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koellI never thought xubuntu is so much slower than lubuntu.02:15
XF-erkoell, i agree.02:28
koellXF-er: i like the style and the magenta colors :3 but moving around windows feels so much slower. i dont know if i can tweak something and get rid of effects02:31
XF-erkoell, oh sorry i must have misunderstood you. if you're saying xubuntu is much slower than lubuntu, that's not my experience.02:34
XF-erkoell, xubuntu doesn't really have much in terms of effects. it's window manager xfwm4 is really lightweight02:35
XF-erkoell, how old is your system?02:36
koellXF-er: CPU~Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (-MCP-) clocked at 1800 Mhz Kernel~3.16.0-23-generic x86_64 Up~13:39 Mem~917.8/1874.2MB HDD~330.1GB(79.5% used) Procs~183 Client~Shell inxi~2.1.2802:37
XF-erthat should be more than enough, even on my netbook (intel atom 1.6mhz with 1gig ram) xubuntu was pretty snappy02:38
koellyou may dont see a difference if you never used lubuntu :P02:38
XF-eri noticed a slight difference in terms of RAM footprint, lubuntu was a tad lighter but as far as using it it was pretty similar02:39
XF-erkoell, i used lubuntu specifically for about a month, and have tried lxde on other distros as well.02:39
koellfor example, if i move a window around, it follows a few ms behind the mouse. thats what i mean with laggy. is this how it should behave?02:39
XF-erkoell, only when i've used xubuntu with an Nvidia card have i experienced that.02:40
XF-ertwo of my systems are all intel and i have no lag at all. super snappy02:41
XF-erkoell, inxi -G?02:41
koellmaybe my system is just too old for xubuntu02:41
koellXF-er: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8893071/02:42
XF-eryeah not sure, i would think you system should handle xubuntu just fine.02:45
koelli guess it is hard work for my gpu to handle 2 screens maybe02:45
XF-erkoell, you got dual monitors going huh? i had a number of issues setting up dual monitors with xfce before, it doesn't have the best support for that yet (xfce 4.12 should be better) but cursor latency was never a problem.02:46
XF-erxubuntu is not the lightest xfce distro around, works fine for me though. Manjaro seemed a little faster all around but i prefer a debian based distro02:48
koellimg going to try it on a new pc, hope i get a better performance then..02:49
XF-erif you're still shopping i've got all intel hardware and xubuntu runs like butter on my machines, i always upgrade RAM to 4gigs or 6gigs but it ran fine on 2gigs for most things.02:50
koellXF-er: i just moved firefox across the screens, it lags at least half a second behind :D02:52
koellnot saying it is a big issues, but it feels just slow xD02:53
koellXF-er: weird thing is, if i try to play music with gmusic it says i've to install gstreamer O_o i though xubuntu comes by default with the ability to play music02:58
koellanyway i like the wallpapers :302:58
mupcakes.04:11
xubuntu16wJust fresh installed xubuntu 14.10 on my desktop and I'm having quite a few issues. First off, it's seems as though the window manager is freezing. I'm not getting any errors, but I'm unable to move windows or click on anyhting besides what's inside of firefox atm.04:31
holsteinxubuntu16w: in that case, i would first just apply updates and try again.. if you cant in the GUI, you can switch to TTY, and use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:32
holstein!tty04:32
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution04:32
holsteinif that doesnt work, i would look into alternate, proprietary graphics drivers..04:33
xubuntu16wdid both through tty1 earlier and managed to install flrgfx too04:34
holsteinif that doesnt work, i personally will try different kernel versions via live CD's.. if the hardware doesnt promise linux support, then it can take a bit of trial and error to get acceptable performance.. or, maybe just compromise04:34
holsteinxubuntu16w: so, you are saying, you are completely up to date with upgrades, then? and have rebooted into the most recent kernel? and have installed a proprietary driver?04:35
holsteinyou ran "sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle" in the tty terminal?04:36
xubuntu16wyup. i restarted xfwm just now and its working somewhat better04:37
xubuntu16wjust restarted it that is04:37
holsteinxubuntu16w: you shouldnt need to restart xfwm..04:37
holsteinxubuntu16w: regardless, i would start simple.. ram and hard drive test.. see if live CD's run on the hardware on not, and if so, what kernel and driver modules are running..04:38
xubuntu16whow do I tell which ones I'm using?04:38
holsteini use lspci -v or whatever GUI tool i want04:39
holsteinuname -a in a terminal will tell the kernel version http://askubuntu.com/questions/2884/how-can-i-determine-the-version-of-the-running-kernel04:39
holsteinlshw -c video as in http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system04:40
xubuntu16wdump from uname -a:04:42
xubuntu16wLinux brandon-desktop 3.16.0-24-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:07:32 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux04:42
holsteinxubuntu16w: im saying, i would run *many* live CD's, and do, when im learning about new hardware, and *if* any were supported well by the hardware, i would run those commands and take a note of what is working well with it04:43
holsteinxubuntu16w: it can be challenging, when you are not given linux support from the manufacturer04:44
xubuntu16wahhh, thanks. ill try other live cds then04:44
holsteinxubuntu16w: i would try 14.04, and even 12.04..04:44
QuixxHow can I tell if I'm using hardware acceleration for my desktop?05:09
QuixxI've got an old GMA x3100 and I'm trying to run two monitors from it, sometimes it's alright and sometimes it's quite slow05:09
holsteinQuixx: whats "quite slow" ?05:09
QuixxSwitching between tabs in firefox is taking about a full second05:10
holsteinanyways, there are no alternative drivers, really.. no proprietary drivers to try05:10
holsteincould be *anything*, like flash, or just an old box05:10
holstein!info glxgears05:11
ubottuPackage glxgears does not exist in utopic05:11
Quixxwith compositing on, it's slightly faster when it's off, but sometimes it'll work faster than both05:11
QuixxI also don't have anything but 'normal' web pages open right now, no flash running05:11
holstein!info mesa-utils05:11
ubottumesa-utils (source: mesa-demos): Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.2.0-1 (utopic), package size 28 kB, installed size 119 kB05:11
QuixxI've got to run a VM on this as well and it just seems like sometimes xorg just eats more CPU than it should05:11
holsteinQuixx: i install mesa-utils and run glxgears.. but, 3d support doesnt = "happiness"05:12
QuixxI don't need 3d support, just a desktop that doesn't lag05:12
holsteinQuixx: sure, i understand that.. im just saying, 3d support doesnt mean that you have the 'best' configuration for the lack of lag you seem to by saying you wish you had05:12
QuixxSo in that case do I need to get 3d support working or something else?05:13
holsteinlike, if you test, and you *dont* have 3d support, or *do*, that really only means that.. just 3d support05:13
QuixxOk? I never mentioned 3d support, just drivers05:13
holsteinQuixx: you meantion hardware acceleration for the desktop05:13
holsteinQuixx: that *is* 3d driver support, correct/ that is what you are asking?05:14
QuixxSo wouldn't that be 2d? In windows I think it would be called '2d'05:14
holsteini dont use windows05:14
QuixxI don't know if there is different terminology for linucks05:14
QuixxBut traditionally 2d would be desktop applications05:14
Quixx3d would be 'games', or something that is rendering 3d.05:14
holsteinQuixx: regardless, you can use the tool i suggested to see if you have "hardware acceleration on the desktop". but, the answer to that doesnt mean you will get less lag05:15
holsteinQuixx: to address the lag, i would start at the beginning, and test hardware.. heat can really make machines slow down like that.. i would try live CD's to remove the current installed operating system from the euquation05:16
QuixxWhat's the application that checks clock speed?05:16
holsteini would try and *not* use firefox as a gauge.. since you can be using flash that is quite old there, and experiencing lag there05:16
QuixxSince this is a laptop it might not be running the right clocks05:16
holsteinQuixx: what clock, friend? the cpu?05:16
QuixxCPU05:17
QuixxGPU is linked to the NB and junk05:17
Quixxand CPU is what is getting pegged05:17
holsteinto the MB? the motherboard? like integrated GPU?05:17
QuixxAlso firefox is just an example, text input in xchat is also lagging just a bit05:17
QuixxNB, northbridge05:17
Quixxyou know, back in the day when the memory controller wasn't on the CPU05:17
Quixxintel would throw the IGP on there as well05:17
holsteinQuixx: i think you will want "lscpu" in the terminal.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/218567/any-way-to-check-the-clock-speed-of-my-processor05:19
QuixxYup it's running at 800mhz instead of 250005:20
holsteinon older hardware like that, i would test the ram, and the hard drive.. and the the fans, and hardare as much as i can in the bios.. or with live CD's05:20
QuixxWell, it was working fine before I updated xubuntu05:20
QuixxI did a reinstall to go from 13.10 to 14.1005:21
holsteinQuixx: i would install 14.04, on that hardware, and *stay* on it..05:21
holstein!lts05:21
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)05:21
QuixxI need to find out why it's not running the CPU at full tilt... I believe I tried 14.10 on another laptop and didn't like it, but it was also very early in the release05:21
holsteinQuixx: 14.04*05:22
QuixxThis laptop might be old but it's not that low on power, when everything is working right.05:22
Quixxyes 14.0405:22
holsteinQuixx: 14.04 is the LTS.. thats what i suggest you use05:22
holsteinQuixx: i didnt say, or imply that its low on power.. but, its not supporting the linux kernel you are using.. could be you will have much bettter luck right out of the box, with 14.04.. try it live, and see05:23
holsteinthere are CPU scaling settings that can make you read 800.. there are settings in the bios..05:23
holsteini *really* dont think that is the issue you are experiencing.. if this is a fresh install of stock xubuntu 14.1005:24
QuixxCPU is ~40c, no problem there05:25
holsteinQuixx: cool.. enjoy the hunt.. im off. you can use #ubuntu since this is general hardware support, and not specific to xubuntu or xfce.. cheers!05:27
holsteini say, the "easy way", try the 14.04 live iso.. if it works well, use that..05:27
QuixxI just did two installs yesterday and I've got everything set up05:27
QuixxI'm not doing another install without a fight05:28
slinkPjust reinstalled xubuntu 14.04  on a macbook, dual-boot w/ osx,  full-disk encryption on the xubuntu root partition... and booting puts me into busybox after i give the volume passphrase.  Any suggestions?06:51
slinkPif i reboot with my usb install drive, i can mount the encrypted volume without trouble.06:52
xubuntu84whello??07:01
xubuntu39whow to install xubuntu from the mirror downloads listed on the site . I tried to flash the iso image to a usb drive using universal usb installer but the uui says configuration file missing08:58
Bonsai|Guys: http://xubuntu.org/news/laptop-users-fix-available-for-the-black-screen-on-unlock-bug/11:19
Bonsai|= NOT FIXED11:19
Bonsai|xubuntu/ubuntu teams keep reporting this issue as resolved but its not heh..11:20
Bonsai|Fresh install,, doesn't matter.11:20
Bonsai|https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/130373611:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 1303736 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [High,Fix released]11:22
Bonsai|People are still reporting this bug.11:22
brainwashBonsai|: what if the bug is actually fixed, but people just experience a similar bug?11:27
Bonsai|brainwash, You tell me.11:28
brainwashit at least easy to apply one of the several workarounds11:29
Bonsai|I close my lid. I open it. Black screen. Only workaround that works is the xrandr --auto fix.11:29
brainwashyou open it and you don't see the unlock screen?11:30
brainwashif this is the case, then it's a different bug11:30
Bonsai|I talked to 2 other people having this problem. We are all on thinkpad x220's.11:30
brainwashright, it seems to be a problem which is specific to thinpads11:31
brainwashbug 138741311:31
ubottubug 1387413 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138741311:31
brainwash"This is on a Thinkpad x220."11:32
Bonsai|This is one of the guys I was talking to about the issue. ubuntu devs were arguing with him that it is not a separate issue and didn't want thim to create that bug report.11:33
Bonsai|:/11:33
Bonsai|I don't know.11:34
brainwashyou could just stop using light-locker and install xscreensaver or some other screen locker11:34
Bonsai|The problem is power manager not light locker11:34
Bonsai|I believe*11:35
brainwashthe report is not filed against the power manager11:35
Bonsai|Or,, that's where we left off, when we were troubleshooting it.11:35
Bonsai|Some of the known issues include:11:35
Bonsai|Xfce4 Power Manager does not restore screen power (1259339), see the release notes for details and workarounds11:35
brainwashsadly not clue, personally I don't use the power manger, or light-locker, or a thinkpad :)11:36
Bonsai|@ http://xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/11:36
Bonsai|Yea, this is a pain.11:37
Bonsai|Annoying bug.11:37
xubuntu330ciao11:37
Bonsai|brainwash, I appreciate your input.11:37
brainwashBonsai|: I suggest that you add all your findings to the follow up report which I linked some minutes ago11:38
* Bonsai| sighs11:38
Bonsai|I'd be a bit surprised if this is in fact a platform dependent bug, thinkpads are probably among the most used pc's  by dev's.11:40
Bonsai|Yo no se11:40
brainwashin this case I would guess that some of the thinkpad users should be able to debug this problem :)11:42
HippieHey, I just installed xubuntu - it was working, then I installed updates and restarted but now my laptop screens just black11:42
Bonsai|Lol ^11:42
brainwash:D11:42
Bonsai|Sorry.11:42
Hippienothing at all, not even bios stuff. just black11:42
brainwashnot even bios status messages?11:43
Hippienope11:43
Bonsai|That's scary.11:43
brainwashyou can't even enter the bios config screen?11:43
Hippienope. black screen11:43
Hippie:/11:43
brainwashoh, the dark side11:44
Hippiemust be laptop11:44
brainwashthat sounds really odd11:45
brainwashdid you already ask google?11:45
Bonsai|Hippie, Do you see a hint of backlight? That sounds like hardware failure if you can't even get to bios.11:45
Hippieno backlight, but the power light shows on and i can hear the laptop is on11:45
Hippieyeah I thought its hardware too11:46
Bonsai|Hippie, An old hp I had, had that issue. Took it apart,, monitor ribbin cable was damaged and loose. I was able to "mend" the issue.11:46
Bonsai|ribbon11:46
Bonsai|even11:46
Hippiei tried plugging in extetrnal screen, no luck11:47
Hippiei think the ssd or RAM crashed11:47
Hippienew chineses cheap laptop lol11:47
Bonsai|1st step in the International IT troubleshooting guide: Smack it with an open hand.11:47
Bonsai|:)11:47
Bonsai|You should get to the bios even without the drive.11:48
Hippieah true11:48
Hippie;'(11:50
QuixxSo xorg is using ~70% CPU when I'm idling on my desktop with a few inactive windows open11:50
Bonsai|Hippie, If it's currently a paperweight and you can't return it, I'd pull it apart and check the monitors ribbon cable etc.11:52
Bonsai|When you boot it,, and kit all the f keys does it beep or anything?11:52
Bonsai|s/kit/hit/11:52
Quixx[  1535.931] (EE) intel(0): Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration.11:53
Quixx[  1535.931] (EE) intel(0): When reporting this, please include /sys/class/drm/card0/error and the full dmesg.11:53
QuixxUh11:53
QuixxThat sounds like a problem11:53
brainwashQuixx: I recommend asking in #intel-gfx12:02
QuixxJust joined there actually12:02
brainwashgreat :)12:02
HippieBonsai|: yeah I messaged the supplier, if i cant return then i will12:02
Hippieno it doesnt make any sounds either :?12:03
Quixxand it won't let me send12:03
ali1234Quixx: register with nickserv12:04
Quixxhate this register BS just to post12:04
Quixxoh, and while I'm here, how do I change the threshold of where the cursor is in relation to window boarders in order to change the window size?12:07
QuixxLike, right now it's one or two pixels and I have to be really accurate to get the resize window cursor12:07
brainwashyou cannot as of now, but you can use a theme with thicker borders12:09
brainwashalso http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/12:09
parkerd14.10 is installed.  Somehow I have delected the printer configuration option from the desktop settings window.  Any ideas how to restore 14.10 to a default configuration so I can start over?12:19
wilfriedhello12:52
wilfriedafter installing opensource driver (r600) performance is still low why?12:55
brainwashwilfried: how to test the performance? or do you mean the overall desktop performance?13:01
brainwashhow do you13:01
wilfriedthe desktop performance is fine, but everything flashplayer related is not good, like watching yt videos online13:02
wilfrieddirect rendering = yes13:02
brainwashare you sure that the flash player is being used to play videos on youtube?13:02
brainwashit could be the html5 player instead13:03
brainwashwhich is the new default player13:03
wilfriedit is on every site that uses flash player13:04
wilfriedchrome browser is also slow, cause it crashes with hardware acceleration on13:05
brainwashin firefox, right? maybe you should give chrome/ium a try13:05
brainwashthat's bad13:05
wilfriedthats why im asking13:06
wilfriednever had this kind of problem with the opensource driver13:06
wilfried*before13:06
brainwashworks fine here, it's even a low end system13:08
brainwashyou can try and ask in #radeon13:09
brainwashwilfried: any reason why you had to install the radeon driver? it's usually installed and enabled by default13:12
wilfriedjust installed a newer version13:13
wilfriedby adding ppa13:13
brainwashI see13:13
brainwashwilfried: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1wpavp/how_to_enable_vdpau_acceleration_for_accelerated/13:14
brainwashworth a try13:14
wilfriedlol im already searching on that vdpau13:15
wilfriednice thanks13:15
brainwash:)13:15
wilfriedfollowing this guide it is nearly acceptable so i will stay with this settings thanks again to bw and every reader ;)13:25
brainwashawesome13:25
AirbanderHi guys14:47
Airbanderif any one want change booting logo just get in /lib/plymouth/theme14:47
Airbanderthemes*14:47
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AirbanderHi guys16:28
Airbanderhow read image in terminal console16:28
Alexfrenchwhatkind of image ? a jpeg16:31
Airbanderany type if that possible16:33
knomeAirbander, i still don't understand why you need to overcomplicate things by using terminal to open all apps16:34
AirbanderKnome you follow me very nice i love that16:35
Airbanderi'm new in linux i want understand the most possible of command line16:35
knomeAirbander, that's not the way to learn it though16:35
knomeAirbander, and launching apps from command line doesn't mean you know how to use the command line, you'll only learn the application names16:35
Airbanderah16:36
Airbanderok16:37
knomeAirbander, if you are new to linux, learn how to use the desktop first16:38
Airbanderi look over internet i didnt find something good just noob command to navigate16:38
knomeAirbander, i haven't seen you have any situation where you actually need the command line, you have just been complicating things for yourself16:38
Airbanderbecause i didnt find some one who teatche me16:39
Airbanderevery one send me a linke16:39
Airbander link *16:39
Airbanderand read it lol16:39
knomeAirbander, but that's not how you learn.16:39
Airbanderdo you have any advice ?16:39
knomeAirbander, use the desktop, don't try to learn the command line16:40
Airbanderok desktop16:40
knomeAirbander, if you want to open an image, navigate to the directory with the images in the graphical user interface and open it with double-clicking16:40
Airbanderwhat is the special about it ?16:40
elfyand when you NEED the command line - learn what you need rather than trying to learn all16:40
knomeAirbander, it's easier to use than desktop16:40
AirbanderHi elfy16:40
knomeerr, than command line..16:41
Airbanderdo you know i was windows user16:41
Airbanderi know exactly how desktop work :D16:41
Airbanderwait a s plz16:41
elfyyou know exactly how windows works - and you didn't immediately know that one either ;)16:42
knomeAirbander, but you don't learn by asking "how do i do this" and then somebody telling you the exact command to do that... you'll just memorize command to do specific things, not learn things16:42
Airbanderelfy i know how open images lol16:42
Airbanderyou have right knomw16:42
Airbanderknome16:43
Airbanderhow do you think i'm talking to you in xchat ?16:43
knomeAirbander, i understand the command line and know how to open images from the command line - but i open them from the GUI because it's easier to do that and doesn't overcomplicate things.16:44
Airbanderomg elfy go to your donjon16:44
Airbanderyes knome16:44
Airbanderi know thunar16:44
Airbanderwhy i asked this question16:44
knomeAirbander, so please understand that we do not specifically want to "teach" people complicated ways to do things16:44
knomeno, it makes no sense.16:44
Airbanderok i understand16:45
Airbanderif you are runing a server there is no interface16:45
knomeAirbander, but you're not; you're running xubuntu16:45
Airbanderhow you will open a image ?16:45
Airbanderlol16:45
knomeand if you are running a server, you don't open images in a GUI.16:45
knomeAirbander, and please do not tell anybody to go anywhere, that's an unwanted attitude here16:46
Airbanderok i have serious question16:46
Airbanderok i'm sorry16:46
Airbanderhow upgrade my graphic's cart ?16:47
Airbanderwhen i start flash game they lag for me but in windows they dont16:47
Airbandercan solve this one ? plz16:48
knomeit would help if you started telling which graphics card you are using16:48
Airbanderok wait16:49
Airbanderplz16:49
knomeyes, but please do not use enter as punctuation, we can read longer lines too..16:49
Airbandersorry about that16:55
Airbanderi didnt know how to get the full name16:58
AirbanderVGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller16:58
Airbanderi hope this help16:58
Airbanderi used software & updates for additional drivers : No additional drivers available16:59
Airbander00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])17:00
AirbanderSubsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device fd3017:00
AirbanderFlags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 4417:00
AirbanderMemory at d0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]17:00
AirbanderMemory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]17:00
AirbanderI/O ports at 8050 [size=8]17:01
AirbanderExpansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]17:01
AirbanderCapabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-17:01
AirbanderCapabilities: [d0] Power Management version 217:01
AirbanderCapabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features17:01
AirbanderKernel driver in use: i91517:01
Airbanderthis is it17:01
Airbandercan this help ? and sorry for waisting your time17:01
knome!pastebin | Airbander17:01
ubottuAirbander: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:01
knomeAirbander, for the future...17:02
Airbandersorry ubottu17:02
Airbanderi didnt know that17:02
knomethat's ok; now you do17:02
Airbanderyep17:02
Airbanderknome ?17:05
Airbanderany help plz17:05
Airbanderbrb.17:09
knomeAirbander, i have other things to do now; you can wait for the answer or look for the answer somewhere else while you wait17:09
Airbanderok17:10
Airbandertake your time and good luck17:10
knomeif somebody knows how to help you, they most likely will17:10
Airbanderfor what you are doing17:10
Airbanderyep i know they always do17:10
knome(and don't necessarily wait/expect that it's me who eventually will help you)17:10
Airbanderya ya17:10
holsteinAirbander: to "upgrade your graphics card" you have to replace the hardware17:11
Airbanderdon't worry17:11
Airbanderholstein sorry you want me to change it ?17:11
holsteinAirbander: i would try the most current version of flash for linux, which is only made available to the chrome browser, and can be used with chrome or chromium only17:11
holsteinAirbander: i dont want anything for you, friend.. if you want to upgrade your grahpics card, you do that by replacing the device17:11
Airbanderok ok17:12
Airbanderthanks17:12
holsteinAirbander: you cant upgrade/improve the device with software in *any* operating system17:12
Airbanderproblem solved17:12
holsteinAirbander: are you using the most recent flash in linux provided to chrome?17:12
Airbanderyes17:12
holsteinhttp://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/17:12
Airbanderwhat is the best graphic cart for linux ?17:13
holsteinAirbander: "best" is always a matter of opinion and use case17:13
Airbanderforget about games17:14
holsteinAirbander: the "best" would be to purchase with linux support in mind.. by asking the vendors if they support linux17:14
Airbanderok17:14
holsteinAirbander: linux and ubuntu/xubuntu are all open, so anyone can easily and freely support it17:14
knomeintel works well with linux usually nvidia isn't bad either, but you might need to use closed source drivers with them17:15
holsteinAirbander: system76 for example is a great reseller in that regard.. selling systems made with linux support in mind, and guarnateed.. and included17:15
Airbanderthanks guys for the help i hope one day come like you mastering linux17:15
Airbanderok17:15
holsteinAirbander: i never said, nor implied that i have mastered linux, in any way17:15
Airbanderi know you didnt say it17:16
holsteinAirbander: cool.. no need to put words in my mouth, then.. how else can i assist you?17:16
Airbanderlol17:17
Airbanderfor now nothing thanks17:17
Airbanderthanks alot17:17
Airbanderi'm hungry i need to go eat, but i will back.17:17
AirbanderBrb17:18
andrej_ Trying to install(reinstall) msttcorefonts with Synaptic and in Terminal. But install not work Say:  Download Error  Sourceforge19:01
TheBigDealHello19:04
TheBigDealhow can i assign a shortcut to change the language in 14.10?19:05
=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
koellXF-er: i tried on my laptop today and everything is fast :)23:02
koellI just hate, how freakin hard it is in xubuntu to change the window decoration. :(23:30
knomekoell, please watch your language, this is a family friendly channel23:30
knomekoell, also, have you read the documentation? it guides you through the exact steps you need to do that..23:31
koellknome: sorry, but i dont find any application preinstalled which can change the gtk theme or whatever it is called23:31
knomekoell, have you looked in the documentation+23:31
Unit193Settings Manager => Window Manager...23:31
koellUnit193: the first entry is the default theme?23:32

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