[02:52] <XF-er> koell, hard to change window decorations in xfce? you mean to install new ones? To simply change window decorations it's pretty easy. Whisker Menu > Settings Manager > Windows Manager, and then under 'Theme'. I find that pretty straight forward.
[02:53] <XF-er> koell, to install new window decs just download some for xfwm4 and throw them in ~/.themes ... pretty easy
[09:37] <soman> Why icons on my desktop is mixed up after every reboot? Their places are resetted after every reboot. Xubuntu 14.04.1, 3.13.0-37-generic, x86
[11:56] <pjotter> Hello people. What's going on with Xubuntu? Today, when I started my computer, the mouse pointer started te behave really weird, jumping over certain parts of the screen and stuff. Anyone knows what is the cause of this?
[12:25] <DomiX> hi
[12:26] <DomiX> I upgrade 14.04 to 14.10 and now the mnbu
[12:27] <DomiX> I upgrade 14.04 to 14.10 and now the menu wisker is just blank I can't click on it and now I can't ajust brightlight with fn+F9 or fn+F10 like before any ideas ?
[13:00] <caliber> hey guys
[13:01] <caliber> how can i install theams which i download
[13:02] <caliber> hello??
[13:03] <caliber> guys
[15:15] <xubuntu08w> Hi, I would need some advice on how to debug my boot log. At one point of it, my Xubuntu 14.10 detects USB devices and next entry in dmesg.log is after 10 minutes - init Error while reading from descriptor - broken pipe
[15:22] <Hedgework> xubuntu08w: if you'll pastebin the log, I'll try to take a look but i'm working so expect me to disappear repeatedly
[15:26] <xubuntu08w> Hedgework: Thanks - here it is   http://pastebin.com/EvcTq8M4
[15:38] <new> hello
[15:38] <new> i created an adhoc wireless ssid. every pc and mobile phones connects it but cant use internet
[15:38] <new> how can i enable internet sharing for adhoc connections
[15:38] <Hedgework> xubuntu08w: look at what piece of hardware might be identified as "plymouth-upstart-bridge" as something to do with that is going crazy and crashing.
[15:39] <xubuntuNiilo> hello could someone tell how to remove lubuntu netbook desktop with out removing lubuntu desktop and im using xubuntu
[15:40] <Hedgework> new: Bridging an ad hoc network to an infrastructure connection (such as the internet) is do-able, but you may have to hang out a bit to find out how.  I've never done it with the gui-centered *ubuntu workflow, only my CLI tools and such.  My method involves doing surgery on IPtables in ways you probably wouldn't be comfortable with.
[15:41] <new> i just used "sudo ap-hotspot start"
[15:41] <new> it cınfigured ssid name and wpa pass
[15:42] <new> every pc and phone connect ssid but no internet :(
[15:42] <new> i dont want to uninstall xubuntu and turn ubuntu
[15:43] <Hedgework> Well, ad hoc networks are just that, ad hoc...they don't connect to the internet unless you make a bridge to provide a conduit between the two.
[15:43] <new> no i did it on windows 7.
[15:43] <Hedgework> new: I'm hopeful that if you just idle awhile, someone who can walk you through an easy way to do that will appear.
[15:44] <Hedgework> Umm...why do you think you can get Windows 7 support in the #xubuntu channel?
[15:44] <Hedgework> new: there is #windows IIRC
[15:44] <new> no problem with win7 i can share all pc and phones
[15:44] <new> but i want to use xubuntu anymore
[15:46] <xubuntu08w> Hedgework: OK, I will try to find out. Also my HDD is (according to indicator) working all the time during the boot
[15:50] <Hedgework> xubuntu08w: weird.
[15:55] <tim^x230> Hi! I'm trying to bind the menu key to the printscreen key on my Lenovo X230 with Xubuntu Utopic. I didn't find any option in the settings section and setxkbmap -option prsc:menu doesn't seem to do the trick. Any ideas?
[15:58] <GridCube> prnt screen is already used
[15:58] <GridCube> you have to disable that first
[16:00] <tim^x230> GridCube: any ideas on how to do so?
[16:02] <GridCube> tim^x230: go to settings, keyboard, and the last tab is key binding, change the setting there
[16:06] <tim^x230> http://imgur.com/9qeCu8m I can only remove the printscreen shortcut under application shortcuts, i don't have a key binding tab :(
[16:10] <GridCube> tim^x230: yes, thats what i mean
[16:10] <tim^x230> Ah, maybe a small missunderstanding: I'm trying to map the menu >key< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_key to PrintScreen
[16:10] <tim^x230> "right click key" if you want so
[16:11] <GridCube> oh, right
[16:11] <GridCube> no idea with that sorry
[16:11] <tim^x230> np. thanks anyway :)
[16:12] <koegs> tim^x230: check Xmodmap
[16:14] <tim^x230> koegs: thanks, will read up on it
[16:23] <jurooo> Hi, I have a problem with firefox: I'm not able to load music on bandcamp.com sites (youtube works fine). I have already installed jurooo gstreamer ugly plugins as some archlinux forum threads suggest with no result, any ideas?
[16:28] <GridCube> jurooo: don't you jst need to have the flashplugin?
[16:29] <GridCube> :/ the site just works for me
[16:30] <Inoki> jurooo: definitely your client. I can play audio on Bandcamp just as easy as GridCube.
[16:31] <Inoki> jurooo: is it possible that you have an add-on installed that blocks flash and similar content?
[16:40] <xubuntu08w> Hedgework: Hi, it's me - slow boot again. I disabled plymouth, but it obviously wasn't the cause, because boot took 10 minutes again. Here is my new dmesg.log:   http://pastebin.com/CXMUsvT0
[16:44] <tim^x230> koegs: seems like i found a solution :)
[16:50] <brainwash> xubuntu08w: try to boot with all external devices unplugged
[17:05] <xubuntu08w> brainwash: That was this one - no devices plugged in
[17:06] <xubuntu08w> brainwash: And the last one too
[17:07] <brainwash> xubuntu08w: are you experiencing the long boot time since upgrading to 14.10? or after installing some updates/software/drivers?
[17:11] <xubuntu08w> brainwash: And the last one too
[17:11] <elfy> couple of recentish bugs re that
[17:12] <xubuntu08w> brainwash: Yes, it started after upgrading to 14.10. I know, that downgrade would probably solve it, but it is an overkill for me, right now. I keep it as a last resort
[17:18] <brainwash> xubuntu08w: maybe look at /var/log/syslog, it might contain some more log messages
[17:20] <elfy> I Think the issue is init: Failed to obtain startpar-bridge instance: - that's where it's hanging
[17:20] <elfy> bug 1295596 - but not a lot of help/information in that or the dupe - other than try mainline kernel
[17:21] <elfy> I guess you *could* try booting with systemd - see if you get the same issue
[17:23] <brainwash> also try to reinstall the upstart package
[17:24] <xubuntu08w> brainwash: Don't know what exactly to look for. In the boot time, there is a copy of what is in dmesg.log
[17:25] <xubuntu08w> brainwash: Reinstalling upstart now
[17:26] <xubuntu08w> elfy: Will try ASAP and watch the bug report
[17:27] <elfy> just try one thing at a time - if you're reinstalling upstart - see if that does it :)
[17:28] <brainwash> if it does not help, you'll have to wait for another 10 minutes for the system to boot =S
[17:38] <Tuna_> can I put latest xbuntu LTS on usb, and boot it on a uefi pc,(secure boot=0), shrink win partition, install xubuntu into the new free space, put grub on /sda, and dual boot?
[17:38] <holstein> !install | Tuna_
[17:38] <holstein> see also..
[17:38] <Tuna_> I don't know much about uefi
[17:38] <holstein> !uefi
[17:38] <holstein> Tuna_: nothing about xubuntu/ubuntu will prevent you from doing anything like that
[17:38] <Tuna_> Thanks!
[17:39] <holstein> Tuna_: it cant address limitations on your specific hardware situations
[18:30] <gregon> Hello everybody
[18:32] <gregon> Have encountered strange bug in fresh installed 14.10 in thunar. It simply ignores the "open with" setting. Couldn't google anything useful. Any suggestions?
[18:33] <brainwash> gregon: bug 1382977
[18:33] <holstein> TBH, i havent use "open with" in a long time.. can you try as a different user, gregon ? or the guest account.. to see if the issue is system-wide..
[18:33] <holstein> or, just ignore me.. ^
[18:35] <brainwash> gregon: you can enable the -proposed repository and install the updated package now, or wait some more days until it lands in -updates (normal updates)
[18:35] <gregon> oh, thx for fast respond
[18:35] <brainwash> :)
[18:35] <gregon> ok, that with proposed was my next question :D
[18:36] <gregon> so, i'll wait. had some very bad expirience with proposed and open office some years ago
[18:36] <gregon> thx again, have a nice day
[18:43] <gregon> Totally forgot, have another question. On my ThinkPad E145 is the print screen key placed between cursor and whitespace, but there is no menu key. Wanted to let it behave like a menu key. The trick "xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Menu" " should theoreticaly work (107 is the right keycode), but it has no respond. Only shift+print gives me a context menu in the terminal window only
[19:12] <Airbander> Hi guys
[19:13] <Airbander> i installed xfce4 how to get the windows manager or it ?
[19:17] <bazhang> thunar?
[19:18] <bazhang> or did you mean the *dm
[19:21] <blub_> hi
[19:22] <blub_> i somehow got the problem that some key on my keyboard aren't defined anymore... are there any shortcuts where I could have changed something regarding layout settings?
[19:38] <Nico__> Hello, I have a problem with my Xubuntu, can someone helps me ?
[19:40] <holstein> Nico__: just ask, a volunteer will likely try and help
[19:43] <Nico__> Ok, well, I have a dual boot computer (Xubuntu / Windows 7) and I my xubuntu can't start, when I try the recovery mode, I have messages like 'READ FPDMA QUEUD failed' or 'end_request I/O error dev sda...',
[19:43] <holstein> Nico__: is the hard drive failing?
[19:43] <Nico__> But, my computer has no problem to boot on windows
[19:44] <Nico__> So, I tried the command 'badbloks -sv /dev/sda' and I had few errors
[19:44] <holstein> i would test the hard drive, and use a live iso to test and backup whatever data i need.. then, i would either address the messages you see to get the recovery console working, or replace the hardware..
[19:44] <Nico__> My hard drive seems to be the problem
[19:44] <holstein> Nico__: then, you will likely have issues soon in windows as well.. i would make arrangments to replace
[19:45] <Nico__> So the hard drive is dead ?
[19:45] <holstein> Nico__: im not saying that, friend.. im saying, you should test it.. you are saying you have, and it is reporting issues
[19:45] <holstein> Nico__: if the drive is failing, you cant "fix" that in software or operating systems
[19:46] <Nico__> Ok, I'll try to boot on an usb and at least save important data
[19:46] <Nico__> Then what kind of test can I perform to check the hdd ?
[19:47] <holstein> Nico__: you should backup, ASAP.. and keep in mind, *all* hard drives fail at some point, and keep data backed up
[19:47] <holstein> Nico__: i use "gsmartcontrol", which still looks a lot like this.. http://linuxhub.net/2010/09/scan-your-hard-disk-with-gsmartcontrol-on-ubuntu-10-10/
[19:47] <koegs> Nico__: fsck, badblocks, S.M.A.R.T.-Values, but first of all: backup your data!!!
[19:48] <Nico__> already tried badbloks, had 14 errors :(
[19:48] <koegs> so, personally i would not trust that hdd any longer
[19:48] <holstein> Nico__: use a live iso to grab the important data from *all* operating systems on the drive
[19:49] <holstein> Nico__: and, in the future, keep your data backed up all the time.. *before* the drive fails
[19:49] <Nico__> Ok, I'm currently downloading Xubuntu iso
[19:49] <infamy> Does anyone in here have knowledge of cloud service providers?
[19:49] <infamy> ...with sales exp?
[19:50] <infamy> btw xubuntu rules
[19:50] <infamy> I've been using it for a year and a half.
[19:51] <infamy> I totally sent that cloud question to the wrong channel. MY BAD.
[19:51] <holstein> infamy: here are the relevant ubuntu ones.. http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud ..otherwise, it really depends on your needs.. try a general linux channel or just search for specific cloud services.. digital ocean, etc..
[19:51] <infamy> ok thnks
[19:56] <gregon> Could somebody help? I want to swap/reassign keys on the keyboard. print screen -> menu. Tried "xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Menu", this disabled the screenshot function, but the key still doesn't work as a menu.
[19:57] <Hedgework> gregon: IIRC, xfce4 overrides some things from xmodmap...you might try the gui configurator...I've never used it (I don't run the stock wm) but it's my first instinct on where to look for glitchiness
[20:00] <gregon> Hedgework, well, I looked up in the XFCE settings, but didn't found anything where I can change this stuff. There are only hotkeys. Is there some GUI-xmodmap? Or should I look somewhere in the registry?
[20:02] <Hedgework> gregon: Have you tried other wms/des to see if this is an xfce specific issue or a global one?
[20:03] <gregon> Hedgework, oh, good point. I can try it now in a second. What wm should I install for quick test, maybe fluxbox?
[20:05] <Hedgework> gregon: whatever's least effort for you :)
[20:06] <gregon> Hedgework, ok, just a second
[20:09] <gregon> Hedgework, ok, under fluxbox it works hell well
[20:10] <gregon> Hedgework, I'll now try to disable the screenshot hotkey in xfce
[20:10] <Hedgework> gregon: Yay!  Now we've at least figured out that it's an XFCE4 configuration issue not an Xorg or deeper issue.
[20:11] <gregon> Hedgework, well, not working brightness or not working wake-up, depending on the ati-driver and xorg dumping core every second wake-up... well :D
[20:12] <Hedgework> gregon: ow
[20:16] <gregon> Hedgework, thank you for assistance, it just works now, the xfce-screenshooter was in the way
[20:16] <Hedgework> Aha!  Glad you got it working. :)
[20:18] <gregon> Hedgework, jep. but you don't have any suggestions about ati-drivers? open-source: after wake-up after suspend i can log-in, but then the screen diaspears, OS is running fine, ctrl-alt-f1 is there, just no picture. closed-source: brightness is only reported through notification, but not actualy changed
[20:19] <Hedgework> gregon: Hmmm...the only machine I have with an ATI card is not on Xubuntu so I didn't have to mess with those issues.  I'm sorry I don't have time to debug that one this afternoon. Maybe if you hang around someone else can help?
[20:20] <gregon> may be, who knows. I'll ask later. thx for help, have a nice day :)
[20:21] <Hedgework> ttyl :)
[20:43] <intherye> Hi all, some days I upgraded to Unicorn. Now booting takes very long (8 minutes, it took even longer some days ago). Hard drive is working hard during that time, looks like it's checking the filesystem, but no notice is printed about what's going on. Do you have an idea where I could start debugging?
[20:44] <holstein> intherye: i would start by testing the hard drive.. then, i would try the "known good" 14.04 live environment.. see if the hardware works as expected with 14.04.. then, would look for and apply updates, and consider reinstalling 14.04 and just using it, if all was well in 14.04
[20:48] <intherye> holstein: good points. i will do a check with smartmontools.
[23:28] <Airbander> good night