removed
[04:41] <Unit193> cfhowlett: lightdm and xscreensaver?  Not really, no.  Perhaps you are thinking light-locker and xscreensaver?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> Unit193, probably.  thanks.  in fact, I think that'
[04:42] <cfhowlett> that's spot on.
[10:32] <vak> hi all
[10:33] <vak> I've switched from xubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-desktop (compiz). However some traces of xubuntu still seem to be here. How to find the remaining packages? neither "dpkg -l |grep fce" nor "dpkg -l |grep xubuntu" can reveal any installed Xubuntu packages. I am puzzled...
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !pureubuuntu
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu
[10:47] <vak> cfhowlett: this is for ubuntu 12 :(  I'm on Ubuntu 14. Will my Ubuntu work fine and complete if I remove e.g. gnome-system-tools gnome-time-admin?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> vak, *should* be OK
[10:49] <vak> cfhowlett: ok... thank you. checking the remaining part of this long list of packages to be removed...
[10:52] <cfhowlett> FYI: after removal is complete, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop to ensure you've got the complete xubunut base system
[10:53] <cfhowlett> vak wait you DON'T want xubuntu, so sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:17] <hydruid> Any tips for getting gnome applets to work in xfce?
[13:20] <ObrienDave> crosspost ;P
[13:50] <Merritt> Xubuntu 14.04 running Synergy as a client, experiencing extreme connection lag. Internet connection is good at 26ms ping, 0% packet loss.. 75% wifi signal. Not sure why I am getting so much input lag here.
[13:51] <xGrind> Merritt, switch MTU to 1450
[13:54] <Merritt> xGrind: Gave it a shot, no improvement
[14:16] <xubuntu71w> hello there
[14:17] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[14:18] <xubuntu71w> thank you, Dave! I'm looking forward learning more abou Xubuntu, how can I proceed? I have some doubts that I couldn't solve through simple researching on web
[14:20] <elfy> !ask | xubuntu71w
[14:20] <ObrienDave> http://docs.xubuntu.org/
[14:21] <ObrienDave> and you're in about the best place to ask and learn
[14:21] <xubuntu71w> thank you! I'd like to know how to disable passphrase everytime I turn on the computer, how to do so?
[14:22] <ObrienDave> settings, users and groups, password, change, tick "don't ask for password on logon
[14:23] <GridCube> go to the setting manager, find the user settings, check don't ask for password
[14:27] <xubuntu71w> Thank yoou ObrienDave and GridCube, I'm gonna check if it did work
[14:42] <MrZee> hey guys, I was here a few minutes ago, I'd asked how to disable passphrase and then tested it by rebooting the system, it's failed though
[14:43] <MrZee> it's still asking for the passphrase, though I'm not being able to log in my account anymore
[14:43] <GridCube> MrZee: then open a terminal and type sudo mousepad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[14:44] <MrZee> operation not permited
[14:44] <GridCube> did you used sudo?
[14:44] <MrZee> I'm logged in as a guest since I can't log in my account anymore
[14:44] <MrZee> yes, I did type sudo
[14:45] <GridCube> ... and you cant use sudo?
[14:45] <Merritt> guest can't use sudo I assume O_o
[14:45] <MrZee> that's right
[14:45] <GridCube> yes, yes they can
[14:45] <Merritt> Reaaally? ..what bad policy..
[14:46] <GridCube> MrZee: what is your problem, why cant you log in on your user?
[14:46] <GridCube> Merritt: no, because you need to know the password for sudo
[14:46] <Merritt> GridCube: Ah, okay.
[14:46] <GridCube> theres no difference from using it from your standard usar than guest
[14:46] <Merritt> I was imagining the live USB user, where sudo asks for no password xD
[14:46] <MrZee> I've no idea, since I disabled log in password, it still does ask for the passphrase and the login password, but it's not accepting my password
[14:47] <GridCube> MrZee: from the terminal do sudo thunar
[14:47] <GridCube> and try to go to your standard user directory
[14:48] <GridCube> can you do that?
[14:48] <MrZee> wait a moment guys, I'll be back after lunch, my wife is complaining I'm not helping
[14:48] <GridCube> k
[16:25] <ChrisD24> Anyone know why some websites, like my bank (bill pay) section with lots of text boxes and drop downs are all squished?
[16:39] <holstein> ChrisD24: rendering
[16:39] <holstein> ChrisD24: you can try asking them (the site creators) what you are intended to use the product (online banking) with.. but, it will likely *not* be firefox on linux..
[16:40] <holstein> i suggest just trying the current chrome browser.. not chromium, but the commercial google chrome browser
[16:43] <ChrisD24> Well I could but I can't get icedtea to work
[16:44] <holstein> ChrisD24: they definitely dont promise you support for the icedtea plugin
[16:44] <holstein> ChrisD24: you'll want to use actual java in an actual browser
[16:44] <holstein> !java
[16:45] <holstein> ChrisD24: im not saying these technologies are "better" in any way.. or necessary. its a matter of support.. the product is designed to work with those technologies
[16:45] <holstein> ChrisD24: i suggest installing a browser that you *dont* use, such as the *actual* google chrome browser.. set that up to use java with your bank, and use it *only* for banking
[16:45] <holstein> running java in the web browser like that can be a serious security risk
[16:46] <ChrisD24> Ok - and Java isn't for banking - but I do need it for eBay printing with my Zebra. I'll try but I think I do have the JRE but not the JDK
[16:47] <holstein> ChrisD24: java isnt for *anything* but running java
[16:47] <holstein> ChrisD24: a bank can implement java, that you will need to comply with to use the technology they provide.. could be a school, or *anything*.. not just a bank
[16:47] <ChrisD24> Right - I know - but since it wouldn't work with eBay Printing - I didn't like switching back and forth to firefox just to print
[16:48] <ChrisD24> My bank works fine - no java
[16:48] <ChrisD24> Only reason I mentioned my bank was because the text boxes are all squised - and it does that in a few other sights where there are text boxes close together
[16:49] <holstein> ChrisD24: rendering.. try a different browser
[16:49] <holstein> ChrisD24: let the creators of the site know you are having issue with the rendering of the products they create
[16:50] <ChrisD24> OK
[16:50] <ChrisD24> Well I'll try Chrome again - i research i never found a good anyswer for java in chrome
[16:50] <ChrisD24> But I'll try.
[16:50] <ChrisD24> Thanks
[16:51] <holstein> ChrisD24: you enable java in chrome.. its disabled due to the fact that java in *any* browser like that is a security risk, and should be avoided or used sparingly and per use
[16:52] <holstein> https://java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.xml by visiting chrome://plugins/ in the browser
[16:52] <ChrisD24> Ok let me get Chrome (not chronium) and try that
[16:53] <ChrisD24> Gonna tyr now and see what happens :)
[16:53] <holstein> https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
[17:03] <ChrisD24> Ok I did those commands and restarted the browser and clicked test and got "this plug-in is not supported"
[17:04] <holstein> ChrisD24: sure.. and it doesnt have to be
[17:04] <holstein> ChrisD24: they never promised you it would work with linux, and it may not be able to .. or it could be as simple as "faking" like you are using windows.. or a differnet browser
[17:05] <ChrisD24> That link says how to enable it on Chrome...?
[17:05] <ChrisD24> Maybe because I am using 64 bit?
[17:05] <holstein> ChrisD24: basically, if you read what is "on the tin", and follow those *exact* directions, things should work, and if not, you can get support from the providers and creators of the content.. if you want to deviate from what they suggest, you will need to expect compromises, and do workarounds.. or, *not* be able to use the content where it wont work
[17:06] <holstein> ChrisD24: you can try a live CD for 32bit, if you feel that is the case
[18:05] <chris_> hi i got one problem i want add new ftdi_sio device but in /sys/bus/ is no folder called usb-serial im on 14.10
[18:07] <holstein> chris_: can you "big-picture" what it is you are trying to do? maybe someone would have a suggestion about how to accomplish the larger task..
[18:08] <chris_> i created a udev rule for the device this was working in 13.04  with the folling line of code
[18:08] <chris_> ACTION==”add”, ATTRS{idVendor}==”0403″, ATTRS{idProduct}==”ac75″, RUN+=”/sbin/modprobe ftdi_sio” RUN+=”/bin/sh -c ‘echo 0403 ac75 > /sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/ftdi_sio/new_id’”
[18:09] <chris_> but in 14.10 there is no folder /sys/bus/usb-serial so there no destination for this rule
[18:09] <chris_> for the echo command
[18:09] <chris_> hope can understand im not a nativ speaker
[18:11] <chris_> is the pictuare big enough==
[18:11] <chris_> ??
[18:12] <holstein> chris_: what device are you adding?
[18:12] <chris_> a picnduino
[18:13] <holstein> chris_: pcduino?
[18:13] <chris_> befor kernel 3.12 it runs with modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=0x0403 product=0xac75
[18:14] <chris_> no picnduino from kickstarter
[18:14] <holstein> chris_: i would ask the creators of the device how to use it.. i see no documentation online when i search
[18:15] <serranellus> Hi everybody! Is there a geek, who's nerd enough to know how to solve the following problem? Is it possible to configure the brightness control buttons of a notebook running Xubuntu 14 to work? I suppose it tries to affect the brightness value of /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0, but on my hardware it should instead address the command to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight...
[18:15] <holstein> serranellus: 14.04? what do you mean by "to work"? you mean, the keys dont work now?
[18:16] <chris_> ic got the documentation for the device
[18:16] <holstein> serranellus: i would start here.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys and also try proprietary graphics drivers if available..
[18:17] <chris_> befor kernel 3.12 create  /etc/udev/rules.d/99-usb_ftdi.rules
[18:17] <serranellus> hi and thanks holstein. The keys works in the sense that a notification does appear, showing the brightness level changing, but in the real world it does not change.
[18:17] <chris_> with this input
[18:17] <chris_> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="0403", ATTR{idProduct}=="ac75", RUN+="/sbin/modprobe ftdi_sio product=0xac75 vendor=0x0403"
[18:18] <holstein> serranellus: it can be challenging, since you are not promised linux support for the hardware from the creators of it.. is there a proprietary graphics driver for the hardware?
[18:18] <holstein> chris_: if the creators *only* support kernel 3.12, you will need to ask them for more current kernel support.. or use a kernel that they support
[18:19] <serranellus> holstein: I am reading your link
[18:20] <serranellus> 'ts a good reading effectively
[18:20] <chris_> i only have to tell the system to load ftdi_sio driver if i plug in a device with vendor 0403 and product ac75 and in xubuntu 14.10 i cant find the folder /sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/fdti_sio/
[18:21] <holstein> chris_: you can try creating the directory.. or whatever the manufacturer specifically suggests.. xubuntu/ubuntu is not preventing that device from working
[18:22] <chris_> ok i try may be it will run but what is the stadard way to add usb-serial devices with special vendor or product id
[18:23] <serranellus> holstein: I am sure that the command "echo <value> /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" does properly work, and that "echo <value> /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" does not.
[18:24] <holstein> serranellus: ok.. is there any proprietary drivers avialable for your hardware? has this *ever* worked in linux?
[18:25] <serranellus> Following the documentation I wrote a rule in rc.local to set a medium value, but it would now be nice to set the physical buttons to work too!
[18:25] <chris_> ist the standart ftdi_sio driver
[18:25] <chris_> the system has only to link driver and device
[18:25] <holstein> serranellus: sure, and you should let the creator of the hardware know you would like that to work with linux.. but, unfortunately, you'll need to implement this on your own
[18:25] <serranellus> holstein: No. No proprietary drivers available...ù
[18:26] <serranellus> holstein: I shall study the situation and search for a solution. Thank you for your kind indications!
[18:27] <serranellus> Goodbye
[18:27] <holstein> serranellus: good luck.. also, try #ubuntu and the main mailing lists
[18:27] <serranellus> of course! Bye
[18:28] <MrZee> Hello folks, I had to leave earlier and now I'm back to try recovering my account, I'm logged as a guest. Just remembering, previously I'd tried to remove the passphrase screen and unchecked the option "password asked on login", but now my password doesn't work and I still have the passphrase screen
[18:30] <holstein> MrZee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword but, dont assume you have lost the password.. try logging in in TTY..
[18:30] <holstein> !tty
[18:30] <holstein> if you can login in tty, then, its not the password that is the issue.. its likely a config in the users /home
[18:36] <MrZee> well... I'm able to login
[18:38] <MrZee> holstein, how can I config it? I'm totally new in Xubuntu and any other Linux distro
[18:44] <GridCube> MrZee: so you can enter to the guest session right
[18:44] <MrZee> GridCube: yes, correct
[18:44] <GridCube> on a terminal run "sudo thunar" go to your default home directory, press ctrl-h and find and delete the files named .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[18:45] <hydruid> I enabled gnome applets in XFCE but how do I right click on them?
[18:45] <GridCube> that should allow you to relog using your default user and not the guest
[18:47] <GridCube> once thats done open a terminal and type "sudo mousepad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" locate the lines that say "autologin-user=" and "autologin-user-timeout=" they should say your username and 0, if they are not present add them
[18:47] <GridCube> that will make your sessions to autologin to your desktop
[18:47] <MrZee> which terminal should I use, the "ctrl+alt+F1" or the terminal emulato?
[18:47] <MrZee> *emulator
[18:48] <GridCube> emulator MrZee
[18:48] <GridCube> the programs im tellin gyou to use are gui
[18:49] <MrZee> okey, through the terminal emulator, it says "Operation not permitted"
[18:49] <GridCube> what operation?
[18:49] <GridCube> and why?
[18:50] <GridCube> thats the only thing it says?
[18:50] <MrZee> "sudo thunar"
[18:50] <GridCube> !pastebin
[18:50] <MrZee> GridCube: ita says "sudo: unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted"
[18:50] <GridCube> what
[18:50] <GridCube> :|
[18:51] <GridCube> MrZee: try sudo su
[18:51] <GridCube> but if sudo fails
[18:51] <GridCube> i don't know how to help you
[18:51] <MrZee> GridCube: dailed again
[18:51] <MrZee> *failed
[18:52] <MrZee> I believe that Xubuntu blocks guest access to any advanced command
[18:52] <GridCube> no
[18:53] <elfy> I believe it does http://askubuntu.com/questions/362528/sudo-not-available-in-guest-login
[18:53] <GridCube> since when?
[18:54] <elfy> at least then I guess - no idea really :)
[18:54] <GridCube> :/ this will change the way i usually give support
[18:55] <MrZee> GridCube: though the error retrieved by the terminal available in "ctrl+alt+F1" is "Thunar: cannot open display"
[18:55] <GridCube> MrZee: ofcourse not, its a graphical application
[18:55] <MrZee> oh... understood, sorry my ignorance
[18:56] <elfy> MrZee: in this tty1 - are you able to login as you?
[18:56] <GridCube> from the tty, if you are logged as your default user then run rm .ICEauthority
[18:56] <GridCube> and rm .Xauthority
[18:56] <MrZee> elfy: yes, I am
[18:56] <GridCube> i dont like to tell people to use rm
[18:56] <GridCube> is dangerous
[18:57] <elfy> tb completion helps
[18:57] <elfy> tab
[18:57] <MrZee> GridCube: hehehe, yes, it's dangerous to give common users access to core functions
[18:58] <GridCube> MrZee: if you delete both those files you should be able to log in
[18:58] <elfy> #
[18:58] <elfy> I would perhaps edit the login file to remove autologin with nano
[18:58] <GridCube> once he can log in to his default user he should be able to sudo
[18:59] <GridCube> also tehre is no gksu anymore so its sudo for all things
[18:59] <elfy> not for thunar and mousepad it isn't - as we seed pkexec mousepad and thunar policy files
[19:00] <elfy> so pkexec mousepad /foo/bar
[19:00] <MrZee> GridCube and elfy: thank you guys, I'll give a try with the "rm" stuff
[19:00] <GridCube> good to know
[19:01] <GridCube> wait... wouldnt pkexec work from guest?
[19:01] <MrZee> GridCube: okey, let me see
[19:02] <MrZee> pkexec works out fine
[19:04] <GridCube> excellent
[19:04] <MrZee> GridCube: what option shall I choose?
[19:04] <GridCube> ¿
[19:04] <GridCube> option?
[19:05] <MrZee> --version , disable internal agent, user username
[19:06] <MrZee> instead of comas, it's a "|"
[19:06] <GridCube> i don't follow
[19:07] <MrZee> what's the whole command line? I've just typed "pkexec", and it displays this message --version |        --help |        --disable-internal-agent |        [--user username] PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]
[19:08] <GridCube> MrZee: oh, pkexec thunar
[19:08] <GridCube> or pkexec --user yourdefaultusername thunar
[19:09] <MrZee> operation not permitted
[19:09] <GridCube> right, so no, sudo and pkexec seem to be blocked for guest
[19:09] <GridCube> this means you gotta go the tty route and type dangerous commands
[19:10] <MrZee> okey, I'll try those dangerous commands, how do I delete them?
[19:10] <GridCube> as told before using rm
[19:10] <MrZee> ok so it's done
[19:10] <MrZee> thank you!
[19:10] <GridCube> try relogging
[19:10] <MrZee> I'll give you feedback later
[19:11] <GridCube> if that works then you can do the rest
[19:11] <GridCube> now i gotta go
[19:23] <xubuntu52w> Hi I'm having problems with a multi boot install. I first had windows 7 along linux mint 17 and yesterday I installed xubuntu 14.04 using the option install along other operative OSs but now I think the windows install got screwed and is no longer booteable. Is there any way to recover it?
[20:50] <Airbander> Hi guys
[20:50] <Airbander> how do i know if some ports open on my system or not ?
[20:50] <Airbander> from terminal
[20:52] <koegs> "sudo netstat -tulpen"
[21:01] <Airbander> thanks Koegs
[21:03] <Airbander> any other command plz
[21:03] <Airbander> how do i know tulpen as option
[21:03] <Airbander> ?
[21:26] <bekks> Whats wrong with "netstat -tulpen"?
[21:37] <MrZee> hey there elfy!
[21:38] <MrZee> elfy: thank you very much for the support you've given me previously, as I promissed you and GridCube, the feedback is positive, I was able to solve the problem with your tips
[21:39] <elfy> MrZee: excellent - glad we could help, though it was gridcube not me :)
[21:41] <MrZee> elfy: yup, GridCube too! I would like to thank him too, but it seems he disconnected
[21:41] <elfy> yep
[21:42] <MrZee> anyway, see ya!
[21:42] <elfy> bye