[04:33] <inetpro> good mornings
[04:57] <Kilos> morning all
[05:42] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[05:42] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[05:56] <Kilos> hi Xethron ThatGraemeGuy 
[05:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :-)
[06:35] <Kilos> hi StonedAlchemist_ 
[06:51] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, you didnt pull in for kaaings
[06:52] <Kilos> i ate me dik
[06:52] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[07:08] <Squirm> morning
[07:10] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[07:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can send me some
[07:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> just not via SA post office, it'll never arrive
[07:14] <Kilos> haha via email?
[07:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, courier, i have no internet at home :P
[07:14] <Kilos> eish still
[07:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> yup, 4 weeks now
[07:15] <Kilos> thats a bad show on telkoms part
[07:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> telkom don't care about the customer, lets not pretend otherwise
[07:15] <Kilos> just now they will tell you they not replacing cables because of theft and offer you a free telkom mobile phone
[07:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> fat lot of good that will do
[07:16] <Kilos> are you in a far out area loike rural
[07:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm looking at wireless, so far the best option seems to be R549 for 2Mbps
[07:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> or 749 for 4Mbps
[07:16] <Kilos> wireless from where?
[07:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm on the urban edge
[07:18] <Kilos> make friends with all neighbours and local communities and let them collect for fibre
[07:18] <Kilos> some towns are doing that
[07:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Protea+Village,+Cape+Town/@-33.8898663,18.7175102,3739m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x1dcc53d6e5b470b9:0x51f1b2478df0f6b7
[07:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> protea village is where i am
[07:19] <Kilos> ah
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you look on that map where the words "protea village" are, i'm almost directly below the E in village
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> below "protea village" is an open green piece
[07:20] <Kilos> whew outside edge
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> and below that another green piece, which is a hill and i'm on the down slope of it
[07:20] <Kilos> where can you get wireless, are there towers close by
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> so all the WUG stuff is out of my sight
[07:21] <Kilos> eish
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> wireless from snowball internet, the tower i suspect is on a high hill to the southeast on that map
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> i need to contact them, but after payday only
[07:21] <Kilos> like me . the ptawug has wireless right past here to brits 
[07:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> installation cost is just under R3k
[07:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> why don't you get on the wug?
[07:22] <Kilos> but in this whole i gotta get expensive equipment to get them and they dont off internet
[07:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> not officially no :)
[07:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> but if you have a friend on the wug you could do a vpn thing
[07:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> but the wug as an organisation cannot sell internet access
[07:23] <Kilos> ive chatted to them some even offered to get ubuntu upgrades and isos for me once im on the wug
[07:24] <Kilos> there are quite a few ubuntu users in this wug
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah i am sure 1 or 2 are even mirroring repos
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think there are guys on ctwug that do
[07:24] <Kilos> ah
[07:25] <Kilos> if i had 3k id buy an i5 cpu for this pc
[07:25] <Kilos> 3k
[07:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> wtf really
[07:25] <Kilos> lol ya man
[07:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'd rather spend 3k on a laptop
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> no need to buy fancy hardware that sits idle for 99% of its life
[07:26] <Kilos> no dont like them with the mouse goody and battery charging and all that and screens too small
[07:27] <Kilos> using that pad thing as a mouse is something you must get used to
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah they should invent some way for you to plug in a regular mouse, that would make it a bit better
[07:28] <Kilos> oh but also im looking into telkom wireless atm, they have a hotspot just over 1k from here
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> and while they're at it, they can make a way for you to connect a nice big LCD to a laptop too
[07:28]  * ThatGraemeGuy runs
[07:29] <Kilos> lol
[08:00] <charl> good morning
[08:00] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:00]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:09] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:09] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[08:15] <magespawn> good morning all
[08:29] <charl> hi magespawn 
[08:29] <charl> hi Xethron, bduk 
[08:29] <charl> how are you all doing today
[08:30] <magespawn> hi charl
[08:30] <magespawn> Busy recovering a lodge network from a lightening strike.
[08:30] <charl> bah
[08:31] <magespawn> lots of fun
[08:35] <bduk> Lekker man lekker
[09:15] <Kilos> hi charl magespawn 
[09:15]  * Kilos been repairing fences that cut temselves at night
[09:25] <bushtech> lol
[09:27] <Kilos> 3 placesin the same span and 5 of the 9 wires cut
[09:27] <Kilos> swines
[09:45] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[09:52] <charl> hi Kilos 
[09:54] <gremble> o/
[09:55] <charl> hi gremble 
[09:56] <charl> any experiences with libressl yet ?
[09:56] <charl> openbsd 5,6 ships with it
[10:21] <gremble> I don't think I have ever used OpenBSD
[11:25] <magespawn> charl, just had a read over the Libressl wikipedia page, looks like they are making quick work so far
[11:54] <charl> yes indeed :D
[12:40] <Kilos> bushtech, last resort hey -f
[12:40] <Kilos> hehe
[12:41] <Kilos> i actually find it very useful with fsck -f /dev/sdb  and on externals
[12:42]  * Kilos hides from the pro
[12:51] <bushtech> after listening to the pro I'm a bit wary heh heh
[12:51] <bushtech> but I don't break things as well as you
[13:00] <Squirm> how is everyone?
[13:02] <superfly> Busy, how are you?
[13:10] <Squirm> superfly: quite well. enjoying the new job
[13:10] <Squirm> damn hot today too
[13:11] <superfly> just wait till Feb...
[13:12] <Squirm> yeah, I hear it's awesome then
[13:12] <Squirm> glad I work in an aircon'd office though
[13:12] <Squirm> will have to go for surfing lessons
[13:32] <Kilos> dit voel of dit wil kom storm later en reen hopelik
[13:33] <Kilos> Squirm, can you roller skate and ice skate?
[13:33] <Kilos> surfing is all about balance
[13:33] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[13:37] <superfly> hi Kilos
[13:38] <Squirm> Kilos: I can do that + water ski + wakeboard
[13:38] <Kilos> then youll find it easy man
[13:39] <Squirm> superfly: anything exciting happening in the area this weekend?
[13:39] <Squirm> Will go and have a look at the Volvo Ocean Race yachts at some point
[13:39] <superfly> Squirm: I don't know... I don't get out much, just going to the shops and back is outing enough with 3 kids
[14:19] <Squirm> superfly: fair enough
[14:40] <magespawn> chat later all
[14:54] <Squirm> oooh
[14:54] <Squirm> I have internet
[14:54] <Squirm> work pays for my 5Gb
[14:55] <Squirm> hope the MTN 3G reception is better than my vodacom
[15:07] <Kilos> boom boom power gone, 10 drops rain and power back
[15:20] <Kilos> nou jakkals en wolf gaan trou
[15:54] <Squirm> oooh
[15:54] <Squirm> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3891428532
[15:54] <Squirm> Kilos: that's my Portable AP speed
[15:54] <Kilos> lemme see
[15:54] <Squirm> Trixar_za: have a look too ^^
[15:55] <Squirm> Kilos: wait
[15:55] <Squirm> forget that
[15:55] <Squirm> look at this :P
[15:55] <Squirm> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3891436233
[15:55] <Kilos> thasts good speed
[15:55] <Squirm> That's amazing
[15:55] <Squirm> super speed!
[15:55] <Kilos> wow
[15:56] <Kilos> how did you get it so fast
[15:57] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[15:57] <Kilos> what broke
[15:58] <Squirm> Maaz: ?
[15:58] <Maaz> Squirm: Excuse me?
[15:58] <Squirm> Kilos: dunno
[15:58] <Squirm> must be better reception
[15:58] <Kilos> thats very good, 
[16:01] <Kilos> Squirm, lte?
[16:01] <Squirm> no, just 3G
[16:01] <Kilos> wow
[16:03] <Kilos> what modem Squirm ?
[16:03] <Kilos> whats a portable AP
[16:04] <Squirm> Mifi router
[16:05] <Kilos> ah
[16:05] <Squirm> huawei e5331s
[16:05] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[16:05] <Kilos> so that picks up a wifi signal?
[16:05] <somaunn> how are all the big UB bros today ?
[16:06] <Kilos> we all good ty and you
[16:06] <somaunn> someone tried out UB 14.10 ???
[16:06] <Kilos> some of the guys yes
[16:06] <somaunn> i'm like a fish in a water escaping from a fisherman .... lekker
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:08] <Squirm> Kilos: it creates a wireless hotspot. so I can connect up to 5 wireless devices to it
[16:08] <Kilos> cool
[16:11] <Kilos> and th incoming connection is adsl ?
[16:11] <Kilos> oh you said 3g
[16:11] <Kilos> very impressive
[16:12] <Kilos> what isp
[16:17] <Squirm> Afrihost
[16:18] <Kilos> oh same as graeme
[16:18] <Kilos> theymtn peeps i think
[16:18] <Squirm> yes
[16:19] <Squirm> I think it's the 5Gb deal. Want to speak to them and see if they can up it to 10Gb and I can pay the R200 difference
[16:19] <Squirm> 10Gb+10Gb
[16:20] <Squirm> Maaz: ?
[16:20] <Maaz> Squirm: *blink*
[16:21] <Kilos> price?
[16:21] <Kilos> oh you not paying for it
[16:21] <Squirm> like... R700 I think
[16:21] <Squirm> or R500
[16:21] <Squirm> but they're already paying about R300 for this deal, so I'll pay the difference
[16:22] <Kilos> ok
[16:22] <Kilos> thats nice of them thought
[16:22] <Kilos> normally home connecting is your prob
[16:22] <Squirm> it's meant for work, so I can connect externally
[16:23] <Kilos> so they say a
[16:23] <Squirm> but my boss explained that as I get more and more involved, it's priority is business. so until then, it's for me to be connected. he knows I had no internet
[16:23] <Kilos> sounds like a nice guy
[16:24] <Squirm> he is
[16:24] <Kilos> im happy for you lad
[16:24] <somaunn> how n
[16:25] <somaunn> Squirm: how many gig you get per month with afrihost ?
[16:25] <Squirm> somaunn: I THINK it's 5Gb+5Gb
[16:25] <Squirm> not 100% sure
[16:26] <Squirm> download speed up to 650Kb/s
[16:27] <Squirm> 950
[16:27] <Squirm> I could live with that :P
[16:28] <Kilos> ya you get an iso in under 20 mins
[16:31] <Squirm> I'm happy now :P
[16:31] <Squirm> just need to up my data
[16:31] <Squirm> then I'll actually be happy
[16:31] <somaunn> 5Gb Up + 5Gb Down right ?
[16:33] <Kilos> 5 after midnight
[16:34] <somaunn> On my side here my isp "Airtel" gives me 90Gb per month (3Gig download max per day) for R957,170
[16:34] <Squirm> somaunn: 5Gb from between 12am and about 7am
[16:34] <Squirm> to use monthly
[16:34] <somaunn> for a speed of 450Kb/s
[16:35] <Squirm> so 5Gb monthly, for normal daily use, then I can use the night surfer stuff to download other stuff late at night
[16:35] <Squirm> so if I get the 10Gb+10Gb, then that's awesome
[16:39] <somaunn> okay Squirm
[16:39] <somaunn> you still behind what i get because you get 20Gb for a month right ?
[17:01] <somaunn> guys i get this message "libpng12.so.0 is needed by teamviewer-10.0.35002-0.i686" trying to install teamviewer 10 beta
[17:02] <somaunn> i've done sudo yum install libpng12 but still i get the same message 
[17:02] <somaunn> do i need to log out then log in again ???
[17:07] <somaunn> no worries i got the answer
[17:10] <somaunn>   command to logout from user session?
[17:10] <somaunn> my plasma 5 freeze when i try to add a software as favorite
[17:13] <Squirm> ctrl+d
[17:14] <Squirm> or exit
[17:14] <Squirm> on command line?
[17:14] <somaunn> from kterm  i mean
[17:20] <Kilos> ai! power again
[17:24] <Squirm> lol
[17:35] <Kilos> nou reen dit ietwat
[18:36] <inetpro> good evening
[18:42] <Kilos> evening inetpro 
[18:42] <Kilos> 2mm
[18:42] <Kilos> baie storm en 2 keer krag af
[18:42] <inetpro> not sure how much here, too tired to go look
[18:43] <Kilos> ai! go sleep man
[18:45] <Kilos> oh inetpro i asked is hangouts on tablets with gmail accounts the same hangouts as g+
[18:45] <Kilos> no one told me
[18:45] <inetpro> ai!
[18:45] <Kilos> i ask because my sister can chat to me in my pidgin
[18:46] <inetpro> and?
[18:46] <Kilos> and if its same then i can join the peeps like vince on hangouts but only use text
[18:46] <gremble> Yes
[18:47] <gremble> It is Kilos 
[18:47] <inetpro> it's all googly
[18:47] <gremble> Hangouts uses your gmail account
[18:47] <gremble> like pidgin does
[18:47] <Kilos> cool ty
[18:47] <gremble> np
[18:47] <Kilos> so i can text them when they hangout
[18:47] <gremble> You know how to set it up?
[18:47] <Kilos> set what up?
[18:47] <gremble> If they have hangouts on a smartphone, you can send them a message anytime
[18:48] <gremble> pidgin to chat on gtalk/hangouts
[18:48] <Kilos> is there more to setting it up than just adding an xmpp account?
[18:49] <gremble> Oh. Nope
[18:49] <gremble> Then you know
[18:49] <gremble> :P
[18:49] <Kilos> lol yeah i know pidgin quite well thanks to the pro
[18:49] <Kilos> can even do otr
[18:50] <Kilos> pidgin rocks
[18:56] <Kilos> inetpro, as jy gaan slaap se so
[18:59] <inetpro> uh
[18:59] <inetpro> ok oom
[19:03] <Kilos> lunch time tumbleweed enjoy
[19:04] <Kilos> hope they got good food there
[19:09] <tumbleweed> not quite, yet
[19:09] <tumbleweed> yeah, food here is good
[19:09] <inetpro> where are you tumbleweed?
[19:10] <inetpro> SF?
[19:10] <tumbleweed> yep
[19:10] <tumbleweed> just got my permanent apartment keys this morning
[19:10] <inetpro> nice
[19:10] <Kilos> there where they eat silicon steaks
[19:13] <inetpro> Kilos: you think that meat can taste as good as ours? I doubt
[19:14] <Kilos> never
[19:14] <Kilos> we got the best
[19:14] <Kilos> over there all beef grows up on genetically modified grain
[19:27] <inetpro> good night
[19:27] <Kilos> night inetpro slepp lekker
[19:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:28] <Kilos> sleep too
[20:35] <Squirm> evening