[00:48] <kingjere> I am making an ubuntu wireless access point. Clients can connect and get an ip via dnsmasq, but they cannot connect to the web. Can someone look at my iptables and see if I am missing something?
[00:48] <kingjere> http://goo.gl/sCbgra
[00:57] <kingjere> so for grins I installed links on the machine that is the WAP. I can browse using that. Does that mean that its just not doing NAT?
[02:32] <keithzg> Not gonna lie, I find it a bit irritating that kdeconnect still can't traverse subnets or be given specific addresses.
[02:33] <keithzg> Hrmmm, but it saves previous connections. Perhaps that can be manually fiddled with to provide it with a hostname or IP . . .
[02:34]  * keithzg dislikes this modern "everything is automagical!" world because, being a perpetual outlier, things ain't ever so magic or even automatic for keithzg :P
[02:36] <keithzg> Damn, /data/data/org.kde.kdeconnect_tp/shared_prefs/trusted_devices.xml seems to just define them via UUID.
[02:39] <keithzg> And then each device is defined in a "${uuid}.xml" file there, which merely lists user@hostname. No use there.
[02:39]  * keithzg sighs
[02:41] <Phillies> for some reason whenever i goto shutdown my laptop with kubuntu 14.10 on it i goes black and can still hear it running have to hold down pwr btn to force shutdown    any suggestions on what could be the problem?
[02:41] <Phillies> the only thing connected is usb mouse and hdmi cable for monitor
[02:58] <keithzg> Phillies: Have you tried telling it to shut down from the commandline, ex. "sudo poweroff"? It'd be interesting if that gives a different result.
[02:59] <Phillies> just with shutdown -n
[02:59] <Phillies> iirc
[03:00] <keithzg> I actually have had a similar issue with one of my desktops on 14.10, but on the other hand that same desktop acts even *worse* with Windows (which ends up silently turning it back on once shut down---but not *actuallY* on, just fans running and power to LEDs) so I just chocked it up to weirdness with my specific motherboard/firmware.
[03:14] <joan> do you know where dolphin stores samba user/passwords or how to clear them without restarting the local session?
[03:14] <joan> k
[03:14] <joan> (I'm using kubuntu 14.04)
[03:42] <naught102> are the AMD proprietary drivers preferred for Radeon HD 6400M? Or the open source ones?
[05:54] <naught101> anyone know how I can enable the xorg radeon driver? It's installed, fglrx isn't, but kubuntu seems to only want to use the intel chip (intel/radeon integrated graphics, Radeon HD 6400 (Seymour))
[05:54] <naught101> on trusty
[08:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:35] <kavaco_> hi
[11:36] <kavaco_> lordievader: good morning
[11:36] <lordievader> Good afternoon, kavaco_
[11:37] <kavaco_> Aqui ainda é manhã.
[11:37] <kavaco_> on Brazil
[11:37] <kavaco_> :D
[11:38] <kavaco_> *here is yet morning.
[11:38] <lordievader> I know ;)
[11:38] <kavaco_> 08:38 am
[11:38] <kavaco_> ahuahuahuahauhaa
[11:39] <kavaco_> how are you?
[11:39] <lordievader> Doing allright, what about you?
[11:40] <kavaco_> all right, too
[11:40] <kavaco_> i removed the fglrx. now the kernel detects the card amd radeon
[11:40] <kavaco_> on kubuntu
[11:43] <kavaco_> I thought about using Ubuntu. but the temperature of the cpu is 65. and in Kubuntu is 50 (degrees celsius)
[11:44] <kavaco_> but, the kubuntu using the Intel HD
[11:44] <kavaco_> lordievader: how to set the amd radeon, default?
[11:44] <kavaco_> without amd catalyst
[11:45] <lordievader> Err, that is usually a bios thing. And even then it is unreliable.
[11:46] <kavaco_> is a hybrid system
[11:47] <kavaco_> on amd catalyst control center, i can set the amd radeon or intel hd
[11:47] <lordievader> kavaco_: Then it even more tricky.
[11:47] <hateball> In some BIOS you can set it to only use discrete or integrated, but not all BIOS
[11:48] <hateball> kavaco_: Is the fglrx driver not working for you? So you can switch in Kubuntu?
[11:50] <kavaco_> hateball: fglrx does not work here. When I installed it, it worked for a few hours, then the kernel does not recognize. lspci showed no amd radeon card.
[11:51] <hateball> kavaco_: oh :|
[11:51] <kavaco_> lspci show again, after I removed fglrx
[11:51] <lordievader> And the bios seemingly has no idea there is and AMD card present...
[11:51] <hateball> This is why I stay clear of AMD
[11:52] <kavaco_> but in windows and ubuntu, it works normally
[11:52] <arkascha> Anyone got an idea where to get the SteamPunk themes for Kubuntu from? The links on kde-apps.org look highly suspicious to having been altered...
[11:52] <hateball> kavaco_: that sounds really weird, the kernel is the same no matter what DE you start
[11:52] <kavaco_> fglrx works perfectly in ubuntu
[11:53] <kavaco_> but works
[11:54] <kavaco_> and i can switch between cards, using amd catalyst in ubuntu
[11:54] <lordievader> It is a dual boot... Still wondering if they are different versions.
[11:55] <kavaco_> sim
[11:55] <kavaco_> *yes
[11:55] <kavaco_> ubuntu 14.04
[11:55] <kavaco_> kubuntu 14.10
[11:56] <lordievader> kavaco_: Heh, still not a full explanation, but a starting point no less.
[11:57] <hateball> a possible regression in the fglrx driver then
[11:57] <hateball> if it has changed from 14.04 to 14.10
[11:57] <hateball> nvidia binary is still the same
[11:58] <kavaco_> 03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265]
[11:58] <kavaco_> Subsystem: Dell Radeon R7 M265
[11:59] <kavaco_> can i set the xdriver=radeon on grub2?
[12:00] <kavaco_> or xorg.conf
[12:00] <kavaco_> ?
[12:00] <lordievader> kavaco_: That will not help you if the card is not detected...
[12:01] <kavaco_> it is
[12:02] <kavaco_> lordievader: after I removed fglrx, lspci shows amd radeon
[12:02] <kavaco_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8939546/
[12:02] <kavaco_> from kubuntu
[12:05] <kavaco_> dmidecode from kubutnu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8939599/
[12:11] <kavaco_> I'll be back
[12:18] <kavaco> hi
[12:23] <kavaco> lordievader: see files?
[12:23] <kavaco> *links
[12:36] <lordievader> kavaco: What link? The dmidecode output? I already confirmed that your bios never sees the Radeon card.
[12:46] <bshah> !info libopencv-dev
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:12] <krishnasut> anyone who are using plasma 5 ... ibus bengali input is not working help
[15:13] <bshah> what do you mean by not working?
[15:14] <krishnasut> option not shown in IBUS preference menu ...
[15:14] <krishnasut> im-config is configured to start IBUS
[16:48] <inzi> hello
[16:48] <inzi> hi everyone
[16:48] <inzi> need sum urgent help on installing kubuntu
[16:49] <inzi> the kubuntu installer crashes when it reaches the select keyboard layout.. i cant seem to get past it
[16:49] <inzi> Please help!
[16:52] <inzi> hello
[16:55] <inzi> Are there any kubuntu GURU's out there who can help me
[16:56] <inzi> he kubuntu installer crashes when it reaches the select keyboard layout.. i cant seem to get past it
[17:01] <inzi> can anyone help me out?
[17:04] <yossarianuk> inzi: sounds like dodgy install media
[17:04] <yossarianuk> try re-burn the .iso or use a different USB stick
[17:05] <yossarianuk> when it 'crashes' - try to go to console (alt+ctrl+f2) and use check logs - i.e dsmeg, etc
[17:06] <inzi> im using a USB
[17:06] <inzi> i've already tried that..
[17:07] <yossarianuk> and what messages can you see
[17:07] <inzi> i've been getting this evertime i try to install kubuntu
[17:07] <lordievader> inzi: Did you md5sum the iso?
[17:07] <inzi> yeah
[17:07] <inzi> it checks out fine
[17:07] <inzi> is there a text based installer
[17:07] <inzi> i cant seem to find it online
[17:08] <lordievader> inzi: The mini iso, or the server iso.
[17:08] <yossarianuk> what do the logs show after the crash?
[17:08] <inzi> standard 32bit 14.10 iso
[17:08] <inzi> hold on just a moment i will try and paste it
[17:10] <inzi> http://paste.kde.org/pkrvjp7ep
[17:14] <inzi> any clue on wat to do
[18:39] <Phillies> for some reason whenever i goto shutdown my laptop with kubuntu 14.10 on it i goes black and can still hear it running have to hold down pwr btn to force shutdown    any suggestions on what could be the problem?
[18:39] <Phillies> the only thing connected is usb mouse and hdmi cable for monitor
[18:44] <andy123> Phillies: try if sudo shutdown -P now shuts down your computer properly
[18:45] <Phillies> ill try now thanks
[18:45] <andy123> np, report if that works
[18:46] <Phillies> brb
[18:52] <Phillies> andy123,   yeah it worked thank you
[18:52] <Phillies> it booted up a little diffrently though
[18:52] <andy123> Phillies: what is different?
[18:53] <Phillies> it shutdown perfect so i hit the power button to turn it back on
[18:53] <Phillies> and i heard it start to turn on you know the laptop fan or whatever   but black screen on laptop monitor and the tv
[18:54] <Phillies> i hit a couple keys then on laptop command prompt for my to enter encrypt drive pass poppped on
[18:54] <Phillies> usually its like GUI a little diffrent
[18:54] <andy123> I'm not sure what happened there
[18:54] <Phillies> but either way it worked   after i entered the decrypt pass   i saw the black screen  with the [OK]   shit scrolling
[18:54] <Phillies> usually never see that
[18:55] <andy123> ubuntu usually hides this by an image
[18:56] <Phillies> yeha i dunno
[18:56] <Phillies> thanks for sorting the shutdown tho
[18:56] <andy123> no problem, you can make this the default
[18:56] <andy123> http://weits.blogspot.de/2012/02/kubuntu-1204-computer-wont-power-off.html
[18:56] <Phillies> i can deal with everything else  just happy i dont have to hard shutdown
[18:56] <andy123> ok, fine
[18:57] <andy123> Phillies: oh no, its different on kubuntu 14.10
[18:57] <Phillies> ok
[19:09] <andy123> Phillies: I'm sorry I cant find the command for lightdm
[19:14] <BluesKaj> sudo service lightdm start ?
[19:15] <alket> hi
[19:15] <andy123> hi alket ;)
[19:15] <alket> hey andy123
[19:15] <alket> do you know where to get the torrent of kubuntu 14.10 plasma 5 ?
[19:15] <alket> as you know my network isnt the best :)
[19:16] <andy123> BluesKaj: we need a solution for lightdm, similar to kdmrc http://weits.blogspot.de/2012/02/kubuntu-1204-computer-wont-power-off.html
[19:16] <andrew____> hello, help! how sublime text show menu?
[19:17] <alket> andrew____, alt + v , then Show Menu
[19:18] <BluesKaj> andy123, I used, sudo halt , in the past, but not sure if that command is still valid
[19:18] <andrew____> alket, not work(
[19:19] <andy123> BluesKaj: the command that works is "/sbin/shutdown -P now". But we dont know how to get lightdm to call it
[19:19] <alket> andy123, Alt + V (without the + )
[19:19] <andy123> ?
[19:19] <alket> sorry not andy123 , andrew____
[19:20] <andrew____> alket, Thanks, but does not work
[19:21] <andrew____> alket sublime text 3
[19:21] <andy123> andrew____: I dont understand your problem
[19:22] <andy123> you want to remove the window menu?
[19:22] <andrew____> show
[19:22] <andy123> how did it vanish?
[19:23] <andy123> try Alt+F3
[19:23] <andrew____> chose to menu - view
[19:24] <lordievader> andrew____: You need to be more descriptive of the problem if you want people to be able to help you.
[19:24] <andy123> andrew____: Alt+F3 brings up a menu?
[19:25] <andrew____> sorry for my english. In the 'View' menu choose Hide. Do not know how to get back
[19:25] <andy123> do you know the ALT key?
[19:26] <andrew____> andy123, alt-f3 menu window-kde,
[19:26] <andy123> you mean the KDE start menu?
[19:26] <alket> andrew____, open dolphin and navigate here : ~/.config/sublime-text-3/
[19:26] <alket> and delete everything
[19:26] <alket> and start sublime again
[19:27] <andrew____> alket thank you
[19:28] <andrew____> andy123, alt+v not work, alt+f3 show menu manager kde-window
[19:28] <andy123> andrew____: I didnt understand you had a problem with sublimeKDE program
[19:30] <alket> andrew____, follow this project if you like https://github.com/limetext/lime
[19:31] <alket> it will replace sublime soon
[19:34] <andrew____>  alket, thank you. I just want to replace the Intel XDK, too heavy for my tasks. be sure to look for your advice
[19:59] <Griz64> Hey Gang. Just did the update to the newest LTS and when running Muon, I get "This operation cannnot continue since proper authorization was not provided". Is there a known fix for this? I googled and found very little.
[21:20] <alvin> I installed network-manager-iodine, but it doesn't show up in the network-manager connections
[21:20] <alvin> !package network-manager-iodine
[21:22] <lordievader> !info network-manager-iodine
[21:22] <alvin> That's the one. It's a network-manager plugin, but it doesn't show up in the list
[21:23] <alvin> At least not in plasma's network-manager. It does in gnome. I tested by installing the nm-applet thingie.
[21:24] <lordievader> Reload the network manager?
[21:24] <alvin> Using both is meh... I wish network-manager had at least a working command line
[21:24] <alvin> lordievader: Tried. No change
[21:24] <alvin> I know there is a command line, but not for adding connections.
[21:54] <kristal> What's the best vanilla-GUI-style mail client? Thunderbird is bloated and buggy. On Windows long ago I used Opera Mail...
[21:55] <soee_> kmail ?
[21:56] <kristal> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9RVS8cjNN0 :)
[21:59] <Pici> claws-mail?
[22:00] <kristal> None feel as refined as Opera Mail. :( Although kmail seems like the best so far.
[22:08] <Noob1632> Hi
[22:08] <Noob1632> I'm looking for a replacement for Kmail
[22:08] <Phillies> evolution?
[22:08] <Noob1632> Native qt please
[22:09] <Noob1632> And pop3 enabled
[22:10] <soee_> none
[22:10] <Noob1632> None?
[22:11] <soee_> lets face it, kmail is only one qt client worth trying
[22:12] <Noob1632> I find KMail extremely hard to use with multiple mail accounts
[22:12] <soee_> im using thunderbird though as there was a lot of problem swit kmail
[22:12] <soee_> the only hope is to wait till vdg proposals make into live
[22:12] <kristal> i'm trying to use mail with 3 accounts.... it won't work with the second and third
[22:13] <Noob1632> And I usually access my mail accounts from multiple computers/places, so I need pop3
[22:14] <kristal> two of my accounts are pop and 1 imap... the second pop and the imap don't want to work, only whichever i have set to primary, hmm
[22:14] <kristal> server not available... but thunderbird and opera are working fine
[22:14] <Noob1632> So there is only Kmail as qt mail client that supports pop3?
[22:16] <lordievader> Noob1632: Arent you confusing it with imap? Pop3 usually downloads things to the localmachine and removes it from the server.
[22:17] <Noob1632> SeemsI am confusing it, yes, sorry
[22:22] <kristal> ok i give up, nuking kmail configs
[22:24] <alvin> There's trojita. Didn't try it though. And it's also based on Akonadi
[22:24] <Noob1632> So
[22:25] <Noob1632> Onwards to the next desktop
[22:25] <kristal> kmail works fine with 1 account, but it refuses to use more than one at a time, hmm
[22:25]  * alvin uses Kmail with 5 IMAP accounts
[22:26] <alvin> It's lots more stable since 4.13
[22:26] <kristal> i think it ruined itself because i told it to import from thunderbird
[22:26] <Noob1632> Well, thanks for your help, but it seems KDE is not made for me
[22:28] <soee_> by one app you judges whole DE ?
[22:29] <Noob1632> The Mail client is one of the most important applications for me
[22:29] <Noob1632> And if it's rocket science to set  up multiple accounts, then the whole DE is not made forme, yes
[22:30] <alvin> I agree. It might be the main reason to use KDE. Kmail is one of the most functional mail clients out there.
[22:30] <soee_> yuo can use any client you want
[22:30] <Noob1632> which qt clients are there?
[22:30] <Noob1632> I won*t use GTK crap
[22:31] <Noob1632> And I won't use thunderbird
[22:31] <alvin> Qt? I know only Kmail and Trojita
[22:31] <alvin> The Opera client might be Qt, or was at some point. I deleted it when they became Chrome.
[22:32] <alvin> Hey, there's even a Wikipedia entry for your question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Email_clients_that_use_Qt
[22:32] <Noob1632> Opera Next does not include a mail client anymore
[22:33] <soee_> ok so if you hate gtk apps and wont use it, there is not qt app for you than i think you should go to Windows and be happy what they offer to you ;)
[22:34] <Noob1632> Yes, maybe I am too demanding for Linux
[22:34] <tertu> i accepted long ago that i would have to use some gtk apps
[22:34] <Noob1632> Have you looked at the latest gtk stuff?
[22:35] <Noob1632> Client side decorations?
[22:35] <tertu> oh yeah
[22:35] <tertu> that... i am not terribly happy about
[22:35] <Noob1632> CSDs look completely alien
[22:35] <soee> ;D
[22:35] <Noob1632> And the GTK guys can stuff them where the sun never shines
[22:36] <soee> Noob1632: have faith in KDE, the Plasma5 is already awesome and it just a begining
[22:36] <Noob1632> Oh
[22:36] <Noob1632> Right
[22:36] <Noob1632> Plasma5
[22:37] <Noob1632> Biggest disappointment in years for me
[22:37] <soee> compared to Plasma 4 when it was released first time it is much better
[22:37] <soee> *imo
[22:38] <Noob1632> Well, my first impression was  very very bad
[22:38] <Noob1632> And you cannot change the first impression
[22:38] <soee> you can
[22:38] <Noob1632> No
[22:38] <soee> BluesKaj: tell him something about it :)
[22:38] <Noob1632> If your initial impression is bad, you will always have a bad feeling when yu try it again
[22:39] <Noob1632> And to me, it looks way to mobile optimized
[22:39] <soee> i can't agree
[22:39] <Noob1632> Too many hamburgers on the screen
[22:40] <Noob1632> Animations that mimic touchscreen wipes
[22:41] <soee> Noob1632: face it, the future are touch screens, mobiel devices etc
[22:41] <Noob1632> And a most oring ultra bright theme with pastel accents for good visibility on phone displays
[22:41] <Noob1632> Toys
[22:42] <Noob1632> For content consumption
[22:42] <soee> and you think KDE should stay behind ?
[22:42] <soee> it would die in 203 years
[22:42] <soee> *2-3
[22:42] <soee> product must be like clinets wants and atm. its all about mobile devicers etc
[22:42] <soee> *want
[22:43] <Noob1632> I see
[22:43] <Noob1632> Then i will have to stop using computers
[22:43] <soee> :)
[22:43] <Noob1632> One size does not fit all form factiors
[22:44] <Noob1632> And icons that make sense when smearing around on them on a unhygienic toy screen look way out of place on a desktop computer
[22:44] <soee> soon you wont need physical computer at home, it will load all stuff from coud and you will have projectors as screens and keyboard :)
[22:44] <Noob1632> Nobody will get a singel bit of data from me for cloud stoirage
[22:44] <Noob1632> And virtual keyboards suck big big tiem for tet production
[22:44] <Noob1632> text production
[22:44] <Noob1632> No feedback at all
[22:44] <soee> Noob1632: yes i know what you want to say, but 95% users jsut dont care to much about it
[22:45] <soee> it just hase to work for them
[22:45] <Noob1632> Then I am a 5% computer rebel now
[22:45] <soee> :D
[22:45] <Noob1632> Clos computing is solely invented for spying out peopel even more
[22:45] <Noob1632> Cloud
[22:46] <Noob1632> And everyone shoul stay away from it
[22:46] <kubik> KDE рулит, все остальное отстой!
[22:46] <soee> everything has pros and cons
[22:46] <soee> !ru
[22:46] <Noob1632> Cloud computing has no advantages imho
[22:46] <soee> it has
[22:46] <Noob1632> Except  gathering miore information and squeezing more money out of people
[22:47] <Noob1632> We changed our prices, now pay 200% more to access your data
[22:47] <Noob1632> Uhm, what?
[22:47] <soee> imagine company that has 1000 employes and it has to buy PS, OS licences ets for each. But if they use resources from private company cloud it is much cheaper
[22:48] <Noob1632> No sane boss will put the data of his company in the cloud
[22:48] <soee> there are already such companies :)
[22:48] <Noob1632> Cloud computing is extremely unpopular here where I live
[22:51] <Noob1632> Anyway, off to try  other DEs, bye