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Kilosmorning all05:01
Kilosons is maar bitter min hier ne05:02
Cantideo.o05:07
Cantidehallo05:07
Kiloshi Cantide 05:07
Cantidehi Kilos  :p05:08
Cantidehow have you been?05:08
Kilosweirdest thing happening here, i auto join ##unavailable but its not in my list05:09
Kilosi been ok ty and you05:09
Kiloshi Tonberry gremble 05:18
grembleHey Kilos 05:24
grembleHmph. I am going down the EC in Jan and my mother is freaking out05:25
grembleI just want to take a greyhound down, and she is insisting that I take a flight05:25
Kilostell her busses cant fall out of the sky05:25
grembleShe heard that busses collide in the Eastern Cape, therefore all busses that drive to EC will collide05:26
Kiloslol05:27
grembleIt is like R525 for a bus and R1922 for a flight05:27
grembledoh05:27
Kilosfor how long are you going there05:27
grembleJust two or three weeks05:27
grembleVisiting a friend05:27
Kilosah05:27
grembleIf I go with SAA, it is R5k05:27
grembleAlmost 605:28
gremblef that05:28
Kiloswow05:28
gremblehaha05:28
Kilosi can buy lots of pc stuff with 5k05:28
grembleHmm. I am pretty sure that this website is lost though05:28
grembleAccording to it, it is a 5 hour flight from Lanseria to East London05:28
Kilosabout 1 to 1 1/2 hours05:29
Kilosmy sis flys from jhb to windhoek in under 2 hours05:29
Kilosdepending on head winds they say hehe05:30
Symmetriarebooting za.archive btw, should be back online in the next 4 to 8 minutes05:31
Symmetriawhich is how long that thing takes to reboot ;p05:31
Kilosthats fast Symmetria it was very sick yesterday, waiting for headers05:32
grembleAnother site saying that it takes 5 hours to get to EL05:32
gremblewhat the hell05:32
gremblehaha05:32
Symmetriakilos hrm, you shoulda messaged me if it was giving problems05:32
grembleThere are even flights where there are stops in05:32
Kilosi will if im not busy installing from scratch05:33
Symmetriagremble heh, lanseria to east london if you're on any form of decent plane takes no longer than an hour and a half05:33
Symmetriaheh, I flew joburg east london like 30 times last year 05:33
Symmetriaok its back online05:34
Kiloshi bduk1 05:34
grembleSymmetria: Here is a flight that takes 23 hours05:34
gremble:P05:34
grembleApparently there is a long layover in CPT05:34
gremblewhat the actual fuck05:34
gremble:P05:34
bduk1More Kilos  and others05:34
Symmetriagremble why not just fly direct via or tambo?05:35
Symmetriaheh and why are you going to slummies anyway :)05:35
grembleGoing to Port Alfred to visit a friend05:35
Symmetriathere is nothing there ;p trust me, I grew up in that shithole :) 05:35
grembleHaha I'm not going for the place05:35
gremble:P05:35
Symmetriagremble, why not just fly to port elizabeth then? same distance from PE to port alfred as it is from port alfred to east london05:36
Symmetriaand roads from PE -> Port Alfred are better ;p05:36
Symmetriaits exactly in the middle :)05:36
grembleThe map says no. Haha But I can try05:36
Symmetriagremble trust me, its dead centre, I drove that road allllll the time :)05:36
grembleIt is still R2k a ticket05:37
Symmetria2k return? that aint bad ;p05:37
grembleFor me it is05:38
gremblehaha05:38
Symmetrialol, well, by comparison with flying anywhere else I mean05:38
grembleHaha Ya. I think I will just take the bus05:38
grembleI can read, so the 14 hours really isnt that bad05:39
Symmetriaheh I did 29 return trips last year to kenya from east london, it cost the company who was paying for it 320 thousand rand all in all ;p05:39
grembleImpressive that you are worth that much to them :P05:39
Symmetriagremble haha, that excludes the 100 thousand dollars in hotel bills over the same period 05:39
grembleAnd your own salary05:39
Symmetriaafter that I moved to Kenya ;p 05:40
Symmetriagremble haha we wont talk about that ;p05:40
Symmetriaheh eventually convinced the company it was cheaper to just buy me a car in Kenya, rent me a nice house and have me live here ;p05:40
grembleHaha I wasn't asking about it. 05:40
grembleWhere in Kenya?05:40
Symmetriaand since company has crazy housing allowance policy that says no matter which country an expat is going to, the housing allowance is always the same, and they have people as expats in london, lol, the house I got in kenya is niceeeeeeeee ;p05:41
Symmetriaheh, Im living in Nairobi now 05:41
Symmetriamy house has 3 jacuzzi's in it ;p why? I have no idea, since I can only use one ;p but since housing allowances are always a case of, use it or loose it ;p may as well ;p05:41
grembleWho builds a house with 6 jacuzzi's?05:42
gremble3*05:42
gremblewow05:42
Symmetriahaha its got 5 bedrooms, all of them have onsuite bathrooms, and 3 of those bathrooms have jacuzzi's05:43
Symmetriaand lol even my office has an on-suite bathroom with a nice shower in it :)05:43
* Symmetria loves kenya ;p05:43
grembleYour wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend/realdoll must also be quite impressed05:44
grembleI should have kept with significant other 05:44
gremblewouldve kept that sentence shorter05:45
CantideKilos, I'm doing just fine :)05:48
Symmetriaheh fiance actually ;p05:48
Symmetriatalking about fiance, lol, I got my dowry ceremony on the 6th of december05:48
Symmetriaworried as shit about that05:48
grembleI dunno what that is05:49
Kiloshahaha05:51
Trixar_zaDownry ceremony? What does that entail?05:53
grembleIf I recall correctly, a Dowry is a gift that the husband to be gets along with the wife (Possibly because he needs to get paid to marry her :P)05:56
Kiloslol05:57
Kilosi thought a dowry was something the wife takes with her into the marriage05:58
gremble"something the wife takes with her into the marriage"05:58
Kiloslike a chest full of things05:58
Kilosor is that trouseau05:58
gremble"here, I come with this: Some plates, leather upholstry and a 3 month warrenty"05:59
Kilosya like that05:59
gremble:P05:59
Kilosused to be bedding and curtains and lots of stuff for the home i think05:59
Kilosand some cows and goats and chickens06:00
Kiloshehe06:00
Symmetriaheh depends06:00
Symmetriaon the culture06:00
Symmetriain African culture, dowry = labola 06:00
grembleStill looks like the husband is getting paid to take her off of her father's hands 06:00
gremble:P06:00
Symmetria= money paid by the guy to compensate the family for loss of income from the daughter :) 06:01
Kiloseeek06:01
Symmetriaand its complicated 06:01
Symmetriabecause the guy doesnt even get to be in the negotiations ;p the guy sends in a representative to negotiate with her family06:01
Symmetriaand is bound by whatever is negotiated 06:01
grembleLol06:02
Kilosgood way to get poor fast06:02
Symmetria(oh, and under kenyan law, the moment that ceremony is completed, you're legally married under traditional law, when you have your formal wedding etc, it moves from being a traditional marriage to a normal marriage, but you're still married after it)06:02
grembleIt is all interesting, but I don't do well with culture. 06:03
gremble:P06:03
Symmetriakilos lol, thats why I have a sane girlfriend with a sane family, she violated tradition and had a... quiet chat with her father and told him to go easy cause the money is coming outta the honeymoon budget ;p06:03
Symmetriastill end up costing 20 or 30 grand though06:03
gremblewoah good lord06:03
Trixar_zaWell, that's fast. A family member walks in, negotiates a sum and you instantly become married after that.06:03
Trixar_zaI'd probably freak out.06:03
Kiloshehe06:03
grembleI would freak out after the 4 0's :P06:04
grembleAnyway, cheers06:04
grembleI have to go write now06:04
Symmetriagremble haha, sanity prevails you're looking at 20 or 30 grand06:04
SymmetriaIve seen it go way higher than that though06:04
Kilosgood luck gremble 06:04
SymmetriaI know guys who have been into the 100's of thousands of rands ;p06:04
Symmetriawoman = bloody expensive ;p06:04
grembleI don't think I will be getting one of those then06:04
Trixar_zaEh, I realized that if I ever get a six pack abs, I'd probably go around and ask random strangers to feel them. So I might not freak out. I might freak out other people though.06:04
Kiloslol06:05
gremble"sir/madam, please feel my belly"06:05
Trixar_zaFat bastard impersonation while paraphrasing his line.06:06
Trixar_zaFee'l mah belly!06:06
Kiloswonderful to wake up in the morning to a storm and some rain06:07
Kilos3mm so far06:07
Kiloslooks like its coming from kenya06:07
Trixar_zaYou know, I just realized something. Mike Myers uses the same voice for Shrek that he does for Fat Bastard.06:07
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:09
ThatGraemeGuymorning all06:09
Squirmmorning06:10
Kiloshi Squirm 06:11
Symmetrialol06:27
Symmetriacheck this (if you have bandwidth)06:27
Symmetriahttp://197.155.81.5006:27
Symmetriathats the mirror now running at full tilt06:27
ThatGraemeGuy"if you have bandwidth"06:31
ThatGraemeGuyso.... nobody here basically :-p06:31
Squirmlol06:33
SquirmI'll bbiab - leaving for work06:33
inetprogood mornings06:36
Kiloshi inetpro 06:48
Kilos8mm so ver06:49
* Kilos bly06:49
Symmetriaheh ThatGraemeGuy probably need 2 or 3 mbit to view that url06:50
Symmetriagod, I've had to push ServerLimit to 16 thousand and MaxRequestWorkers to 16k as well06:50
Symmetriato keep up06:50
ThatGraemeGuyyou're using event MPM I assume?06:50
somaunnhi Kilos06:51
Kiloshi somaunn 06:51
somaunnwhat are the news here ?06:51
Kilosraining06:52
Kiloswhat is the news is the right way06:52
Kilosare is past tense06:52
somaunnthanks ...06:52
Kilosyw06:52
Kiloshows things youre side somaunn ?06:53
Kilosstill redhatting yourself through life?06:53
somaunnyeah better say drinking a cup of fedora 21 alpha06:54
Kiloslol06:55
somaunni don't have access to RHN network so i just gave up with RH 06:55
Kilosai!06:55
somaunneven tried CentOs but it's almost the same so i just gave up for now06:55
Kilostry kubuntu some time06:55
Kilosmorning superfly 06:56
somaunnbut Fedora fits with my needs06:56
Kiloskde fits everyones needs06:56
Kiloseven mine06:56
somaunnyeah Kubuntu.... will buy more data's and download it ... it's 1Gb size right ?06:56
somaunnKilos: you using KDE ?06:56
Kilosyeah 1.1 i think06:57
somaunnhello superfly06:57
Kilosyip on kubuntu here now06:57
somaunncool06:57
SymmetriaThatGraemeGuy yeah06:57
somaunnusing plasma 5 or kde 4.x.x06:57
Symmetriaheh ThatGraemeGuy we're running well over a thousand established sessions at a time06:57
Symmetriawhich is high06:57
Kilosi have no idea06:57
Kilosjust installed kubuntu 14.04 and use it like that06:58
somaunni was gnome addicted weeks ago and decided to give another try to KDE06:58
SymmetriaKilos the reason you were having problems with the mirrors yesterday btw06:58
Symmetriawas because I didnt have the connection limits high enough06:58
Kilosah thats good to know Symmetria ill change repos back again06:59
Kilostook like 5 mins each time it was looking for headers06:59
Symmetriayeah, its sorted out, the server was just choking under the number of hit requests with the apache config I had07:03
Kiloscool07:03
Kilosill ping you next time07:04
Kilossomaunn, if/when you install kde again look at this link07:12
Kiloshttp://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/07:12
Symmetriahrm, someone gimme sed regex to convert all upper case to lowercase?07:53
ThatGraemeGuydoes it have to be sed?07:58
SymmetriaThatGraemeGuy heh, something CLI hat I can do as part of a one line bash script07:59
ThatGraemeGuy$ echo "HELLO WORLD" | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]'08:00
ThatGraemeGuyhello world08:00
Symmetriathat would work :)08:05
Symmetriafor i in `cat tmp2 |awk '{print $2"."$3}' |tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]'`; do echo $i `genpasswd` | awk '{print("username "$1" group read-only-support\nusername "$1" secret "$2)}'; don08:29
Symmetria;p there we go08:29
* ThatGraemeGuy gives Symmetria a cookie08:33
Kiloshehe08:34
Symmetriahaha Im getting much bitching about that genpass 08:47
Symmetria;p08:47
SymmetriaI used tr to make passwords outta /dev/urandom ;p08:47
charlgood morning08:52
charlMaaz: coffee on08:52
* Maaz starts grinding coffee08:52
Kiloshi charl 08:52
KilosMaaz, coffee please08:53
MaazKilos: Okay08:53
charlhi Kilos 08:53
Kilosusing a lekker command here08:54
Kilossudo foremost –t jpeg,png,gif –d –o foremost –v –i /dev/sda708:54
charlwhat does that do08:54
Kilosalways before i didnt know it could do one partition only08:54
Kilosdata recovery on a partition08:55
Kilosa wiped zeroed partition08:55
Kilosgetting lots of messages bell in session shell08:56
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and Kilos!08:56
Kilosi made a major boo boo here08:56
KilosMaaz, ty08:56
MaazYou are welcome Kilos08:56
Kiloszeroed my good drive instead of the second drive08:57
Kilossata cables were wrong way around08:57
ThatGraemeGuywith great power comes great responsibility08:57
Kilosya tell me about it08:58
Kiloslol08:58
ThatGraemeGuyI think its too late for that, we've told you about it many times already :-p08:58
Kilosall my saved vids photos commands and packages gone08:58
ThatGraemeGuythis is why we do backups08:58
Kiloswell man i forget08:58
ThatGraemeGuythen you must forget about the data you lost too :)08:59
Kilosthats where my backup was too08:59
ThatGraemeGuythats not a backup then08:59
charlno that's on the same drive, what is the drive experiences epic hardware fail08:59
Kiloswell lemme explain08:59
Kilosthis is my new drive so i made a /storage partition at the end and have been bringing everything to there09:00
Kilosand had backup file there too09:00
Kilossigh09:00
ThatGraemeGuyhence "not a backup"09:00
charlthat backup has set sail for fai09:01
Kilosother drives all old ones that gave probs hence the many installs09:01
charl*fail09:01
Kilosill find most of the stuff that was there i think with testdisk foremost and scalpel09:01
ThatGraemeGuyi have a 1tb portable where my photos are stored09:02
ThatGraemeGuyi rsync that to my 3tb desk drive at work and also to my HTPC09:03
ThatGraemeGuyso backups are in at least 2 physically separate locations09:03
Kilosmy external packed up and was only 40g too09:03
ThatGraemeGuyit'll take a lot before i lose that stuff09:03
Kilosyeah09:03
ThatGraemeGuyi have other crap thats here there and everywhere but my photos are irreplaceable09:04
Kilosi used to rsync to the external09:04
Kilossame here i have some of family in the early 1900's09:04
Kilosalways before i used to unplug drives i wasnt working on but this time i forgot09:05
Kilosall my how to info hits the hardest09:06
Kilosmany years of help from the guys here09:06
Kilosforemost is finding lots09:07
Kilosfoundat=jsloader/resource/gre/modules/osfile/ospath_unix_back.jsmUT09:07
Kilosfoundat=Pictures/1000020100000448000002FA060F2981.png09:12
Kiloslots and lots09:12
Kilosbut will start saving for a new external methinks09:13
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: for important docs and things dropbox is also useful09:13
Kilosyeah its just the data thats stopped me using it09:15
Kilossame with u109:15
Kilosi only put stuff there i wanted to share09:15
Symmetriaheh, we're running 1.7 million hits a day on the mirror by my calculation09:27
Kiloswhew09:29
Kiloseveryone climbing in there looks like09:29
Squirmoops10:34
Squirmforgot to connect when I was at work :P10:34
Squirmso Hii10:34
Kiloslol10:37
Squirmhmm12:22
SquirmThatGraemeGuy: there's 1100 users on our site at the moment :P12:22
Squirmit's quite awesome to see12:23
Kiloshow the exam go gremble 12:49
ThatGraemeGuynice :)12:54
Squirmpeople are quiet here today13:49
Kilosyeah13:57
Symmetriawow14:14
Symmetriahow interesting14:14
Symmetriauniversity of the free state is doing more v6 hits to the ubuntu mirror server than everyone else on the continent combined 14:14
Kiloslol14:28
Kilosthats from us pointing to you hey Symmetria ?14:29
Kilosthey were going to do the deb-delta thing too the swines14:29
Kilosnow you got us working to you you can do it14:30
Kiloshmm... now he's hiding14:35
grembleI think I passed Kilos 15:14
grembleI hope I did15:14
gremble:P15:14
Kilosgood lad15:14
Kilosbetter to be sure though15:15
grembleI can't believe UP killed their *nix mirrors >.>15:15
Kilosmore studying overcomes the hope mode15:15
grembleWe find a couple of security flaws in their servers, point them out to them, suddenly we are the worst of the worst and now no one gets ubuntu15:16
grembleI don't understand the logic15:16
Kilosuse the main server its pointed to kenya wehich is lekker fast15:16
Kilosor ftp.wa.co.za15:17
Kiloshi SDCDev 15:22
Kilosare you clever15:22
SDCDevno :?15:23
SDCDevwhy :/15:23
Kilosi need to point scalpels output to somewhere else15:23
Kilosatm its in home i think but says the drive is full15:23
Kilosit lies15:24
gremblePipe it to /dev/null?15:24
Kilosi have no idea how to do that15:24
Kilosbut there is a conf file somewhere lemme look15:25
grembleI think with <command> &> /dev/null15:25
Kilosit could be using my root partition which is only 100g15:25
Kiloswhere is null?15:25
grembleOh, yes you do <command> > /dev/null 2>&115:27
Kilossjoe now im even more mixed up isnt | the null thing15:27
inetproKilos: that mysterious place on a computer where lost data goes15:27
grembleIt is in root, but it is a special empty file15:27
grembleIt is like a vortex in which you can throw all your junk15:27
inetproalso called the bit bucket15:28
Kilosthen my root is too small15:28
Kiloscant i point it to home rather, /home is 800g15:29
inetprothe null device is a device file that discards all data written to it but reports that the write operation succeeded15:29
Kiloseish thats no good man im trying to recover that data15:29
Kilosi want it i need it15:30
Kilosother wise i got to ask you guys for all the commands and how to's ive lost15:30
Kilosall the commands and advice since 8.1015:31
Kilosgremble can you explain that command for me please, im a mechanic remember15:33
Kiloscommand is the one i use right?15:33
Kilossudo scalpel /dev/sda7 –o scalpel15:33
Kilos&> means send to15:34
grembleYes, then that gives an output that should be caught by > sending it to /dev/null15:34
gremblethe 2>&1 tells it to catch standard error output15:34
grembleIf I understand it correctly15:34
Kiloscant i send it to my /home15:35
grembleIf you want to send it home, you can15:35
grembleI thought you wanted to throw it away15:35
gremblehaha15:35
grembleI have no idea what scalpel does15:35
Kilosno man i zeroed the wrong drive by accident15:36
grembleAh15:36
grembleNow I get it15:36
grembleYes15:36
Kilosnow i need that partition recovered15:36
grembleYou can point that wherever you want15:36
Kilosok lemme try the command15:36
grembleWhy don't you make a special file instead?15:37
gremble/home/zeroddrive15:37
Kilossudo scalpel /dev/sda7 –o scalpel &> /home/zerodrive15:37
Kiloslike that15:37
Kilos 2>&1 and that at the end15:38
gremblesudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o scalpel > /home/zerodrive15:39
grembleI would guess15:40
grembleI don't know how scalpel works15:40
Kilosty let me try15:40
gremblewait15:40
Kilosok15:40
grembleyou are writing to a directory called scalpel15:41
grembleit does not mean anything to the program15:41
Kilosscalpel-output15:41
Kilosin home . i see it under Desktop folder15:41
gremblesudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o <file you want to write to>15:41
Kilosbut ok ill try that ty15:42
grembleso it should be sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o ~/zerodrive15:42
grembleI thought mechanics knew about reading manuals :P15:42
Kiloslol you sound like the pro15:43
Kilosi dont understand man pages even15:43
grembleHaha. They are a bit dense15:43
grembleI'm just teasing :P15:43
Kilosyeah its me that has robs understanding serious geek stuff15:44
Kilosprobs15:44
Kiloseish now got permissions probs to delete it 15:47
Kilosgrrrr15:47
Kilosback to chown15:48
Kilosinetpro, how much rain you had?15:56
Kiloswe got 10 so far and weather man says lots more coming15:57
Kilosgremble, ty for the help, i will do that in future with scalpel and foremost as well16:09
* Kilos starts a new help from the guys folder16:09
Kilosinetpro, tonight/tomorrow temps 18/2416:18
Kiloswhen temp diffs under 10 degrees we normally get rain16:19
Symmetriahrm17:10
Symmetriasup17:10
Symmetriawho's awake17:10
Kiloslol what now17:14
Symmetriacheck this 17:15
Symmetriaaalston@mirror:~/temp$ ./timer /var/log/apache2/ubuntu-archive.log 1017:15
SymmetriaCounted 194 lines in the last 10 seconds [19.40/second]17:15
SymmetriaCounted 719 lines in the last 10 seconds [71.90/second]17:15
SymmetriaCounted 655 lines in the last 10 seconds [65.50/second]17:15
SymmetriaCounted 398 lines in the last 10 seconds [39.80/second]17:15
SymmetriaCounted 299 lines in the last 10 seconds [29.90/second]17:15
SymmetriaCounted 192 lines in the last 10 seconds [19.20/second]17:15
SymmetriaCounted 390 lines in the last 10 seconds [39.00/second]17:15
Symmetria(timer is some quick hack code I put together to check the lines per second in a specific time interval)17:15
Symmetriabut thats some hit rate17:15
Symmetria;p17:15
Kilosat least its not standing there rotting17:16
Kilosnow the server is really working17:16
Symmetriaheh basically stat the log file to get its size, sleep X seconds, seek to the old size point, and then run an recursive fgets() to get a line count17:16
Symmetriahaha server utilisation is at 3% ;p17:17
Kiloswow17:17
Symmetrianot even close to working hard yet :)17:17
Kilosoh ya Symmetria what about a deb-delta server17:17
Kiloswill save everyone time and save mobile peeps lots of money for data17:18
Symmetriagotta get around to setting one up ;p17:18
Kilosplease do17:19
Kilosit will most likely cut down the time peeps spend there downloading as well17:22
somaunnhi Kilos17:41
somaunnHi guys17:42
Kiloshi somaunn 17:42
somaunnI'm back 17:42
somaunnthe day was ectik17:42
Kiloswhew17:43
somaunnhow is that word supposed to be writen ??? lol17:44
somaunnHectik or Ectik17:44
Kiloshectic17:44
somaunnDankie 17:44
somaunnDankie Kilos17:44
Kilospleasure17:44
Symmetriaheh somaunn where in Congo are you?17:44
Kiloswhew you learning afrikaans too17:44
SymmetriaKinshasa? Lombombashi? Goma?17:44
somaunnSymmetria: i'm in Congo Brazzaville17:45
Symmetriaaahhh other congo :)17:45
Symmetriasorry I was reading wrong on the info :)17:45
somaunnKilos: i know some Afrikaans words broer17:46
Kiloslooks like ya17:46
Kilosgood17:46
somaunnactually googling kubuntu 14.10 to see what's different and what's new17:48
somaunnKilos: hav you upgraded to kubuntu 14.10 ?17:48
Kilosno im going with lts releases17:48
Kilosso next one is 16.0417:48
somaunnKilos: you only move from LTS to LTS right ?17:49
Kilosyeah i decided its better for me when it comes to mobile data usage17:50
somaunnokay i see17:51
somaunnyeah Kilos you right17:51
somaunnhonnestly Plasma 5 is a success 17:51
Kilosyeah starting from scratch every six months is expensive17:51
somaunnit's another feeling than what i've been experienceing with Gnome up to know17:52
Kilosnow i can go three years and get next lts by the time its stable already17:52
Kilosand all bugs fixed17:53
somaunnEk sien17:55
Squirmhi18:36
Kiloshi Squirm 18:52
z3r009place seems dead.18:54
Kiloshi z3r009 18:54
z3r009surp.18:54
Kiloseveryone is working18:54
Squirmit is18:55
Squirmpeeople are away18:55
Squirm:/18:55
z3r009i guess it can't be helped.18:57
Kilosyeah18:57
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za z3r009 18:57
Kilosdo you need linux help?18:58
z3r009nah, I just came to see what I might learn just hanging around here.18:58
z3r009i was also surprised by the za. so i thought i'd check it out.18:59
Kilosthen hang daily. every now and again something interesting pops up18:59
Kilosza=zuid afrika18:59
grembleLike me19:05
Kiloshehe19:08
somaunnI'm back 19:20
Kiloswb somaunn 19:20
somaunnthanks19:21
somaunnwat ons reeds gepraat19:23
Kilosim lost19:24
somaunnwat ons praat oor al19:24
somaunngoogle was my friend for that firts sentence19:25
Kilossay it in english then ill give you the right sentence to use19:25
somaunnwhat where we talking about ?19:26
Kiloswaarvan het ons gepraat19:26
Kilosor19:26
Kiloswaar oor het ons gepraat19:26
Kilosyou were talking about plasma519:27
somaunnyeah19:30
somaunnto be implemented only with UB 15.0419:31
Squirmdoes anyone here do MDM19:31
Kilosthey still have to get systemd and mir stable too dont they19:32
Kilosor is that sorted19:32
grembleMDM is drugs?19:33
gremblehaha19:33
grembleI should check what packages I have installed on this system. I suspect that there is a bunch of bullshit :P19:33
Kilosgremble, you the maths guy hey?19:34
grembleDepends who is asking, Kilos 19:34
Kiloswhy is it more likely to rain if max/min temps are less than 10 degrees19:34
Kilosme man19:35
gremble:P So you ask me if I can do maths, then you ask me a metereological question? :P19:35
Kilosthere must be a mathematical explanation19:36
Kiloseverythings is maths isnt it19:36
grembleMore probably a physics explanation. Mathematics is the study of abstract structures :P19:36
grembleI think it has to do with the rate of condensation19:37
Kilosah19:37
grembleIf it condensates quickly, the rain is able to persipitate19:37
grembleIf it is slow, it gets blown away and turned into water vapour again19:37
Kilosso will it condense quick with a narrow temp diffs19:37
grembleI may be lying to you completely as well. Haha.  I haven't attended a Climate and Weather course yet. Probably next year though19:38
Kilosquicker19:38
grembleThere is a girl that does differential equations with me that does climate and weather 19:38
Kiloslol19:38
gremble;)19:38
Kiloscool smile nicely at her then pop the question19:39
Kilosand paste the answer on slexy.org19:39
Squirmgnight20:10
Kilosnight Squirm 20:44
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:58

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