=== jhodapp|sick is now known as jhodapp [02:09] === trainguards: IMAGE 15 building (started: 20141110 02:10) === [03:09] === trainguards: RTM IMAGE 154 building (started: 20141110 03:10) === [03:29] === trainguards: IMAGE 15 DONE (finished: 20141110 03:30) === [03:29] === changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/15.changes === === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:19] === trainguards: RTM IMAGE 154 DONE (finished: 20141110 04:20) === [04:19] === changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/154.changes === [05:11] Mirv: up yet? How's it going? [05:17] robru: hey [05:18] robru: I don't see any problems at the moment (expect KDE 5 is in flux so my silo is in flux too waiting for dependencies) [05:19] Mirv: no worries, i should be around for a couple hours in case anything explodes. Just gaming a bit, but should hear pings. [05:21] ok! === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss [08:25] ogra_: when you're around, could you ack https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-007-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_accounts-qml-module_0.5+15.04.20141107-0ubuntu1.diff ? [08:32] Mirv, ACK, looks fine [08:42] thanks! [08:44] robru: hmm, publishing problem when pushing to ~ps-jenkins branches https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-007-2-publish/34/console [08:47] robru: looks like the branches are again gone, although on Friday it was supposed to be fixed? [08:53] tvoss, https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1391076 [08:53] Error: ubuntu bug 1391076 not found [08:53] :( [08:54] ogra_, ack. So you couldn't even reveal the launcher or switch apps? [08:54] sometimes i couldnt even unlock [08:54] ogra_, anything in logcat? [08:54] gar ! [08:55] next time i'll check ... thats the only log i didnt look at [08:55] syslog only had a lot of "sleep spam" [08:55] dmesg the same [08:56] tvoss, several people of my team saw it too btw [08:56] so it seems rather common [08:56] ogra_, ack, having logcat would be helpful I guess [08:57] right [08:57] will check it the next time it happens [08:57] ogra_, also ps -ef | grep dbus please [08:57] i was seeing dbus popping up in top from time to time [08:58] consuming 0.5-1.2% when it showed up [08:58] (cant tell if it was system or session bus though ... cmdline was cut off indeed) [08:59] ogra_, ack [09:00] Saviq, bah, i just had my dash restart again :( [09:00] ogra_, crash? oom? [09:00] (playing an embedded youtube video in G+) [09:01] Saviq, i guess notmal lifecycle mgmt [09:01] *normal [09:01] that was a 5min embedded video [09:01] ogra_, does syslog say it killed it? [09:01] after 3min of playback the "scopes" splash took over the screen [09:02] Saviq, nope [09:02] ogra_, .crash file? [09:03] oh, yeah [09:03] ogra_, please don't assume the worst ;) [09:04] ogra_, if it was lifecycle related, syslog would say that oom killed dash [09:04] Saviq, https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/55c93d68-68b5-11e4-a8b3-fa163e5bb1a2 [09:04] not re-traced yet it seems [09:04] ogra_, and it won't get retraced, signal 6... [09:05] Saviq, any reason we do not retrace aborts? [09:05] tvoss, no idea [09:05] Saviq, wondering why we call it crash :) [09:05] ask pitti :) [09:05] tvoss, probably because the app restarts in your facte :P [09:05] *face [09:05] we do retrace aborts, at least on launchpad [09:06] if e.u.c doesn't do it I guess it's an ev/bdmurray's question [09:07] ogra_, it's fine to log a bug for a "crash", however, automatic reporting should distinguish [09:12] tvoss, well, i didnt file a bug for that one yet [09:13] ogra_, yup, I meant in general [09:13] right === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:19] dbarth_: I'm afraid you'll need to force rebuild the whole silo 7. there was a hotfix on Friday from robru to fix the disappearing code branches, but it was after your packages were built. [09:34] trainguards, ↑ please [09:35] Saviq: vivid-002 [09:35] Saviq: vivid-015, sorry [09:35] Mirv, indeed, I checked before, and 2 was taken, was expecting 15 ;) [09:40] Mirv, thanks [09:44] Mirv: ok, doing that now [09:52] Saviq, so we were reviewing the smoke test results in the landing meeting ... seems there is still some flaky unity8 behavior where it randomly fails one or the other test [09:52] ogra_, yes, we're looking into it [09:52] ah, cool, thanks ! [09:53] bzoltan, i think something similar goes for UITK ... we always have one or two tests failing, seems to be on a random pattern though [09:57] brendand: what was the name of the tool used to add ci train PPA:s? [09:58] Mirv, "citrain" [09:58] Mirv, from phablet-tools-citrain [09:59] Saviq: thanks! I went through all the binaries in phablet-tools, I didn't notice there was the new package [11:38] can I use a silo to build a for-testing package? or is there a better way? [11:39] as long as we are not short on silos thats fine [11:39] Chipaca, CI build debs on merge requests [11:40] that can be useful as well [11:40] but otherwise yeah, what ogra_ wrote [11:40] bah, unity8 just locked (I guess it did, I can't do any edge gesture anymore nor interact with the dash) [11:40] no segfault/apport [11:40] seb128: i don't think i have access to the ci build debs, so i'll go with what ogra said :) [11:41] or get your own devirt PPA and upload something to it [11:41] seb128: check logcat [11:41] ogra_: ^ [11:41] davmor2, ? [11:41] (assuming it's the sort of thing where you need an armhf package and a virtualised PPA build under qemu won't cut it) [11:41] seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1391076 [11:41] Error: ubuntu bug 1391076 not found [11:42] seb128, what davmor2 said, i checked everything <(several times on the WE) except logcat [11:42] ogra_, what is logcat? [11:42] Chipaca, you can also join the canonical-arm-dev team, it has a devirt PPA [11:42] seb128: ogra was waiting for his to do that but it looks like yours beat him to it ;) [11:42] davmor2, ^ cf question [11:42] seb128, adb shell /system/bin/logcat -d [11:43] itching for devirt PPAs no longer to be a thing [11:43] the android logging tool [11:43] ogra_, returns nothing [11:43] trainguards, hey, could you please reconfigure landing-018 (MP has changed)? [11:43] oh, better with sudo [11:43] ah, sorry [11:43] trainguards, actually, i'm sorry, there's a mistake, please ignore that for now [11:44] ogra_, davmor2, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8917957/ [11:44] tvoss, ^^^ [11:45] it did hang when I tried to click on the location icon in the gmaps application [11:45] well I could swipe away from gmap but since it's frozen [11:45] I keep it in this state, if anyone needs info let me know [11:46] trainguards, in case queuebot isn't talking to you, could i please have a silo for row 69? [11:46] seb128, so nothing showing up in top? [11:46] pstolowski: ignoring :) [11:46] Chipaca: queuebot is not, doing [11:46] Mirv: thanks :) [11:46] tvoss, [11:47] 3005 phablet 20 0 6088 1168 804 R 20.7 0.1 0:00.08 top [11:47] 764 message+ 20 0 23520 20168 716 S 5.2 2.1 39:59.68 dbus-daemon [11:47] 2304 root 20 0 112984 7636 5764 S 5.2 0.8 2:35.75 ubuntu-loca+ [11:47] 27265 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 5.2 0.0 0:14.77 kworker/u:2 [11:47] 1 root 20 0 3996 2092 940 S 0.0 0.2 2:23.98 init [11:47] nothing special [11:47] not really excessive [11:47] seb128, yup, and the gps stuff in logcat is perfectly fine, too [11:48] the symptoms look very much like what i'm seeing [11:48] or what rsalveti saw too [11:49] like the input layer is ignoring you [11:51] yeah, seems like that [11:51] rmmod ignorance :P [11:53] seb128, ogra_ the explanation might be the lifecycle getting confused. I'm pretty sure that the input layer is not ignorant to the both of you :) [11:54] trainguards i'm giving up with landings in lines #24 and #25 ("Fix 1381971..."), please remove; when you do, then #43 ("Aggregate youtube...") can be unblocked [11:55] pstolowski: ok, freeing up silo 018/vivid etc [11:59] Mirv, thanks [12:01] thostr_: ok to remove line 25 / bug #1379817 rtm silo, the bug is not on wishlists? [12:01] bug 1379817 in mediascanner2 (Ubuntu RTM) "When importing 7 digital albums music-app sometimes displays "Imported files not found" when all files have been imported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379817 [12:03] Mirv: seems it was removed from the reviewed wishlist... [12:03] Mirv: I'll double check with Olli once he's online [12:03] tvoss: ok to remove line 23 / sync from rtm to vivid dbus-cpp+indicator-network+location-service+media-hub+qtubuntu-media+qtubuntu-media-signals? it seems to me all of those have had vivid releases last week. [12:03] thostr_: ok, thanks [12:03] Mirv, yup, looks fine to me [12:04] thaank you [12:04] * Mirv the cleaner [12:04] hah [12:21] oh, wow [12:21] i just lost the right swipe gesture to unlock [12:21] tvoss, ^^^^ [12:22] left swipe still works [12:22] ogra_, I think saviq is your friend here [12:22] heh [12:22] and right swipe in unlocked I works just fine [12:22] it seems to only be the greeter [12:23] tvoss, well, that meakes me even more think there is an issue with our input system [12:23] or with the way we use it [12:23] ogra_, sure, but there are ~5 layers in between that could have an issue, too [12:24] time to move that into systemd :P [12:24] 5 layers ... tsk [12:35] Saviq, mzanetti bug 1391149 [12:35] bug 1391149 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "greeter not reacting to swipes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1391149 [12:36] mhm... [12:36] ogra_: any chance on reproducing this? [12:36] it stays like it once it starts ... i still have it [12:36] ogra_: does the rest of the phone still work? [12:36] yep [12:37] ogra_: e.g. can you tap on launcher buttons? [12:37] or scroll the launcher up/down [12:37] mzanetti, it is fully usable ... [12:37] ok... so not the input issue [12:37] unlike in https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1391076 [12:37] Error: ubuntu bug 1391076 not found [12:37] right [12:37] they might be realted though [12:38] does tapping the greeter tease the launcher? [12:38] perhaps this one is a smaller manifestation of the same [12:38] no [12:38] the greeter is completely unresponsive [12:38] i can swipe in the launcher and get the PIN dialog ... and then can use the phone normally [12:40] ogra_: ok, thanks [12:57] davmor2: heyhey === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:28] cwayne: I need to finish sanity testing mako on vivid then I'll get back to you dude [13:28] cwayne: is it all ready now? [13:29] cwayne: and is there a new changelog? [13:30] davmor2: all ready, let me see what else has changed, i think it was not much since that email [13:33] cwayne: no I guess not but you said there were some more fixes to land, So I'm assuming the apps list hasn't change but the bugs fixed list may of increase [13:33] davmor2: yep, just going through and updating the email now [13:33] there's 1 or 2 more clicks that changed [13:34] davmor2: update sent [13:38] cwayne, will it finally be using proper location data in the today scope ? [13:38] ogra_: it does except for weather channel [13:38] ogra_, it's not doing that atm? [13:38] which isn't one of ours [13:38] seb128, geoip [13:38] cwayne: thanks [13:39] seb128, i always get waeather data from ~200km away [13:39] oh ok [13:39] which makes the today scope pretty useless wrt weather [13:39] that's why I've a town which is ~90km away here [13:39] yeah, worth, it doesn't tell you what location it uses for weather [13:39] well, living in the mountains 90km would be enough to get me totally differennt weather [13:39] you need to click on the details which sends you to another lens [13:40] right [13:40] and then i get something 100-200km west [13:40] with no way to go back [13:40] that's a bit frustrating [13:40] going back works for me [13:40] how? [13:40] using the top left arrow [13:40] there is no such arrow [13:41] cwayne: I'll give you a ping when it's tested [13:41] tapping on weather i get the weather chennel scope here [13:41] davmor2: thank you sir [13:41] ogra_, oh, because you don't have weather in your favorites [13:41] with a back arrow in the top left corner [13:41] if you do it bounces you there [13:41] and there is no arrow [13:41] ah [13:41] right, i only have my music (totally annoying since it always defaults to artists instead of album) and videos [13:44] do i need to reconfigure a silo if i make changes to the branch associated with an mp associated with the silo? [13:51] Mirv: ^? [13:52] Chipaca: if you update the MP, you just kick build again to pick up the latest changes. [13:52] I mean, if you update the branch, which updates the MP [13:52] Mirv: i didn't chagne the mp, i changed the branch under it [13:52] ah [13:53] then i don't get it :( [13:53] * Chipaca pokes the buildlog with a stick [13:53] Chipaca: so when you update the branch, then MP also reflects the change and build picks it up. if you would run build without changing anything, it would complain about nothing being changed. [13:55] maybe i need the depends in the build-depends to run the tests? === Guest6771 is now known as balloons [13:57] Chipaca: I don't have the context, but "yes, maybe" :) [13:57] * Chipaca tries it [14:00] rsalveti: if you have time to check the qt 5.3.2 from emulator point of view, just leave me a note again and I can consider vivid release tomorrow [14:00] Mirv: sure, will get this done today [14:03] great [14:12] good morning [14:13] how are things today? [14:13] hey hey [14:14] calm, rtm landing wise. just a trust-store update so far today. [14:15] trainguards hey, i had an old test silo ubuntu/landing-001 that was utopic, i just changed it to vivid....i assume it needs your reconfigure ? [14:15] olli, we seem to have input layer issues seen by quite a lot people and non-debuggable yet (nothing in logs etc) ... beyond that 150/151 seem to look quite okayish [14:16] Mirv, ogra_ thx [14:16] kgunn: it needs to be freed, reassigned and rebuilt, yes. ok to empty the silo? [14:16] olli: my guess looking into ogra's input concern....of course they haven't seen it yet :-/ [14:16] Mirv: absolutely [14:17] olli, https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1391076 and https://launchpad.net/bugs/1391149 [14:17] Error: ubuntu bug 1391076 not found [14:17] Ubuntu bug 1391149 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "greeter not reacting to swipes" [Undecided,New] [14:17] the former one is serious [14:17] the latter is just annoying ... they might be related [14:18] ogra_: curious, one not said "while browsing unfavorited scopes"....did you notice any pattern like that? [14:18] kgunn, nope, no pattern at all ... sometimes it hangs hard on the greeter, sometimes in the middle of active use [14:19] mmm [14:19] it also only seems to happen after quite a while of the device being up [14:19] a few hours at least [14:20] i'm currently having the second bug where only the greeter doesnt react to swipes [14:20] havent seen the full hang today yet [14:38] * davmor2 hugs Saviq thanks another bug bites the dust \o/ [14:48] Elleo, any progress on getting silo 3 unblocked with olli? [14:48] Elleo, it's on our queue but we need permission to land [14:49] brendand: will ping him now [14:54] ogra_: could you use the rtm/14 ppa to see if you get the "zomg where are my system update notifications" again? [14:55] Chsure, but that will be time consuming indeed (i dont have time today to jump back and forth through images (each image takes 45min+ over my DSL)) [14:55] Chipaca, ^^ [14:56] ogra_: ouch! [14:56] (and we havent planned building any images during the day) [14:56] ogra_: then, yeah, no. [15:01] brendand, Elleo but id? [15:03] olli: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maliit-framework/+bug/1373985 [15:03] Ubuntu bug 1373985 in maliit-framework (Ubuntu RTM) "foreground app doesn't get activated after we leave the lock screen" [Undecided,In progress] [15:05] Elleo, have an MR link? === plars changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Need a silo? Ping trainguards | Need help with something else? Ping plars | Train Dashboard: http://bit.ly/1mDv1FS | QA Signoffs: http://bit.ly/1qMAKYd | Known Issues: Touch devices in jenkins are unavailable after flashing, recovery in progress. Known CI Train issues are resolved but unknown issues may remain, ping robru at first sign of trouble. [15:07] pmcgowan: there's my original MR here: https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu/utopic/maliit-framework/fix-1373985 but I'm not entirely sure if rsalveti used that directly when adding the patch to the package [15:09] pmcgowan: oops, that's actually just the branch I think the MR has been removed [15:09] pmcgowan: probably need to wait for rsalveti to know exactly how he was doing things [15:09] Elleo, does it add an entirely new file? [15:09] or is the diff wacked [15:09] pmcgowan: if you're looking for the actual code change then only the patch is relevant though: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu/utopic/maliit-framework/fix-1373985/view/head:/debian/patches/0012-fix-focus-changes.patch [15:10] Elleo, so one line change [15:10] pmcgowan: yep [15:10] Elleo, that branch had a new minputcontext.cpp ? [15:12] pmcgowan: that's just a product of the debian patching process, that's in the .pc// dir, it's not part of the build; there's a .pc/ directory for each patch with its changed files in [15:12] Elleo, ok [15:13] pmcgowan: I'd suggest getting rsalveti's input on the actual process he goes through with these sorts of patches though, as it's not something I'm especially familiar with [15:13] Elleo, seems good to me, will wait for olli to also ack [15:13] pmcgowan: okay, thanks [15:15] pmcgowan, hey, can we get https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1386682 on the rtm wishlist? (it's photo sharing with facebook not working on current rtm and it's a 1 liner change to fix it) [15:15] Ubuntu bug 1386682 in webbrowser-app "Facebook share is broken" [High,In progress] [15:16] seb128, we just did :) [15:16] pmcgowan, thanks [15:16] pmcgowan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings-components/+bug/1389234 would be nice as well [15:16] Ubuntu bug 1389234 in telephony-service "Message actions not translated ("Reply", "Call back")" [High,In progress] [15:16] not sure if it's on the list yet [15:16] I think so let me look [15:17] seb128, that one is already ok to land [15:17] pmcgowan, great, thanks [15:33] dbarth_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1386682 got approved for rtm wishlist, can you make sure the fix land there as well? ;-) [15:33] Ubuntu bug 1386682 in webbrowser-app "Facebook share is broken" [High,In progress] [15:38] seb128: ah ok [15:38] seb128: but like ota now, right? [15:39] ogra_, think i just got a hang too [15:39] yay [15:39] brendand_, check logcate output please [15:39] *logcat [15:40] dbarth_, dunno, just land it in the rtm serie and let them figure out on what image it's shipped then [15:40] ogra_, when you get it does the screen turn off but not lock the device? [15:40] john-mcaleely: hey. abeato is away? do you know any ofono guy who could look from that point of view at the bug #1357321 ? [15:40] bug 1357321 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[TOPBLOCKER] QNetworkAccessManager doesn't support roaming on Ubuntu" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357321 [15:40] brendand_, right, and it doesnt take any input anymore [15:40] and cyphermox for the network-manager part of debugging the problem [15:41] brightness and screen on/off still work [15:41] ogra_, i can't phablet-shell either? [15:41] err, wha? [15:41] brendand_, right, but you can adb shell [15:41] ogra_, where is logcat? [15:41] brendand_, seems ssh is blocking for phablet-shell [15:41] /system/bin/logcat -d [15:42] (sudo) [15:42] Elleo: pmcgowan: I just got the patch and pushed as part of a src package upload [15:42] ogra_, which lines are interesting? [15:42] so the branch is not needed, but the package is already in vivid [15:42] so all it needs to be done is a package sync from vivid into rtm [15:42] brendand_, dunno, tvoss asked for it [15:44] tvoss, i have a logcat from that issue [15:44] brendand_, ENOCONTEXT :) [15:44] tvoss, UI hang [15:44] tvoss, http://people.canonical.com/~brendan-donegan/logcat.log [15:45] brendand_, ack and thx [15:47] Mirv, he'll be back tomorrow. [15:47] Mirv, otherwise, awe is where I would go === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [15:53] awe is out too [15:53] (at least, as far as I know) [15:54] this really doesn't seem like something NM would do -- at least not when it's not already doing it [15:55] john-mcaleely: Mirv: we'll need more logs, but something else is trying to bring up 3G consistently, thinking it's not there. I'd look at apn editor or something. Maybe now that the bearer code works, some software is trying to be clever [15:56] cyphermox, settings doent do anything not user initiated [15:56] pmcgowan: then it's not settings [15:56] but clearly something is doing it, and it doesn't happen unless the qtbearer changes are added [15:57] telephony service? [15:58] I have no idea [15:58] with some more logs it might be easier to figure out\ [15:59] pmcgowan: we definitely don't see that behavior without the qtbearer changes do we? [15:59] Mirv, hey, what would be the process to get https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-settings-components/workaround-unstranslated-string/+merge/240615 in rtm? [15:59] Mirv, knowing it has been approved for rtm already, I'm just unsure if that's normal CI workflow, if that needs QA approval, etc [16:00] cyphermox, no, didnt check the log but we dont lose the connection [16:00] right [16:00] and it seems to be on a timer [16:00] so something changed, if not because of qtbearer, then become something else (android?) [16:00] right [16:00] consistently about 24 seconds [16:01] (after NM has activated the 3g connection) [16:08] cyphermox, whateer is activating the connection would need to be using the qnetwork api? [16:08] indeed [16:08] cwayne: 212 does that sound right for this image? [16:09] pmcgowan: since that's what changed, it would have to be listening for something of it [16:09] cyphermox, do you know which package contains that [16:09] will do a quick depends check [16:09] davmor2: yeap [16:10] cwayne: woohoo! [16:19] pmcgowan: jsut a second [16:20] pmcgowan: maybe libqt5network5? [16:20] Mirv: do you know specifically where the QtBearer stuff would live? [16:21] pmcgowan: the issue is you'll get lots of hits [16:21] cyphermox, yep it does, but some interesting ones [16:21] cyphermox, scopes, push, udm [16:23] udm... [16:23] we should just use wget, i said it before !! [16:24] just make udm a C++ frontend :) [16:24] best I can say for now is my back really hurts, I must have done something bad [16:27] cyphermox: yes, the libqnmbearer.so in libqt5network5 [16:31] Mirv, did you test the qnetwork stuff on a krillin? [16:32] Mirv, or does the probem show up on a mako do we know? [16:37] pmcgowan: I don't have krillin, so I tested on mako yes. so it seems similar on both. [16:38] Mirv, ok rules out a dual sim relation [16:40] slangasek, ping [16:40] slangasek, is it good time to talk about OTA testing? [16:41] ogra_: CI Train broke a silo again, can you copy QA approved top blocker fix ./copy-package -b -d ubuntu-rtm -s 14.09 --ppa=ci-train-ppa-service --ppa-name=landing-008 --to-distribution=ubuntu-rtm --to-suite=14.09-proposed --to-primary ubuntu-ui-toolkit [16:42] Mirv, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8922356/ versions OK ? [16:42] ogra_: looks correct. [16:43] ok, hitting y [16:43] Copy [y|N]? y [16:43] 16 packages successfully copied. [16:43] ... [16:43] thanks [16:43] :) [16:45] Mirv, hey, did you see my ping earlier? [16:48] Mirv: please convert to the new syntax in your notes on how to do this: ./copy-package --from=~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu-rtm/landing-008 --from-suite=14.09 --to=ubuntu-rtm --to-suite=14.09-proposed -b ubuntu-ui-toolkit [16:49] less option soup and easier to read [16:50] oh, righ, i totally forgot that [16:50] +t [16:51] brendand_, hey, i'm trying to catch up with the status of ubuntu-rtm/landing-007 that's currently pending your sign off according to QA dashboard; is it still good to go today? [16:51] alecu, thostr_ ^ [16:55] hi trainguards! may I ask you to reconfigure silo ubuntu-rtm/landing-001 ? I added an extra MP and the train is complaining: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-001-0-reconfigure/2/console === plars changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Need a silo? Ping trainguards | Need help with something else? Ping cihelp | Train Dashboard: http://bit.ly/1mDv1FS | QA Signoffs: http://bit.ly/1qMAKYd | Known Issues: Touch devices in jenkins are unavailable after flashing, recovery in progress. Known CI Train issues are resolved but unknown issues may remain, ping robru at first sign of trouble. [17:04] cjwatson: converted, thanks [17:04] iahmad: hi there [17:05] slangasek, hello [17:05] Mirv, hey, can I require a package to be source copied from vivid to rtm? or do we need to create a rtm vcs and have a mp for that serie? [17:08] slangasek, I pinged you to discuss the OTA testing of N+1 scenarios [17:08] iahmad: so the way to do OTA N+1 testing is: 1) adb into the device and edit /etc/system-image/channel.ini to change the build_number back by one; 2) enter system-settings and check for available updates; 3) accept the upgrade [17:10] iahmad: do you need more detail on this? It should really parallel any existing manual tests of OTA N-1 updates, except for the manual change with adb [17:10] shrug, I guess Mirv has decided to ignore me [17:10] does anyone else know what should be done to land a fix from vivid in rtm? can a source copy be requested? [17:10] slangasek, I think, that should be enough and straight forward. Let me try it and will come back to you if got any questions. [17:10] or does it need a merge request? [17:23] cwayne: have you done a fresh install of 212? if so can you open here maps and let me know if you see the trust store popup to allow it to access location please. Currently I don't see it so I get no location in here [17:23] seb128: as the package is on the wishlist, you can just have a silo, either a sync one or if they are diverted, a rtm branch specific identical MP [17:23] iahmad: slangasek: do either of you have any concerns that this will not catch all defects? This is an incredibly high impact if failures occur in N+1 testing [17:24]