[09:01] oops [09:01] what did my quit say? [09:01] [03:57:39] delt (1000@64.18.182.14) has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) [09:01] ah thanks === matthew is now known as Guest41651 [13:29] question... how come the file manager shows /usr/bin/xfce4-* as shared libaries (blank page icon) and doesn't let me run them directly (pops up "open with..." dialog) instead of regular binaries? [13:29] from a terminal, as far as i can see they're normal binaries (with ls, file, etc...) ???? [16:38] delt: what are you trying to run? you should be able to call the command to run whatever you need [16:39] holstein: just out of curiosity... double click on [16:39] holstein: just out of curiosity... double click on "file system", then usr then bin, you should see your /usr/bin (duh) [16:39] then scroll down to xfce-* files [16:40] try to double click on, say, xfce4-terminal [16:40] it asks you what app you want to use to open the file [16:40] [pts/19][user@phobos]:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal [16:40] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 186720 Jan 11 2014 /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal [16:40] what are you trying to do? [16:40] /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=c893ee5fdf55fa8fb5a5a30c803a8f5a92171488, stripped [16:41] trying to figure out why double clicking on, say, xfce4-terminal doesn't launch a terminal window [16:41] as if i ran xfce4-terminal from another terminal, or from the alt+f2 box [16:44] of course there's the xfce4-terminal.wrapper file (appears to be a perl script) which i have no idea why it's needed [16:44] just trying to understand :) [16:44] sure [16:44] i might go to a linux channel, or #ubuntu, or a general mailing list for that [16:45] i just know how to lauch the software i need [16:45] yeah, seems to be specific to ubuntu.... i don't recall it being this way in slackware - but then again, that was an earlier version of xfce [16:46] im sure there are live CD's for slackware.. you can compare there what is going on [16:46] the "permissions" of those files are not "click and run" [16:46] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151608 May 19 2013 /slack/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal [16:46] they are not in the /users/home [16:47] /slack/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 3.2.29, stripped [16:47] when you just click on them, you are not necessarily allowed to get to them on that level [16:47] level....? [16:47] delt: right [16:47] delt: you are a normal user. and you are clicking on a system file [16:47] delt: its not executable to your user, or in your /home [16:47] it *could* be that simple [16:47] exactly. the same way i'd be running the same system file by typing its name [16:48] delt: i dont think it *is* the same [16:48] when i double click on /usr/bin/xterm i get a xterm window, as expected.... [16:48] delt: when you "type its name", its in the "path" of bash, as i understand it [16:48] exactly. i just manually went to that path (/usr/bin) in the file manager [16:48] delt: all i can say is, if this is isolated to an issue with xfce terminal, try #xubuntu, or an xfce channel or list [16:49] we dont deal with the plumbing like that here [16:49] it could be a bug, or misconfiguration.. or breakage.. [16:49] or a "feature" [16:50] yeah, i'll ask in #ubuntu and #xfce ...not sure which would be the best place of the two [16:53] oh btw... what's the difference between alsa modular synth and amsynth? [17:23] i thought it was the same.. http://www.amsynth.com/alsamodularsynth.html [18:34] Hello, sorry I'm not a native speaker [18:34] I'll try to be exact [18:35] ok, I have install timidity++ [18:36] And I use it because I need midi channels [18:37] Well it works fine but all the rest applications don't work [18:38] For example [18:38] If I use timidity ports on Band in a Box that runs over wine [18:38] youtube don't work [18:38] or audacious don't work [18:39] and all application that sounds, don't work [18:39] this is my problem [18:50] Should I see this problem on another channel? [19:01] bye [19:01] caba_, it sometimes takes people some time to respond [19:01] ok [19:01] Be patient if you have the time. Or ask on the ubuntuforums [19:02] ok, I'll be patient [19:02] If no one responds I would advise you post: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=335 [19:03] oh thanks a lot [19:09] no worries. Sorry I can't be of more help [19:10] well, I have to go, thanks caboose885 [19:10] byt [19:10] bye*