[09:01] <delt> oops
[09:01] <delt> what did my quit say?
[09:01] <Unit193> [03:57:39] delt (1000@64.18.182.14) has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
[09:01] <delt> ah thanks
[13:29] <delt> question... how come the file manager shows /usr/bin/xfce4-* as shared libaries (blank page icon) and doesn't let me run them directly (pops up "open with..." dialog) instead of regular binaries?
[13:29] <delt> from a terminal, as far as i can see they're normal binaries (with ls, file, etc...) ????
[16:38] <holstein> delt: what are you trying to run? you should be able to call the command to run whatever you need
[16:39] <delt> holstein: just out of curiosity... double click on
[16:39] <delt> holstein: just out of curiosity... double click on "file system", then usr then bin, you should see your /usr/bin (duh)
[16:39] <delt> then scroll down to xfce-* files
[16:40] <delt> try to double click on, say, xfce4-terminal
[16:40] <delt> it asks you what app you want to use to open the file
[16:40] <delt> [pts/19][user@phobos]:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal
[16:40] <delt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 186720 Jan 11  2014 /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal
[16:40] <holstein> what are you trying to do?
[16:40] <delt> /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal: ELF 64-bit LSB  shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=c893ee5fdf55fa8fb5a5a30c803a8f5a92171488, stripped
[16:41] <delt> trying to figure out why double clicking on, say, xfce4-terminal doesn't launch a terminal window
[16:41] <delt> as if i ran xfce4-terminal from another terminal, or from the alt+f2 box
[16:44] <delt> of course there's the xfce4-terminal.wrapper file (appears to be a perl script) which i have no idea why it's needed
[16:44] <delt> just trying to understand :)
[16:44] <holstein> sure
[16:44] <holstein> i might go to a linux channel, or #ubuntu, or a general mailing list for that
[16:45] <holstein> i just know how to lauch the software i need
[16:45] <delt> yeah, seems to be specific to ubuntu.... i don't recall it being this way in slackware - but then again, that was an earlier version of xfce
[16:46] <holstein> im sure there are live CD's for slackware.. you can compare there what is going on
[16:46] <holstein> the "permissions" of those files are not "click and run"
[16:46] <delt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151608 May 19  2013 /slack/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal
[16:46] <holstein> they are not in the /users/home
[16:47] <delt> /slack/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 3.2.29, stripped
[16:47] <holstein> when you just click on them, you are not necessarily allowed to get to them on that level
[16:47] <delt> level....?
[16:47] <holstein> delt: right
[16:47] <holstein> delt: you are a normal user. and you are clicking on a system file
[16:47] <holstein> delt: its not executable to your user, or in your /home
[16:47] <holstein> it *could* be that simple
[16:47] <delt> exactly. the same way i'd be running the same system file by typing its name
[16:48] <holstein> delt: i dont think it *is* the same
[16:48] <delt> when i double click on /usr/bin/xterm i get a xterm window, as expected....
[16:48] <holstein> delt: when you "type its name", its in the "path" of bash, as i understand it
[16:48] <delt> exactly. i just manually went to that path (/usr/bin) in the file manager
[16:48] <holstein> delt: all i can say is, if this is isolated to an issue with xfce terminal, try #xubuntu, or an xfce channel or list
[16:49] <holstein> we dont deal with the plumbing like that here
[16:49] <holstein> it could be a bug, or misconfiguration.. or breakage..
[16:49] <holstein> or a "feature"
[16:50] <delt> yeah, i'll ask in #ubuntu and #xfce ...not sure which would be the best place of the two
[16:53] <delt> oh btw... what's the difference between alsa modular synth and amsynth?
[17:23] <holstein> i thought it was the same.. http://www.amsynth.com/alsamodularsynth.html
[18:34] <caba_> Hello, sorry I'm not a native speaker
[18:34] <caba_> I'll try to be exact
[18:35] <caba_> ok, I have install timidity++
[18:36] <caba_> And I use it because I need midi channels
[18:37] <caba_> Well it works fine but all the rest applications don't work
[18:38] <caba_> For example
[18:38] <caba_> If I use timidity ports on Band in a Box that runs over wine
[18:38] <caba_> youtube don't work
[18:38] <caba_> or audacious don't work
[18:39] <caba_> and all application that sounds, don't work
[18:39] <caba_> this is my problem
[18:50] <caba_> Should I see this problem on another channel?
[19:01] <caba_> bye
[19:01] <caboose885> caba_, it sometimes takes people some time to respond
[19:01] <caba_> ok
[19:01] <caboose885> Be patient if you have the time. Or ask on the ubuntuforums
[19:02] <caba_> ok, I'll be patient
[19:02] <caboose885> If no one responds I would advise you post: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=335
[19:03] <caba_> oh thanks a lot
[19:09] <caboose885> no worries. Sorry I can't be of more help
[19:10] <caba_> well, I have to go, thanks caboose885
[19:10] <caba_> byt
[19:10] <caba_> bye*