[04:17] <apachelogger> yofel: do you have a script to delete old uploads from the neon ppa? people are getting confused by the fact that the repo has packages for ancient releases
[04:21] <apachelogger> wgrant: groovy thanks. all builds back to normal speed it seems :)
[05:05] <Mirv> is someone looking at the karchive build failure? I'm just thinking about my Qt 5.3.2 landing, and currently it also has unfilled dependencies because of that.
[05:23] <apachelogger> Mirv: retried all of them, that should fix it
[05:30] <Mirv> apachelogger: thanks! that should unblock something like kdoctools -> kio -> frameworkintegration/plasma-framework
[05:53] <yofel> apachelogger: klearppa from kubuntu-dev-tools does mass deleting of packages
[05:54] <apachelogger> I am too scared to run that :P
[06:27] <Mirv> apachelogger: same problem with kjs... I'm restarting those builds
[06:28] <Mirv> I guess missing strict enough build deps in both
[06:28] <apachelogger> Mirv: probably all of frameworks
[06:51] <bukai> Hi, I need a twitter widget for the https://twitter.com/kubuntu . Can anyone help me out with the same ?
[07:02] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[07:34] <MangaKaDenza> hi, I'm on Trusty, and was subscribed to neon/kf5, but for some reason that ppa gives me an "Index not found" error, has it been removed?
[07:37] <apachelogger> upgrade to 14.10 and use ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable instead
[07:38] <MangaKaDenza> will that keep all the Plasma 5 and KDE Applications 5 in /opt?
[07:39] <MangaKaDenza> because, while it is somewhat stable, I prefer SC 4 for my main DE
[07:39] <apachelogger> no
[07:40] <MangaKaDenza> :c
[07:40] <MangaKaDenza> so it's either fully go 5 or stay at 4 until it stablizes for me?
[07:42] <apachelogger> you could always install 5 in a VM and use that
[07:42] <apachelogger> or well, you know, install 14.10 next to 14.10
[07:42] <apachelogger> *next to 14.04
[07:43] <MangaKaDenza> erm... why was the Project Neon KF5 repo removed in the first place?
[07:43] <apachelogger> becuase we are not maintaing it anymore
[07:44] <MangaKaDenza> ah
[07:44] <MangaKaDenza> :c
[09:23] <Mirv> ok I've gotten also kdoctools building which should unblock my Qt PPA rebuilds afterwards :)
[09:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <bukai> lordievader: Can you please tell me who maintains the twitter account for kubuntu?
[09:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell probably
[09:59] <lordievader> ^
[10:00] <lordievader> There might be others with the ability to twit though.
[10:01] <bukai> shadeslayer, Riddel is not online now I guess, anyone else has the access?
[10:01] <shadeslayer> Not really 
[10:06] <apachelogger> lordievader called Riddell a twit and the internet saw it :O
[10:06] <lordievader> O.O
[10:07] <lordievader> Now you did too :P
[10:07] <bukai> :)
[10:17] <Mirv> Riddell: so FYI I'm fixing several of "package ECM too low version" kind of errors by kicking rebuilds.
[10:17] <Mirv> it turned out I need kio too, which needs attica, which has failed to build... kicking again
[10:18] <Mirv> although now I start to think Qt 5.3.2 would be not today, maybe tomorrow. I still need some acks for the -gles twin packages.
[10:35] <valorie> apachelogger: I'm fixing the community page, and I'm wondering if we still should point people to files.kde.org ?
[10:35] <valorie> and if so, which one, since the linked image is i386
[10:36] <apachelogger> files.kde presently only has i386 images
[10:36] <apachelogger> valorie: files.kde makes more sense from a git-testing pov
[10:36] <valorie> ok
[10:36] <apachelogger> from an I just want plasma5 we probably should point to the tech preview iso
[10:36] <valorie> I'll leave that bit then
[10:37] <valorie> no ppa/next ?
[10:37] <valorie> that is the current advice there
[10:37] <apachelogger> same thing
[10:37] <valorie> ok
[10:37] <valorie> excellent then
[10:38] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu - please see if this is correct
[10:39] <apachelogger> looks good
[10:40] <valorie> excellent
[10:42]  * valorie goes to bed
[11:33] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ping
[11:36] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: pong
[11:41] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: can I help you?
[11:43] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: I have almost finished the design for the index page of test.kubuntu.co.uk, I wanted to add twitter live feed to the page
[11:44] <ovidiu-florin> great
[11:44] <bukai> but for that i need access to the twitter page or i need someone to create a widget 
[11:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: hass acces to the Twitter parge AFAIK
[11:46] <bukai> ok, btw should i include 2 widget in the site? one for posting to @kubuntu and the other for #kubuntu or just 1?
[11:46] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ^
[11:52] <lordievader> bukai: Err, don't you just need a username for such a widget?
[11:53] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: agregate them
[11:53] <bukai> lordievader:  yes and for that i need Riddell
[11:53] <ovidiu-florin> to get the username?
[11:53] <lordievader> bukai: It's public info..
[11:53] <ovidiu-florin> you don't need access to the account in oorder to make a live feed
[11:54] <lordievader> bukai: https://twitter.com/kubuntu Should have everything you need.
[11:54] <bukai> no we need to login as they no more access data using restful api
[11:54] <bukai> lordievader: no I tried.
[11:55] <bukai> lordievader: And you get the code too as you create the widget.
[11:57] <lordievader> bukai: Here you go: http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/kubu-twit.html
[12:02] <bukai> lordievader: using this you can post to kubuntu
[12:02] <lordievader> It was just an example...
[12:04] <bukai> ok, I will try to get the #kubuntu posts by the users, thanks.
[12:05] <lordievader> Hmm, the widget options don't allow disableing the reply to thing.
[12:43] <Riddell> morning
[12:44] <Riddell> hi bukai 
[12:54] <bukai> Hi, Riddell I am almost done with the dessign of the first page
[12:54] <Riddell> bukai: fabulous!
[12:55] <bukai> I had a few doublts about the layout of the tweets
[13:20] <Riddell> bukai: do you need the twitter account details?
[13:25] <bukai> No that I managed without it, Give me 5 mins i will show you the problem.
[13:25] <bukai> Riddell: ^
[13:27] <Riddell> k
[13:30] <sgclark> morning
[13:33] <Riddell> hola sgclark 
[13:39] <bukai> Riddell: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=312e4jl&s=8#.VGC_d_mUfXo is it looking to clumsy? Is there any better way I can out it and I do not know how to create a similar thing for fb so what do i put in the todo space?
[13:39] <bukai> *put it not out it :P
[13:44] <Riddell> bukai: looks good
[13:46] <bukai> but what do I put in the last place?
[13:47] <Riddell> bukai: you can make a facebook one, you need to setup an application thingy
[13:47] <Riddell> https://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/activity
[13:47] <Riddell> that's it I think
[13:48] <bukai> let me check it out , thanks
[13:51] <Riddell> bukai: I just made you a page admin of the facebook kubuntu page
[13:51] <Riddell> I suspect you'll need that
[13:55] <bukai> Riddell: I was about to ask you for the same :)
[13:58]  * bukai leaves for dinner
[14:05] <Riddell> thanks Mirv, we have a retry script that I've just run now to give them all another shot
[14:11] <mhall119> sgclark: can we move http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22363/community-1411-showoff-kubuntu-plasma-/ to the Users track?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: one of my fellow orchrestra players ( idk the word for `people who you play the orchrestra with`) uses Kubuntu
[14:12] <shadeslayer> *in the orchrestra
[14:12] <mhall119> co-orchestrators?
[14:12] <Riddell> "musicians"?
[14:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: he thinks it's awesome
[14:12] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: excellent :)
[14:12] <shadeslayer> I won't call them musicians tbh :P
[14:12] <shadeslayer> but ok :P
[14:18] <Mirv> Riddell: thanks. hopefully Qt 5.3.2 then tomorrow, after I get some other acks too.
[14:27] <Riddell> Mirv: ooh nice
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:41] <soee> Riddell: ping
[14:42] <Riddell> hi soee 
[14:44] <soee> Riddell: small suggestion form mu side, i think it would be better to add some description to links posted on twitter, so for example not only "wire.kubuntu.org/?p=198 " that tells nothing but Something like "Kubuntu Polo Shirts are Shipping! wire.kubuntu.org/?p=198 "
[14:46] <Riddell> mm yes
[14:46] <Riddell> it's because I use hootsuite which shows he preview but of course that won't go through to twitter
[15:05] <Mirv> Riddell: ok if you can have me a present for tomorrow morning, please check through the dependency chains so far that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kio/5.4.0-0ubuntu1 builds :)
[15:06] <Mirv> then I could probably do the required frameworkintegration/plasma-framework rebuilds for the Qt landing
[15:07] <Mirv> and of course everyone can join the fun, or just run your magic script every now and then.
[15:21] <Riddell> Mirv: I'll try :)
[15:23] <bukai> Riddell: Hi, to create an app i need to give a url should I give kubuntu,org for now or test.kununtu?
[15:24] <Riddell> bukai: I guess test.kubuntu for now
[15:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: oxygen-qt4 fixed in vivid
[15:53] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't suppose you still have the arm machines available for use?
[15:53] <ScottK> Not that will work with vivid.
[15:54] <Riddell> ScottK: not even a chroot?
[15:54] <ScottK> If you can convince infinity to provide a glibc that will work with the 2.6.23 (or whatever it is) I have, then it might be doable.
[15:54] <ScottK> No, because the chroot still uses the host kernel and it's too old for our glibc.
[15:57] <Riddell> hmm, I'll have to work out how to use mine
[15:57] <Riddell> which is made harder by avahi not working, most annoying
[15:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: are you able to scan the local network and see if my arm box is alive?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hmm
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I don't suppose you have the mac address written down somewhere
[16:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'm afraid not
[16:05] <shadeslayer> hm, not sure how to tell then
[16:05] <shadeslayer> I guess I can count the number of computers that are plugged in
[16:05] <Riddell> doesn't nmap have some clever way to know?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> yeah, -o
[16:06] <shadeslayer> tried that on a few IP's
[16:06] <Riddell> well don't worry, I'll come in later
[16:06] <Riddell> but it so annoys me that avahi doesn't work
[16:07] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:07] <shadeslayer> what's the name of the box?
[16:07] <Riddell> airm.local
[16:08] <shadeslayer> seems to be up
[16:09] <Riddell> oh you found the IP?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:09] <Riddell> what is it?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> 192.168.1.39
[16:09] <Riddell> ok great thanks, I'll come in later and try to get kwin to compile
[16:10] <shadeslayer> okie dokie
[16:17] <_Groo_> anyone taking a look at plasma-desktop? its broken in amd64 for quite some time
[16:17] <_Groo_> so is kscreen
[16:18] <_Groo_> kubuntu-ci
[16:19] <lordievader> _Groo_: Vivid? If so could you give me a link to the ppa?
[16:21] <_Groo_> lordievader: theres no kscreen for vivid? oO only utopic.. and the plasma-desktop is broken in utopic amd64
[16:21] <_Groo_> lordievader: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages
[16:24] <lordievader> _Groo_: No I was after the ppa. Last time I had it enabled apt didn't agree with launchpad. Was wondering if you used a different one.
[16:25] <lordievader> Time to try again, I suppose.
[16:29] <BluesKaj> supposedly we were going to see a plasma5 ppa for 15.04 today, or at least that's my understanding from conversations yesterday
[16:30] <_Groo_> BluesKaj: AFAIK its kubuntu-ci, its replacing neon daily i believe
[16:30] <lordievader> That's what I've heard.
[16:31] <_Groo_> but we need to find kscreen and plasma-desktop. i didnt did it myself because i dont have access to manage kubuntu-ci
[16:31] <_Groo_> plasma-desktop should build fine now, it was missing the other packages that borked last weel
[16:31] <_Groo_> week
[16:31] <_Groo_> kscreen i need to see the buildlog, might be a bug upstream 
[16:32] <_Groo_> i dont know why the autobuild didnt kick for plasma-desktop, last build was from 2014-11-07
[16:34] <lordievader> Updates :) and lots of them.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> where's the metapckage ?
[16:45] <lordievader> Whoo, plasma5 on Vivid with Systemd :D
[16:48] <BluesKaj> no systemd here yet lordievader, 15.04 has enough problems :)
[16:49]  * lordievader hasn't seen any problems yet on 15.04.
[16:49] <lordievader> Granted, I haven't used it much.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> looking at plasma 5 hoping it will restore network manager panel widget ...using the the gnome plasma-nm atm so i can connect the vpn service 
[16:52] <BluesKaj> system settings on 15.04 is suddenly mucked up too 
[16:53] <BluesKaj> odd that I haven't seen any comments about it on ubuntu+1 
[17:02] <bukai> Riddell: Hi
[17:05] <Riddell> hi bukai 
[17:12] <bukai> Riddell: I am sending you the code, can you please see if the design is correct? Btw do not worry about the code or security I will take care of it once I am done with the design.
[17:18] <Riddell> bukai: it would be better if you set it up on a web server somewhere so everyone can see
[17:37] <bukai> Riddell: I do not have access to any server
[17:40] <Riddell> bukai: you have access to that kubuntu server
[18:30] <BluesKaj> soee, are your system settings and network manager working fine on 15.04?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> lordievader, how about your 15.04 ?
[18:40] <lordievader> Blegh X froze, let me login, I'll check.
[18:40] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Systemsettings works fine in Plasma5.
[18:40] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Network manager seems to work too, for as far as I can tell.
[18:41] <lordievader> Whoo, custom shotcuts can be added :D Awesome, great work devels :D
[18:41] <BluesKaj> lordievader, ok , what about plasma 4 , was it ok on that as well ?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> i'm talking about kubunty 15.04 
[18:42] <lordievader> Err no idea, didn't check before I updated.
[18:44] <lordievader> :( plasma5 doesn't allow me to set a slideshow as wallpaper.
[18:49] <_Groo_> lordievader: yeah not there yet
[18:50] <lordievader> _Groo_: I see, should I file a bug?
[18:50] <_Groo_> lordievader: its not a bug, i dont think they ported the code yet
[18:51] <_Groo_> lordievader: maybe you should check the milestone page before opening a bug? i dont know if they are planning that for 5.2 or 5.3
[18:51] <lordievader> Ain't it strange though to have the option there but not the code?
[18:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: master, do you know why kscreen and plasma-desktop arent being daily built? did they slipped from the building script?
[18:52]  * BluesKaj is t still looking for plasma 5 iso or upgrade for 15.04
[18:52] <_Groo_> lordievader: oh wait
[18:52] <_Groo_> its there indeed, let me test
[18:52] <_Groo_> did you add a folder?
[18:53] <_Groo_> it works
[18:53] <_Groo_> add a folder
[18:53] <_Groo_> go to /usr/share/wallpapers
[18:53] <_Groo_> byt default it wont allow you to add a folder
[18:54] <lordievader> _Groo_: That's the problem, I cant ;) It throws an "URL cannot be listed\n file:///" error. And then shows a file browser with my mounts but with an empty directory listing.
[18:54] <_Groo_> just leave it at usr/share/wallpapers and add a * to the file box
[18:54] <_Groo_> should work then
[18:54] <_Groo_> its working for me
[18:55] <lordievader> Here it is horribly broken. (Might be that I'm missing some package)
[18:55] <_Groo_> are you using the daily build?
[18:55] <lordievader> _Groo_: Do you know how I can launch that config window from the terminal?
[18:56] <lordievader> _Groo_: Vivid with a just added kubuntu-ci-unstable ppa.
[18:56] <_Groo_> im using the same but for utopic
[18:56] <_Groo_> so you open the wallpaper settings
[18:56] <_Groo_> wallpaper option
[18:56] <_Groo_> do you have a add folder below?
[18:57] <lordievader> _Groo_: Slideshow option. And no nothing is listed.
[18:57] <_Groo_> no add folder /download wallpapers buttons below?
[18:58] <lordievader> _Groo_: No that is there, but the add folder button throws errors.
[19:00] <Riddell> _Groo_: I've no idea I'm afraid
[19:01] <lordievader> _Groo_: I can send a screen shot if you want?
[19:01] <_Groo_> ok, you open the add folder
[19:01] <_Groo_> then you get a default qt5 file box right?
[19:01] <_Groo_> go to /usr/share/wallpapers
[19:01] <_Groo_> then add * to the file descriptor below
[19:01] <_Groo_> and hit ok
[19:01] <jose> sgclark: ping
[19:02] <sgclark> jose: pong
[19:02] <_Groo_> you should have a new entry in the settings wallpaper witht eh folder
[19:02] <_Groo_> should be enough
[19:02] <jose> sgclark: I was getting participant conflicts with the LoCo one, but appears to have automagically fixed
[19:02] <jose> sgclark: all your sessions should be set now
[19:02] <lordievader> _Groo_: I'll show you why I can't, hold on.
[19:02] <sgclark> jose: thanks!
[19:03] <jose> sgclark: no prob, and please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you
[19:03] <sgclark> jose: will do, thanks again
[19:04] <lordievader> _Groo_: http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/wall1.png and http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/wall2.png
[19:05] <BluesKaj> someone should post the https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable in the topic
[19:06] <_Groo_> lordievader: go to root
[19:06] <_Groo_> enter the wallpapers folder
[19:07] <_Groo_> type * in the listing box
[19:07] <_Groo_> the one empty
[19:07] <_Groo_> above the buttons
[19:07] <_Groo_> strangely i dont see that open dialog, i have thr default qt5 one
[19:07] <_Groo_> go figure
[19:07] <lordievader> _Groo_: I can't, I can click any of my mounts, nothing changes.
[19:07] <_Groo_> click the mount, add * in the white box
[19:08] <lordievader> _Groo_: Doesn't do anything...
[19:08] <lordievader> Either I'm missing some file protocol package or this thing is broken.
[19:08] <lordievader> I'm guessing/hoping the first.
[19:09] <lordievader> _Groo_: Do you know how to launch the desktop properties window through the terminal? 
[19:09] <_Groo_> i dont know then
[19:09] <_Groo_> it works here
[19:09] <_Groo_> on the other hand, i cant change to the breeze icons, although i have them installed, it used half of them and the oxygen ones
[19:09] <_Groo_> and you have them
[19:09] <_Groo_> so
[19:09] <lordievader> It will give me much info to debug this issue.
[19:09] <_Groo_> kreadconfig5 i think
[19:12] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[19:13] <bukai> Riddell: its in subho020m/Kubuntu
[19:14] <bukai> Riddell: please let me know if the basic structure is ok or not 
[19:16]  * bukai goes to sleep , Good night :)
[19:16] <lordievader> Darn, desktop-settings opens in the already running plasmashell process...
[19:22] <lordievader> _Groo_: Guess I'm missing a package, kate complains with rather the same error, but there I get some output :)
[19:38] <lordievader> _Groo_: Fixed the problem, kio wasn't installed XD
[19:46] <ScottK> Riddell: win: New binary: kwin [armhf] (vivid-proposed/universe) [4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:48] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 seems very much improved since my last try ..so far so good on 15.04, my regards to the devs on this ..nice job so far
[19:50] <lordievader> I was about to say so. For as far as I've used it, it works well \o/
[19:51] <BluesKaj> yup, quite nice IMO
[19:51] <soee> oh im happy you finally liked it BluesKaj :D
[19:51] <Riddell> ScottK: yep, please approve
[19:58] <ScottK> Everyone: Please don't override the binary-without-manpage lintian check.  It's a correct check.  The proper response is to write a man page and send it upstream.
[20:00] <soee> Riddell: how atm Plasma5 works woth 15.04 ? it is by default or some extra ppa is required ?
[20:02] <Riddell> soee: the packages are uploaded and compiling away, things may well break for the next few days until it's all in
[20:03] <lordievader> Interesting, Custom Shortcuts doesn't show imported shortcuts but Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> khotkeys do list them.
[20:03] <lordievader> Time to file a bug?
[20:05] <ScottK> Riddell: I rejected kmenuedit because the depends are backwards.  kmenuedit should depend on the -data package, not the reverse.
[20:05] <soee> Riddell: cool, thanks than ill wait a bit before upgrade
[20:05] <Riddell> thanks ScottK 
[20:06] <ScottK> kwin armhf is in though.
[20:06] <Riddell> awooga
[20:07] <Riddell> kwin was blocking important plasma bits so that's nice
[20:07] <Riddell> although I see other arches are struggling with the frameworks update at the same time
[20:11] <ScottK> Riddell: Do we still need Messages.sh for DFSG reasons of providing the complete source/build system?
[20:12] <Riddell> ScottK: yes I suppose so, what's missing it?
[20:13] <ScottK> ksysguard
[20:13]  * ScottK will reject
[20:13] <Riddell> ScottK: hang on
[20:13] <Riddell> ScottK: it has gui/Messages.sh
[20:13]  * ScottK hangs on
[20:13] <Riddell> where do you think it's missing?
[20:14] <ScottK> Generally, I recall finding it in the top level directory.
[20:14] <ScottK> I didn't think to look there.
[20:16] <ScottK> It's also got the unfortunate override of binary-without-manpage.
[20:17] <ScottK> That should be removed, but I won't reject for it.
[20:18] <Riddell> Messages.sh can be anywhere indeed
[20:18] <ScottK> Also no-human-maintainers shouldn't be overridden.  It's a don't care for Ubuntu anyway.
[20:18] <ScottK> Aye.  Thanks for checking and pointing it out.
[20:19] <ScottK> Seems find otherwise.  Accepted.
[20:23] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma 5.1.1 uploaded, thanks!
[20:23] <sgclark> Riddell: woot
[20:24] <sgclark> ScottK: I think those overrides were done by apachelogger due to the CI system barfing on them
[20:25] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm off for the evening, if you're still around for a bit you can run http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-retry-builds every hour with --kf5 --force
[20:25] <Riddell> until all the frameworks get built
[20:25]  * Riddell out
[20:25] <sgclark> Riddell: sure
[20:31] <lordievader> Hehe, brute-force is the way to go ;)
[20:34] <soee> :)
[20:38] <ScottK> sgclark: O
[20:38] <ScottK> Oops
[20:39] <ScottK> sgclark: I'll see about getting no-human-maintainers added to the list of tests ignored in the Ubuntu profile.
[20:39] <sgclark> ScottK: ok
[20:39] <ScottK> The man page one needs man pages written.  They aren't that hard.
[20:40] <sgclark> ScottK: yep I know, it is a matter of time though
[21:41] <claydoh> For Utopic, does kubuntu-ci upgrade or run alongside as neon did?
[21:44] <sgclark> upgrades claydoh
[21:45] <claydoh> cool, thanks sgclark folks will have questions in the forum and ml, I am sure
[21:47] <sgclark> claydoh: err why? it really is not for public consumption
[21:47] <sgclark> claydoh: is it listyed somewhere or something?
[21:48] <sgclark> Riddell: sorry trying to run that script and nothing seems to be happening
[21:49] <claydoh> sgclark: no, but peole find things, and are already asking about neon and plasma 5 for 14.10, and ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable 
[21:49] <sgclark> ugh
[21:49] <claydoh> is metioned https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages
[21:52] <claydoh> I figured I'd ask around before posting on the subject
[22:00] <ScottK> sgclark: Uploaded lintian with no-human-maintainers disabled for Ubuntu.
[22:02] <shadeslayer> sgclark: curious, who's asking for support when using CI packaging?
[22:06] <sgclark> shadeslayer: I am starting to see it in various social channels, I am only afraid that if the PPA gets out to everyone the problem questions will pile up. It really should not be used by anyone but those that know how to fix things when they break...
[22:06] <shadeslayer> right, just curious which social channels
[22:17] <sgclark> shadeslayer: bits I have seen in my personal channels, not out of hand atm but with it listed https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages it will grow to out of hand proportions...
[22:18] <shadeslayer> mhm
[22:19] <shadeslayer> could put it in #kubuntu
[22:19] <shadeslayer> the topic of #kubuntu that is
[22:22]  * shadeslayer goes back to reading more ruby code
[22:37] <Riddell> sgclark: you ran it with  --kf5 --force ?
[22:37] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah
[22:38] <sgclark> Riddell: no errors but nothing seemed to happen
[22:42] <Riddell> it'll output the name of the packages if something happens
[22:42] <Riddell> oh I know you probably need the list of packages in the same directory
[22:42] <sgclark> Riddell: that is what I thought, in which case nothing happened.
[22:42] <sgclark> ahh
[22:43] <sgclark> right, that make sense
[22:43] <_Groo_> can someone confirm that /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtconfig is missing from kubuntu-ci ppa?
[22:46] <sgclark> Riddell: sorted, it is running now
[22:46] <_Groo_> better yet, its there but when you run it
[22:46] <_Groo_> qtconfig: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtconfig': No such file or directory
[22:46] <_Groo_> ta dah
[22:55] <_Groo_> im using the theme tree: breeze, but the oxygen icons show up... thoughts?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: maybe because you don't have qtconfig installed?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> !find qt5/bin/qtconfig
[22:57] <shadeslayer> mmm
[22:58] <shadeslayer> yeah, maybe doesn't exist for Qt5?
[22:58] <shadeslayer> you might want to do : QT_SELECT=4 qtconfig
[23:04] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i believe it does exist
[23:04] <_Groo_> it might be missing from the pakcage?
[23:04] <shadeslayer> nope
[23:05] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: why do you think it exists
[23:05] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: also, can you confirm if you have breeze icons in systemsettings with kf5 from kubuntu-ci?
[23:05] <shadeslayer> I'm not running kubuntu-ci
[23:06] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: https://packages.debian.org/search?mode=path&suite=sid&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=qt5%2Fbin%2Fqtconfig
[23:06] <_Groo_> qtchooser: /usr/bin/qtconfig
[23:06] <shadeslayer> that doesn't matter
[23:06] <shadeslayer> it's a symlink
[23:06] <shadeslayer> to qtchooser
[23:06] <_Groo_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Out 27 06:33 /usr/bin/qtconfig -> qtchooser
[23:06] <shadeslayer> the entire Qt setup has changed with Qt4/Qt5
[23:06] <shadeslayer> yes
[23:06] <_Groo_> ok then
[23:06] <_Groo_> nice to know
[23:07] <shadeslayer> see man qtchooser
[23:07] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UrFGlkmk
[23:07] <_Groo_> it opens breeze
[23:07] <_Groo_> but it uses oxygen icons
[23:07] <_Groo_> all over the place
[23:07] <shadeslayer> show screenshot
[23:07] <_Groo_> but kde4 theme is using the correct breeze theme
[23:09] <_Groo_> http://picpaste.com/snapshot1.png
[23:10] <_Groo_> pitty the pastebin isnt ported to kf5 yet
[23:10] <_Groo_> it was so handy
[23:10] <ScottK> You should still be able to use it in a Plamsa 5 workspace, shouldn't you?
[23:11] <_Groo_> i doubt it, it was plasma4 plasmoid
[23:12] <_Groo_> plasmoid didnt migrate to 5 without porting AFAIK
[23:13] <_Groo_> any idea why kf5 isnt showing the breeze icons? 
[23:13] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: what does Icons say?
[23:13] <_Groo_> its using breeze, i tried choosing dark and back to breeze, same thing
[23:14] <_Groo_> for all i know, settings already have all the breeze icons, so ... but the ones for dialogs are working
[23:14] <_Groo_> something got broken in kubuntu-ci perhaps
[23:14] <_Groo_> i cant find any relevant error runnning plasmashell 
[23:15] <_Groo_> or removing .cache, .local, .config
[23:15] <_Groo_> and /tmp/kde-groo
[23:15] <_Groo_> still shows me a mix of oxygen, breeze
[23:15] <_Groo_> i understand the fallback is oxygen
[23:15] <_Groo_> but the theme is using it first, although breeze is selected
[23:17] <_Groo_> see this one http://picpaste.com/snapshot2.png
[23:18] <_Groo_> dolphin which is a kde4 app uses them
[23:18] <_Groo_> systemsettings which is pure kf5 doesnt
[23:18] <_Groo_> and the plasma launcher uses a mix of them both
[23:18]  * _Groo_ is confused
[23:28] <_Groo_> also, this is creating huge .xsessionerror files _xgeWireToEvent: Unknown extension 148, this should never happen. _xgeWireToEvent: Unknown extension 148, this should never happen.
[23:52] <ScottK> Would someone who has a complete checkout of kf5/plasma5 go through and sed out the no-human-maintainers lintian overrides now that it's disabled in Ubuntu.
[23:53] <sgclark> ScottK: sure I can do that here in a bit
[23:53] <ScottK> Thanks.
[23:55] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: BTW icons still work after upgrading to the unstable PPA
[23:55] <shadeslayer> maybe you want to knockout ~/.cache
[23:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: already did that multiple times
[23:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: so you dont have oxygen icons in gwenview and systemsettings?
[23:59] <_Groo_> can you pastebin usr/share/icons/breeze ?
[23:59] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8929431/