[05:01] morning all [05:02] ons is maar bitter min hier ne [05:07] o.o [05:07] hallo [05:07] hi Cantide [05:08] hi Kilos :p [05:08] how have you been? [05:09] weirdest thing happening here, i auto join ##unavailable but its not in my list [05:09] i been ok ty and you [05:18] hi Tonberry gremble [05:24] Hey Kilos [05:25] Hmph. I am going down the EC in Jan and my mother is freaking out [05:25] I just want to take a greyhound down, and she is insisting that I take a flight [05:25] tell her busses cant fall out of the sky [05:26] She heard that busses collide in the Eastern Cape, therefore all busses that drive to EC will collide [05:27] lol [05:27] It is like R525 for a bus and R1922 for a flight [05:27] doh [05:27] for how long are you going there [05:27] Just two or three weeks [05:27] Visiting a friend [05:27] ah [05:27] If I go with SAA, it is R5k [05:28] Almost 6 [05:28] f that [05:28] wow [05:28] haha [05:28] i can buy lots of pc stuff with 5k [05:28] Hmm. I am pretty sure that this website is lost though [05:28] According to it, it is a 5 hour flight from Lanseria to East London [05:29] about 1 to 1 1/2 hours [05:29] my sis flys from jhb to windhoek in under 2 hours [05:30] depending on head winds they say hehe [05:31] rebooting za.archive btw, should be back online in the next 4 to 8 minutes [05:31] which is how long that thing takes to reboot ;p [05:32] thats fast Symmetria it was very sick yesterday, waiting for headers [05:32] Another site saying that it takes 5 hours to get to EL [05:32] what the hell [05:32] haha [05:32] kilos hrm, you shoulda messaged me if it was giving problems [05:32] There are even flights where there are stops in [05:33] i will if im not busy installing from scratch [05:33] gremble heh, lanseria to east london if you're on any form of decent plane takes no longer than an hour and a half [05:33] heh, I flew joburg east london like 30 times last year [05:34] ok its back online [05:34] hi bduk1 [05:34] Symmetria: Here is a flight that takes 23 hours [05:34] :P [05:34] Apparently there is a long layover in CPT [05:34] what the actual fuck [05:34] :P [05:34] More Kilos and others [05:35] gremble why not just fly direct via or tambo? [05:35] heh and why are you going to slummies anyway :) [05:35] Going to Port Alfred to visit a friend [05:35] there is nothing there ;p trust me, I grew up in that shithole :) [05:35] Haha I'm not going for the place [05:35] :P [05:36] gremble, why not just fly to port elizabeth then? same distance from PE to port alfred as it is from port alfred to east london [05:36] and roads from PE -> Port Alfred are better ;p [05:36] its exactly in the middle :) [05:36] The map says no. Haha But I can try [05:36] gremble trust me, its dead centre, I drove that road allllll the time :) [05:37] It is still R2k a ticket [05:37] 2k return? that aint bad ;p [05:38] For me it is [05:38] haha [05:38] lol, well, by comparison with flying anywhere else I mean [05:38] Haha Ya. I think I will just take the bus [05:39] I can read, so the 14 hours really isnt that bad [05:39] heh I did 29 return trips last year to kenya from east london, it cost the company who was paying for it 320 thousand rand all in all ;p [05:39] Impressive that you are worth that much to them :P [05:39] gremble haha, that excludes the 100 thousand dollars in hotel bills over the same period [05:39] And your own salary [05:40] after that I moved to Kenya ;p [05:40] gremble haha we wont talk about that ;p [05:40] heh eventually convinced the company it was cheaper to just buy me a car in Kenya, rent me a nice house and have me live here ;p [05:40] Haha I wasn't asking about it. [05:40] Where in Kenya? [05:41] and since company has crazy housing allowance policy that says no matter which country an expat is going to, the housing allowance is always the same, and they have people as expats in london, lol, the house I got in kenya is niceeeeeeeee ;p [05:41] heh, Im living in Nairobi now [05:41] my house has 3 jacuzzi's in it ;p why? I have no idea, since I can only use one ;p but since housing allowances are always a case of, use it or loose it ;p may as well ;p [05:42] Who builds a house with 6 jacuzzi's? [05:42] 3* [05:42] wow [05:43] haha its got 5 bedrooms, all of them have onsuite bathrooms, and 3 of those bathrooms have jacuzzi's [05:43] and lol even my office has an on-suite bathroom with a nice shower in it :) [05:43] * Symmetria loves kenya ;p [05:44] Your wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend/realdoll must also be quite impressed [05:44] I should have kept with significant other [05:45] wouldve kept that sentence shorter [05:48] Kilos, I'm doing just fine :) [05:48] heh fiance actually ;p [05:48] talking about fiance, lol, I got my dowry ceremony on the 6th of december [05:48] worried as shit about that [05:49] I dunno what that is [05:51] hahaha [05:53] Downry ceremony? What does that entail? [05:56] If I recall correctly, a Dowry is a gift that the husband to be gets along with the wife (Possibly because he needs to get paid to marry her :P) [05:57] lol [05:58] i thought a dowry was something the wife takes with her into the marriage [05:58] "something the wife takes with her into the marriage" [05:58] like a chest full of things [05:58] or is that trouseau [05:59] "here, I come with this: Some plates, leather upholstry and a 3 month warrenty" [05:59] ya like that [05:59] :P [05:59] used to be bedding and curtains and lots of stuff for the home i think [06:00] and some cows and goats and chickens [06:00] hehe [06:00] heh depends [06:00] on the culture [06:00] in African culture, dowry = labola [06:00] Still looks like the husband is getting paid to take her off of her father's hands [06:00] :P [06:01] = money paid by the guy to compensate the family for loss of income from the daughter :) [06:01] eeek [06:01] and its complicated [06:01] because the guy doesnt even get to be in the negotiations ;p the guy sends in a representative to negotiate with her family [06:01] and is bound by whatever is negotiated [06:02] Lol [06:02] good way to get poor fast [06:02] (oh, and under kenyan law, the moment that ceremony is completed, you're legally married under traditional law, when you have your formal wedding etc, it moves from being a traditional marriage to a normal marriage, but you're still married after it) [06:03] It is all interesting, but I don't do well with culture. [06:03] :P [06:03] kilos lol, thats why I have a sane girlfriend with a sane family, she violated tradition and had a... quiet chat with her father and told him to go easy cause the money is coming outta the honeymoon budget ;p [06:03] still end up costing 20 or 30 grand though [06:03] woah good lord [06:03] Well, that's fast. A family member walks in, negotiates a sum and you instantly become married after that. [06:03] I'd probably freak out. [06:03] hehe [06:04] I would freak out after the 4 0's :P [06:04] Anyway, cheers [06:04] I have to go write now [06:04] gremble haha, sanity prevails you're looking at 20 or 30 grand [06:04] Ive seen it go way higher than that though [06:04] good luck gremble [06:04] I know guys who have been into the 100's of thousands of rands ;p [06:04] woman = bloody expensive ;p [06:04] I don't think I will be getting one of those then [06:04] Eh, I realized that if I ever get a six pack abs, I'd probably go around and ask random strangers to feel them. So I might not freak out. I might freak out other people though. [06:05] lol [06:05] "sir/madam, please feel my belly" [06:06] Fat bastard impersonation while paraphrasing his line. [06:06] Fee'l mah belly! [06:07] wonderful to wake up in the morning to a storm and some rain [06:07] 3mm so far [06:07] looks like its coming from kenya [06:07] You know, I just realized something. Mike Myers uses the same voice for Shrek that he does for Fat Bastard. [06:09] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:09] morning all [06:10] morning [06:11] hi Squirm [06:27] lol [06:27] check this (if you have bandwidth) [06:27] http://197.155.81.50 [06:27] thats the mirror now running at full tilt [06:31] "if you have bandwidth" [06:31] so.... nobody here basically :-p [06:33] lol [06:33] I'll bbiab - leaving for work [06:36] good mornings [06:48] hi inetpro [06:49] 8mm so ver [06:49] * Kilos bly [06:50] heh ThatGraemeGuy probably need 2 or 3 mbit to view that url [06:50] god, I've had to push ServerLimit to 16 thousand and MaxRequestWorkers to 16k as well [06:50] to keep up [06:50] you're using event MPM I assume? [06:51] hi Kilos [06:51] hi somaunn [06:51] what are the news here ? [06:52] raining [06:52] what is the news is the right way [06:52] are is past tense [06:52] thanks ... [06:52] yw [06:53] hows things youre side somaunn ? [06:53] still redhatting yourself through life? [06:54] yeah better say drinking a cup of fedora 21 alpha [06:55] lol [06:55] i don't have access to RHN network so i just gave up with RH [06:55] ai! [06:55] even tried CentOs but it's almost the same so i just gave up for now [06:55] try kubuntu some time [06:56] morning superfly [06:56] but Fedora fits with my needs [06:56] kde fits everyones needs [06:56] even mine [06:56] yeah Kubuntu.... will buy more data's and download it ... it's 1Gb size right ? [06:56] Kilos: you using KDE ? [06:57] yeah 1.1 i think [06:57] hello superfly [06:57] yip on kubuntu here now [06:57] cool [06:57] ThatGraemeGuy yeah [06:57] using plasma 5 or kde 4.x.x [06:57] heh ThatGraemeGuy we're running well over a thousand established sessions at a time [06:57] which is high [06:57] i have no idea [06:58] just installed kubuntu 14.04 and use it like that [06:58] i was gnome addicted weeks ago and decided to give another try to KDE [06:58] Kilos the reason you were having problems with the mirrors yesterday btw [06:58] was because I didnt have the connection limits high enough [06:59] ah thats good to know Symmetria ill change repos back again [06:59] took like 5 mins each time it was looking for headers [07:03] yeah, its sorted out, the server was just choking under the number of hit requests with the apache config I had [07:03] cool [07:04] ill ping you next time [07:12] somaunn, if/when you install kde again look at this link [07:12] http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/ [07:53] hrm, someone gimme sed regex to convert all upper case to lowercase? [07:58] does it have to be sed? [07:59] ThatGraemeGuy heh, something CLI hat I can do as part of a one line bash script [08:00] $ echo "HELLO WORLD" | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]' [08:00] hello world [08:05] that would work :) [08:29] for i in `cat tmp2 |awk '{print $2"."$3}' |tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]'`; do echo $i `genpasswd` | awk '{print("username "$1" group read-only-support\nusername "$1" secret "$2)}'; don [08:29] ;p there we go [08:33] * ThatGraemeGuy gives Symmetria a cookie [08:34] hehe [08:47] haha Im getting much bitching about that genpass [08:47] ;p [08:47] I used tr to make passwords outta /dev/urandom ;p [08:52] good morning [08:52] Maaz: coffee on [08:52] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:52] hi charl [08:53] Maaz, coffee please [08:53] Kilos: Okay [08:53] hi Kilos [08:54] using a lekker command here [08:54] sudo foremost –t jpeg,png,gif –d –o foremost –v –i /dev/sda7 [08:54] what does that do [08:54] always before i didnt know it could do one partition only [08:55] data recovery on a partition [08:55] a wiped zeroed partition [08:56] getting lots of messages bell in session shell [08:56] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [08:56] i made a major boo boo here [08:56] Maaz, ty [08:56] You are welcome Kilos [08:57] zeroed my good drive instead of the second drive [08:57] sata cables were wrong way around [08:57] with great power comes great responsibility [08:58] ya tell me about it [08:58] lol [08:58] I think its too late for that, we've told you about it many times already :-p [08:58] all my saved vids photos commands and packages gone [08:58] this is why we do backups [08:58] well man i forget [08:59] then you must forget about the data you lost too :) [08:59] thats where my backup was too [08:59] thats not a backup then [08:59] no that's on the same drive, what is the drive experiences epic hardware fail [08:59] well lemme explain [09:00] this is my new drive so i made a /storage partition at the end and have been bringing everything to there [09:00] and had backup file there too [09:00] sigh [09:00] hence "not a backup" [09:01] that backup has set sail for fai [09:01] other drives all old ones that gave probs hence the many installs [09:01] *fail [09:01] ill find most of the stuff that was there i think with testdisk foremost and scalpel [09:02] i have a 1tb portable where my photos are stored [09:03] i rsync that to my 3tb desk drive at work and also to my HTPC [09:03] so backups are in at least 2 physically separate locations [09:03] my external packed up and was only 40g too [09:03] it'll take a lot before i lose that stuff [09:03] yeah [09:04] i have other crap thats here there and everywhere but my photos are irreplaceable [09:04] i used to rsync to the external [09:04] same here i have some of family in the early 1900's [09:05] always before i used to unplug drives i wasnt working on but this time i forgot [09:06] all my how to info hits the hardest [09:06] many years of help from the guys here [09:07] foremost is finding lots [09:07] foundat=jsloader/resource/gre/modules/osfile/ospath_unix_back.jsmUT [09:12] foundat=Pictures/1000020100000448000002FA060F2981.png [09:12] lots and lots [09:13] but will start saving for a new external methinks [09:13] Kilos: for important docs and things dropbox is also useful [09:15] yeah its just the data thats stopped me using it [09:15] same with u1 [09:15] i only put stuff there i wanted to share [09:27] heh, we're running 1.7 million hits a day on the mirror by my calculation [09:29] whew [09:29] everyone climbing in there looks like [10:34] oops [10:34] forgot to connect when I was at work :P [10:34] so Hii [10:37] lol [12:22] hmm [12:22] ThatGraemeGuy: there's 1100 users on our site at the moment :P [12:23] it's quite awesome to see [12:49] how the exam go gremble [12:54] nice :) [13:49] people are quiet here today [13:57] yeah [14:14] wow [14:14] how interesting [14:14] university of the free state is doing more v6 hits to the ubuntu mirror server than everyone else on the continent combined [14:28] lol [14:29] thats from us pointing to you hey Symmetria ? [14:29] they were going to do the deb-delta thing too the swines [14:30] now you got us working to you you can do it [14:35] hmm... now he's hiding [15:14] I think I passed Kilos [15:14] I hope I did [15:14] :P [15:14] good lad [15:15] better to be sure though [15:15] I can't believe UP killed their *nix mirrors >.> [15:15] more studying overcomes the hope mode [15:16] We find a couple of security flaws in their servers, point them out to them, suddenly we are the worst of the worst and now no one gets ubuntu [15:16] I don't understand the logic [15:16] use the main server its pointed to kenya wehich is lekker fast [15:17] or ftp.wa.co.za [15:22] hi SDCDev [15:22] are you clever [15:23] no :? [15:23] why :/ [15:23] i need to point scalpels output to somewhere else [15:23] atm its in home i think but says the drive is full [15:24] it lies [15:24] Pipe it to /dev/null? [15:24] i have no idea how to do that [15:25] but there is a conf file somewhere lemme look [15:25] I think with &> /dev/null [15:25] it could be using my root partition which is only 100g [15:25] where is null? [15:27] Oh, yes you do > /dev/null 2>&1 [15:27] sjoe now im even more mixed up isnt | the null thing [15:27] Kilos: that mysterious place on a computer where lost data goes [15:27] It is in root, but it is a special empty file [15:27] It is like a vortex in which you can throw all your junk [15:28] also called the bit bucket [15:28] then my root is too small [15:29] cant i point it to home rather, /home is 800g [15:29] the null device is a device file that discards all data written to it but reports that the write operation succeeded [15:29] eish thats no good man im trying to recover that data [15:30] i want it i need it [15:30] other wise i got to ask you guys for all the commands and how to's ive lost [15:31] all the commands and advice since 8.10 [15:33] gremble can you explain that command for me please, im a mechanic remember [15:33] command is the one i use right? [15:33] sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 –o scalpel [15:34] &> means send to [15:34] Yes, then that gives an output that should be caught by > sending it to /dev/null [15:34] the 2>&1 tells it to catch standard error output [15:34] If I understand it correctly [15:35] cant i send it to my /home [15:35] If you want to send it home, you can [15:35] I thought you wanted to throw it away [15:35] haha [15:35] I have no idea what scalpel does [15:36] no man i zeroed the wrong drive by accident [15:36] Ah [15:36] Now I get it [15:36] Yes [15:36] now i need that partition recovered [15:36] You can point that wherever you want [15:36] ok lemme try the command [15:37] Why don't you make a special file instead? [15:37] /home/zeroddrive [15:37] sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 –o scalpel &> /home/zerodrive [15:37] like that [15:38] 2>&1 and that at the end [15:39] sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o scalpel > /home/zerodrive [15:40] I would guess [15:40] I don't know how scalpel works [15:40] ty let me try [15:40] wait [15:40] ok [15:41] you are writing to a directory called scalpel [15:41] it does not mean anything to the program [15:41] scalpel-output [15:41] in home . i see it under Desktop folder [15:41] sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o [15:42] but ok ill try that ty [15:42] so it should be sudo scalpel /dev/sda7 -o ~/zerodrive [15:42] I thought mechanics knew about reading manuals :P [15:43] lol you sound like the pro [15:43] i dont understand man pages even [15:43] Haha. They are a bit dense [15:43] I'm just teasing :P [15:44] yeah its me that has robs understanding serious geek stuff [15:44] probs [15:47] eish now got permissions probs to delete it [15:47] grrrr [15:48] back to chown [15:56] inetpro, how much rain you had? [15:57] we got 10 so far and weather man says lots more coming [16:09] gremble, ty for the help, i will do that in future with scalpel and foremost as well [16:09] * Kilos starts a new help from the guys folder [16:18] inetpro, tonight/tomorrow temps 18/24 [16:19] when temp diffs under 10 degrees we normally get rain [17:10] hrm [17:10] sup [17:10] who's awake [17:14] lol what now [17:15] check this [17:15] aalston@mirror:~/temp$ ./timer /var/log/apache2/ubuntu-archive.log 10 [17:15] Counted 194 lines in the last 10 seconds [19.40/second] [17:15] Counted 719 lines in the last 10 seconds [71.90/second] [17:15] Counted 655 lines in the last 10 seconds [65.50/second] [17:15] Counted 398 lines in the last 10 seconds [39.80/second] [17:15] Counted 299 lines in the last 10 seconds [29.90/second] [17:15] Counted 192 lines in the last 10 seconds [19.20/second] [17:15] Counted 390 lines in the last 10 seconds [39.00/second] [17:15] (timer is some quick hack code I put together to check the lines per second in a specific time interval) [17:15] but thats some hit rate [17:15] ;p [17:16] at least its not standing there rotting [17:16] now the server is really working [17:16] heh basically stat the log file to get its size, sleep X seconds, seek to the old size point, and then run an recursive fgets() to get a line count [17:17] haha server utilisation is at 3% ;p [17:17] wow [17:17] not even close to working hard yet :) [17:17] oh ya Symmetria what about a deb-delta server [17:18] will save everyone time and save mobile peeps lots of money for data [17:18] gotta get around to setting one up ;p [17:19] please do [17:22] it will most likely cut down the time peeps spend there downloading as well [17:41] hi Kilos [17:42] Hi guys [17:42] hi somaunn [17:42] I'm back [17:42] the day was ectik [17:43] whew [17:44] how is that word supposed to be writen ??? lol [17:44] Hectik or Ectik [17:44] hectic [17:44] Dankie [17:44] Dankie Kilos [17:44] pleasure [17:44] heh somaunn where in Congo are you? [17:44] whew you learning afrikaans too [17:44] Kinshasa? Lombombashi? Goma? [17:45] Symmetria: i'm in Congo Brazzaville [17:45] aahhh other congo :) [17:45] sorry I was reading wrong on the info :) [17:46] Kilos: i know some Afrikaans words broer [17:46] looks like ya [17:46] good [17:48] actually googling kubuntu 14.10 to see what's different and what's new [17:48] Kilos: hav you upgraded to kubuntu 14.10 ? [17:48] no im going with lts releases [17:48] so next one is 16.04 [17:49] Kilos: you only move from LTS to LTS right ? [17:50] yeah i decided its better for me when it comes to mobile data usage [17:51] okay i see [17:51] yeah Kilos you right [17:51] honnestly Plasma 5 is a success [17:51] yeah starting from scratch every six months is expensive [17:52] it's another feeling than what i've been experienceing with Gnome up to know [17:52] now i can go three years and get next lts by the time its stable already [17:53] and all bugs fixed [17:55] Ek sien [18:36] hi [18:52] hi Squirm [18:54] place seems dead. [18:54] hi z3r009 [18:54] surp. [18:54] everyone is working [18:55] it is [18:55] peeople are away [18:55] :/ [18:57] i guess it can't be helped. [18:57] yeah [18:57] welcome to ubuntu-za z3r009 [18:58] do you need linux help? [18:58] nah, I just came to see what I might learn just hanging around here. [18:59] i was also surprised by the za. so i thought i'd check it out. [18:59] then hang daily. every now and again something interesting pops up [18:59] za=zuid afrika [19:05] Like me [19:08] hehe [19:20] I'm back [19:20] wb somaunn [19:21] thanks [19:23] wat ons reeds gepraat [19:24] im lost [19:24] wat ons praat oor al [19:25] google was my friend for that firts sentence [19:25] say it in english then ill give you the right sentence to use [19:26] what where we talking about ? [19:26] waarvan het ons gepraat [19:26] or [19:26] waar oor het ons gepraat [19:27] you were talking about plasma5 [19:30] yeah [19:31] to be implemented only with UB 15.04 [19:31] does anyone here do MDM [19:32] they still have to get systemd and mir stable too dont they [19:32] or is that sorted [19:33] MDM is drugs? [19:33] haha [19:33] I should check what packages I have installed on this system. I suspect that there is a bunch of bullshit :P [19:34] gremble, you the maths guy hey? [19:34] Depends who is asking, Kilos [19:34] why is it more likely to rain if max/min temps are less than 10 degrees [19:35] me man [19:35] :P So you ask me if I can do maths, then you ask me a metereological question? :P [19:36] there must be a mathematical explanation [19:36] everythings is maths isnt it [19:36] More probably a physics explanation. Mathematics is the study of abstract structures :P [19:37] I think it has to do with the rate of condensation [19:37] ah [19:37] If it condensates quickly, the rain is able to persipitate [19:37] If it is slow, it gets blown away and turned into water vapour again [19:37] so will it condense quick with a narrow temp diffs [19:38] I may be lying to you completely as well. Haha. I haven't attended a Climate and Weather course yet. Probably next year though [19:38] quicker [19:38] There is a girl that does differential equations with me that does climate and weather [19:38] lol [19:38] ;) [19:39] cool smile nicely at her then pop the question [19:39] and paste the answer on slexy.org [20:10] gnight [20:44] night Squirm [20:58] night all. sleep tight