=== jhodapp|sick is now known as jhodapp [05:45] Good morning [06:20] good morning! [06:32] hey larsu, wie gehts? [06:32] pitti: super danke! Und dir? [06:32] larsu: mir auch, danke; wir waren gestern mal wieder Badminton spielen und saunieren, es wird Herbst :) [06:33] pitti: ja, es wird echt kalt langsam [07:45] Hello, desktop! [07:46] always a good start when your system dies after resume with a ton of kworkers :/ [08:42] morning all [08:43] morning willcooke! === duflu_ is now known as duflu [08:44] hey larsu, good weekend? [08:45] definitely. Did (almost) nothing for two days. Felt great := [08:45] how about you? [08:46] I went to a 20 year university reunion in Nottingham. [08:46] I'm still hung over [08:46] too old. [08:46] haha, sounds like you had a lot of fun there ;) [08:47] it was great to see people again after such a long time. [08:48] I can only imagine... :P [08:48] ha! [08:48] but yeah, I had the same feeling at my 10 year high-school reunion [08:48] good morning desktopers [08:48] made me feel old [08:48] :D [08:48] hey seb128 [08:49] hey larsu willcooke [08:49] * larsu waves to seb128 [08:49] hey seb128 [08:49] hey pitti, wie gehts? [08:51] seb128: sehr gut, danke! wir haben gestern das erste Mal wieder Badminton gespielt und sind in die Sauna gegangen :) [08:52] seb128: and we've been to the stadium on Saturday, that was fun! [08:53] seb128, i'm about to offline, but can you take another look at what is being done with gnome-media [08:57] Noskcaj, I've no real interest in gnome-media [08:57] pitti, sounds like a fun w.e :-=) [09:00] seb128: oui ! [09:05] pitti: setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH and GI_REPOSITORY_PATH should be enough for gir apps to pick up a local library, no? [09:05] * larsu is doubting himself [09:06] larsu: yes [09:07] weird.... [09:07] but thanks :) [09:10] yo yo [09:10] * Laney regrets making the dentist appointment so early [09:11] good morning Laney. Toothache? [09:11] nope, annual check up [09:11] good to hear :) [09:11] good weekend? [09:11] willcooke was in town? [09:11] awesome, ya. Very relaxing [09:11] you? [09:12] not bad [09:12] furniture shopping ... [09:12] maybe that is bad ... [09:12] hey Laney, wie gehts? [09:13] Laney: lol. That's good. Could use some of this myself [09:13] but I'm always too lazy [09:14] I've been trying and failing to delegate [09:14] yo seb128, prima danke! [09:14] schönes wochenende? [09:15] * Laney retrieves his cold breakfast [09:15] damn you extra 15 minute lie in [09:16] Laney, I went to Oceana(?) :((((( [09:16] my god [09:17] Laney, good w.e indeed ;-) [09:17] you were about 1 minute from the climbing centre though ;-) [09:17] I only went there one time, which was during freshers week [09:18] rock city was the place for me [09:18] Eeeee, in maaa day it were Ritzy. And beer were a pound a pint. I had to pay 8 quid to be let in, and a further 4 quid to enter the coat raffle [09:18] I hope it was everything you hoped for [09:18] and more [09:18] We had planned to go to Rock City but there was a gig on [09:19] shame [09:19] still, I don't have to go back in there for another 10 years [09:19] it should have been my 10 year sixth form/school reunion this year [09:19] but nothing happened [09:20] seb128: apparently for some people bug #1071738 is a big issue on the LTSs (I got a personal email about this last week) [09:20] bug 1071738 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "Indicator scroll event says direction UP on 12.10 even when scrolling down" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071738 [09:20] also, for reference: http://www.nottinghampost.com/Maggots-fall-ceiling-comedy-night-Nottingham-s/story-21754325-detail/story.html [09:20] seb128: do you think it could be SRU material? [09:20] larsu, sounds like SRU material yes [09:20] larsu, is that the issue you were never able to reproduce or another one? [09:21] larsu, wasn't Trevinho_ SRUing some of those? [09:21] seb128: no, I can reproduce it and just worked up a fix [09:21] seb128: he was? [09:21] * larsu saw no activity about that in trunk [09:21] larsu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindicator/12.10.2+14.04.20141007.1-0ubuntu1 [09:21] I'm probably confusing things [09:21] I was thinking about ^ [09:21] " * IndicatorNG: Reverse the scroll delta on left scroll events (LP: #1342731)" [09:21] Launchpad bug 1342731 in nux (Ubuntu) "Horizontal Scrolling over Indicator-ng (and sound) does not work as expected" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342731 [09:22] seb128: ya this is different. This one is becasue of an incorrect signal definition in libappindicator and only affects app indicators [09:22] *because [09:22] k [09:22] sounds like a good one to fix in the LTS yes [09:22] larsu, thanks for working on that! [09:23] pitti, is https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/libappindicator/lp1071738/+merge/241244 looking good to you? [09:24] larsu, did you figure out why it was not loading your local version? [09:24] seb128: I obvioulsy didn't test it, but LGTM, yes [09:25] pitti, danke [09:25] Noskcaj: If you do anything, get Debian to do the same please [09:25] seb128: yes, I built libappindicator, not libappindicator3 (didn't know we still had gtk2 support in there which is enabled *by default*) [09:25] larsu, I'm going to put a landing for it [09:25] Sounds like it could go away [09:25] larsu, then we can do a SRU [09:25] seb128: thanks a lot! [09:25] yw! [09:25] * larsu likes seb128's Monday morning speed ;) [09:25] lol [09:26] all that spa time [09:26] :D [09:31] Laney, pitti: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1390629/+merge/241150 ? did we overlook CI results to land the upower changes (just wondering why it landed if it made a test turn red) [09:36] I think that is required, would be nice if we can make it dynamic though [09:37] and I would guess that people aren't looking at the tests as much any more [09:37] why not? [09:38] we have tests we should be looking at those :/ [09:39] I can only guess but probably once it became acceptable for them to be 'unstable' (i.e. nobody fixed them up when that started happening) then reviewers expected that status and so didn't look when they saw it [09:40] shrug [09:40] it's not acceptable for them to be unstable [09:40] but point taken [09:45] for example https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-vivid/43/console which is linked from kenvandine's MP there is pretty bad [09:46] and I thought there were more tests than that... [09:46] hmm, timed out [09:47] yeah, the CI setup had issues in that run [09:47] usually I do a retry when that happens [09:47] Ken seems to do the same [09:49] You could make the policy be that the runs have to succeed before a branch can be merged [09:50] yeah, I don't like rules for rules though [09:51] I would prefer if people would be reasonable and checked the results of tests and applied good judgement on whether the failure is real or flakyness/can be ignored [09:51] which I though we were doing [09:51] me too [09:51] when I made that branch it was right to not have it, because we were on old upower then [09:51] I should have been explicit because later on I forgot that this was required [09:51] or I should have done what I said in my comment and made it dynamic somehow [09:52] yeah, no worry, mistakes happen [09:52] but we have too many red runs recently, we should try to get back to a better state [09:53] start with this branch [09:53] did you retry ci? [09:54] not on that one, on 2 others yes [10:00] larsu, libappindicator, lcov 1.11 needs to be added to the list, want to do that as well? [10:00] that "lcov_version_list="1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 1.10" coded list is stupid [10:04] seb128: ugh, right. I'll add it on the same MR, because seriously [10:06] larsu, danke [10:09] seb128: re; looking [10:10] pitti, unping, Laney did comment [10:10] ack === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:12] seb128: hi! [12:14] seb128: I got bored this weekend, and beat gtk3 xchat-gnome into submission [12:14] seb128: want to give it a try? https://launchpad.net/~mdeslaur/+archive/ubuntu/testing [12:16] mdeslaur, blimey! :) attente_ is looking at this as well - I'll ask him to chat to you when he comes online [12:17] willcooke: oh, cool [12:18] mdeslaur: ++ awesome [12:18] mdeslaur: i need to beat xchat-indicator into hexchat submission [12:18] hey willcooke, quick q: who's the best person to ask about issues with unity7 not loading after an upgrade to 14.10? [12:18] dpm, probably bregma [12:18] ok, thanks! [12:18] oh great, I found why intel rotation failed on utopic, this is going to need a sru I guess [12:19] dpm, I've seen a few reports of "blank screen after upgrade" but not with enough information to help us trouble shoot - have you got the problem? [12:21] willcooke, not sure. What I've had on 2 computers is that after the lightdm login unity won't load the launcher or indicators. I can get it to load the launcher from a terminal, but not the indicators. I can consistently reproduce it, if it's the same bug [12:21] dpm, humm, sounds different [12:35] mdeslaur, cool! [12:35] dpm, what do you have in .cache/upstart/gnome-session-Unity.log? [13:01] willcooke: yup Simon Phipps was talking about that on my G+ stream recently about his upgrade not working out. think popey was going to give him some stuff to run and see if he could get more details [13:02] czajkowski, yeah, I think this is a slightly different issue - but let's see... [13:04] seb128, here's the output of .cache/upstart/gnome-session-Unity.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8919020/ [13:05] mvo: hey, if you have access to changelogs.u.c, would it be possible to add vivid to meta-release-development? [13:05] also, how's it going? :) [13:05] Laney: sure thing, let me do that now [13:05] dpm, hum, I don't see anything obvious in there... [13:05] cheers [13:05] Laney: I wonder if we have a upgrader at this point :) [13:05] Laney: not too bad, how are you? [13:06] * Laney is porting $stuff to vte-2.91 [13:06] a bit cold [13:06] I'm being stubborn and refusing to put the heating on [13:06] Laney: yeah, cold here as well, I will upload a new apt soonish with lots of $stuff [13:06] * Laney hopes the compiles warm your room up [13:08] haha, it does [13:08] \o/ [13:08] can you just do a trivial upload of u-r-u to get the upgrader? [13:09] or is it more complex? [13:09] hang on [13:09] is that one going to be executed instead of my fixed version? [13:10] np, thanks seb128 anyway [13:10] it would, but it's easier to run the vacuum cleaner since it can use up to 2400w :P [13:11] Laney, hi :), did you receive my question about vte2.91? [13:11] ricotz: yes but you went offline [13:11] the upgrader uses this feature [13:11] it would be better to adjust the "upgrade" then [13:11] feel free [13:12] then please leave it to use the old vte [13:12] no [13:12] we're not having two versions in main [13:13] i ported this patch in the gnome3 too, but chpe explicitly asked me to drop it to use this library transition to get rid of this custom patch [13:15] I would like that, don't get me wrong, I just don't think I'm going to be the one to work on it [13:16] or at least not at the minute [13:16] ok, but you are currently preventing it to get "fixed" [13:16] while readding this patch again [13:17] no I'm not [13:17] that's called "not creating regressions for users" [13:17] if someone comes with a fix for the upgrader then we can remove the patch [13:17] I'm just not doing it, that's different from preventing it [13:17] and having a patch doesn't prevent anyone to work on a better solution [13:18] alright then [13:19] I know it's not the best but at least I'm actively working on porting software so that counts for something :) [13:19] related: VMs on spinning rust drives are the worst [13:19] s/VMs on//? [13:23] unrelated: I had a tidy up yesterday and threw away a spindle full of blank DVDs. I could replace them all with a cheapo USB thumb drive [13:23] mvo: had some questions ^ up there btw, didn't highlight you [13:23] I don't know how this downloading tarball stuff works === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:23] Laney: ups, sorry, missed the earlier question. its slightly more complex, but not really, I commited what needs to be done and will do a final test [13:24] basically: how do I test? [13:24] Laney: its all part of bzr-buildpackage [13:24] Laney: oh [13:24] Laney: just run what is in README.devel [13:24] oh yes [13:24] Laney: revno with the updated version is 2841 [13:24] nice, missed that, thanks [13:25] yw [13:25] I guess I just run on utopic with -d [13:25] Laney: yeah, once its uploaded and the meta-release is updated that will be fine too [13:25] * Laney goes to try [13:25] once the aforementioned zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzist-upgradezzzzzzzzzz finishes === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:47] Laney: does it work for you? sorry, a bit busy with $stuff right now === Guest6771 is now known as balloons [14:12] kenvandine, hey! had a good w.e ? [14:12] yeah, and you? [14:13] I did, thanks [14:13] kenvandine, content-hub questions for you ;-) [14:13] kenvandine, do you know why nothing is associated with videos? [14:14] gallery-app should [14:15] the other way around [14:15] ah, picking [14:15] select a video in gallery, pick "share" [14:15] you get a screen "no handler" [14:15] oh [14:15] looks like you should be able to mms/facebook, same as photos [14:15] because we don't have any share handlers [14:16] we do for photos [14:16] shouldn't mms/facebook handle videos as well? [14:17] mms probably should [14:17] the facebook app would need work to support it [14:18] k [14:18] speaking of facebook, I'm unable to share an image with it [14:18] picking "share" from gallery sends me to a webbrowser, that asks me for credential [14:18] if I enter my password I end up on my wall [14:18] but not with the image selectoed [14:19] if I go back to gallery and do it again it goes it loop [14:19] it->in [14:19] is that a known issue? [14:20] not that i know of [14:20] sounds like an online-accounts issue :( [14:20] if I swipe back to gallery and try to share again it fails without saying anything [14:20] can you try on your device to see if you see the same thing? [14:24] seb128, not quite the same [14:24] doesn't open a browser, just see a blank screen [14:24] ../../../../lib/SignOn/identityimpl.cpp 96 updateState Updating state: "NeedsRegistration" SignOn::IdentityImpl(0xb8b5a060) [14:24] shrug [14:24] is in the facebook webapp log [14:24] did you have fb open before? [14:24] does it do the same if you close everything and try again? [14:26] seb128, ok, it is different if i didn't have facebook open already [14:26] it just starts it [14:26] and doesn't load the share UI [14:26] WebApps API message received: {"args":"[{\"callbackid\":\"ubuntu-webapps-api0.26988044986501336\"}]","name":"ContentHub.onShareRequested","target":"ubuntu-webapps-binding-call"} [14:26] Unauthorize API call blocked: ContentHub.onShareRequested [14:26] k [14:26] so similar to my issue [14:29] mvo: not tested yet, sorry, went to lunch [14:29] will do now [14:35] Laney: thanks, I run it now as well [14:40] kenvandine, do you think that mms should support videos then? where should that be reported against? the messaging app itself? [14:42] seb128, messaging-app [14:43] kenvandine, thanks [14:43] hi hi hackers [14:44] hey desrt, had a good w.e? [14:44] yup [14:44] learned django :) [14:44] kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/messaging-app/+bug/1325009 states that video was left out of rtm, fair enough [14:44] Ubuntu bug 1325009 in messaging-app "support sending MMS for photos and vcards" [High,Fix released] [14:44] seb128: you? [14:44] desrt, stop spending w.e on the computer! [14:44] desrt, mine was good, some shopping, played tennis, went to the spa, relaxed [14:44] seb128: i needed to make the website for mekaro (our yearly ontario/quebec esperanto conference) :) [14:45] it's in toronto next year [14:56] nice [14:56] dear larsu, please make my indicator-messages clear sources once read again, thanks [14:57] dear seb128, pretty sure I already did ?! [14:57] I wish launchpad was sending an email to say "new commit on that branch you reviewed" [14:57] larsu, looking ;-) [14:58] seb128: oops, usually I comment on the MR for that reason. Did I forget? [14:58] oh indeed, new commit [14:58] you didn't [14:58] I guess it's w.e backlog overlook fail [14:58] larsu, testing that now ;-) [14:58] thanks [14:59] mvo: seems to be doing things which are good [14:59] * Laney proposes the branch [15:00] also, man, we didn't kill extras yet? [15:01] hmm, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cssutils/1.0-1 seems to be completely broken [15:02] there's a -2 [15:02] although is transitioned to "release" while it isn't installable [15:02] oh there is? [15:03] also, probably more on topic in #ubuntu-motu :) [15:07] Sweet5hark: are you going to upload lo 4.3.3 to vivid? [15:17] xnox: how do I get to the vte widget in the installer? [15:17] Laney: boot with debug-ubiquity on kernel cmdline; press ctrl-alt-t [15:18] hmm [15:18] Laney: or you mean, during installation click the expander on the bottom left [15:18] which shows current apt progress? [15:18] it's tailing a busybox log [15:18] so probably the first thing [15:18] (well ubiquity progress, must use slow hardware cause the expander is only available during slideshow) [15:19] Laney: what's the problem? [15:19] I don't actually see where the slideshow one is done in code [15:19] porting to new vte [15:19] Laney: so the installer has multiple "major" sections. which are in practice "header", "main contents", and "bottom layer". [15:20] Laney: cool, if its looking good I can upload now [15:20] mdeslaur: i tried your testing ppa, looking good [15:20] Laney: each are GtkNotebook, during slideshow we change main notebook to slideshow, and the bottom status bar from progress dots to progress info with the expander. [15:21] mdeslaur: was there any patch you applied to get the server list to fill the window? [15:22] kenvandine, Laney: is https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/84/testReport/junit/ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_plugins/SystemSettingsUpowerTestCases/test_battery_plugin_battery_hotplugging/ the issue with the new upower or flakyness/something else? [15:22] i fixed that [15:22] https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1390629/+merge/241150 [15:23] same thing, yeah [15:23] i'm going to try to make it check at runtime [15:23] thanks [15:23] i guess i can do that with python and the gir [15:27] mvo: best if you do your upload, need to port ubiquity / package new gnome-terminal so that we can swap the main/universe versions of vte [15:27] Laney: happy to do that [15:27] might not be done today [15:28] but if you want to check it out: lp:~laney/ubuntu-release-upgrader/vte2.91 [15:29] attente_: hrm, I don't recall that [15:30] attente_: in the connect dialog? [15:30] Laney: cool, looks fine, assuming you tested it? [15:31] yeah running an upgrade now, seems to be working [15:31] \o/ [15:32] mdeslaur: yeah, when i was running xchat-gnome and gtk+ from master, the server list is only tall enough for showing two networks at a time [15:32] but running your xchat-gnome against gtk master displays them all [15:32] attente_: oh, yeah, there's a patch called 01_finish_gtk3_port.patch in there [15:33] attente_: I think that fixes that particular dialog [15:34] attente_: do you have anything else to add to that package? I'd file upstream bugs and send my patches, and I'd upload it to vivid [15:37] mdeslaur: nothing to add, could you please let me know the bug number when you upstream it? [15:38] attente_: sure. I'll file 3 or 4 of them, will update the patch headers, and will let you know [15:38] mdeslaur: thanks! [15:43] kenvandine, content-hub doesn't support random mimetypes atm right? (asking in the context of opening e.g a pdf from email) [15:45] kenvandine, pitti, dpm, could one of you review review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-ui-extras/update-translations-template/+merge/241286 ? [15:45] it's a standard "set up for langpacks" change [15:46] seb128: replied [15:47] pitti, I usually do that because dh_translations do other things like adding the domain to .desktop, etc [15:47] but you don't call dh_translations [15:47] doh [15:47] seb128: yeah, that ^ and I'm not sure whether unity8 can actually process the domain in .desktop files these days? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [15:47] k, so let's me change that [15:48] I think I talked about that with some unity developer the other day, though; it should definitively be fixed either way, of course [15:51] pitti, updated [15:51] seb128: moi aussi [15:52] pitti, danke :-) [15:53] seb128, it doesn't support random mimetypes yet [15:53] seb128, but the browser does support downloading a pdf i think [15:53] if you have pdfjsviewer installed [15:53] from the click store [15:53] I've that installed [15:54] I tried to open a pdf from dekko [15:54] the file-manager doesn't have a "open" either [16:15] attente_: ok, filed 739895, 739896, 739897, 739898, 739901, 739902 [16:23] mdeslaur: thanks! [16:35] bregma, hey, I noticed https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/overlay-scrollbar/hidpi-support/+merge/214283 ... is that something you planned to land? it's hi-dpi work and approved, should probably be uploaded [16:54] seb128, I believe there was a serious problem if scale factor >= 2, I'll have to have the work revisited [16:57] bregma, k, maybe the status should be changed away from approved then? [16:58] bschaefer, what was the real status of that MP ^^^ ? [17:02] bregma, o, umm yeah an issue with scale factor >= 2 [17:02] gtk was doing something strange, layouts all messed up, event mouse detection all messed up (ie. you couldn't actually click on the scroll bar) [17:02] bregma, im not sure if Trevinho_ took a look at it or not [17:03] seems like it should be changed to work in progress then? [17:04] bschaefer, can we do as seb128 asks and retest on Vivid? [17:07] bschaefer trying to escape the question ;-) [17:07] bregma, yeah [17:07] seb128, no mir took over the tty :( [17:07] and hung my machine haha [17:07] seb128, yeah i would love to get that landed! [17:07] soo i can test it out again [17:07] thanks [17:08] np! [17:57] seb128, sorry, I was otp, but seems Martin already took care of the translations branch review [18:00] * willcooke -> EOD [18:00] o/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:38] dpm, hey, thanks [18:38] dpm, do you know what's the deal with vivid translations? is there a long backlog delaying things to be imported? [18:39] seb128, they probably haven't been opened for imports. I'll talk to wgrant tomorrow morning [18:41] dpm, thanks