| === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 06:44 |
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| === duflu_ is now known as duflu | ||
| didrocks | morning | 08:16 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 08:49 |
| seb128 | happy friday | 08:49 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 08:49 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks ;-) | 08:50 |
| * didrocks reboots under systemd | 08:56 | |
| didrocks | hum, Alt + a is broken in gnome-terminal again :/ | 08:59 |
| didrocks | mnemonics are still disabled though | 09:00 |
| Laney | yo yo | 09:04 |
| Laney | happy friday | 09:04 |
| didrocks | hey Laney! | 09:04 |
| * didrocks looks at Laney to now fix mnemonics :) | 09:05 | |
| Laney | ... | 09:05 |
| didrocks | or rather mnemonics disablement | 09:05 |
| Laney | hello to you too | 09:05 |
| didrocks | ;) | 09:05 |
| didrocks | more seriously, weechat is really unusable with this bug :/ | 09:06 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, happy friday | 09:06 |
| Laney | well I'm sorry but the shortcuts work for me | 09:06 |
| Laney | so I'll need some help debugging | 09:06 |
| didrocks | Laney: the issue is that they work, there is an issue to disable mnemonics | 09:07 |
| seb128 | xchat-gnome ftw! | 09:07 |
| didrocks | and so then, they are given to the terminal app | 09:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: I can run my weechat on the unity8 desktop session at least! :) | 09:07 |
| didrocks | Laney: edit -> preferences -> enable mnemonics (uncheck) | 09:07 |
| Laney | alt-a isn't even a mnemonic | 09:08 |
| Laney | I have it enabled and can switch to that window | 09:08 |
| didrocks | you global menu doesn't catch it? | 09:08 |
| Laney | no | 09:08 |
| didrocks | I can't Alt + a anymore thoughor Alt + 1, 2, 3… to switch windows | 09:08 |
| didrocks | I guess the Alt + 1, 2, 3 is better of this new tab behavior | 09:09 |
| didrocks | because* | 09:09 |
| didrocks | (even with one tab) | 09:09 |
| didrocks | alt + a, I don't know… | 09:09 |
| didrocks | Laney: maybe weechat changed its behavior, can you ping here? | 09:09 |
| Laney | you want me to highlight you? | 09:11 |
| didrocks | just writing something, so it seems this works | 09:11 |
| didrocks | I was able to switch where there was some activity with alt + a | 09:11 |
| didrocks | but weechat definition of activity changed | 09:11 |
| didrocks | (like join/quit isn't considered as an activity anymore it seems) | 09:12 |
| didrocks | so alt + a is still working | 09:12 |
| Laney | why can't you just switch whenever you want | 09:12 |
| Laney | did you upgrade weechat at the same time? | 09:12 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's been upgraded at the same time here | 09:12 |
| didrocks | so they just changed their behavior on alt + a, but it's working then | 09:12 |
| didrocks | Laney: to switch whenever I want, it's alt + 1, 2, 3… | 09:13 |
| Laney | ah, alt-a is something about jumping with activity | 09:13 |
| didrocks | yep :) | 09:13 |
| didrocks | quite handy | 09:13 |
| Laney | I have enough windows that it's alt-1-9q-mQ-Z ... | 09:13 |
| didrocks | Laney: but alt 1…9 doesn't work anymore for you, right? | 09:13 |
| Laney | you have to clear them, that's my mail | 09:13 |
| didrocks | I stopped at the troll! | 09:14 |
| * didrocks reads | 09:14 | |
| seb128 | hum | 09:14 |
| seb128 | unity is replacing the firefox icon with a "?" in my launcher since today | 09:15 |
| seb128 | wth? | 09:15 |
| Laney | I saw that yesterday | 09:15 |
| Laney | but it's right now? | 09:15 |
| didrocks | Laney: I can live again! thanks a lot man :) | 09:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, "right now"? | 09:15 |
| Laney | like I started this morning and it has an icon again | 09:15 |
| seb128 | oh, you mean it's working now for you? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | does it still work if you run and close firefox? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | I logged out and in and the icon was correct | 09:15 |
| Laney | oh yeah | 09:16 |
| seb128 | but it got replaced with a "?" again now | 09:16 |
| Laney | second launch | 09:16 |
| Laney | also I didn't get my tabs back ... | 09:16 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson!!! | 09:16 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 09:16 |
| Laney | first launch was the close/restore tabs thing, then after I quit and reopened | 09:16 |
| seb128 | weird, firefox didn't change recently | 09:16 |
| Laney | no icon and no tabs | 09:16 |
| Laney | GTK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 09:16 |
| chrisccoulson | desktop bug | 09:17 |
| chrisccoulson | :P | 09:17 |
| willcooke | popey <--> didrocks | 09:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, could be, but firefox is still gtk2... | 09:17 |
| willcooke | scheduling ^ | 09:17 |
| Laney | yeah | 09:17 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? ;-) | 09:17 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 09:17 |
| didrocks | popey <--> popey | 09:17 |
| didrocks | zomg infinite loop! :) | 09:17 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. and you? | 09:17 |
| Laney | I would believe if bamf used it for icon stuff somehow though | 09:17 |
| willcooke | popey != popey | 09:17 |
| popey | yo | 09:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, that makes sense | 09:17 |
| didrocks | !== (he's a web guy ;)) | 09:17 |
| ubot5 | didrocks: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 09:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, neither unity, bamf nor firefox changed | 09:17 |
| * seb128 adds to the pad | 09:18 | |
| didrocks | popey: hey, you are scheduling my udtc session? | 09:18 |
| willcooke | morning seb128, Laney, chrisccoulson, didrocks, popey | 09:18 |
| Laney | seb128: check bamf actually does use it though | 09:18 |
| Laney | hi willcooke | 09:18 |
| chrisccoulson | hi willcooke | 09:18 |
| popey | didrocks: just just asking when you want it | 09:18 |
| Laney | yeah bamfdaemon links against gtk23 | 09:18 |
| Laney | 3 | 09:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, $ ldd /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/bamf/bamfdaemon | grep gtk | 09:18 |
| seb128 | libgtk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 (0xb6e2d000) | 09:18 |
| didrocks | popey: I have a community guy coming to the session, he can either on wednesday or thursday, but only at 5PM UTC | 09:18 |
| popey | 5pm is lunch | 09:19 |
| popey | "lunch" | 09:19 |
| popey | http://drool.popey.com/ | 09:19 |
| didrocks | ok, then 6 (I'll just finish up a little bit earlier with him) | 09:19 |
| popey | ok | 09:19 |
| didrocks | hehe :) | 09:20 |
| popey | done | 09:20 |
| didrocks | popey: thanks! I'll email him! (did you set it to wednesday or thursday?) | 09:20 |
| Laney | you have lunch at 5pm? | 09:20 |
| popey | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-12/display?edit | 09:20 |
| didrocks | Laney: that's what summit.ubuntu.com tells you, that's what you will do then! :) | 09:20 |
| popey | it's always lunchtime somewhere | 09:20 |
| Laney | UOS lunch | 09:20 |
| Laney | hahaha | 09:20 |
| popey | didrocks: that okay? | 09:20 |
| didrocks | popey: perfect! do you who should I ask for the platform track? | 09:21 |
| didrocks | I have the bluez session there | 09:21 |
| popey | didrocks: i cant see how to figure that data out. dpm may know. | 09:22 |
| didrocks | dpm? ^ | 09:23 |
| didrocks | popey: thanks for scheduling :) | 09:23 |
| popey | np | 09:26 |
| didrocks | Laney: how would you handle a state that is computed in a preinst (and then we remove that info from the system), to get it back in the postinst? | 09:48 |
| didrocks | like, I'm grepping a conffiles in preinst | 09:48 |
| didrocks | sedding it to remove that whole deprecated info | 09:48 |
| didrocks | and want that info in the postinst (as I install an init script in the new package version) to perform an operation | 09:48 |
| * didrocks will go the manual way probably | 09:50 | |
| Laney | didrocks: which information? | 09:50 |
| didrocks | Laney: basically, disabling some init scripts | 09:51 |
| didrocks | Laney: we have a package which only have systemd and upstart script | 09:52 |
| didrocks | no init | 09:52 |
| didrocks | consequence, we have some bugs in the debian systemd tools | 09:52 |
| didrocks | where it will restart the daemon after upgrade, even if disabled | 09:52 |
| didrocks | from discussion with the debian guys, we should ship an init script | 09:52 |
| Laney | I guess save the information you need into some file in the preinst | 09:52 |
| didrocks | but then, I need to disable as well the init script | 09:52 |
| greyback | Hey folks, some advice please. Starting my machine this morning, it remains stuck at the Plymouth screen. Usual log files not giving me anything relevant. And tips/advice or ideas? | 09:52 |
| didrocks | Laney: that's what I was doing, like in /tmp/ | 09:53 |
| didrocks | Laney: but then, a lovely lintian warning: | 09:53 |
| === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr | ||
| Laney | I'd probably put it alongside the file you're editing | 09:53 |
| Laney | because you know this is mounted etc | 09:53 |
| didrocks | oh, neat idea! | 09:54 |
| didrocks | definitively doing that :) | 09:54 |
| didrocks | thanks Laney! | 09:54 |
| Laney | there could be some cool way I don't know about though ;-) | 09:54 |
| didrocks | doesn't seem from my googling | 09:54 |
| didrocks | and yeah, disabling the init file that you are just installing <-> chicken and egg pb :) | 09:55 |
| seb128 | greyback, can you ctrl-alt-f1 to a command line? | 09:56 |
| seb128 | what did you install/change? is that vivid? | 09:56 |
| Laney | larsu: hey, could you eyeball a couple of gnome-disk-utility changes for me please? | 09:56 |
| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8865126/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8865127/ | 09:56 |
| Laney | are we doing 'is Unity' or 'is not GNOME'? | 09:57 |
| Laney | and should I try to forward it? :) | 09:57 |
| seb128 | the second one for sure | 09:57 |
| Laney | yes | 09:58 |
| greyback | seb128: no. Is utopic. I hadn't been fiddling at anything dodgy anyway. This is just a week old install. | 09:58 |
| seb128 | weird :/ | 09:58 |
| larsu | Laney: ya, let's max-width-chars ALL THE THINGS | 09:58 |
| Laney | that one is obvious | 09:58 |
| greyback | seb128: yeah, I'm kinda stumped | 09:58 |
| seb128 | greyback, sudo status lightdm? | 09:58 |
| larsu | Laney: the other one seems to have an unclosed <object> tag | 09:59 |
| Laney | line 79? | 09:59 |
| greyback | seb128: how do I run that, if I can't switch to a virtual console | 09:59 |
| seb128 | greyback, oh, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work? | 09:59 |
| larsu | Laney: or is this me reading the diff wrong?! | 09:59 |
| Laney | I didn't reindent it because diff noise | 09:59 |
| larsu | ah | 09:59 |
| seb128 | greyback, shrug, you might want to ask on #ubuntu-devel, that seems early boot more than desktop | 10:00 |
| larsu | then it might be ok | 10:00 |
| Laney | xmllint believes me anyway | 10:00 |
| larsu | Laney: we do !GNOME | 10:00 |
| greyback | seb128: oh, I just thought of something stupid I didn't do - I switched to VT1, but didn't hit enter to actually see the console. D'oh | 10:00 |
| larsu | Laney: the commit message says that it adds the title bar on !Unity, but really you're adding the header bar on !Unity | 10:01 |
| Laney | it should say title bar on Unity, but that's changing anyway | 10:03 |
| Laney | I'll just say "Use a title bar on non-GNOME environments, keeping the header bar as a toolbar" or something | 10:03 |
| larsu | right | 10:08 |
| larsu | want me to properly test it as well? | 10:08 |
| Laney | nah it's ok | 10:10 |
| Laney | the only slightly weird thing is that it uses a subtitle but I'm not sure it's worth changing | 10:10 |
| Laney | might as well forward and see what they say | 10:11 |
| larsu | we might want to do "<main> - <subtitle>" | 10:13 |
| Laney | maybe | 10:16 |
| greyback | seb128: figured out main issue, had typo in /etc/fstab, mountall was waiting for the device to appear, blocking everything else | 10:55 |
| seb128 | greyback, nice that you figured it out, did you edit that file yourself or...? | 10:56 |
| greyback | seb128: yep | 10:56 |
| greyback | user error | 10:56 |
| seb128 | k | 10:56 |
| seb128 | still annoying that the system doesn't cope better with those | 10:56 |
| greyback | seb128: true, I found bug 1096307 on the roughly same issue | 10:58 |
| ubot5 | bug 1096307 in plymouth (Ubuntu) " Boot process hang because 'mountall' fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096307 | 10:58 |
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| Laney | oh hello yak, you're looking a bit unkempt | 13:07 |
| * ogra_ hands Laney the bag with curlers | 13:08 | |
| * Laney pictures a different and more fun kind of yak curling | 13:08 | |
| ogra_ | ha | 13:09 |
| maddawgEOL | bleh i always have a nervous breakdown when i go to sign in to my bank account online | 13:17 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| === oCrazyLem is now known as CrazyLemon | ||
| === ara is now known as Guest54796 | ||
| * willcooke -> EOW | 17:41 | |
| * willcooke -> Zzzz | 17:41 | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| Laney | me too | 18:10 |
| Laney | happy weekend all! | 18:10 |
| * Laney notes didrocks silently left | 18:11 | |
| seb128 | Laney, have a good w.e! | 18:13 |
| === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|sick | ||
| xnox | Laney: mini-debconf cambridge? | 23:56 |
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