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deltoops09:01
deltwhat did my quit say?09:01
Unit193[03:57:39] delt (1000@64.18.182.14) has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)09:01
deltah thanks09:01
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deltquestion... how come the file manager shows /usr/bin/xfce4-* as shared libaries (blank page icon) and doesn't let me run them directly (pops up "open with..." dialog) instead of regular binaries?13:29
deltfrom a terminal, as far as i can see they're normal binaries (with ls, file, etc...) ????13:29
holsteindelt: what are you trying to run? you should be able to call the command to run whatever you need16:38
deltholstein: just out of curiosity... double click on16:39
deltholstein: just out of curiosity... double click on "file system", then usr then bin, you should see your /usr/bin (duh)16:39
deltthen scroll down to xfce-* files16:39
delttry to double click on, say, xfce4-terminal16:40
deltit asks you what app you want to use to open the file16:40
delt[pts/19][user@phobos]:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal16:40
delt-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 186720 Jan 11  2014 /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal16:40
holsteinwhat are you trying to do?16:40
delt/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal: ELF 64-bit LSB  shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=c893ee5fdf55fa8fb5a5a30c803a8f5a92171488, stripped16:40
delttrying to figure out why double clicking on, say, xfce4-terminal doesn't launch a terminal window16:41
deltas if i ran xfce4-terminal from another terminal, or from the alt+f2 box16:41
deltof course there's the xfce4-terminal.wrapper file (appears to be a perl script) which i have no idea why it's needed16:44
deltjust trying to understand :)16:44
holsteinsure16:44
holsteini might go to a linux channel, or #ubuntu, or a general mailing list for that16:44
holsteini just know how to lauch the software i need16:45
deltyeah, seems to be specific to ubuntu.... i don't recall it being this way in slackware - but then again, that was an earlier version of xfce16:45
holsteinim sure there are live CD's for slackware.. you can compare there what is going on16:46
holsteinthe "permissions" of those files are not "click and run"16:46
delt-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151608 May 19  2013 /slack/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal16:46
holsteinthey are not in the /users/home16:46
delt/slack/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 3.2.29, stripped16:47
holsteinwhen you just click on them, you are not necessarily allowed to get to them on that level16:47
deltlevel....?16:47
holsteindelt: right16:47
holsteindelt: you are a normal user. and you are clicking on a system file16:47
holsteindelt: its not executable to your user, or in your /home16:47
holsteinit *could* be that simple16:47
deltexactly. the same way i'd be running the same system file by typing its name16:47
holsteindelt: i dont think it *is* the same16:48
deltwhen i double click on /usr/bin/xterm i get a xterm window, as expected....16:48
holsteindelt: when you "type its name", its in the "path" of bash, as i understand it16:48
deltexactly. i just manually went to that path (/usr/bin) in the file manager16:48
holsteindelt: all i can say is, if this is isolated to an issue with xfce terminal, try #xubuntu, or an xfce channel or list16:48
holsteinwe dont deal with the plumbing like that here16:49
holsteinit could be a bug, or misconfiguration.. or breakage..16:49
holsteinor a "feature"16:49
deltyeah, i'll ask in #ubuntu and #xfce ...not sure which would be the best place of the two16:50
deltoh btw... what's the difference between alsa modular synth and amsynth?16:53
holsteini thought it was the same.. http://www.amsynth.com/alsamodularsynth.html17:23
caba_Hello, sorry I'm not a native speaker18:34
caba_I'll try to be exact18:34
caba_ok, I have install timidity++18:35
caba_And I use it because I need midi channels18:36
caba_Well it works fine but all the rest applications don't work18:37
caba_For example18:38
caba_If I use timidity ports on Band in a Box that runs over wine18:38
caba_youtube don't work18:38
caba_or audacious don't work18:38
caba_and all application that sounds, don't work18:39
caba_this is my problem18:39
caba_Should I see this problem on another channel?18:50
caba_bye19:01
caboose885caba_, it sometimes takes people some time to respond19:01
caba_ok19:01
caboose885Be patient if you have the time. Or ask on the ubuntuforums19:01
caba_ok, I'll be patient19:02
caboose885If no one responds I would advise you post: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33519:02
caba_oh thanks a lot19:03
caboose885no worries. Sorry I can't be of more help19:09
caba_well, I have to go, thanks caboose88519:10
caba_byt19:10
caba_bye*19:10

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