=== TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso [06:44] Good morning === duflu_ is now known as duflu [08:16] morning [08:49] good morning desktopers! [08:49] happy friday [08:49] hey seb128 [08:50] lut didrocks ;-) [08:56] * didrocks reboots under systemd [08:59] hum, Alt + a is broken in gnome-terminal again :/ [09:00] mnemonics are still disabled though [09:04] yo yo [09:04] happy friday [09:04] hey Laney! [09:05] * didrocks looks at Laney to now fix mnemonics :) [09:05] ... [09:05] or rather mnemonics disablement [09:05] hello to you too [09:05] ;) [09:06] more seriously, weechat is really unusable with this bug :/ [09:06] hey Laney, happy friday [09:06] well I'm sorry but the shortcuts work for me [09:06] so I'll need some help debugging [09:07] Laney: the issue is that they work, there is an issue to disable mnemonics [09:07] xchat-gnome ftw! [09:07] and so then, they are given to the terminal app [09:07] seb128: I can run my weechat on the unity8 desktop session at least! :) [09:07] Laney: edit -> preferences -> enable mnemonics (uncheck) [09:08] alt-a isn't even a mnemonic [09:08] I have it enabled and can switch to that window [09:08] you global menu doesn't catch it? [09:08] no [09:08] I can't Alt + a anymore thoughor Alt + 1, 2, 3… to switch windows [09:09] I guess the Alt + 1, 2, 3 is better of this new tab behavior [09:09] because* [09:09] (even with one tab) [09:09] alt + a, I don't know… [09:09] Laney: maybe weechat changed its behavior, can you ping here? [09:11] you want me to highlight you? [09:11] just writing something, so it seems this works [09:11] I was able to switch where there was some activity with alt + a [09:11] but weechat definition of activity changed [09:12] (like join/quit isn't considered as an activity anymore it seems) [09:12] so alt + a is still working [09:12] why can't you just switch whenever you want [09:12] did you upgrade weechat at the same time? [09:12] yeah, it's been upgraded at the same time here [09:12] so they just changed their behavior on alt + a, but it's working then [09:13] Laney: to switch whenever I want, it's alt + 1, 2, 3… [09:13] ah, alt-a is something about jumping with activity [09:13] yep :) [09:13] quite handy [09:13] I have enough windows that it's alt-1-9q-mQ-Z ... [09:13] Laney: but alt 1…9 doesn't work anymore for you, right? [09:13] you have to clear them, that's my mail [09:14] I stopped at the troll! [09:14] * didrocks reads [09:14] hum [09:15] unity is replacing the firefox icon with a "?" in my launcher since today [09:15] wth? [09:15] I saw that yesterday [09:15] but it's right now? [09:15] Laney: I can live again! thanks a lot man :) [09:15] Laney, "right now"? [09:15] like I started this morning and it has an icon again [09:15] oh, you mean it's working now for you? [09:15] does it still work if you run and close firefox? [09:15] I logged out and in and the icon was correct [09:16] oh yeah [09:16] but it got replaced with a "?" again now [09:16] second launch [09:16] also I didn't get my tabs back ... [09:16] chrisccoulson!!! [09:16] hi seb128 [09:16] first launch was the close/restore tabs thing, then after I quit and reopened [09:16] weird, firefox didn't change recently [09:16] no icon and no tabs [09:16] GTK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:17] desktop bug [09:17] :P [09:17] popey <--> didrocks [09:17] Laney, could be, but firefox is still gtk2... [09:17] scheduling ^ [09:17] yeah [09:17] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? ;-) [09:17] hey willcooke [09:17] popey <--> popey [09:17] zomg infinite loop! :) [09:17] seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. and you? [09:17] I would believe if bamf used it for icon stuff somehow though [09:17] popey != popey [09:17] yo [09:17] Laney, that makes sense [09:17] !== (he's a web guy ;)) [09:17] didrocks: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [09:17] Laney, neither unity, bamf nor firefox changed [09:18] * seb128 adds to the pad [09:18] popey: hey, you are scheduling my udtc session? [09:18] morning seb128, Laney, chrisccoulson, didrocks, popey [09:18] seb128: check bamf actually does use it though [09:18] hi willcooke [09:18] hi willcooke [09:18] didrocks: just just asking when you want it [09:18] yeah bamfdaemon links against gtk23 [09:18] 3 [09:18] Laney, $ ldd /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/bamf/bamfdaemon | grep gtk [09:18] libgtk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 (0xb6e2d000) [09:18] popey: I have a community guy coming to the session, he can either on wednesday or thursday, but only at 5PM UTC [09:19] 5pm is lunch [09:19] "lunch" [09:19] http://drool.popey.com/ [09:19] ok, then 6 (I'll just finish up a little bit earlier with him) [09:19] ok [09:20] hehe :) [09:20] done [09:20] popey: thanks! I'll email him! (did you set it to wednesday or thursday?) [09:20] you have lunch at 5pm? [09:20] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-12/display?edit [09:20] Laney: that's what summit.ubuntu.com tells you, that's what you will do then! :) [09:20] it's always lunchtime somewhere [09:20] UOS lunch [09:20] hahaha [09:20] didrocks: that okay? [09:21] popey: perfect! do you who should I ask for the platform track? [09:21] I have the bluez session there [09:22] didrocks: i cant see how to figure that data out. dpm may know. [09:23] dpm? ^ [09:23] popey: thanks for scheduling :) [09:26] np [09:48] Laney: how would you handle a state that is computed in a preinst (and then we remove that info from the system), to get it back in the postinst? [09:48] like, I'm grepping a conffiles in preinst [09:48] sedding it to remove that whole deprecated info [09:48] and want that info in the postinst (as I install an init script in the new package version) to perform an operation [09:50] * didrocks will go the manual way probably [09:50] didrocks: which information? [09:51] Laney: basically, disabling some init scripts [09:52] Laney: we have a package which only have systemd and upstart script [09:52] no init [09:52] consequence, we have some bugs in the debian systemd tools [09:52] where it will restart the daemon after upgrade, even if disabled [09:52] from discussion with the debian guys, we should ship an init script [09:52] I guess save the information you need into some file in the preinst [09:52] but then, I need to disable as well the init script [09:52] Hey folks, some advice please. Starting my machine this morning, it remains stuck at the Plymouth screen. Usual log files not giving me anything relevant. And tips/advice or ideas? [09:53] Laney: that's what I was doing, like in /tmp/ [09:53] Laney: but then, a lovely lintian warning: === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:53] I'd probably put it alongside the file you're editing [09:53] because you know this is mounted etc [09:54] oh, neat idea! [09:54] definitively doing that :) [09:54] thanks Laney! [09:54] there could be some cool way I don't know about though ;-) [09:54] doesn't seem from my googling [09:55] and yeah, disabling the init file that you are just installing <-> chicken and egg pb :) [09:56] greyback, can you ctrl-alt-f1 to a command line? [09:56] what did you install/change? is that vivid? [09:56] larsu: hey, could you eyeball a couple of gnome-disk-utility changes for me please? [09:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8865126/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8865127/ [09:57] are we doing 'is Unity' or 'is not GNOME'? [09:57] and should I try to forward it? :) [09:57] the second one for sure [09:58] yes [09:58] seb128: no. Is utopic. I hadn't been fiddling at anything dodgy anyway. This is just a week old install. [09:58] weird :/ [09:58] Laney: ya, let's max-width-chars ALL THE THINGS [09:58] that one is obvious [09:58] seb128: yeah, I'm kinda stumped [09:58] greyback, sudo status lightdm? [09:59] Laney: the other one seems to have an unclosed tag [09:59] line 79? [09:59] seb128: how do I run that, if I can't switch to a virtual console [09:59] greyback, oh, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work? [09:59] Laney: or is this me reading the diff wrong?! [09:59] I didn't reindent it because diff noise [09:59] ah [10:00] greyback, shrug, you might want to ask on #ubuntu-devel, that seems early boot more than desktop [10:00] then it might be ok [10:00] xmllint believes me anyway [10:00] Laney: we do !GNOME [10:00] seb128: oh, I just thought of something stupid I didn't do - I switched to VT1, but didn't hit enter to actually see the console. D'oh [10:01] Laney: the commit message says that it adds the title bar on !Unity, but really you're adding the header bar on !Unity [10:03] it should say title bar on Unity, but that's changing anyway [10:03] I'll just say "Use a title bar on non-GNOME environments, keeping the header bar as a toolbar" or something [10:08] right [10:08] want me to properly test it as well? [10:10] nah it's ok [10:10] the only slightly weird thing is that it uses a subtitle but I'm not sure it's worth changing [10:11] might as well forward and see what they say [10:13] we might want to do "
- " [10:16] maybe [10:55] seb128: figured out main issue, had typo in /etc/fstab, mountall was waiting for the device to appear, blocking everything else [10:56] greyback, nice that you figured it out, did you edit that file yourself or...? [10:56] seb128: yep [10:56] user error [10:56] k [10:56] still annoying that the system doesn't cope better with those [10:58] seb128: true, I found bug 1096307 on the roughly same issue [10:58] bug 1096307 in plymouth (Ubuntu) " Boot process hang because 'mountall' fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096307 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:07] oh hello yak, you're looking a bit unkempt [13:08] * ogra_ hands Laney the bag with curlers [13:08] * Laney pictures a different and more fun kind of yak curling [13:09] ha [13:17] bleh i always have a nervous breakdown when i go to sign in to my bank account online === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === oCrazyLem is now known as CrazyLemon === ara is now known as Guest54796 [17:41] * willcooke -> EOW [17:41] * willcooke -> Zzzz === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:10] me too [18:10] happy weekend all! [18:11] * Laney notes didrocks silently left [18:13] Laney, have a good w.e! === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|sick [23:56] Laney: mini-debconf cambridge?