[00:00] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: exact errors matter
[00:00] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: let me try to copy paste it from your original post, give me a min
[00:00] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: you can use the "tab" key to let filenames and pathes to be completed automatically.
[00:00] <Poutsa> hello
[00:01] <Poutsa> is this config fine
[00:01] <Poutsa>  http://tinyurl.com/pq4fpj8 ?
[00:01] <Estupend0> Good evening, I need help with permissions. Anybody can help me?
[00:01] <k1l> dont clikc the link, its NSFW
[00:02] <_war10ck_> k1l: By mistake I clicked that, please kick him
[00:04] <Estupend0> I've connected the hard drive of my dead macbook pro to another laptop with Ubuntu. I've opened Nautilus from the terminal (sudo nautilus) and it doesn't let me manipulate the files in that hd, only reading and copying.
[00:04] <Estupend0> Any advice?
[00:04] <daftykins> Estupend0: yes HFS+ writing isn't recommended
[00:04] <bekks> Estupend0: The Mac filesystems cant be written safely.
[00:04] <k1l> Estupend0: dont use sudo nautilus in the first place
[00:05] <Estupend0> Ahm, thanks. k1l, what then?
[00:05] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, i copy pasted that command, and I get a ' no such file or directory'
[00:06] <Estupend0> So I should only copy those files to my Ubuntu hd and then safely manipulate them, right?
[00:06] <k1l> Estupend0: and second: hfs+ is read-only afaik. so get your backup from that hdd
[00:06] <Estupend0> Right, that's what I thought.
[00:07] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: which command? i dont see what you see. think of describing your mechanik what is broken on your car on the phone. "its broken" doenst work
[00:07] <Estupend0> One thing else: how can I quickly change the permissions for a folder and everything inside it?
[00:07] <Nady> k1l can you help me with xdman as well
[00:07] <wedgie> greetings. I have an install of xubuntu 14.04 and a system with UEFI. it'll boot just fine with the original 3.11 kernel that it installed with, but won't boot with any of the kernel updates (have to select the old kernel out of the grub menu)
[00:07] <k1l> Nady: can you explain a bit more? there are several programs using the name xdm
[00:08] <wedgie> i suspect that it is uefi related but not sure. It just stops after it says "initializing initial ramdisk"
[00:08] <bubbasaures> wedgie, If you run sudo update-grub are they from the latest to the oldest top to botoom?
[00:08] <bubbasaures> bottom*
[00:08] <Estupend0> k1l, thank you so much. And one last thing:
[00:08] <wedgie> bubbasaures: yes
[00:09] <Estupend0> how can I quickly change the permissions for a folder and everything inside it?
[00:09] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, I copy pasted this command on my surface pro terminal:     'sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/usb8797_uapsta.bin'        then it responds 'cp: cannot stat 'usb8797_uapsta.bin' : no such file or directory
[00:09] <Nady> xtreme download manager
[00:09] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: are you in the folder where the file is? "ls -al" should list the file
[00:09] <mememeffs> Hey Can anyone either point me to docs on how to install or check if " the ca-certificates package" is already installed?
[00:09] <Nady> k1l  xtreme download manager
[00:10] <bubbasaures> wedgie, You might try again now, I thought a update-grub in a efi worked.
[00:10] <k1l> !info xdman
[00:11] <wedgie> bubbasaures: meaning that the 'update-grub' command i just ran ought to fix it?
[00:11] <mememeffs> pretty please :-D, im really lost and have spent hours trying to get ssl to work with my app
[00:11] <daftykins> mememeffs: i'm sure it will be. "sudo apt-get install ca-certificates"
[00:11] <toothe> I just installed an ubuntu package, but then ctrl-C'd it. How do I uninstall it? When I do 'remove' it says its not installed.
[00:11] <Nady> k1l xtreme download manager install karna hai
[00:11] <wedgie> bubbasaures: the last time i ran updates which included a kernel update was just a little while ago (an hour maybe)
[00:11] <bubbasaures> wedgie, Yes, this should also be run automatically on kernel update/upgrades.
[00:11] <toothe> Is there a way to remove all packages that are not finished or used?
[00:12] <daftykins> toothe: sudo apt-get -f install <-- first
[00:12] <daftykins> toothe: clear the package download cache via "sudo apt-get clean"
[00:12] <toothe> done.
[00:12] <toothe> okay, did tha ttoo.
[00:12] <k1l> Nady: it is not common on ubuntu to use such windows download managers
[00:12] <toothe> I was installing kubuntu-desktop, but realized half-way through that I just want the kbuntu-core. So the ctrl-c stopped, but didn't uninstall anything.
[00:13] <bubbasaures> wedgie, I'm trying to see if this is not what happened, ubuntu updates kernels than grub is the norm.
[00:13] <toothe> daftykins: so for exmaple, i still have libreoffice installed.
[00:13] <LemonSqueeze> k1l; I remember you told me to start terminal from the downloads folder... I just started terminal straight up from unity, did I do something wrong there?
[00:13] <daftykins> toothe: not sure what you want me to say, to those :)
[00:14] <Nady> k1l xdman is ubuntu program
[00:14] <toothe> fair enough...
[00:14] <toothe> maybe I should just install the whole thing, then uninstall.
[00:14] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: you need to place the command i gave you in the location where the file actually is.
[00:14] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: i dont know where you put that file onto your surface at all.
[00:15] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: again: you still need to think here. i dont know what you are doing and cant see it.
[00:15] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: the file i downloaded from the link you gave me is in my downloads folder
[00:16] <MeXTuX> I can connect to a server using SSH without typing a password from computer A. Now I am using a another computer (say computer B) and want to connect to the server through SSH. How can I copy SSH key from computer A to computer B in order to connect to the server???
[00:16] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: then move yourself in the terminal into that folder. keep in mind, that ubuntu is case-sensitive. so it *might* be "cd Downloads" but you need to correct that to your actual situation
[00:17] <bekks> MeXTuX: Thats not how things work. Instead, you configure the host and B.
[00:17] <bekks> MeXTuX: Give me a second for a tutorial please.
[00:18] <pw1960> hello
[00:18] <bekks> MeXTuX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[00:21] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: i told you another comand to check if the file is in your actual location: "ls -l" if it doesnt list that file the cp command will not work
[00:22] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8875107/
[00:23] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: ok, lets speed this up, a lot.
[00:23] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: quick answer: is "ls -l" listing the file?
[00:23] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: yes it is
[00:24] <OerHeks> sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/ # will do
[00:24] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: it is showing total 450 -rw-r--r-- 1 grady 551720 Nov 7 2014 mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin
[00:25] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: ok. sorry i mixed cp and mv, see OerHeks command. that will work
[00:25] <OerHeks> cp or mv does no harm here, i guess, only the destination was wrong
[00:27] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: should I include the '#' or input the usb8797_uapsta.bin     ?
[00:27] <OerHeks> no, that # was for the comment
[00:27] <OerHeks> sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/
[00:27] <k1l> stop before the # but it will not include everything after the # anyway
[00:32] <axizor> Hi, quick question. I installed gdm on ubuntu 14.04 which changed my desktop to gnome, and I want to go back to unity now.
[00:32] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, i am in /Downloads$, which is where my file is.... i input the command "sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/" and I still get cp: cannot stat "usb8797_uapsta.bin" : no such file or directory
[00:32] <axizor> I reconfigured and am back on lightdm, but want to know how to get the unity desktop back
[00:33] <Bashing-om> axizor: Have you tried selecting your user session in the login box ?
[00:33] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: please make sure the command names exactly the name that the file actually got
[00:34] <KALEGEK> gr8 OS m8
[00:34] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: file name is abcd  and you command: copy qwert. so he is not gonna copy anything
[00:35] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: the file name is mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin so please use that.
[00:35] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: justrealized that too, and i think it moved.... i got no error file this time
[00:36] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, no errors or "ok" is good !
[00:36] <OerHeks> that is how linux works
[00:36] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: yes, it is in the file now
[00:36] <KALEGEK> i wish linux had installers just as noobish as Mac
[00:37] <KALEGEK> just install a dmz file, or remove a folder to uninstall
[00:37] <Axizor-1> Axizor back here, I just went to the user login screen to change sessions as you suggested, and when ti tried to log back in, the screen goes black and redirects me to the login screen again. No failed password message or anything like that.
[00:37] <k1l> KALEGEK: ubuntu got a package system. its very easy to use.
[00:37] <KALEGEK> i know but it could be simpler
[00:37] <Axizor-1> Ever since I installed gdm it's like I broke the gui
[00:38] <k1l> Axizor-1: make sure in that users home the .Xauthority file belongs to your user and not root
[00:38] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: so now that it is in the right file, do i need to run it? cause no wifi options show up....
[00:38] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: try a reboot
[00:39] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, reboot that machine to make that driver active (if there are no other instructions)
[00:39] <KALEGEK> tried ubuntu on my android phone, still cool, wish they would hurry up and make it final
[00:39] <OerHeks> no guarantees as far as i understand from many webpages, wireless N can be a pain
[00:40] <k1l> OerHeks: he is on a surface  pro 2.
[00:40] <OerHeks> k1l, i know
[00:40] <k1l> alright
[00:42] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, rebooted, still got nothing.... fyi OerHeks: if you didnt already know we are going off this page https://jaxbot.me/articles/running-ubuntu-on-a-surface-pro-2-off-the-metal-video-5-26-14
[00:44] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: try renaming that to usb8797_uapsta.bin
[00:44] <OerHeks> k1l, LemonSqueeze one thing bothers me, the file is called mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin and all files in that folder have no mrvl-  prefix
[00:44] <OerHeks> ah
[00:45] <blueyed> Where is the user's pulseaudio server started from? There is /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop - but that calls start-pulseaudio-x11, which only issues pactl commands.
[00:46] <et09> i'm looking for the equivalent of lighttpd/nginx for imap+smtp... if anyone has any suggestions
[00:46] <OerHeks> sudo mw /lib/firmware/mrvl/mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/usb8798_uapsta.bin
[00:47] <OerHeks> ouch, mw typo, my bad  >>  sudo mv /lib/firmware/mrvl/mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/usb8798_uapsta.bin
[00:47] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: i just renamed it in the downloads folder and moved it again if thats ok
[00:48] <Surendil> et09: sendmail or postfix
[00:48] <blueyed> et09: are you looking for a MTA or a proxy?
[00:48] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: ok then reboot again
[00:49] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: aight it works! BUT! now my keyboard and stylus dont work ahha
[00:50] <LemonSqueeze> k1l:
[00:51] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: never mind, rebooted it 4 times in a row
[00:51] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: now it works, thanks both of you for the help!
[00:52] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, enable screen keyboard, and setup bluetooth with your keyboard i guess
[00:53] <corax> Skype 4.3 in ubuntu 12.04 ...how do i get sound/mic to work?
[00:54] <Hulio> hi guys
[00:55] <Hulio> ubuntu and mac which is faster OS?
[00:55] <k1l> Hulio: obviously ubuntu, when you ask in a ubuntu channel
[00:55] <Hulio> oh
[00:55] <bekks> Hulio: Doesnt matter. And cant be benchmarked actually.
[00:55] <OerHeks> Hulio, faster in what, updates?
[00:55] <OerHeks> \o/ubuntu wins
[00:55] <Hulio> faster in speed, given the same spec and same machine
[00:56] <Hulio> assuming hackintosh
[00:56]  * bubbasaures rolls their one eye
[00:56] <KALEGEK> lubuntu yes!
[00:56] <KALEGEK> try LXDE
[00:56] <OerHeks> Hulio, test it yurself, depends on your machine config
[00:56] <KALEGEK> it ran on my android s2
[00:56] <k1l> Hulio: i think that better suits in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:56] <Hulio> i do test them
[00:56] <bekks> Hulio: Hackintosh isnt supported at all. Invalid requirement.
[00:56] <KALEGEK> through emulation
[00:56] <azizLIGHT> in the dash, when i search for something, and its icon shows up in the search results, what determines the icon it uses? and where do i find this file so i can change the icon to what i want?
[00:56] <Hulio> i found that ubuntu is faster
[00:56] <KALEGEK> i don't think you can run OSX on a android phone ;)
[00:57] <Hulio> i'm just wanting to check out :)
[00:57] <bekks> Hulio: Did you use a Apple computer? I assume no, since you mentioned hackintosh.
[00:57] <Hulio> i'm going to boot into ubuntu
[00:57] <Hulio> bye
[00:58] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Icons
[00:58] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: /usr/share/applications/ , the .desktop file contains the icon info
[00:59] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: its not there. what im looking for
[00:59] <OerHeks> icons are stored in either /usr/share/icons or /usr/local/share/icons and icons for user themes are stored in ~/.icons
[00:59] <hulio> it is faster :)
[00:59] <azizLIGHT> is there another location alternative to /usr/share/applications where desktop files are stored
[00:59] <inerkick> Hi I'm getting this issue when try to update/upgrade my Ubuntu 12.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8871032/
[00:59] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: what are you looking for?
[00:59] <hulio> can ubuntu write to mac drive?
[01:00] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: am looking to change an application icon. not find icons
[01:00] <k1l> inerkick: are you kidding me?
[01:00] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: civilization v
[01:00] <OerHeks> inerkick, correct, 12.10 is EOL, upgrade please
[01:00] <hulio> or is it only read   HF+
[01:00] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: it all works now, but if you dont mind, I could use some help with something else... everytime i click drag something with my mousepad,  this shows up, "http://imgur.com/dyy8Hem"    but it doesnt show when I use my usb mouse
[01:00] <inerkick> how to
[01:00] <k1l> inerkick: i told you several times now that you need to change the sources. do you not listen at all? then stop coming in here and asking
[01:00] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: it shows the wrong icon: standard steam icon
[01:00] <k1l> !eolupgrade  | inerkick
[01:00] <bubbasaures> inerkick, 12.10 needs an eol upgrade, and sevral more to get to a supported 14.04, you might do a fresh install
[01:00] <waykool99> My location: Green Bay, United States
[01:01] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, looks like you draged it on to an other file, that is your error
[01:01] <k1l> inerkick: dont come back in here before you did read the whole page the bot linked to you now. dont come back
[01:02] <inerkick> I tried that, k1l I changed the sources.. Didn't work hence came back
[01:02] <inerkick> will try to get fresh one
[01:02] <k1l> inerkick: i bet you didnt. read the wiki. change the sources. upgrade
[01:02] <inerkick> or try again. Will think of it bubbasaures
[01:02] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: No thats not the problem, its actually whenever I click hold anything with my mousepad, that Icon shows up... even when click holding the desktop it shows up
[01:03] <azizLIGHT> i got it. its in ~/.local/share/applications
[01:03] <azizLIGHT> so thanks for the hint EriC^^
[01:03] <KALEGEK> OerHeks, you are dutch? :D
[01:04] <corax> inerkick  i usually copy the home folder to another medium ... then i take note of the apps installed ... and then the setting in etc ... then i reinstall from usb or cd ... and then restore home folder
[01:04] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, not sure if it is a mouse setting, go into systemsettings > mouse and see if you can change double click speed?
[01:04] <OerHeks> KALEGEK, si
[01:05] <Fuark> someone here understands about language C
[01:05] <Fuark> ?
[01:05] <k1l> Fuark: see alis if you find a c language channel on freenode
[01:05] <k1l> !alis | Fuark
[01:06] <Fuark> THX
[01:06] <OerHeks> Fuark, try ##c or ##c++
[01:06] <cryptodan> In all honesty it wouldbe easier to keep and maintain a separate /home partition
[01:06] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: i changed the double click speed but this still shows up
[01:07] <k1l> or just to use the update. but the user is not able to read a wiki page and fix the old-release sources since days.
[01:07] <corax> cryptodan not a bad idea
[01:08] <cryptodan> even better with non-ssd drives being cheap keep home on a separate drive all together
[01:08] <daftykins> not all of your /home, the best setup just symlinks your large static media to a mechanical
[01:08] <daftykins> that way application configs stay on SSD speed
[01:10] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, can't help you there, i found no hints in the many howto's
[01:11] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: ok, thanks for all the help!
[01:13] <l0rdn1x> It's nice running this 14.04.1LTS
[01:14] <mircolillo> .xchat2/budus.so
[01:22] <schtinky> my font size, especially in eclipse, keeps changing in 14.04... wtf is going on?
[01:22] <schtinky> it happens every few months and I never can remember how I fixed it last time
[01:22] <KALEGEK> read only config file?
[01:22] <KALEGEK> make it read only maybe
[01:22] <schtinky> always happens after a system update
[01:31] <frederick> hi
[01:31] <KALEGEK> hi
[01:32] <KALEGEK> wooha, didn't know 1700 people were in this room
[01:32] <frederick> how clean my ubuntu OS 14.04
[01:32] <frederick> i need that my ubuntu consume minimun ram
[01:32] <Surendil> frederick: what do mean?
[01:32] <KALEGEK> the quick way>
[01:32] <KALEGEK> ?
[01:32] <KALEGEK> oww
[01:32] <KALEGEK> uhhh
[01:33] <KALEGEK> use Lubuntu?
[01:33] <OerHeks> !info bleachit
[01:33] <OerHeks> !info bleachbit
[01:33] <l0rdn1x> frederick, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:34] <frederick> can remove all libraries, additional processes that consume ram my system without affecting
[01:34] <schtinky>  so surely everyone else is experiencing this same thing... ubuntu 14.04 system updates are changing my font sizes and window decoration LNF
[01:34] <schtinky> it's the most frustrating thing in the world
[01:34] <l0rdn1x> schtinky, no updates haven't changed anything for me.
[01:34] <KALEGEK> no internet -> closer to the most frustrating thing
[01:34] <daftykins> frederick: you should use lubuntu if you want lightweight
[01:35] <KALEGEK> ;D
[01:35] <k1l> frederick: if you stop services you will loose that services. ubuntu doesnt load stuff just to make your ram full.
[01:35] <KALEGEK> funny just like any os xD
[01:35] <frederick> mm is very good
[01:35] <frederick> thanks,
[01:36] <frederick> really like ubuntu and Unity is very nice
[01:36] <KALEGEK> use a different ubuntu distro frederick
[01:36] <k1l> frederick: what is the issue with your ram usage?
[01:36] <KALEGEK> if cleaning out things, doesn't help
[01:37] <KALEGEK> byebye frederick
[01:37] <l0rdn1x> lol
[01:37] <KALEGEK> lol
[01:37] <KALEGEK> i wanna go crazy, boot with a dos floppy and start ruby to build my os
[01:37] <KALEGEK> xD
[01:38] <k1l> KALEGEK: i bet the users in #ubuntu-offtopic are interested in that  :)
[01:38] <KALEGEK> build a OS with C, i'm in a hurry, how long would it take? xD
[01:39] <daftykins> !ot | KALEGEK
[01:39] <ysolomone> yoapply
[01:39] <KALEGEK> i was just joking, building a OS takes years
[01:39] <KALEGEK> with a team
[01:40] <KALEGEK> !guidelines
[01:42] <l0rdn1x> That was why Linus made Linux, so that students would have a solid base to build an operating system from and not be like him and have to make one from scratch.
[01:45] <daftykins> still off topic people.
[01:50] <feba> Hello! I have trouble with my dual boot (Win7/Ubuntu14.04). For no apparent reason, when I restarted it gave me an error and went straight to grub recovery. I installed lilo and now it goets straight to Windows, without giving an option to boot Ubuntu. None of the solutions I found on forums have worked for me. Do you have any suggestions, please?
[01:52] <bubbasaures> feba, The is a bootrepair tool that works well, or you can chroot from a live ubuntu and grub-install to the mbr
[01:53] <bubbasaures> There*
[01:53] <bubbasaures> feba, I assume with W7 this is a msdos mbr setup.
[01:56] <bubbasaures> feba, Really you want to be here via a live ubuntu boot to fix this.
[01:56] <feba> bubbasaures, I did boot-repair, it made no difference. I also tried grub-install with no effect, but I'm not entirely sure I did it right - I followed instructions on a forum, I'm fairly new to linux
[01:57] <bubbasaures> feba, Did you save the bootinfo summary from the bootrepiar, it tells you to save the url?
[01:57] <feba> bubbasaures, yes, I have the url
[01:58] <bubbasaures> feba, cool, lets see it, and let me know any additional changes made after running it, we may need another run if you have made changes.
[01:58] <OERIAS> hello. I am having trouble deleting files that i do not have permission, i have tried to do this sudo nautilus but it force closes. Any help?
[02:00] <kenny__> Does anyone have problems with slow wifi download speeds?
[02:00] <OerHeks> * gksudo nautilus ( fur gui tools)
[02:00] <feba> bubbasaures, here's the url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8874290/ but yes, we did several things since then, perhaps it'll be easiest to run it again?
[02:00] <OerHeks> OERIAS, what files exactly? not all folders have files that can be deleted
[02:01] <bubbasaures> feba, Try putting the sdb HD read first in the bios, you have grub in the sda that is all windows, sdb has grub as well.
[02:01] <rom1504> kenny__: oh no, you died
[02:01] <OERIAS> OerHeks, it is a folder that I created on a different account, unfortunately I deleted the account months back.
[02:01] <kenny__> on windows I get like 16 mb/s, but on ubuntu im getting .6
[02:02] <bekks> kenny__: which wifi chipset, which driver, which firmware? Name the exact versions please.
[02:02] <rom1504> kenny__: try to get in the next episode
[02:03] <OerHeks> OERIAS, sudo rm -rf /path/to/folder
[02:03] <bubbasaures> feba, Another run of the bootinfo would be good though, you can run just that on that first gui of the bootrepair app.
[02:03] <bekks> OerHeks: OUCH.
[02:03] <bekks> sudo chown ...
[02:04] <luoy_> hello everyone!
[02:04] <OERIAS> OerHeks, and all the files inherit the same permissions after this command?
[02:04] <OerHeks> bekks, that would be an option too, indeed
[02:04] <OerHeks> OERIAS, all files within that folder + folder will be removed yes
[02:05] <bekks> OerHeks: There is no reason for deleting stuff as long as there is a chance for root access.
[02:05] <OERIAS> OerHeks, But I also want to change the permission so that I can delete it in the future
[02:05] <Flannel> bekks: When his goal is "I want to delete things..." then the answer is to delete things :P
[02:05] <bekks> OerHeks: Actually I had one single situation on a corrupted fs where chown would not result in success.
[02:06] <ax562> Im on 12.04 lts 64-bit.  I have 2 screens laptop and display.  I only want the acet display on.  I change through nvidea setting and it works but doesn't stick after reboot.
[02:06] <OERIAS> no Flannel it is not the case
[02:06] <kenny__> what commands do I type in for the chipset/driver/firmware information
[02:06] <bubbasaures> that is a command though that can wipe anything pointed at
[02:06] <bekks> Flannel: when his goal to delete stuff and that requires root access, there is something heavily wrong.
[02:06] <OERIAS> I was to be able to add more files to folder and have permission to read and write
[02:06] <ax562> I have to change display setting everytime i boot into ubuntu
[02:07] <Flannel> bekks: Doesn't require root access, just a different user.  So sudo is one way to do it (he wants to delete things from another user's home directory)
[02:08] <junkanoo> anyone know what this error in my proftpd log means
[02:08] <junkanoo> USER ftp (Login failed): Invalid shell: '/bin/false'
[02:08] <feba> bubbasaures, how can I put sdb HD first? the only option I can see for the order of booting is the choice of external drive / internal drive / network
[02:08] <bubbasaures> ax562, Channel needs details to help.
[02:08] <OerHeks> OERIAS, changing the folder contents:  sudo chown -R $USER /path/to/folder/  # where $USER is short for your current user
[02:08] <ax562> Like?
[02:08] <bekks> Flannel: the actual probem is still unclear. all whats been revealed until now is that someone is trying to use root for deleting things.
[02:08] <bubbasaures> feba, That is a boot choice not the boot order.
[02:08] <Jeroen1> I guys, I tried this cronjob but it doesn't work. Does anyone know how I can find the error? */5 * * * * /etc/php5 /srv/domain.com/globalevents.php 0 >/dev/null 2>&1
[02:09] <bekks> junkanoo: talk to your administrator, he/she set that shell by purpose.
[02:10] <junkanoo> bekks, :) I am the admin
[02:10] <junkanoo> amazon ec2 instance, proftpd
[02:10] <bubbasaures> feba, You should see in the bios a list of the HD's and other media and instructions on how to move them up and down to be seen in the boot.
[02:10] <feba> bubbasaures, "Boot Priority" it says, could you tell me where I can access more options?
[02:10] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: I highly doubt that your PHP binary is located in /etc/php5. Also, the 0 is not needed. Try using the full path to the php binary, type "which php" to find it.
[02:10] <bekks> junkanoo: so fix that issue.
[02:11] <bubbasaures> feba, Are you in the bios?
[02:11] <junkanoo> bekks, hence the question :) how
[02:11] <bekks> junkanoo: set a valid shell?
[02:11] <Jeroen1> which php?
[02:11] <Jeroen1> Doesn't give anything :/
[02:12] <Jeroen1> The 0 is needed as it's an argument for the php script to run.
[02:13] <junkanoo> bekks, i guess... i must be confused... looking in /etc/shells I see a list of valid shells, but why/how did proftpd get /bin/false
[02:13] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: Ah ok. Did you manually install php to the system?
[02:14] <Jeroen1> No someone did it for me using nginx
[02:14] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: Type "file /etc/php5" and give us that output please.
[02:14] <Jeroen1> directory
[02:15] <Jeroen1> . /etc/php5: directory
[02:15] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: Then that would be why your command isn't working. You need the full path to the PHP binary. It sounds as though it may not be installed on your system if "which php" didn't give any output, or it's in a different location that is not a standard one.
[02:15] <junkanoo> I also have RequireValidShell set to no
[02:16] <feba> bubbasaures, yes, it lists HDD1 (64GB) and HDD2 (64GB) and you can't do anything to those
[02:16] <Jeroen1> rypervenche, php works fine on my server
[02:17] <Jeroen1> But there's no command to find where it is located?
[02:17] <Jeroen1> what should it return?
[02:17] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: locate php
[02:18] <nszceta> how do you guys control your VMs?
[02:18] <nszceta> does anybody use etcd?
[02:18] <bubbasaures> feba, Are you sure, you should be abpe to move them up or down in the list in the bios. By the way this is ajust a test to see if the sdb will just boot ubuntu, and we are having difficulty here.
[02:18] <bubbasaures> able*
[02:20] <bubbasaures> feba, Only other issue could be if sdb is a slave is all, is this the case?
[02:21] <kenny__> My wireless driver is r8712u, but It'd like to use r8168 instead, how do I change that?
[02:23] <feba> bubbasaures, I'm not able to move them on the list, it doesn't even list them as detailed as sdb; as for the second question, I don't understand what it means for sdb to be a slave, would you mind explaining?
[02:25] <bubbasaures> feba, We are off in the weeds is all, however lets try this download supergrub and put it on a disk or usb and it should boot ubuntu and we can fix this from the booted OS. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/  WE can get to what a slave is later...etc, at thois point I want to just see you fixed.
[02:26] <bubbasaures> feba, I assume you have a disc or usb to use.
[02:27] <feba> bubbasaures, I'll find one, will I need my bootable ubuntu usb?
[02:28] <bubbasaures> feba, Super grub is a tiny download that boots an app that finds the OS and boots it.
[02:29] <bubbasaures> feba, Having the live ubuntu as a back up is good though, there are fixes there as well.
[02:30] <bubbasaures> unless anyone wants to do a walk through chroot, hint hint
[02:30] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> IdleOne: It does.
[02:30] <feba> bubbasaures, okay, let me get super grub downloaded
[02:31] <bubbasaures> feba, Yeah it is tiny, use a regular usb loader or disk burner and boot that load, it will give you options to find and boot ubuntu.
[02:33] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is there an archive of the quantal repository?
[02:35] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade | j4s0nmchr1st0s here you find a trick to get that old repos working again
[02:36] <Ben64> OerHeks: j4s0nmchr1st0s: that is for upgrading, 12.10 is dead
[02:37] <OerHeks> sure it is dead, no heartbleed fix and so on
[02:37] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: Why was it killed?
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> time
[02:37] <OerHeks> j4s0nmchr1st0s, end of life, servers have to make room for current versions
[02:39] <Bashing-om> j4s0nmchr1st0s: 16.04 will be here before we know it, and ubuntu will be ready for all that new hardware and software .. move over little dog, big dog moving in.
[02:39] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Sounds like bs.
[02:39] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: that will be quite enough
[02:41] <explodingmango> Hello, I have a question about burning disks. I've seen talk about an "ISO-9600 read-ahead bug" and how you're supposed to add padsize=63s or whatever to disks you burn. Is that stuff still applicable today?
[02:42] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is it possible to revive a dead release?
[02:42] <explodingmango> oops, I mean "ISO-9660 filesystem read ahead bug"
[02:42] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: please stop asking about 12.10
[02:42] <OerHeks> j4s0nmchr1st0s, i answered that
[02:44] <Ben64> j4s0nmchr1st0s: if you want to run a single release for a long time, consider using the LTS or Long Term Support releases. One comes out every two years and is supported for 5 years
[02:49] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: Where is the torrent for 10.04 LTS (server)?
[02:51] <explodingmango> j4s0nmchr1st0s: Is this what you're looking for? http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ (haven't tried the torrent, but it's on that page)
[02:52] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> explodingmango: yes
[02:52] <explodingmango>  j4s0nmchr1st0s: Sweet, is it working?
[02:53] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> explodingmango: so far it is
[02:53] <Biohazard872014> anybody know anything about hydrairc or where i could find some help
[02:53] <Ben64> j4s0nmchr1st0s: why? 10.04 server loses support in like 5 months
[02:53] <Ben64> 14.04 is supported until 2019
[02:54] <Biohazard872014> i have been using 14.04 and it works great
[02:54] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: I can clone everything and keep it "alive"
[02:54] <explodingmango> Biohazard872014: Have you seen this page yet? http://www.hydrairc.com/content/community
[02:54] <Ben64> j4s0nmchr1st0s: that makes no sense
[02:54] <OerHeks> Biohazard872014, hydrairc  is windows only AFAIK
[02:54] <Ben64> if you're going to change versions, go to 14.04
[02:54] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Biohazard872014: I just don't like to relearn everything when the releases make unnecesarry changes.
[02:55] <Ben64> you'll have a much better time on 14.04
[02:55] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: Why is that?
[02:55] <Ben64> its newer, better, faster, stronger, and you won't have to worry about upgrading again until 2019 if thats what you like
[02:56] <Biohazard872014> OerHeks: i know i run ubuntu on my other computer as my server for web pages.
[02:57] <OerHeks> !wine | Biohazard872014, check the wine database
[02:58] <Biohazard872014> no im not trying to run windows programs just looking for help in getting scripts for hydra
[02:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Another thing...
[02:58] <Scroll_Tro0L> Anyone here experienced with maas/pxe? Nobody on #maas.
[02:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is the server installer comparable to an alternate cd where there is the text based installer?
[02:59] <Biohazard872014> but i posted it in the wrong window
[02:59] <Biohazard872014> sorry
[02:59] <explodingmango> New question... is it possible to get graphics HW acceleration working on a Thinkpad R51? Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device. (I'm just looking for a yes/no answer for now.)
[02:59] <bufferloss> hi folks
[03:00] <bufferloss> so, I just did a fresh install - that worked fine… first time logging in I got a dialog that said “would you like to install updates” or something similar, I said yes
[03:00] <bufferloss> it said “you need to reboot”, I rebooted, now I just get a blank/black screen after the bootloader
[03:01] <bufferloss> I get my normal bootloader where I can choose e.g. windows or ubuntu, I choose ubuntu, screen goes completely dark, lightens up a little, but still effectively black and then just hangs
[03:01] <bufferloss> what’s up with that?
[03:02] <explodingmango> bufferloss: I'm not the most knowledgeable, but... maybe a new kernel isn't working with your computer and you can boot with an old one.
[03:02] <explodingmango> bufferloss: Like so. http://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
[03:02] <bufferloss> 14.04 if that helps
[03:02] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: short answer, yes.
[03:02] <kul> hi
[03:02] <explodingmango> bufferloss: tldr hold shift while booting
[03:03] <bufferloss> explodingmango: ok I have options in grub for previous kernels, the original kernel appears to work
[03:03] <bufferloss> why would the new one break?
[03:03] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: minimal free software only option included?
[03:03] <bufferloss> why would ubuntu update a kernel that’s going to break my machine?
[03:03] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: are you done asking silly questions now?
[03:03] <explodingmango> bufferloss: Sorry that's the extent of my knowledge, if I say anything more I might just be talking out of my you-know-where
[03:03] <kul> im started a virtual box using tretflix (http://tretflix.com/).... how do i share folders so i can access it in plex
[03:04] <OerHeks> explodingmango, intel is supported in the kernel, but isn't good enough to run Unity3D AFAIK
[03:05] <phunyguy> OerHeks: what?  I run Unity3D and intel graphics
[03:05] <phunyguy> or did I miss something?
[03:05] <explodingmango> OerHeks: It's not Unity3D I'm worried about, even if I can't run that it'd be nice to get HW accel (i.e. doesn't complain to me about dri2/dri3 not supported when I run glxgears -info). Unless you just answered it and
[03:05] <explodingmango> *unless you just answered it without me picking up on it :P
[03:05] <OerHeks> phunyguy, i answered for intel 82852/855GM
[03:05] <phunyguy> oh.
[03:05] <phunyguy> yeah that's a tough call
[03:06] <explodingmango> I guess I can live with my current graphics then, I finally found something that can run the OpenGL stuff in processing, HW accel is just a bonus
[03:07] <explodingmango> hey bufferloss, still there?
[03:07] <bufferloss> yep
[03:08] <explodingmango> Um... I wonder if it's a graphics thing. I had something similar, although it was acting up right from the beginning, not right after updating.
[03:08] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: Why is it so silly?
[03:09] <decadence18> Can someone help me? I'm on 14.04 and I can't get a working MOTD
[03:09] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> It is what I am looking for.
[03:09] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: because you haven't asked a single "productive" question since you joined.  Do you have an actual real support question?
[03:09] <bufferloss> j4s0nmchr1st0s: what are you looking for?
[03:10] <explodingmango> bufferloss: 'Try adding "nomodeset" to the Grub command line.' Maybe from that menu you get by holding shift, you can edit the entry it uses to boot the latest kernel. Um...
[03:10] <astropirate> Hello friends.  I have my old harddrive with me. I want to take stuff out of it. My old home directory is encrypted. How can I decrypt it to copy files over? I have password that i used to log in
[03:11] <bufferloss> explodingmango: k
[03:11] <astropirate> actually, I will just boot out of that HDD and copy files here
[03:11] <astropirate> brb will try it
[03:12] <decadence18> Does anyone have any idea on how to make it work?
[03:13] <explodingmango> bufferloss: Aha, maybe I've found it. Boot up while holding shift, highlight the entry for the current kernel that doesn't work, then press the 'e' key
[03:13] <bubbasaures> decadence18, man motd might help
[03:13] <explodingmango> bufferloss: And then you should be able to edit the line. "add the nomodeset next to the "quiet splash" in the Grub kernel boot line."
[03:13] <Mendax> I just got banned from chat and I don't know why I got banned
[03:13] <bubbasaures> Mendax, Not here.
[03:14] <Mendax> 101
[03:14] <spacebug^> I'm getting "[nm-vpn-connection.c:1374] get_secrets_cb(): Failed to request VPN secrets #2" when trying to use my formerly working openvpn cnnection. I have tried reinstall network-manager network-manager network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome etc.. still nothing
[03:14] <Mendax> what does that mean>
[03:14] <Mendax> I don't remember doing anything that was that bad
[03:14] <OerHeks> Mendax, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[03:14] <explodingmango> Mendax: I think he means there is another place to discuss bans
[03:14] <bubbasaures> Mendax, There is a #ubuntu-ops channel
[03:14] <Mendax> what do u mean
[03:14] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> bufferloss: phunyguy I need something alternative to the 12.10 that is running I cannot quickly install some basic tools I want to use like nmap.
[03:14] <OerHeks> Mendax, ask in #freenode
[03:14] <decadence18> See I've looked at that but I'm missing both the /var/run/motd and the /etc/motd files. I've tried creating them manually but it still doesn't wok.
[03:14] <decadence18> *work
[03:15] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: so install a supported distro.
[03:15] <bufferloss> j4s0nmchr1st0s: so install something else
[03:15] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Or even mplayer to compile it I need development packages and the repository is down for 12.10.
[03:15] <OerHeks> decadence18,  sudo run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/
[03:15] <bufferloss> j4s0nmchr1st0s: yeah 12.10 is old, it’s also not an LTS release
[03:15] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, of course it's down = end of life.  install a supported distro.
[03:15] <Flannel> j4s0nmchr1st0s: You've already been given links to how to access the old archived repositories.  Folow them and you will be able to install software (and upgrade).
[03:17] <decadence18> DerHeks - Is something suppose to happen when I do that? Because I type it in the terminal and enter the command but nothing happens that I can see
[03:18] <OerHeks> decadence18, then you messed up some file, not preserving execute bit or something
[03:19] <decadence18> It's a clean install of 14.04, but there is nothing in /etc/update-motd.d, and no /var/run/motd or /etc/motd files
[03:20] <OerHeks> decadence18, there is,  even on my desktop install i get a message. > Welcome to Ubuntu 14.10 (GNU/Linux 3.16.0-24-generic x86_64) * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[03:21] <pinguy> hola
[03:22] <jardelvdas> Hello everybody, someone can tell me by q whenever I connect the charger to the battery% is at 90%?
[03:22] <pinguy> hi
[03:22] <decadence18> Is there any way of reinstalling the necessary motd files?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> pinguy, ask your support questions
[03:24] <decadence18> That came out wrong but I hope you know what I meant
[03:24] <daftykins> jardelvdas: i'm afraid that sentence doesn't make much sense
[03:25] <bubbasaures> decadence18, Try sudo apt-get install update-motd
[03:26] <decadence18> Um apparently I didn't have that package to begin with...
[03:26] <OerHeks> decadence18, this old ( for 11.04) howto should get you going http://www.howtogeek.com/104708/how-to-customize-ubuntus-message-of-the-day/
[03:28] <decadence18> I'll be back in a few. Rebooting and trying again.
[03:30] <mydopey> Ubuntu is dead?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> mydopey, your question makes no sense.  rephrase.
[03:33] <b0nn> hm, I just tried asking for help in #linux and #debian, but then I thought, oh I should try #ubuntu; so, I installed a package.. ffdiaporama, but the package was out of date so I got the latest package from the website (also via apt) but I get the following error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/ffdiaporama/devices.xml', which is also in package ffdiaporama-data 1.5-2build1
[03:34] <feba> bubbasaures, at the risk of sounding moronic, I'm not sure how to boot the super grub - would it be in a way similar to booting OS from usb, or do I do it from within windows?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> b0nn, what is the output of your terminal command:   cat /etc/issue
[03:34] <imastupidguest> Whena site suggests the I add their repo via add to /etc/apt/sources.list file  -  is there any way to do it using add-apt-repository?
[03:35] <imastupidguest> This site does not provide any instruction in that format
[03:35] <bubbasaures> feba, Not a stupid question, boot it like it was a live ubuntu, boot the media you used a usb or disk.
[03:35] <decadence18> Okay that didn't work. So far I haven't gotten make the MOTD work.
[03:35] <b0nn> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[03:36] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: what is the software ?
[03:36] <feba> bubbasaures, when I do it I get a black screen and "Remove disks or other media. Press any key to restart". When press the key Windows starts.
[03:37] <bubbasaures> feba, Are you able to boot the live ubuntu?
[03:38] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Tor
[03:39] <feba> bubbasaures, just double checked, yes, I can boot ubuntu from usb
[03:40] <Chuck_Norris> ok, so you did the steps that tor's webpage suggest?
[03:40] <bubbasaures> feba, Lets do that than and do this from the live using a terminal, boot it and come to the channel using it, so when can just copy and paste commands easily.
[03:40] <hal9000_> greetings
[03:40] <b0nn> solved: ffdiaporama-data hadn't been removed; dpkg -S <filename> told me the owner and someone had already asked if I had deleted that package, which I thought I had, but hadn't
[03:40] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: No. I wanted to see if the esier apt-add-repository method was possible from the information given.
[03:41] <imastupidguest> easier
[03:42] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: ok ok, i looking for some information...
[03:43] <feba> bubbasaures, okay, I'm in ubuntu
[03:43] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Cool, thanks. Fyi, In the mean time I'm gonna go ahead with the manual installation way described what I have. But any information would surely help me greatly in the future - in cases like this. thx
[03:45] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/tor-browser ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install tor-browser
[03:45] <bubbasaures> feba, Do you remember where you installed lilo to?
[03:46] <bubbasaures> feba, was it sda or sdb, which HD if you can.
[03:47] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: that will install tor-browser that is a firefox with tor preconfigured
[03:47] <feba> bubbasaures, I just did apt-get from ubuntu@ubuntu, so whatever the default is (home?)
[03:47] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Cool. So, to make sure I grep this...  There is a way to do it but not using only the 'kind of' information I see when the manual installation steps are given? In other words, no way to derive the needed information from something likedeb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org trusty main
[03:47] <feba> bubbasaures, sdb
[03:47] <imastupidguest> ?
[03:47] <imastupidguest> typo
[03:47] <feba> bubbasaures, I never run liloconfig though
[03:48] <bubbasaures> feba, The reason I ask as we are not able to change the read order of the HD's we have two mbrs we can use, but you will loose the lilo, but grub should be working.
[03:48] <decadence18> So none of that worked. I can't get anything to work MOTD wise. Someone please help me. I don't get any MOTD whatsoever.
[03:48] <bubbasaures> feba, JUst making sure you understand the context.
[03:49] <imastupidguest> And, when I do a sudo apt-get update, what does ""Ign at the beginning of a line mean? Ignore?
[03:49] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: idk, just before adding PPAs check that those PPAs are supporting your ubuntu version
[03:50] <feba> bubbasaures, I've never come across lilo before this problem we're dealing with emerged, so frankly I can't tell whether loosing lilo affects me in any perceivable way
[03:50] <Chuck_Norris> Ing, means nothing, i think it's means that you already got that repositor actualized, its ok
[03:51] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: I see. Ok. thx man
[03:51] <Chuck_Norris> np
[03:51] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team  -.-
[03:52] <bubbasaures> feba, Cool, you can reload the lilo if needed, but look at this link for the chroot to ubuntu. ubuntu is in sdb5 so use that in the chroot, once chrooted in I will give you the commands needed.  http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[03:52] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: feba :: how bout 'fdisk' see what is installed where, and re-instll grub2 to the hard disk that has ubuntu ?
[03:54] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, Problem here is two HD's one windows sda, sdb is ubuntu, user cannot set either as first boot, and we do not know which is is as of now. This has been a long trip just here, you are welcome to finish. ;)
[03:55] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, here is their bootscript before lilo was added, may be in sda or sdb http://paste.ubuntu.com/8874290/
[03:55] <eb0t> windows creates a whole world of trouble becaus of the way it boots
[03:56] <eb0t> if you had 2 linux installs you could just install grub on both mbr and it would be that simple
[03:56] <eb0t> and it wouldnt even matter which booted first
[03:56] <bubbasaures> eb0t, thank you oh wise one.
[03:56] <eb0t> you sound a bit jealous
[03:56] <eb0t> is this your room bubbasaures
[03:56] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: OH, no, I would not deprive you of your joy .. just try'n to thin away around this situation. // feba; what menas " can not set the hard disk priority in bios" Never ever encountered that .
[03:56] <eb0t> are you the authority here
[03:57] <eb0t> i rest my case
[03:57] <keller> was
[03:57] <eb0t> get over yourself oh wisest of the wise
[03:57] <bubbasaures> eb0t, your not that's for sure.
[03:57] <cfhowlett> eb0t, such comments are not helpful.  stop.
[03:57] <eb0t> you dont know me and i dont pretend to know you
[03:57] <OerHeks> !ot | eb0t
[03:57] <eb0t> oh wisest of the wise
[03:58] <eb0t> hey ubottu can you repeat what you just said to me to bubbasaures
[03:58] <eb0t> as they started these pranks
[03:59] <eb0t> i was only shedding some light on windows and grub
[03:59] <feba> bubbasaures, okay, chrooted
[03:59] <eb0t> and bubbasaures was jealous
[04:01] <feba> Bashing-om, the list of hard disks is not interactive in any way in my bios
[04:02] <eb0t> just in case feba you possibly need to mount several partitions as you need a working filesystem.
[04:03] <eb0t> from there you can just do a grub install and reboot
[04:03] <swift110-phone> Hey
[04:03] <eb0t> if your windows boots first then change hard drives around and remount and chroot and run grub install again
[04:03] <eb0t> from there it will boot
[04:04] <bubbasaures> feba, Cool run grub-install /dev/sda than update-grub than grub-install /dev/sdb than update-grub than leave the chroot and reboot
[04:04] <eb0t> ha ha
[04:04] <eb0t> yes finally doing it my way
[04:04] <feba> eb0t, I don't seem to be able to change hard drives around
[04:05] <Bashing-om> feba: I run phoenix bios, and resetting the bios boot order is a two step process, and I must use the number pad's '+' and '-' keys to change the boot order. Perhaps yours is similar ?,
[04:05] <eb0t> you dont need to change them around
[04:05] <eb0t> you just need to change the sata leads
[04:05] <eb0t> only the sata cable
[04:05] <eb0t> put the one on disk a onto disk b and the one on disk b onto disk a
[04:06] <sacarlson> eb0t: I think you can also change boot order in bios
[04:06] <eb0t> yes you can
[04:06] <eb0t> but thats another story
[04:06] <eb0t> this he can do in split second
[04:06] <eb0t> sorry maybe not...my box is always open
[04:07] <feba> bubbasaures, it installed without errors, but with /dev/sda it gave a warning that "Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track." Anything to be concerned about?
[04:09] <eb0t> flex net.....licensing probably
[04:09] <feba> Bashing-om, the list just doesn't appear to be ineractive in any way, I get to choose priority for internal/external/network boot, but it doesn't look like there are any options for HDDs themselves
[04:11] <Bashing-om> feba: I do not know, but that just does not make sense that provision is not made in bios to change the hard drive boot order. I have never ever seen where it was not. But, admittedly, there are lots of things I have never seen.
[04:12] <bubbasaures> feba, Ah flexnet, hold on I thought that was fixed, it has to do with windows stuff. The second post here is a bit more info, although dated but still good. You may be okay as just a warning I would test it with a reboot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254
[04:12] <imastupidguest> does anyone know where .desktop files are stored on ubuntu 14.04?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> imastupidguest, /home
[04:13] <imastupidguest> I thought it was /usr/share/applications  but that doesn't look right now that I peek in there
[04:14] <feba> bubbasaures, okay rebooting now, I'll take a look at flexnet in a minute
[04:14] <imastupidguest> crhowl no. That's not where I put eclipse the other day. I'm sure it's in /usr/*   somewhere
[04:14] <imastupidguest> now I'm working on another application to place a .desktop file for and can't remember where it goes
[04:15] <SchrodingersScat> sudo updatedb ; locate eclipse.desktop
[04:17] <eb0t> you can try find command imastupidguest
[04:17] <eb0t> find / -name "*.desktop"
[04:18] <imastupidguest> Id is /usr/share/applications   you just can't click on it via nautilus and expect it to open in the text editor. (It actually launches the application)
[04:18] <eb0t> the updatedb and locate is probably better
[04:18] <eb0t> use find or locate in command line
[04:18] <imastupidguest> SCHAAP137:  Thank you for reminding me
[04:19] <feba_> bubbasaures, nope, we made a full circle, back to no windows and no ubuntu, just an "error: no such device: <complex-string-of-numbers-and-letters>. Entering rescue mode... grub rescue>". This the original error I got.
[04:20] <eb0t> feba_: looks like your disks are the right way round now
[04:21] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> OerHeks: very well
[04:21] <bubbasaures> feba_, I'm surprised the bootrepair showed flexnet as just a warning, you may need to wipe the mbr with the commands in the first post of that last link than do a chroot in with the grub-install commands
[04:21] <bubbasaures> again is all
[04:21] <imastupidguest> Can anyone name some actual categories suitable for a web browser that one would use in the Catagories=   line of a .desktop file?
[04:22] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: gksu nautilus /usr/share/application-registry/
[04:22] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: thx so much man
[04:22] <bubbasaures> feba_, Let me know that makes sense, you seem to be moving along fine.
[04:22] <Chuck_Norris> np broda
[04:24] <metaldog> is this thing on?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> metaldog, ask your support question
[04:25] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/apps
[04:25] <Chuck_Norris> sudo apt-get update
[04:25] <Chuck_Norris> sudo apt-get install open-as-administrator
[04:25] <metaldog> hello, cfhowlett. right. first off, how do i direct my comments at the right person? as i was getting right confused earlier
[04:26] <SchrodingersScat> !tab | metaldog
[04:26] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: err,I think there's something I'm not understanding about that. When I examine my eclipse.desktop file (for reference purposes) I see a line that says  Categories=Development;IDE;f    which seem like existing categories that something in Unity (the dash maybe?) uses to help locate programs quickly
[04:26] <imastupidguest> no??
[04:26] <feba_> bubbasaures, I'm reading the post now, can I just blindly type those two commands or is there anything else involved also? (those are definitely beyond my linux knowledge, when they say 'backup' is that part of that command line?)
[04:26] <cfhowlett> Metacity, as you just did and as I demonstrated: start with their name in your message ...
[04:26] <imastupidguest> it's just a guess.
[04:27] <metaldog> Schrod
[04:28] <bubbasaures> feba_, You would not want to blindly type those, the mbr is where the partition table is and this is a specific command, very critical to get it right. Do you have windows backed up for any contingency?
[04:28] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: sry but, idk how Unity works, i don't use it since a lot of time -.-
[04:29] <feba_> bubbasaures, not quite, most of my personal files are secure, but none of the software
[04:30] <kevin> hey guys. so i have a two-monitor setup but my main monitor is being recognized as my secondary (and vice versa).. i always have to run xrandr to switch it manually. is there a way to correct this?
[04:30] <metaldog> nope. aint working for me. anywho, i have a problem with making a bootable os. i have tried many usb drives. tried many ways of formatting. tried a few different ways of making said bootable usb but when i try to boot from usb all i get is "failed to load COM32 menu,32" can anyone help me please? i need to change os as this runs like a brick thru treacle on my old pc.
[04:30] <daftykins> i take it they're different cable types so you can't just swap them?
[04:30] <desmond> I need help with my wifi. I can connect to my router and access the internet, but after a few minutes I can no longer access webpages or ping. What should I do?
[04:30] <kevin> daftykins: correct
[04:30] <daftykins> mmm no idea then
[04:31] <bubbasaures> feba_, I have not seen this issue in a long time so have not messed with it in about that time. Might be worth making a thread at the ubuntu forums with flexnet in the header and that second post on that links author is a mod there now and active daily in this area.
[04:31] <metaldog> desmond have you tried resetting your router?
[04:31] <abdo> hi
[04:31] <desmond> metaldog: my other devices can connect to the router just fine. it's just my laptop with ubuntu on it
[04:31] <metaldog> nope, that tab thing just dont work for me
[04:32] <eb0t> reboot your laptop
[04:32] <desmond> rebooting fixes the problem, but it happens again after a few minutes
[04:32] <bubbasaures> feba_, That flexnet issue does seem to be the crux at this point, if you could boot from the sdb HD you would be set.
[04:32] <eb0t> hmm so its possibly due to heat
[04:32] <metaldog> sorry, desmond, i have no clue. was just thinking aloud. sorry
[04:32] <abdo> hiiii
[04:32] <desmond> probably due to heat.... are you serious?
[04:32] <eb0t> as it warms up the wifi starts to lose connection maybe you need a new wifi card
[04:33] <abdo> how are you ??
[04:33] <metaldog> still need some rational input..........
[04:33] <eb0t> can you swap that card with one in anohter macine and see if the other machine plays up
[04:33] <eb0t> im deadly serious
[04:33] <desmond> the wireless card works fine on arch linux using netctl
[04:33] <eb0t> ah ok..then that rules that out
[04:33] <strong> [HELP] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, HOW can I hidden the grub menu and enter the ubuntu directly?
[04:34] <abdo> buuuf good night didnt you tell me bye
[04:34] <bubbasaures> strong, More than one OS?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> strong, edit your grub configuration to WAIT TIME = 0
[04:34] <kevin> think i found something... gonna restart x & gnome session and see what happens
[04:35] <imastupidguest> What is an existing category that can be used in a .desktop file for a web browser? Does it matter? Does it have to be something 'existing'? opera.desktop doesn't contain a Categories=            line, and it's the only web browser I have to compare/refernce the file
[04:35] <metaldog> zzzzz
[04:35] <eb0t> when it stops connecting to the internet ....desmond...have you done an ifconfig to see if it thinks its still connected
[04:35] <eb0t> and that it still has the ip address
[04:36] <eb0t> so the card is fine...the router is fine....so its ubuntu
[04:36] <kevin> success
[04:36] <metaldog> so. how is this a help room? i been in and out of here loads trying to get help. but nothing...is it coz i is ginja?
[04:37] <kevin> metaldog: well if nobody knows the answer to your question, nobody will be able to help... heh
[04:37] <cfhowlett> metaldog, you did NOT ask for help in this channel in the last 30 minutes.  no mind readers on duty.  state your issues or expect no support.
Yes, and Win7 is in another HDD
, I edit the etc/default/grub, but it didn't work
[04:38] <cfhowlett> strong, wait 1 I'll see if I can find exact tutorial
[04:38] <abdo> hii
[04:38] <bubbasaures> strong, you can change the wait time in gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub as suggested run a update-grub after changing.
[04:39] <metaldog> sorry, thought the mind readers might still be awake. my problem is up a bit. plz dont make me retype. i been doing that every time i bin in tonight. just want to get my old piece of poop working
[04:39] <bubbasaures> "\<strong> <cfhowlett>, I edit the etc/default/grub, but it didn't work" Did you run a update-grub?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> metaldog, state the issue.  yes you must retype or paste it up and give the link.
[04:39] <eb0t> sound like a northerner metaldog
[04:39] <kevin> haha
[04:39] <cfhowlett> strong, update grub ...
[04:40] <cfhowlett> !paste | metaldog
 YES, I have already did it.
[04:40] <desmond> eb0t: what shold I be looking for on iwconfig again?
[04:40] <eb0t> an ip address
[04:40] <desmond> sorry, i can't scroll up on this chromebook. the page-up key is missing
[04:40] <eb0t> erm
[04:40] <strong> Also, I create a "03_hiddenmenu" file in etc/grub.d, and didn't work too..
[04:40] <eb0t> can you do iwconfig | less
[04:41] <strong> TIME = 1 works, but TIME=0 don't work
[04:41] <desmond> there's no ip address
[04:41] <desmond> i'm not connected to my network anymore. now I can't connect
[04:41] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> This is a very active channel.
[04:41] <eb0t> so it is actaully dropping the address
[04:41] <desmond> I can connect after system boot, but after i lose connection, if I manually disconnect and try to reconnect, it will not connect
[04:42] <eb0t> how are you trying to reconnect
[04:42] <eb0t> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:42] <desmond> If I select my ssid on the applet, it tries to connect before saying "disconnected"
[04:42] <eb0t> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:42] <eb0t> maybe sudo if you dont operate from root
[04:42] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> desmond: Is this an internal wifi hardware used to make the connection?
[04:43] <feba_> bubbasaures, okay I'll do that, what would be the relevant information at this point?
[04:43] <eb0t> yes but appartenlty his internal wifi works with archlinux
[04:43] <desmond> I did. I didnt get any messages when I did that
[04:43] <eb0t> right do iwconfig | less
[04:43] <eb0t> see if its got an ip now
[04:43] <metaldog> hahaha....close...nottingham. anywho. i installed ubuntu on my old lame pc this morning....(im sure you all just making me retype this for kicks).....and it is right slow and clunky. so i thought i will download next os and try that. so i did and made a usb bootable thing and when i tried to load it all i got was "failed to load COM32 file menu.32". i have tried several usb drives, several os's and various ways of formatting etc but nothi
[04:43] <metaldog> ng works and no os on any usb will load. plz dont make me type it again, takes ages
[04:44] <desmond> no ip address, but it does list an ESSID
[04:44] <eb0t> metaldog you should go ferreting for a bit..and give you mind a break
[04:44] <desmond> It shows an ESSID while it is "connecting" to my router. When it fails, i get a desktop manager "Disconnected from network" and it's back to no ip / essid.
[04:44] <eb0t> right but your wifi password and stuff must be set up correctly for it to connect in the first place
[04:45] <eb0t> ok im not sure but can you look in dmesg
[04:45] <eb0t> does dmesg work on ubuntu
[04:45] <metaldog> ebot. i ferreted ur mum...was like throwing a sausage down a street.....next
[04:45] <eb0t> see if there is any log message as
[04:45] <eb0t> ha ha metaldog
[04:45] <metaldog> :)
[04:46] <bubbasaures> feba_ A new bootinfo summary is your best tool there, look for that user I mentioned help. Any thread has a thread just include the flexnet info there.
[04:46] <eb0t> geet boots on and geet rabbitin
[04:46] <bubbasaures> thread header sorry feba_
[04:46] <metaldog> still....help? plz?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> metaldog, no remarks about mothers.  NONE!  stop now.
[04:47] <desmond> okay eb0t, i'm going to try to connect again
[04:47] <desmond> dmesg says it's authenticated and "associated"
[04:47] <Imk0tter> assassociatio
[04:47] <eb0t> ok cool so its doing as it should
[04:47] <Imk0tter> whoops
[04:47] <Imk0tter> association*
[04:47] <desmond> and now the desktop notification says it is disconnected
[04:48] <metaldog> i stopped about 2 lines ago....keep up...anywho, im frustrated at the unbelievable amount of help i have had from this HELP ROOM on all my visits tonight.....
[04:48] <desmond> dmesg just says "deauthenticating from [mac address] by local choice (reason=3)
[04:48] <eb0t> ok one minute let me look up reason 3
[04:50] <metaldog> dear santa, for xmas this year can i please have some fur coats for all the poor homeless children and SOME HELP FROM A SO CALLED CHAT ROOM? thanks santa. amen
[04:50] <eb0t> ah it seems you may be using several different methods to connect via wifi
[04:50] <eb0t> wpa supplicant and others
[04:50] <eb0t> you must only use one
[04:51] <eb0t> otherwise this issue is gonna continue
[04:51] <eb0t> give us some o'dem rabbits metaldog
[04:51] <desmond> hm, what should i do?
[04:51] <Imk0tter> my cock is continuous
[04:51] <desmond> my laptop model is a sager np7338, by the way
[04:51] <eb0t> you have to investigate how your wireless netowrking starts
[04:51] <eb0t> here look here
[04:51] <metaldog> ur mums got a rabbit, lol
[04:51] <desmond> I didn't upgrade the wireless card, just used the stock one
[04:51] <Imk0tter> desmond: take it to a shop you lazy bum
[04:51] <eb0t> ah ok and you didnt manually install wpa supplicant
[04:52] <eb0t> then it may not be the issue
[04:52] <cfhowlett> !ops | Imk0tter trolling
[04:52] <eb0t> look here for some ideas
[04:52] <metaldog> you know what? sod it, im going to use the hammer of justice. in a bit
[04:52] <eb0t> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-935388-start-0.html
[04:52] <phunyguy> Imk0tter: do you mind?
[04:52] <eb0t> these guys normally speak sense the gentoo guys
[04:52] <Imk0tter> fuck off funnyman
[04:52] <KKEm> hey i got a startup problem after installing ubuntu 14.04 + 14.04.1
[04:53] <KKEm> screen looks the same as pluggin out the ram while machine is running
[04:53] <eb0t> it could also be interference ont hat channel you are using
[04:53] <bubbasaures> KKEm, This a screen you see when booting?
[04:53] <eb0t> so change channel
[04:54] <eb0t> in fact i would try that first desmond
[04:54] <eb0t> that actually makes more sense
[04:54] <KKEm> cant change channel, it tottaly freezee
[04:54] <desmond> eb0t: i have a suspicion that if i upgrade the kernel it would fix the problem
[04:54] <metaldog> sorry. im back. just to say sorry for being such an impatient arse at such an hour. didn't realise the time. sorry ppl
[04:54] <eb0t> yes possibly ...but its simpler to try and change channel
[04:54] <KKEm> bubbasaures a screen?
[04:54] <desmond> because my arch version used a more recent kernel, and i remember the guys on my forum saying i need at least linux 3.15
[04:54] <eb0t> you can possibly do that on your router
[04:54] <desmond> right now i'm using 3.13
[04:55] <desmond> well, the laptop i'm on right now is using the same wireless router
[04:55] <eb0t> no the channel for the wifi is normall yo channel 1 6 or 11
[04:55] <eb0t> these are non overlapping channels
[04:55] <eb0t> if you choos anything but these you are likely to get large amounts of interference from many other channels that overlap
[04:55] <eb0t> so you have to choose channel 1 6 or 11
[04:56] <bubbasaures> KKEm, So far you make no sense, I was trying to see if when you boot you get a odd screen situation like a grphic issue.
[04:56] <eb0t> currently your neighbors may be using the same channel as you
[04:56] <eb0t> and they are possibly have stronger signal strength thatn you
[04:56] <eb0t> and they are blasting your device and causign it to disconnect
[04:56] <eb0t> that would make sens
[04:56] <KKEm> bubbasaures, yes i see boot screen
[04:56] <eb0t> so change from channel 1 to channel 6 or 11
[04:57] <eb0t> an hopefully it will be problem solved
[04:57] <bubbasaures> KKEm, Can you just clearly explain your issue, that is the point.
[04:57] <KKEm> bubbasaures when i login the problem occur
[04:57] <KKEm> can i pm you
[04:57] <KKEm> i get confussed by all this text?
[04:57] <bubbasaures> KKEm, No, my help is nothing more than to get you to give understandable details.
[04:57] <KKEm> ok
[04:58] <bubbasaures> to the channel
[04:59] <eb0t> hey windows boot man..wherever you are
[04:59] <eb0t> have youstill not sorted that bit of a job out yet
[04:59] <KKEm> bubbasaures, i boot + type by first password, then i wait, and when i type my LOGIN password then 10 sec after the system freeze and the screen get this weird pattern
[04:59] <KKEm> at this point i cant do anything
[04:59] <KKEm> i have no grappich card in the puter god dammit
[04:59] <eb0t> is it a nice pattern kkem
[04:59] <bubbasaures> KKEm, Cool, not an area I'm real steeped in is all.
[04:59] <KKEm> yes very beautyful
[05:00] <eb0t> wow
[05:00] <eb0t> were er dem rabbits
[05:00] <KKEm> white rappits<3
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:00] <eb0t> cool
[05:00] <INL> hey so im new to ubuntu anyone have a good guide for the terminal commands?
[05:00] <KKEm> goodmorning
[05:00] <eb0t> theres a miner from nottingham in here ...trying to use linux and he got some rabbits for sale
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !bash | KKEm
[05:01] <KKEm> ikr
[05:01] <KKEm> but i cant access it
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !manual | INL,
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> Hello, the updated kernel has broken usage of my Stentura
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> In ubuntu 14.04
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !server | INL the server guide would be best for you?
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> it works fine if I use the previous kernel
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> Please fix this
[05:01] <bubbasaures> ArchZombie039423, Use the kernel that works
[05:01] <KKEm> i guess i have to wait
[05:02] <ArchZombie039423> Yes but this means a bug was introduced in the kernel
[05:02] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, not necessarily
[05:02] <ArchZombie039423> Because the previous kernel, and I am using it now, is working...
[05:02] <INL> also i just broke my last install of ubunto because i ran something like "sudo chmod 666 /*" what does that do
[05:03] <sacarlson> !bug
[05:03] <cfhowlett> INL, less irc.  more reading: man chmod          in your terminal
[05:03] <bubbasaures> ArchZombie039423, This is not a please fix this place, we are individual users not representing canonical, nor can you just declare a bug without some research.
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: what kind of error you getting on 14.04?
[05:05] <ArchZombie039423> Well I think, "latest kernel works, new kernel doesn't", is fairly precise. I don't really know how to write a bug report and what not.
[05:06] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, that's like telling your doctor: Hey!  I'm sick!   and expecting an accurate diagnosis ...
[05:07] <ArchZombie039423> Well my software does not connect to my steno machine when I use the new kernel.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: did you try start from terminal to see what errors you have?
[05:07] <ArchZombie039423> It just gives me a "disconnected" error. But it worked before.
[05:08] <ArchZombie039423> And yes but the software did not print any messages.
[05:09] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, in looking at the stentura site, no mention is made of linux support.  seems that there's a "plover" project which provides some steno support.  without more information, hard to pinpoint your issue.
[05:09] <ArchZombie039423> I just know I tried rebooting several times, and restarting and if still did not work, but then I tried the old we are nel and it did.
[05:09] <ArchZombie039423> And yes I am use Plover.
[05:10] <ArchZombie039423> Using
[05:10] <ArchZombie039423> kernel, god I am not very good at this
[05:11] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, could be a bug, could be something with plover, could be the kernel .... perhaps best to ask plover support first?  OR continue using the older version which you reported ... works fine!
[05:11] <desmond> eb0t: I rebooted and did some more debugging. it looks like i'm losing the IP address shortly after connecting for the first time
[05:12] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: what interface does this steno device use?
[05:12] <ArchZombie039423> Well, I mean, Plover is not really being developed much anymore, and it uses a serial port.
[05:13] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: my guess is that the new kernel just changed the serial port used.  you may need to change device used to connect to it
[05:14] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: or maybe the baud rate changed
[05:14] <ArchZombie039423> The port changed all the time before, I was used to that, and there were bawd rate options in the software.
[05:14] <ArchZombie039423> @baud
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: you also need python for this yes?
[05:17] <ArchZombie039423> Yes, it is required.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: wich version do you have?
[05:18] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: I note that there is no plover package in ubuntu http://stenoknight.com/wiki/Installation_on_Ubuntu_Linux  and for support they refer to http://stenoknight.com/plover/aviary/phpBB3/
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !info python trusty
[05:18] <ArchZombie039423> I built it from git, but it did not change.
[05:19] <eb0t> yes desmond do you have access to the router
[05:19] <eb0t> im not sure what type of router it is
[05:19] <eb0t> but normally if its one of those thing you get from a typicall isp then you should have a webpage you can log into
[05:20] <ArchZombie039423> And true but I think it is an Ubuntu bug.
[05:20] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, is there some disadvantage to using the previous kernel which DID work?
[05:20] <ArchZombie039423> Well, I suppose general security or whatnot.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: as bubbasaures said, we need to investigate whats wrong exactly
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> I am not having any issues, but I think it is a bug that should be fixed.
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> It just randomly stopped working, then it wouldn't work after I restarted plover
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> and restarting the machine didn't work either.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: checked your syslog or dmesg for errors?
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> How would I do that?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: dmesg in terminal
[05:22] <ArchZombie039423> Okay, I will check.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: or browse /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[05:22] <ArchZombie039423> do I need to run this when the device is not working?
[05:23] <ArchZombie039423> or will it still have logs from before
[05:23] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: i have to assume that the new kernel didn't break all the serial ports or we would have other bug report noteing it.  so I would focus on the plover software and how it controls baud rate, devices, parity, bit count....
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: any error would log anyway
[05:23] <KKEm> this is my problem: http://imgur.com/IrOrN9O
[05:23] <eb0t> a partity bit is an extra bit transmitted along with a data word
[05:24] <ArchZombie039423> Is there a command to check for errors in the dmesg?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: when do you get this?
[05:24] <eb0t> dmesg | grep error
[05:24] <KKEm> after log in after boot
[05:24] <ArchZombie039423> Instead of everything.
[05:24] <ArchZombie039423> Okay.
[05:24] <KKEm> no wait
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: ubuntu version?
[05:24] <eb0t> may be case sensitive
[05:24] <KKEm> 14.04 and 14.04.1 i get this screen after login
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: anything related to your plover is usefull
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did you recently update?
[05:26] <ArchZombie039423> Only interesting messages were: [    0.215393] acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_ERROR); disabling ASPM
[05:26] <ArchZombie039423> [   59.324129] usb 3-1: ch341-uart converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[05:26] <ArchZombie039423> Am I using the wrong dmesg command to read all the logs?
[05:26] <KKEm> i just installed it and this happend. also did this happen on 14.04.1
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: /var/log/dmesg for all
[05:27] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje i just installed it and this happend. also did this happen on 14.04.1
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: what kind of grafix card you having?
[05:27] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje actually i have no grappich card in it right now
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: using the onboard grafix card then?
[05:28] <KKEm> i guess
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:28] <KKEm> cause there aint one it it
[05:28] <KKEm> so i am using the motherboard yes
[05:28] <ArchZombie039423> Nothing in there different ...
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: try hold shift at boot for recoverymode maybe failsafeX or fix broken packages from there
[05:29] <KKEm> ok
[05:30] <KKEm> will you guide me ?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: i just did :p
[05:30] <ArchZombie039423> Maybe it is not logging everything for some reason.
[05:30] <KKEm> please this is hopeless there is no one ells on google having the same prob
[05:31] <ArchZombie039423> Or Dell eating the logs on reboot.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: if there's something wrong its logged
[05:31] <ArchZombie039423> ^deleting
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: starting your software from terminal can be usefull too
[05:31] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje im in boot now, Recovery mode?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: yes, ubuntu(recoverymode)
[05:32] <KKEm> ok
[05:32] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: by any chance do you use a usb adapter to interface to this serial device?
[05:33] <ArchZombie039423> Well I do not even see more than one entry for /dev/ttyUSB* and yes.
[05:33] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje im in
[05:33] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: then there is a know isue with usb serial adapter on 14.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2208751
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: you can try a realtime test with tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with usb/plover
[05:33] <KKEm> repair broken packages?
[05:33] <KKEm> or or or
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: try failsafeX first
[05:33] <KKEm> failsafeX?
[05:34] <KKEm> good
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: and choose low graphics mode
[05:35] <ArchZombie039423> Hum, okay, then that explains it.
[05:35] <KKEm> waiting for mounting
[05:35] <KKEm> mountall: fsck /boot [699] terminated with status 1
[05:35] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje ^
[05:36] <KKEm> reboot?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: if you cant reach to desktop, try again recoverymode, fix broken packages maybe
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did any ubuntu version work on your mobo grafix?
[05:37] <ArchZombie039423> Well I will just keep using this kernel for now, and I hope they fix it. If it is a known bug I guess they will get around to it some day.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: there are bug reporting packages in software centre
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: to make your bug report more easy
[05:38] <ArchZombie039423> Okay, I will look into that, thank you for the help.
[05:38] <greengy> helllo?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: if its a known bug, someone will link to duplicate bug anyway
[05:38] <Chuck_Norris> ArchZombie039423: just curious, what's your graphic card?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> greengy: yes?
[05:39] <greengy> hi, Iḿ trying to install ubuntu into my laptop dell xps and it doese recognize partitions
[05:40] <ArchZombie039423> I will try to get a useful log and post it where someone can read it. And on my laptop I am using Intel Ivy.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> greengy: you want ubuntu on full hd or dualboot?
[05:40] <greengy> dualboot for now
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> greengy: is this an uefi machine?
[05:40] <khaaan1> Geforce 610M 2GB, can anyone help me with prime etc ?
[05:40] <greengy> nope
[05:40] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje i rebooted and is now again stuck in failsafeX trying to reebot and run the recovery as you said
[05:40] <ArchZombie039423> With just the deaf fault drivers.
[05:41] <greengy> xps 15z is the model
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | khaaan1
[05:41] <ArchZombie039423> ^default
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: try the 'fix broken packages' from grub recoverymode
[05:41] <bubbasaures> greengy, Are you on the ubuntu live boot?
[05:42] <greengy> not right now do you need me to connect?
[05:42] <khaaan1> i want to know if I can disable nvidia and activate intel (i have a hybrid graphic card)
[05:42] <greengy> what can i do to solve?
[05:42] <bubbasaures> greengy, you will have to be on it to get help most likely, come to the channel from it.
[05:43] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje is it normal that this takes a lot of time+
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: yes, this can take a lot of time
[05:43] <greengy> ok i will
[05:43] <KKEm> omg
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: if this option did not work, your card might be too light for ubuntu
[05:43] <KKEm> maybe i should not have reebooted
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did any ubuntu version work on your mobo card?
[05:44] <KKEm> i have had ubuntu on it before
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: on same vga from motherboard?
[05:44] <KKEm> yep
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did it run smooth on grafix?
[05:45] <KKEm> yep
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: ok
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | greengy
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: you can tryout xubuntu or lubuntu just to test if you can bypass login
[05:46] <ArchZombie039423> Also, and this is more of a curiosity, why does Ubuntu work so poorly when the universe repository is removed?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: what do you mean poorly?
[05:46] <KKEm> yeah maybe i should
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: just to test if it runs smoother
[05:47] <ArchZombie039423>  Well the graphics for a lot of Apps get messed up, and things like this.
[05:47] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje i run Netrunner-os on another machine where i had same problem with after install
[05:47] <ArchZombie039423> And GDebi is half in that repo.
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: there's a solution for everything in ubuntu, running flawless on my side :p
[05:48] <ArchZombie039423>  Well, I mean if you turn universe off it breaks things.
[05:49] <ArchZombie039423> At least it did for me.
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: did you check your additional drivers section?
[05:50] <feba> Thanks for all the help bubbasaures!
[05:50] <ArchZombie039423> Well it was pics map or something, which is pre-installed, and seems to be needed by all GTK2 apps.
[05:51] <ArchZombie039423> But it was universe.
[05:51] <bubbasaures> feba, No problem, that is a bit of a unusual issue, we had to dig for it.
[05:51] <ArchZombie039423> *in universe.
[05:52] <feba> bubbasaures, I wonder, do you know why this came up out of the blue?
[05:52] <ArchZombie039423> I think this is not a bug, I am just curious why it works this way.
[05:53] <bubbasaures> feba, In that link I think the second post covers the window app that loads this to the mbr, I wonder myself how it got there, you had a running setup, kinda a mystery from this end.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: fixbrokenpackages still running?
[05:59] <KKEm> went to black screen
[05:59] <KKEm> trying kubuntu soon
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: press a key
[05:59] <KKEm> oh
[05:59] <KKEm> still at one line
[05:59] <KKEm> still at the same line
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: but is it moving?
[06:00] <KKEm> the _ is blinkin
[06:00] <KKEm> no movement othervise
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: time to try xubuntu/lubuntu
[06:01] <KKEm> kubuntu wont work ?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: by the way, did you install ubuntu with internet connection?
[06:01] <KKEm> no
[06:01] <KKEm> i wont let anyone see by Phase :D
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: its reccomended to cable on and updates during install
[06:01] <KKEm> trying that then
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: maybe try again ubuntu 14.04 with cable on/updates in setup
[06:02] <KKEm> ok m8
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: i should have asked in the first place :p
[06:02] <KKEm> properly xD
[06:02] <bubbasaures> shoot found the flexnet fix in the bootrepair app
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: if thats doesnt work, try kubuntu
[06:03] <KKEm> ook
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: its important to get the best drivers
[06:09] <KKEm> lotuspsychje can i install OpenVPN on ubuntu usb stic?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: you can use aptoncd to back up, not sure on usb
[06:10] <KKEm> so ptpp ok
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | KKEm
[06:11] <ZeGotinha> ping www.pmf.sc.gov.br
[06:11] <KKEm> is it importen to use a encrypted connection or will ubuntu download mgr take care of encryption?
[06:11] <ZeGotinha> ping -t www.pmf.sc.gov.br
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: whats your endgoal?
[06:13] <KKEm> well i cant really tell you that, can i?
[06:13] <KKEm> :P
[06:13] <curiousx> curl --write-out %{http_code} --silent --output /dev/null www.pmf.sc.gov.br   -.-
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | KKEm
[06:14] <KKEm> wow thank you, does it contain GPG keys??
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: it all depends whats important to you
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: apt-get download openvpn
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: that downloads the .deb
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: then drag n drop to usb
[06:16] <KKEm> ik  but thanks :)
[06:16] <KKEm> oh
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: i will be using that too, tnx for the question :p
[06:17] <KKEm> kewl m8 :D
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> even better then aptoncd
[06:18] <KKEm> well how do you intall it while you are installing ubuntu ?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: afterwards, click your .deb file to install
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: of course the fastest way is still installing manualy with apt-get install package
[06:19] <KKEm> i meen i need the connection to be with openvpn while i download the packeds on ubuntu install
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: you dont need openvpn to install ubuntu, your doing nothing wrong
[06:20] <KKEm> i know
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: ubuntu is opensource right
[06:20] <KKEm> but i want a secure connection for the packed download
[06:20] <Surendil> KKEm: dpkg -i file.deb for installing
[06:21] <Surendil> KKEm: if .deb is missing dependencies, apt-get install -f
[06:21] <KKEm> im tired of my isp watching me all the 4kin time :D
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: not sure if thats possible to tunnel ubuntu setup tru vpn
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !vpn
[06:22] <phunyguy> oh boy...
[06:22] <KKEm> its possible to set up a new connection with ptpp
[06:23] <KKEm> but thats easy to break its only 128 bit keys
[06:23] <phunyguy> you need a VPN connection with OpenVPN that has the default route set as the tunnel.  Nothing more complicated than that.
[06:23] <phunyguy> might be a better question for #openvpn
[06:23] <KKEm> no no no.. omg
[06:24] <KKEm> we was just talking about secure conneciton for ubuntu installtion downloads of packeds
[06:24] <phunyguy> my statement still stands.
[06:25] <KKEm> ok your statement still stands.
[06:25] <KKEm> wtf dude xD
[06:26]  * phunyguy scrolls up
[06:26] <KKEm> OMG IT WORKED
[06:26] <KKEm> i think
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: keep it polite mate
[06:27] <KKEm> lotuspsychje ofcause,  but it looks like the grapichs has changed
[06:27] <KKEm> let me see, first time logging in after install
[06:27]  * phunyguy is confused.... what are you trying to accomplish with OpenVPN, KKEm?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy: he has vpn connection, but wanted a secure ubuntu install
[06:28] <phunyguy> and I get the "wtf"?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> not sure if thats even possible
[06:28]  * phunyguy grumbles.
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:28] <praveen> I'm in....... :)
[06:28] <KKEm> lol
[06:28] <KKEm> but it is
[06:28] <praveen> I'm now leaving :(
[06:28] <KKEm> PPTP connection is possible
[06:28] <phunyguy> KKEm: what aspect of Ubuntu are you trying to secure
[06:29] <praveen> hi himanshu
[06:29] <Guest76949> hi
[06:29] <KKEm> phunyguy :) the download part
[06:29]  * praveen 
[06:29] <phunyguy> praveen: can we help you with something?
[06:29] <phunyguy> KKEm: as in, the installation of packages?
[06:29] <KKEm> lotuspsychje no, same problem as before.. next step trying kubuntu
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy: he wants the packages from ubuntu setup transfered over vpn, so his isp cant see
[06:30] <KKEm> phunyguy yes :)
[06:30] <phunyguy> KKEm: to you have a VPN provider?
[06:30] <KKEm> yep ofcause
[06:30] <phunyguy> KKEm: good, then like I said, ask the #openvpn channel how to redirect your default gateway through the openvpn tunnel.
[06:31] <phunyguy> it is beyond the scope of this channel.
[06:31]  * praveen is feeling sleey
[06:31] <KKEm> not the problem
[06:31] <phunyguy> KKEm: now you are just wasting time.
[06:31] <KKEm> yeah i know right
[06:31] <KKEm> no omg
[06:31] <KKEm> nvm then
[06:31] <phunyguy> it is 100% the fix.
[06:31] <phunyguy> I promise.
[06:32] <KKEm> problem is how i could install openvpn in ubuntu installation mode
[06:32] <phunyguy> you cannot securely
[06:33] <KKEm> afk gonna install kubuntu, wont waste your time phunyguy
[06:33] <KKEm> btw there is new from dubmood :)
[06:34] <phunyguy> k....
[06:36] <Kubius> hi
[06:37] <Kubius> I messed up - tried to switch from kubuntu to lubuntu and didn't do it right
[06:37] <Kubius> it still boots to kubuntu after removing kubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <Kubius> which is really weird and not good
[06:37] <phunyguy> yeah that has never been a good feature.
[06:37] <phunyguy> never really had god luck with it.
[06:38] <phunyguy> always end up with a fresh reinstall afterwards.
[06:38] <zy3pD_m> Kubius so use the lubuntu iso and reinstall
[06:38] <bubbasaures> Kubius, What desktops are in the login dropdown?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> fresh installs are the best
[06:38] <Kubius> bubbasaures: when the computer boots, it just boots to kubuntu
[06:38] <Kubius> doesn't even show me an option for lubuntu
[06:39] <bubbasaures> Kubius, Have you set it to auto login in/
[06:39] <phunyguy> Kubius: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, and removing it will not remove KDE
[06:39] <phunyguy> in fact, removing it doesn't actually remove anything.
[06:39] <Kubius> I'm trying to use the super big command from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[06:39] <Kubius> but I can't do that from command-line
[06:39] <phunyguy> read my previous comment
[06:40] <phunyguy> your install is probably too far gone.
[06:40] <bubbasaures> Kubius, What release is this, not many of those desktops lists there are on supported releases.
[06:40] <zy3pD_m> Use lubuntu iso to reinstall!!!
[06:40] <Kubius> 14.04 afaik
[06:40] <phunyguy> You guys are more than welcome to help... but I have been down thos road before.
[06:41] <phunyguy> this*
[06:41] <bubbasaures> Kubius, There is no 14.04 desktops removal list at psychocats.
[06:41] <Kubius> r i p
[06:41] <phunyguy> ^
[06:42] <phunyguy> it is always a dicey move going from *-desktop to *-desktop.
[06:47] <Kubius> I considered moving away to plain old debian
[06:47] <Kubius> but I like the software for ubuntu, and lubuntu's a lighter distro
[06:47] <Kubius> not quite as light as debian, but has more features
[06:49] <phunyguy> Kubius: I get that.... but going from Kubuntu back to Lubuntu..... that's a bit of a stretch
[06:50] <Kubius> I made a mistake installing Kubuntu
[06:50] <phunyguy> Kubius: my advise to you is to pick a distro and stick with it once you find one that you like.... Install it fresh, and enjoy for the next 10 years.
[06:50] <phunyguy> advise*
[06:50] <Kubius> I've worked with LXDE on the raspberry pi (raspbian) and it's nice
[06:51] <Kubius> I liked kubuntu but it was holy crap resource heavy
[06:51] <Kubius> netbook with 1.6GHz processor and 2GB of RAM
[06:51] <Kubius> about 60 or 70 percent of ram dedicated to k(etc) processes
[06:51] <phunyguy> conversation is a bit offtopic, but you get the idea.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> how do i make a .deb file from my installed sux (version 1.0.1-6, not supported for trusty anymore) ?
[06:53] <kungr> kubius: Im just starting on an atom netbook as well and i like lubuntu as well
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> !info sux precise
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> or how can i download this .deb?
[06:54] <noark> !info hping3
[06:54] <phunyguy> !msgthebot
[06:55] <OERIAS> does anyone know how to change the cursor?
[06:55] <phunyguy> OERIAS: a bit of context would help immensely
[06:56] <Kubius> that's like "how far does this knob have to be turned" in that you can't really tell with no context
[06:56] <OERIAS> I'd like to know if I can change the default in Unity
[06:56] <OERIAS> *default cursor
[06:56] <OERIAS> the mouse cursor
[06:56] <Kubius> mm
[06:57] <noark> for chage cursor edit this file : /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[06:58] <Lucax> I have a fun question, I installed ubuntu on another laptop and encrypted and put password on the hard drive, now I am currently not remembering the password, are there any mysterious ways to recover ones own passwords?
[06:58] <OERIAS> noark, how if permission is denied?
[06:59] <noark> sudo gedit /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[06:59] <phunyguy> OERIAS: with sudo
[06:59] <noark> in terminal
[06:59] <phunyguy> !sudo
[06:59] <OERIAS> I did it with sudo
[06:59] <phunyguy> noark: also NO.  That is a bad idea
[06:59] <phunyguy> !gksudo
[06:59] <noark> sudo nautilus
[07:00] <phunyguy> noark: stop that
[07:00] <noark> find file
[07:01] <OERIAS> what do i do and given two separate way of doing this
[07:01] <noark> chage line 2
[07:01] <noark> with name u new cursor name
[07:02] <phunyguy> ...
[07:02] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> How do I have the ubuntu machine share the internet connection over wifi to an android phone?
[07:02] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: hello
[07:03] <phunyguy> still here, fyi
[07:03] <Fudge> howdy
[07:03] <OERIAS> noark, when you mean new name, the name of the folder of the cursor or what?
[07:04] <phunyguy> Fudge: hi
[07:04] <noark> OERIAS name u cursor name
[07:05] <Fudge> j4s0nmchr1st0s:  pretty sure you can set up a shared access point
[07:05] <phunyguy> Fudge: before you commit to that, please keep in mind that hardware is a limitation here.
[07:06] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Fudge: the phone doesn't see adhoc
[07:06] <phunyguy> the laptop wifi needs to be able to go into Master mode.
[07:06] <Fudge> phunyguy:  thanx for heads up mate
[07:06] <OERIAS> thanks noark it works. Finally someone who doesn't have a high horse attitude.
[07:06] <phunyguy> OERIAS: please don't do that
[07:06] <OERIAS> Do what?
[07:06] <maddawg> wow i'm impressed
[07:07] <phunyguy> OERIAS: we are all volunteers here.
[07:07] <Fudge> I think he means be grateful without bitching at everyone else :)
[07:07] <maddawg> i was able to install from an ISO stored on my local hard drive in the US over the intenet to a server in Germany
[07:07] <phunyguy> Fudge: I know what he means.
[07:07] <OERIAS> I said thank you phunyguy the credit goes over to right person.
[07:07] <Fudge> easy to feel like that when you try to get help and some dont, but most will if they know
[07:07] <maddawg> then boot from it over the internet and install a fully operational VMWare ESXi
[07:08] <phunyguy> maddawg: is there a point?
[07:08] <phunyguy> maddawg: are you asking for support?
[07:08] <maddawg> no
[07:08] <phunyguy> maddawg: wrong channel then.
[07:08] <maddawg> i was saying i was impressed
[07:08] <maddawg> i'm impressed i was able to do that without an hiccup
[07:08] <phunyguy> .....this is a support channel.
[07:09] <noark> OERIAS welcome
[07:09] <maddawg> well someone's got a stick up their a$$
[07:09] <phunyguy> maddawg: you know where -offtopic is.
[07:09] <maddawg> it was a followup for a support issue i was having earlier
[07:09] <OERIAS> Fudge, also yes i am grateful, it you that has to use that language here.
[07:09] <phunyguy> maddawg: is that all?
[07:09] <maddawg> i dont need support any longer on the issue as I got it, i was indicating I was impressed that it worked
[07:10] <Fudge> hey OERIAS  it was not my intent to be a difficult person toward you btw
[07:10] <phunyguy> maddawg: how much earlier?
[07:10] <OERIAS> fudge then if it wasn't your intention I suggest you change your tone towards people.
[07:11] <maddawg> like 4 hours... maybe... it doesnt matter
[07:11] <OERIAS> Well anyway, thank you noark
[07:11] <maddawg> maybe even a bit longer
[07:11] <bubbasaures>  maddawg You need a blog, I'd name it daily pants.
[07:11] <Quixx> I want to go from 13.04 to 14.10, should I turn on updates and try to let the updater do all of the work or should I make a new root install and try to use my current /home partition?
[07:11] <phunyguy> maddawg: yeah I don't think so.
[07:11] <Quixx> actually 12.10
[07:11] <phunyguy> bubbasaures: you too.... let's keep it on topic.
[07:11] <maddawg> dont think so what?
[07:11] <phunyguy> if there is no support question.... please leave it out of the channel.
[07:12] <phunyguy> maddawg: I just searched 8 hours back in my bufffer.  nothing from you
[07:12] <phunyguy> so again, can we please drop it?
[07:12] <maddawg> yes because i use the same handle with every client i connect with from every machine
[07:12] <rww> !eolupgrades | Quixx
[07:12] <maddawg> but yes we can drop it
[07:12] <rww> Quixx: I'd suggest a reinstall, personally.
[07:13] <maddawg> i'm in here under 4 different handles because i have computers in a few different locations connected still
[07:13] <Quixx> So how should I go about transferring settings? The install is old and full of gunk but I'd like to keep some stuff
[07:13] <Quixx> Like firefox settings and virtualbox, for instance
[07:13] <maddawg> what settings?
[07:13] <maddawg> you can copy those
[07:13] <maddawg> but what type of firefox settings?
[07:13] <maddawg> like bookmarks? or actual settings?
[07:13] <Quixx> History, bookmarks, and in my case current tabs
[07:13] <maddawg> oh yea just export them
[07:13] <maddawg> then copy them
[07:14] <maddawg> using firefox
[07:14] <Fudge> OERIAS:  fair enough
[07:14] <Quixx> And it looks like I can make 33 not look like poop so I guess I'll be upgrading from 22 or whatever
[07:14] <Quixx> hopefully some of the ram leaks have been fixed~
[07:14] <maddawg> also virtual box all you need are the guest files
[07:14] <maddawg> like the virtual machine files
[07:14] <maddawg> just copy those somewhere and back after you reinstall
[07:14] <maddawg> if you need apache configs or other programs then copy those too
[07:15] <maddawg> each one should have a seperate config file
[07:15] <Quixx> I've got space to do a separate root install and keep my current home and root
[07:15] <Quixx> so I guess I should do that and then start copying
[07:15] <maddawg> alternatively you could make an image of your drive as it is so that when you find something you want you can just go back to the drive
[07:15] <maddawg> like if you find you're missing a config
[07:15] <Quixx> don't have the space
[07:15] <maddawg> you can search your old image
[07:15] <maddawg> you have cloud storage?
[07:16] <Quixx> I hate 'the cloud'
[07:16] <Quixx> Hard backups
[07:16] <maddawg> well then hard backups it is for you
[07:16] <maddawg> i dont mind the cloud for some things
[07:16] <Quixx> Cept when all of your drives are dead like now.... although I guess I do have a spare 3.5 I could back up to
[07:16] <maddawg> wouldnt store my company's stuff on it
[07:16] <Quixx> but I don't think I'd have too many issues just keeping things on the current drive with separate partitions
[07:18] <Quixx> Oh look it gives me tons of options when I open the installer
[07:18] <Quixx> Gosh linux is so easy to use nowadays
[07:18] <maddawg> nowadays?
[07:18] <Quixx> First time I used linux was 2004
[07:18] <Quixx> Fedora 4 had just come out, and network drivers were spotty at best
[07:18] <maddawg> i first started with unix
[07:18] <maddawg> then moved over to linux
[07:19] <Quixx> Of course I was also quite young back then and didn't have the attention span to learn command line
[07:19] <maddawg> but careful phunyguy will go off on you for being slightly offtopic
[07:19] <maddawg> we're just robots with no personality.. please spit your question out so we can regugitate answers
[07:20] <phunyguy> next step is a ban.
[07:20] <Fudge> egg :p
[07:20] <Quixx> I also love working from a live USB when I don't have to enter PW for sudo
[07:21] <Quixx> <3
[07:21] <maddawg> oh puhleeze.. bans dont scare me i got enough machines all over the planet and enough handles that i'd just come back
[07:21] <maddawg> i'm not on AOL
[07:21] <Quixx> rip maddawg
[07:21] <Flannel> maddawg: Please take the random chatter somewhere else, so this channel can remain usable for technical support, thanks.
[07:21] <phunyguy> I would highly suggest that you pay attention to the portion of the guidelines that mentions "Don't be annoying"...
[07:23] <Fudge> Quixx:  would you like a sed string to have sudo use nopasswd?
[07:23] <Quixx> Is there any reason for me to use EXT3/4? I seem to recall 4 being a huge pain if it breaks
[07:23] <phunyguy> Quixx: ext4 is just fine.
[07:24] <Fudge> if it does testdisk is an awesome utility
[07:24] <Quixx> I'll try that next time I plug in my might-b-ded drive
[07:25] <Quixx> um, so I want to learn sed?
[07:25] <Chuck_Norris> Quixx: http://cb.vu/unixtoolbox.xhtml   -.-
[07:26] <Quixx> ty for the bookmark Chuck_Norris
[07:26] <Chuck_Norris> Quixx: np
[07:26]  * Chuck_Norris is the man -.- :D xD
[07:27]  * phunyguy sweeps up all the offtopic chat into a trash bin to prepare for more guests that need help.
[07:28] <cristian_c> lapion, hi
[07:32] <kungr> anyone got experience with ubuntu on an atom netbook
[07:32] <Quixx> New or old?
[07:33] <kungr> sec. looking for specs
[07:34] <kungr> but old yes 2yrsish
[07:34] <Quixx> If it's a newer one (last 4 years) then 14.10 should work fine, if it's an old single core then maybe try some old unsupported one
[07:35] <kungr> n450 atom 1gb
[07:36] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> kids, find a solution to the android wifi problem, I need to step up the intensity of my mind training
[07:36] <Quixx> single core... ehhh I'd give 14.10 a try
[07:36] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: you are really pushing buttons here.
[07:36] <kungr> i installed 14.04 ubuntu with lubuntu,kubuntu, gnome, Xubuntu etc
[07:36] <Quixx> Oh, what's it doing then?
[07:37] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: does your wifi adapter support master mode?
[07:37] <Quixx> Also I've always had bad luck running multiple DMs on a single OS
[07:37] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: How can this be probed?
[07:37] <kungr> lubuntu is snappy but i like the gnome interface. is there a way to make it snapper via minimal install or kernel recompile or both?
[07:38] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode
[07:38] <Quixx> Gnome 3?
[07:38] <kungr> yep
[07:38] <cristian_c> kungr, sudo apt-get install mate-desktop
[07:38] <phunyguy> cristian_c: offtopic, etc
[07:38] <cristian_c> phunyguy, ?
[07:38] <Quixx> Yeah if there is a ubuntu distro that has gnome by default then I'd look for that... mint, maybe default ubuntu has gnome 3?
[07:39] <phunyguy> also mate is not snappier than lubuntu
[07:39] <kungr> I have a compiled kernel on my desktop 1000Mhz and low-latency setting
[07:39] <Quixx> I've always had horrible luck doing separate DMs on linux
[07:39] <bubbasaures> Quixx, There is a gnome shell only release
[07:39] <cristian_c> phunyguy, yes I know, but 'i like the gnome interface'
[07:39] <Quixx> Yeah do what bubbasaures said then
[07:40] <kungr> gnome shell only?
[07:40] <phunyguy> ubuntu-gnome
[07:40] <phunyguy> it is an officially supported release
[07:41] <phunyguy> !ubuntu-gnome | does this work?
[07:41] <phunyguy> \o/
[07:41] <kungr> ya i tryed that first but the screen resolution didn't work out of the box and i couldnt click through the install
[07:41] <kungr> ubuntu-gnome is my desktop distro
[07:41] <phunyguy> oh :(
[07:41] <kungr> maybe i will try again
[07:42] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: yes it supports AP according to iw list
[07:42] <phunyguy> well, wait, how old is this PC?
[07:42] <phunyguy> kungr: ^
[07:42] <kungr> toshisha nb305
[07:42] <phunyguy> that tells me nothing
[07:43] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> If there is 'AP' in the list of "Supported interface modes" your device will support the Access Point mode with hostapd.
[07:43] <Quixx> What are the other officially supported flavors again?
[07:43] <Quixx> !flavor
[07:43] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: then click on the wifi icon and create new wifi network
[07:43] <phunyguy> not sure if that will share out or not, but worth a shot.
[07:44] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: not the HotSpot scripts?
[07:44] <phunyguy> I have no idea what scripts you are talking about
[07:44] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: :) this option was not there before
[07:45] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: very phunny
[07:45] <Skyrider> Ello
[07:45] <Quixx> Also I just realized I've been installing i386 instead of amd64
[07:45] <Quixx> what's the easiest way to fix this?
[07:46] <phunyguy> from ISO?
[07:46] <Quixx> yes
[07:46] <phunyguy> reinstall.
[07:46] <Quixx> I'd prefer not to redownload a whole iso
[07:46] <phunyguy> .....you asked for the easiest.
[07:46] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: What is the difference between open system and shared key?
[07:47] <phunyguy> One is wide open.... one is not...
[07:47] <phunyguy> I would assume you want the latter
[07:47] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: How can it be wide open when wep is set?
[07:48] <Skyrider> remove the wep? >_>
[07:48] <phunyguy> ^
[07:49] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: have you seen this link?  May be exactly what you need..... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/wifi-hotspot-ubuntu-laptop-android/
[07:51] <Quixx> As I was saying, commiecast charges me more money if I download too many ISOs a month.
[07:51] <gansteed> is there a app that can send sms through ubuntu?
[07:51] <phunyguy> Quixx: not really our problem....?
[07:51] <gansteed> like the new features in Yosemite?
[07:51] <phunyguy> gansteed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/324040/how-can-i-send-sms-from-ubuntu-to-cell-phones
[07:51] <Quixx> So is there a way for the updater to change the kernel or am I out of options?
[07:51] <kungr> commiecast, thats funny
[07:52] <phunyguy> Quixx: reinstall
[07:52] <phunyguy> Quixx: they are too different
[07:52] <phunyguy> there really isn't any other option
[07:53] <gansteed> phunyguy: thanks
[07:54] <phunyguy> I apologize for being snappy.  It is nearly 3 AM and I should be getting to bed soon.
[08:11] <myt> hello!
[08:12] <myt> First time ubuntu user here
[08:13] <myt> coming to you without a hard drive
[08:14] <myt> can someone help guide me towards getting this computer running on my usb drive alone?
[08:15] <myt> Every time I turn the computer off, I turn it on to find that any changes I made to ubuntu aren't saved
[08:15] <cfhowlett> myt, 2 choices: install to USB or just live boot.  USB boot is quite unstable and slow compared to an HDD install.  How much RAM have you?
[08:15] <myt> software, configuration, file and folders, it's all reset
[08:16] <myt> this is only a temporary solution while I order a new hdd
[08:16] <myt> How do I check how much ram I've got?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> myt open a terminal and run the command:  free
[08:16] <myt> btw, should we carry on in PM?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> myt, this is OK for now
[08:17] <myt>    total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:17] <myt> Mem:       8053516    2828312    5225204     457836     269176    1416216
[08:17] <myt> -/+ buffers/cache:    1142920    6910596
[08:17] <myt> Swap:            0          0          0
[08:17] <cfhowlett> myt, right.  so less than 3 GB of ram.  My suggestion: get lubuntu.  it's lighter and optimized for low specification and older hardware.
[08:18] <myt> oh
[08:18] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | myt
[08:18] <Ben64> what?
[08:18] <Ben64> thats 8GB
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Ben64, DOH!  right.  wordwrap on my display.
[08:19] <myt> oh
[08:19] <myt> yeah it seems to have been running fine so far
[08:19] <cfhowlett> myt, OK, standard ubuntu will be fine.  consider installing to the USB with persistence.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[08:19] <Ben64> you'll have the best time if you get a hard drive though
[08:19] <myt> So is live boot what I'm doing now?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> myt, yes.  so every reboot it resets - as you have observed
[08:19] <myt> I used an installer which used an ISO, and it set up the usb drive to work with this laptop
[08:20] <myt> And I need to install ubuntu to the usb for that to cease?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> myt, you did right.  installing TO USB is a different function
[08:20] <cfhowlett> myt, right.  have you another USB?
[08:20] <daschel> im getting a segfault in gnome, and it crashes immediately.  is there a command line tool to post the Xorg log file to paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:20] <myt> no
[08:20] <cfhowlett> myt, well ... time to go shopping!
[08:20] <myt> why do I need another?
[08:21] <cfhowlett> myt, one to boot from, one to install to.
[08:21] <myt> ehhh
[08:21] <myt> is a 1 gig drive enough?
[08:21] <cfhowlett> myt, (all real *buntuistas have a USB collection somewhere ... :)
[08:22] <cfhowlett> myt, nope.  another 8 gb stick and install Lubuntu
[08:22] <myt> mmm
[08:22] <myt> what if I have another laptop?
[08:22] <myt> it's a windows
[08:23] <myt> Can't I use that the same way I set up the usb I'm using now?
[08:23] <myt> that is, do it on the other machine
[08:23] <cfhowlett> myt, nope.  to install TO buntu you need ubuntu to be running.  OR ... you could install virtualbox on the windows machine and install lubunto to the virtualbox
[08:24] <myt> all this just so the system doesn't reset every time I turn it off?
[08:24] <myt> also wasn't lubuntu unnecessary
[08:25] <cfhowlett> myt, virtualbox will not have 8 gb of ram --- it's a vbox.  4 gb more likely.
[08:25] <myt> im a bit lost now
[08:26] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: it is not working the options are there but it never establishes connection
[08:26] <myt> so the second usb drive needs to be 8gb also?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> myt, virtualbox = a virtual machine - vm.  A VM uses system resources while running.  so your HOST os is running, and the GUEST os needs resources while it is on.
[08:27] <myt> this is if I use my windows laptop and only the one usb right?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> myt, for an install to USB 8gb will be fine.  plain vanilla ubuntu is about 7. something
[08:28] <cfhowlett> myt, write notes.  1.  install to USB; get an 8 gb USB and lubuntu.
[08:28] <myt> right
[08:28] <cfhowlett> myt, 2.  install to virtualbox; download virtualbox, install it in windows.  get lubuntu.  install lubuntu to vbox.
[08:29] <myt> are 1 and 2 seperate approaches to this, or steps?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> myt, totally unrelated operations.  thus the 1 and 2 ...
[08:31] <myt> so if I do that juggling act with method 1, I'll end up with a usb drive with a full installation on it
[08:31] <myt> and if the os alone is 7gb, will an 8gb usb be enough?
[08:31] <cfhowlett> myt, yep.  but you'd also have a full install with vbox.
[08:32] <myt> but that's method 2 not 1
[08:32] <cfhowlett> myt, to be sure: lubuntu or xubuntu.  both are less demanding than ubuntu.  when do you buy your replacement HDD?
[08:32] <myt> why do I need a vm if I'm running lubuntu
[08:32] <myt> It might be another week
[08:32] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Do you know nilarimogard?
[08:32] <cfhowlett> myt, I said: Install virtualbox to WINDOWS.
[08:33] <myt> ya
[08:33] <cfhowlett> myt, long story short: boot windows.  vbox is an app.  start vbox and place *buntu in a VM.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> myt, no usb's needed
[08:34] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> myt: is nilarimogard's code clean?
[08:34] <myt> huh?
[08:34] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, programs in the software center are generally considered safe.  NOT repo software is not so well regarded..
[08:35] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> cfhowlett: it is a ppa
[08:35] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> is it clean
[08:35] <myt> cfhowlett, windows is on my laptop which has an hdd, I don't need *buntu on it because it already has an os. I just need *buntu on this laptop because windows is too large
[08:35] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, no idea.  but ppa's = you break it, you fix it.  not supported here.
[08:36] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> cfhowlett: then fix the ap mode
[08:36] <cfhowlett> myt, sounds like install to USB might be best
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !ppa | j4s0nmchr1st0s, cryptic.
[08:37] <myt> thanks for the help cfhowlett, this is just what I was looking for
[08:37] <cfhowlett> myt  happy2help
[08:38] <Chuck_Norris> myt: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[08:38] <myt> oh!
[08:38] <myt> norris, that's exactly what I used to get to this point
[08:38] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Fix the ap mode the chip supports it.
[08:38] <myt> So do I do that again?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> !hardware | j4s0nmchr1st0s, sounds like you have a hardware issue.
[08:39] <Chuck_Norris> no no, if you already have ubuntu in your usb, so go ahead and boot your usb
[08:39] <myt> boot your usb?
[08:40] <myt> boot from it, like I'm doing now
[08:40] <Chuck_Norris> yes
[08:40] <myt> but...it's not installed yet
[08:40] <myt> and I don't have an hdd
[08:40] <myt> So the system keeps reseting on shutdown
[08:40] <myt> It sounds like there's nothing I can do about it with my 8gb usb and laptop alone
[08:40] <myt> at the moment
[08:41] <Chuck_Norris> no no, can you start the ubuntu installer?
[08:41] <myt> yep
[08:41] <myt> install ubuntu 14.04
[08:41] <myt> it says
[08:41] <Chuck_Norris> so, when the installer asks you for the hdd, select your usb, that's all
[08:42] <myt> maybe you can walk me through this, because I tried to install, with that in mind, before I came here, and had no luck
[08:42] <Chuck_Norris> yes i can, just send me pictures -.-
[08:43] <myt> should I download updates while installing?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> myt, you cannot install to the same USB you booted from ...
[08:43] <myt> :(
[08:44] <Chuck_Norris> why not?
[08:44] <Chuck_Norris> go ahead myt
[08:44] <myt> I'm hearing two different things here
[08:45] <myt> I'll have it not install updates for now...I assume I can install them later if this works
[08:46] <cfhowlett> source = target while running a live system = you're gonna have a bad time.
[08:46] <Chuck_Norris> yes, you can updated your ubuntu latter
[08:46] <Chuck_Norris> nope, cause it's a virtual filesystem, i don't remember its name -.-
[08:47] <myt> so I'm on the installation type screen on the installer
[08:47] <myt> device for boot loader installation is /dev/sda
[08:47] <Chuck_Norris> well this is were you gotta chose you usb
[08:47] <Chuck_Norris> where*
[08:47] <myt> and the box at the top of the menu shows device, type, etc
[08:48] <myt> hm, it just closed when I clicked 'change'
[08:48] <myt> and nothing showed up in the list either
[08:48] <Chuck_Norris> i dont remember, but... if you send me pictures, i will
[08:48] <myt> how can I most easily do that?
[08:49] <Chuck_Norris> press "ImprPant" then upload the pictue to imgur.com
[08:51] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Increase psyops
[08:52] <daschel2> im getting a segfault when i try to start gnome 3. here's the tail of the Xorg log file:
[08:52] <daschel2> cat: 1: No such file or directory
[08:52] <daschel2> cat: /home/brian/temp2.txt: No such file or directory
[08:52] <daschel2> err
[08:52] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, ask your ubuntu questions
[08:52] <daschel2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8880201/
[08:52] <daschel2> has anyone seen this problem before?
[08:53] <daschel2> im stuck in the command line, so any assistance would be greatly appreciated
[08:54] <Ben64> daschel2: how are you trying to start x
[08:55] <daschel2> Ben64: by booting my machine.  restarting the gdm service doesn't work either
[08:55] <myt> cfhowlett, Chuck_Norris, http://i.imgur.com/nMnRxnG.png
[08:55] <Ben64> daschel2: should be lightdm
[08:55] <daschel2> Ben64: for gnome?
[08:56] <Chuck_Norris> myt: install now
[08:56] <myt> let's see...
[08:56] <myt> so even though nothing shows in the list above, it's alright?
[08:56] <Ben64> daschel2: yeah, unless you did something weird
[08:56] <Chuck_Norris> yeah, nothing show caouse you dont have any other hd
[08:57] <cfhowlett> myt, again: you cannot install to the same USB you booted from.
[08:57] <myt> no root system is defined
[08:57] <Chuck_Norris> cause*
[08:57] <myt> correct from partitioning menu
[08:57] <myt> sounds like cfhowlett is right
[08:57] <cfhowlett> myt, /dev/sda is typically the HDD ...
[08:58] <myt> I figured the folder structure would also exist on the usb
[08:58] <myt> why is it that you don't need two hdd's to do this, yet you need two usb's to do it?
[08:58] <Chuck_Norris> no no, cause you chose "something else"
[08:58] <cfhowlett> myt, folder does exist on the USB
[08:58] <myt> hm?
[08:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> How can I setup a tracking server?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> myt, your usb is housing your LIVE system.  it's off limits by default.
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !server | j4s0nmchr1st0s,
[08:59] <Chuck_Norris> there wasn't a option called "install ubuntu" then "Something Else"
[08:59] <Chuck_Norris> ?
[08:59] <myt> ?
[08:59] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> To analyze the zeitgeist data?
[08:59] <Chuck_Norris> myt: we could procede making manual partition if you -.-
[08:59] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> !releases
[08:59] <cfhowlett> myt, partitioning your boot USB, i.e. your mounted system, is a bad idea ...
[09:00] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> !current
[09:00] <Chuck_Norris> myt: do a click on "+"
[09:00] <daschel2> Ben64: maybe gdm is simply an alias? i've always used 'service gdm...'.  this is a fairly new machine (i built it 2-3 months ago) and didn't do anything too out of hte ordinary when i installed ubuntu.  regardless of what the service name is called i can't get into gnome
[09:00] <myt> hm
[09:00] <Ben64> daschel2: well did you ever have gui working
[09:00] <myt> i clicked + and the window closed
[09:00] <myt> same as when I clicked 'change' next to it
[09:01] <daschel2> Ben64: yes, it's never had a problem. and yesterday I didn't install any new packages.  The only thing I did was some programming.
[09:02] <daschel2> Well, i say it never had a problem, there's always been some conflicts with my graphics card
[09:02] <daschel2> but that was mainly with audio being recognized.  there is of course that Ubuntu/Gnome bug regarding monitor orientation with multiple displays
[09:02] <Chuck_Norris> myt: idk but, i pretty sure that i installed a puppy a couple of years ago onto a usb booting from it -.-
[09:03] <Chuck_Norris> !persistence | myt
[09:03] <daschel2> Ben64, and no, there is no lightdm.  I can't imagine why it would be.  the G in gdm stands for Gnome
[09:04] <myt> ah
[09:04] <myt> why haven't I tried this
[09:05] <Chuck_Norris> myt: oh! i know why the windows closed, cause first you gotta unmount the usb
[09:05] <myt> unmount it?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> pretty sure someone said that [09:06] <Chuck_Norris> myt: sudo umount /dev/sda
[09:06] <myt> but I can't...because the system is running on it
[09:06] <myt> won't I be out of business if I do that?
[09:07] <Surendil> morning everyone!
[09:07] <Chuck_Norris> no
[09:07] <lapion> cristian_c, you there ?
[09:07] <cristian_c> yes
[09:07] <lapion> Ya rang ?
[09:08] <cristian_c> lapion, I've makde the calculation you have said
[09:09] <lapion> I am not certain however if the system need a certain blocksize minimum ..
[09:09] <lapion> but did the seek I gave you work ?
[09:09] <cristian_c> lapion, I've looked at dd manpage, as well
[09:10] <cristian_c> lapion, values look wrong
[09:10] <cristian_c> lapion, yes, 2000+4000 = 6000, not c000
[09:10] <lapion> What are you talking about...
[09:11] <myt> Chuck_Norris, it now says not mounted
[09:11] <lapion> that's the seek
[09:11] <cristian_c> lapion, seek values for the dd command
[09:11] <cristian_c>        seek=N skip N obs-sized blocks at start of output
[09:11] <lapion> it seks till 6000 then starts writing so the next offset is 2000+6000+nextfiles
[09:11] <Chuck_Norris> myt: well, if you still got the windows opened then "Install now"
[09:12] <myt> do I need to do '+'?
[09:12] <Chuck_Norris> no need
[09:12] <myt> no root system is defined
[09:12] <cristian_c> lapion, I try to explain: first dd command is without seek value (I suppose offset is 0)
[09:12] <Chuck_Norris> ok, then "+"
[09:12] <myt> when I did the terminal command you gave me it then said unmount :  /dev/sda: not mounted
[09:13] <cristian_c> lapion, second dd command has got 0x2000 for seek value
[09:13] <lapion> yes first file ==0x2000 in size
[09:13] <myt> installer closed again Chuck_Norris
[09:13] <cristian_c> lapion, third dd command has got 0x2000+0x4000 seek value
[09:14] <cristian_c> lapion,  = 6000
[09:14] <cristian_c> lapion, fourth dd command has got 0x2000+0xc000 seek value
[09:14] <daschel2> hrm...im going to try something.  i'll be back
[09:14] <Chuck_Norris> myt: ok, sry, may be a good idea could be installing ubuntu from windows
[09:14] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> He is getting a segfault
[09:15] <myt> thanks for trying Chuck_Norris
[09:15] <cristian_c> lapion, 4000 + third .img filesize
[09:15] <cristian_c> I suppose
[09:15] <cristian_c> in bytes
[09:15] <lapion> cristian_c, yes
[09:15] <Chuck_Norris> there are installers for windows that download and install ubuntu in the usb
[09:15] <lapion> no cristian_c
[09:15] <cristian_c> uhm
[09:16] <Chuck_Norris> myt: let search for it
[09:16] <lapion> 2000+(4000+7000)==2000+c000
[09:16] <cristian_c> ok
[09:16] <myt> i'll be here
[09:17] <cristian_c> lapion, I suppose blocks are kB
[09:17] <Mr_Sheesh> uh c000 isn't == to 4000 + 7000?
[09:17] <Mr_Sheesh> b000 is tho
[09:18] <lapion> Mr_Sheesh, calculation mistake...
[09:18] <lapion> not actual mistake
[09:18] <Mr_Sheesh> unless you're doing base 15 :p OK
[09:18] <Mr_Sheesh> er not even in base 15, long day
[09:20] <lapion> cristian_c, device blocks are but the filesystem might have bigger clusters
[09:20] <lapion> so you'd have to round up to the nearest cluster
[09:20] <cristian_c> Mr_Sheesh, yeah, b000
[09:21] <lapion> 2000+(4000+8000)==2000+c000
[09:21] <cristian_c> ok
[09:21] <TheBigDeal> Morning
[09:21] <daschel> Ben64, in case you're curious, the problem was being caused from an unexpected device being plugged in before i tried to boot.
[09:21] <myt> did you say you were looking into something Chuck_Norris?
[09:21] <TheBigDeal> does lili support ubuntu 14.10?
[09:22] <TheBigDeal> or i should use unetbootin?
[09:22] <lapion> cristian_c, you would have to check also because sometime an image can be the beginning of a filesystem that is bigger than the size of the image
[09:23] <Surendil> lapion: cristian_c, trying to use dd to create usb boot?
[09:23] <cristian_c> lapion, sdcard own one filesystem (fat32)
[09:23] <cristian_c> Surendil, sdboot
[09:23] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[09:23] <cristian_c> *owns
[09:23] <lapion> yes Surendil for risc processor
[09:24] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, lili is third party you will have to figure which works best.
[09:24] <lapion> cristian_c, you have been writing to the sdcard so the original filesystem is gone..
[09:24] <cfhowlett> bubbasaures, unetbootin works as does startup disk creator
[09:24] <Surendil> lapion: cristian_c try this: sudo dd if=path/to/.iso of=/dev/sdx oflag=direct  bs=1048576
[09:24] <fancyfetus> Do you know of any good ways of opening emails over SSH?
[09:24] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, what do you mean?
[09:24] <bubbasaures> cfhowlett, and about 10 others
[09:25] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, use the one that works.
[09:25] <lapion> Surendil, all different risc images not iso image
[09:25] <cristian_c> lapion, in this case the filesystem is deleted, you are right, i've checked in gparted (my previous tries)
[09:25] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, lili says no configuration file found in boot
[09:25] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: I guess you can run a browser in ssh session and read your yahoo from that
[09:26] <Chuck_Norris> myt: yes, another mistake it's the same as unetbooting, sry i was banned here too much time without trying to help so... -.-
[09:26] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, Never used it myself, you easiest route is making sure the iso is good and using a usb loader that works, you may have to try several.
[09:26] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, I've never used ssh before... It's a way to access one of my school emails. It uses Thunderbird, I think.
[09:26] <bubbasaures> your*
[09:27] <cristian_c> Surendil, in the other dd commands there are conv and seek parameters
[09:27] <myt> so what's the consensus Chuck_Norris?
[09:27] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: as long as X is active in the ssh session you should be able to bring up most any app that runs in X from ssh
[09:28] <fancyfetus> would the server have to have X or the client?
[09:28] <fancyfetus> it's all command line for me right now and I have no clue which commands I have access to.
[09:28] <Surendil> cristian_c: i'm checking out!
[09:28] <cristian_c> victorhugoquero_, sorry, I'm using nopriv
[09:28] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: oh yes the other side would have to have the desktop libs to run them
[09:28] <cristian_c> victorhugoquero_, wait a moment
[09:29] <victorhugoquero_> hola cristian  how are yuo ?
[09:29] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: you client side must also have X to resolve it
[09:29] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, I can see the damn Thunderbird mail folders :( But I don't know what to do with them.
[09:29] <cristian_c> VoidWhisperer_, so, you are in whitelist, now :)
[09:29] <cristian_c> you can query me
[09:29] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: there are also text mail sessions
[09:29] <cristian_c> victorhugoquero_, so, you are in whitelist, now :)
[09:30] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, that'd be fine
[09:30] <victorhugoquero_> who spiker  in  spanish here please
[09:30] <Chuck_Norris> myt: cfhowlett was right :P and... i think you can do nothing but use that usb as "live cd" if you have ubuntu in the other PC, well, may be you can do the persistence method described in ubuntuwiki
[09:30] <cfhowlett> !es | victorhugoquero_
[09:30] <myt> is there anything keeping me from doing the persistence method now?
[09:30] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, is there a way to check to see if the client has X?
[09:31] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: text method http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_Mail.htm
[09:32] <daschel> fa
[09:32] <victorhugoquero_> join ubumtu es
[09:32] <Chuck_Norris> yes, due to the lack of another hd
[09:32] <cristian_c> lapion, ok, -rw-r--r-- 1 cristian cristian 1674294 mag 20 01:53 boot.img
[09:32] <cristian_c> sorry
[09:32] <victorhugoquero_> no d resultado  amigo
[09:32] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: you are the client so you should know if you have X as you must have a graphic screen
[09:33] <victorhugoquero_> ubottu no  da  resultado
[09:33] <cristian_c> lapion, the proper file: -rw-r--r-- 1 cristian cristian 4194304 mag 20 01:55 sdboot_rk3188.img
[09:34] <Chuck_Norris> myt: do you have a cd drive?
[09:34] <cristian_c> lapion, so, 4194304 I suppose they are bytes, so they are 4194 kB
[09:34] <myt> yes
[09:34] <Chuck_Norris> i meant in the same notebook
[09:35] <myt> yes
[09:35] <cristian_c> lapion, but this is a higher value than boot.img (1674 kB)
[09:35] <lapion> cristian_c, 4194304/1024=4096
[09:35] <cristian_c> :O
[09:35] <cristian_c> ok
[09:35] <Chuck_Norris> myt: well, download and make a booteable dvd with ubuntu, then boot from the dvd, plug the usb and run the installer
[09:35] <Chuck_Norris> this time it will work
[09:36] <Chuck_Norris> myt: plug the usb drive*...
[09:36] <lapion> Please pastebin all filesize values and the dd-s you did till now
[09:36] <lapion> cristian_c,
[09:36] <cristian_c> lapion, ah, ok, not / 1000, but / 1024, ok
[09:37] <cristian_c> lapion, ok
[09:37] <myt> doesn't need to be a dvd disk right
[09:37] <myt> cd-r or cd-rw is okay
[09:37] <myt> ?
[09:37] <Ben64> myt: doesn't fit on a cd
[09:37] <myt> oh
[09:37] <myt> so dvd then
[09:38] <lapion> Ben64, it does if he has a plextor and tweaks the writing proces.. plextor can write up to 1.2G on a 800MB cd
[09:39] <lapion> Ben64, 720MB disc
[09:39] <Generator_> I have a php script, i need to run this as a process, so I can start stop restart it using "services myjob start" etc commands. What is the best way to do this ?
[09:40] <myt> thanks Chuck_Norris
[09:40] <Chuck_Norris> myt: yes a dvd because ubuntu is 1 gb or so
[09:40] <cristian_c> lapion, http://pastebin.com/JY30mBHv
[09:40] <myt> and maybe I'll do that with lubuntu
[09:40] <Chuck_Norris> myt: np, sry believe i was good at support, but now, i am very bad xD
[09:41] <myt> maybe it'll encourage more efficient communication via the usb port
[09:42] <Chuck_Norris> myt: what is the processor?
[09:43] <myt> how do I check?
[09:43] <Skyrider> I really hate to ask it.. especially because the tons of debian/ubuntu discussions.. but I would like to see personal opinions on the matter.. I'm still currently on Debian, but might move over to ubuntu.. as said, personal opinions would be appreciated regarding the ubuntu OS.
[09:43] <Chuck_Norris> myt: lscpu
[09:44] <Chuck_Norris> myt: make a paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <lapion> cristian_c, blocksize =512
[09:44] <myt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8881148/
[09:45] <cristian_c> lapion, bs= ?
[09:45] <inerkick> Hi I am not able to change my password. Whenever I give it is not accepting. Kindly help how to remove password at this moment
[09:45] <Chuck_Norris> myt: yes, definitely "lubuntu" or "xubuntu"
[09:46] <matviy> "Please enable a repository containing the [grub-efi-amd64-signed] packages in the software sources of Ubuntu 14 LTC (sda5) and then try again" <---WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
[09:46] <myt> and when I finally get my hdd, normal ubuntu will be okay?
[09:47] <matviy> they want me to go into sda5 and enbale the sources? They want me to enable the sources on the current live os? i have no idea
[09:47] <lapion> nope cristian_c just take into account that dd is using 512 k block and the files are in 1024 multiples.. 0xc000+(0x663*2) = 0xccc6
[09:47] <lapion> so 0x2000+0xccc6
[09:48] <cristian_c> Last message I've read before disconnection * Guest36434 è uscito (Client Quit)
[09:48] <popey> matviy: that looks like a boot-repair error message
[09:49] <lapion> however if boot.img contains the beginning of a file system it could be that you have move beyond the end of the size of the contained file system size
[09:49] <cristian_c> uhm
[09:49] <lapion> nope cristian_c just take into account that dd is using 512 k block and the files are in 1024 multiples.. 0xc000+(0x663*2) = 0xccc6
[09:50] <lapion> so 0x2000+0xccc6
[09:50] <cristian_c> ok
[09:50] <lapion> the messages you missed
[09:50] <matviy> popey: it is. It's a nightmare i have no idea waht im doing
[09:50] <lapion> cristian_c, what are you using as a client ?
[09:50] <cristian_c> ok, I understand
[09:50] <Chuck_Norris> sry myt could you do click in the upper right corner then in "about computer" or something like this sry i don't have Unity
[09:51] <lapion> cristian_c, what are you using as a IRC client ?
[09:51] <cristian_c> lapion, xchat
[09:51] <myt> then?
[09:51] <cristian_c> no, a simple disconnetion, now finisched
[09:51] <lapion> cristian_c, okay unstable conxion ?
[09:51] <cristian_c> *finished
[09:51] <popey> matviy: bit out of scope for this channel, I don't know where boot-repair support happens...
[09:51] <cristian_c> lapion, in this moment all is ok
[09:51] <cristian_c> lapion, I've inderstood ypur explanation :)
[09:51]  * lapion was asking in general..
[09:52] <Chuck_Norris> myt: take a picture and upload it
[09:52] <myt> Chuck_Norris, Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM CPU @ 2.40GHz × 8
[09:52] <matviy> popey: from my searching, i don't think it happens anywhere
[09:52] <myt> that all you need?
[09:52] <Chuck_Norris> myt: well, you can run anything you want in there
[09:53] <cristian_c> lapion, a last thing, how can i must edit the dd commands I pasted before (pastebin)?
[09:53] <cristian_c> :)
[09:53] <myt> what do you mean, Chuck_Norris?
[09:53] <imLOST> how is it going ?
[09:53] <Chuck_Norris> myt: i would suggest you gnome-shell
[09:53] <cristian_c> *the four dd commands
[09:53] <myt> is that a terminal command?
[09:53] <lapion> cristian_c, however given that for parameter.img the skip is 2000 you better do 0xc000+2000
[09:54] <lapion> cristian_c, however given that for parameter.img the skip is 2000 you better do 0xc000+0x2000
[09:54] <Chuck_Norris> myt: that no need to run a lightweight distro, you can run every Desktop Enviroment in that notebook
[09:54] <lapion> cristian_c, so 0x2000+0xe000
[09:54] <myt> what about a windows vm?
[09:54] <cristian_c> lapion, I think 0x2000 it's a wrong value, because, -rw-r--r-- 1 cristian cristian     412 mag 20 02:25 parameter.img
[09:54] <myt> I could wait on the vm until I'm using an HDD
[09:55] <cristian_c> ah, sorry, my bad
[09:55] <lapion> cristian_c, quite possible the system looks for it's info every 4MB
[09:56] <KKEm> lotuspsychje LOL
[09:56] <cristian_c> lapion, the current dd command says 4000 for parameter.img
[09:56] <cristian_c> but ls show 412 bytes
[09:56] <KKEm> lotuspsychje i just tried to install kubuntu after 1 minute it fade to "ram removed screen" :D
[09:56] <Chuck_Norris> no it is not, "Gnome Shell" is a Desktop Enviroment, it is something like this :P  http://i.imgur.com/XAQZ5Y6.png
[09:56] <Chuck_Norris> myt: ------^
[09:57] <lapion> cristian_c, where can I find the file where they told you what seek to use ..
[09:59] <cristian_c> lapion, I've posted the link in query
[09:59] <lapion> I have looked at your private chat.. next time not without asking
[09:59] <cristian_c> lapion, ok
[10:00] <lapion> I am of to the pot
[10:00] <cristian_c> lapion, sorry, but I can't paste external links in channel, next time I ask before
[10:01] <Ben64> cristian_c: yes you can paste links here
[10:01] <Inoki> Anyone can recommend good font management software?
[10:03] <KKEm> lotuspsychje LOLOLOL now it got it right (interface)
[10:06] <Dynamit> Hello, was up
[10:23] <Kul> ok hello to the ubuntu gods
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Hi Kul
[10:23] <Kul> i literally just installed
[10:26] <Kul> Hello Action
[10:27] <Kul> Does anyone in ubuntu land know the best antivirus and security software to use / install?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !antivirus | Kul
[10:28] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is anybody else having problems connecting to https://order.dominos.com ?
[10:28] <Kul> thanx cf and especially obottu
[10:28] <m1dnight> when I have a tmux running and I add myself to a group (e.g., video), i detach from screen, logout and log back in I can see the group using 'id' in shell, but when I attach to tmux it doesnt show the group
[10:28] <m1dnight> is that correct?
[10:28] <Kul> ubottu
[10:28] <cfhowlett> Kul, happy2help
[10:29]  * cfhowlett adds one more name to the xchat /ignore list
[10:29] <utack> can i just "dd" the ubuntu image to a usb drive when i want to boot in in bios (not uefi) pc? or does that only work with uefi machines
[10:30] <cfhowlett> utack, creation of the bootable usb and the bios/boot settings are unrelated.  dd can work, but you might find ubuntu startup creator unetbootin easier to use
[10:31] <utack> cfhowlett thanks. i guess i'll use dd since i know it is very reliable iwth uefi.
[10:33] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> dd
[10:33] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> yes there are some very interesting dd tools out there
[10:33] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> I want to have it for myself.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> utack: the ISO is hybrid so dd to USB will make a bootable device
[10:34] <utack> cool thanks
[10:37] <imLOST> hi
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Hi imLOST
[10:38] <darkmutt> hello, I've got a question to all of You who know their GUI, my chromium browser with pepper flash and adblock installed makes the ubuntu GUI 'hang' as in the sense of the fact that I cannot click
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> darkmutt: have you tried disabling adblock and testing?
[10:39] <darkmutt> on anything ASIDE from the browser itself [not even the upper most menu with exit/minimize/etc.] nor can I switch views/windows, only open or close current chromium one
[10:39] <darkmutt> ActionParsnip: that kind of behaviour can be coming from adblock itself? wouldn't suspect that but will test immediately, brb
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> darkmutt: its free to test, it will help isolate the issue
[10:41] <Novice201y> Hello. I did "dd" on usb pendrive, and after reboot this pendrive is not seen, even with "df". What can I do?
[10:41] <ikonia> Novice201y: it won't mount it
[10:41] <ikonia> Novice201y: dd is an "image" or a block by block copy, it doesn't mount that
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Novice201y: did you safe remove the device after you wrote the data?
[10:41] <Novice201y> ActionParsnip, I think not.
[10:42] <ikonia> what was the source you dd'd
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Novice201y: does it show the device in: sudo fdisk -l
[10:42] <Chuck_Norris> Novice201y: format that pendrive to ext4 -.-
[10:42] <ikonia> hang ong
[10:42] <ikonia> on
[10:43] <ikonia> Novice201y: what was the source of the dd
[10:43]  * ActionParsnip hnangs
[10:43] <Novice201y> ActionParsnip, It does, as Hidden.
[10:43] <Novice201y> ikonia, Linux distro .iso
[10:43] <ikonia> Novice201y: ok - so that's not going to mount
[10:43] <ikonia> Novice201y: that is an "image"
[10:43] <ikonia> it has compressed file systems on squash fs, it's not a file system
[10:43] <ikonia> it won't mount
[10:43] <ikonia> (not as you expect)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Novice201y: I'll let ikonia deal. He seems to have some ideas :-)
[10:45] <leonardo__> hello
[10:45] <Novice201y> ikonia, I'll do rest by myself. Thank You, also ActionParsnip
[10:46] <ikonia> the rest ?
[10:46] <darkmutt> dangit it's not just chromium after all, it starts hanging that way even if I start something as 'simple' as a Xterm/UXterm
[10:46] <ikonia> what is it you are actually trying to do ?
[10:46] <Novice201y> ikonia, It was strange to me, that pendrive hasn't been mounted. Thank to You I know why.
[10:51] <bloodcage> hey guys
[10:52] <basil1x> Hullo.
[10:55] <TheBigDeal> Hi i want to install ubuntu in a formatted partition of 140GB
[10:55] <TheBigDeal> is that possible
[10:55] <ikonia> yes
[10:56] <TheBigDeal> alongside with windows
[10:56] <ikonia> ubuntu requires a minimum of approx 4GB, so 140GB would be fine
[10:56] <victorhugoquero> hola  por favor alguien habla   español
[10:56] <ikonia> TheBigDeal: you'll need to partition the disk for a windows area and an ubuntu area
[10:56] <ikonia> !install | TheBigDeal
[10:56] <ikonia> TheBigDeal: ubottu just sent you a link explaining how to install, including dual boot
[10:57] <TheBigDeal> ikonia, i did i partitioned my two hdds
[10:57] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: yes many people do so. I recommend installing Windows first before you install Ubuntu. and what ikonia said. =)
[10:57] <bloodcage> the most easiest way maybe installation with an live-cd or per USB-Stick alongside Windows
[10:57] <bloodcage> It never was that easy
[10:57] <ikonia> TheBigDeal: so what part are you not clear on / what do you need help with ?
[10:57] <TheBigDeal> i have an ext4 140gb partition
[10:58] <TheBigDeal> ikonia, so now i need to partitionize this 140gb to two partitions or what?
[10:58] <TheBigDeal> swap and /
[10:58] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: the live install / usb will guide you though a multiboot.
[10:58] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: it will detect windows.
[10:58] <ikonia> TheBigDeal: you can slice it up as you feel best, a swap partition is normally a good layout for most, so yes
[10:59] <victorhugoquero> necesito actualizar mi sofware
[10:59] <x42> sure
[10:59] <Chuck_Norris> !es | victorhugoquero
[10:59] <lapion> cristian_c, after you have done those writes you should be able to boot the system to test..
[11:00] <cristian_c> lapion, ok but there is a problem
[11:00] <TheBigDeal> okay
[11:00] <lapion> cristian_c, what is the problem ?
[11:00] <cristian_c> lapion, if dd command uses a 512 k blocksize, and parameter.img is smaller than it
[11:00] <victorhugoquero> chuck norris  hello  how are you
[11:01] <lapion> cristian_c, the rockchip looks at certain offsets on the disk
[11:01] <cristian_c> uhm
[11:01] <Chuck_Norris> aloha victorhugoquero, i am fine, how could i help you?
[11:01] <cristian_c> lapion, I'm trying to figure out how to edit the four dd commands
[11:02] <cristian_c> waht values I've to use, for example
[11:02] <Ben64> cristian_c: you've been at this for days now, what is the deal? is this really related to ubuntu?
[11:04] <shadowe989> Ben64: If he is using ubuntu and not developing an application should be ok, I personally don't mind but I agree ##Linux might be a better place.
[11:04] <shadowe989> Ben64: if that is the case, I haven't been paying attention lately.
[11:05] <Ben64> its been 3 days of the same exact question, 28+ days of related queries
[11:05] <cristian_c> shadowe989, he is a known troll, just ignore it
[11:05] <shadowe989> Ben64, cristian_c: oh thanks. =)
[11:05] <Ben64> not true
[11:06] <cristian_c> shadowe989, by the way, in many channels he bother users with stupid things and i've found many months ago (I didn't know him), he corrupted my sd card
[11:07] <ikonia> Ben64: is not a "known troll" - he is a valued member of the channel and I suggest you pay attention to his decice
[11:07] <ikonia> advice
[11:07] <lapion> cristian_c, do you want to install ubuntu on your rockchip device ?
[11:11] <TheBigDeal> What are the filesystems that ubuntu can't reorganizes?
[11:12] <TheBigDeal> only ntfs?
[11:12] <shadowe989> ikonia: oh I read what they was saying wrong. I've seen you here for at least a year. Thanks for clearing that up. Its early here.
[11:12] <_war10ck1> TheBigDeal: NTFS is recognised by Ubuntu
[11:12] <ikonia> TheBigDeal: ubuntu can use ntfs
[11:12] <Chuck_Norris> TheBigDeal: do you wanna do a manual instalation?
[11:12] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: I'm using it right now for storage on another system.
[11:13] <Ben64> TheBigDeal: this is a handy table http://gparted.org/features.php
[11:13] <TheBigDeal> But you need a third-party software to access ntfs partitions, no?
[11:13] <Chuck_Norris> TheBigDeal: yes
[11:13] <ikonia> !ntfs TheBigDeal
[11:13] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: Not with ubuntu 12.04 or higher. (I can't say for others.
[11:13] <ikonia> no, you don't need 3rd party software
[11:13] <ikonia> the software is included in the repos
[11:13] <TheBigDeal> okaaay
[11:13] <Chuck_Norris> ntfsprogs or something similar like ntfs-3g -.-
[11:14] <TheBigDeal> Chuck_Norris, No new movies :P?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: its been in the kernel for a while now
[11:15] <shadowe989> ikonia: I actually don't recall even needing to get anything from the repos. But I may be remembering wrong, only time I had to get FS related stuff is software raid.
[11:15] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, ok
[11:15] <ikonia> shadowe989: I think it's installed by default now
[11:15] <shadowe989> ikonia: ah nice
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: just be sure the NTFS is healthy and if it is on USB, be sure you safe remove before physically unplugging
[11:16] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, hm, i'm on 14.10
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: so?
[11:16] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, I mean, that would be great :P
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: you still need to safe remove. If the NTFS is on an internal drive then run a chkdsk if you cannot access it
[11:17] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, where?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: in Windows
[11:17] <TheBigDeal> and who said that i'm on windows or have
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: then you will need it to run the chkdsk
[11:18] <TheBigDeal> hm
[11:18] <TheBigDeal> NTFS does implies windows
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: if you aren't using Windows,  why use NTFS at all..
[11:19] <shadowe989> ActionParsnip: some people use it for flash drives that they have to take to the office.
[11:19] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, actually i do, i use NTFS and windows
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> shadowe989: I guess
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> shadowe989: personally, I use an SFGP server. No clumsy USB for me :-)
[11:20] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: ok so you have a hard drive thats not detected.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> *SFTP
[11:20] <TheBigDeal> shadowe989, in Ubuntu yes
[11:20] <TheBigDeal> shadowe989, a partition actually
[11:20] <TheBigDeal> instead of an hdd
[11:20] <shadowe989> ActionParsnip: Me too, but some people just dont have the stuff to read ext4 without installing stuff sadly.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: is it USB based?
[11:21] <TheBigDeal> nope, integrated
[11:21] <TheBigDeal> I mean internal
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: looks like you'll need the chkdsk imho
[11:22] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: sudo lshw
[11:22] <TheBigDeal> ok
[11:22] <lapion> I am sorry but I would advice against using an NTFS filesystem as an active filesystem for the fuse implementation for it can bring a system to it's knees
[11:23] <shadowe989> TheBigDeal: it will list the hardware in your computer. See if its on that list. If its not it maybe not functional. If it isn't i will help you continue.
[11:23] <shadowe989> if it is*
[11:30] <opah> mlm all
[11:31] <johncarper> I currently have 1 Ubuntu server running and planning to get a second one but with a different distribution to get familiar with a different one also, Would CentOS be a good choice for me?
[11:32] <basil1x> CentOS is a sensible distro.
[11:32] <basil1x> you might consider openSuSE as well.
[11:32] <shadowe989> johncarper: CentOS is very popular in the server area. Its for lack of a better word: clone a open version / clone of Redhat.
[11:32] <basil1x> Avoid Mageia... too oddball.
[11:33] <johncarper> Ok, thank you
[11:34] <onla> I accidentally close my applications when I right click their menu item and when I release the right mouse button it is highlighting the "close" and it closes it on release
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> johncarper: see what it does and if it siits your needs
[11:36] <johncarper> ActionParsnip: yep
[11:36] <AlecTaylor> hi
[11:36] <onla> any solution to remove my accidentalness
[11:39] <Novice201y> Question: Why mksub assumes that my pendrive is as /dev/sdbX , when it's acutally /drv/sdb?
[11:39] <Novice201y> mkusb*
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Novice201y: /dev/sdbX is the partition(s) on /dev/sdb
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Novice201y: /dev/sdb is the device you can hold and touch
[11:43] <Novice201y> ActionParsnip, That's right. I mean that mkusb assumes sdX, not sdb.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> !info mkusb
[11:46] <Generator_> I have a php script, i need to run this as a process, so I can start stop restart it using "services myjob start" etc commands. What is the best way to do this ?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Novice201y: doesn't seem to be a package, how did you install it?
[11:47] <Wulf> Generator_: write an upstart job
[11:47] <streulma> hello, I have a HP 17 f060nb and fans are not recognised
[11:47] <streulma> also not in sensors
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Novice201y: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb may help, seems its from a PPA, in which case, contact the PPA maintainer
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> streulma: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:48] <streulma> ActionParsnip: oh, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[11:49] <streulma> ActionParsnip, also no PWM
[11:50] <streulma> only coretemp is recognised
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> streulma: I don't know what PWM is, let me check. Do you have the latest BIOS?
[11:52] <streulma> yes
[11:53] <streulma> acpitz-virtual-0 and coretemp-isa-0000
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> streulma: could try the Utopic kernel to see if its better, otherwise report a bug
[11:54] <streulma> does it work?
[11:54] <streulma> which one from mainline?
[11:55] <bewees> How do I uninstall a program that I installed from source without using a package manager? The source code doesn't provide an uninstall script. Should I just read the install paths from config-host.mak and delete the files manually?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> streulma: the one that matches your Ubuntu's architecture
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> bewees:  use checkinstall and you can make a deb of your efforts
[12:01] <jarno> I have a server running with a few expansion slot covers missing, what would happen if a spider crawled into my computer?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> jarno: it wouldnt be far from the worlds first "bug" (look it up)
[12:04] <jarno> ActionParsnip:  haha :)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> jarno: exactly ;)
[12:08] <Aldi_> Hey guys im having a problem, my home server Ubuntu 14.04 got hacked, I can see in fail2ban that they bruteforced my ssh account
[12:09] <Aldi_> Would it be safe to backup all my files on there?
[12:09] <Aldi_> and do a reinstall
[12:11] <Guest27987> I've got a major problem, unfortunately
[12:12] <Guest27987> my keyboard won't respond anymore when I have to enter the passphrase to my LVM full disk encryption
[12:12] <skao> Aldi: are you sure they got into the server? usually fail2ban is used to exaclty prevent bruteforcing
[12:12] <Guest27987> Even CTRL-ALT-DEL won't have an effect. The screen isn't frozen, though, since it's still "blinking" where you input text.
[12:12] <Guest27987> I'm completely shut out of my system. I appreciate any help!
[12:12] <Aldi_> yeah I can see a succesfull login from another remote ip which is not mine
[12:13] <skao> ouch :( sorry for you
[12:13] <skao> root access or just useraccess?
[12:13] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Aldi_: send them a privmsg
[12:14] <Aldi_> They used my normal account and used that to get acces to the root account
[12:14] <skao> Aldi: to be honest, i'd burn everything and start from scratch unfortunately
[12:14] <Skyrider> How'd they know your username?
[12:16] <Aldi_> I think someone sniffed my account name when I was using an unsecure wifi at college
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Aldi_, yep.  reinstall and change all your account passwords
[12:17] <Aldi_> So it would not be an option to backups all my movies etc?
[12:18] <Aldi_> since it's like 12 tb of movies/series is still need
[12:18] <IdleOne> you don't need network access to backup your data. unplug the internet, backup, format and reinstall
[12:20] <ryalleta> hello cant get sound on xubuntu
[12:21] <ryalleta> sound on xubuntu?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Aldi_, oh, back up your data for sure!
[12:22] <cfhowlett> Aldi_, but you still need to lock down all your accounts
[12:22] <Aldi_> Would it be safe? maybe the hacker putted some virus or malware inside of it
[12:22] <cfhowlett> Aldi_, always a risk.  OR you could dump all your saved info and start over ...
[12:24] <Aldi_> how do you mean dump?
[12:24] <Marqin> hi, is there any Ubuntu upstart remix?
[12:24] <Marqin> (withotu systemd)
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Aldi_, delete, format, wipe = gone byebye
[12:27] <sacarlson> Aldi_: remind you a file has to be executable to have a virus. so you movies can't have any
[12:28] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, ?  .pdf and word macros have both been compromised - as have regular picture files ... I may have to disagree with you.
[12:29] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: how can something without executable privs run any thing.  not that they can't contain an something that could run if set
[12:30] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: macros you might have something on those
[12:30] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, :)   so to aldi's query: delete that 12 TB or film or keep ...
[12:30] <EriC^^> sacarlson: cfhowlett as far as i know macros are in ms office
[12:31] <EriC^^> and they ask you if you want to run it with macros enabled or not
[12:31] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: Aldi_ EriC^^ keep the movies
[12:36] <sacarlson> Aldi_: but do watch out for software like mine called backdoor https://github.com/sacarlson/Backdoor
[12:39] <Sony> Hi, I have a question about apache server, can anyone help?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> ryalleta: what is the output of:
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !server | Sonderblade
[12:39] <cfhowlett> sony ^^^ sorry sonderblade
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> ryalleta: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[12:40] <Aldi_> k running the backup now with sftp to my other nas, going fast on gigabit
[12:46] <liuxg>  does anyone know how to repair my grub problem. Now I boot my PC, but it boots to the grub command. However, I can press F12 on dell to boot into my Ubuntu OS.
[12:47] <liuxg> the problem happens when I tried to install Ubuntu OS to my USB stick and I wrongly chose the harddisk as the boot loader.
[12:47] <Chuck_Norris> liuxg: boot from a live cd
[12:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: if you can still boot into your ubuntu OS
[12:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: boot into it
[12:47] <liuxg> Chuck_Norris, I can now boot into my existing Ubuntu OS.
[12:47] <TheBigDeal> I have TP-LINK wireless usb adapter, and ubuntu is being able to recognizes it, what to do?
[12:47] <sacarlson> Aldi_: I just had some other thoughts , even if he hacked your user account does that user had sudo privs?  and if so you can also see in the logs if sudo operation was detected in any window of time of the known breach
[12:47] <EriC^^> and run sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdx
[12:47] <EriC^^> then run sudo update-grub
[12:48] <Aldi_> yeah that user had sudo priv
[12:48] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, I can boot into it. what is exactly "sdx"? should it be "sda" or something?
[12:48] <EriC^^> Aldi_: why do you think somebody hacked into your installation?
[12:49] <EriC^^> liuxg: it should be the disk where the ubuntu installation is located, use sudo parted -l to check
[12:49] <sacarlson> Aldi_: ok he had privs but was he detected using the sudo privs.  those will be detectable in /var/log/syslog  I beleave
[12:49] <liuxg> EriC^^, liuxg@liuxg:~$ sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdx
[12:49] <liuxg> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[12:49] <liuxg> Installation finished. No error reported.
[12:49] <liuxg> . this is what I got.
[12:50] <EriC^^> liuxg: type sudo parted -l
[12:50] <EriC^^> liuxg: sdx is just an example
[12:50] <Generator_> Wulf thankx writing upstart worked. :)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: run: lsusb , use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[12:50] <EriC^^> liuxg: use paste.ubuntu.com to paste the output
[12:50] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, cool
[12:51] <EriC^^> sacarlson: /var/log/auth.log
[12:51] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883504/ this is the result
[12:51] <EriC^^> sacarlson: also, root's .bash_history
[12:51] <sacarlson> EriC^^:  ya /var/log/auth.log  you should look at that Aldi_
[12:52] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, do you see the ubuntu installation?
[12:52] <EriC^^> is it the 150gb partition on the first disk?
[12:52] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, they are all have the same ID
[12:52] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, 150g is the one.
[12:53] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, actually only one have :0002
[12:53] <TheBigDeal> usb 2.0
[12:53] <TheBigDeal> has*
[12:53] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[12:53] <EriC^^> liuxg: ( add sudo )
[12:53] <EriC^^> liuxg: then type sudo update-grub
[12:54] <liuxg> EriC^^, thanks. I am now trying it.
[12:54] <sacarlson> EriC^^:  Aldi_  ya that's also a good idea look at root's .bash_history.  I've been hacked before an noted they only looked and did no real damage to my system
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: is the device attached?
[12:54] <Aldi_> What methode did they hacked you?
[12:54] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, of course it does
[12:55] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, oh got it
[12:55] <liuxg> EriC^^, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883536/
[12:55] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, i attached it to another port
[12:55] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, a green light :)
[12:55] <liuxg> EriC^^, could you please help me to verify it. then I can restart my machine.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: is it working?
[12:55] <sacarlson> Aldi_: on my system I had some old version of oscommerce software that had a bad bug allowing access to www-data user
[12:56] <EriC^^> liuxg: seems ok, it picked up the kernels and the windows installation
[12:56] <Aldi_> oh, that is why I use apparmor
[12:56] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, I lost the network in xfce4 panel :(
[12:56] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. many thanks! I will reboot my machine right now.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> TheBigDeal: try rebooting with the device in the new port
[12:56] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, no problem
[12:56] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, okay
[12:57] <liuxg> EriC^^, thank you!
[12:57] <sacarlson> Aldi_: they couldn't change anything on my /var/www since they were all write protected from www-data so no real harm done
[12:57] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, I'll wait for the updates to update and then wirgana reboot
[12:57] <Aldi_> Nice, how did you notice it? Do you run some kind of monitoring software?
[12:58] <andreas> hi
[12:58] <sacarlson> Aldi_: but the appache logs showed all they looked at even in /etc but still couldn't change anything
[12:58] <andreas> ok
[12:59] <sacarlson> Aldi_: ha ha it was easy to notice since they couldn't change but they could create files in /var/www that included adding index.html
[13:01] <Aldi_> oh :D, any intresting monitoring tools to use on server?
[13:01] <liuxg> EriC^^, thank you for your help to resolve my problem. It works now. By the way, may I know how I can install Ubuntu to 2 USB stick?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> liuxg, lubuntu or xubuntu can live on 2 GB.  ubuntu?  don't think so.
[13:01] <sacarlson> Aldi_: no just the standard apache logs show all activity on every file touched and by what ip address
[13:01] <liuxg> EriC^^, I have one bootable USB stick working. I want to install Ubuntu to another USB stick.
[13:02] <liuxg> cfhowlett, I have a USB stick with space 32G.
[13:02] <EriC^^> liuxg: install it as usual, but choose the partition on the usb stick, and choose the bootloader to be installed on the usb disk
[13:02] <Aldi_> Im using UFW firewall now, ssh key auth, anything else I can do to be more secure?
[13:02] <sacarlson> Aldi_: they have fancy tools to analize the logs that might help
[13:03] <sacarlson> Aldi_: just biger better passwords??
[13:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, I just now did it that way. However, it seems that it is not successful for the last installation. I only mounted "/". I think it chose the swap on my harddisk.
[13:03] <EriC^^> liuxg: ( choose the bootloader on the bottom, in the menu where you select the partition for the installation )
[13:03] <Chuck_Norris> Aldi_: kippo honeypot -.-
[13:04] <Chuck_Norris> ssh 2 way auth :P
[13:04] <liuxg> EriC^^, I just got one partition with the whole 32G. For example, it shows "sdc1". is this the one?
[13:04] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes if that's where you want to put it
[13:04] <liuxg> EriC^^, I will try it again to see how it works. it seems that my disk is not bootable. thanks
[13:05] <EriC^^> liuxg: did you choose the bootloader's installation?
[13:05] <EriC^^> it's at the bottom
[13:05] <EriC^^> you sohuld choose /dev/sdc
[13:05] <EriC^^> *should
[13:06] <liuxg> EriC^^, yeah, I remember I did that. By the way, may I just create one partition for "/" without the swap?
[13:06] <EriC^^> liuxg: ah wait
[13:06] <EriC^^> liuxg: your disk has a gpt partition table, so you'll need a bios-boot partition for it to work
[13:06] <EriC^^> liuxg: i think the installation should mention needing that
[13:06] <sacarlson> Aldi_: oh there is another cool tool called tripwire that when I was paranoid I would setup
[13:07] <EriC^^> if not, make a 2MB bios-boot partition at the beginning of the disk
[13:07] <jesk> when having different sources like PPAs, how can I choose from which one I want to install a package?
[13:07] <EriC^^> liuxg: or make a msdos partition table instead
[13:07] <liuxg> EriC^^, really? how can I do that? do you have any instructions to follow?
[13:08] <jesk> like doing "apt-cache show packagename" shows me different versions most probably because I added a PPA archive
[13:08] <jesk> what now?
[13:09] <liuxg> EriC^^, so I need to have 2 partitions to get it work?
[13:09] <sacarlson> jesk: if you already installed the ppa package you added it for you can now remove it and update to not see other parts you don't need
[13:09] <EriC^^> liuxg: if using gpt yes
[13:09] <EriC^^> liuxg: hold on
[13:09] <liuxg> EriC^^, what do you mean by gpt?
[13:09] <TheBigDeal> ActionParsnip, still can't see the network icon in the panel
[13:10] <jesk> sacarlson: but which one is choosed if i have now different repositories?
[13:10] <EriC^^> liuxg: the partition table type
[13:10] <jesk> sudo apt-cache show juju-core |grep Filen
[13:10] <jesk> Filename: pool/main/j/juju-core/juju-core_1.20.11-0ubuntu1~14.04.1~juju1_amd64.deb
[13:10] <jesk> Filename: pool/universe/j/juju-core/juju-core_1.18.4+dfsg-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_amd64.deb
[13:10] <jesk> Filename: pool/universe/j/juju-core/juju-core_1.18.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[13:10] <jesk> 3 ones it seems
[13:10] <jesk> when doing apt-get install which one is installed?
[13:10] <sacarlson> jesk remove the repository if you don't need it
[13:11] <jesk> sacarlson: how do I know which of those packages is from what rep?
[13:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: you can convert it to mbr
[13:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo gdisk /dev/sdc
[13:11] <Aldi_> ip that hacked me was from poneytelecom
[13:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: press "r", then press "g"
[13:11] <Aldi_> seems like it is a dedicated hosting company "online.net"
[13:11] <sacarlson> jesk remove ALL or at least disable the ppa if you don't need them
[13:11] <liuxg> EriC^^, in desktop, I do this one first, then install from another USB, right?
[13:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: you won't need a bios-boot partition using that
[13:12] <EriC^^> partition table type
[13:12] <jesk> sacarlson: i would like to know which rep provides which version
[13:12] <sacarlson> jesk you can renable them if you want to again upgrade the ppa you added
[13:12] <Chuck_Norris> TheBigDeal: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome -y
[13:12] <TheBigDeal> Chuck_Norris, well, let me see
[13:12] <jesk> i added ppa:juju/stable
[13:12] <sacarlson> jesk in synaptic look in repository under ppa
[13:12] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes, run gdisk on the usb disk, then install to it
[13:13] <jesk> sacarlson: in what? :)
[13:13] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883792/ this is the output
[13:13] <sacarlson> jesk: are you on a server?  synaptic the package app
[13:13] <jesk> yes
[13:13] <EriC^^> liuxg: hold on
[13:14] <EriC^^> liuxg: when you type sudo parted -l
[13:14] <EriC^^> liuxg: /dev/sdc is the 32GB disk?
[13:14] <EriC^^> liuxg: it mentioned it has a gpt partition table before, but gdisk says it doesnt
[13:14] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, it is
[13:14] <EriC^^> liuxg: try to run fixparts /dev/sdc
[13:15] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883813/ this is the result for sudo parted -l
[13:16] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, it's now /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb
[13:16] <EriC^^> i mean /dev/sdb not /dev/sdc
[13:16] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883821/
[13:17] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, it's /dev/sdb now
[13:17] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo gdisk /dev/sdb
[13:17] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883835/
[13:17] <sacarlson> jesk: well I don't even know what juju does so I normaly go for the most recenct or bigger number release.  if for some reason you have other apps with dependancy on lower version then install those
[13:18] <EriC^^> liuxg: we might not need fixparts
[13:18] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo gdisk /dev/sdb
[13:18] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883847/ this is the output
[13:18] <EriC^^> liuxg: fixparts is for removing stray gpt data
[13:19] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, so it's using gpt
[13:19] <EriC^^> liuxg: press "r", then "g"
[13:19] <tyw> hi
[13:20] <liuxg> EriC^^, in the "Command (? for help): what should I input there?
[13:21] <EriC^^> liuxg: type "r" then press enter
[13:22] <liuxg> EriC^^, is this correct?
[13:22] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883899/
[13:23] <jarno> are there any companies that still sell pata ide drivers? :p
[13:23] <jarno> drives*
[13:23] <bewees> ActionParsnip, Oh, so if I do as always `configure;make` but then replace `make install` with `checkinstall` with the advantage that it registers as a package? It's that easy and I won't actually need to write a package file with build parameters & required buidl dep?
[13:23] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes
[13:23] <EriC^^> liuxg: type "g"
[13:23] <Marc-Julian> Did i miss something?
[13:26] <Guest54355> esiste un modo per ripristinare il menu principale di ubuntustudio
[13:26] <liuxg> EriC^^, then? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883967/
[13:26] <Chuck_Norris> !it | Guest54355
[13:26] <EriC^^> liuxg: type "w"
[13:27] <liuxg> EriC^^, this is the whole thing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8883984/
[13:28] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[13:28] <EriC^^> reboot, into the liveusb, and check if the installer sees the disk
[13:28] <EriC^^> it might not see the disk because of stray gpt data
[13:29] <bewees> I want to install a newer version of qemu. Is it okay to use utopic repository for that, though I got trusty? Trust-backports unfortunatetly doen't provide a newer version of qemu
[13:29] <EriC^^> if so, try fixparts /dev/sdx
[13:29] <EriC^^> on the disk to remove them
[13:29]  * Chuck_Norris thinks EriC^^ has some disk managements skills tho
[13:30] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. Many thanks. So, I can use a liveusd to install it now. I should not partition the USB any more, right?
[13:30] <EriC^^> liuxg: you should be able to partition the usb from the installer
[13:31] <Marc-Julian> i'm painting a picture now
[13:31] <EriC^^> ( if needed )
[13:31] <Novice201y> Hello. How can I install i3 from source?
[13:31] <liuxg> EriC^^,  OK. I got it. just now, we create some gpt right?
[13:31] <compdoc> bewees, a new qemu version might fix some issue youre having, but it doesnt always mean it will give you more functionality. the other apps that go with it all have to be updated and improved
[13:32] <EriC^^> liuxg: we converted the gpt to msdos partition table
[13:32] <sacarlson> Novice201y:  i3 ?  I will have to look that up.  wonder how many hit I'll find on google?
[13:32] <EriC^^> liuxg: some stray gpt might still be there, so you might need to use fixparts to remove them
[13:33] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. thanks! I am going to reboot and see how it works. Do I need to do it now?
[13:33] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[13:33] <EriC^^> liuxg: yeah
[13:33] <liuxg> EriC^^,  this is the command, right? sudo fixparts /dev/sdb
[13:33] <EriC^^> liuxg: check with sudo parted -l first
[13:34] <EriC^^> liuxg: it might change if you have the installer usb plugged in
[13:34] <m1dnight> Guys, when I do "sudo ufw enable" it gives me "Firewall is active and enabled on system startup", does that mean I have to reboot for it to be enabled, or that it will start evry boot?
[13:34] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8884064/
[13:35] <cfhowlett> m1dnight, every boot
[13:35] <tam> hi
[13:35] <EriC^^> liuxg: it might change after plugging in the live usb
[13:35] <sacarlson> Novice201y: nope 100+ hits on google so I'm still clue less as to what your looking for
[13:35] <Aldi_> sacarlson: hmm chkrootkit found 1 rootkit on my server
[13:36] <_war10ck_> Hi tam
[13:36] <EriC^^> liuxg: plug the live usb in and then try to install, if it doesn't see the usb, exit the installer and type sudo parted -l
[13:36] <EriC^^> liuxg: if you want come back on here
[13:36] <liuxg> EriC^^, do I need to it in the liveUSb, or in this desktop env?
[13:36] <EriC^^> liuxg: it doesn't matter
[13:36] <tam> Greetings
[13:36] <Aldi_> it says it is connected to 62.210.203.240
[13:36] <Aldi_> weird
[13:36] <sacarlson> Aldi_: so he never ran sudo, nothing in logs for that?
[13:36] <tam> Was actually trying to just send a Text Message to my mom over Internet
[13:37] <Aldi_> log files are kinda cleaned
[13:37] <tam> but ended up here
[13:37] <tam> Learning
[13:37] <Aldi_> also discovered a dos.perl script in the ~
[13:38] <sacarlson> Aldi_: mine uploaded a real cool shell program that was access from appache like a web page
[13:39] <Aldi_> Should I report it to the police?
[13:39] <Aldi_> or the hosting provider
[13:39] <sacarlson> Aldi_: did you look at the date last modified?  you can search out that kind of stuf with find command
[13:40] <Aldi_> the log files are not there anymore
[13:40] <sacarlson> Aldi_: ha ha police?  no I don't think so
[13:40] <Aldi_> also the /var/log/wtmp is gone
[13:41] <Chuck_Norris> for sure are the guys from China :P
[13:41] <Lucax> is there any way to open a LUKS partition when you can not remember the password?
[13:41] <bewees> compdoc, Yea, I'll give it a try though, alternatively I could upgrade the whole system to utopic
[13:41] <sacarlson> Aldi_: did you delete the logs or you saying they manage to do that?
[13:41] <Aldi_> they managed to do it
[13:41] <Chuck_Norris> they got like bot all over the world wide web trying to bruteforce ssh servers -.-
[13:42] <sacarlson> Aldi_: what about /var/log/auth.log ??
[13:42] <EriC^^> sacarlson: check /root/.bash_history
[13:42] <grantgm> sacarlson, fyi: i filed a bug against docker, here: https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/8995#issuecomment-62251701
[13:43] <EriC^^> * Aldi_
[13:43] <grantgm> fee free to contribute your experience
[13:43] <sacarlson> grantgm: cool I'll take a look at it
[13:45] <San1ty> Hey guys, After installing Ubuntu 14.04 I can no longer boot to my windows install on a separate hard drive. I had installed windows in UEFI mode but it disappeard from my boot options in Bios after the ubuntu install. Any idea what went wrong?
[13:45] <Marc-Julian> i got updates on my ubuntu 14.10 computer
[13:45] <San1ty> Also I do not see grub and boot directly to Ubuntu
[13:45] <sacarlson> grantgm: so still no work around for that?
[13:46] <liuxg> EriC^^, I am installing it on another machine, and it recognizes the drive C. By the way, do we normally need the swap drive for the USB installation?
[13:46] <grantgm> sacarlson, it seems crazy to me that this bug can exist...like, how has no one else been trying to run docker on ubuntu?
[13:46] <EriC^^> liuxg: only if you want hibernation
[13:46] <grantgm> sacarlson, i was sure i must just be doing something incredibly stupid
[13:47] <sacarlson> grantgm: well I was able to run it but I used the standard released packages nothing new in my run
[13:47] <grantgm> sacarlson, i kind of put it aside and haven't really looked at it for the past couple days
[13:47] <liuxg> EriC^^, so, I normally choose one partition for the "/", right? I do not need hibernation since it needs very big space. I got 8G memory.
[13:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes
[13:48] <grantgm> sacarlson, according to someone in that bug thread, the packaged version actually fails too, which surprised me (i hadn't tried it, but want the new version anyways)
[13:48] <EriC^^> and choose the bootloader at the usb disk
[13:48] <liuxg> EriC^^, I have chosen sdc1 as the bootloader. Let's see how it is going to work.
[13:48] <sacarlson> grantgm: I think when I had the problem I looked in logs and found something that I search that came up with a simple work around.
[13:48] <EriC^^> should be /dev/sdc
[13:49] <sacarlson> grantgm: the permisions should triger what caused it in logs
[13:49] <grantgm> sacarlson, you're right that adding myself to the docker group is step one, because the socket isn't writable otherwise
[13:49] <grantgm> but the daemon still has a permission error
[13:49] <EriC^^> liuxg: if it doesn't work
[13:49] <liuxg> EriC^^, oh, then I got it wrong. this is a confusing part since I chose sdc last time, and it did not work. both were listed there.
[13:49] <EriC^^> liuxg: you can chroot into it and grub-install
[13:50] <sacarlson> grantgm: ya the user add was the only fix I recall doing
[13:50] <liuxg> EriC^^, maybe  I stop it now, and restart the installation
[13:51] <liuxg> EriC^^, the list is a little bit confusing since it has all of the listed there.
[13:51] <sacarlson> grantgm: for your bug report you should have included your /var/log files
[13:51] <EriC^^> liuxg: it might work
[13:51] <EriC^^> liuxg: if it doesn't it's easy to fix it
[13:52] <liuxg> EriC^^, anyway, I stopped it, and re-install.
[13:52] <EriC^^> ok
[13:52] <Marc-Julian> my linux still works good.
[13:53] <San1ty> Anyone?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> San1ty
[13:54] <TheBigDeal> How to upgrade from xubuntu 14.04 to xubuntu Utopic Unicorn?
[13:54] <Marc-Julian> 83.5 MB Updates
[13:54] <cfhowlett> TheBigDeal, sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:55] <TheBigDeal> cfhowlett, ok
[13:55] <TheBigDeal> cfhowlett, no new release found
[13:55] <cfhowlett> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[13:55] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: sudo apt-get update
[13:55] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: no
[13:55] <EriC^^> not necessary i think
[13:56] <TheBigDeal> sometimes it works with the option -d
[13:56] <grantgm> sacarlson, yea, adding them now
[13:56] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: try sudo apt-get update
[13:56] <cfhowlett> TheBigDeal, indeed.  also, EriC^^ are your sources set for LTS only?  then you won't see utopic until you change that
[13:57] <grantgm> sacarlson,  it basically just contains the same error message as on the console, though :(
[13:57] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, i did update, the same result
[13:57] <sacarlson> grantgm: also the exact kernel you have installed as I think that's the problem the kernel you have doesn't have lxc support
[13:57] <TheBigDeal> and now i'm downloading the -d development version
[13:59] <grantgm> sacarlson, oh, yea, weird, i thought i included uname -a in the original report...
[13:59] <grantgm> adding it now
[14:00] <lolcat> Hello
[14:00] <lolcat> Can I use 64bit iso on 32 bit cpu?
[14:00] <Airbander> how join outoftopic channel
[14:01] <Airbander> type this command to see if you can use 64bit " lscpu"
[14:01] <Airbander> are you in linux ?
[14:01] <lolcat> Airbander: the computer is not on, it has no os and no harddrive
[14:02] <tsester> Airbander, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:02] <lolcat> it has an intel atom cpu
[14:02] <Airbander> thanks TSESTER
[14:02] <Airbander> to be honest i dont know
[14:04] <tsester> lolcat i tried to boot a 64bit iso on 32 bit and i think i got kernel - panic
[14:04] <sacarlson> grantgm: be sure your kernel has veth support compiled in or has needed modules,  also might try installing lxc and cgroup-lite packages
[14:04] <lolcat> I guess 32 bit then
[14:06] <sacarlson> grantgm: the kernel I now run is 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:07] <Airbander> how make a program run in new window  when i type a new command and thanks
[14:07] <johnson5> Recently, I have discovered a severe privilege escalation vulnerability that affects the kernel range 2.6.32>3.17.2 - Debian, Ubuntu and specially Centos are remarkably affected. I'd like to work with the developers of Ubuntu on fixing this bug. It's not a simple bug, it's just as powerful as Heartbleed or anything else.
[14:07] <grantgm> sacarlson, oh, so you had to downgrade your kernel?
[14:07] <sacarlson> grantgm: no that was installed from my last update on 14.04
[14:08] <Airbander> johnson how find bugs in linux ? and thanks
[14:08] <grantgm> sacarlson, weird, i've got  3.13.0-32-generic, which was what shipped in my 14.04.1 install
[14:09] <sacarlson> grantgm: well that's what I got that was at one point at least working
[14:09] <johnson5> anybody?
[14:09] <Airbander> sorry johnson5 i dont understand nothing in programing
[14:09] <grantgm> sacarlson, haha, ok, well, good to know it's at least *possible* to get it working
[14:09] <grantgm> :)
[14:09] <Airbander> i just start using linux a few weeks
[14:10] <Airbander> guys plz how start a new program i new window ?
[14:10] <Airbander> any one
[14:11] <grantgm> johnson5, your best bet it probably to check out http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[14:11] <Eman> aò
[14:11] <grantgm> (basically, email security@ubuntu.com)
[14:11] <johnson5> grantgm; I want to sell this bug and earn millions.
[14:12] <San1ty> I just did a clean install of ubuntu 14.04 and enabled LVM and I dont really understand the output of parted -l:
[14:12] <johnson5> Ubuntu will only thank me for it.
[14:12] <johnson5> while the blackhat community will make me a millionaire, grantgm.
[14:12] <johnson5> I don't seek fame, I want my wallet to be heavy.
[14:12] <San1ty> http://pastebin.com/GpYnx5VT
[14:12] <San1ty> What is that ext2 partition without a name?
[14:13] <San1ty> and what is that error to the bottom?
[14:14] <Jeroen1> Hi people, I've got a question; Is there a way to disable PHP log errors in the server log?
[14:16] <sacarlson> Jeroen1: there are ways to disable or quite some errors in php logs
[14:16] <sacarlson> Jeroen1: depends on the error
[14:17] <Jeroen1> PHP Warning:  Missing argument 1 for AccountInformation::__construct(), called in /srv/domain.nl/php/user.php on line 1942 and defined in /srv/
[14:17] <Jeroen1> that kind of warnings
[14:19] <sacarlson> Jeroen1: http://php.net/manual/en/function.error-reporting.php
[14:19] <Jeroen1> Yeah, the thing is. I got this one (error_reporting(0);) in my file
[14:19] <Jeroen1> but still getting errors in the log
[14:21] <Jeroen1> oh wait
[14:21] <Jeroen1> probably got it
[14:21] <Jeroen1> thanks
[14:21] <Jeroen1> sacarlson; Do you also know how to get in the configration file of nginx?
[14:22] <sacarlson> Jeroen1: Just add a default value to your argument
[14:22] <Jeroen1> yeah but I got a million of it :")
[14:22] <Jeroen1> so I first have to get the time to fix it without having my error log running full
[14:22] <sacarlson> Jeroen1: just write a sed script that changes all of them
[14:23] <Jeroen1> Ok I'll google that thank you very much. :)
[14:23] <Jeroen1> Do you also know the nginx confirgration file how to get into that?
[14:26] <sacarlson> Jeroen1: no I'm a apache guy
[14:27] <Jeroen1> Np sacarlson; Thank you very much for that other thing. :D
[14:28] <sacarlson> Jeroen1: otherwise just setup a cron that deletes the logs or prunes them every day or so
[14:29] <classy> halo...
[14:30] <classy> can i ask question?
[14:30] <liuxg> EriC^^, i have finished my installation. Now my computer boots to the grub again.
[14:30] <EriC^^> liuxg: it's working?
[14:30] <warlock> anyone there
[14:30] <warlock> ?
[14:30] <warlock> ?
[14:31] <EriC^^> liuxg: you mean the grub of the ubuntu installation? you need to select the usb disk in the bios
[14:31] <classy> i'm trouble with eclipse on ubuntu 14.04.1?
[14:31] <warlock> tell me anuy wifi tools
[14:31] <warlock> ?
[14:31] <warlock> in ubuntu
[14:31] <liuxg> EriC^^, I booted once, and I saw the menu listed there. I shutdown, then my pc boots to grub command
[14:31] <EriC^^> liuxg: tyr to select the usb disk in the bios
[14:32] <EriC^^> *try , put it's order before the hdd
[14:33] <liuxg> EriC^^, the problem is that it does not see the USB stick there.
[14:33] <EriC^^> liuxg: ah
[14:33] <classy> i'm trouble with eclipse on ubuntu 14.04.1? can't start avd. message error " Starting emulator for AVD 'android4.0'
[14:33] <classy> ERROR: 32-bit Linux Android emulator binaries are DEPRECATED, to use them
[14:33] <classy>        you will have to do at least one of the following:
[14:33] <classy>        - Use the '-force-32bit' option when invoking 'emulator'.
[14:33] <classy>        - Set ANDROID_EMULATOR_FORCE_32BIT to 'true' in your environment.
[14:33] <classy>        Either one will allow you to use the 32-bit binaries, but please be
[14:33] <unopaste> classy you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:33] <EriC^^> liuxg: i think it's cause your bios is set to uefi
[14:33] <liuxg> EriC^^, I can only see "Ubuntu". "Windows boot manager" and UEFI: Samsung SSD PM851 256GB
[14:34] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, another liveusb can be booted without any problem.
[14:34] <liuxg> EriC^^, it could be listed there as a bootable device.
[14:34] <EriC^^> liuxg: you need to install ubuntu with efi
[14:34] <EriC^^> liuxg: yeah, or when you want to use the usb you have to switch the bios to legacy
[14:34] <liuxg> EriC^^, where do I do the selection for it?
[14:35] <EriC^^> liuxg: will you be using the usb on other computers?
[14:35] <sacarlson> classy: well did you try any of the options it so clearly suggested?
[14:35] <EriC^^> as legacy will work for more computers
[14:35] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes,  I will basically duplicate this USB image and let other use it.
[14:35] <EriC^^> liuxg: in the bios, select legacy instead of uefi
[14:36] <EriC^^> liuxg: problem is that i think the usb was installed with uefi enabled
[14:36] <EriC^^> give it a shot though
[14:36] <EriC^^> liuxg: did it mention anything about efi partitions?
[14:36] <Akira__> Hey y'all. I have been looking through /r/Unixporn for a while. Any tips how to get started with that sort of stuff? Only recently made the full switch to Ubuntu. I would like to accomplish things like having a very minimalist launchbar on the bottom and tweak the top bar.
[14:37] <liuxg> EriC^^, no, I cannot see the bootable device. I cannot set it to the legacy in the BIOS.
[14:37] <EriC^^> liuxg: try to select legacy in the bios, see if the usb boots, if it doesn't reinstall the usb while it's set to legacy in the bios
[14:37] <EriC^^> liuxg: you should be able to switch to legacy
[14:37] <EriC^^> liuxg: is there anything about uefi in the bios?
[14:38] <liuxg> EriC^^, in BIOS, the radio button cannot be enabled.
[14:38] <Novice201y> Hello. Is there app to change screen brightness?
[14:38] <sacarlson> Akira__: you might prefer the mate desktop more like the old gnome
[14:38] <EriC^^> liuxg: maybe you have to select something before the radio button is enabled
[14:38] <EriC^^> Novice201y: settings > brightness
[14:39] <liuxg> EriC^^, in parallel to UEFI, there is a legacy radio button, but it cannot be enabled. I think probably there is no legacy bootable disks for it, so it cannot be selected.
[14:39] <Novice201y> EriC^^, I'm on LXDE here.
[14:40] <EriC^^> Novice201y: there should be something in settings i think
[14:40] <Akira__> Maybe @sarcalson. But I like having a fullscreen search field when pressing the "super" key. I would prefer something like a app screen tho.
[14:41] <Akira__> If I really want to get into tweaking things.. which programming language should I learn? Is it done in Python or closer to the metal?
[14:42] <EriC^^> liuxg: try disabling secureboot maybe?
[14:42] <EriC^^> liuxg: i think you have to select something before it can be enabled
[14:42] <kokut> I cannot login to my ubuntu account, can anyone help me? Already tried installing gdm without luck, i type my password, screen flashes and goes back to the login screen, i can log through the virtual console though
[14:43] <www2> Hi any one can help me how i can setup unity to use my right as the mainscreen?
[14:43] <EriC^^> kokut: type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[14:43] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, I disabled it, and in the "Advanced boot options", I tried to "enable lagacy optiion ROMS"
[14:43] <EriC^^> www2: settings > display, drag the screen's as you see fit
[14:43] <kokut> EriC^^: im on the live dvd and my home folder is encrypted
[14:43] <littlebit_> hi people I have been trying to set my audio out to my hdmi and bluetooth headset. This is my configuration of /etc/pulse/default.pa : https://dpaste.de/n9Pw If you look for  the term combined, that is my changes that I made. It worked yesterday. But now it doesn't
[14:43] <littlebit_> can someone hel
[14:44] <www2> EriC^^: i have don all ready
[14:44] <liuxg> EriC^^, still, in the "boot sequence", I cannot turn on the "Legacy" radio button
[14:44] <EriC^^> kokut: if you boot into the installation, can you login from a tty?
[14:45] <www2> i need the 0,0 point on the right screen in state of the left screen
[14:45] <kokut> EriC^^: yes
[14:45] <kokut> EriC^^: maybe something got messed up when i tried to remove thee ncryption of my home folder
[14:47] <kokut> EriC^^: im willing to install ubuntu again without the encryption - because i think something related to it might be tearing up my hard drive - but i would need to recover some files before that so..
[14:47] <liuxg> EriC^^, you are right. I have to apply first. now in the legacy mode. I saw "MiniCard SSD", "USB Storage Device" and "Onboard NIC". However, it still does not work.
[14:48] <hulio> how can i write to HFS+(Mac) drive?
[14:48] <hulio> currently it can only read
[14:48] <hulio> please help me
[14:49] <hulio> i can't copy anything to mac drive
[14:49] <hulio> it is visible only
[14:52] <kokut> I cannot login to my ubuntu account, tried installing gdm without luck, i type my password, screen flashes and goes back to the login screen, i can log through the console though
[14:52] <kokut> can anyone help me please
[14:54] <kokut> EriC^^:  you ok man_
[14:54] <kokut> EriC^^: ?
[14:54] <EriC^^> kokut: sorry, i got dc
[14:54] <hulio> i can't copy anything to mac drive
[14:54] <kokut> EriC^^: Its okay dont worry :D
[14:55] <DX099> kokut, first thing coming to my mind > did you check locale in gdm?
[14:55] <kokut> DX099: i dont know how to do that
[14:55] <liuxg> EriC^^, I just now did a silly thing. In BIOS, I loaded default values, and saved it. Now, I cannot find all of the ubuntu boot any more in the boot sequence. How can I fix this problem?
[14:56] <DX099> kokut: just check that the keyboard layout is the proper one
[14:56] <DX099> kokut: there should be an icon somewhere indicating which layout is being used
[14:57] <kokut> DX099: nope, i dont remember doing so, but anyways the result was a login screen different than the usual one and i tyed my password and it stayed there, couldnt get to my desktop etc
[14:57] <DX099> kokut: so it doesn't say "wrong password" or anything like that?
[14:57] <kokut> DX099: nope
[14:57] <kokut> DX099: password is fine because i can login through the console
[14:58] <pampuchy> hi, on the latest ubuntu inspite of doing sudo service nginx start i cant access my server, why?
[14:58] <liuxg> EriC^^, could you please help me? I lost all of the grub info on my laptop now.
[14:58] <EriC^^> kokut: login through the console and check ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[14:58] <EriC^^> kokut: check if you are the owner
[14:59] <DX099> kokut: hm, this is a different problem then, I'm clueless. Sometimes, TTY console has the right keyboard layout whereas Desktop Manager login screen doesn't. But right now, it's not the problem...
[14:59] <EriC^^> liuxg: when you boot what happens?
[14:59] <kokut> EriC^^: can i login through the console from the live cd?so i dont have to boot again... it takes like 10 min
[14:59] <liuxg> EriC^^, I can only enter Windows
[14:59] <EriC^^> kokut: try to boot
[14:59] <liuxg> EriC^^, the grub boot menu is not there. I think I erased it by loading the default in BIOS
[15:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[15:00] <liuxg> EriC^^, how can I recover the problem?
[15:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: try to reinstall grub i guess
[15:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: i think you erased the ubuntu entry from efibootmgr
[15:00] <kokut> EriC^^: but it will take a lot of time for me to come back with the results of that command
[15:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: if grub-install doesn't add it
[15:00] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, that should be the case. I just rebooted using my liveusb.
[15:01] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, sudo parted -l
[15:01] <liuxg> EriC^^, I cannot find "Ubuntu" any more in the boot sequence of BIOS
[15:02] <EriC^^> kokut: use irssi in the terminal
[15:02] <kokut> okay gotta try that
[15:03] <EriC^^> liuxg: you have to chroot
[15:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8885182
[15:04] <kokut> EriC^^: how do i get to this place from irssi...?
[15:04] <liuxg> EriC^^, on liveusb, I did not install the IRC. I am using another pc to chat with you.
[15:04] <EriC^^> kokut: /server irc.freenode.net 8001
[15:05] <EriC^^> kokut: then /join #ubuntu
[15:05] <liuxg> EriC^^, how can I do the chroot? please
[15:05] <EriC^^> kokut: use alt+1-2-3.. to switch between windows
[15:06] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[15:06] <EriC^^> liuxg: type efibootmgr -v as well
[15:06] <kokut> lol there i am,
[15:06] <kokut> ubuntu sup m8
[15:07] <Guest76662> kokut: k brb, gonna try this from the terminal after booting.
[15:09] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8885286
[15:10] <TheBigDeal> hi
[15:10] <TheBigDeal> I want to resize the root partition, this is my partitioning table http://imgur.com/ZwLdfYK
[15:10] <liuxg> EriC^^, is there any problem with it. I have done the commands.
[15:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[15:12] <root____1> EriC^^: im kokut, i tried to log in with gdm without luck, all i get is a black screen now..
[15:12] <liuxg> EriC^^, done
[15:12] <EriC^^> liuxg: efibootmgr -c
[15:12] <root____1> EriC^^: also had to run irssi as root because it couldnt create the file
[15:12] <EriC^^> root____1: i think your permissions are all messed up
[15:12] <sukima> I have the following drives: 1TB, 1TB, 250GB, 160GB what would be the best partition/raid/setup for a desktop/media server?
[15:13] <liuxg> EriC^^, do I need to do "sudo" for the above command?
[15:13] <root____1> EriC^^: yea probably because i tried to remove the encryption of my home folder a couple of days ago and left the job half done, now i would be happy just recovering my files
[15:13] <EriC^^> liuxg: hold on
[15:13] <root____1> EriC^^: and installing ubuntu again
[15:13] <EriC^^> liuxg: not sure if it matters
[15:13] <EriC^^> liuxg: but try sudo chroot /mnt
[15:14] <EriC^^> then type efibootmgr -c
[15:14] <noark> !info grub
[15:14] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, is there a way to resize it ?
[15:14] <liuxg> EriC^^, done with the above command
[15:14] <noark> !info brug
[15:14] <root____1> ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[15:14] <root____1> gotta try that
[15:14] <noark> !info audacity
[15:14] <cfhowlett> !info burg
[15:15] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: try gparted
[15:15] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: ( from the live usb session )
[15:15] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: you can't resize if it's mounted
[15:15] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, hm
[15:15] <liuxg> EriC^^, it shows root@ubuntu-ky  paste.ubuntu.com/8885381
[15:16] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, try efibootmgr -c again
[15:16] <Guest48465> q
[15:17] <noark> !info tzdata
[15:17] <root____1> EriC^^: cannot access /home/myUsr/Xauthority: no such file or directory
[15:17] <EriC^^> liuxg: i think we have to add the options ourselves
[15:17] <EriC^^> root____1: it's ~/.Xauthority
[15:18] <root____1> EriC^^: yep /home/myUsr/.Xauthority: no such file or directory
[15:18] <liuxg> EriC^^,  paste.ubuntu.com/8885401
[15:18] <noark> !info tzdata-java
[15:19] <EriC^^> root____1: type sudo find /home/myUsr ! -user myUsr
[15:19] <compdoc> root____1, type:  cd ~    to get to your home directory, then type:   touch .Xauthority
[15:19] <noark> cd /home/user
[15:19] <liuxg> EriC^^, what options should we add to the command?
[15:19] <noark> ls -al | grep .X
[15:20] <root____1> EriC^^: only folders on my /myUsr/ are irssi, .ecryptfs, .Private
[15:20] <EriC^^> root____1: that should return any files not owned by yourself
[15:21] <root____1> compdoc: cannot touch Xauthority permission denied
[15:21] <compdoc> root____1, its:      touch .Xauthority
[15:21] <compdoc> with a period
[15:21] <liuxg> EriC^^, the last command output is paste.ubuntu.com/8885401. is that all?
[15:21] <EriC^^> liuxg: hold on
[15:21] <EriC^^> liuxg: exit the chroot
[15:22] <EriC^^> ( type exit )
[15:22] <liuxg> EriC^^, I typed "exit", and it comes out.
[15:22] <compdoc> root____1, if you dont have permissions to write files in your home directory, things are really screwed up
[15:22] <root____1> compdoc: if i type touch .Xauthority it says permission denied, if i type sudo touch .Xauthority it show nothing
[15:22] <root____1> compdoc: so who has the permission?
[15:23] <compdoc> root____1, never use sudo in your home directory, unless youre logged in as root
[15:23] <Guest9804> Hi I updated my system to 14.01, but login password isn't accepting. ONce it accepted, later on reboot it didn't , kindly help
[15:23] <compdoc> see what your permissions are:   ls -al
[15:24] <root____1> compdoc: okay, how do i get my files back now? my home is supposed to be encrypted, i think i brought this upon myself when trying to remove the encryption of my home folder
[15:24] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, and now i'm loosing data "e2label: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda6
[15:24] <TheBigDeal> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock."
[15:24] <EriC^^> liuxg: efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -d /dev/sda
[15:24] <EriC^^> liuxg: then type efibootmgr -v
[15:25] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. I will type it very carefully. it is very long :)
[15:25] <root____1> EriC^^: can you post the command again to find the files not owned by me?
[15:25] <Guest9804> i got password authentication malfunction error
[15:25] <zasani> 7NS IDENTIFY TOOR
[15:25] <EriC^^> root____1: sudo find /home/myUsr ! -user myUsr
[15:26] <root____1> it returned Xauthority and irssi as the files not owned by me
[15:26] <compdoc> root____1, I've had bad luck with encripting the home dir, so I never use it now
[15:27] <EriC^^> root____1: ok, type ls -ld /home/myUsr
[15:27] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, what to do?
[15:27] <rodroma> I cant play any video on any player, audio works for about 1 sec and then nothing
[15:27] <rodroma> any ideas?
[15:27] <root____1> EriC^^: and what do i do with the output?
[15:28] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8885523 this is the output.
[15:28] <EriC^^> root____1: paste it here
[15:28] <EriC^^> just the -rwd--... and owner
[15:29] <EriC^^> *-rwx--..
[15:29] <root____1> EriC^^: dr-x------ 3 ayyy ayyy
[15:29] <root____1> ayyy = myUsr
[15:30] <strega71> film
[15:30] <EriC^^> root____1: ok, type chmod 770 -R /home/ayyy
[15:30] <liuxg> EriC^^, is that OK now?
[15:30] <EriC^^> root____1: do sudo chmod, to get the files not owned by you too
[15:30] <strega71> colpa delle stelle
[15:30] <EriC^^> root____1: or just chmod 770 /home/ayyy first
[15:30] <EriC^^> root____1: without the -R
[15:31] <root____1> EriC^^: okay now it worked, without sudo it said permission denied
[15:31] <EriC^^> root____1: ok
[15:31] <EriC^^> try to login now
[15:31] <EriC^^> root____1: sudo service gdm start
[15:31] <strega71> exit
[15:31] <root____1> EriC^^: job already running
[15:32] <Guest9804> hi
[15:32] <Guest9804> kindly anyone help
[15:32] <root____1> EriC^^: can i just go back to my old login screen instead of GDM
[15:32] <EriC^^> root____1: sudo service gdm restart
[15:32] <Guest9804> my ubuntu 14.01 password isn't accepting
[15:32] <EriC^^> root____1: try gdm first if it's what you last installed used
[15:32] <EriC^^> root____1: you can remove it and reinstall lightdm
[15:33] <Guest9804> Hi EriC^^ Need help
[15:33] <noark> guest : chage pass word
[15:33] <EriC^^> liuxg: you missed a "\" between ubuntu and shimx64.efi
[15:33] <noark> with ubuntu safe mode
[15:33] <Guest9804> i changed password noark but it accepts but later during login it doesn't accept noark
[15:33] <root____1> EriC^^: wow man sometihng really weird happened, my desktop is all default now..
[15:34] <Guest9804> yes, i tried to change password in safe mode itself noark
[15:34] <root____1> EriC^^: well i guess im going to get my files back and reinstall ubuntu and see if that fixes my hard drive
[15:34] <rodroma> can anybody help me? :(
[15:35] <root____1> EriC^^: all this happened because im trying to remove the encryption of my home folder because i think its responsible for my hard drive weird clicking noises
[15:35] <liuxg> EriC^^, sorry, it was my fault. paste.ubuntu.com/8885629
[15:36] <Michael_> Hi. Should I use update-rc.d to create symlinks?
[15:36] <root____1> EriC^^: wait a moment, my files are not there man..
[15:36] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, it worked
[15:36] <Guest9804> what i can do
[15:37] <liuxg> EriC^^, really? thanks for your kind help. So, I can just reboot my machine?
[15:38] <root____1> EriC^^: my files are not there, my documents folder isn't there etc, what could have gone wrong?
[15:38] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes
[15:38] <EriC^^> liuxg: if you want try efibootmgr -o 0001,0000,0002
[15:38] <EriC^^> liuxg: that will clean up the list
[15:38] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. I will do that
[15:39] <martinw0> Hello. I installed 14.10 xubuntu. Now my laptop won't boot through the bios. Could the bootloader have messed that up?
[15:40] <martinw0> I can't boot from alternative media. Jo
[15:40] <martinw0> *How can I fix it?
[15:41] <Michael_> martinw0: what do you mean, i9t won't boot through the bios?
[15:42] <martinw0> It hangs at the BIOS screen
[15:42] <EriC^^> root____1: no idea
[15:42] <EriC^^> root____1: how did you remove the encryption?
[15:42] <sacarlson> root____ I found the reason for that disk click
[15:43] <liuxg> EriC^^, there are mulitple entries there in the menu.
[15:43] <root____1> EriC^^: following some guide, probably deleted my home folder but i had a backup somewhere..
[15:43] <Chuck_Norris> martinw0: if hagns at bios screen then there is a hardware that isn't ok
[15:43] <yorwos> Hi all , im using ubuntu studio 14.04 .My soundcard works only through jack ,can i remove alsa or is jack dependent on it ? im getting an error msg during boot im tired of seeing everytime , some alsaaudio or pulse audio file not found since i clean installed the o/s
[15:43] <sacarlson> root____ there is a setting in western digital I beleave that can change that
[15:43] <EriC^^> liuxg: is Linux still there?
[15:44] <liuxg> EriC^^, all just boot into grub
[15:44] <kamerad> how do i make Ubuntu 14 client forget a DHCP lease? whatever i do (dhclient -r, delete old *.leases files), nothing seems to work. Running dhclient -v, and I still see it trying to do a DHCPREQUEST for an old IP address
[15:44] <root____1> EriC^^: the files on my /opt/folder are the same as the ones before..
[15:44] <martinw0> Chuck_Norris: yes usually. But why just after reinstalling?
[15:46] <Chuck_Norris> martinw0: idk, may be the disk died, when installing OSs the disk works a lot
[15:46] <liuxg> EriC^^, there are 4 ubuntus there
[15:46] <root____1> EriC^^: how do you paste in irssi
[15:46] <EriC^^> root____1: ctrl+shift+v
[15:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: after grub it boots into the installation?
[15:47] <martinw0> I am trying to disconnect it now. You agree there's no chance it was something Ubuntu did?
[15:47] <liuxg> EriC^^, no, it does. all fails to the grub command "grub >"
[15:47] <minas114> hello
[15:47] <Chuck_Norris> martinw0: yes, it is not related to ubuntu
[15:47] <minas114> can I install ubuntu on a usb memory stick?
[15:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, try to boot the live usb again
[15:47] <root____1> EriC^^: doesnt work man
[15:48] <thebigdeal> hello
[15:48] <l3kid> hello
[15:48] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes,  it is booted
[15:49] <EriC^^> ok
[15:49] <martinw0> I know it has a kind of secure boot that is related to that bios replacement? uefi or something?
[15:49] <thebigdeal> EriC^^: i-m not being to able to mount partitions in a live usb
[15:49] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[15:49] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[15:49] <jesk> fresh ubuntu 14.04 installation, /etc/init.d/ssh restart does nothing
[15:50] <jesk> linux is getting more and more windowslike behavior
[15:50] <EriC^^> jesk: sudo service ssh restart
[15:50] <jesk> must be in relation to cloud hype
[15:50] <EriC^^> jesk: is ssh installed?
[15:50] <liuxg> EriC^^, done
[15:50] <jesk> password authentiction was set to NO, i set it to YES and restarted throught init.d script
[15:51] <jesk> had to kill -9, then it was automatically respawned
[15:51] <EriC^^> liuxg: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[15:51] <jesk> Permission denied (publickey).
[15:51] <jesk> argh
[15:51] <jesk> sry
[15:51] <hulio> i can't copy anything to mac drive
[15:51] <hulio> how can i write to HFS+(Mac) drive?
[15:52] <root____1> EriC^^: man i lost extremely important information from work, can you help me find the backup of my encrypted folder? im 100% sure i havent deleted it
[15:53] <EriC^^> root____1: do you remember the name of a file in it?
[15:53] <root____1> EriC^^: yes, i had a folder with all my login data from my work called "access"
[15:53] <root____1> EriC^^: without that folder im lost man..
[15:54] <EriC^^> root____1: sudo find / -type d -iname "*access*"
[15:54] <sacarlson> root____ you can fix you disk click by changing settings in hd with the wdidle3 program https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/hacking-wd-greens-and-reds-with-wdidle3-exe.18171/
[15:54] <root____1> EriC^^: im sure i couldnt deleted it
[15:54] <liuxg> EriC^^, done, paste.ubuntu.com/8885920
[15:56] <root____1> EriC^^: okay its running
[15:56] <root____1> EriC^^: it found nothing :(
[15:56] <root____1> EriC^^: im trying different file names
[15:56] <EriC^^> liuxg: type efibootmgr -v
[15:57] <EriC^^> root____1: any other file you remember?
[15:57] <EriC^^> root____1: remove the -type d
[15:57] <EriC^^> ( that means search for directories )
[15:57] <sacarlson> root____ So if you do a disk read or write followed by at least 8 seconds of inactivity the heads will park, that's what makes that click you hear
[15:57] <hulio> why i can't write file to mac drive?
[15:57] <hulio> what do i need tot do  to make it writeable?
[15:58] <hulio> i can only see folders
[15:58] <liuxg> EriC^^, done paste.ubuntu.com/8886012
[15:58] <root____1> EriC^^: man it found nothing what the **** if i lost this folder im going to be in big trouble :( a lot of time to recover all the login information
[16:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: try efibootmgr -B -b 1
[16:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: try efibootmgr -B -b 01
[16:01] <liuxg> EriC^^, the first command comes out "boot entry: 1 not found"
[16:02] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8886082. the entry is not found
[16:02] <EriC^^> liuxg: try efibootmgr -B -b 0001
[16:02] <root____1> EriC^^: man is there any way i can find the backup i made of my encrypted folder??
[16:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, is it the same result.
[16:03] <EriC^^> root____1: it was decrypted when you made it right?
[16:03] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok,
[16:03] <EriC^^> liuxg: try sudo chroot /mnt
[16:03] <sacarlson> hulio: http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[16:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, done
[16:04] <EriC^^> liuxg: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[16:04] <root____1> EriC^^: probably yes, i followed a guide, how to geek how to remove encryption of home folder, i can't paste here, ctrl+shift+V doesn't work
[16:04] <EriC^^> liuxg: are you using amd64?
[16:04] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, amd64
[16:05] <EriC^^> liuxg: maybe if we reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[16:05] <maxvi> fn brightness keys don't work on my asus notebook on ubuntu 14.10 but it worked on ubuntu 14.04 so it might be fixed with some updates in the future ?
[16:05] <liuxg> EriC^^, done paste.ubuntu.com/8886149
[16:05] <EriC^^> liuxg: it'll add it to efibootmgr too
[16:05] <EriC^^> liuxg: update-grub
[16:06] <sacarlson> hulio: sudo apt-get install hfsprogs ; sudo mount -o remount,rw,force /mount/point or sudo mount -o force /dev/sdX /your/mount/point
[16:06] <hulio> still can't write
[16:06] <hulio> lol
[16:06] <kokut> EriC^^: This guide http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/ i didn't delete the home folder though, i gave up and only deleted the secondary user
[16:06] <sacarlson> hulio: did you do as instructed?   what did you do?
[16:07] <liuxg> EriC^^, done paste.ubuntu.com/8886164. Do we need to reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed?
[16:08] <EriC^^> liuxg: type dpkg -l | grep grub
[16:08] <hulio> sacarlson, still can't write
[16:08] <EriC^^> liuxg: does amd64-signed show up?
[16:08] <hulio> sacarlson, do you have teamviewer?
[16:08] <GeekDude> Non technically related question: Does anyone know why SciTE is $42 in the mac app store? It's free on linux and windows
[16:08] <sacarlson> hulio: again what did you do?   you are telling us nothing
[16:08] <hulio> i am trying to write file to mac drive
[16:09] <hulio> but i can't, i only see the files and folders
[16:09] <hulio> it's like readonly
[16:09] <sacarlson> hulio: again do you perform the command line as instructed?  if so what did you type?
[16:09] <liuxg> EriC^^, done, paste.ubuntu.com/8886244
[16:09] <hulio> i perform exactly man
[16:09] <hulio> but with my /dev/sdd2
[16:10] <hulio> i got it from 'mount -l'
[16:10] <liuxg> EriC^^, it is shown there.
[16:10] <sacarlson> hulio:  SHOW me what you typed
[16:10] <hulio> ok
[16:10] <hulio> sudo mount -o remount,rw,force /media/phong/YOSEMITE
[16:10] <sacarlson> hulio: you failed to install the package
[16:10] <hulio> it is already installed too
[16:11] <sacarlson> hulio: show me what you installed
[16:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[16:11] <hulio> sacarlson, phong@p:~$ sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
[16:11] <Duuh> hello guys!
[16:11] <sacarlson> hulio: ok
[16:11] <hulio> sacarlson, man, why not using teamviewer and help me out
[16:11] <Duuh> guys i need your help :(
[16:12] <hulio> i have teamviewer
[16:12] <Duuh> i need a C compiler
[16:12] <sacarlson> hulio: to do what?  you did what I would have done and it didn't work
[16:12] <liuxg> EriC^^, done, paste.ubuntu.com/8886288
[16:12] <hulio> sacarlson, to help me out
[16:12] <rypervenche> Duuh: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:12] <Duuh> i tried
[16:13] <Duuh> but don't know how to run it now
[16:13] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, update-grub
[16:13] <liuxg> EriC^^, just now, I got a few "ubuntu" listed there. how can we resolve it?
[16:13] <EriC^^> liuxg: we have to remove them
[16:13] <rypervenche> Duuh: gcc is the command that you would use for the GNU C compiler.
[16:13] <liuxg> EriC^^, done
[16:13] <EriC^^> liuxg: try efibootmgr -v
[16:13] <Duuh> how?
[16:13] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work exit the chroot
[16:13] <Duuh> i mean, i wrote the program
[16:13] <Duuh> saved in .c
[16:14] <Duuh> then?
[16:14] <sacarlson> hulio: looks like you need to disable jurnaling To disable journaling, just boot into OS X and fire up Disk Utility.  Click on your HFS partition, hold the Option key, and click File in the  menu bar. A new option to Disable Journaling will come up in the menu.
[16:14] <EriC^^> gcc program.c -o <nameofprogram>
[16:14] <rypervenche> Duuh: There are a few ways, but the simplest for now would be "gcc blah.c -o blah"
[16:14] <EriC^^> ( @ Duuh )
[16:14] <liuxg> EriC^^, done, paste.ubuntu.com/8886322
[16:15] <rypervenche> Duuh: You might take a look at this as well: http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/
[16:15] <Duuh> where do i have to save the blah.c file?
[16:16] <rypervenche> Duuh: Wherever you like.
[16:16] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, it looks good
[16:16] <Duuh> it says there's no file or directory
[16:16] <EriC^^> liuxg: was there a "Linux" entry or only ubuntu?
[16:16] <EriC^^> liuxg: it could be the entry from the SSD
[16:16] <rypervenche> Duuh: The "blah.c" should be renamed to the actual .c file that you are using.
[16:17] <rypervenche> Duuh: And "blah" should be renamed to the same name but without the .c ending.
[16:17] <Duuh> i know, and i renamed it actually blah.c
[16:17] <liuxg> EriC^^,  I am sorry that I do no quite get you. I have a 14.10 in the SSD, and a USB ubuntu 14.10.
[16:17] <rypervenche> Duuh: Then it should work so long as you are in the same working directory as the .c file.
[16:17] <liuxg> EriC^^, there are two "0000" in the list.
[16:18] <Duuh> gcc blah.c -o blah
[16:18] <EriC^^> Duuh: excerpt from ##c http://www.iso-9899.info/wiki/Books
[16:18] <Duuh> is that correct?
[16:18] <liuxg> EriC^^, may I just start to boot my pc?
[16:18] <rypervenche> Duuh: This is a bit off topic, so if you would like help, I suggest we move to a private message.
[16:18] <Duuh> how?
[16:18] <profall> ./checksamp.sh: 5: ./checksamp.sh: /home/samp/samp03: Permission denied
[16:18] <rypervenche> Duuh: I sent you a private message.
[16:18] <Duuh> first time i use that chat
[16:18] <Duuh> kk
[16:19] <profall> I chmod +x checksamp.sh
[16:19] <profall> Still not working, I am on a user account not root.
[16:19] <EriC^^> liuxg: in the list of entries is there Linux ?
[16:19] <EriC^^> liuxg: or only windows and multiple ubuntu entries?
[16:20] <liuxg> EriC^^, I have one SSD which is a dual-boot disk. I originally got windows, and I partitioned it and I got Ubuntu on the disk.
[16:21] <EriC^^> rypervenche: that's one of the books that are recommended to be avoided i think
[16:21] <EriC^^> "Learn C The Hard Way by Zed A. Shaw." ?
[16:22] <liuxg> EriC^^, I do not have other Linux. I only have windows and Ubuntu.  But I am not so sure whether there is any one preinstalled somewhere in the SSD.
[16:22] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[16:22] <EriC^^> liuxg: try to reboot
[16:22] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. thanks
[16:22] <EriC^^> liuxg: np
[16:23] <skyfall> need some help with the aircrack . anybody familiar with it ?
[16:23] <liuxg> EriC^^, incredible, this time, it works. many thanks for your kind help on this.
[16:23] <Kubius> has anyone used Linux Live usb creator with lubuntu 14.10?
[16:23] <EriC^^> liuxg: no problem
[16:23] <LemonSqueeze> i need to format a usb, i looked online and couldnt find any clear answers. Can any of you guys help me format this usb?
[16:24] <liuxg> EriC^^, the only problem is that I still do not know how to make my USB bootable image.
[16:24] <k1l> skyfall: we dont support wifi hacking in here.
[16:24] <EriC^^> liuxg: i think you have to set the bios to legacy
[16:25] <EriC^^> or you have to make an efi partition on it, and use it with computers that have uefi
[16:25] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, I did that. but I did not make it work. Do you mean I have to set it first before installing?
[16:25] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes, you have to set it to legacy before installing
[16:25] <ktosiek> Hi! Is upstart still the default init in Utopic?
[16:25] <mtn> LemonSqueeze: use gparted: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[16:26] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. I will have a try first. So, you mean that it does not support well for efi. What happens if I use this USB stick to boot from another pc with uefi enabled?
[16:27] <EriC^^> liuxg: not sure as it was installed with uefi enabled
[16:27] <EriC^^> liuxg: if you boot it on uefi it wont work for sure
[16:28] <EriC^^> liuxg: but i dont know if it might work with a legacy pc
[16:29] <EriC^^> ( uefi needs a efi partition )
[16:29] <Kubius> ooooookay
[16:29] <kamerad> how do i make Ubuntu 14 client forget a DHCP lease? whatever i do (dhclient -r, delete old *.leases files), nothing seems to work. Running dhclient -v, and I still see it trying to do a DHCPREQUEST for an old IP address
[16:29] <Kubius> so apparently linux live usb creator does NOT work with 14.10
[16:29] <liuxg> EriC^^, the bootable disk image will be duplicated for the use of students. even if I get the legacy to work, it may not help them, I think
[16:29] <EriC^^> liuxg: if they all have new computers, then they have uefi i guess
[16:29] <LemonSqueeze> mtn: ok i installed gparted though the terminal and its open now, it looks complicated.... you mind walking me through the process of formatting my usb?
[16:30] <liuxg> EriC^^, is there any document that I can refer to make uefi  bootable disk to work?
[16:30] <profall> anyone know how to monitor crontab errors?
[16:30] <k1l> Kubius: there should not be a difference in the releases of 14.04 or 14.10
[16:30] <mtn> LemonSqueeze: read the link. it is not hard to do.
[16:30] <profall> where I can look to see what the issue is
[16:30] <EriC^^> liuxg: you have to make it gpt again hehe :D
[16:30] <Kubius> well there sure seems to be
[16:30] <EriC^^> liuxg: then make an efi partition
[16:30] <liuxg> EriC^^, most of the students have the new computers. the problem is that how we can make a uefi bootable image.
[16:30] <Kubius> the installer comes up with an error when I boot from usb
[16:30] <EriC^^> liuxg: and install ubuntu using that disk & the efi partition
[16:30] <k1l> Kubius: what error?
[16:30] <LemonSqueeze> mtn: ok, will get back to you
[16:31] <k1l> Kubius: you can check the md5sum to make sure there was no error while downloading
[16:31] <Chuck_> Hello all! I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and got a problem. Every time I open Youtube on Chrome to play a video, my system crashes - the screen is totally blank, but it seems like it's working in the background and the lights are on. Is it a problem with flash and can it be solved? Please let me know.
[16:31] <Kubius> gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image
[16:31] <liuxg> EriC^^, what are the steps? it sounds quite complex to me.
[16:31] <EriC^^> liuxg: get the disk's name
[16:31] <EriC^^> ( sudo parted -l )
[16:32] <EriC^^> then sudo gdisk /dev/sdx
[16:32] <EriC^^> then press "o"
[16:33] <oli_b> Chuck_: as far as I know Chrome needs a different flash plugin.  Adobe flash plugin is no OK.   Use:   pepperflash
[16:33] <solsTiCe> hi. where can I share some tips ad tricks (3) about the setup I had to do for my specific hardware for ubuntu ?
[16:34] <kruitifruti> hello me try fix friend computer with ubuntu desktop and was type sudo su i was try remove directory but accidently type rm-rf / and enter too soon, how can i fix now? :(
[16:34] <Chuck_> oli_b: When I go to chrome://flash, it says I do have pepper flash --- Flash plugin	15.0.0.189 /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so --- Isn't that the one?
[16:34] <EriC^^> kruitifruti: it doesn't run with rm -rf /
[16:34] <EriC^^> kruitifruti: you have to enter another option to allow it to run
[16:35] <solsTiCe> kruitifruti: reinstall ?
[16:35] <oli_b> Chuck_: yes, that should be the one
[16:35] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8886618/, this is it
[16:35] <kruitifruti> but i was root i think he use ubuntu 10.04
[16:35] <oli_b> Chuck_: My chromium did not crash but simply did not work until I installed libpepflash
[16:36] <Chuck_> oli_b: So that's ok then? I even tried disabling all extensions to see if that works but it still crashes
[16:36] <Lucax> hello, is there a site that shows wether a package is reliable or not?
[16:36] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo gdisk /dev/sdb
[16:36] <oli_b> Chuck_: do U use Intel or AMD CPU?   Earlier there was a problem for AMD CPU using flash
[16:36] <newname> Lucax, that comes from experience
[16:36] <mtn> Lucax: is it a package in the ubuntu repos? if so, it is reliable.
[16:37] <Xtreme> guys /etc/rc.d/rc.local equivalent for ubuntu?
[16:37] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8886641/
[16:37] <newname> but generally stay within the 'prescribed' packages and you should be fine
[16:37] <Chuck_> oli_b: I have Intel onboard graphics... it's an older laptop
[16:37] <Kubius> OK
[16:37] <Kubius> just ran through the checksum
[16:37] <liuxg> EriC^^, do I need to exit now?
[16:37] <Kubius> k1l: the installer validated, it's clean
[16:37] <oli_b> Chuck_: I found this link: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/internet/3332967/how-stop-shockwave-flash-crashing-in-google-chrome/
[16:37] <Lucax> not from ubuntu repo, it is from sourceforge repo
[16:37] <k1l> Kubius: what error is it then?
[16:38] <Kubius> gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image
[16:38] <newname> then it depends
[16:38] <EriC^^> liuxg: type "w"
[16:38] <liuxg> EriC^^, done
[16:38] <EriC^^> liuxg: does it say you need to restart?
[16:38] <mtn> Lucax: then no way to know if good or safe or anything.
[16:39] <k1l> Kubius: never heard of that error but see if this first answer solves it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/486602/ubuntu-14-04-lts-live-usb-boot-error-gfxboot-c32not-a-valid-com32r-image
[16:39] <newname> what package are you wanting to install from an outside repo?
[16:39] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8886658/ this is it
[16:40] <Wolfwiccan> #madrid
[16:40] <Chuck_> oli_b: chrome://plugins shows I only have 1 type of flash, the pepper one
[16:40] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, press "y"
[16:40] <oli_b> Chuck_: strange... somehow it has a conflict with Your hw
[16:41] <liuxg> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8886670/
[16:41] <Kubius> looks like that worked k1l
[16:41] <Kubius> heh
[16:41] <dakd> is there a way to extract the pppoe username/password for connecting to the isp from a adsl modem?
[16:41] <ankk> hi.
[16:41] <liuxg> EriC^^, so now, can I use the disk to create a bootable ubuntu image?
[16:41] <ankk> how can i use ubuntu's storage from my another computer?
[16:41] <Chuck_> oli_b: Yes, it is a pretty recent thing, since a couple weeks I think. But I did not pay much attention to it till now
[16:41] <ankk> i want to use/reach its storage easily and share files
[16:41] <EriC^^> liuxg: not yet
[16:41] <EriC^^> liuxg: restart the live usb
[16:42] <Kubius> I feel like such a nooob
[16:42] <EriC^^> liuxg: we have to create the efi partition on the usb
[16:42] <liuxg> EriC^^, OK. I will restart this machine, and I will chat with on another machine.
[16:43] <mjayk> dakd: yes not ubuntu based though
[16:44] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, i have booted my liveusb
[16:44] <EriC^^> ok
[16:44] <dakd> not ubuntu based the question or the answer
[16:44] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo parted -l
[16:45] <Chuck_> oli_b: Can you think of why it is crashing the whole system, instead of just the browser? When that happens, I can do nothing else, except to hard reset the system
[16:45] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8886742
[16:46] <liuxg> EriC^^, my liveusb is msdos. is that a problem?
[16:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: no
[16:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo gdisk /dev/sdc
[16:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: sorry
[16:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo cgdisk /dev/sdc
[16:47] <dakd> I need the pppoe user/pass to change my modem because the modem cant seem to keep a connection to irc
[16:47] <EriC^^> liuxg: press New
[16:47] <dakd> or use the faulty modem as bridge
[16:48] <EriC^^> liuxg: press Enter for default first sector
[16:48] <EriC^^> liuxg: then type 300M for the size
[16:48] <liuxg> EriC^^, it asked me to "Press any key to continue"
[16:48] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[16:48] <liuxg> EriC^^, it exits automatically.
[16:49] <EriC^^> liuxg: are you typing sudo gdisk /dev/sdc ?
[16:49] <EriC^^> liuxg: sorry, sudo cgdisk /dev/sdc ?
[16:49] <liuxg> EriC^^, no, I typed sudo cgdisk /dev/sdc
[16:50] <waressearcher2> I have CPU Core2Duo E2160 and command 'uname -m' shows: i686 so when I compile something what options should I use ? should I use: "-march=i486 -mtune=i686" or "-march=i686 -mtune=i686" are they safe options ? will programm be stable after compilation ?
[16:50] <newname> Xtreme, should be /etc/rc.local
[16:50] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, I did that command
[16:50] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[16:50] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8886841
[16:51] <liuxg> EriC^^, it just asked to press anything to continue.
[16:52] <EriC^^> liuxg: you're typing sbc instead od sdc
[16:52] <EriC^^> *of
[16:52] <liuxg> EriC^^, sorry, it was my fault :)
[16:52] <EriC^^> liuxg: no worries :)
[16:53] <liuxg> EriC^^, so, I select "new", right?
[16:53] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes
[16:53] <liuxg> EriC^^, then first sector ?
[16:53] <EriC^^> press enter for the default
[16:53] <liuxg> EriC^^, size?
[16:53] <EriC^^> liuxg: type 300M
[16:54] <liuxg> EriC^^, just "300" or "300M"
[16:54] <EriC^^> liuxg: 300M
[16:55] <Chuck_> Hello all! I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and got a problem. Every time I open Youtube on Chrome to play a video, my system crashes - the screen is totally blank, but it seems like it's working in the background and the lights are on. Is it a problem with flash and can it be solved? Please let me know.
[16:55] <liuxg> EriC^^, Hex code or GUID(L to show codes, enter =8300) : ?
[16:55] <EriC^^> ok, type ef00
[16:56] <EriC^^> liuxg: if you press "L" it shows the list of codes
[16:56] <newname> Chuck - haven't seen this problem. did you try doing a full system update yet?
[16:56] <CarlFK> external sata disk in a usb box.  plug in, unmount, "sudo mkfs.ext4 -L test1 -O sparse_super,extent,uninit_bg -E lazy_itable_init=1 -m 0 /dev/sdc1"  something automoutned it (fine) i unmounted, unpluged, plugged, let it automount, and I don't have rights: touch: cannot touch ‘/media/carl/test1/x’: Permission denied
[16:56] <ubuntuaddicted> for some reason my X server doesn't want to start. well, it starts but then the last line in it's log is (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file
[16:57] <liuxg> EriC^^, I have already entered "ef00". Enter new partition name, o r <enter> to use the current name. Enter?
[16:57] <dakd> Chuck_ looks like a video driver problem
[16:57] <EriC^^> liuxg: type EFI partition
[16:57] <liuxg> EriC^^, done
[16:57] <Chuck_> dakd: Any idea how it can be solved?
[16:57] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[16:58] <Xtreme> newname, thanks
[16:58] <liuxg> EriC^^, it show, 300.00 M for the EFI system.
[16:58] <ubuntuaddicted> the monitor is black but on
[16:58] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[16:58] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo parted -l
[16:59] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8886932
[16:59] <newname> Xtreme, np
[17:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: oops, we forgot to write the partition :)
[17:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo cgdisk /dev/sdc , same steps
[17:00] <liuxg> EriC^^, yeah, right. so we need to do it again :)
[17:00] <EriC^^> yup
[17:01] <dakd> if you have nvidia try using the nvidia drivers
[17:01] <liuxg> EriC^^, how can we write the partition
[17:02] <EriC^^> liuxg: press write
[17:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8886988
[17:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, the partition is there now.
[17:03] <EriC^^> liuxg: great
[17:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, what is the next step?
[17:03] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo mkfs.fat /dev/sdc1
[17:04] <EriC^^> liuxg: we need to format it to fat32
[17:04] <yorwos> has any1 managed to install sony vegas 12/13 on 64bit wine ?
[17:05] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8887027
[17:05] <OerHeks> yorwos, check the wine database
[17:05] <OerHeks> !wine
[17:06] <nszceta> How can I check the real space a folder is using? I ran bedup but I am not sure if there is a difference in the disk space used
[17:06] <liuxg> EriC^^, what is the next step then?
[17:06] <EriC^^> liuxg: sudo parted -l
[17:07] <newname> folder size should take next to nothing, files contained in them do.. you can try du -sh dirname though
[17:07] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8887078
[17:07] <nszceta> newname: is this accurate on btrfs 3.17
[17:07] <liuxg> EriC^^, it is a fat16 file system.
[17:08] <EriC^^> yeah it selects it itself
[17:08] <newname> it should be, unless you are using the compression option
[17:08] <EriC^^> liuxg: depending on the filesystem size
[17:08] <liuxg> EriC^^, is that wrong? we need to make it fat32?
[17:08] <EriC^^> liuxg: i think it'll work
[17:08] <liuxg> EriC^^, ok. got it. it is a small one.
[17:09] <EriC^^> liuxg: if you want though we can do sudo mkfs.fat -F 32 /dev/sdc1
[17:09] <liuxg> EriC^^,  so, I can now start to install it, right?
[17:09] <EriC^^> it will make it fat32
[17:09] <Chuck_> oli_b: I guess I would have to switch browsers now... Thanks for trying though :)
[17:10] <liuxg> EriC^^, paste.ubuntu.com/8887111
[17:10] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, boot the live usb
[17:10] <EriC^^> liuxg: and use the rest of the space for "/"
[17:10] <liuxg> EriC^^, so, we can start to install the OS now? when will the EFI stuff be installed? during the installation phase?
[17:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes it should use the efi partition
[17:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: make sure the bios is set to uefi
[17:11] <EriC^^> liuxg: and select the bootloader on the usb
[17:12] <liuxg> EriC^^, it shall be the bootloader should be sdc instead of sdc1, right?
[17:13] <EriC^^> yes
[17:13] <EriC^^> or whatever the usb is
[17:13] <liuxg> EriC^^, the bios is UEFI enabled. :)
[17:15] <liuxg> EriC^^, now, the installation is /dev/sdc2 ("/") and the bootloader is "/dev/sdc/"
[17:15] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok
[17:15] <liuxg> EriC^^, thanks
[17:15] <EriC^^> liuxg: no problem
[17:16] <liuxg> EriC^^, how is the uefi partition used during the installation?
[17:17] <kwesidev> ho
[17:17] <kwesidev> hi
[17:17] <liuxg> EriC^^, the installation will automatically write sth into it?
[17:17] <EriC^^> liuxg: files are added to /efi/ubuntu
[17:18] <EriC^^> liuxg: yes
[17:18] <EriC^^> liuxg: and it should add it to the fstab
[17:19] <liuxg> EriC^^, thanks! the installation is not straightforward. I think it is worth a wiki for it.
[17:20] <EriC^^> liuxg: there is a wiki
[17:20] <EriC^^> !uefi | liuxg
[17:22] <liuxg> EriC^^, thanks. without your guidance, i do not think it is possible for me.
[17:22] <EriC^^> liuxg: no problem
[17:26] <ankk> how can i use "root" user for samba login?
[17:35] <nszceta> ankk: do you _really really_ need to do this
[17:41] <codepython7771> I've an old pgfplots style in latex on ubuntu 12.04 - how do i get the latest version and install/upgrade it?
[17:45] <enzotib> codepython7771, pgfplots.sty is in texlive-pictures
[17:45] <JoseBravo> Hello
[17:45] <codepython7771> enzotib: I'm on 12.04
[17:46] <JoseBravo> I have ubuntu 14.04 and trying to configure a vncserver now I don't have video outout, just a black screen
[17:46] <codepython7771> enzotib: I already have pgfplots, but its too old
[17:46] <drop_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-xb1miTjoE
[17:46] <JoseBravo> I uninstalled the vnc server but I continue getting a black screen, I reinstalled xorg and same problem
[17:48] <JoseBravo> any idea where can I find what is happening?
[17:48] <Nuovo> chi sa dirmi come passare l'audio in riproduzione ad una cassa bluetooth?
[17:48] <Nuovo> ita
[17:51] <newname> ping
[17:52] <Lucax> hello, what are the most important linux repositories to know about?
[17:54] <looneygod> hello every1
[17:54] <BluesKaj_> Lucax, depends on your software interests for starters
[17:54] <BluesKaj_> otherwise for most users the default repos should suffice
[17:55] <looneygod> hello, can somebody help me? I am having WEIRD problems while connecting to the internet
[17:55] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Strange question, why do you ask?
[17:55] <newname> looneygod, er.. such as?
[17:56] <SchrodingersScat> !details | looneygod
[17:57] <looneygod> I can connect to my ISP's auth page from all systems except my linux computer. The ethernet cable is detected but I can'y ping or open my ISPs auth page
[17:57] <pzkpfw> driver?
[17:57] <pzkpfw> ethernet card
[17:57] <Lucax> bubbasaurus: I just want to know what is avaliable
[17:57] <Lucax> anyhow, got to go, take care
[17:57] <Lucax> ciao
[17:57] <OerHeks> looneygod, maybe you need to instal openJDK ( = openjava)
[17:58] <looneygod> pzkpfw, I didnt get you. I am talking about my ethernet connection btw
[17:58] <newname> what is an 'auth' page btw.. do you mean a pppoe login from a router?
[17:58] <looneygod> OerHeks, I'll try that, but I cant see why that can be the problem
[17:58] <liuxg> EriC^^, I just made the usb stick. however, it still does not boot from another pc.
[17:59] <EriC^^> liuxg: does it boot from this pc?
[17:59] <liuxg> EriC^^, in my current pc, it has one menu for it
[17:59] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, it boots from this pc.
[17:59] <wub_wub> Hi guys, any tips on how to figure out/log what causes Chrome to kill my video display?
[17:59] <EriC^^> liuxg: like usb ...
[17:59] <newname> oh yeah, more btw
[17:59] <liuxg> EriC^^, I can select it and boot it from the menu
[18:00] <looneygod> newname, Basically I have a optic fiber connection to my modem to which I am connected thru ethernet. Ater connecting I have to go to my ISP's auth(authentication) page to access internet
[18:00] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, in the other pc can you select it from the bios?
[18:00] <ethan> Well. That's new.
[18:00] <liuxg> EriC^^, yes, I selected from the bios to boot from the usb.
[18:00] <liuxg> EriC^^, the installation always crashes my grub. I have to use your method to recovery it
[18:01] <looneygod> And this is my first time in an IRC and I am amazed how helpful you people are. Thanks this really makes my happy about the community
[18:01] <Kubius> hrrh
[18:01] <newname> it seems odd that you can't ping something that is pingable from a windows machine, afterall, this should be done by dhcp in any case
[18:01] <liuxg> EriC^^, I am not sure whether it is a problem that the installation always chooses the "swap" created in my harddisk.
[18:01] <EriC^^> liuxg: when you select it from the bios on another pc what happens
[18:01] <newname> maybe check that the connection is in fact using dhcp
[18:01] <Kubius> lubuntu is nice but it has a problem - the mouse doesn't have an icon that shows the system is busy, like you have in windows / kubuntu / etc
[18:01] <Kubius> is there a way to make the mouse pointer do that
[18:02] <liuxg> EriC^^, it just blinks on a black screen.
[18:02] <EriC^^> liuxg: it should mention that you're not using any swap partition during the installation
[18:02] <newname> I'm guessing no software is involved to dhcp the modem
[18:02] <dakd> its no dhcp
[18:02] <dakd> its wins
[18:02] <dakd> or netbios
[18:02] <liuxg> EriC^^, no, it automatically detect it there is a swap in the hard disk.
[18:02] <liuxg> EriC^^, and it uses, and it said that it would format it as well.
[18:03] <looneygod> newname, Another weird thing I noticed while trying to connect. From a different net connection I cant ping my ISP's auth page(x.xxx.xxx.xx). No surprise. But I can through a GUI called"Network tools"
[18:03] <liuxg> EriC^^, I booted into it on another pc, it does not boot at all.
[18:03] <newname> I'd probably smash the modem to pieces then change provider if it was me, but yeah that's damn odd
[18:04] <liuxg> EriC^^, I do not know why it always crashed the grub whenever I install it.
[18:04] <looneygod> newname, No. No software involved, AS I said I just have to connect and open that particular page and login
[18:04] <looneygod> newname, lol
[18:04] <EriC^^> liuxg: me too
[18:04] <looneygod> newname, about dhcp....how do I check that??
[18:05] <liuxg> EriC^^, does it should appear in the boot menu if it is meant for a usb bootable image?
[18:05] <newname> in ubuntu the network manager (icon on the top right corner) should take care of it, and it's expected that a default install already does that
[18:05] <liuxg> EriC^^, I thought it should be independent with interfering the grub already installed.
[18:06] <newname> but you could try in a terminal - sudo dhclient eth0 assuming eth0 is the right interface
[18:06] <liuxg> EriC^^, in the menu, it always shows "/dev/sdb2" something like that after I ran the grub commands.
[18:06] <newname> and if it's already assigned, sudo dhclient -r eth0 first (releases the lease) and then sudo dhclient eth0
[18:07] <looneygod> newname, sorry still couldnt find it. My network doesnt have a name as such (I am not explaining this right). Therefore it wont appear on the list of connections. Thus I cant check it's configuration
[18:07] <liuxg> EriC^^, anyway, thanks for your help on this. I am going to sleep. it is 2:00pm here.
[18:07] <EriC^^> liuxg: ok, good night
[18:07] <looneygod> newname, its eth1. But that code returned nothing
[18:08] <liuxg> EriC^^, have a good day to you!
[18:08] <ubuntuaddicted> im completely stuck, i can't figure out why X is not starting
[18:08] <newname> looneygod, then try ifconfig eth0 and note if it shows an IP address
[18:08] <amikrop> Hi, how can I add the Euro sign to Ctrl+E? In previous versions there was an easy graphical way to do that
[18:09] <looneygod> newname,  I have tried ip "link show up". The eth1 actually does recognise the wire connection
[18:09] <newname> dhclient eth0 will usually return nothing, the standard way is just to configure 'automatic' network config with the gui, but that's an easier method than guiding you through that (I'm not sitting at a ubuntu box)
[18:10] <newname> or dhclient eth1 rather, in either case.. it's a matter of checking if you're assigned an IP address
[18:10] <Glda19> hi
[18:10] <looneygod> newname, wow ifconfig eth1 showed me both ipv4 and v6. Till now i remember seeing only ipv6 addr. SOmething's changed
[18:11] <Glda19> How can i install linux on a ssd 128 gb and a 1TB HD
[18:11] <newname> are you on an ipv6 capable isp maybe?
[18:11] <wub_wub> So, Chrome(ium) shuts down my display(s) - any idea where to start with figuring out what goes wrong there... I'm thinking it's something driver related - but I have no idea.
[18:11] <newname> if so I suggest go through network manager, and enable ipv6 support
[18:12] <looneygod> newname, idk. But I dont think so. Remember, the auth page had this kind of addr x.xxx.xxx.xxx
[18:12] <bubbasaures> Glda19, Anything installed as of now?
[18:12] <newname> ahhh, then maybe not, but try again now
[18:12] <skyfall> can anyone guide me for enabling the wobbly,fire effects etc in compiz
[18:12] <skyfall>  ?
[18:12] <netlar> I have an Epson WF-3540 and I installed it with Epson's linux driver.  But simple scan will not detect the scanner.  What can I do to fix this? I am on Ubuntu 14.04 64
[18:12] <looneygod> I did. No avail
[18:13] <newname> if all else fails.. I suggest posting on the ubuntu forums and checking to see if anyone has the same setup/isp/etc and how to get round it
[18:13] <Glda19> can anyone help me to intall linux on a ssd 128gb and a 1TB HD
[18:13] <skyfall> how can i enable the effects in compiz ?
[18:13] <newname> maybe someone does and can help
[18:13] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Make sure you know the reset for unity and compiz before you tweak compiz
[18:13] <amikrop> Hi, how can I add the Euro sign to Ctrl+E? In previous versions there was an easy graphical way to do that
[18:13] <skyfall> bubbasaures, by reset what u mean ? the changes are permanent/
[18:14] <skyfall> ?
[18:14] <looneygod> newname, Something is definitely changing. I can ping now(before this I couldnt ping even thru the wifi network(different ISP) I am using right now)
[18:14] <bubbasaures> skyfall, no change is permanent you just have to know how to recover.
[18:15] <newname> looneygod, try this.. type sudo echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf
[18:15] <Glda19> how can i install linux on a new system with a ssd 128GB and a 1TB HDD
[18:15] <skyfall> bubbasaures, is it complex ? do u recommend not using compiz effects ?
[18:15] <bubbasaures> skyfall, The unity desktop is a plugin in compiz, so be very careful is what I mean.
[18:15] <looneygod> newname, I did that. No answers have been posted till now. But I'll try to disconnect from wifi and try to access that site from browser. Maybe my wifi is being preferred over eth1. What do you think?
[18:15] <netlar> Is there a seperate driver that I need to install?
[18:15] <newname> then try getting on your site again
[18:15] <bubbasaures> Glda19, I asked you question.
[18:16] <skyfall> bubbasaures, all i want is to enable the window effects . will it make use of my graphics processor ?
[18:16] <looneygod> newname, I did that= post on forum...trying the code now
[18:16] <Mightcould3> hey, got something i dont understand here, im trying to install Wine from ubu's software center. and it says that in order to do so it needs to remove my nvidia drivers? This doesnt seem right to me cause im getting wine to run windows games. Advice?
[18:16] <looneygod> newname, 208.67.222.222 which dns is this?
[18:16] <newname> your wifi should not be enable at the same time, make sure it's disconnected before connecting to the wired network
[18:16] <newname> it's opendns
[18:16] <looneygod> I have 8.8.8.8 on my resolv.conf btw
[18:16] <skyfall> bubbasaures, because even after installing my nvidia proprietery drivers, im not getting much backup. im using powertop
[18:16] <Glda19> how can help me with the installation
[18:16] <newname> the point is, if you can ping an ip but not an address.. then it's likely a dns error
[18:17] <bubbasaures> skyfall, I can't really help you beyond just saying know the reset, all you have to do is google your release and reset unity and compiz.
[18:17] <newname> hence why try change it first
[18:17] <bubbasaures> !who | Glda19
[18:17] <shaun_> screw windows
[18:17] <netlar> I ran sudo dpkg -l | grep epson
[18:17] <shaun_> windows me sucks
[18:17] <shaun_> me sucks huge
[18:17] <looneygod> But my problem is accessing x.xxx.xxx.xxx right? Already in IP form.
[18:17] <netlar> And got this http://pastebin.com/x6vWppUx
[18:17] <bubbasaures> shaun_, This is ubuntu support not your soapbox.
[18:17] <shaun_> dropbox?
[18:17] <shaun_> what about it?
[18:18] <skyfall> bubbasaures, can you help me with improving laptop battery  ? my battery is draining fast using ubuntu. all i do is use powertop and set the tunables bad to good
[18:18] <skyfall> bubbasaures, will it do any good ? any other suggestions ?
[18:18] <newname> ah my mistake, yeah.. but you said something improved, maybe poke around in network manager settings
[18:18] <Mightcould3> has anyone been able to install Wine and keep their video card drivers?
[18:18] <shaun_> lol
[18:19] <shaun_> Im sure your video card has linux support
[18:19] <looneygod> newname, Also I'll try to access that after disconnecting from my wifi. That means disconnecting from here. I just want to say thanks a ton before leaving
[18:19] <shaun_> on their site
[18:19] <newname> ie, checking to make sure all is setup right, you can disable ipv6 safely but remember if there are two active connections (like wifi) you will have no internet, as only one can be used for internet
[18:19] <shaun_> What card do you have @Mightcould3
[18:19] <newname> no problem, hope it works for you
[18:19] <cybera71p> misi
[18:19] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Battery issues with linux are compounded by no driver support, they are all reversed engineered. The backlight uses the most generally there is only tiny things you can do, I would just by a good battery.
[18:19] <netlar> Guess I will ask some other time
[18:19] <netlar> OK
[18:19] <cybera71p> assalamualaikum?
[18:19] <Mightcould3> yeah i have the linux drivers for linux working just fine, im trying to install Wine and it wont let me keep my drivers. my gpu is the EVGA GTX 770 SC 2GB
[18:19] <ubuntuaddicted> ok, i can actually startx and it works so that means it's some conf file somewhere in my /home/ folder, what folders can i delete to get lightdm back working
[18:20] <looneygod> newname, there? Back!
[18:20] <looneygod> It didnt work.
[18:20] <skyfall> bubbasaures, you meant buying a good battery ? but im not having any issues in windows. so its for sure its not the battery problem.
[18:20] <looneygod> my ping returned "connect: Network is unreachable"
[18:21] <netlar> Or maybe I am invisible, lol
[18:21] <bubbasaures> skyfall, That is really bad reasoning, windows and linux are not even close to being the same, I told you about no driver coverage by the manufacturers.
[18:21] <skyfall> bubbasaures, first i thought it was because i didnt installed the drivers and that is making the os to run my two GPU's at the same time
[18:21] <Mightcould3> and i want Wine so i can play Starcraft and diablo 2.
[18:22] <skyfall> bubbasaures, so i used bumblebee to control the GPU. still no improvement.
[18:23] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Yes a dual card optimus running both cards will use more power, this is not an area I can really help in is all, you just want to loose the comparisons between windows and linux as far as hardware or anything working in general.
[18:23] <Glda19> who can give some instructions to make partion to install linux on ssd and 1tB HD
[18:24] <bubbasaures> Glda19, I have been trying to communicate with you, you have to answer to get help and preface with the others nick.
[18:24] <skyfall> bubbasaures, i was not comparing actually, i was being clear about the fact that there is nothing wrong with the battery rather than  the way its getting drained. thats all
[18:24] <Mightcould3> i guess ill try asking later tonight. ttyl
[18:24] <looneygod> Can anyone help me connect to the internet? I can connect from every machine other than my ubuntu machine
[18:25] <skyfall> bubbasaures, do u have any knowledge of setting the wireless saving mode turn on ?
[18:25] <skyfall> bubbasaures, im using wifi internet for the connectivity.
[18:25] <newname> well i'm off for now, hope to ss you soon ..
[18:25] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Not sure what you mean.
[18:25] <looneygod> wait
[18:25] <looneygod> newname, wait
[18:25] <looneygod> newname, I need u
[18:25] <Glda19> can someone help me with the installation of ubuntu
[18:26] <newname> sorry dude, hope you solve it, see you for now
[18:26] <skyfall> bubbasaures, wireless powersaving mode. i cant turn it to good while at the tunables (in powertop)
[18:26] <looneygod> hmmm... ok
[18:26] <looneygod> Can anyone help me connect to the internet? I can connect from every machine other than my ubuntu machine
[18:26] <looneygod> Crying out for help one last time
[18:26] <looneygod> Can anyone help me connect to the internet? I can connect from every machine other than my ubuntu machine
[18:27] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Ah, never even heard of it, sounds like a app included with the optimus setup.
[18:27] <skyfall> bubbasaures, do you have any idea of turning the wireless power saving mode on ?
[18:28] <Glda19> is there someone that can help me with the installation
[18:28] <bubbasaures> skyfall, On the one laptop I actually take places, I have all laptops, I bought a 12 hr battery that fixed any battery issues. Otherwise all your other issue I'm not familiar with, you will be better helped by just letting the channel know these.
[18:29] <bubbasaures> Glda19, Do you see this?
[18:30] <Glda19> bubbasaures yes
[18:30] <bubbasaures> Glda19, Cool, I have been posting to you since you came on, I have asked you a question.
 Glda19, Anything installed as of now?
[18:31] <Glda19> bubbasaures can whe chat prived
[18:32] <bubbasaures> Glda19, No, you want the channel for peer review, you can turn of the join and part messages often on your IRC client to make things easier.
[18:33] <bubbasaures> this can be a hard place to follow without that
[18:33] <Glda19> bubbasaures what did you meen i use mirc
[18:35] <bubbasaures> Glda19,  I was just assuming you wanted a priv due to not being able to follow the channel and people addressing you.
[18:35] <Glda19> bubbasaures ok
[18:35] <bubbasaures> Glda19, The important question for me is, is there any OS on these HD's now?
[18:36] <Glda19> bubbasaures its a brand new pc
[18:36] <bubbasaures> Glda19, and if there is what exactly is there
[18:36] <bubbasaures> Glda19, So brand new no windows, no apple, no linux right?
[18:37] <Glda19> no
[18:37] <Glda19> bubbasaures i bougth the pc systerday
[18:38] <bubbasaures> Glda19, I can't help you, we are not even close to communicating.
[18:38] <Guest49299> Hi, guys, I just downloaded an app called "WorkRave" that will help me control the amount of time I spend on the computer. It said it was made for linux. I have it on my desktop. I clicked "executable". but I don't know how to open being I am mostly a windows user.
[18:38] <Glda19> bubbasaures why can't you help me
[18:38] <bubbasaures> took forever to get your attention and we are not on the same page is all, Glda19 you are not even answering a simple question.
[18:39] <nszceta> Guest49299: you need to install Wine
[18:39] <nszceta> Wine will let you run many Windows programs
[18:39] <Guest49299> Even if it said it was for windows and linux? I still need wine?
[18:39] <Glda19> bubbasaures i answerd your question the ssd and the hd is black
[18:39] <nszceta> Guest49299: in ubuntu you need to use aptitude to install software
[18:39] <Glda19> bubbasaures i answerd your question the ssd and the hd is blanck
[18:40] <nszceta> Guest49299: unless you really know what you are doing
[18:40] <nszceta> do not deviate from apt
[18:40] <nszceta> Guest49299: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/workrave/
[18:40] <Guest49299> hummm o.k.,     Do you guys know of any app that will be easy to download that will control computer use for Linux?
[18:41] <nszceta> yeah, teamviewer
[18:41] <nszceta> it sucks but its "easy" to get started
[18:41] <bubbasaures> Glda19, No you did not say they were blank, and prefaced the message with my nick, but it is an important point. Just boot the live ubuntu and install it to the SSD and use the other HD to store what is needed.
[18:41] <Guest49299> oh  sorry  I see your link now   thanks
[18:42] <Glda19> bubbasaures but i want to put my home on the hdd
[18:43] <Glda19> how can help me to isntall ubuntu on a ssd and hdd
[18:43] <nszceta> do you know how to read a manual?
[18:44] <profall> install it on the SSD and then mount the hdd.
[18:44] <profall> after install
[18:44] <bubbasaures> Glda19, Cool, the manual install called "something else" in the install gui's gives you the option to separate home and root, others will be better in this area. Having these separate is rather old school, ubuntu does not advise this in general.
[18:46] <bubbasaures> I have never had a separate home in the 7 years I have used open source
[18:46] <Glda19> bubbasaures it's better for the ssd
[18:46] <bubbasaures> Glda19, That is a myth, ssd and spinning HD's have the same mean life now.
[18:46] <profall> You'd want to put it all on the SSD, and use the HDD for storage. Otherwise your just defeating the purpose of having an SSD, unless you want to setup some sort of cache system.
[18:47] <bubbasaures> SSD's are just more expensive, they have the same lifetime
[18:47] <faust> Glda19: You may use SSD just as a cache device and keep root and home on the HDD...
[18:48] <profall> Yes, faust but is an SSD-Cache really viable in a desktop environment ?
[18:48] <faust> why not?
[18:48] <Glda19> faust why put root on hdd
[18:48] <profall> how big is the SSD Glda19?
[18:49] <Glda19> profall 128 GB
[18:49] <marco__> I just bought an usb wifi dongle. lsusb says "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0cf3:e004 Atheros Communications, Inc." but dmesg says "rt2800_init_eeprom: Error - Invalid RT chipset detected." What should I do to make it work?
[18:50] <faust> Glda19: if you put everything on HDD and use SSD as cache for everthing you should achieve better performance: because the SSD will be used to store data accessed frequently also if it is in your home (in desktop environment I expect a lot of ~/.* dirs to be accessed frequently)
[18:50] <profall> Glda19 just installed everything on the SSD and mount the HDD later on. No point in separating system files if you have 128GB, I thought you had like an old school 6GB SSD or something.
[18:50] <bubbasaures> marco__, Wifi dongles are cheap, and many plug and play, there are hundreds on amazon, I would get one that plugs and works.
[18:50] <profall> Faust that's been proven wrong
[18:50] <faust> profall: what?
[18:51] <Glda19> frofall why not put the home on the hdd
[18:51] <faust> of course if youmanage to put everything on SSD it will be better
[18:51] <faust> than using SSD as cache...but I don't think it is always possible
[18:52] <Glda19> why put every thing on the ssd
[18:52] <cybrhuman> Glda19: because it is faster
[18:52] <Glda19> Cyber_Akuma i now
[18:53] <bubbasaures> marco__ I believe the one you have needs a wrapper and is just a hassle to get working if at all, others may confirm this.
[18:53] <profall> your using this for a desktop environment right?
[18:53] <profall> like on your laptop or desktop GLda19?
[18:54] <faust> profall: I'm still waiting an answer...
[18:54] <cybrhuman> Glda19: if you want to use the HDD for storage I would mount it in your home catalog on a directory that hosts large files.
[18:54] <Glda19> profall desktop
[18:54] <marco__> bubbasaures, the box says it supports linux. That is why I bought this one
[18:55] <profall> faust just google ssd-caching and you'll see all the benchmarks done between straight SSD, SSD-Cache and standard HDD. SSD beats ssd-cache and standard HDD everytime.
[18:55] <profall> it's an in-between and great for providers that want to offer a lot of space but better speeds then HDD, but it's no SSD.
[18:56] <bubbasaures> marco__, You might look through this link, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=rt2800
[18:56] <faust> profall: well...it is quite obivious
[18:56] <faust> ssd as cache cannot be as fast as pure ssd
[18:56] <profall> So you answered your own question?
[18:56] <ubuntuaddicted> my xubuntu session settings are not being restored.. any thoughts of how to fix? i have no panels, no cairo-dock etc etc
[18:56] <faust> but if you have a lot of data you cannot put everything on ssd
[18:57] <faust> unless you have a big ssd
[18:57] <profall> Yes, but in a desktop environment I just mount the HDD and pick and choose what I put on there. All my music, movies, etc... are on the HDD while all system files/games are on the SSD.
[18:57] <bubbasaures> marco__, Personally I would want it to plug and work, you will have to decide what you like best, hope you get this resolved. ;)
[18:57] <profall> Since the system files won't take up all that much space and anything demanding should be on the SSD anyway. THis is what I am suggesting to Glda19.
[18:58] <profall> You can always symlink stuff if it really bothers you as well lol
[18:59] <jhon> hi
[18:59] <jhon> I need help about oracle
[19:00] <bubbasaures> jhon, You trying to get on the yacht team?
[19:01] <faust> profall: I think it depends on the type of files do you have...
[19:02] <faust> if you manage to keep big and rarely accessed files on HDD bye hand you can do it, but maybe a cache is more userfriendly
[19:03] <jhon> How can I configure oracle-xe? thanks
[19:03] <bubbasaures> marco__, Here is a wiki as well, there is excellent help in this area by a couple of regulars on the ubuntu forums, you might consider a thread made there. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:04] <S3v3n> anyone one with repo xp?
[19:04] <jhon> can you help me?
[19:05] <bubbasaures> S3v3n, repo xp?
[19:06] <cybrhuman> faust: isn't it more about how you access the files? sequential reads from spinning disks tend to be fast, doesn't it, so most media files will have a great time on an HHD?
[19:06] <bubbasaures> Can we take the chat/arguement to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:06] <S3v3n> bubbasaures: I downloaded eclilpse luna, and tried to add a repo for updates, but the manager says that it can't find the url
[19:07] <bubbasaures> S3v3n, Ah, I'm not familiar with those is all.
[19:08] <S3v3n> this is the error: W:Failed to fetch http://download.eclipse.org/releases/luna/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[19:08] <bubbasaures> S3v3n, Do you have a link on how you set this up?
[19:08] <bubbasaures> S3v3n, What release are you running?
[19:08] <S3v3n> kernel or mint?
[19:08] <kostkon> !mint
[19:08] <faust> cybrhuman: with HDD you still have things like spin up time and fragmentation. However SSD should be faster than HDD also for sequential reads
[19:09] <bubbasaures> S3v3n, mint is not supported here, what OS is this and it's release.
[19:09] <S3v3n> lol
[19:09] <S3v3n> that's funny.
[19:09] <S3v3n> exit
[19:09] <jhon> I have a quention
[19:09] <bubbasaures> hardeee har har
[19:09] <jhon> question*
[19:10] <jhon>  I need install oracle-xe but I could't
[19:10] <waressearcher2> any suggestions for terminal with multiple tabs ? I used to use mrxvt but I want to try some other one, not konsole
[19:10] <bubbasaures> jhon, I'm not sure what you want is supported here technically, however you may get help if you can detail the issue.
[19:12] <jhon> I install oracle-xe I need help with the configurate for generate connections in my developer sql
[19:13] <jhon> I was looking videos in youtube but I did't understand
[19:17] <cybrhuman> faust: it is not a problem for normal use of media files.
[19:20] <faust> cybrhuman: a fragmented media file can be a problem also waiting 1 to 4 seconds just to start to read a file can be a problem, but this is just a matter of opinion
[19:26] <WizardGed> Has anyone here heard about Joey Hess yet?
[19:29] <cybrhuman> faust: media files don't fragment in normal use. I have not experienced spinning up and down interrupting music for me, nor movies.
[19:32] <Kubius> anyone got a suggestion for a mouse cursor for Lubuntu that has a state to show when a program is loading?
[19:34] <faust> cybrhuman: fragmentation mostly depends on how you acquire those files, usually you will download them, if you more than one concurrently and your software does not allocate the requird space before starting the download your files will be likely fragmented expecially when your disk start beeing full. About the spin up time: it's something that you would experience if you have a device dedicated to media files and you don't access them continously, the
[19:34] <faust> first time you will try do to so you will wait (if some power saving profile has stopped it because it was not used), of course if you have an high and disk you may not notice a 0.1s delay, but with cheaper disk you will certain notice a 5s delay
[19:40] <merpnderp> I'm on 14.14LTS and I'm trying to get a systemd service set up but I don't have systemctl available as a command. ANyone know what I'm missing?
[19:41] <bekks> merpnderp: 14.04 uses upstart, not systemd.
[19:41] <merpnderp> bekks: weird, because systemd.services is installed by default (at least on this distro)
[19:42] <bekks> merpnderp: Which doesnt change the fact, that 14.04 uses upstart :)
[19:42] <merpnderp> bekks: I thought it was weird there were only two services in the systemd dir :P
[19:42] <merpnderp> bekks: is it worth while to get systemd installed and config'd or is upstart going to be around for a while?
[19:43] <Kubius> anyone here have a good mouse theme that works with lubuntu?
[19:43] <bekks> merpnderp: 14.04 is supported until 2019, and until then it will use upstart.
[19:44] <Kubius> I need a mouse theme for lubuntu that shows when a program's loading
[19:44] <merpnderp> bekks: the syntax for upstart actually looks a little easier than systemd. But both are way better than init
[19:44] <cybrhuman> faust: I am fairly certain that most used software preallocates. first time access being slow is not that much of an annoyance to me at least, interruptions on the other hand.
[19:45] <faust> cybrhuman: that's why I said that this is just a matter of opinion
[19:45] <Kubius> I tried using ubuntaero with lubuntu's "customize look and feel" because it's an x11 mouse theme, but it didn't work
[19:45] <Kubius> anyone got any thoughts
[19:46] <cybrhuman> Kubius: you are thinking about a hourglass-like effect like in windows?
[19:46] <Kubius> yep
[19:47] <Basket_> i have rtcwake in a cronjob except it never runs
[19:47] <Kubius> tried http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntaero+-+Aero+based+w%2B+animated+logo?content=108598 via Customize Look and Feel which uses lxappearance, the program crashed when I tried to install it
[19:47] <tfh> I tried to update to 14.10 from my software updater, it says my system is uptodate, I'm sure I'm running 14.04.. any ideas?
[19:48] <merpnderp> bekks: I don't understand what I"m seeing. I googled it and upstart scripts are still in /etc/init.d. But when I look at those scripts they are still sysvinit scripts.....Or am I missing someting?
[19:48] <bekks> !upstart | merpnderp
[19:49] <Ryiel> Hey ho
[19:50] <Kubius> cybrhuman: any ideas?
[19:50] <cybrhuman> Kubius: uhm, not really, trying to install lxappearance here now.
[19:50] <Ryiel> has anyone encountered this language id specifier not provided by device, defaulting to english error message before ubuntu starts up? I have an acer c720 chromebook with xubuntu installed on it. I googled it but couldnt find a whole lot about it...
[19:51] <merpnderp> bekks: thanks. One more quick question. How do I know if the sshd.conf in init.d is running or the ssh.conf in init is running?
[19:51] <Kubius> cybrhuman: what distro are you running?
[19:51] <cybrhuman> faust: yes, it is, but I reacted since you suggested something that seemed a bit complicated compared to the mount and symlink approach for no gain under normal circumstances.
[19:51] <cybrhuman> Kubius: ubuntu
[19:52] <Kubius> eep
[19:52] <niee> hi folks. any one to help me? my ubuntu not view my shared folder in local network. my phone view this folder, but my ubuntu not. any ideas?
[19:52] <faust> cybrhuman: well I just suggested an alternative, I don't know what "OP" needs are, I just give him another alternative so he can choose on its own what is better
[19:53] <waressearcher2> niee: can you ping that shared folder ?
[19:53] <cybrhuman> faust: yes, but often alternatives are more of a prison than a freedom.
[19:53] <niee> waressearcher2: not. give me more info please.
[19:54] <cybrhuman> Kubius: I was just trying to see if I could crash this program.
[19:54] <Kubius> ah
[19:54] <cybrhuman> Kubius: have you run the program from a terminal?
[19:54] <faust> cybrhuman: well in this view Ubuntu should not exists
[19:55] <Kubius> I've not run it directly yet, only via the "customize look and feel"
[19:55] <faust> it's just another debian spin-off
[19:56] <Ryiel> Ok, got the full error message: [ 2.330190] usb 1-4: language id specifier not provided by device, defaulting to English
[19:56] <niee> waressearcher2: i have ping to computer N2 (shared folder), but not view this folder.
[19:56] <Ryiel> It wouldn't bother me much but it takes like a minute to start up the system because of this
[19:57] <Kubius> tried running it from a terminal, froze and had to ctrl-alt-F1
[19:57] <Kubius> ay caramba
[19:57] <Kubius> this just isn't getting any better
[19:58] <tfh> I tried to update to 14.10 from my software updater, it says my system is up-to-date, I'm sure I'm running 14.04.. any ideas?
[19:59] <Kubius> cybrhuman: having any luck on your end?
[19:59] <OerHeks> tfh go into softwarecenter > sources, and set update to 'any new version'
[19:59] <cybrhuman> Kubius: I have great luck unfortunately, so I can't get it to crash. :-(
[19:59] <Kubius> well
[19:59] <Kubius> I'm on lubuntu, not ubuntu (as I mentioned)
 I've already got it set to "any new version"
[20:00] <Kubius> so that's probably a component of the issue
[20:00] <Kubius> different desktop environment
[20:00] <Kubius> that's why I went 'eep'
 do  I need to restart after that?
[20:00] <OerHeks> tfh, no, i think just run:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:01] <shadowstrider> hello
[20:01] <cybrhuman> Kubius: you use different repos?
[20:01] <Kubius> I just have whatever lubuntu comes with
[20:01] <azus> Hello everybody
[20:01] <Kubius> it has different components, such as lxappearance
[20:01] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades
[20:02] <Kubius> lxappearance being an lxde program
[20:02] <zeusssss> ...
[20:02] <Kubius> and lxde being what differentiates lubuntu from ubuntu
[20:02] <Kubius> for the most part
[20:02] <Kubius> as well as as different "fluff" programs (word processor, calculator, etc)
[20:03] <ChrisLuck> hi guys, i am trying to disable mouse acceleration using xinput. Has anyone experience here?
[20:03] <cybrhuman> faust: well, they seem rather different in who they target.
[20:04] <OerHeks> ChrisLuck, why not use the proper systemsettings > mouse > pointerspeed ?
[20:04] <cybrhuman> Kubius: I have lxde in my repos too, so I do believe we use the same repos anyway,
[20:04] <Kubius> yokay
[20:04] <ChrisLuck> ok i will try that OerHeks
[20:04] <cybrhuman> Kubius: just different default programs.
[20:05] <cybrhuman> Kubius: but you say that lxappearance crashes the X session?
[20:06] <vicatcu> anyone have advice on getting "disable touchpad while typing" to work on 14.04?
[20:06] <Kubius> it did when I tried to run it from console
[20:06] <Kubius> won't do that again
[20:06] <Kubius> what my original problem is:
[20:06] <teaearlgraycold> In the network manager, if I'm connected to a VPN and I loose connection to the VPN, will my network traffic still go through to the internet?
[20:06] <Kubius> I open up 'customize look and feel' which passes to lxappearance from what I can tell
[20:06] <Kubius> I install the theme from tar file
[20:06] <Kubius> the program crashes
[20:07] <Kubius> I reopen the program, the theme's there but doesn't actually appear to work
[20:07] <absk007> i installed Ubuntu but i'm facing the Unity cache bug. Please suggest me some other awesome cool looking distros like Ubuntu 14.10
[20:08] <OerHeks> absk007, unity cache bug?
[20:08] <faust> cybrhuman: ubuntu was not the first distro aimed to be user friendly, on the long run it showed to be a better alternative than the others, but at first it was only another alternative.
[20:08]  * bekks has no Unity cache bugs
[20:08] <touil76> Hello. I have a  problem with my samsung n220 laptop. Randomly, after going to suspended to ram state, the computer cannot be woken up.
[20:09] <touil76> Even pressing the caps lock key does not light up the corresponding led when this happens.
[20:09] <touil76> I use the ubuntu 12.04 distro and don't want to upgrade to 14.04, as a friend of mine experiences the same issue with ubuntu 14.04.
[20:10] <OerHeks> touil76, same hardware?
[20:10] <bishopstix> quick question: My ubuntu resets sound to silent everytime i restart system. I run 12.04. Any idea how to fix this?
[20:11] <absk007> OerHeks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1240848 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1284164
[20:11] <touil76> No OerHeks, not the same hardware.
[20:12] <vicatcu> hello all
[20:12] <OerHeks> absk007, 1st bug is not related to 14.04/14.10, and 2nd "bug" > 10:15:17 up 14 days, 1:20, 24 users, load average: 1.09, 0.95, 1.33   #  24 users ?????
[20:13] <Miau> h-hello, I don't know much about the commands of irl but, c-can someone help me with?
[20:13] <absk007> OerHeks, so what you trying to convey here?
[20:13] <Spec> OerHeks: type "who" or "finger"
[20:14] <touil76> Does anyone here knows how to track the waking up problem I'm experiencing ?
[20:14] <Kubius> I personally advise not suspending to RAM on a device that can lose power
[20:14] <waressearcher2> niee do you use nfs ?
[20:15] <waressearcher2> niee: or samba
[20:15] <Kubius> cybrhuman: figuring anything out yet?
[20:15] <touil76> Ok Kubius, but that can be nice yet.
[20:15] <merpnderp> I have a myapp.conf in /etc/init and it appears to be correct. But when I run 'start myapp' I get Unknown job: myapp
[20:15] <cybrhuman> Kubius: no, I try to figure out what can crash it.
[20:15] <merpnderp> do I need to register it or soemthing, because the docs make it soudn like it shoudl just work.
[20:16] <Kubius> have you tried just installing the mouse theme?
[20:16] <cybrhuman> Kubius: does lxappearance crash always or only when you try to install the cursor set?
[20:16] <OerHeks> absk007, well, 244 users is not normal, is it?
[20:16] <OerHeks> *24
[20:16] <Kubius> ah
[20:16] <Kubius> so customize look and feel IS lxappearance, just with a different name
[20:16] <Kubius> so yeah it opens fine
[20:16] <Kubius> and can change themes
[20:17] <Kubius> up until I try to install the new theme
[20:17] <Kubius> and then, crash
[20:17] <niee> waressearcher2: samba. comp1, and comp2 use samba under Ubuntu
[20:17] <touil76> So, nobody for my suspend to ram problem ?
[20:17] <OerHeks> absk007,  pastebin the output of your " du -hs ~/.cache/upstart/  " please
[20:17] <bubbasaures> touil76, Did you file the bug I see?
[20:17] <mustmodify> when I do `tar --list file.tar` it just sits there thinking. Is that the correct way to list the contents of an archive?
[20:17] <absk007> OerHeks, bu that what i'm facing. My ~/.cache/upstart directory gets full within minutes. My disk space of 55GB gets full within seconds.
[20:17] <touil76> Sorry bubbsaures ?
[20:18] <bekks> mustmodify: tar -tf file.tar
[20:18] <bubbasaures> touil76, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1390780
[20:18] <bishopstix> quick question: My ubuntu resets sound to silent everytime i restart system. I run 12.04. Any idea how to fix this?
[20:18] <waressearcher2> niee: try #samba
[20:18] <absk007> OerHeks, i'm not on Ubuntu right now and the problem doesn't appear everytime.
[20:18] <waressearcher2> niee: also switch to nfs
[20:18] <theadmin> mustmodify: tar --list --file archive.tar
[20:18] <touil76> Well yes bubbasaures, it's me.
[20:19] <absk007> OerHeks, now I've 28% free disk space but sometimes the upstart bug appears and i get 100% disk usage
[20:19] <bubbasaures> touil76, Cool, it helps if we know the whole story, like you have filed a bug.
[20:19] <OerHeks> absk007, same kernel?
[20:19] <cybrhuman> Kubius: I'll try
[20:20] <touil76> Ok thank you bubbasaures. Someone is asking me to fill an automatic report. I'll do this.
[20:20] <absk007> OerHeks, i upgraded my kernel yesterday. Haven't noticed the version
[20:20] <vicatcu> anyone willing to help me figure out how to get "ignore touchpad while i'm typing" to work on ubuntu 14.04?
[20:20] <bubbasaures> touil76, I see this on earlier kernels on the web, but nothing lately, I wonder if you nhave tweaked the computer to this issue is all.
[20:20] <OerHeks> absk007, last question: did you add any PPA ?
[20:20] <cybrhuman> Kubius: horay, crash
[20:20] <bubbasaures> vicatcu, Which desktop are you using the gnome shell has a addon that does this.
[20:21] <cybrhuman> but after I restart my browser it uses the new cursors.
[20:21] <absk007> OerHeks, a lot
[20:21] <waressearcher2> in tmux one can switch back and forth windows with "Ctrl-b p" for "previous" and "Ctrl-b n"  for "next" but is there a way to use less keys, say just "Ctrl-[" and "Ctrl-]" to change windows ?
[20:21] <absk007> OerHeks, and a lot of 3rd party s/ws
[20:21] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Q: My father (1000km far away) has Ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop, long time not used. He forgot the passwd. Any solution (setting a new passwd, etc)?
[20:22] <Multbrelch> BTW: my father is the only user and there is a guest account
[20:22] <absk007> Multbrelch, 1000km upwards or width wise?
[20:23] <bubbasaures> !password | Multbrelch
[20:23] <waressearcher2> Multbrelch: what about mother ?
[20:23] <OerHeks> !password | Multbrelch , easy to fix
[20:23] <Kubius> aw, hell
[20:23] <mustmodify> bekks: thanks
[20:23] <Kubius> looks like LXDE just doesn't support the program loading mouse icon
[20:23] <Kubius> at all
[20:23] <Kubius> that just outright suuuucks
[20:23] <absk007> OerHeks, what about my question?
[20:23] <touil76> No bubbasaures. I use ubuntu 12.04 with the 3.4 kernel. Very basic.
[20:23] <OerHeks> absk007, you might want to file a bugreport too, or confirm the 2nd one you posted, but i'd like to know some more about the logs..
[20:24] <cybrhuman> Kubius: I thought it was the applications having to support it.
[20:24] <Kubius> well
[20:24] <Miau> Hello everyone. I need help, after I installed the updates for my ubuntu, the "start menu" (I'm sorry for my ignorance, but I'm new to ubuntu) doesn't work anymore.
[20:24] <Kubius> whatever application the desktop is
[20:24] <Kubius> it doesn't support it
[20:24] <Kubius> which sucks
[20:24] <OerHeks> absk007, mostly ~/.cache/upstart/logrotate.log
[20:25] <vicatcu> bubbasaures, it's a pretty vanilla 14.04 install
[20:25] <Kubius> this is hilarious, I'm seriously considering switching to a distro that uses two times the resources so I can have a mouse that actually has a spinny bit when I open programs
[20:25] <Kubius> jeez
[20:25] <vicatcu> bubbasaures, i'm trying to use the gpointing-devices-settings to control it
[20:25] <absk007> OerHeks, i uninstalled and reinstalled it. Even after reinstalling, all space was used automagically. But now for some reason after restarting the Ubuntu i deleted the ~/.cache directory and now it's not getting full
[20:25] <cybrhuman> Kubius: Why not just find programs that starts when asked to and not 2 minutes later :P
[20:25] <bubbasaures> vicatcu, I have no idea whom you aqre
[20:26] <bubbasaures> are*
[20:26] <absk007> OerHeks, but i fear this might happen again!!
[20:26] <touil76> Sorry bubbasaures, it's a 3.2 kernel
[20:26]  * absk007 scared
[20:26]  * absk007 is scared
[20:26] <vicatcu> "bubbasaures> vicatcu, Which desktop are you using the gnome shell has a addon that does this."
[20:26] <bubbasaures> touil76, Cool, hopefully the bug will be found.
[20:26] <OerHeks> absk007, oke, sounds logical, but it is hard to say what is going on now :-(
[20:27] <Multbrelch> OerHeks and all the others, thx
[20:27] <absk007> OerHeks, what if the same issue arises again?
[20:27] <bubbasaures> vicatcu, Heh, little short term memory loss here. I use the gnome shell.
[20:27] <OerHeks> absk007, that ~/.cache/upstart/logrotate.log should give a clue about why logs do not rotate.
[20:28] <absk007> OerHeks, what's log rotate?
[20:28] <absk007> OerHeks, can i just stop logs completely?
[20:29] <vicatcu> i guess i'm using unity ya?
[20:29] <absk007> OerHeks, plz send ur previous msg to me again!
[20:29] <Kubius> cybrhuman: that's like fixing a car by getting another car - it's entirely besides the point and expensive too
[20:29] <Kubius> netbook hard drive is slow, and I haven't the cash to SSD
[20:29] <OerHeks> absk007, logrotate allows automatic rotation, compression, removal, removal of ~/.cache is a temporarily solution, it does not solve the real issue i think
[20:29] <absk007> OerHeks, can's stop all logs?
[20:30] <cybrhuman> Kubius: I know that feel, I have thrown away a lot of programs to get slow netbooks responsive enough.
[20:30] <OerHeks> "all" logs in ~/.cache yes, as you did now
[20:30] <absk007> OerHeks, what did i did?
[20:31] <OerHeks> absk007, you typed "i  deleted the ~/.cache directory "
[20:32] <absk007> OerHeks, but that's a temp. soln. only as u told. But can't i completely stop the apps from storing the logs?
[20:32] <Kubius> cybrhuman: I'd be ok with it being slow if it'd tell me when it's slow
[20:32] <ubuntuaddicted> does ubuntu have a default compositor?
[20:33] <xangua> ubuntuaddicted: Ubuntu comes with compiz
[20:33] <OerHeks> absk007, don't know if that is wise, making ~/.cache read only will give other errors i guess
[20:33] <absk007> OerHeks, one more issue too. There is a error that shows sometimes i.e. "add-apt-repository stopped working" when i login to my desktop
[20:33] <user1234564321> How do I start ubuntu without persistence?
[20:33] <ubuntuaddicted> xangua, alright, thnanks
[20:34] <bubbasaures> user1234564321, Is persistence installed?
[20:34] <OerHeks> absk007, huh? add-apt-repository is a user command, and should not be performed by ubuntu itself, it is a one-time command to add a repo
[20:34] <user1234564321> I have a casper-rw partition, yes
[20:34] <merpnderp> I <3 upstart
[20:34] <cybrhuman> Kubius: would a widget telling about load be helpful?
[20:35] <Kubius> A mouse telling me about loading would be much more helpful
[20:35] <OerHeks> absk007, weird error
[20:35] <absk007> OerHeks, i know. But that's what the error dialog says! Even the cmd takes time to do it's thing
[20:35] <user1234564321> wait okay
[20:35] <user1234564321> i think i got it
[20:35] <Kubius> the worst part is, startupnotify is set to true
[20:35] <Kubius> which SHOULD make it work
[20:35] <Kubius> but it doesn't
[20:35] <cybrhuman> Kubius: and have you set "noatime" in fstab to avoid uneccesary disk accesses?
[20:35] <bialykot> hi all
[20:36] <user1234564321> when i want to start persistence do I put the "persistence" text before or after the -- that is there at the end of the line
[20:36] <Kubius> tbh I don't give a rat's hoot about how long it takes to load
[20:36] <Kubius> I just want to know the program actually started loading
[20:36] <absk007> OerHeks, if u want i can show u a screenshot next time i login to my ubuntu
[20:36] <absk007> OerHeks, do u hang out here often?
[20:37] <Kubius> windows 98 had an hourglass to indicate a program loading. come on people how hard is this to do
[20:37] <OerHeks> absk007, often, but not allways behind keyboard, but there are many qualified helpers here :-)
[20:37] <cybrhuman> Kubius: as far as I know that was controlled by the programs being started.
[20:37] <Kubius> I have gone into the desktop files
[20:38] <Kubius> I have made SURE that the startup notification is set to true
[20:38] <Kubius> but the worst part? lxappearance is not recognizing the mouse icon with the loading symbol
[20:39] <cybrhuman> does it not show up at all, Kubius?
[20:39] <OerHeks> Kubius, you might want to ask in #lubuntu too
[20:39] <Kubius> it does not show up at all, cybrhuman
[20:39] <bubbasaures> user1234
[20:39] <Kubius> isn't present in the theme menu at all
[20:39] <Kubius> OerHeks: tried, got no response
[20:40] <bubbasaures> user1234564321, try this link and it's links. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence#Automatic_Persistence
[20:40] <Kubius> will again, but it seems remarkably dead
[20:40] <user1234564321> bubbasaures: are you a pokemon? o-o
[20:40] <cybrhuman> on my end it does show up in lxappearance at least.
[20:41] <Kubius> cybr: the one with the spinning logo -and- the cursor?
[20:41] <OerHeks> Kubius, never seen that function in lubuntu/ubuntu/kubuntu, where did you get that icon?
[20:41] <bubbasaures> user1234564321, Not sure what you mean, that reference means nothing to a middle aged user.
[20:41] <Kubius> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntaero+-+Aero+based+w%2B+animated+logo?content=108598
[20:42] <Kubius> http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/108598-1.gif is specifically what I want
[20:42] <Kubius> or anything that does something like that
[20:42] <Kubius> I don't need specifically ubuntaero, just any working mouse theme
[20:44] <cybrhuman> Kubius: oh, right, I still lack some of those cursors in the list, sry.
[20:45] <xangua> aren't those mouse themes deprecated¿ 2009 I mean¿
[20:45] <OerHeks> Kubius,  do not expect that to work without Ubuntaero, which is not availablefor 12.04/14.04
[20:45] <Kubius> ok
[20:45] <Kubius> do you have any other theme that might work better?
[20:45] <Miau> (Resending) Hello everyone. I need help, after I installed the updates for my ubuntu, the "start menu" (I'm sorry for my ignorance, but I'm new to ubuntu) doesn't work anymore.
[20:46] <Mops_> does anybody have experience with ENCFS?
[20:46] <Krizo> In your spare time, what do you guys do?
[20:46] <xangua> !ot
[20:46] <xangua> Krizo: life
[20:47] <Miau> *sigh*
[20:47] <cybrhuman> Miau: in what way does it not work?
[20:47]  * user1234564321 laps from a puddle of water
[20:48] <Miau> cybrhuman: It just doesn't open (I'll printscreen it, just a moment)
[20:48] <Kubius> OerHeks / cybrhuman: if you have a better theme I'd love to use it
[20:50] <vicatcu> does ne else have problems with getting their touchpad to be ignored while typing?
[20:50] <vicatcu> it is making this computer painful to use
[20:50] <Miau> cybrhuman: Mind if I upload through imgur?
[20:51] <waressearcher2> vicatcu: are you using laptop with touchpad and while typing you touch it inadvertently ?
[20:51] <mariachi> hey there! I'm trying to play Dear Esther (Native bin version from HIB) and it keeps giving me this error: AppFramework : Unable to load module vguimatsurface.so! any ideas? 64bit, primusrun, Ubuntu 14.10
[20:51] <cybrhuman> Miau: sure
[20:51] <vicatcu> waressearcher2, correct
[20:51] <xangua> !find vguimatsurface.so
[20:51] <waressearcher2> vicatcu: had same issue few days ago on netbook
[20:51] <waressearcher2> sweared a lot
[20:51] <vicatcu> there are settings that should make it ignore touchpad while typing, but i can't get it towkr
[20:51] <vicatcu> to work*
[20:52] <vicatcu> waressearcher2, did you get it solved?
[20:52] <waressearcher2> mariachi: is "dear ester" goes on linux natively or you use wine ?
[20:52] <cybrhuman> Kubius: I don't care much for cursor themes as long as they don't make my eyes bleed, when it comes to aesthetics I am the wrong man.
[20:52] <mariachi> waressearcher2, I'm using the native port
[20:52] <waressearcher2> vicatcu: I used net book temporarely anyway
[20:52] <Kubius> I don't either, I just want one that works
[20:52] <Kubius> this one isn't ugly, but it doesn't work
[20:53] <waressearcher2> mariachi: do you think that game will go on "Core2Duo E2160" with "radeon x300" and 2Gb RAM ?
[20:53] <Miau> cybrhuman: http://i.imgur.com/gGfaSpK.png
[20:53] <vicatcu> waressearcher2, i'm pretty much in this boat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/505007/ubuntu-gnome-14-04-disable-touchpad-while-typing-not-working
[20:54] <waressearcher2> vicatcu: as I said I used it temporarely but I understand your problem
[20:54] <mariachi> waressearcher2, I have no idea... I'm a bit out of the loop in terms of graphic cards models' names sorry
[20:54] <waressearcher2> yes, it was kind of pain
[20:54] <Miau> cybrhuman: Apparently, the only thing that happens is to appear the three icon, on the top left of the screen
[20:54] <vicatcu> i think i'm going to have to just use an external mouse and disable the touchpad altogether
[20:55] <Miau> cybrhuman: Off-topic, english is not my first language, so I'm sorry in advance if I say something wrong
[20:55] <mariachi> waressearcher2, that meant you also have no clue right? lol
[20:56] <cybrhuman> Miau: and rebooting did not resolve the issue?
[20:57] <Miau> cybrhuman: It didn't work, I even tried to update to 14.04 to see if that would fix the problem, but it persists
[21:00] <Miau> cybrhuman: Reinstalling ubuntu would be my only solution? <:\
[21:01] <cybrhuman> Miau: :-/ That would be a pain.
[21:02] <ikonia> Miau: what's actually the problem ?
[21:02] <prima> Ya des fille ici
[21:03] <ikonia> !fr | prima
[21:03] <Miau> ikonia: My "start menu" isn't working (printscreen: http://i.imgur.com/gGfaSpK.png )
[21:03] <Miau> ikonia: When I open it, that's what happens
[21:03] <ikonia> Miau: in what way, that screen shot looks fine
[21:03] <cybrhuman> Miau: there might be a chance to reset unity to defaults
[21:03] <waressearcher2> !de | vohl
[21:03] <ikonia> Miau: I don't see anything wrong with that screen shot
[21:04] <ubuntuaddicted> finally fixed my Xubuntu 14.04 install, got back into my X server. YIPPIE
[21:04] <Miau> ikonia: Like, I mean, you know the icon above the home folder?
[21:04] <ikonia> Miau: what about it ?
[21:04] <Miau> ikonia: Whenever I try to open this menu, this is what happens, nothing shows up
[21:05] <ikonia> Miau: there appears to be a minimise/maximise/close icon in the top left of the screen suggesting that is an image
[21:05] <ikonia> rather than the desktop
[21:06] <ikonia> Miau: do any of the other buttons work ?
[21:06] <Miau> ikonia: No, not really, I tried to open this menu and then I took a printscreen, these buttons appears even if I don't press printscreen
[21:06] <ikonia> Miau: so do any of the other buttons work
[21:06] <ikonia> eg: if you open the home folder for example
[21:08] <Miau> ikonia: Not really, I tried to click on them to see what happens, but nothing happens
[21:08] <ikonia> Miau: not really ?
[21:08] <ikonia> Miau: they either work or they don't
[21:08] <ikonia> do any of them work ?
[21:08] <Miau> ikonia: (uhh, I'm sorry, english's not my first language so, sorry if I said something wrong... :c)
[21:08] <ikonia> Miau: don't worry
[21:08] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Some bits on the lucid torrent are hanging, this looks like it is possibly intentional torrent poisoning. How can I further investigate?
[21:08] <Miau> ikonia: Well, they don't work
[21:09] <ikonia> Miau: how did you launch xchat
[21:09] <bubbasaures> j4s0nmchr1st0s, Torrent poisoning, that a funny one.
[21:09] <ikonia> j4s0nmchr1st0s: that doesn't look like tottent poisoning
[21:09] <ikonia> j4s0nmchr1st0s: how did you get to that conclusion
[21:10] <Miau> ikonia: I installed and opened through terminal, since the search button is not working
[21:10] <ikonia> Miau: how did you launch a terminal
[21:10] <OerHeks> j4s0nmchr1st0s, lucid desktop ?
[21:10] <Miau> ikonia: By pressing ctrl + alt + T
[21:11] <ikonia> Miau: ok, can you please run the following command "sudo apt-get update" and put the output in a pastebin please.
[21:11] <Miau> Hmm, okay, just a moment
[21:11] <cybrhuman> ikonia: might $ dconf reset be the needed trick for Miau?
[21:11] <ikonia> cybrhuman: an interesting suggestion, I'd like to know a little bit more about the state of the machine though
[21:12] <Miau> ikonia: Here, this is what should be showing up ( http://www.opensourceforu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Ubuntu1204-08-alt-f2-search.png )
[21:12] <ikonia> Miau: I know what it's meant to look like
[21:13] <ikonia> Miau: please get the output I requested
[21:13] <cybrhuman> ikonia: probably a good idea, but I figured I should give you what I dug up trying to help :)
[21:13] <XCVB> In bash how send key stokes to a command
[21:14] <ikonia> cybrhuman: it's a good/interesting suggestion, feel free to jump in / help
[21:14] <ikonia> XCVB: example ?
[21:15] <XCVB> when a command ask for input I want to send inputs in bash
[21:15] <ikonia> XCVB: such as ?
[21:15] <ikonia> what command for example
[21:15] <Miau> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8889869/
[21:16] <ikonia> Miau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8889869/
[21:16] <ikonia> oops
[21:16] <ikonia> Miau: straight away no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[21:16] <ikonia> Miau: that is a concern
[21:17] <Miau> ikonia: So uhh... What's exactly happening? :c
[21:17] <ikonia> Miau: looks like samba is having a problem
[21:17] <ikonia> Miau: I'd suggest removing samba/pam interaction
[21:18] <ikonia> lets clear that up first
[21:18] <ikonia> sudo apt-get remove libpam-smbpass
[21:18] <ikonia> then reboot
[21:18] <Miau> ikonia: Hmm, right
[21:19] <cybrhuman> Miau: do you get teh same error if you run "sudo echo "hello, world! " ?
[21:19] <ikonia> cybrhuman: should do, looking at that error
[21:19] <ikonia> it appears to be the samba auth trying to sync the users/pass to the smb db that's causing the problem
[21:19] <XCVB> how can I bruteforce sudo
[21:20] <ikonia> don't think it will effect the desktop, but lets see
[21:20] <ikonia> XCVB: you can't
[21:20] <XCVB> why
[21:20] <Miau> cybrhuman: Lemme try...
[21:20] <ikonia> XCVB: because you can't
[21:20] <Miau> ikonia: I removed it, then I just reboot it, right?
[21:20] <ikonia> Miau: yup
[21:21] <Miau> cybrhuman: Hmm, it worked here
[21:21] <ubuntuaddicted> for some reason i have some kernel's appearing when i hit sudo update-grub and update-grub2 BUT when i view synaptic those kernels aren't installed.
[21:21] <dimi> hey, I'm trying to get a .x86 working on ubuntu but i'm not having success
[21:21] <dimi> i right-clicked properties and set it to executable but it's still not working
[21:21] <dimi> any ideas?
[21:21] <ikonia> dimi: what exactly is the file
[21:22] <dimi> it's a game http://www.indiedb.com/games/air-brawl
[21:22] <ikonia> dimi: do you know how to open a terminal ?
[21:22] <dimi> yes
[21:22] <Miau> ikonia: Alright, I'll be back soon, hold on
[21:22] <ikonia> dimi: please open a terminal, change directory to where the file is and run "file $name_of_file"
[21:22] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone help me with my grub menu?
[21:22] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: thats not really a valid question
[21:22] <Miau> cybrhuman: I'll restart my PC, just a moment
[21:23] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: explain the problem so people can know if they help
[21:23] <ubuntuaddicted> i did
[21:23] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: where ?
[21:23] <ubuntuaddicted>  for some reason i have some kernel's appearing when i hit sudo update-grub and update-grub2 BUT when i view synaptic those kernels aren't installed.
[21:23] <dimi> i get this:
[21:23] <dimi> AirBrawlLinux.x86: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=e924b233b7648255500b0f6fb056b50720334d52, stripped
[21:23] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: can you give me an example of a kernel that shouldn't be there
[21:23] <ikonia> dimi: now show me the ouptut of "uname -a"
[21:23] <ikonia> (please)
[21:23] <ubuntuaddicted> 3.11.0-22-generic
[21:24] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i'm running Xubuntu 14.04
[21:24] <dimi> Linux dimi-desktop 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:30:27 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:24] <ikonia> dimi: it's a 32bit binary so will expact 32bit libraries, you are running 64bit
[21:24] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, uname -r shows 3.13.0-40-generic
[21:24] <dimi> i believe i've got those
[21:24] <ikonia> dimi: run "ldd AirBrawlLinux.x86" and put the output in a pastebin please
[21:25] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-22-generic
[21:25] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, pastebin the output of " dpkg --list | grep linux-image ", it is also a handy list for you to remove all, but not the latest 2 kernels
[21:25] <XCVB> why can't I do this sudo su < password
[21:26] <ikonia> XCVB: because that doesn't work
[21:26] <XCVB> why
[21:26] <dimi> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/kh7fBqwL
[21:26] <ikonia> because thats not a valid input
[21:26] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, here: http://pastebin.com/ZkEUuBcs  thank you
[21:26] <ikonia> dimi: that lookssolid,
[21:26] <Miau> ikonia: Back, and it seems that message doesn't appear anymore when I type sudo apt-get update
[21:27] <ikonia> dimi: so what happens if you do ./
[21:27] <ikonia> dimi: sorry
[21:27] <ikonia> dimi: ./AirBrawlLinux.x86
[21:27] <dimi> "Is a directory"
[21:27] <ikonia> Miau: thats a good sign
[21:27] <dimi> oh, hold on
[21:27] <ikonia> Miau: and your desktop is still broken ?
[21:27] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, here's what sudo update-grub2 shows: http://pastebin.com/tqUsRstg
[21:27] <dimi> ah, no libGlu.so.1
[21:28] <ikonia> those kernels are still there
[21:28] <ikonia> you can see them in the list
[21:28] <Miau> ikonia: Yes, unfortunately... The search button persists to not open
[21:28] <ikonia> they have not yet been removed
[21:28] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, so keep the -39 and -40 kernel, remove the rest  and you'll be fine . sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:28] <ikonia> Miau: that's ok - so one thing at a time
[21:28] <dimi> would that be sudo apt-get ...?
[21:29] <wub_wub> How can I keep logs to inspect after hard reset?
[21:29] <ikonia> dimi: good spot, I didn't see the missing glu
[21:29] <cybrhuman> dimi: should be
[21:29] <ikonia> wub_wub: copy them somewhere
[21:29] <wub_wub> I can't
[21:29] <ikonia> wub_wub: why ?
[21:29] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, they're not installed. synaptic says they're removed.
[21:29] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: they are still there
[21:29] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: use the auto remove or manually remove them
[21:29] <ikonia> then reboot
[21:29] <wub_wub> Because the issue is my display dying so I can't see anything until after I hard reset my laptop
[21:29] <ikonia> wub_wub: boot into recovery mode
[21:30] <ikonia> wub_wub: it's an option from grub boot menu
[21:30] <wub_wub> ikonia, the logs don't get overwritten when accessing from recovery mode?
[21:30] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, autoremove doesn't do anything
[21:30] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, did you manually remove kernel parts?
[21:30] <ikonia> wub_wub: no
[21:30] <cybrhuman> ubuntuaddicted: sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[21:31] <wub_wub> ok, just one more question do I have GUI in recovery mode or do I need to figure out location of logs before?
[21:31] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, i don't recall removing them or not. but synaptic is not showing them as installed
[21:31] <OerHeks> does not look like it, autoremove should remove unused kernels, and update-grub2 will not add them to grub if they are partial removed
[21:31] <ubuntuaddicted> cybrhuman, that does nothing
[21:31] <ikonia> Miau: ok, when did this problem start happening
[21:31] <ikonia> OerHeks: they are in rc status, I'd just reboot and check again ;)
[21:32] <ikonia> OerHeks: or manually remove the config files that remain
[21:32] <cybrhuman> wub_wub: logs should be in /var/log/
[21:32] <Miau> ikonia: After I let the Software & Updates to update my system, but it seems that an error occured during the process
[21:32] <ikonia> try purging the package
[21:33] <ikonia> Miau: thats interestig
[21:33] <ikonia> interesting
[21:33] <cybrhuman> ikonia: which is why I thought about dconf, which should reset the options.
[21:33] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, so if synaptic doesn't think they're installed, can i just manually delete the files from /boot/?
[21:33] <ikonia> cybrhuman: worth a try, I was looking at the possiblity of a reinstall of the unity metapackage + deps
[21:34] <ikonia> but a config reset maybe worth a go
[21:34] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, as ikonia says, try reboot and check again?
[21:34] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: apt-get purge a package
[21:34] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: see what it does
[21:34] <cybrhuman> ikonia: does the cat have another desktop system so he/she can keep chatting ?
[21:34] <ikonia> cybrhuman: no idea, jump in, it's all good advice
[21:34] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, apt-get purge i don't know the package name
[21:35] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic
[21:35] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: you posted the package names in the pastebin
[21:35] <ikonia> for example
[21:35] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: Doublecheck: dpkg -S /boot/thefileyouwanttodelete
[21:36] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, Package 'linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic' is not installed, so not removed
[21:36] <cybrhuman> ikonia: I think you do a good job and "too many chefs spoil the broth"
[21:36] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: check what bekks said, see if there is anything still holding the file
[21:36] <dimi> i think it's got something to do with symbolic linking. argh, this is going to be a lot of work ...
[21:36] <ikonia> cybrhuman: not when it's sane advice
[21:38] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, bekks dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-22-generic
[21:38] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: ls -la /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-22-generic
[21:38] <cybrhuman> ikonia: hmm, maybe, but it was a good thing I waited and reread a bit :)
[21:38] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: does that actually exist
[21:38] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, within /boot/ yes
[21:38] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: whats the output of "ls -l /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-22-generic" ?
[21:39] <nszceta> do linux containers ( LXC ) provide better security than a regular chroot (I am assuming NON-GRSEC kernel)
[21:39] <ikonia> nszceta: thats a pretty wide question
[21:39] <ikonia> nszceta: apply common sense and think about how you are setting them up,
[21:39] <ubuntuaddicted> bekks, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25900004 May 16 18:17 /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-22-generic
[21:39] <nszceta> ikonia: reason I ask is because I want to run grsec + LXC
[21:39] <ikonia> nszceta: then can provide better or worse, it depends on your setup and usage
[21:39] <nszceta> then rbac
[21:41] <Miau> ikonia: *sigh* y'know what, I'll just download the ubuntu .iso and just reinstall it... Since it's the easiest way
[21:42] <ikonia> Miau: seems a big work around, but if that's what you're comfrotable with
[21:42] <Miau> ikonia: But thank you for the support
[21:42] <cybrhuman> Miau: you can try this first: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[21:42] <Miau> cybrhuman: Hmm, alright, lemme try it
[21:43] <cybrhuman> Miau: followed by this: unity --reset-icons , then relogging.
[21:43] <skurz0> http://www.gencat.cat does not load on any browser, can somebody ask to the spanish government to stop DDoSing it and allowing me to vote tomorrow?
[21:43] <Miau> cybrhuman: Oh my, it worked! :D
[21:44] <theadmin> skurz0: The site loads fine here.
[21:44] <cybrhuman> fantastic, Miau :)
[21:44] <bubbasaures> same here
[21:44] <Miau> cybrhuman: I'll even save this in a text file, just to make sure if that happens again
[21:44] <skurz0> wow
[21:44] <skurz0> it ow works
[21:44] <Miau> cybrhuman: Then I can reset it
[21:44] <Miau> cybrhuman: Thank you thank you thank you! :3
[21:44] <cybrhuman> skurz0: first failed to load, 30 seconds later it worked.
[21:45] <skurz0> then, now I need you tou fix assemblea.cat
[21:45] <cybrhuman> Miau: no problem :)
[21:45] <Lucax> I downloaded a package but I don't understand how to put it together. the files are as such: lst, .1, .c, it says charset, unicode and makefile. no sh, install, setup or readme file, how can I proceed with this?
[21:45] <bekks> So read the .c source code and decide wether you want to compile it.
[21:46] <ikonia> or ask the team that made it
[21:46] <ikonia> they can support you through the process
[21:46] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[21:46] <cybrhuman> Lucax: it is compiled using make probablye
[21:46] <elichai2_> hey
[21:46] <ikonia> cybrhuman: nice job !
[21:46] <elichai2_> Num Lock always get turned off somehow, anybody knows why?
[21:46] <TheBigDeal> I lost my wallpapers and my default theme of xubuntu
[21:46] <cybrhuman> ikonia: I guess I should be more triggerhappy :)
[21:46] <ikonia> cybrhuman: not at all, thought, research solution, nice jo
[21:46] <ikonia> job
[21:47] <elichai2_> (i installed indicator-keylock to check that and i can see ~30-60 seconds after i turn it on it's just getting turned off)
[21:47] <TheBigDeal> even after an upgrade
[21:47] <TheBigDeal> what to do?
[21:48] <TheBigDeal> what to do to restore the default settings of xubuntu themes?
[21:48] <TheBigDeal> and wallpapers
[21:48] <cybrhuman> Lucax: have you tried running $ make?
[21:49] <Lucax> cybr: I am trying now but I am new so I need time to get my head around things
[21:49] <xhv>  /msg NickServ identify 12345
[21:49] <thurstylark> I'm having trouble with bluetooth on 14.10. fresh install, and added bluez-utils. I tried restarting the interface with 'sudo hciutil hci0 down' but I was never able to bring it back up. I've tried reinstalling bluez-utils and I still can't get it back up. anyone have a suggestion?
[21:50] <OerHeks> xhv time to change your... is that really a solid password 12345?
[21:50] <xhv> haha stfu
[21:50] <thurstylark> I have the same password on my luggage...
[21:51] <bekks> !language | xhv
[21:55] <Jake> Hi there, is it possible to have a command open it's gui in a specified workspace?
[21:56] <thurstylark> Jake: who are you talking to?
[21:56] <Jake> thurstylark: anyone who has an answer
[21:56] <SchrodingersScat> !info wmctrl | Jake http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3351154/open-applications-in-different-workspaces-in-gnome < possible example, but please read man wmctrl or similar
[21:57] <thurstylark> Jake: Ahh. my bad. Misread that.
[21:57] <Jake> thanks SchrodingersScat :)
[21:59] <dede> hi, I usually use linux, now im on a windows based computer. Every time I select text or images a combined icon twitter/failbook appears. Very annoying, dont know how it got there. This is on a college computer where im not allowed to install addons or anything. How do i get rid of it?
[21:59] <SchrodingersScat> Jake: welcome.
[22:00] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | dede, this is #ubuntu, I don't know why your windows computer is acting up.
[22:00] <dede> 2 bots answers, nice
[22:01] <Jake> dede: one bot
[22:01] <dede> where can I ask?
[22:01] <Jake> SchrodingersScat input the beginning and the bot fills out the rest of the sentence
[22:01] <Jake> try ##Windows?
[22:01] <SchrodingersScat> try your campus tech?
[22:01] <thurstylark> Lab monitor?
[22:03] <TheBigDeal> can't find xubuntu utopic wallpapers after upgrade?
[22:03] <david38400> Can anyone help please, desperate!! I just installed Linux Mint 17 alongside Ubuntu. All went well until it asks for my username and password at boot. I trype it in and it says incorrect. I would like to delete Linux and start again but dont know how to do it?
[22:04] <kokut> Hello, is there a possibility to make a bootable USB drive with my ipod nano? I really need a usb stick to update the firmware of my hard drive
[22:04] <TheBigDeal> SchrodingersScat, what's the problem with schrodinger's cat, did you find some difficulties trying to understand it?
[22:04] <thurstylark> david38400: how did you install in the first place?
[22:05] <onla> david38400:  maybe you tryped an extra r in the middle of your password?
[22:05] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: if you have the space, and it shows up like a regular usb memory device, then you would have a chance.
[22:06] <david38400> thurstylark, I used the live cd and everything went so well and easy. Its just that it keeps telling me the username password is wrong. I tried with the live cd in terminal to change the pasword. It said it was ok, but still having the same problem. Though easiest to delete and start again.
[22:06] <norman_> how can i make my ubuntu faster ?
[22:06] <david38400> onla, Its possible, but how do I found out
[22:06] <norman_> i am just a newbie
[22:07] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: yes, i have the space, do you know what do i have to do_
[22:07] <thurstylark> david38400: If there's no data to save, I would just reinstall over it. Start over.
[22:07] <Shaan> hi can someone help me with my firewall ?
[22:07] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: Should i format it as NTFS? Then what? I need to add some bootable stuff in it
[22:08] <david38400> thurstylark, I put in the live cd again to do a new installation, but it asked if I wanted to delete Ubuntu and said nothing about Linux so it would mean I would have two installations which I dont want
[22:08] <david38400> thurstylark, How could I reinstall over it?
[22:08] <Shaan> this is my firewall script http://pastebin.com/HL7i3H04
[22:08] <thurstylark> david38400: go through the "something else" option, and find the partition you want to destroy, wipe it, and install there.
[22:09] <david38400> thurstylark, I am to new to even know how to do that?
[22:09] <TheBigDeal> how can i fix xubuntu theming please?
[22:09] <david38400> thurstylark, do you mean put in the live cd and use the something else option
[22:09] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: your guess is as good as mine, if it was me I would back everything up then see what unetbootin or similar tools have to say about it.
[22:10] <gl65> hey can anyone help me? Having issues with booting Ubuntu 14.04 on MacBook Pro 11,3.
[22:10] <thurstylark> david38400: did you say you are dealing with linux mint?
[22:10] <gl65> Using rEFInd
[22:10] <david38400> thurstylark, thats right linux mint 17
[22:11] <thurstylark> david38400: it should be covered in the documentation for that distro, then.
[22:11] <david38400> ok thanks
[22:11] <gl65> it's a pain, truly
[22:11] <ikonia> the mint irc channel is on spotchat.net
[22:11] <thurstylark> gl65: can you give more detail about your issue?
[22:11] <gl65> no pc has ever given me that much trouble, and then... I got a Mac
[22:12] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Did brian get his xorg server problem resolved?
[22:13] <thurstylark> gl65: that's not really detail.
[22:13] <gl65> @thrudtylark I installed Yesterday, fixed wifi, and touchpad, when I go to boot now it gives me a blinking cursor, and when I go into recovery mode it stops at CPU SMP or something
[22:13] <Shaan> hey guys this is my firewall script http://pastebin.com/HL7i3H04, everytime i run it only way to get back into box is by rebooting it, can anyone take a look please.
[22:13] <gl65> @thrustylark
[22:13] <gl65> I don't know how to pm
[22:13] <gl65> sorry
[22:14] <Shaan> hey guys this is my firewall script http://pastebin.com/HL7i3H04, everytime i run it only way to get back into box is by rebooting it, can anyone take a look please.
[22:14] <Shaan> hey guys this is my firewall script http://pastebin.com/HL7i3H04, everytime i run it only way to get back into box is by rebooting it, can anyone take a look please.
[22:14] <nszceta> lol
[22:23] <themapplz> anybody around+
[22:23] <themapplz> ?
[22:24] <basil1x> They're here.
[22:24] <EriC^^> themapplz: ask & if somebody knows they'll answer
[22:24] <basil1x> You hafta ask a question before they say anything.
[22:24] <themapplz> ok cool
[22:24] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, I have a problem here :P
[22:25] <themapplz> yeah iwas hoping somebody could help me. i have this little ubuntu server in my basement that i connect to via vnc.
[22:25] <themapplz> the thing is,
[22:25] <TheBigDeal> basil1x, i hafta ask
[22:25] <themapplz> when i connect it connects to 10 screens at the same time
[22:25] <themapplz> http://imgur.com/8KuHzLa
[22:25] <OerHeks> TheBigDeal, "how can i fix xubuntu theming " by telling what is your issue
[22:26] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: what's the problem?
[22:26] <TheBigDeal> yes
[22:26] <TheBigDeal> the wallpaper is solid blue
[22:26] <TheBigDeal> even after a big upgrade to 14.10
[22:26] <TheBigDeal> and no wallpaper in the desktop settings
[22:27] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: try to reinstall xubuntu-desktop maybe
[22:27] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[22:27] <basil1x> TheBigDeal, yes?
[22:27] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: does it happen in the guest account as well?
[22:27] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, don't know
[22:27] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, do you want to check?
[22:28] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: yeah
[22:28] <TheBigDeal> ok
[22:29] <thurstylark> I'm having trouble with bluetooth on 14.10. fresh install, and added bluez-utils. I tried restarting the interface with 'sudo hciutil hci0 down' but I was never able to bring it back up. I've tried reinstalling bluez-utils and I still can't get it back up. anyone have a suggestion?
[22:30] <thebigdeal> EriC^^, awesome, everything works fine i'm new :D
[22:31] <dale_> how do I uninstall something I installed from source?
[22:31] <thebigdeal> EriC^^, What do you suggest then?
[22:31] <EriC^^> thebigdeal: it's a config issue
[22:31] <thebigdeal> dale_, install from source <-> uninstall from source
[22:31] <thebigdeal> EriC^^, so what do you suggest for me
[22:32] <EriC^^> thebigdeal: you have to either rename some config directories until you find the wrong one
[22:32] <thebigdeal> or?
[22:32] <thebigdeal> create a new one?
[22:32] <Shaan> hey guys this is my firewall script http://pastebin.com/HL7i3H04, everytime i run it only way to get back into box is by rebooting it, can anyone take a look please.
[22:32] <EriC^^> thebigdeal: you'd have to create a new user
[22:32] <EriC^^> and copy your stuff
[22:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:32] <thebigdeal> hm
[22:33] <EriC^^> thebigdeal: try renaming some stuff first
[22:33] <ikonia> Shaan: then you can address that rule
[22:33] <thebigdeal> EriC^^, I really hate that account, i need a new one :(
[22:33] <ikonia> Shaan: run it one rule at a time and see which one locks you out
[22:33] <thebigdeal> EriC^^, Okay?
[22:33] <anoia> hola
[22:34] <Shaan> ikonia it works fine on regular ubuntu server but this is a virtual instancso the interface is venet0:0 i even changed it in config still doesn't work but the same script works on other boxes fine.
[22:34] <EriC^^> thebigdeal: try rm -rf ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1
[22:34] <thebigdeal> ok
[22:34] <EriC^^> thebigdeal: do that from your user's account
[22:35] <EriC^^> then try to login
[22:35] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work
[22:35] <thebigdeal> EriC^^, keep that when i log in again
[22:35] <EriC^^> try mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[22:35] <EriC^^> and then try mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.old
[22:36] <EriC^^> ls
[22:36] <EriC^^> oops
[22:36] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: i just remembered xubuntu saves session files
[22:36] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, could you paste that command here again?
[22:36] <EriC^^> try to delete those first
[22:36] <EriC^^> don't know where it puts them though
[22:37] <TheBigDeal> rm what?
[22:37] <TheBigDeal> hm
[22:37] <EriC^^> it saves the old sessions
[22:37] <TheBigDeal> i see, let me do some researches
[22:37] <EriC^^> try ls -a , see if there's something related to xubuntu or xfce
[22:37] <TheBigDeal> ls -a where?
[22:37] <TheBigDeal> in ~
[22:37] <EriC^^> in your home dir
[22:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:39] <TheBigDeal> xauthority, xdefaults xunputrc, xscreensaver xsession-errros, xsession-erros.old
[22:39] <kokut> EriC^^: hey man, do you know if i can make a bootable DOS capable USB Stick out of my ipod nano? I need to update the firmware of my hard drive because its about to self destruct.
[22:41] <EriC^^> kokut: no idea
[22:41] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, .cache
[22:41] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, sessions directory there
[22:41] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: ok
[22:42] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, and a lot of sessions
[22:42] <kokut> EriC^^: Okay, do you know a good tool to recover deleted files from the live cd? Im still wondering if i can recover the deleted files from my home folder before i "lose my job" on monday
[22:42] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: cd ~/.cache/sessions
[22:42] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, yes
[22:42] <EriC^^> kokut: testdisk
[22:43] <TheBigDeal> kokut, testdisk
[22:43] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: type rm ~/.cache/sessions/*
[22:43] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, i told you, there are a lot of sessions
[22:43] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, ah ok
[22:45] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, rm: cannot remove ‘thumbs-antar-Latitude-D610:0’: Is a directory
[22:45] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, some dirs there
[22:45] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: ok, no problem i guess
[22:45] <EriC^^> try to logout and log back i
[22:45] <EriC^^> *in
[22:46] <TheBigDeal> rm: cannot
[22:46] <TheBigDeal> -R
[22:46] <jarno> Sorry to be abit offtopic in channel but i have a ubuntu server running and placed a second server now planning to run centos on there to get abit more experience with RHEL. My question is is there a 32 bit version of CentOS 7 or only 64 bit & if I use the 32 bit version of CentOS 6 will I risk security holes? Regards
[22:46] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, i've added -R option
[22:46] <TheBigDeal> well see you in the next session
[22:46] <ikonia> jarno: that is nothing to do with this channel
[22:47] <Flannel> jarno: You probably want to ask in #centos, we probably don't have any idea about the various versions of CentOS
[22:47] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: hehe :D
[22:47] <jarno> i cannot get into the channel it asks me to create account but don't know where
[22:47] <jarno> :(
[22:47] <EriC^^> /nickserv register <password> <email>
[22:48] <kokut> EriC^^: can you explain how to do it from the live cd?
[22:48] <EriC^^> kokut: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[22:48] <EriC^^> kokut: sudo testdisk
[22:48] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, the same result homie
[22:49] <Spuhghetti> hey does anyone here have an A88XPRO mobo? I need to know ho to boot to grub
[22:49] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: ok, try to rename the .config directory
[22:49] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[22:49] <kokut> EriC^^: select partition table type?
[22:49] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, then?
[22:49] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: log out and log back in
[22:50] <EriC^^> kokut: what was the partition table type it had?
[22:50] <EriC^^> kokut: what is selected in the menu?
[22:50] <kokut> EriC^^: intel, i selected it, what now? advanced? then?
[22:50] <EriC^^> quick search
[22:51] <EriC^^> if the partition shows up
[22:51] <EriC^^> highlight it with the up and down arrows and press "p" to view the files
[22:51] <kokut> EriC^^: i think the partition table is OK, what i need to do is to recover some files (gedit text files) that somehow *i cant understand HOW* were deleted
[22:52] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, everything is fine in theming, but some messages like "system program problem detected"
[22:52] <EriC^^> kokut: ok, so try to see if they show up when you press "p"
[22:52] <kokut> EriC^^: what do i do with the superblocks?? it shows a bunch of superblocks ..
[22:52] <EriC^^> kokut: did you select advanced then quick search?
[22:53] <EriC^^> i mean
[22:53] <EriC^^> analyze then quick search
[22:53] <Spuhghetti> hey does anyone here have an A88XPRO mobo? I need to know ho to boot to grub
[22:53] <Spuhghetti> halp
[22:53] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^
[22:53] <ikonia> Spuhghetti: you boot grub by putting it on the boot sector of a disk your system is set to boot from
[22:54] <kokut> EriC^^: i selected analyse and search for lost partitions, then quick search
[22:54] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: select details
[22:54] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, where?
[22:54] <kokut> EriC^^: but my partitions are OK i need to recover deleted files in my first partition
[22:54] <Spuhghetti> dont UEFI bios have built in grub?
[22:54] <EriC^^> TheBigDeal: in the error msg, after report i think
[22:54] <EriC^^> kokut: i know
[22:54] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, no details
[22:54] <ikonia> Spuhghetti: no, but it is a slightly different approach
[22:54] <ikonia> !efi | Spuhghetti
[22:54] <TheBigDeal> EriC^^, i would read that
[22:55] <kokut> EriC^^: what do i do now_
[22:55] <EriC^^> kokut: did the partition show up?
[22:56] <jhon>  can anyone recommend me some pages for learn java?
[22:56] <EriC^^> kokut: press "p" over it and use the left and right arrows to go through the file system
[22:56] <kokut> EriC^^: okay i found the deleted files!!
[22:56] <ikonia> jhon: try the ##java channel
[22:56] <Spuhghetti> thank you, reading now  :)
[22:56] <EriC^^> kokut: ok, press c to recover them
[22:57] <kokut> EriC^^: okay how do i test if they have been copied
[22:57] <EriC^^> kokut: it should say that they were copied in green i think
[22:58] <EriC^^> kokut: cd to where you copied them to
[22:59] <EriC^^> kokut: and sudo chown -R ubuntu: /path/to/files
[22:59]  * sloantothebone enjoyed giving windows 7 a slow death with ubuntu live USB
[22:59] <EriC^^> then view them in nautilus if you want
[23:00] <basil1x> Have they programmed it so windows screams its' frustration yet, sloantothebone ?
[23:01] <jarno> If your installing a server, do you always have to use the "Bare minimum install images" like for ubuntu or centos
[23:01] <sloantothebone> No not yet, but i guess i could use one of them file restoration utilities to look at the gore of the slaughter
[23:01] <kokut> EriC^^: im on the live cd
[23:01] <basil1x> heh
[23:01] <EriC^^> kokut: i know
[23:01] <sloantothebone> kokut are you ready to install?
[23:02] <basil1x> They should make the gparted scream as you annihilate each partition.
[23:02] <kokut> EriC^^: i cant see the partition where i have ubuntu installed, it was showing before, i clicked it and it said i didnt have permission to open it, now it doesnt show
[23:02] <sloantothebone> in cyberspace no one can hear you scream
[23:02] <EriC^^> kokut: no need to open that
[23:02] <EriC^^> kokut: the files are in the live usb's session right now
[23:03] <EriC^^> kokut: go to where you copied them
[23:03] <EriC^^> a directory should be there that's owned by root
[23:03] <kokut> EriC^^: aw man its 2.6mb ... that can't be right
[23:04] <Bashing-om> jareth_: taskel ? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel .
[23:04] <kokut> EriC^^: according to testdisk there are thousdand of deleted files.. man this is wrong..
[23:05] <EriC^^> kokut: they could be files that were deleted long ago
[23:05] <EriC^^> check the dates in testdisk
[23:05] <EriC^^> kokut: press "c" over the directory you want to recover, then select the destination and press "C"
[23:06] <kokut> EriC^^: okay, im still trying to find the folder i need to recover, it was encrypted tho, i thought i made a backup of all my home folder and i found it but it cant be 2.6mb....
[23:07] <EriC^^> kokut: are the files there?
[23:08] <OerHeks> uh oh, encrypted folder recovery, good luck!
[23:08] <EriC^^> use the right arrow in testdisk
[23:08] <kokut> EriC^^: any idea of where the deleted friles from my document folder could be?
[23:08] <OerHeks> deleted files from an encrypted home are long gone, as it should be.
[23:09] <EriC^^> kokut: they should be in my documents
[23:09] <EriC^^> OerHeks: he said he decrypted before backing it up, i think
[23:11] <pryorda> Hey Guys,
[23:11] <pryorda> I did dpkg_reconfigure landscape-common now sudo su - shows the system information
[23:11] <kokut> EriC^^: okay i found all the encrypted files
[23:12] <kokut> EriC^^: or what is left of them
[23:12] <EriC^^> kokut: ok
[23:13] <kokut> EriC^^: is there a way to decrypt those files?
[23:16] <EriC^^> kokut: try sudo encryptfs-recover-private
[23:16] <EriC^^> kokut: maybe, no idea
[23:17] <EriC^^> i got this in google: http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[23:17] <kokut> EriC^^: is there a way to copy a whole folder with deleted and not-deleted files inside of it?
[23:18] <kokut> in testdisk
[23:18] <EriC^^> kokut: yes, press "c" over the directory
[23:19] <kokut> EriC^^: if this work ill suck ur dick man
[23:19] <kokut> EriC^^: xD
[23:20] <kokut> EriC^^: this computer has only 0 bytes of disk space remaining... well
[23:20] <Strav> heh. Glad I'm not alone using testdisk atm. (just lost a nearly full 4tb raid 5 array)
[23:20] <pryorda> anyway to disable landscape-common on su -
[23:21] <akurilin> Is there a nice 2014 laptop you would recommend that'd work really well out of the box with Ubuntu
[23:21] <akurilin> ?
[23:21] <abdullah> hi
[23:21] <ikonia> any of the system76
[23:21] <dale_> I just installed mutt from the software center, where is the executable, I get an error, bash: /usr/local/bin/mutt: No such file or directory
[23:21] <ikonia> dale_: it's not in /usr/local
[23:21] <ikonia> dale_: why do you think it's in /usr/local ?
[23:22] <hujo> akurilin, thinkpads have worked well for me, they're sturdy too
[23:22] <dale_> I just typed mutt from home
[23:22] <kokut> EriC^^: Eric looks like my live cd run out of space, what can i do? i need to recover all the files, it says 40k files and rising are failing to copy...
[23:22] <akurilin> hujo: pretty hassle-free as far as driver support?
[23:22] <ikonia> dale_: echo $PATH
[23:22] <ikonia> should be in /usr/bin
[23:22] <EriC^^> kokut: you can try to mount the partition
[23:22] <EriC^^> kokut: then sudo testdisk
[23:23] <plt> Hello.
[23:23] <plt> Did the folkes that wrote ubuntu kill this libncurses5-dev:i386 (or lib32ncurses5-dev)
[23:24] <dale_> tried ./usr/bin/mutt not there
[23:24] <plt> 64 bit
[23:24] <ikonia> dale_: not ./usr
[23:24] <ikonia> dale_: /usr
[23:24] <hujo> akurilin, no issues so far. some include network cards requiring "non-free" firmware and I recall some issues with the models that had a nvidia optimus card on top of the built-in graphics
[23:24] <kokut> EriC^^: please help me man, what do i do? do i mount the partition? so far 70k files have failed to copy... man i need those files
[23:25] <EriC^^> kokut: exit testdisk, mount the partition
[23:25] <OerHeks> plt, no > http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/libncurses5-dev
[23:25] <dale_> thanks ikonia, that worked
[23:25] <hujo> dale_, try `which mutt`
[23:25] <plt> That is the I386?
[23:25] <OerHeks> sinkes please do not spam in PM, thanks
[23:26] <dale_> I get /usr/bin/mutt
[23:26] <MaxSendQ> this is a test
[23:26] <plt> What is missing here ld: cannot find -lfb
[23:26] <kokut> EriC^^: it wont quit with Q, its still trying to copy the files
[23:26] <hujo> perfect, now you know to query the path for installed binaries :)
[23:26] <EriC^^> kokut: ctrl+C
[23:26] <kokut> EriC^^: okay
[23:27] <plt> Does the amd64 have the I386?
[23:27] <MaxSendQ> i386 what
[23:27] <Bashing-om> plt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libncurses5-dev&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all .
[23:28] <hujo> akurilin, there also is a dedicated wiki for linux on thinkpads: thinkwiki.org
[23:28] <plt> I am trying to cross compile 64bit to 32 bit
[23:28] <plt> lfb not found
[23:29] <akurilin> hujo: yeah thinkpads look nice, expecially the x1, but the keyboard is an atrocity
[23:29] <plt> Take a look at this http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20154
[23:29] <akurilin> it's so odd that it's hard to find a simple laptop that has just a regular keyboard and none of the extra garbage nobody needs
[23:29] <kokut> EriC^^: how do i mount the partition
[23:29] <Multbrelch> Re all. Q: Is it possible to obtain via the terminal all window data (position, size, etc.) from any application (e.g., gimp, thunderbird, etc.)?
[23:29] <plt> If you look under this
[23:29] <plt> Re: Ubuntu 12.04 precise Pangolin that is the files I am looking for.
[23:29] <kokut> EriC^^: its sda1
[23:30] <hujo> akurilin, in general or on the x1? I ask because I type on a t420 right now and have always found the keyboard to be excellent
[23:30] <EriC^^> kokut: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:30]  * MaxSendQ sinkes querying spam
[23:30] <akurilin> specifically the x1, I'll check out your model
[23:30] <kokut> EriC^^: k done
[23:31] <kokut> EriC^^: what now?
[23:31] <kokut> EriC^^: i could copy the folder to another partition i use for backup... what do you think?
[23:31] <plt> Let me post the question here. This is a the files that I am looking for libncurses5-dev:i386 (or lib32ncurses5-dev), libxrandr-dev:i386, libxpm-dev:i386
[23:32] <squinty> plt: go here  http://packages.ubuntu.com/   search
[23:32] <EriC^^> kokut: sounds like a good idea
[23:32] <hujo> Multbrelch, perhaps a search for your window manager's documentation will help
[23:32] <EriC^^> kokut: mount the other partition and copy the directory there
[23:32] <kokut> EriC^^: okay will try
[23:32] <plt> I found this but it said nothing about the i386
[23:33] <kokut> EriC^^: where do i mount the second partition?
[23:33] <EriC^^> kokut: type sudo mkdir /backup
[23:33] <hujo> kokut, could you restate your problem, I missed the beginning?
[23:33] <kokut> EriC^^: mkdir /backup where?
[23:34] <EriC^^> kokut: it doesn't matter
[23:34] <EriC^^> it'll make it in "/"
[23:34] <kokut> hujo: im trying to recover a bunch of files that are more valuable than my life from my home folder that got deleted for no reason and they are also encrypted
[23:34] <EriC^^> then sudo mount /dev/sdxY /backup
[23:35] <hujo> kokut, mount read-only: mount -o ro
[23:35] <hujo> kokut, if you want to mount at all
[23:35] <pryorda> Anyone see my message
[23:35] <squinty> plt: 14.04 here  aptitude search libncurses5-dev
[23:35] <squinty> p   libncurses5-dev                 - developer's libraries for ncurses         libncurses5-dev:i386  - developer's libraries for ncurses
[23:35] <hujo> kokut, is your drive damaged? or is it fine, but the files just got deleted?
[23:35] <kokut> EriC^^: Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[23:35] <MaxSendQ> test
[23:36] <EriC^^> kokut: did you mount it already in nautilus?
[23:36] <kokut> hujo: the drive is fine, the files got magically deleted
[23:36] <kokut> EriC^^: yea
[23:36] <EriC^^> kokut: ok, so it should be in /media/ubuntu/<something here>
[23:36] <kokut> EriC^^: okay i fixed it
[23:36] <kokut> EriC^^: now its mounted in /backup
[23:36] <kokut> EriC^^: gonna try with testdisk again
[23:36] <Bashing-om> plt: I do: sudo apt-get -s install libncurses5-dev:i386 >> The following extra packages will be installed:. Seems they are available in 14.04 repository .
[23:37] <hujo> kokut, ok before mounting anything - if the files are so important to you - I'd create a backup first, just in case you mess something up
[23:37] <EriC^^> kokut: ok, umount /mnt
[23:37] <EriC^^> kokut: try sudo umount /mnt
[23:37] <EriC^^> then sudo testdisk
[23:37] <Kris545545> Can GParted recover lot partitions?
[23:37] <Kris545545> Lost *
[23:37] <EriC^^> Kris545545: technically no
[23:37] <EriC^^> or yes
[23:37] <EriC^^> i guess
[23:37] <EriC^^> Kris545545: testdisk is a recovery program
[23:38] <hujo> Kris545545, checkout: https://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_2.html
[23:39] <kokut> EriC^^: okay it started copying the files, then i will need to decrypt them, i have the passphrase / password
[23:39] <hujo> Kris545545, the mentioned testdisk is further documented at: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[23:40] <EriC^^> kokut: ok
[23:40] <kokut> EriC^^: it will take a lot of time, probably more than 100k files and its copying really slow, 100/sec :/
[23:41] <EriC^^> kokut: ok, follow that guide
[23:42] <kokut> EriC^^: and now it got stuck at one file for 40 sec... this is going to take a while...
[23:42] <kokut> EriC^^ & hujo its okay i just need help to decrypt them after the copy
[23:44] <hujo> kokut, and what kind of encryption is it? the standard ubuntu one?
[23:45] <kokut> hujo: i think so, i encrypted my home folder at ubuntu installation, big mistake, i will save that only for when i need to handle specially confidential data in the future.
[23:46] <hujo> hujo, alright, then the software being used is ecryptfs and the best place to start would be http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/en/man7/ecryptfs.7.html
[23:46] <kokut> hujo: i lost a bunch of login information and important filesfrom work
[23:46] <hujo> kokut, darn it - that message was for you ;)
[23:47] <kokut> hujo: it ok, the files will be copying for hours im afraid, didnt know testdisk file copy between partitions was so slow
[23:47] <hujo> kokut, then it's the best opportunity to invest some time in version control
[23:48] <kokut> hujo: what do you mean version control?
[23:48] <teaearlgraycold> kokut, github svn
[23:48] <teaearlgraycold> that kind of stuff
[23:49] <hujo> kokut, yes - git or subversion for example. if you deal with a lot of binary instead of text-based files, there are solutions for that as well
[23:49] <hujo> kokut, you would not only have a history but the ability to store your files remotely
[23:50] <kokut> hujo: seems like a good idea, but i would be storing confidential login information from various crucial resources from work... that cannot fall into the wrong hands or i lose my job
[23:51] <kokut> hujo: that is supposing i manage to get them back in the first place...
[23:51] <hujo> kokut, you're always free to encrypt them on top if you like
[23:51] <pryorda> anyway to disable landscape-common on su -
[23:52] <plt> What lib file is missing here ld: cannot find -lfb
[23:54] <hujo> plt, freebasic?
[23:54] <plt> Yep
[23:54] <plt> aptitude search lfb nothing was found.
[23:55] <hujo> plt, and if you search for freebasic instead?
[23:56] <kokut> Im going to read my book until testdisk finishes copying the files, be back later.
[23:57] <plt> I already have freebasic installed
[23:58] <hujo> plt, and the -dev packages too?
[23:58] <akurilin> What's the current most popular tool for full-disk encryption in ubuntu trusty and later?
[23:58] <akurilin> I've run into a lot of various pages and them seem to recommend a variety of tools
[23:59] <squinty> plt: googling "freebasic lfb"  returns quite a few hits