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bluesabredkessel: not yet... hopefully early this week03:58
elfymorning all08:40
ochosimorning09:09
elfyhi ochosi 09:11
dkesselmorning :)09:33
slickymasterWorkelfy, can you please try to reproduce bug 139112311:55
ubottubug 1391123 in abiword (Ubuntu) "abiword crashed with SIGSEGV in packspu_VBoxPackSetInjectID()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139112311:55
brainwashslickymasterWork: appears to be the same crash bug 138984012:00
ubottubug 1389840 in parole (Ubuntu) "parole crashed with SIGSEGV in packspu_VBoxPackSetInjectID()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138984012:00
brainwashcaused by the vbox guest additions12:00
elfymmm 12:06
elfywell - first log files appear to open with mousepad now - which is better and probably more expected12:07
elfysecond can't reproduce currently - will try with guest additions installe12:07
slickymasterWorkyes brainwash, apparently VBoxOGLpackspu.so seems to be the culprit12:07
elfyif it is another vbox bug then I am intending to completely ignore vb bugs this cycle :p12:07
slickymasterWorkthat seems reasonable elfy 12:08
brainwashor test without the guest additions12:08
slickymasterWorkbrainwash, testing without the guest additions is a nightmare as you only get a 800x600 screen12:10
elfyworks fine here with vbox 12:10
slickymasterWorkit could be something related to my vbox guest additions package 12:11
slickymasterWorkI'll download today's image at lunch and will reset a new box12:11
elfyI have 4.3.18_9651612:11
slickymasterWorkthis one is 4.3.1212:12
slickymasterWorkI'll also upgrade it12:12
elfyyep12:13
elfyand log files open in mousepad - must have changed - making testcase wrong - I'll follow up on that a bit later this afternoon12:15
brainwashbluesabre: will you fix the weather-plugin in precise? someone in my class was really upset about it not being fixed in precise yet12:41
brainwashI mean, precise is still supported after all12:41
bluesabrebrainwash: yeah, we can try to backport a brand new version to precise. It's been broken a lot longer since the code is completely different and it uses a different API12:41
knomeplease keep in mind that precise isn't supported for very long and adjust the amount of work you're ready to put into it accordingly12:42
bluesabrethat one won't be a patch unless somebody wants to write it, will try to release the new version instead... that might introduce more regressions12:42
bluesabredkessel: let me know if there are any hooks or anything that need to be added to catfish, or if the updated widget names should be enough.  Will try to get to that tonight as possible12:43
brainwashsadly we cannot force people to upgrade to 14.0412:44
bluesabrebrainwash: but we can advise that they transition to it before 12.04 becomes EOL12:44
bluesabreheading out now, bbl12:45
knomebrainwash, we cannot force people to not use xubuntu 9.10 either, but that doesn't mean we should support/fix a broken application in it12:45
ochosii guess the main point is that we're talking about a *weather* plugin for the panel12:48
knomei don't know what that was supposed to mean :)12:48
knome(whether you thought it's important, or not)12:48
ochosiit's really not our core interest, we don't ship it in our default install and people can still do pretty much everything with their systems without it12:49
brainwashnah, the point is that it's fixed in trusty and newer, that's the reason why a person complained about it12:50
brainwashhe still uses precise12:50
brainwashslickymasterWork: what happened to your abiword crash report? :D12:53
slickymasterWorkpenalvch blew it :P12:54
brainwashmaybe you should assign the parole one to vbox and mark the abiword one as duplicate12:55
brainwashsome vbox dev needs to get involved here12:56
knomebrainwash, maybe you really should get the bug team membership...12:56
slickymasterWorkyeah, that sounds like a sane plan12:56
slickymasterWorklol12:56
brainwashhmpf12:56
slickymasterWorkhey knome 12:56
elfymaybe you should wait and see if you can reproduce on newer vbox :)12:57
* slickymasterWork is now known as the depinkifier man12:57
slickymasterWorkof course elfy ;)12:58
knome:P12:58
elfyjust run the mime testcase and passed it ;)13:00
elfydepinkify \o/13:01
dkesselbluesabre: I guess the widget names should be enough13:53
jjfrv8elfy, I think I found a bug in xfce4-mime-settings while doing the testcase. Do you know how I file a bug against that? It's not a package.14:08
brainwashjjfrv8: it's part of xfce4-settings14:12
brainwashand don't forget to forward the bug to the upstream bug tracker :)14:13
jjfrv8Thx.14:16
brainwashmaybe it's even a known issue14:16
jjfrv8maybe but I confirmed it was not present in Trusty14:17
ochosijust received the news that status.ubuntu.com will be live soon for 15.0414:31
jjfrv8reported bug 139118414:54
ubottubug 1391184 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "MIME type change incorrectly shows as Default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139118414:54
slickymasterWorkso, elfy I'm not sure to what part of the test is jjfrv8 referring in bug 139118418:08
ubottubug 1391184 in xfce4-settings "MIME type change incorrectly shows as Default" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139118418:08
slickymasterWorkdo you think he is referring to this section of the test: "This test will check that MIME Type Editor will correctly display a file association changed with another application"?18:09
slickymasterWorkeric_the_idiot:  ^^18:09
slickymasterWorkups, not eric_the_idiot you crazy autocomplete, it's elfy 18:10
knomeboth idiot and crazy?18:10
* knome hides18:10
elfywhen you change app - it sets that field to something other than default - used to say User Set18:10
elfynow it doesn't - whether that is a bug or new behaviour I've not looked at yet18:10
elfyI am18:11
slickymasterWorkbecause if it's that, whatI'm getting is yeah, but in step 2 if that section what I'm getting is Mousepad, not Abiword18:11
elfyidiot for putting up with the crazies :)18:11
elfyslickymasterWork: well - I don't know as I haven't nor am I intending too, memorised the testcases :)18:12
slickymasterWorkbecause if it's that section, what I'm getting is Mousepad, not Abiword18:12
elfyand I'm not looking right now - time for food approacheth18:12
slickymasterWorkmy doubt is if whether I should comment it on his report, or not18:12
elfycomment all you want :)18:15
elfymake sure to read the 4500 word bug reporting wiki first though :D18:15
slickymasterWorklol18:15
slickymasterWorkso, in your opinion it's the same bug?18:15
slickymasterWorkonly a slight variation 18:16
elfyslickymasterWork: I don't know - I've not had time to look yet :)18:17
slickymasterWorkok, I'll comment on his report18:17
slickymasterWorkknome, your intended fiddling on the ubiquity slideshow will just cover the artwork, right?18:41
knomeslickymasterWork, there's another work item for the content if you look really closely :)18:42
slickymasterWorkhmmm, now I see it18:42
slickymasterWorkyou go out of your way to keep me busy :P18:43
knome;)18:44
* slickymasterWork resolves to reciprocate to knome remembering him about the stats of the finnish -docs translation, 96%18:46
knomesince you're going to mess it up before the end of the cycle anyway, i'll just leave it at 96% for now just to tease you ;)18:47
slickymasterWorklmao18:48
elfyhttp://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-v/group/topic-v-flavor-xubuntu.html20:10
knomenice :)20:18
elfyslickymaster: I've confirmed jjfrv8's mimetype bug20:32
ochosihttp://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-v/group/topic-v-flavor-xubuntu.html20:40
ochosioh, elfy already pasted it :)20:40
knomehaha:)20:40
knomehello ochosi 20:40
Unit193Still very much on screen too. :P20:40
ochosiwe're pretty much on track for the moment20:40
ochosihey knome 20:40
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knomeof course we are, the tracking started today, so everything that is done before today isn't even counted20:40
* ochosi votes for restarting the tracker on a daily basis20:41
knomehah20:42
* elfy votes for turning them off :)20:45
ochosielfy: indicators still broken in V?20:45
elfynot seen a recent repetition ochosi 20:46
ochosiyou mean they're working again?20:47
elfyit's on my radar - I will say if I see it20:47
elfystill get odd gtk2ish qt for a short while - changing desktop back and forth resets that for some reason20:47
ochosihm, odd20:47
ochosiwell good if the indicators load again20:48
ochosiat least for now20:48
ochosiguess we have to test the qt thing more20:48
knomeelfy, i know you're seeing it, but for the record, #ubuntu-quality (and for slickymaster too)20:48
elfyindicators work 20:48
elfyiirc I got some updates after seeing it the last time20:49
ochosiok20:49
elfyknome: ack20:49
ochosiwas just wondering since it was still on the bugs-blueprint and all20:49
elfyochosi: well re qt - I can more or less constantly test any fixes re that - clementine is on all the time pc is on20:50
ochosido you test other qt apps than clementine too?20:51
ochosijust to make sure this isn't another xchat scenario :>20:51
elfyochosi: well - we can remove it if we need - but it's not hurting anything by being there imo20:51
elfynot as a rule20:52
elfygot something I could use :D20:52
ochosisure, let's leave it on there for now20:52
ochosino rush20:52
elfyoh yea - that's the bug someone else marked as a dupe 20:53
elfyof a Private one20:53
ochosihumm, quick question20:59
ochosiis the ubuntu software center really up for discussion?21:00
ochosi(i just noticed it on the features blueprint right now for the first time)21:00
elfyno idea?21:00
elfynot seen anything about that - other than a general thing the other day21:01
ochosiyeah, that mailinglist-discussion isn't a valid basis for a workitem imo21:02
ochosiotherwise we'd have libreoffice on there 21:02
ochosi*every* cycle21:02
elfyisn't lo on there?21:02
elfy:p21:03
ochosimeh, why don't blueprints have a history...21:04
ochosiskellat: just curious, did you add the workitem for reviewing USC?21:05
elfytalking of discussions - dkessel if you decide to do anything re deja-dup I did some screenies of it and grsync and some memory figures and the extra packages installed21:05
elfyochosi: blueprint history is on mailing list - not easy though21:05
elfyand yes it was skellat 28/10 21:08
ochosik, thanks elfy21:09
elfyftr even though I don't use it myself - I see no real reason to go backwards21:11
ochosigo backwards on what?21:11
ochosiUSC?21:11
elfyyea21:11
ochosiskellat: ok, now that we've cleared that, may i ask why you added the workitem exactly?21:11
ochosielfy: yeah, me neither. and that ML discussion didn't suggest it'd make any sense tbh21:12
elfyyep21:12
knomei don't use USC either, but i don't think removing that and bringing synaptic back is the right thing either21:12
elfyI install synaptic - but mostly because I'm too lazy to be worrying about removing the wrong kernels in terminal :)21:14
knomei just remove USC and use apt-get21:14
knomeelfy, apt-get --purge autoremove :)21:14
elfyI don't remove it - I check now again that it *works* 21:15
knome;)21:15
elfyno idea why I bother tbh - I guess ubuntu check it somewhere :)21:18
ochosione would hope so21:18
elfyso - back to qt - no idea what qt apps I could use to check it's not just clementine failing 21:18
elfyand no I'm not using vlc 21:18
elfyheh21:19
elfyor should that be "one would hope not" 21:19
Unit193elfy: "I'm too lazy to be worrying about removing the wrong kernels" You hit the wrong one, it tells you it's the running kernel and asks you to confirm removal, fwiw.21:31
Unit193Skype is Qt too, but that won't help either...21:32
elfyso I'd have to do it twice - notice the lazy bit :)21:32
elfy:)21:34
slickymasterelfy, thing is that I'm not excatly seeing what you both see21:35
ochosielfy: yeah, i'm not using many qt apps either21:37
ochosiand skype is really a bad example21:37
elfyslickymaster: mmm - well 2 out of 3 do - this is when you change properties in thunar, then re-open mime editor21:41
elfyochosi: yea - not sure where to go with it tbh, I don't see many other's mentioning it - the bug where it showed up was the first time I'd seen it elsewhere21:41
slickymasteryes, like I commented https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1391184/comments/321:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 1391184 in xfce4-settings "MIME type change incorrectly shows as Default" [Low,Confirmed]21:42
elfymmm21:44
elfyI think something is being lost in translation here 21:45
elfyor we're talking about 2 seperate things21:45
slickymasterI think we're might be talking about 2 seperate things21:46
elfyif you change to abiword in mime editor - it sets field as user set, if you change in thunar it leaves it as default even though it says abiword21:47
elfybut if you change it without closing mime editor - it doesn't change in real time21:47
elfyone bit of the testcase works ok - the other doesn't 21:47
slickymastertbh I don't remember now whether I close it or not21:47
slickymasterbut I can do it again tomorrow21:47
slickymasteryeah, the second section of it doesn't21:48
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brainwashochosi: I was just wondering, why this report is still open22:44
brainwashbug 132522822:44
ubottubug 1325228 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "light-locker mutes audio on lock, does not un-mute" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132522822:44
brainwashit cannot be fixed22:44
brainwashat least not in the code of the current light-locker22:45
knomebecause somebody reopened it22:45
knomebrainwash, if you read the bug comments, you'd notice that it had been "expired"22:45
brainwashyes, soft closed22:45
brainwashwon't fix or invalid22:46
knomeeven if it was one of those, anybody could open it22:47
knomeit's invalid now22:48
brainwashyou cannot change won't fix22:48
brainwashok, thanks22:48
knomeyou can always file a new bug then, which is even more annoying..22:49
brainwashwhy would they file a new bug report? they can just add a comment to the exiting one22:51
knomebecause they feel wrongdoed since the bug is marked "wontfix"22:52
knomeit's not a rational thing they are doing.22:52
brainwashhopefully they manage to file the new report against the correct package then22:53
knomejust affecting the right package in the same bug would do22:54
knomeand no, i don't think they manage to do that22:54
knomeonce somebody has said it's a bug in A, they will insist that it's a bug in A until it's fixed in B, after which they don't care22:54
Unit193http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/ says to do one thing he did, "Add your user to the “audio” group on your computer and  music playback will continue also with light-locker"  (and yes, that double space wasn't added by me.)22:55
knomestop the press! there's a double space in the website!22:55
brainwashlight-locker caused much trouble, but it works fine for the majority of xubuntu users I'd guess23:00
brainwashknome: bug 1307929 any news?23:03
ubottubug 1307929 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "light-locker crashes on every unlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130792923:03

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