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[01:55] <sgclark> bah Unable to open /usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax/bash.xml
[02:00] <valorie> opens for me
[02:01] <valorie> did you need the contents?
[02:01] <valorie> otherwise, /me runs off for a few hours
[02:02] <sgclark> nah, thanks tho :)
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[04:43] <manchicken_> ... wtf... cannot compile perl and get tests to pass...
[06:49] <Mirv> Riddell: I'm somewhat hoping that I could release Qt 5.3.2 on Monday to vivid. do you want to test something? (and is there much to test in vivid regarding Plasma 5 at the moment)
[06:49] <Mirv> I've frameworkintegration and plasma-framework installed from the rebuilds.
[06:50] <Mirv> apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-002 for testing
[07:00]  * Mirv successfully launches khelpcenter, systemsettings5, and manages to replace unity 7 with kwin_x11
[09:13] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:32] <Riddell> Mirv: sure, I can test all of plasma 5
[09:38] <Mirv> Riddell: thanks. AFAIK frameworkintegration and plasma-framework were the only packages in archives needing a rebuild (=depending on either qtbase-abi-5-3-0 or qtdeclarative-abi-5-3-0)
[09:39] <Riddell> Mirv: where do I test it from?
[09:39] <Mirv> Riddell: apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-002 && apt update && apt dist-upgrade
[09:40] <Mirv> Riddell: is there yet a package in archive with which you'd get sort of plasma 5 desktop? I was only able to find those kwin/helpcenter/systemsettings5 etc bits.
[09:54] <Riddell> Mirv: plasma-desktop but its still compiling i think
[09:54] <Riddell> Mirv: you can try kubuntu-ppa/next utopic
[09:56] <apachelogger> wgrant: why is it that some ppa builds are incredibly slow? e.g. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6542332 vs. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6538957
[10:00] <wgrant> apachelogger: Hm, I've seen that on a very occasional build the last few days. I wonder if one of the compute nodes is behaving sometimes. I'll investigate.
[10:00] <wgrant> s/behaving/misbehaving/
[10:00] <kubotu> wgrant meant: "apachelogger: Hm, I've seen that on a very occasional build the last few days. I wonder if one of the compute nodes is misbehaving sometimes. I'll investigate."
[10:01] <valorie> kubotu: so literal you are
[10:01] <apachelogger> wgrant: I can find some more examples if that helps
[10:09] <wgrant> apachelogger: That might be helpful.
[10:13] <apachelogger> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6543498 (slow) vs https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6539429 (fast)
[10:14] <apachelogger> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6543500 (slow) vs. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6539441 (fast)
[10:16]  * apachelogger checks for something a bit older
[10:23] <apachelogger> apparently there have been publisher runs that lasted some 2 hours ^^
[10:25] <apachelogger> this one might be one https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6517194 (slow) vs. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6520767 (fast)
[10:25] <apachelogger> wgrant: it does appear to be a rather recent thing, that october 30 build is the earliest case of slowness I have found so far
[10:27] <wgrant> Yeah, I've only noticed it this week.
[10:27] <wgrant> Thanks for the datapoints.
[10:47] <apachelogger> wgrant: I found an earlier outlier from October 24 https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6491781 (slow) vs https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6476977 (fast)
[10:54] <apachelogger> ../../lib/documentview/videoviewadapter.cpp:25:30: fatal error: Phonon/AudioOutput: No such file or directory
[10:54] <apachelogger>  #include <Phonon/AudioOutput>
[10:54] <apachelogger>                               ^
[10:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, Riddell, sgclark: can someone pretty plz repair phonon -.-
[10:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: do you know why it can't find it?
[11:00] <Riddell> http://tech-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/11/01/1538227/kubuntu-1504-will-be-based-on-kde5  yay we made slashdot
[11:00] <apachelogger> because sune patches my software without asking first
[11:00] <apachelogger> so he screwed up and now phonon in debian and vivid is borked
[11:01] <Riddell> ah
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[12:00] <_Groo_> is telepathy 0.9 supposed to have a contact list widget for plasma 5?
[12:01] <Riddell> nope
[12:01] <_Groo_> Riddell: ah ok, carry on then :D
[12:01] <Riddell> but there is something that shows in my panel when someone messages me
[12:01] <soee> hey
[12:02] <_Groo_> yes, because he uses the default notifications
[12:02] <_Groo_> ok, its working fine then :)
[12:02] <soee> _Groo_: can you test one thing with telepathy ?
[12:03] <_Groo_> soee: sure, what do you want me to test? i can fork bomb apachelogger with cute fluffy messages
[12:03] <_Groo_> like 10 thousand of them per sec
[12:04] <Riddell> I hope we'll have a real kf5 telepathy before 15.04 is out
[12:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: i saw a branch last week with the initial commits for kf5
[12:05] <_Groo_> so yeah, should be ready by 15.04
[12:06] <_Groo_> soee: what do you want me to test?
[12:06] <Riddell> it's our favourite polo shirt model... kbroulik!
[12:07] <kbroulik> Riddell: I didnt forget about it :)
[12:17] <soee> _Groo_: resize kde-telepathy window to smaller width , when you wont see the settings icon (onyl the Right arrow) and check if you can access this settings than anyhow 
[12:18] <_Groo_> if by accessing it, you mean the > arrow, its greyed out,i believe its just a marker to show theres more stuff on the right, 
[12:18] <_Groo_> so no, once you diminish the window, the settings are hidden and cant be accessed
[12:19] <_Groo_> but the arrow is there to warn theres more stuff on theright
[12:19] <soee> _Groo_: but give it even smaller width than wehn you press arrow, some options shows up
[12:20] <soee> all but not settings ;)
[12:28] <Antisound> hi folkz!
[12:29] <Antisound> Riddell: will there be a 15.04 image with plasma5 this week?
[12:35] <_Groo_> soee: ahah you are correct :)
[12:43] <soee> _Groo_: so i wonder if this should be concidered as a bug
[12:43] <soee> Plasma5 is already in Vivid by default ?
[12:56] <Antisound> soee: sure,... it's going to be 
[12:56] <Antisound> soee: but the daily images aren't change yet
[13:51] <Odur> Anybody know why dch -i increments to UNRELEASED instead of utopic?
[13:51] <_Groo_> soee_: well its either a bug or a weird "feature"
[13:56] <Riddell> Odur: its the new behavious for the last year or so
[13:56] <Riddell> you can use dch -r I think to set it to released
[13:57] <yofel> -r right, there's also a setting to revert to the old behavior if you really want to
[13:57] <soee_> Riddell: the KF5 5.4.0 will be backported to 14.10 ?
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[13:57] <yofel> (different people using different behavior is a bad idea though)
[13:57] <Riddell> soee: shrug, probably if there's a need
[13:57] <Riddell> but for now I should upload it to vivid
[13:57] <Odur> Riddell: Yeah, I just read that too :). Thanks anyway
[13:59] <Riddell> Odur: packaging anything interesting?
[14:00] <soee> _Groo_: this is it i think https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316591
[14:00] <ubottu> KDE bug 316591 in contactlist "Contact list does not show settings-button, if its to narrow" [Normal,Confirmed]
[14:00] <Odur> Riddell: Nope. Just a wether-widget for SMHI (Swedish meterology institute)
[14:06] <Odur> For the first time in 6 years or so I upgraded my Kubuntu installation instead of doing a fresh install. Worked perfectly :)
[14:07] <Riddell> yay
[14:10] <Odur> Well, almost. Loading of firmware for my bluetooth don't work, but it's a minor problem. And there were one package that didn't get removed as it should. But that was fixed with manual removal
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:28] <Odur> The bluetooth problem was easily solved. For some reason it searched for the .hcd file at another location and a different name. Just move and rename and all is good :)
[15:08] <sgclark> morning
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[15:11] <Riddell> hola sgclark 
[15:11] <Riddell> KF5 5.4 in vivid
[15:11] <Riddell> and I forgot extra-cmake-modules
[15:11] <Riddell> you'd think I'd remember that by now
[15:11] <sgclark> lol
[15:11] <sgclark> Riddell: I put 5.1.1 in next staging
[15:12] <Riddell> oh groovy
[15:12] <Riddell> mostly green too http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.1.1_vivid.html
[15:13] <murthy> Can any one confirm this after reproducing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1389847
[15:13] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1389847 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity waits until the driver-manager finishes before proceeding to the partitioning screen" [Undecided,New]
[15:15]  * Riddell only has free hardware that needs to scary drivers so doesn't have this issue
[15:17] <murthy> Riddell: Read the note at the end of the bug report
[15:17] <sgclark> my internet is only terrible in the sense that it cuts off all the time, when it is up it is speedy. So no I cannot reproduce :(
[15:19] <murthy> what happens when there is no network connectivity when the package manager is downloading a package?
[15:19] <murthy> does it wait or does it quit?
[15:20] <murthy> sgclark: Is it possible to reduce the internet speed in a virtual box?
[15:21] <sgclark> murthy: good question, that i can test, give me a few
[15:21] <murthy> ok
[15:21] <sgclark> murthy: hmm have never actually tried that
[15:22] <murthy> If that is possible reduce the speed to the very least possible
[15:23] <murthy> does the package manager check for a minimum internet speed before terminating  the download process?
[15:28] <apachelogger> if a host cannot be resolved it aborts immediately, if the networkinterface goes down it would probably also abort immediately, if there is IO starvation it will abort after a timeout of presumably at least 10 seconds
[15:28] <apachelogger> so you can put limit the speed to 1byte/s and it would still be good enough
[15:30] <apachelogger> do note that you can throttle the bandwith for apt itself, in case you don't want to limit the entire system... that way only the package downloads will be at a lower speed
[15:31] <murthy> apachelogger: can we limit the bandwidth in virtualbox?
[15:32] <apachelogger> probably
[15:33] <apachelogger> apt doesn't really care where it is run :P
[15:38] <murthy> apachelogger: Is there a possibility the driver-manager or apt blocking the main ubiquity process?
[15:38] <apachelogger> yes
[15:39] <murthy> ok
[15:43] <Riddell> dantti: sorry apper being removed from the archive now that kde-workspace-dev is gone
[15:45] <murthy> Just asking this out of curiosity, I had seen some python code in the kubuntu installer component, why so instead of using C++ ?
[15:46] <Riddell> murthy: python is easier than c++ to write, especially if you want your code to be either qt or gtk from 1 codebase
[15:47] <apachelogger> one might disagree on all of those points
[15:47] <apachelogger> ...
[15:47] <murthy> Ya thats true, but isn't it one of the reason why we changed kpackagekit with muon?
[15:47] <Riddell> nope
[16:08] <sgclark> fun.. ../../../phonon/platform_kde/kiomediastream.h:23:38: fatal error: Phonon/AbstractMediaStream: No such file or directory
[16:09] <sgclark> apachelogger: ^
[16:10] <Riddell> sgclark: where's this?
[16:10] <Riddell> sgclark: I've been moving phonon headers today
[16:11] <Riddell> sgclark: have you got phonon 4:4.8.0-~4ubuntu2  ?
[16:12] <sgclark> Riddell: next-staging
[16:13] <_Groo_> is the kio-extras triggered to build today?
[16:13] <_Groo_> in ci unstable
[16:15] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ./desktop/usr-share/layout.js
[16:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: scripts/casper-bottom/25adduser:      chroot /root install -D -o $USERNAME -g $USERNAME /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/layout.js /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js
[16:17] <shadeslayer> ok thx
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[16:24] <apachelogger> wgrant: fwiw, today just about all builds seem incredibly slow, 90 sources that usually build in <6 hours have been for 16 hours now
[16:24] <apachelogger> seems to be getting worse every day :S
[16:44] <santa_> hi
[16:46] <santa_> have you pushed your partial work on 5.4.0 to git? I mean the manpages addition to not-installed and such
[16:46] <santa_> + the symbols update for plasma-framework
[16:56] <sgclark> seems not
[17:00] <sgclark> plasma-framework pushed as that was the one I worked on. 
[17:02] <sgclark> Riddell: you did not apply your changes to 5.4.0 to git? :) I would have grab all the packages and create patches then push unless Riddell wants to push his changes
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[17:12] <santa_> thanks for taking care
[17:24] <Riddell> sgclark: what what?
[17:24] <Riddell> santa_: yes it should be all in git
[17:24] <Riddell> kubuntu_vivid_archive branches
[17:25] <sgclark> Riddell: nah it isn't, been looking
[17:26] <sgclark> oh wait
[17:26] <sgclark> wierd
[17:27] <santa_> I have been forking siductions packaging from kubuntu_vivid_archive
[17:27] <sgclark> Riddell: this is odd, some are updated and others are not
[17:27] <santa_> thing is: for instance, your kross build doesn't complain about missing files (the manpage, which is compressed)
[17:28] <santa_> I guess because you updated the not-installed file
[17:28] <santa_> however my kross build complains about the missing file
[17:28] <santa_> compare http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.4.0_vivid.html
[17:28] <santa_> with http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_status/
[17:29]  * santa_ checks git again...
[17:31] <santa_> nope, kross/kubuntu_vivid_archive doesn't have the updated not-installed file
[17:31] <santa_> there are other packages with the same problem wrt manpages
[17:32] <santa_> it's not an issue for me, but just saying in case you missed some git pushes
[17:34] <santa_> oh, wait. I found it
[17:34] <sgclark> I am so confued
[17:35] <santa_> I need to do another round of builds later to check properly, apparently the only thing missing was the symbol removal
[17:35] <santa_> (already pushed)
[17:36] <sgclark> right, that was my bad
[17:36] <sgclark> ok so we are good right?
[17:37] <dantti> Riddell: np, hopefuly I'll find some time in future for apper2 qml/qt5 based
[17:43] <santa_> sgclark: I think so, I will let you know if I find issues in the next kubuntu_vivid_archive build
[17:44] <santa_> (I tend to think I won't)
[17:44] <sgclark> ok
[19:04] <Riddell> sgclark: oh well I'll sort it out on monday I guess
[19:04]  * Riddell off for the weekend
[19:04] <sgclark> Riddell: I think we are good
[19:04] <sgclark> Riddell: I am also going to take the weekend off!
[19:27] <bukai> soee: ping
[19:38] <bukai> Riddell: ping
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[22:50] <valorie> sgclark: nice weekend to be out and about!
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