[08:53] <tsdgeos> Saviq: what about getting https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/huddie/+merge/239831 in ? It'll save some compile time and maybe even make installation better
[08:54] <tsdgeos> since maybe we save the phone from having dee installed
[09:20] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, btw... looks like the combobutton replacement branch is going to be included after all
[09:21] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, checked yesterday via email what's the status on the subject is with stakeholders
[09:21] <tsdgeos> ok
[09:22] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, also kicked off another build on jenkins... after I saw that there were still whitespace issues.
[09:30] <tsdgeos> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat has happened to our header?¿?¿
[09:42] <Saviq> tsdgeos, wer?
[09:42] <tsdgeos> Saviq: make tryDash looks specially bad
[09:42] <tsdgeos> vivid
[09:43] <tsdgeos> is this the UITK change we need mzanetti's branch for?
[09:43] <mzanetti> hmm
[09:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ugh
[09:44] <mzanetti> if it has multiple bottom separators, yes
[09:44] <Saviq> yeah looks like it
[09:46] <mzanetti> yeah... timp approved that header branch
[09:46] <mzanetti> I actually thought he'll land it in the same silo or so
[09:53] <Saviq> tsdgeos, .pot update for huddie do you think?
[09:53] <tsdgeos> can do
[09:59] <tsdgeos> Saviq: done
[09:59] <Saviq> tsdgeos, tx
[10:06] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: can you remove this probably unneeded change?
[10:06] <tsdgeos> 309	- hints: {"x-canonical-private-affirmative-tint": "true"},
[10:06] <tsdgeos> 310	+ hints: {"x-canonical-private-affirmative-tint": "true",},
[10:08] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, sure
[10:11] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, pushed
[10:12] <Saviq> whoa, qmluitests green again \o/
[10:14] <tsdgeos> well
[10:14] <tsdgeos> now for autopilot :D
[10:21] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, do you have to spoil the fun ;)
[10:22] <tsdgeos> i'm like that
[10:22] <tsdgeos> the party animal!
[10:23] <MacSlow> :)
[10:25] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: so we don't do the delayed height animation anymore?
[10:29] <mzanetti> ...
[10:33] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: so basically with the new code
[10:33] <tsdgeos> action with index 2 is just the text that is shown in the expander, but doesn't "do" anything, right?
[10:34] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, correct..that's what design wants
[10:34] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: has spec or whatever been updated so people using this knows?
[10:37] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: i have the feeling that the mousearea there should be an AbstractButton so that there is haptic feedback
[10:38] <tsdgeos> and imho
[10:38] <tsdgeos> optionToggle.expanded = optionToggle.expanded ? false : true
[10:38] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, since nothing is using it yet, there's nothing that could break.
[10:38] <tsdgeos> would read better as
[10:38] <tsdgeos> optionToggle.expanded = !optionToggle.expanded
[10:39] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: i'm not saying breaking, i'm saying documenting
[10:39] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, the only "documentation" is the design-spec
[10:39] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:40] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, any the examples from lp:unity-notifications
[10:40] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, and those I always keep aligned with the latest design-mockups I receive
[10:42] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, I'm using "optionToggle.expanded = optionToggle.expanded ? false : true"
[10:42] <tsdgeos> yes
[10:42] <tsdgeos> i say i think i think the other reads better
[10:42] <tsdgeos> but that's fine if you don't want to change it
[10:42] <tsdgeos> the MouseArea vs AbstractButton i think is something we should change though
[10:42] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, you just mixed up these two :)
[10:43] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, I'll look into the AbstractButton
[10:54] <mzanetti> greyback: hey, for the antialiasing we'd need that branch too. https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/antialiasing-spread/+merge/240581
[10:54] <mzanetti> it's an easy one though
[10:54] <greyback> mzanetti, ok
[10:55] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, fixed mentioned issues.
[10:57] <MacSlow> amazing to see a jenkins-run on a unity8-branch with everything succeeding
[11:07] <greyback> am I really too stupid to figure out how to restore one file with dejadup?
[11:08] <greyback> "You can restore the entire backup with the Restore... button" - ok I see that
[11:08] <Saviq> greyback, doesn't it integrate with nautilus or something?
[11:08] <greyback> "or use Files to either revert individual files or restore missing ones" - where the f*ck is "Files" - I only have "Help" in the menus
[11:08] <Saviq> greyback, nautilus is "Files"
[11:09] <greyback> Saviq: that's retarted
[11:09] <Saviq> greyback, you know who to talk to ;)
[11:10] <greyback> indeed
[11:10] <greyback> bbiab
[11:10] <davmor2> greyback: totem is videos, epiphany is web, etc etc etc  it's all gnomes making it easier naming thing
[11:11] <MacSlow> "Files" vs "nautilus" -> new user vs old-school user
[11:13] <larsu> we're doing the same on touch, no? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps
[11:13] <larsu> "Weather", "Music", "Share", ...
[11:14] <larsu> I think it's just the modern way to name apps
[11:14] <larsu> (that are part of the system)
[11:14] <tsdgeos> larsu: it's not the modern way it's the "You shall not use other apps other than the blessed ones" way
[11:14] <tsdgeos> because who in it's mind would use "somename" when you have "Videos" around
[11:15] <larsu> tsdgeos: who forces anyone to use those apps?
[11:15] <tsdgeos> larsu: the *name*
[11:15] <larsu> the name forces?
[11:15] <larsu> this is ridiculous
[11:15] <tsdgeos> yep
[11:15] <tsdgeos> people is ridiculous :D
[11:15] <tsdgeos> don't quote me on that ;)
[11:15] <larsu> people use firefox on gnome even though "Web" is around
[11:15] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, it's going on the quotes-page now :-P
[11:16] <larsu> tsdgeos: and calendar apps on android/ios even though "Calendar" is around
[11:16] <tsdgeos> larsu: sure, that's because Web is maybe not that good and because Firefox is a powerhouse name
[11:16] <facundobatista> Holas
[11:17] <larsu> tsdgeos: how about third party camera apps on ios? They're really popular
[11:17] <larsu> tsdgeos: but the default app is named ... Camera
[11:18] <larsu> I think it's just a "comes from os vendor"/"is a 3rd party app with its own branding" distinction
[11:18] <larsu> since the os vendor doesn't usually need to brand each bundled app
[11:19] <larsu> (they still do for high profile apps, such as browsers)
[11:22] <tsdgeos> larsu: maybe
[11:23] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: yeah this is really better than the old thing
[11:24] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: would you hate me much if i ask for a single icon instead of two?
[11:24] <tsdgeos> or you think it'd make the code les readable?
[11:24] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, single icon ?
[11:24] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, where
[11:24] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: you have two Icon {}
[11:25] <tsdgeos> but they are alternatively visibible
[11:25] <tsdgeos> i.e. one is
[11:25] <tsdgeos> visible: index !== startIndex
[11:25] <tsdgeos> and the other
[11:25] <tsdgeos> visible: index [11:25] <tsdgeos> so could really use One
[11:26] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, hm... let me see
[11:28] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, the layout/placement will look weird
[11:31] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: you mean the code
[11:31] <tsdgeos> to make it be either on left/right if it's index [11:33] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, no... startIndexis for the passed in model
[11:33] <tsdgeos> ok, leave it like this
[11:34] <tsdgeos> it's one extra Icon{} only
[11:34] <tsdgeos> and it's not like Notification is there all the time
[11:34] <tsdgeos> wasting memory
[11:41] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, one potentially can get only one such notification with the new OptionToggle at time
[11:57] <tsdgeos> sure
[12:00] <mzanetti> Cimi: hey, you in the office today?
[12:10] <Cimi> mzanetti, nope
[12:11] <Cimi> mzanetti, I'll hardly go with my back in the next weeks... but I will if needed
[12:11] <Cimi> mzanetti, is there a silo to test?
[12:11] <Cimi> 4?
[12:14] <mzanetti> Cimi: problem solved... did a hangout with design
[12:27] <Cimi> mzanetti, is there also a silo we need to test?
[12:28] <mzanetti> Cimi: no, not that I know of
[12:28] <mzanetti> are we gonna land the list on bottom swipe for rtm now?
[12:28] <mzanetti> seeing there's a silo for it
[12:29] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: we're not
[12:29] <mzanetti> ok
[12:29] <tsdgeos> unless someone overruled what kgunn said yesterday :D
[12:29] <mzanetti> :D
[13:40] <Saviq> mzanetti, tsdgeos, which is the branch fixing the header?
[13:49] <tsdgeos> Saviq: haven't tried, but https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/new-pageheader-api/+merge/239242 ?
[13:53] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i find it weird they are changing public api unless this is going to land on rtm
[13:53] <tsdgeos> this late
[13:53] <tsdgeos> but oh well
[13:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I find it weird how that landed at all
[13:54] <tsdgeos> Saviq: but it's vivid only, no?
[13:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yes, but well, how it landed in vivid? it's kinda easy to notice...
[13:54] <tsdgeos> ah
[13:54] <tsdgeos> sure
[14:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, would you have some time to look at the remaining autopilot failure we have in ci?
[14:36] <Saviq> /latefood
[15:17] <mzanetti> Saviq: yeah, can have a look
[15:52] <cwayne> Saviq: whats the key combo to invoke screenshotter?
[15:53] <Saviq> cwayne, volup+voldown
[15:53] <cwayne> Saviq: nice, thanks
[16:08]  * greyback eow
[16:08] <greyback> good weekend guys!
[16:15] <mzanetti> Saviq: we can't run autopilot from a source dir any more, can we?
[16:19] <robotfuel> mzanetti: where are you trying to run autopilot? on a phone?
[16:19] <mzanetti> my desktop
[16:20] <robotfuel> mzanetti: that hasn't changed
[16:20] <mzanetti> well... it always runs the isntalled instance, not the one from the builddir
[16:20] <mzanetti> if I uninstall the installed one, it won't work at all any more
[16:22] <Saviq> mzanetti, ninja -C builddir install
[16:22] <Saviq> or well, make -C builldir install
[16:23] <Saviq> you need to have it installed *somewhere* (by default in builddir/install)
[16:23] <Saviq> and that's where autopilot will look for unity8
[16:29] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: see the CODING file
[16:30] <tsdgeos> you need to set PYTHONpATH too afair
[16:30] <mzanetti> doesn't fail on my desktop anyways
[16:31] <mzanetti> I guess we could just delete that test anyways... well, at least the open_scop_to_right is useless
[16:31] <mzanetti> as it just swipes the dash to the left
[16:31] <mzanetti> while the open_scop_to_left does the same, and additionally swipes it back
[16:31] <mzanetti> so one of them is definitely just a waste of time