/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/10/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

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pittiGood morning05:45
larsugood morning!06:20
pittihey larsu, wie gehts?06:32
larsupitti: super danke! Und dir?06:32
pittilarsu: mir auch, danke; wir waren gestern mal wieder Badminton spielen und saunieren, es wird Herbst :)06:32
larsupitti: ja, es wird echt kalt langsam06:33
mlankhorstHello, desktop!07:45
mlankhorstalways a good start when your system dies after resume with a ton of kworkers :/07:46
willcookemorning all08:42
larsumorning willcooke!08:43
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willcookehey larsu, good weekend?08:44
larsudefinitely. Did (almost) nothing for two days. Felt great :=08:45
larsuhow about you?08:45
willcookeI went to a 20 year university reunion in Nottingham.08:46
willcookeI'm still hung over08:46
willcooketoo old.08:46
larsuhaha, sounds like you had a lot of fun there ;)08:46
willcookeit was great to see people again after such a long time.08:47
larsuI can only imagine... :P08:48
willcookeha!08:48
larsubut yeah, I had the same feeling at my 10 year high-school reunion08:48
seb128good morning desktopers08:48
larsumade me feel old08:48
willcooke:D08:48
willcookehey seb12808:48
seb128hey larsu willcooke08:49
* larsu waves to seb12808:49
pittihey seb12808:49
seb128hey pitti, wie gehts?08:49
pittiseb128: sehr gut, danke! wir haben gestern das erste Mal wieder Badminton gespielt und sind in die Sauna gegangen :)08:51
pittiseb128: and we've been to the stadium on Saturday, that was fun!08:52
Noskcajseb128, i'm about to offline, but can you take another look at what is being done with gnome-media08:53
seb128Noskcaj, I've no real interest in gnome-media08:57
seb128pitti, sounds like a fun w.e :-=)08:57
pittiseb128: oui !09:00
larsupitti: setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH and GI_REPOSITORY_PATH should be enough for gir apps to pick up a local library, no?09:05
* larsu is doubting himself09:05
pittilarsu: yes09:06
larsuweird....09:07
larsubut thanks :)09:07
Laneyyo yo09:10
* Laney regrets making the dentist appointment so early09:10
larsugood morning Laney. Toothache?09:11
Laneynope, annual check up09:11
larsugood to hear :)09:11
Laneygood weekend?09:11
Laneywillcooke was in town?09:11
larsuawesome, ya. Very relaxing09:11
larsuyou?09:11
Laneynot bad09:12
Laneyfurniture shopping ...09:12
Laneymaybe that is bad ...09:12
seb128hey Laney, wie gehts?09:12
larsuLaney: lol. That's good. Could use some of this myself09:13
larsubut I'm always too lazy09:13
LaneyI've been trying and failing to delegate09:14
Laneyyo seb128, prima danke!09:14
Laneyschönes wochenende?09:14
* Laney retrieves his cold breakfast09:15
Laneydamn you extra 15 minute lie in09:15
willcookeLaney, I went to Oceana(?) :(((((09:16
Laneymy god09:16
seb128Laney, good w.e indeed ;-)09:17
Laneyyou were about 1 minute from the climbing centre though ;-)09:17
LaneyI only went there one time, which was during freshers week09:17
Laneyrock city was the place for me09:18
willcookeEeeee, in maaa day it were Ritzy.  And beer were a pound a pint.  I had to pay 8 quid to be let in, and a further 4 quid to enter the coat raffle09:18
LaneyI hope it was everything you hoped for09:18
Laneyand more09:18
willcookeWe had planned to go to Rock City but there was a gig on09:18
Laneyshame09:19
willcookestill, I don't have to go back in there for another 10 years09:19
Laneyit should have been my 10 year sixth form/school reunion this year09:19
Laneybut nothing happened09:19
larsuseb128: apparently for some people bug #1071738 is a big issue on the LTSs (I got a personal email about this last week)09:20
ubot5bug 1071738 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "Indicator scroll event says direction UP on 12.10 even when scrolling down" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107173809:20
Laneyalso, for reference: http://www.nottinghampost.com/Maggots-fall-ceiling-comedy-night-Nottingham-s/story-21754325-detail/story.html09:20
larsuseb128: do you think it could be SRU material?09:20
seb128larsu, sounds like SRU material yes09:20
seb128larsu, is that the issue you were never able to reproduce or another one?09:20
seb128larsu, wasn't Trevinho_ SRUing some of those?09:21
larsuseb128: no, I can reproduce it and just worked up a fix09:21
larsuseb128: he was?09:21
* larsu saw no activity about that in trunk09:21
seb128larsu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindicator/12.10.2+14.04.20141007.1-0ubuntu109:21
seb128I'm probably confusing things09:21
seb128I was thinking about ^09:21
seb128"  * IndicatorNG: Reverse the scroll delta on left scroll events (LP: #1342731)"09:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 1342731 in nux (Ubuntu) "Horizontal Scrolling over Indicator-ng (and sound) does not work as expected" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134273109:21
larsuseb128: ya this is different. This one is becasue of an incorrect signal definition in libappindicator and only affects app indicators09:22
larsu*because09:22
seb128k09:22
seb128sounds like a good one to fix in the LTS yes09:22
seb128larsu, thanks for working on that!09:22
seb128pitti, is https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/libappindicator/lp1071738/+merge/241244 looking good to you?09:23
seb128larsu, did you figure out why it was not loading your local version?09:24
pittiseb128: I obvioulsy didn't test it, but LGTM, yes09:24
seb128pitti, danke09:25
LaneyNoskcaj: If you do anything, get Debian to do the same please09:25
larsuseb128: yes, I built libappindicator, not libappindicator3 (didn't know we still had gtk2 support in there which is enabled *by default*)09:25
seb128larsu, I'm going to put a landing for it09:25
LaneySounds like it could go away09:25
seb128larsu, then we can do a SRU09:25
larsuseb128: thanks a lot!09:25
seb128yw!09:25
* larsu likes seb128's Monday morning speed ;)09:25
seb128lol09:25
Laneyall that spa time09:26
larsu:D09:26
seb128Laney, pitti: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1390629/+merge/241150 ? did we overlook CI results to land the upower changes (just wondering why it landed if it made a test turn red)09:31
LaneyI think that is required, would be nice if we can make it dynamic though09:36
Laneyand I would guess that people aren't looking at the tests as much any more09:37
seb128why not?09:37
seb128we have tests we should be looking at those :/09:38
LaneyI can only guess but probably once it became acceptable for them to be 'unstable' (i.e. nobody fixed them up when that started happening) then reviewers expected that status and so didn't look when they saw it09:39
seb128shrug09:40
seb128it's not acceptable for them to be unstable09:40
seb128but point taken09:40
Laneyfor example https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-vivid/43/console which is linked from kenvandine's MP there is pretty bad09:45
Laneyand I thought there were more tests than that...09:46
Laneyhmm, timed out09:46
seb128yeah, the CI setup had issues in that run09:47
seb128usually I do a retry when that happens09:47
seb128Ken seems to do the same09:47
LaneyYou could make the policy be that the runs have to succeed before a branch can be merged09:49
seb128yeah, I don't like rules for rules though09:50
seb128I would prefer if people would be reasonable and checked the results of tests and applied good judgement on whether the failure is real or flakyness/can be ignored09:51
seb128which I though we were doing09:51
Laneyme too09:51
Laneywhen I made that branch it was right to not have it, because we were on old upower then09:51
LaneyI should have been explicit because later on I forgot that this was required09:51
Laneyor I should have done what I said in my comment and made it dynamic somehow09:51
seb128yeah, no worry, mistakes happen09:52
seb128but we have too many red runs recently, we should try to get back to a better state09:52
Laneystart with this branch09:53
Laneydid you retry ci?09:53
seb128not on that one, on 2 others yes09:54
seb128larsu, libappindicator, lcov 1.11 needs to be added to the list, want to do that as well?10:00
seb128that "lcov_version_list="1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 1.10" coded list is stupid10:00
larsuseb128: ugh, right. I'll add it on the same MR, because seriously10:04
seb128larsu, danke10:06
pittiseb128: re; looking10:09
seb128pitti, unping, Laney did comment10:10
pittiack10:10
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mdeslaurseb128: hi!12:12
mdeslaurseb128: I got bored this weekend, and beat gtk3 xchat-gnome into submission12:14
mdeslaurseb128: want to give it a try? https://launchpad.net/~mdeslaur/+archive/ubuntu/testing12:14
willcookemdeslaur, blimey! :)  attente_ is looking at this as well - I'll ask him to chat to you when he comes online12:16
mdeslaurwillcooke: oh, cool12:17
xnoxmdeslaur: ++ awesome12:18
xnoxmdeslaur: i need to beat xchat-indicator into hexchat submission12:18
dpmhey willcooke, quick q: who's the best person to ask about issues with unity7 not loading after an upgrade to 14.10?12:18
willcookedpm, probably bregma12:18
dpmok, thanks!12:18
mlankhorstoh great, I found why intel rotation failed on utopic, this is going to need a sru I guess12:18
willcookedpm, I've seen a few reports of "blank screen after upgrade" but not with enough information to help us trouble shoot - have you got the problem?12:19
dpmwillcooke, not sure. What I've had on 2 computers is that after the lightdm login unity won't load the launcher or indicators. I can get it to load the launcher from a terminal, but not the indicators. I can consistently reproduce it, if it's the same bug12:21
willcookedpm, humm, sounds different12:21
seb128mdeslaur, cool!12:35
seb128dpm, what do you have in .cache/upstart/gnome-session-Unity.log?12:35
czajkowskiwillcooke: yup Simon Phipps was talking about that on my G+ stream recently about his upgrade not working out. think popey was going to give him some stuff to run and see if he could get more details13:01
willcookeczajkowski, yeah, I think this is a slightly different issue - but let's see...13:02
dpmseb128, here's the output of .cache/upstart/gnome-session-Unity.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8919020/13:04
Laneymvo: hey, if you have access to changelogs.u.c, would it be possible to add vivid to meta-release-development?13:05
Laneyalso, how's it going? :)13:05
mvoLaney: sure thing, let me do that now13:05
seb128dpm, hum, I don't see anything obvious in there...13:05
Laneycheers13:05
mvoLaney: I wonder if we have a upgrader at this point :)13:05
mvoLaney: not too bad, how are you?13:05
* Laney is porting $stuff to vte-2.9113:06
Laneya bit cold13:06
LaneyI'm being stubborn and refusing to put the heating on13:06
mvoLaney: yeah, cold here as well, I will upload a new apt soonish with lots of $stuff13:06
* Laney hopes the compiles warm your room up13:06
mvohaha, it does13:08
Laney\o/13:08
Laneycan you just do a trivial upload of u-r-u to get the upgrader?13:08
Laneyor is it more complex?13:09
Laneyhang on13:09
Laneyis that one going to be executed instead of my fixed version?13:09
dpmnp, thanks seb128 anyway13:10
mlankhorstit would, but it's easier to run the vacuum cleaner since it can use up to 2400w :P13:10
ricotzLaney, hi :), did you receive my question about vte2.91?13:11
Laneyricotz: yes but you went offline13:11
Laneythe upgrader uses this feature13:11
ricotzit would be better to adjust the "upgrade" then13:11
Laneyfeel free13:11
ricotzthen please leave it to use the old vte13:12
Laneyno13:12
Laneywe're not having two versions in main13:12
ricotzi ported this patch in the gnome3 too, but chpe explicitly asked me to drop it to use this library transition to get rid of this custom patch13:13
LaneyI would like that, don't get me wrong, I just don't think I'm going to be the one to work on it13:15
Laneyor at least not at the minute13:16
ricotzok, but you are currently preventing it to get "fixed"13:16
ricotzwhile readding this patch again13:16
Laneyno I'm not13:17
seb128that's called "not creating regressions for users"13:17
Laneyif someone comes with a fix for the upgrader then we can remove the patch13:17
LaneyI'm just not doing it, that's different from preventing it13:17
seb128and having a patch doesn't prevent anyone to work on a better solution13:17
ricotzalright then13:18
LaneyI know it's not the best but at least I'm actively working on porting software so that counts for something :)13:19
Laneyrelated: VMs on spinning rust drives are the worst13:19
Laneys/VMs on//?13:19
willcookeunrelated:  I had a tidy up yesterday and threw away a spindle full of blank DVDs.  I could replace them all with a cheapo USB thumb drive13:23
Laneymvo: had some questions ^ up there btw, didn't highlight you13:23
LaneyI don't know how this downloading tarball stuff works13:23
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mvoLaney: ups, sorry, missed the earlier question. its slightly more complex, but not really, I commited what needs to be done and will do a final test13:23
Laneybasically: how do I test?13:24
mvoLaney: its all part of bzr-buildpackage13:24
mvoLaney: oh13:24
mvoLaney: just run what is in README.devel13:24
Laneyoh yes13:24
mvoLaney: revno with the updated version is 284113:24
Laneynice, missed that, thanks13:24
mvoyw13:25
LaneyI guess I just run on utopic with -d13:25
mvoLaney: yeah, once its uploaded and the meta-release is updated that will be fine too13:25
* Laney goes to try13:25
Laneyonce the aforementioned zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzist-upgradezzzzzzzzzz finishes13:25
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mvoLaney: does it work for you? sorry, a bit busy with $stuff right now13:47
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seb128kenvandine, hey! had a good w.e ?14:12
kenvandineyeah, and you?14:12
seb128I did, thanks14:13
seb128kenvandine, content-hub questions for you ;-)14:13
seb128kenvandine, do you know why nothing is associated with videos?14:13
kenvandinegallery-app should14:14
seb128the other way around14:15
kenvandineah, picking14:15
seb128select a video in gallery, pick "share"14:15
seb128you get a screen "no handler"14:15
kenvandineoh14:15
seb128looks like you should be able to mms/facebook, same as photos14:15
kenvandinebecause we don't have any share handlers14:15
seb128we do for photos14:16
seb128shouldn't mms/facebook handle videos as well?14:16
kenvandinemms probably should14:17
kenvandinethe facebook app would need work to support it14:17
seb128k14:18
seb128speaking of facebook, I'm unable to share an image with it14:18
seb128picking "share" from gallery sends me to a webbrowser, that asks me for credential14:18
seb128if I enter my password I end up on my wall14:18
seb128but not with the image selectoed14:18
seb128if I go back to gallery and do it again it goes it loop14:19
seb128it->in14:19
seb128is that a known issue?14:19
kenvandinenot that i know of14:20
kenvandinesounds like an online-accounts issue :(14:20
seb128if I swipe back to gallery and try to share again it fails without saying anything14:20
seb128can you try on your device to see if you see the same thing?14:20
kenvandineseb128, not quite the same14:24
kenvandinedoesn't open a browser, just see a blank screen14:24
kenvandine../../../../lib/SignOn/identityimpl.cpp 96 updateState Updating state:  "NeedsRegistration" SignOn::IdentityImpl(0xb8b5a060)14:24
seb128shrug14:24
kenvandineis in the facebook webapp log14:24
seb128did you have fb open before?14:24
seb128does it do the same if you close everything and try again?14:24
kenvandineseb128, ok, it is different if i didn't have facebook open already14:26
kenvandineit just starts it14:26
kenvandineand doesn't load the share UI14:26
kenvandineWebApps API message received: {"args":"[{\"callbackid\":\"ubuntu-webapps-api0.26988044986501336\"}]","name":"ContentHub.onShareRequested","target":"ubuntu-webapps-binding-call"}14:26
kenvandineUnauthorize API call blocked: ContentHub.onShareRequested14:26
seb128k14:26
seb128so similar to my issue14:26
Laneymvo: not tested yet, sorry, went to lunch14:29
Laneywill do now14:29
mvoLaney: thanks, I run it now as well14:35
seb128kenvandine, do you think that mms should support videos then? where should that be reported against? the messaging app itself?14:40
kenvandineseb128, messaging-app14:42
seb128kenvandine, thanks14:43
desrthi hi hackers14:43
seb128hey desrt, had a good w.e?14:44
desrtyup14:44
desrtlearned django :)14:44
seb128kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/messaging-app/+bug/1325009 states that video was left out of rtm, fair enough14:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1325009 in messaging-app "support sending MMS for photos and vcards" [High,Fix released]14:44
desrtseb128: you?14:44
seb128desrt, stop spending w.e on the computer!14:44
seb128desrt, mine was good, some shopping, played tennis, went to the spa, relaxed14:44
desrtseb128: i needed to make the website for mekaro (our yearly ontario/quebec esperanto conference) :)14:44
desrtit's in toronto next year14:45
seb128nice14:56
seb128dear larsu, please make my indicator-messages clear sources once read again, thanks14:56
larsudear seb128, pretty sure I already did ?!14:57
seb128I wish launchpad was sending an email to say "new commit on that branch you reviewed"14:57
seb128larsu, looking ;-)14:57
larsuseb128: oops, usually I comment on the MR for that reason. Did I forget?14:58
seb128oh indeed, new commit14:58
seb128you didn't14:58
seb128I guess it's w.e backlog overlook fail14:58
seb128larsu, testing that now ;-)14:58
larsuthanks14:58
Laneymvo: seems to be doing things which are good14:59
* Laney proposes the branch14:59
Laneyalso, man, we didn't kill extras yet?15:00
ricotzhmm, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cssutils/1.0-1 seems to be completely broken15:01
Laneythere's a -215:02
ricotzalthough is transitioned to "release" while it isn't installable15:02
ricotzoh there is?15:02
Laneyalso, probably more on topic in #ubuntu-motu :)15:03
mdeslaurSweet5hark: are you going to upload lo 4.3.3 to vivid?15:07
Laneyxnox: how do I get to the vte widget in the installer?15:17
xnoxLaney: boot with debug-ubiquity on kernel cmdline; press ctrl-alt-t15:17
Laneyhmm15:18
xnoxLaney: or you mean, during installation click the expander on the bottom left15:18
xnoxwhich shows current apt progress?15:18
Laneyit's tailing a busybox log15:18
Laneyso probably the first thing15:18
xnox(well ubiquity progress, must use slow hardware cause the expander is only available during slideshow)15:18
xnoxLaney: what's the problem?15:19
LaneyI don't actually see where the slideshow one is done in code15:19
Laneyporting to new vte15:19
xnoxLaney: so the installer has multiple "major" sections. which are in practice "header", "main contents", and "bottom layer".15:19
mvoLaney: cool, if its looking good I can upload now15:20
attente_mdeslaur: i tried your testing ppa, looking good15:20
xnoxLaney: each are GtkNotebook, during slideshow we change main notebook to slideshow, and the bottom status bar from progress dots to progress info with the expander.15:20
attente_mdeslaur: was there any patch you applied to get the server list to fill the window?15:21
seb128kenvandine, Laney: is https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/84/testReport/junit/ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_plugins/SystemSettingsUpowerTestCases/test_battery_plugin_battery_hotplugging/ the issue with the new upower or flakyness/something else?15:22
kenvandinei fixed that15:22
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1390629/+merge/24115015:22
Laneysame thing, yeah15:23
kenvandinei'm going to try to make it check at runtime15:23
seb128thanks15:23
kenvandinei guess i can do that with python and the gir15:23
Laneymvo: best if you do your upload, need to port ubiquity / package new gnome-terminal so that we can swap the main/universe versions of vte15:27
mvoLaney: happy to do that15:27
Laneymight not be done today15:27
Laneybut if you want to check it out: lp:~laney/ubuntu-release-upgrader/vte2.9115:28
mdeslaurattente_: hrm, I don't recall that15:29
mdeslaurattente_: in the connect dialog?15:30
mvoLaney: cool, looks fine, assuming you tested it?15:30
Laneyyeah running an upgrade now, seems to be working15:31
mvo\o/15:31
attente_mdeslaur: yeah, when i was running xchat-gnome and gtk+ from master, the server list is only tall enough for showing two networks at a time15:32
attente_but running your xchat-gnome against gtk master displays them all15:32
mdeslaurattente_: oh, yeah, there's a patch called 01_finish_gtk3_port.patch in there15:32
mdeslaurattente_: I think that fixes that particular dialog15:33
mdeslaurattente_: do you have anything else to add to that package? I'd file upstream bugs and send my patches, and I'd upload it to vivid15:34
attente_mdeslaur: nothing to add, could you please let me know the bug number when you upstream it?15:37
mdeslaurattente_: sure. I'll file 3 or 4 of them, will update the patch headers, and will let you know15:38
attente_mdeslaur: thanks!15:38
seb128kenvandine, content-hub doesn't support random mimetypes atm right? (asking in the context of opening e.g a pdf from email)15:43
seb128kenvandine, pitti, dpm, could one of you review review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-ui-extras/update-translations-template/+merge/241286 ?15:45
seb128it's a standard "set up for langpacks" change15:45
pittiseb128: replied15:46
seb128pitti, I usually do that because dh_translations do other things like adding the domain to .desktop, etc15:47
Laneybut you don't call dh_translations15:47
seb128doh15:47
pittiseb128: yeah, that ^ and I'm not sure whether unity8 can actually process the domain in .desktop files these days?15:47
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seb128k, so let's me change that15:47
pittiI think I talked about that with some unity developer the other day, though; it should definitively be fixed either way, of course15:48
seb128pitti, updated15:51
pittiseb128: moi aussi15:51
seb128pitti, danke :-)15:52
kenvandineseb128, it doesn't support random mimetypes yet15:53
kenvandineseb128, but the browser does support downloading a pdf i think15:53
kenvandineif you have pdfjsviewer installed15:53
kenvandinefrom the click store15:53
seb128I've that installed15:53
seb128I tried to open a pdf from dekko15:54
seb128the file-manager doesn't have a "open" either15:54
mdeslaurattente_: ok, filed 739895, 739896, 739897, 739898, 739901, 73990216:15
attente_mdeslaur: thanks!16:23
seb128bregma, hey, I noticed https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/overlay-scrollbar/hidpi-support/+merge/214283 ... is that something you planned to land? it's hi-dpi work and approved, should probably be uploaded16:35
bregmaseb128, I believe there was a serious problem if scale factor >= 2, I'll have to have the work revisited16:54
seb128bregma, k, maybe the status should be changed away from approved then?16:57
bregmabschaefer, what was the real status of that MP ^^^ ?16:58
bschaeferbregma, o, umm yeah an issue with scale factor >= 217:02
bschaefergtk was doing something strange, layouts all messed up, event mouse detection all messed up (ie. you couldn't actually click on the scroll bar)17:02
bschaeferbregma, im not sure if Trevinho_ took a look at it or not17:02
seb128seems like it should be changed to work in progress then?17:03
bregmabschaefer, can we do as seb128 asks and retest on Vivid?17:04
seb128bschaefer trying to escape the question ;-)17:07
bschaeferbregma, yeah17:07
bschaeferseb128, no mir took over the tty :(17:07
bschaeferand hung my machine haha17:07
bschaeferseb128, yeah i would love to get that landed!17:07
bschaefersoo i can test it out again17:07
seb128thanks17:07
bschaefernp!17:08
dpmseb128, sorry, I was otp, but seems Martin already took care of the translations branch review17:57
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willcookeo/18:00
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seb128dpm, hey, thanks18:38
seb128dpm, do you know what's the deal with vivid translations? is there a long backlog delaying things to be imported?18:38
dpmseb128, they probably haven't been opened for imports. I'll talk to wgrant tomorrow morning18:39
seb128dpm, thanks18:41

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