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sgclarkbah Unable to open /usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax/bash.xml01:55
valorieopens for me02:00
valoriedid you need the contents?02:01
valorieotherwise, /me runs off for a few hours02:01
sgclarknah, thanks tho :)02:02
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manchicken_... wtf... cannot compile perl and get tests to pass...04:43
MirvRiddell: I'm somewhat hoping that I could release Qt 5.3.2 on Monday to vivid. do you want to test something? (and is there much to test in vivid regarding Plasma 5 at the moment)06:49
MirvI've frameworkintegration and plasma-framework installed from the rebuilds.06:49
Mirvapt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-002 for testing06:50
* Mirv successfully launches khelpcenter, systemsettings5, and manages to replace unity 7 with kwin_x1107:00
lordievaderGood morning.09:13
RiddellMirv: sure, I can test all of plasma 509:32
MirvRiddell: thanks. AFAIK frameworkintegration and plasma-framework were the only packages in archives needing a rebuild (=depending on either qtbase-abi-5-3-0 or qtdeclarative-abi-5-3-0)09:38
RiddellMirv: where do I test it from?09:39
MirvRiddell: apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-002 && apt update && apt dist-upgrade09:39
MirvRiddell: is there yet a package in archive with which you'd get sort of plasma 5 desktop? I was only able to find those kwin/helpcenter/systemsettings5 etc bits.09:40
RiddellMirv: plasma-desktop but its still compiling i think09:54
RiddellMirv: you can try kubuntu-ppa/next utopic09:54
apacheloggerwgrant: why is it that some ppa builds are incredibly slow? e.g. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6542332 vs. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/653895709:56
wgrantapachelogger: Hm, I've seen that on a very occasional build the last few days. I wonder if one of the compute nodes is behaving sometimes. I'll investigate.10:00
wgrants/behaving/misbehaving/10:00
kubotuwgrant meant: "apachelogger: Hm, I've seen that on a very occasional build the last few days. I wonder if one of the compute nodes is misbehaving sometimes. I'll investigate."10:00
valoriekubotu: so literal you are10:01
apacheloggerwgrant: I can find some more examples if that helps10:01
wgrantapachelogger: That might be helpful.10:09
apacheloggerhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6543498 (slow) vs https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6539429 (fast)10:13
apacheloggerhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6543500 (slow) vs. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6539441 (fast)10:14
* apachelogger checks for something a bit older10:16
apacheloggerapparently there have been publisher runs that lasted some 2 hours ^^10:23
apacheloggerthis one might be one https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6517194 (slow) vs. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6520767 (fast)10:25
apacheloggerwgrant: it does appear to be a rather recent thing, that october 30 build is the earliest case of slowness I have found so far10:25
wgrantYeah, I've only noticed it this week.10:27
wgrantThanks for the datapoints.10:27
apacheloggerwgrant: I found an earlier outlier from October 24 https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6491781 (slow) vs https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6476977 (fast)10:47
apachelogger../../lib/documentview/videoviewadapter.cpp:25:30: fatal error: Phonon/AudioOutput: No such file or directory10:54
apachelogger #include <Phonon/AudioOutput>10:54
apachelogger                              ^10:54
apacheloggershadeslayer, Riddell, sgclark: can someone pretty plz repair phonon -.-10:54
Riddellapachelogger: do you know why it can't find it?10:59
Riddellhttp://tech-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/11/01/1538227/kubuntu-1504-will-be-based-on-kde5  yay we made slashdot11:00
apacheloggerbecause sune patches my software without asking first11:00
apacheloggerso he screwed up and now phonon in debian and vivid is borked11:00
Riddellah11:01
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_Groo_is telepathy 0.9 supposed to have a contact list widget for plasma 5?12:00
Riddellnope12:01
_Groo_Riddell: ah ok, carry on then :D12:01
Riddellbut there is something that shows in my panel when someone messages me12:01
soeehey12:01
_Groo_yes, because he uses the default notifications12:02
_Groo_ok, its working fine then :)12:02
soee_Groo_: can you test one thing with telepathy ?12:02
_Groo_soee: sure, what do you want me to test? i can fork bomb apachelogger with cute fluffy messages12:03
_Groo_like 10 thousand of them per sec12:03
RiddellI hope we'll have a real kf5 telepathy before 15.04 is out12:04
_Groo_Riddell: i saw a branch last week with the initial commits for kf512:05
_Groo_so yeah, should be ready by 15.0412:05
_Groo_soee: what do you want me to test?12:06
Riddellit's our favourite polo shirt model... kbroulik!12:06
kbroulikRiddell: I didnt forget about it :)12:07
soee_Groo_: resize kde-telepathy window to smaller width , when you wont see the settings icon (onyl the Right arrow) and check if you can access this settings than anyhow 12:17
_Groo_if by accessing it, you mean the > arrow, its greyed out,i believe its just a marker to show theres more stuff on the right, 12:18
_Groo_so no, once you diminish the window, the settings are hidden and cant be accessed12:18
_Groo_but the arrow is there to warn theres more stuff on theright12:19
soee_Groo_: but give it even smaller width than wehn you press arrow, some options shows up12:19
soeeall but not settings ;)12:20
Antisoundhi folkz!12:28
AntisoundRiddell: will there be a 15.04 image with plasma5 this week?12:29
_Groo_soee: ahah you are correct :)12:35
soee_Groo_: so i wonder if this should be concidered as a bug12:43
soeePlasma5 is already in Vivid by default ?12:43
Antisoundsoee: sure,... it's going to be 12:56
Antisoundsoee: but the daily images aren't change yet12:56
OdurAnybody know why dch -i increments to UNRELEASED instead of utopic?13:51
_Groo_soee_: well its either a bug or a weird "feature"13:51
RiddellOdur: its the new behavious for the last year or so13:56
Riddellyou can use dch -r I think to set it to released13:56
yofel-r right, there's also a setting to revert to the old behavior if you really want to13:57
soee_Riddell: the KF5 5.4.0 will be backported to 14.10 ?13:57
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yofel(different people using different behavior is a bad idea though)13:57
Riddellsoee: shrug, probably if there's a need13:57
Riddellbut for now I should upload it to vivid13:57
OdurRiddell: Yeah, I just read that too :). Thanks anyway13:57
RiddellOdur: packaging anything interesting?13:59
soee_Groo_: this is it i think https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31659114:00
ubottuKDE bug 316591 in contactlist "Contact list does not show settings-button, if its to narrow" [Normal,Confirmed]14:00
OdurRiddell: Nope. Just a wether-widget for SMHI (Swedish meterology institute)14:00
OdurFor the first time in 6 years or so I upgraded my Kubuntu installation instead of doing a fresh install. Worked perfectly :)14:06
Riddellyay14:07
OdurWell, almost. Loading of firmware for my bluetooth don't work, but it's a minor problem. And there were one package that didn't get removed as it should. But that was fixed with manual removal14:10
BluesKajHi folks14:17
OdurThe bluetooth problem was easily solved. For some reason it searched for the .hcd file at another location and a different name. Just move and rename and all is good :)14:28
sgclarkmorning15:08
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Riddellhola sgclark 15:11
RiddellKF5 5.4 in vivid15:11
Riddelland I forgot extra-cmake-modules15:11
Riddellyou'd think I'd remember that by now15:11
sgclarklol15:11
sgclarkRiddell: I put 5.1.1 in next staging15:11
Riddelloh groovy15:12
Riddellmostly green too http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.1.1_vivid.html15:12
murthyCan any one confirm this after reproducing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/138984715:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 1389847 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity waits until the driver-manager finishes before proceeding to the partitioning screen" [Undecided,New]15:13
* Riddell only has free hardware that needs to scary drivers so doesn't have this issue15:15
murthyRiddell: Read the note at the end of the bug report15:17
sgclarkmy internet is only terrible in the sense that it cuts off all the time, when it is up it is speedy. So no I cannot reproduce :(15:17
murthywhat happens when there is no network connectivity when the package manager is downloading a package?15:19
murthydoes it wait or does it quit?15:19
murthysgclark: Is it possible to reduce the internet speed in a virtual box?15:20
sgclarkmurthy: good question, that i can test, give me a few15:21
murthyok15:21
sgclarkmurthy: hmm have never actually tried that15:21
murthyIf that is possible reduce the speed to the very least possible15:22
murthydoes the package manager check for a minimum internet speed before terminating  the download process?15:23
apacheloggerif a host cannot be resolved it aborts immediately, if the networkinterface goes down it would probably also abort immediately, if there is IO starvation it will abort after a timeout of presumably at least 10 seconds15:28
apacheloggerso you can put limit the speed to 1byte/s and it would still be good enough15:28
apacheloggerdo note that you can throttle the bandwith for apt itself, in case you don't want to limit the entire system... that way only the package downloads will be at a lower speed15:30
murthyapachelogger: can we limit the bandwidth in virtualbox?15:31
apacheloggerprobably15:32
apacheloggerapt doesn't really care where it is run :P15:33
murthyapachelogger: Is there a possibility the driver-manager or apt blocking the main ubiquity process?15:38
apacheloggeryes15:38
murthyok15:39
Riddelldantti: sorry apper being removed from the archive now that kde-workspace-dev is gone15:43
murthyJust asking this out of curiosity, I had seen some python code in the kubuntu installer component, why so instead of using C++ ?15:45
Riddellmurthy: python is easier than c++ to write, especially if you want your code to be either qt or gtk from 1 codebase15:46
apacheloggerone might disagree on all of those points15:47
apachelogger...15:47
murthyYa thats true, but isn't it one of the reason why we changed kpackagekit with muon?15:47
Riddellnope15:47
sgclarkfun.. ../../../phonon/platform_kde/kiomediastream.h:23:38: fatal error: Phonon/AbstractMediaStream: No such file or directory16:08
sgclarkapachelogger: ^16:09
Riddellsgclark: where's this?16:10
Riddellsgclark: I've been moving phonon headers today16:10
Riddellsgclark: have you got phonon 4:4.8.0-~4ubuntu2  ?16:11
sgclarkRiddell: next-staging16:12
_Groo_is the kio-extras triggered to build today?16:13
_Groo_in ci unstable16:13
Riddellshadeslayer: ./desktop/usr-share/layout.js16:15
Riddellshadeslayer: scripts/casper-bottom/25adduser:      chroot /root install -D -o $USERNAME -g $USERNAME /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/layout.js /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js16:16
shadeslayerok thx16:17
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apacheloggerwgrant: fwiw, today just about all builds seem incredibly slow, 90 sources that usually build in <6 hours have been for 16 hours now16:24
apacheloggerseems to be getting worse every day :S16:24
santa_hi16:44
santa_have you pushed your partial work on 5.4.0 to git? I mean the manpages addition to not-installed and such16:46
santa_+ the symbols update for plasma-framework16:46
sgclarkseems not16:56
sgclarkplasma-framework pushed as that was the one I worked on. 17:00
sgclarkRiddell: you did not apply your changes to 5.4.0 to git? :) I would have grab all the packages and create patches then push unless Riddell wants to push his changes17:02
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santa_thanks for taking care17:12
Riddellsgclark: what what?17:24
Riddellsanta_: yes it should be all in git17:24
Riddellkubuntu_vivid_archive branches17:24
sgclarkRiddell: nah it isn't, been looking17:25
sgclarkoh wait17:26
sgclarkwierd17:26
santa_I have been forking siductions packaging from kubuntu_vivid_archive17:27
sgclarkRiddell: this is odd, some are updated and others are not17:27
santa_thing is: for instance, your kross build doesn't complain about missing files (the manpage, which is compressed)17:27
santa_I guess because you updated the not-installed file17:28
santa_however my kross build complains about the missing file17:28
santa_compare http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.4.0_vivid.html17:28
santa_with http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_status/17:28
* santa_ checks git again...17:29
santa_nope, kross/kubuntu_vivid_archive doesn't have the updated not-installed file17:31
santa_there are other packages with the same problem wrt manpages17:31
santa_it's not an issue for me, but just saying in case you missed some git pushes17:32
santa_oh, wait. I found it17:34
sgclarkI am so confued17:34
santa_I need to do another round of builds later to check properly, apparently the only thing missing was the symbol removal17:35
santa_(already pushed)17:35
sgclarkright, that was my bad17:36
sgclarkok so we are good right?17:36
danttiRiddell: np, hopefuly I'll find some time in future for apper2 qml/qt5 based17:37
santa_sgclark: I think so, I will let you know if I find issues in the next kubuntu_vivid_archive build17:43
santa_(I tend to think I won't)17:44
sgclarkok17:44
Riddellsgclark: oh well I'll sort it out on monday I guess19:04
* Riddell off for the weekend19:04
sgclarkRiddell: I think we are good19:04
sgclarkRiddell: I am also going to take the weekend off!19:04
bukaisoee: ping19:27
bukaiRiddell: ping19:38
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valoriesgclark: nice weekend to be out and about!22:50
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