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tootheI just installed kubuntu-desktop, but don't want all the extra packages that came with it.00:57
tootheso, I want to remove libre and all the others00:57
tootheIs there a way I can completely remove kubuntu-desktop and its associated packages, and reinstall it?00:57
toothewhen I do apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, only 1 package is removed - but about 40+ others just installed over 30 minutes00:57
bprompthmm00:58
bprompttoothe:     did you do an "autoremove" yet?00:59
tootheyes...01:00
toothenada...01:00
tootheshort of reinstalling the entire OS, I can't think of what to do...01:00
bpromptusually    some of the 40+ packages were upgrades..... not actual additions...usually.. and thus they do not get removed because some other app was using them to begin with01:01
tootheperhaps...01:02
ildefonsotoothe, tbh, I am not sure you can do that automatically (however, it should be possible)... if you really want to do that, you may just use "aptitude", and manually remove the packages you don't want.01:11
yoryorWhat is the difference between...01:42
rom1504yes02:01
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lordievaderGood morning.09:44
jdwwattsok any idea how you load a iso desktop to a flash drive usb stick so the toshiba lap top can see a bootable img09:49
lordievaderjdwwatts: Unetbootin ;)09:52
jdwwattsnotsure what that means09:54
lordievaderjdwwatts: It is a program for creating live-usb sticks.09:56
jdwwattsok09:57
jdwwattsright now i experienced a horendous lockup hard drive erasing update in red hat on this computer and now it wont even install packages after the update failed10:00
lordievaderjdwwatts: You are aware this is Kubuntu support and not RedHat support?10:01
jdwwattsso i want to put kbuntu on it instead10:01
jdwwattsyes10:01
jdwwattsbecause i want to install kbuntu on it10:02
lordievader!info linux-image-generic12:03
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0.24.25 (utopic), package size 2 kB, installed size 28 kB12:03
lordievaderHihi 3.16 is EOL: kernel.org12:03
lordievader!info linux-image-generic vivid12:04
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0.24.25 (vivid), package size 2 kB, installed size 28 kB12:04
MoonUnit`went back to 14.04 today, playing back some videos killed the pc, didn't seem to matter which kernel i used.12:23
lordievaderMoonUnit`: Could you be more descriptive? 'killed the pc'?12:24
MoonUnit`vlc/smplayer video window went green then the screen died then came back with odd colours, no keyboard or mouse and couldn't ssh in to see the logs12:26
lordievaderMoonUnit`: What card/driver?12:28
MoonUnit`tried 3.16 through 3.17 and 3.18-rc kernels, didn't seem to change anything.12:28
MoonUnit`HD6970 using r600 opensource driver.12:28
lordievaderUtopic?12:29
MoonUnit`yes12:29
lordievaderMoonUnit`: Ok, did you try the closed source driver?12:29
MoonUnit`no12:30
lordievaderMoonUnit`: Try it ;)12:30
MoonUnit`no :)12:30
MoonUnit`i'll stick with LTS, didn't gain much with 14.10 anyway.12:30
lordievaderWhy not?12:31
MoonUnit`opensource driver suits me fine, don't have to worry about installing a new kernel and having dkms problems12:32
lordievaderYou could at least try it to see if the problem persists with that driver.12:34
MoonUnit`already setup trusty again, not going to waste anymore time on it.12:34
BluesKajhowdy13:37
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norman_hello14:08
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murthylordievader: Yesterday you asked me to create a bug report even though I told you it could be a marked as a duplicate, so created one yesterday, now its marked as duplicate and I feel fooled15:12
lordievadermurthy: Hehe, oh well. Odd though that it is marked as a duplicate. Is it marked a duplicate of valorie's bug?15:13
murthyhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34074715:14
ubottuKDE bug 340747 in Wired "Network manager does not automatically connected to network even when the option to do the same is already checked" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]15:14
lordievadermurthy: This is a different bug (the source) from the one that was discussed yesterday?15:15
murthylordievader: now you speak logic, why didn't you ask me to check for duplicate yesterday15:16
murthylordievader:  valorie, specifically told there where many similar reports15:17
lordievadermurthy: Err, I thought that was one of the steps. Besides it was late ;). But having a bug report marked duplicate does not matter, be glad that you filed a bug ;)15:18
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murthylordievader: I can understand about the need for bug reporting and I know it was an odd hour. The thing is the bug squad and the devs are suffering because of this. I like bug reporting and I dont mind the report marked as duplicate unless it affects the devs.15:22
lordievadermurthy: True, it is good pratice to check for duplicate bug reports before filing a new one ;)15:24
murthylordievader: We are agreed then. I hope you are not feeling bad about me15:25
lordievadermurthy: Why should I?15:25
murthylordievader: for wasting your time, when you could be helping others :)15:26
lordievadermurthy: Hehe, you didn't waste my time ;)15:27
murthylordievader: thank you, see you later15:28
lordievadermurthy: Talk to you later ;)15:28
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renzorzonshola una consulta es recomendable actualizar kde 4.13 a kde4.14 en kubuntu 14.0416:32
lordievader!es | renzorzons16:36
ubotturenzorzons: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:36
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MrS1lentczhello folks, I have new installed kubuntu on i7 haswell with nvidia 840 graphic card. I have installed nvidia-current and reboot os, but x-server was not started. any ideas? i am in terminal mode there...18:08
BluesKaj_MrS1lentcz, there is no nvidia-current driver on 14.10. Try removing it since it's most likely an old driver and rebooting into kubuntu .Then oppen system settings and choose the driver manager, from there choose the recommended nvidia driver18:14
BluesKaj_rebooting = reboot18:15
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: driver manager was empty so i tried install nvidia-current..18:16
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: is the way, how can i fix xorg.conf.d automatically for intel graphics?18:17
MrS1lentcznow it references to nvidia...18:18
BluesKaj_remove nvidia current anyway since it's old and not suitable, once back in kubuntu you will be on the the default nouveau driver, update and upgrade with apt-get18:18
BluesKaj_MrS1lentcz, no need for xorg.conf18:18
BluesKaj_just make sure the bios/uefi is using the nvidia graphics18:19
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: i cannot update repository if i am in terminal mode without using wifi connection manager18:20
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: so does exist any things what can i to do for startkde ?18:21
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: because it's in dead state, i can reinstall it only :/18:22
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BluesKaj_MrS1lentcz, you need to be connected to the internet in  order to update/upgrade, try an etherenet connection if available, otherwise your install can't be finished properly18:22
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: i am not linux guru, i dont know how can i to do without x-server from terminal mode18:23
MrS1lentcz:(18:23
BluesKaj_are you familiar with apt-get commands in the terminal ?18:24
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: no, but i am familiar for using wifi manager from terminal18:25
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maysaraHi, baloo is using the processor which makes the fan works all the time and it's annoying. What can I do other than disabling desktop search?18:27
BluesKaj_MrS1lentcz, run this in the terminal, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current , then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then, startx18:27
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: nvidia-current is removed, but i have no active internet connection18:28
BluesKaj_maysara, afaik baloo on ly runs for a couplr minutes atfter bootup18:28
MrS1lentczapt-get reports "url" cannot be resolved18:28
MrS1lentczi dot know how can i connect to wifi router without manager from terminal, do you understand? :( aptitude is easy for using18:29
BluesKaj_MrS1lentcz, you have no access to an ethernet connection, even just temporarily ?18:30
BluesKaj_just connect ot the ethernet on thje router, you won't need a network manager for that18:31
BluesKaj_ot=to18:31
maysaraBluesKaj_: I'm using the laptop for 5 hours now and baloo is running since then.18:31
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: I have not utp cable here :/18:32
BluesKaj_maysara, it shouldn't be unless you'ew letting it index your whole install18:32
MrS1lentczBluesKaj_: i have solved this... i changed "nvidia" option with "intel" in xorg.conf... thank you for your time18:34
BluesKaj_that's your choice, than after upgrading you can open the driver manager and choose the nvidia recommended driver18:36
BluesKaj_than=then18:36
Philliesim having some problems getting my connection to vpn to work on kubuntu 14.10 since upgrading not sure waht the problem is   same info   it says it connected by no traffic at all   not sure what the problem is at all not sure where to ask for help :/18:42
Philliesbut18:42
BluesKaj_Phillies, are your vpn servers listed in network manager?. if not you may have to reinstall your client and server software18:44
Philliesyeah i redid the server info and it says it connects but no sites work18:45
BluesKaj_Phillies, which vpn ptotocol ?18:47
BluesKaj_err rotocol rather18:47
BluesKaj_anyway, is it openvpn ?18:49
BluesKaj_Phillies, ^18:50
Philliesyeah openvpn sorry19:19
Philliesusing privateinternetaccess provider19:19
Phillieshttps://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/#ubuntu_openvpn_installer    followed this pretty much the instructions for ubuntu19:21
Philliesslighty diffrent cause its 14.10 but whatever essentially the same19:21
lordievaderPhillies: What exactly doesn't work?19:22
renzorzonshello is recommended to install kde 4.14 en kubuntu 14.04??19:22
Philliesi enter in all the vpn info      click connect it says it conencts   but no traffic while it says this19:22
Philliesthe net doesnt work again until i disconnect from vpn19:22
lordievaderPhillies: Could you give the output of 'ip r' before you connect to the vpn and while you are connected to the vpn?19:23
lordievader!paste | Phillies19:24
ubottuPhillies: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:24
Philliessure thanks 1 sec19:25
Phillieshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8888790/19:26
Phillieshttps://i.imgur.com/tLIUDNn.jpg19:27
lordievaderPhillies: I get the feeling that the default gateway is wrong when the vpn connection is live.19:28
lordievaderPhillies: Could you run "sudo ip r del default&&sudo ip r add default via 10.191.93.1 dev tun0 proto static" while connected to the vpn?19:30
Phillies1 sec thanks19:48
PhilliesRTNETLINK answers: No such process19:50
PhilliesRTNETLINK answers: No such process19:50
PhilliesRTNETLINK answers: No such process19:51
Philliesdunno if that wprked   connection issues19:51
MrS1lentczso, what is the best practice for install nvidia drivers?19:57
MrS1lentczdownload latest "run" file from nvidia official site?19:58
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: no19:59
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: apt-get install nvidia-current19:59
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: if you have an recent card19:59
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: command "apt-get install nvidia-current" is the reason why I had to reinstall my new system20:00
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: "(19:08:33) MrS1lentcz: hello folks, I have new installed kubuntu on i7 haswell with nvidia 840 graphic card. I have installed nvidia-current and reboot os, but x-server was not started. any ideas? i am in terminal mode there..."20:00
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: maybe it is better to use nouveau20:01
lfrlucasWhat is your card20:01
MrS1lentczGF 840M20:01
MrS1lentczkubuntu 14.1020:01
lfrlucaskde 4?20:02
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: i dont know which kde version is in 14.10, wait20:02
lfrlucasi think there are two versions of kubuntu 14.1020:03
lfrlucasone of them brings the unstable kde 520:03
lfrlucasis your laptop new?20:03
lfrlucasor computer20:03
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: laptop20:04
MrS1lentczoh, new :D20:04
lfrlucashmm20:04
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: how can i find which kde version i have, please?20:05
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lfrlucasopen any kde app20:05
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lfrlucaslike dophin20:05
Philliessystem settings20:06
lfrlucasgo toa about20:06
lfrlucasAbout kde20:06
Philliesabut system20:06
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: 4.8.620:06
lfrlucaschose About KDE20:06
lfrlucasnot the other about20:07
MrS1lentczkde4-config -v is relevant?20:07
lfrlucas4.8.6 is qt version20:07
MrS1lentczok, mmt20:08
lfrlucasthat command should say kde version20:08
lfrlucasya, you are using the stable kde 420:08
MrS1lentcz4.14.120:08
lfrlucasya20:08
lfrlucasi don't know why nvidia-current is failing20:08
lfrlucasyou should find other guys with the same card20:09
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: it set "nvidia" value to Screen 0 and it fails on it20:09
MrS1lentczin xorg.conf20:09
lfrlucasyou shouldn't touch in that file20:09
lfrlucasapt-get does it20:09
lfrlucaswhen you install nvidia20:10
MrS1lentczif i set "intel" value, run "init 5" and startx, it works, but KWallet needed some password every click-up the dialog20:10
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: i touched only when xserver not boot20:10
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: so i had press "ctrl alt F1" and trying repair it20:11
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: but it was so unstable so i have to reinstall whole os20:12
MrS1lentczand now you are saying i have to do the same :/20:12
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: can be a trouble if i am using external monitor as main single screen?20:13
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lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: maybe20:17
lfrlucasyou should install and try it first without external monitors20:18
lfrlucasI would recomment kubuntu 14.0420:18
lfrlucasit will be suported for several years20:19
lfrlucas and you can keep kde updated in kubuntu 14.04 by adding a specific PPA20:19
bprompthmmm I run 12.04  just fine.... though I use an intel videocard20:20
bpromptMrS1lentcz:      doens't nvidia have a drivers download?20:21
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: bprompt I have installed nvidia-current but in nvidia x server settings i have only two options20:33
bpromptbleh20:33
MrS1lentcznothing about any card20:33
MrS1lentczapplication profiles and nvidia-settings configuration20:33
lfrlucasnvidia has drivers to download, but i do not recomend, because kubuntu cannot update it then20:34
bprompt_hmm     no need... nvidia would update them... thus20:35
bprompt_I recall using them in SuSE 9.2   in kde... they worked very well..... and the screen blanked out at first....  I think it was a setting in the nvidia-settings20:36
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: the same problem... black screen during booting :/20:36
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MrS1lentczthe third reinstall for today....20:43
MrS1lentczcan anyone help me using team viewer? :)20:45
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: if I used notebook original monitor only and installed not current, but nvidia-343, i see driver in diver manager for first of day! :))21:10
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: successfully done :)21:16
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: hmmm21:20
lfrlucasYou reinstal system every time it fails?21:21
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: You could just remove nvidia curretn21:21
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: yes :D21:23
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: i have not installed nvidia-current21:23
lfrlucasbut you don't need to reinstall kubuntu every time something goes wrong21:24
lfrlucasjust search the solution21:24
MrS1lentczbut I am confused now, what is better for switching graphic cards? i heard about bumblebee but from 14.04 is offered nvidia-prime, so ... any expierences, please?21:25
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: i know, but what can I to do if system not booted?21:25
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: You can try Ctrl-Alt-F121:26
lfrlucasto change to console login21:26
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: and if i run "sudo init 5" and "startx /usr/bin/startkde" so kwallet reports bug every click-up the dialog ?21:26
MrS1lentczno chance21:27
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: with console login you could remove nvidia-current21:28
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: yeah i done it21:29
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: but there is broken xorg.conf where is nvidia defined21:30
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: If you search the driver for your card in http://www.geforce.com/drivers , the 343 is the last supported. Maybe, that is the reason why nvidia-current doesn't work, and nvidia 343 does21:30
MrS1lentczif I repaired it and run xsever, kwallet fails so i was offline and kwallet bombed me with never closed dialog window21:31
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lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: hmmm, I'm not aware of that problem. but you could reset kwallet removing its configs in your home21:32
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: after reboot wrong xorg settings were back21:32
MrS1lentczlfrlucas: i did it too :)21:32
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: I think that xorg.conf should not exist. Nouveau (the open source nvidia driver) configures X automatically21:33
lfrlucasyou should remove xorg when using nouveau.21:33
lfrlucasMrS1lentcz: But now it's ok21:33
lfrlucasIf you nvidia-343 works don't modify xorg.conf21:34
lordievaderPhillies: I was away from keyboard, what is the current status?21:47
PhilliesRTNETLINK answers: No such process      ;   lordievader22:03
Philliessorry i was afk22:03
Moter8http://i.imgur.com/rVezAAr.png22:05
Moter8Aaaahhhhhhhhh!22:05
lordievaderPhillies: On which one exactly the deleting part or the adding part?22:07
Phillieswhen i ran the command that was the output22:09
* Moter8 is about to pull out some hair22:09
Philliessudo ip r del default&&sudo ip r add default via 10.191.93.1 dev tun0 proto static22:09
lordievaderMoter8: Calm down, grab a coffee or a beer or something ;)22:11
Moter8:> sure22:11
Moter8Already drinking some tee. Coffee is no good.22:12
lordievaderPhillies: I know it is a two parter. Could you give me your current22:12
lordievaderPhillies: Your current 'ip r' output*22:12
Phillies192.168.0.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.2  metric 922:14
lordievaderPhillies: Is the default gateway gone?22:15
Philliesnot sure what you mean sorry im not the greatest with nix and this stuff :/22:16
renzorzonshello is recommended to install kde 4.14 en kubuntu 14.04??\22:16
lordievaderPhillies: Is that line all the output?22:19
Moter8Grr these language packs.22:24
Moter8Always having issues with ubuntu mirrors.22:24
Philliesyeah it is22:27
Philliesthats all of it22:27
Philliessorry laptop died wasnt plugged in22:27
lordievaderPhillies: Hmm, then all I've managed to do was nuke your default gateway...: sudo ip r add default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlan022:28
lordievaderPhillies: After that you should be able to ping, say, 8.8.8.8 again.22:28
Phillieshmmm22:29
Philliesmussolini@MediaServer:~$ ip r22:29
Philliesdefault via 192.168.0.1 dev wlan0  proto static22:29
Phillies192.168.0.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.2  metric 922:29
Philliesmussolini@MediaServer:~$22:29
Philliesafter reboot22:30
lordievaderPhillies: Yeah that does it too ;)22:30
Philliesill try this vpn again22:30
Philliesi dunno what the issue is22:30
lordievaderPhillies: Okay, could you connect to the vpn again and get the output of ip r again?22:30
Phillies1 sec my buddy wrote some shit for me22:31
Phillieshe thinks its gonna work22:31
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* lordievader still thinks the default gw of the vpn is broken.22:32
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