[01:01] <k1l> guess what: inerkick is back again with his update issue with 12.10
[01:11] <bazhang> super
[01:54] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> What is the problem?
[01:55] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> cannot send to #ubuntu
[01:55] <HFSPLUS> am i still banned from ubuntu rooms even though i retired?
[01:55] <HFSPLUS> from trolling
[01:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> All of the agreements morphed.
[01:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> This is what the webe's do.
[02:00] <HFSPLUS> rww, surprised? i havent trolled any *buntu channels in a week
[02:00] <HFSPLUS> bazhang, surprised i havent said noo waa in a week ethier
[02:00] <HFSPLUS> ha, i retired from trolling and spreading the gospel of christ
[02:00] <HFSPLUS> now someone tell me if i enter an ubuntu channel am i banned? if i get banned in an ubuntu channel i wont waste my time
[02:00] <HFSPLUS> i know i will test the waters now
[02:01] <HFSPLUS> phunyguy, i see i am still permabanned from ubuntu rooms
[02:01] <phunyguy> was there any doubt?
[02:02] <HFSPLUS> yes
[02:02] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: let me take a look
[02:03] <HFSPLUS> rww	@mark #ubuntu-ops HFSPLUS retired for trolling 4evah
[02:03] <HFSPLUS> look at the logs
[02:03] <HFSPLUS> phunyguy, so am i banned yes or no
[02:03] <HFSPLUS> just tell me so i wont waste time
[02:03] <HFSPLUS> and leave
[02:03] <phunyguy> I quieted you before you said anything hurtful.
[02:03] <phunyguy> that's all
[02:03] <phunyguy> HFSPLUS: ^
[02:03] <HFSPLUS> phunyguy, so if i enter anothor room will you quiet me?
[02:03] <HFSPLUS> yes or no so i wont waste time
[02:04] <HFSPLUS> i wouldnt have said anything bad
[02:05] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: what error are you getting in the channel?  I am trying to find an entry for you
[02:07] <phunyguy> HFSPLUS: your behavior in other channels we are in (aside from ubuntu) is less than ideal.  You are not retired from trolling.  So just stop.
[02:08] <HFSPLUS> phunyguy, whatever man
[02:08] <HFSPLUS> phunyguy, may i recommend
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> thi
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> s
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel mark 1:15
[02:09] <phunyguy> thought so.
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> repent and believe in jesus christ and you will have eternal life
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> dude
[02:09] <popey> please can we remove this lunatic?
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> i just dont care about trolling anymore
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> popey, and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”
[02:09] <phunyguy> I am not an op here
[02:09] <phunyguy> or I would :(
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> i dont care anymore
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> there is nothing more important than repenting and beleiving in jesus christ
[02:09] <Flannel> HFSPLUS: #ubuntu channels are not a place for religious soapboxing.  Please take it elsewhere (although I'm not sure where).
[02:09] <HFSPLUS> this life is temporary
[02:10] <HFSPLUS> eternal fire or eternal life
[02:10] <HFSPLUS> jesus says most go to hell and few to heaven
[02:10] <popey> cool story bro
[02:10] <HFSPLUS> there is an afterlife and you will be screaming when you die and find yourself in hell
[02:10] <HFSPLUS> go ahead laugh, thats what they did to jesus christ
[02:11] <phunyguy> lol
[02:11] <HFSPLUS> "Then they will go forth and look On the corpses of the men Who have transgressed against Me. For their worm will not die And their fire will not be quenched; And they will be an abhorrence to all mankind. isaiah 66:24
[02:11] <HFSPLUS> i actually shocked myself last week and deleted windows 8 and installed ubuntu
[02:11] <HFSPLUS> i cant believe
[02:11] <HFSPLUS> it
[02:14] <HFSPLUS> EXT4 Is the best filesystem ever created, period.
[02:14] <valorie> me either
[02:15] <valorie> linux soapboxing is no more welcome here than religious soapboxing
[02:16] <HFSPLUS> ban me idgaf the gospel of christ is the most important thing ever
[02:16] <valorie> thank you
[02:23] <IdleOne> j4s0nmchr1st0s: what channel are you getting that message in?
[02:25] <phunyguy> nooo waaaaa
[02:29] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> IdleOne: You cannot send messages to #ubuntu.
[02:29] <IdleOne> you are not in #ubuntu
[02:29] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> IdleOne: That explains it.
[02:29] <IdleOne> it would
[02:29] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> would?
[02:30] <IdleOne> s/would/does/
[02:30] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> :)
[02:31] <IdleOne> now you can keep an eye on him
[02:31] <IdleOne> I'm glad I could help
[02:37] <phunyguy> oh it's the 12.10 guy from the other day, no?
[02:37] <IdleOne> might be
[02:38] <IdleOne> they all look the same
[02:38] <phunyguy> he just asked about a quantal repo
[05:30] <phunyguy> handled ^
[05:30] <phunyguy> (btw)
[11:08] <ikonia> hello cristian_c
[11:08] <ikonia> you seemed to find this channel very fast
[11:08] <ikonia> 3 seconds after being muted
[11:08] <ikonia> so what's the issue ?
[11:09] <cristian_c> muted, I've not seen this, I thought kicked
[11:09] <ikonia> you where kicked
[11:09] <ikonia> you still found this channel 3 seconds after being kicked
[11:09] <cristian_c> ikonia, I don't think I can't be helped by users by ben64 fault
[11:09] <ikonia> thats pretty good, it's almost as if you know what to do when you've been kicked
[11:09] <ikonia> cristian_c: you've been repeating the same question over and over for days, you've been helped multiple times
[11:10] <ikonia> you've just called a member of the channel who does nothing but good help - a "known troll"
[11:10] <cristian_c> I've gone offtopic, but I've told to the user to not trust to ben64, a guy I know very well
[11:10] <ikonia> he is not a "known troll" you've just made something up about a long term helper to rubbish his claims that you've been doing this over and over again for days
[11:10] <cristian_c> ikonia, I've been kicked in #ubuntu channel , if i remember, and in other channels too
[11:11] <ikonia> yeah, thats not good then
[11:11] <ikonia> if you are getting kicked from channels - perhaps adjust your attitude and stop calling people trying to help you "known trolls"
[11:11] <cristian_c> ikonia, I can show what I 've asked in these twi days
[11:11] <cristian_c> *two
[11:11] <ikonia> I can see the logs already
[11:11] <ikonia> the channel is publicly logged
[11:11] <cristian_c> ikonia, i'm absolutely sure he is a troll
[11:11] <ikonia> you're totally wrong then
[11:12] <cristian_c> ikonia, I alwaysignore him, so I can solve the problem
[11:12] <ikonia> you are welcome to ignore him
[11:12] <ikonia> he gives excellent advice, that is your loss
[11:13] <ikonia> however the problem kicks in when you are making things up about him and telling others to wrongly ignore him
[11:13] <ikonia> and calling him names such as a known troll
[11:13] <cristian_c> ikonia, I always ignor him, I've adviced only the user
[11:13] <ikonia> no you didn't
[11:13] <ikonia> you called him a "known troll" which is lies, and told the user to ignore him
[11:14] <cristian_c> ikonia, I think mine it's a googd advice to prevent users from be damaged from him
[11:14] <ikonia> then you should not be using this channel
[11:14] <cristian_c> ikonia, I know this user very well
[11:14] <ikonia> the ubuntu channels
[11:14] <ikonia> the user in question has been in the channel a long time and provides nothing but excellent help to users
[11:15] <ikonia> you on the other hand have been unable to follow simple advice nad have been repeating the same question for days
[11:15] <cristian_c> ikonia, I know him and I've seen him in the channel, he bothers users with trolling behaviour, he is not useful for the channel
[11:15] <cristian_c> I can show it
[11:15] <ikonia> I'm well aware of his contribution
[11:16] <ikonia> hence why it is unacceptable to behave as you are doing
[11:16] <cristian_c> I don't want tell lies
[11:16] <ikonia> if you find that sort of contribution to the channel "unhelpful" I suggest you use another channel
[11:17] <cristian_c> ikonia, I don't follow no asdvices from him, because I know he is a troll, sorry but I must defend me from these users
[11:17] <cristian_c> *troll users
[11:17] <ikonia> then you are not welcome in the channel
[11:17] <ikonia> please find another channel if you are unable to not pass comment
[11:17] <cristian_c> ikonia, not this channel that user
[11:17] <cristian_c> *,
[11:17] <ikonia> yes, I understand
[11:18] <ikonia> and if you can't use #ubuntu without keeping your opinion out of the channel, you cannot use the channel
[11:18] <cristian_c> ikonia, ok, but I can show what I've posted in the channel in these two days
[11:18] <ikonia> I'm well aware
[11:18] <ikonia> I have the logs
[11:18] <ikonia> as I've said earlier
[11:19] <cristian_c> ikonia, I've only give a advice to a user for the intervention of ben64, I usually ignore him, from months
[11:20] <ikonia> and you are wrong to do so
[11:20] <ikonia> as I've said 3 times now
[11:20] <ikonia> I don't really want to go over this again
[11:20] <ikonia> here are your options
[11:20] <ikonia> 1.) use #ubuntu and not pass comment on users such as ben64 to anyone at all
[11:20] <ikonia> 2.) find another channel to use
[11:20] <cristian_c> ikonia, I can't agree sincerely, because I directly experienced his behavior
[11:21] <ikonia> ok, then we are done
[11:21] <ikonia> please find another channel to use for your linux/ubuntu support issues
[11:21] <cristian_c> ikonia, sorry, I don't understand exactly the option
[11:21] <cristian_c> if you want I exit from #ubuntu channel
[11:21] <cristian_c> or not
[11:22] <ikonia> yes please.
[11:22] <cristian_c> ok, i think i can do domething to ask other operators or admin
[11:22] <cristian_c> *something
[11:22] <ikonia> sure
[11:23] <cristian_c> I exit from the channel as you 've asked
[11:23] <ikonia> thank you
[11:23] <cristian_c> #ubuntu
[11:23] <cristian_c> done, so the next step
[11:23] <ikonia> errr you where not in #ubuntu
[11:23] <ikonia> I removed you earlier
[11:23] <cristian_c> ok
[11:24] <cristian_c> i've detached the tab
[11:24] <ikonia> great
[11:24] <IdleOne> next step is to part this channel #ubuntu-ops and go on about your business in some other linux help forum
[11:24] <cristian_c> now, I've to understand what guidelines i've to read to ask other operators or admin
[11:24] <cristian_c> IdleOne, why?
[11:25] <IdleOne> because you won't be allowed access to #ubuntu for help
[11:25] <cristian_c> IdleOne, ikonia has said I must not stay in #ubuntu
[11:26] <IdleOne> correct
[11:26] <IdleOne> and I agree with him
[11:26] <cristian_c> IdleOne, ok
[11:26] <cristian_c> I've to ask to other operators and admin
[11:27] <IdleOne> I am an operator
[11:27] <cristian_c> what is the correct procedure to denfend me
[11:27] <cristian_c> ?
[11:28] <ikonia> cristian_c: I'll repeat your options
[11:28] <ikonia> a.) use #ubuntu and do NOT comment to anyone about your opinions of people including ben64
[11:28] <ikonia> b.) find another channel to use
[11:29] <cristian_c> ikonia, so, I've asked to you to understand the option and you've said that I must exit from #ubuntu
[11:29] <cristian_c> ikonia, ok, it seems two different options
[11:29] <ikonia> cristian_c: read the options again
[11:29] <ikonia> choose a.) or b.)
[11:29] <ikonia> there are two options
[11:29] <ikonia> I've just detailed them for you
[11:29] <ikonia> pick one
[11:30] <cristian_c> ikonia, ok, one excludes the other
[11:30] <ikonia> they are two seperate choices
[11:30] <ikonia> pick one
[11:30] <ikonia> they are not up for discussion
[11:30] <cristian_c> ikonia, I thought I have to exit #ubuntu in both the cases
[11:30] <ikonia> cristian_c: pick one
[11:30] <cristian_c> ikonia, ok
[11:31] <cristian_c> ikonia, ok, a is well for me, I can just ignore him and I can make opinions about him and other users in the channel
[11:31] <cristian_c> *can't make
[11:31] <ikonia> cristian_c: pick one
[11:32] <ikonia> they are not up for dicussion, this is the last time I will ask
[11:32] <cristian_c> ikonia, as I said, a) is well for me
[11:32] <cristian_c> ikonia, I've answered to this question already
[11:32] <ikonia> ok - so be aware, if you make comments about users (including ben64) to other users - you will be removed from the channel and not allowed back in
[11:32] <ikonia> clear ?
[11:33] <cristian_c> ikonia, yes, as established
[11:33] <ikonia> right
[11:33] <cristian_c> I think the statement is clear for me
[11:33] <ikonia> I've removed the ban in #ubuntu
[11:33] <ikonia> you can join #ubuntu now
[11:33] <cristian_c> now, can I exit form this channel?
[11:33] <ikonia> good
[11:33] <ikonia> yes, please exit from this channel
[11:33] <cristian_c> one moment, please
[21:41] <rww> jpds: (since you're not in #ubuntu-ops-team): I'm nagging people about ban reviewing, please check your list of #ubuntu bans in BanTracker and remove as appropriate, thanks :)
[23:03] <bazhang> sloantothebone> in cyberspace no one can hear you scream
[23:03] <bazhang> augh
[23:31] <OerHeks> Hi, i am in #ubuntu and got spam message from sinkes in PM
[23:32] <k1l> OerHeks: thanks, i removed that user.
[23:32] <OerHeks> k1l, show gratis (solo hooy) --> http:// etc
[23:33] <OerHeks> Thank you, have a nice day :-)