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| ezobn | Hi All, After fresh install of juno openstack on trusty (openstack-origin:trusty-juno) the neutron security group service is not started. How I can run it ? Why on controller node (installed by charm) no neutron-server installed ? | 07:24 |
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| vogonpoetry | Trying to make changes to cinder-vmware charm work with another storage driver. Looking at it, I think I mainly need to edit cinder_context to take in the new config keys defined in config.yaml… Is there more to it than that? If so where else should I look. | 08:02 |
| vogonpoetry | and many thanks for any help | 08:03 |
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| cargill_ | hi, when I deployed a bundle and a service is not started, can I start it from the gui? | 09:34 |
| cargill_ | the debug-log does not mention any errors, however it does not mention starting that either | 09:36 |
| cargill_ | hmm, yet stat says "agent-state: started" | 09:47 |
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| jose | tvansteenburgh: hey, have a min? | 13:41 |
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| tvansteenburgh | jose: yep | 14:03 |
| jose | tvansteenburgh: quick question, will bundletester deploy the local charm or the one in the store as a default? | 14:03 |
| jose | cory_fu: those tests for chamilo are now done, should I do an MP against your branch or against the store? | 14:03 |
| tvansteenburgh | jose: bundletester just finds tests and executes them. what's deployed would depend on what's in the amulet test or the bundle file | 14:04 |
| jose | tvansteenburgh: got it, thanks | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | jose: where do I sign up for a slot? | 14:10 |
| jose | rick_h_: with me | 14:10 |
| rick_h_ | jose: ah ok. | 14:10 |
| rick_h_ | jose: put me down for 15:00 friday? | 14:11 |
| jose | rick_h_: sure, what would be a short description of the presentation? | 14:11 |
| rick_h_ | jose: I'm going to ping alexisb and see if she wants to dual up again or not. | 14:12 |
| jose | rick_h_: got it, lemme know! :) | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | jose: so for now "What's new and upcoming in the work of Juju UI Engineering" can work for now | 14:12 |
| cory_fu | jose: If you're happy with the services framework implementation of the charm, I'd say MP it against trunk | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | jose: and for a description just something about the latest in the progress of the Juju GUI, jujucharms.com, and juju-quickstart. | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | jose: and if alexisb can join then I'll ask you to ammend it to be more general juju | 14:13 |
| jose | rick_h_: awesome, sec to give you the link... | 14:13 |
| jose | rick_h_: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22387/whats-new-and-upcoming-in-the-work-of-juju-ui-engineering/ | 14:14 |
| jose | cory_fu: ok, MP against trunk is open | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | jose: ty | 14:14 |
| cory_fu | tvansteenburgh: Why is bundletester tagged to bzr==2.6.0 instead of bzr>=2.6.0? My system apparently has 2.7.0dev1 and it's complaining | 14:34 |
| tvansteenburgh | cory_fu: that's how i inherited it, and i haven't tested it with anything else | 14:35 |
| tvansteenburgh | you didn't install it in a virtualenv? | 14:35 |
| cory_fu | tvansteenburgh: Yes, but I had to use --system-site-packages to get pythonapt to work, which meant that my system-level installed bzr made it so I couldn't install the right version of bzr into the virtualenv | 14:39 |
| cory_fu | I know I had this working at one point, so I'm not sure how I managed it before | 14:39 |
| tvansteenburgh | pip install -I | 14:39 |
| tvansteenburgh | (capital i) | 14:40 |
| cory_fu | Ah! That works. I thought there was such an option, but it's not listed on pip --help | 14:41 |
| tvansteenburgh | pip help install :) | 14:41 |
| cory_fu | Gah | 14:41 |
| cory_fu | :) | 14:41 |
| cory_fu | Thanks | 14:41 |
| tvansteenburgh | np | 14:41 |
| cargill_ | hi, is it possible to run juju local environment when the host is an lxc container already? | 14:51 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: lxc in lxc gets a bit hairy, and isn't really recommended. | 14:52 |
| LinStatSDR | sorry for the delay, lazyPower is correct. | 14:54 |
| cargill_ | lazyPower: I've been using vagrant until now, but the fact that everything is routed through 10.0.3.1 which breaks some relations, notably postgresql, is quite annoying, not to mention slow and memory-hungry | 14:54 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: i understand your frustration. aisrael is working with our team that maintains the images toa ddress most of those issues. there's also work being done to provide a docker based image for the workflow (allbeit a much lower priority than fixing vagrant papercuts presently) | 14:55 |
| cargill_ | and I'm running Debian, which juju is not really happy with and I haven't had the time to find out how to fix that yet | 14:56 |
| aisrael | cargill_: the issue with postgresql and routing should be fixed in the latest vagrant box images | 14:56 |
| cargill_ | I've downloaded one yesterday, is that new enough? | 14:56 |
| LinStatSDR | cargill_ what version of ebian? | 14:56 |
| cargill_ | jessie | 14:56 |
| LinStatSDR | okay | 14:56 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: where did you fetch the box from? aisrael - have we updated the docs with the latest box url(s)? | 14:57 |
| aisrael | cargill_: yes. Are you seeing the routing issue with that box? | 14:57 |
| cargill_ | the amd64 one linked in https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/config-vagrant.html | 14:58 |
| cargill_ | aisrael: it's this issue, isn't it? 'FATAL: no pg_hba.conf entry for host "10.0.3.1"' | 14:59 |
| aisrael | cargill_: Yep, that's the issue | 14:59 |
| LinStatSDR | ;( | 15:00 |
| aisrael | lazyPower: looks like the doc is pointing to an image from August | 15:00 |
| aisrael | cargill_: Could you try an image from here? http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/current/ | 15:00 |
| aisrael | I'll get the docs updated | 15:00 |
| lazyPower | aisrael: i suspected as much, we should try to automate that part of the docs or poitn them at the /current/ images so its always up to date | 15:00 |
| LinStatSDR | juju does need the updating | 15:01 |
| aisrael | lazyPower: Yeah, it should just point to current. I'll see if we can get that stale image removed, too. | 15:01 |
| lazyPower | aisrael: offtopic to whats going on here - will you be available to help run a session at UDS over the dev workflow with vagrant? ~ 20 minutes give or take | 15:01 |
| cargill_ | I'd still prefer to try the LXCception approach, with 4GB of memory, VirtualBox is not a nice neighbour | 15:02 |
| aisrael | lazyPower: depends on the day. My schedule this week is going to be somewhat challenging | 15:02 |
| cargill_ | and I'm mostly after testing out stuff locally, not production use | 15:03 |
| cargill_ | what are the common issues with that approach? | 15:03 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: I've run into issues with cgroups failing the upstart task - and didnt pursue it any further | 15:05 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: and to note, i haven't actually tried to run juju within that lxc container | 15:05 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: however if you come up with a working solution - i'm all for talking to you about your approach and documenting it for science. | 15:06 |
| LinStatSDR | For science! | 15:07 |
| cargill_ | at the moment, I'm getting 'juju.container.lxc clonetemplate.go:167 container failed to start: container failed to start' in the container, nothing more descriptive in the juju debug-log -l TRACE | 15:07 |
| cargill_ | but I haven't tried to create a container yet, this is where I was before I asked here | 15:08 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: if i were to guess at the culprit - i'd say its networking | 15:08 |
| LinStatSDR | i dislike generic failure debug statements | 15:08 |
| cargill_ | yeah, I'm trying to get all the information there is on LXC in LXC and see if I can get an lxc container start manually, to make sure that works | 15:09 |
| ktosiek | /join #nagare | 15:09 |
| ktosiek | dang it | 15:09 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: https://www.stgraber.org/2012/05/04/lxc-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/ - container nesting. | 15:09 |
| LinStatSDR | hmm 12.04 | 15:09 |
| lazyPower | the info is bit old :( | 15:09 |
| LinStatSDR | Yes, needs a bit of updating lol | 15:10 |
| lazyPower | https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html#lxc-basic-usage - that may be more up to date. | 15:11 |
| lazyPower | under nesting - it talks about a profile to be used for nesting | 15:11 |
| lazyPower | lxc.aa_profile = lxc-container-default-with-nesting | 15:11 |
| LinStatSDR | LazyPower, that is much newer. For 14.04 | 15:12 |
| cargill_ | ok, so the host being debian, I don't have to do this part, right? since systemd manages its cgroups, would it interfere? | 15:13 |
| LinStatSDR | Does it "have" to be debian :D | 15:13 |
| cargill_ | LinStatSDR: kinda has, yes, I'm not reinstalling my machine just to have juju running on it :) | 15:14 |
| cargill_ | (although I can get rid of systemd, it is a bit painful sometimes) | 15:15 |
| LinStatSDR | Hehe, I'm just busting your chops cargill_. That and I seem to less "problems" if you will, issues running Ubuntu for juju | 15:15 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: since we're not officially moving ot SystemD for another few cycles, i dont think anyone here has really worked with juju under a systemd supervisor. | 15:16 |
| lazyPower | so we wont have much in terms of info in that regard | 15:16 |
| cargill_ | yeah, I thought as much, thanks anyway | 15:17 |
| LinStatSDR | =) | 15:18 |
| cargill_ | does the lxc.mount.auto = cgroup line go into /etc/lxc.conf or the container's own config file in /var/lib/lxc/<container>/config? | 15:19 |
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| lazyPower | mhall119: ping - we've got all 5 of our sessions in pending on summit. | 16:10 |
| lazyPower | oo, i missed one. 6 sessions | 16:13 |
| mhall119 | lazyPower: in pending? then you need a track lead to approve them | 16:16 |
| lazyPower | mhall119: do I ping antonio for that? sorry for my daftness - this is my first time doing the scheduling. | 16:16 |
| mhall119 | jose: gaughen: marcoceppi: ^^ | 16:16 |
| mhall119 | lazyPower: antonio or one of the ones I just pinged | 16:16 |
| * lazyPower facepalms | 16:16 | |
| lazyPower | you sent that in the email - sorry | 16:16 |
| mhall119 | it's okay :) | 16:17 |
| cargill_ | hmm, juju-gui is started, but keeps on responding with a 301 to https:// + whatever I put in the Host header, then does not want to speak TLS, is there something I'm missing? | 16:28 |
| lazyPower | rick_h_: have you guys done any experimentation with the gui being nested in lxc? I think i know the answer to this... | 16:29 |
| lazyPower | rick_h_: for clarity - Debian host => Parent JUJU Environment container => juju gui is container in a container. | 16:30 |
| cargill_ | ah, it was trying to redirect me to port 443, just that it got confused | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: no, the big thing is how do you get to it via the network? It needs to have the ability to hit the juju api websocket | 16:31 |
| rick_h_ | cargill_: cool, yea one of the guys on the team is currently working on making the charm take a port as a config param to run on | 16:31 |
| rick_h_ | which should help it colocate better with other services soon. Should be released next week | 16:31 |
| lazyPower | rick_h_: good question - i'm not sure - cargill_ is pioneering this | 16:31 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: yea, never tried it I guess. Nothing 'shouldn't work that I know of but it all depends on the networking setup from what I can think of | 16:32 |
| lazyPower | I haven't either tbh - but this sounds like a compelling alternative to using vagrant if the networking re-config is trivial. | 16:33 |
| cargill_ | after I got the croups remounted in the container as well, juju seems to be mostly happy (apart from me setting apt proxy wrong and install of juju-gui failing because of that :)) | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: huh? How does it help with vagrant? Does vangrant just run the lxc? | 16:33 |
| lazyPower | rick_h_: vagrant is a heavier weight alternative when i can just share resources with my HOST | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: ok, but I'm missing the point. If you're on linux and have lxc why do lxc in lxc? | 16:34 |
| lazyPower | rick_h_: all that i *really* want this for is doing the testing setup for charm reviews - as my workstation is polluted beyond recognition from all the junk in 00-setup from teh charms. | 16:34 |
| rick_h_ | you can do multiple envs in lxc? | 16:34 |
| lazyPower | isolate all that business so i can just wipe out the lxc container when im' done and call it. | 16:34 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: right but do an env and just destroy-environment --force? | 16:35 |
| lazyPower | and i dont need nested containers for that. | 16:35 |
| lazyPower | now that i think about it, i've been undeniably lazy - i could just snapshot a testing container, and put my environments.yaml in there - use it for testing with cloud hosts | 16:35 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: ok, I'm all for helping you solve a problem with the gui. Just not understanding the problem atm so forgive me. | 16:36 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: give me a setup you want to work and I'll see what we can do | 16:36 |
| lazyPower | rick_h_: well my use case is crazy different than what cargill_ is doing, and cargill_ would be a better source of truth on that matter than I. | 16:37 |
| lazyPower | i pinged you to see if you guys had ever had a crazy notion to try that - but most of us that i'm aware of, have not gone the route of nested lxc. | 16:37 |
| rick_h_ | lazyPower: right, we've not really. lxc is usually 'contained' enough for our needs. | 16:38 |
| lazyPower | yo dawg, i heard you like to contain things, so we spun up containers in your containers so you can container while you container. | 16:38 |
| LinStatSDR | lol | 16:40 |
| LinStatSDR | lazyPower +1 | 16:40 |
| cory_fu | Just submitted my dhx (debug-hooks-ext) plugin pull request: https://github.com/juju/plugins/pull/32 I am interested in feedback, but I think it makes for a much improved charm debugging experience | 16:51 |
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| cargill_ | is there a way to get the public-address of a service either in the GUI or through the juju command? | 17:10 |
| cargill_ | apart from juju stat, which is a bit hard to parse in the shell | 17:11 |
| cargill_ | actually, not through the gui, because I want to get the gui service address to set up networking after I bootstrap a new environment... | 17:13 |
| lazyPower | cargill_: juju run --unit service/# "unit-get public-address" | 17:16 |
| cory_fu | cargill_: juju status service | grep public-address | awk '{print $NF}' | 17:17 |
| lazyPower | if your'e on one of the beta builds, we have newer options for juju status as well | 17:17 |
| cargill_ | lazyPower: thanks | 17:17 |
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| cargill_ | yay, juju feels much snappier, does not eat my memory for breakfast and no problems with cross-machine connections going through 10.0.3.1 | 17:24 |
| cargill_ | thanks for your help everyone | 17:30 |
| lazyPower | No problem cargill_ - if you have any notes i'd love to see them. | 17:43 |
| lazyPower | its an interesting approach for sure | 17:43 |
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| jose | mhall119, lazyPower: scheduling? shoot a PM | 18:25 |
| lazyPower | jose: i sent an email follow up - let me fwd it to ya | 18:25 |
| jose | cool | 18:25 |
| lazyPower | jose: you've got mail - and there are 6 sessions proposed on summit | 18:26 |
| jose | got it | 18:26 |
| jose | lazyPower: have you already proposed the sessions on summit or created a blueprint? | 18:27 |
| jose | don't see them | 18:27 |
| lazyPower | jose: no blueprints - the only session we have for planning is the open feedback - and what project would you target that against as it encompasses charms and juju? | 18:27 |
| lazyPower | jose: however mbruzek created 6 sessions that are in pending | 18:28 |
| mhall119 | jose: you don't see pending meetings in http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/review/ ? | 18:28 |
| jose | lazyPower, mhall119: was looking at scheduling, sorry | 18:28 |
| jose | lazyPower: 17 UTC wed, charm testing: slot is plenary. 15 UTC fri, open feedback, slot is taken by rick_h_ | 18:31 |
| lazyPower | jose: can you just shift them down into open slots and I'll update our tenative slots on the calendar? | 18:32 |
| lazyPower | jose: what i'm more concerned with is keeping the order that we have them scheduled, as its a progressive build on the prior | 18:32 |
| jose | ok | 18:32 |
| lazyPower | the times are adjustible however | 18:32 |
| jose | lazyPower: charm testing is on the 18UTC slot on wed, open feedback on the 14 UTC slot on Fri | 18:33 |
| jose | lazyPower: actually, you can choose between 14UTC fri or 18 UTC fri | 18:33 |
| lazyPower | jose: 18UTC sounds like a better timeslot as its after standup. | 18:34 |
| jose | ok | 18:34 |
| jose | lazyPower, mbruzek: all meetings approved and scheduled | 18:35 |
| lazyPower | jose: thanks for the follow up o/ | 18:35 |
| jose | 5 slots are still open if anyone wants tot ake them | 18:35 |
| jose | 5 slots are still open if anyone wants tot ake them | 18:36 |
| jose | np :) | 18:36 |
| bidwell | Is this the place where one might get help with getting juju+maas to bootstrap? | 18:38 |
| lazyPower | bidwell: we can certainly try - whats the situation? | 18:39 |
| bidwell | I have a maas server with 6 machines behind it that have been provisioned with ubuntu 14.04.1 and returned to the ready state (but still up). When I run "juju bootstrap" from the maas server it runs for 30 minutes and then says "ERROR bootstrap failed: waited for 30m0s without being able to connect: /var/lib/juju/nonce.txt does not exist" | 18:41 |
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| bidwell | I can ssh to them as ubuntu@host.domain from the maas server and sudo once there. I am not sure what I am missing. | 18:42 |
| lazyPower | oh, interesting | 18:50 |
| lazyPower | missing nonce.txt huh? | 18:50 |
| lazyPower | bidwell: i'm not positive on why this is the case but i'm goign through questions on AU with similar symptoms | 18:53 |
| lazyPower | bidwell: can you get me the output from juju -v --debug bootstrap -e maas (or your maas environment name) | 18:53 |
| lazyPower | preferrably in a pastebin | 18:54 |
| themonk | lazyPower, hi | 19:02 |
| jose | themonk: hey, need any help? | 19:03 |
| themonk | jose, : hi yes :) | 19:03 |
| jose | what's up? | 19:03 |
| themonk | jose, i have submitted my charm for review but i am just waiting, tipicaly how long it takes to review? and can you see my page and tell me is there anything i did wrong? | 19:05 |
| jose | themonk: let me check if it's on the queue | 19:06 |
| jose | themonk: which charm is it? | 19:06 |
| themonk | gluu-server | 19:06 |
| lazyPower | hah | 19:06 |
| jose | that's lazyPower | 19:07 |
| lazyPower | jose: i have that one locked but have since gotten pre-occupied | 19:07 |
| jose | cool then! | 19:07 |
| lazyPower | if you want it i can unlock it and you can get the first round | 19:07 |
| jose | definitely | 19:07 |
| jose | I've got some time now | 19:07 |
| lazyPower | allrighty - incoming c-c-c-c-c-c-combo-breaker | 19:07 |
| lazyPower | themonk: tiem to review is subjective - it depends on whats int eh queue and so forth - as you're an ISV we'll give ya some express privledges ;) | 19:08 |
| lazyPower | jose: unlocked - have at it | 19:08 |
| jose | cool, checking now | 19:08 |
| themonk | lazyPower, :) | 19:08 |
| marcoc | whit, how do you deploy cloud foundry? | 19:09 |
| whit | marcoc, usually I follow the readme, but execute the actual deployment command by hand | 19:10 |
| jose | themonk: mind if I PM? | 19:10 |
| whit | marcoc, what are you seeing? | 19:10 |
| whit | marcoc, or was your question even more general? | 19:11 |
| marcoc | whit, I have bootstrap, what's next is my question | 19:11 |
| themonk | jose, ? | 19:12 |
| jose | themonk: wanna make a couple questions about the charm, and was wondering if it was fine for you if I sent a private message | 19:12 |
| whit | marcoc, alright! I suggest checking out the source from launchpad and following the instructions in the README | 19:12 |
| themonk | jose, ok np | 19:13 |
| whit | marcoc, let me grab you a link | 19:13 |
| marcoc | whit, and the source is? | 19:13 |
| whit | marcoc, https://code.launchpad.net/~cf-charmers/charms/trusty/cloudfoundry/trunk | 19:14 |
| marcoc | whit, ta | 19:14 |
| whit | marcoc, hollar if you have any issues. Where are you planning on deploying? | 19:15 |
| jose | marcoceppi, lazyPower, mbruzek: auth request to push https://code.launchpad.net/~ibm-demo/charms/trusty/mediawiki/trunk/+merge/240072 | 19:15 |
| marcoc | AWS west-2 | 19:15 |
| lazyPower | jose: go for it | 19:16 |
| jose | lazyPower: thanks | 19:16 |
| whit | marcoc, ok cool. be sure to set a constraint for instance-type=m3.medium | 19:16 |
| marcoc | instance-type works as a --constraint? | 19:17 |
| whit | marcoc, iirc, the deploy script included will create a "dense" placement | 19:17 |
| whit | marcoc, only on aws, but yeah | 19:17 |
| whit | marcoc, you can also pick a size of cpu or memory and get the same effect. main thing is to avoid getting hung up on limit m1.smalls | 19:18 |
| whit | *limited | 19:18 |
| whit | marcoc, it should spin up 8 machines iirc | 19:18 |
| marcoc | oh crap, where do I set the constraint? before running cfdeploy? | 19:22 |
| whit | marcoc, before | 19:23 |
| whit | marcoc, generally we bootstrap with it | 19:23 |
| marcoc | oops | 19:23 |
| marcoc | juju deployer -T | 19:23 |
| whit | marcoc, anyway, it will fail fairly fast. what version of juju are you using? | 19:23 |
| whit | marcoc, exactly | 19:23 |
| * whit should alias that to juju undeploy | 19:24 | |
| marcoc | 1.21-beta1 | 19:24 |
| marcoc | whit, I wrote a juju-reset plugin | 19:24 |
| whit | marcoc, ah nice | 19:24 |
| whit | marcoc, 1.21-b may not have the m1.small issue | 19:25 |
| * whit crosses fingers | 19:25 | |
| whit | marcoc, how's reinvent? | 19:27 |
| marcoc | hasn't started yet, but it's pretty hectic | 19:28 |
| bidwell | my 'juju -v --debug bootstrap -e maas' pastebin should be at http://pastebin.com/fxMRSJM | 19:30 |
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| marcoc | marcoc, how long should this take? | 20:14 |
| marcoc | I got an internet window | 20:14 |
| marcoc | to a thing with tabs | 20:14 |
| marcoc | but it's been spinning for a while | 20:14 |
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