=== markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away [01:16] Hey guys, I currently try to find auditing tools and generally I'm struggling to find anything "recent". There is tiger (which last release was in 2008 iirc) and ossec (which is more what I was looking for) but it seems that the community around ossec is dead. Which tools provide similar functionality (centralized logging, processing and action taking) but not require 3 years of learning to get them running? [01:21] i did the 14.04 upgrade and lost www userdirs. i've followed the instructions on google top hits for ubuntu 14.04 apache2 errors of this sort, and i am still getting 403s on userdir. === exixt_ is now known as exixt === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat === broder__ is now known as broder_ === Az is now known as Guest22215 [02:08] anyone have a suggestion for a music server to run on Ubuntu 14.04 headless, that will have smart playlists and update playcounts? === Guest22215 is now known as Azaril === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 === fridaynext is now known as bowser69 [05:35] i did the 14.04 upgrade and lost www userdirs. i've followed the instructions on google top hits for ubuntu 14.04 apache2 errors of this sort, and i am still getting 403s on userdir. [05:36] is userdirs enabled? [05:47] ja [05:47] cryptodan: yes [05:48] any special .htaccess files? [05:48] this is all such, no userdir content is working [05:49] cryptodan: [Mon Nov 10 19:19:08.955340 2014] [authz_core:error] [pid 10645] [client XXXX:42030] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /home/XXXX/public_html [05:49] looks like you have .htaccess files [05:49] but that is where none exists [05:50] do an ls -la on public_html [05:50] ha [05:50] i think i just figured it out :-) [05:51] .htaccess is a hidden file [05:51] ZorroT: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/upgrading.html [05:51] if you went from 2.2 to 2.4, read that. [05:53] i had done the various upgrade procedures, grant, etc. [05:53] what i had forgotten was that this server has a non-standard user web directory [05:53] so of course all of the directives referring to public_html won't help :-) [05:54] ID-10-T error. [05:54] non-standard? [05:55] "other than public_html" [05:59] for i changed public_html references in userdir.conf, php5.conf and now everything is humming along happily. [06:00] id recommend keeping the standard way [06:09] cryptodan: i didn't ask, but thanks. [06:09] there are perfectly good reasons that it is the way it is, and apache is amenable to allowing other than default options. [06:11] i thought i remembered explicitly telling the upgrade process to leave the configs alone [06:11] in which case, the normal documentation for the upgrade process would have applied correctly [06:12] this was the upgrade problem plus me overlooking the difference between the defaults and the existing installation's expectations. [06:12] i apologize for bringing that to channel :-) [06:17] It was just a recommendation nothing to insult you [06:22] typically, one doesn't change server defaults for purposes of whimsy. tone doesn't carry well on irc :-) [06:23] also, thank you for your help, cryptodan and mardraum ! [06:24] you are welcome === zz_DenBeiren is now known as DenBeiren [08:17] Good morning. === lordieva1er_ is now known as lordievader_ === DenBeiren is now known as zz_DenBeiren === zz_DenBeiren is now known as DenBeiren === DenBeiren is now known as zz_DenBeiren === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === exixt is now known as exixt_ === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 [10:25] hi there, what can I use to select the fastest apt mirror? netselect-apt is not in the repos anymore. any ideas? [10:46] What`s the most lightweight GUI for ubuntu server? [10:50] Amir2: xfce/lubuntu === zz_DenBeiren is now known as DenBeiren === liam_ is now known as Guest26825 [14:03] about to head in for a devops interview. ask me thangs I should know ! [14:18] somebody who knows why autocomplete og apt-get install only works when I am not doing so by sudo? [14:20] malinux, i believe its a setting in your profiles . [14:21] ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile [14:21] so if root has the same setting it should work [14:21] root profiles will be in /root/* === snuffeluffegus is now known as pizza === pizza is now known as snuffeluffegus [14:31] delinquentme: hm, det root user don't have a .bashrc [14:31] it has, I sudo -i to root and it has [14:31] so I will check ito ut [14:33] delinquentme: autocomplete works when in root shell, but not when I do the same as sudo [14:33] I enabled autcomplete in the .bashrc for root [14:33] by uncommenting the lines [14:41] malinux: enable the bash-completion in /etc/bash.bashrc [14:41] Kartagis: already done so [14:41] did you source it afterwards? [14:42] by running: . /etc/bash.bashrc ? [14:42] yes [14:42] or shoud I run source /etc/bash.bashrc ? [14:42] dosen't work either [14:44] if I try to autocompelte firefox, I get: [14:44] malin@malin-M15a:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox [14:44] firefox firefox_29.0+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.2.dsc [14:44] firefox_29.0+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.2.debian.tar.gz firefox_29.0+build1.orig.tar.bz2 [14:59] hi all [15:00] Hellop [15:00] I'm actually installing ubuntu server [15:00] and after I finish installing it, I will install Xen as hypervisor [15:01] my question is, should I install Ubuntu Gnome Desktop or whatever WM ? [15:01] I wouldn't do that though [15:01] whats wrong with the terminal [15:02] zoraj: No WM at all? [15:02] well, as I said, I will install Xen, so how Xen will show up Win 7 guest if it's totally in terminal [15:02] maybe a silly question ^^ [15:02] I was being silly heh [15:03] zoraj: Servers rarely have a display attached. The display to VM is usually supplied through VNC or something. [15:03] I'd prefer full terminal, but I will gonna install Xen, will it be necessary that at least I install gnome or something like that [15:04] lordievader, I know, I am just wondering since it will be a hypervisor dom 0 [15:04] it's not a standard server, as it will host fully graphical OS [15:05] (Win7, Win 8) [15:07] so, my question is, will I have to install gnome or whatever WM, (atm, I am on the package choice screen) [15:08] this is my first step with Xen, [15:09] have to? no [15:13] any suggestions? :) [15:13] Wait waht [15:16] ok, I'm continuing the installation, [15:17] You got it. [15:21] should I consider an reinstall of my entire Ubuntu-install, to get sudo apt-get install to autocomplete correct? === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew [15:33] malinux: What? [15:33] malinux: Do you mean to say that you have broken packages? [15:34] lordievader: no, I say that apt-get install won't autcomplete when I do it as sudo. example: sudo apt-get install it dosen not autcomplete pacakges, but things in /usr/bin and equal [15:34] not the package-things [15:35] lordievader: it works if I go to a root-shell or do it as user [15:35] apt-get install is useless as user [15:35] and if I have to enter the rootshell to get it work, that's a workaround and not a solution :) [15:38] malinux: That is likely due to your shell. [15:38] lordievader: okey, so what is wrong with it? :) [15:38] echo $SHELL returns /bin/bash [15:38] malinux: Probable the config. [15:39] lordievader: ok, I can pastebin the .bashrc ? [15:40] this is my .bashrc: 16:23 < dr0> apt-get install sudo [15:40] 16:23 < selx> apt-get install dr0 [15:40] 16:23 < dr0> malinux: neida [15:40] 16:23 < dr0> :-P [15:40] 16:25 < selx> malinux: jeg aner ikke. Har ikke hatt så mye problemer med det du driver med... [15:40] 16:25 < malinux> selx: nei, har debian server og ubuntu desktop [15:40] 16:25 < malinux> har samme problemet begge steder by the way [15:40] 16:25 < malinux> dr0: sudo er installert på både debian-serveren og på Ubuntu-desktopen min [15:40] 16:26 < selx> aha :P [15:40] 16:26 < RoyK> tror godeste Carlsen sliter litt :P [15:40] 16:27 < malinux> hører rykter [15:40] 16:27 < malinux> selx: ja. så vet ikke hva jeg skal gjøre jeg :S [16:27] [malinux(+Zi)] [3:FreeNode/#ubuntu-no-offtopic(+cnt)] [Act: 1,2,4,5,6,8,9,11,14,16,17,18,20,21,22,23,24,28,29,31,35] === bowser69 is now known as fridaynext [15:40] [#ubuntu-no-offt] har installert autoco [15:40] oops sorry [15:40] oh,. sorry [15:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8942743/ [15:40] here it is [15:41] tack :) [15:41] the goddamn grub wont install on mbr [15:41] :\ [15:41] and a blazing red screen appears as it says, fatal error [15:41] does anyone here use subsonic for music streaming? [15:43] malinux: I rarely use bash, so I won't be any help there ;) [15:43] lordievader: ah [15:44] what do you use? [15:44] ZSH. [15:47] lordievader: hm, I could try to change to zsh :) [15:49] lordievader: autcomplete as sudo works there, and the colors of that shell is awesome, Think I just change :) [15:54] malinux: works well for me with bash, though [15:57] RoyK: okey, it dosen't help me a lot :p hm, I am such of a noob that can't even change default shell to zsh [15:57] and by changing the shell I don't fix the original issue [15:57] RoyK: it works when you in user prompt, type sudo apt-get install ? [15:59] yep [15:59] malinux: chsh -s /bin/zsh username [15:59] did that [16:00] but when I open a terminal, it opens to bash [16:00] hm, maybe I forgot to add username [16:00] malinux: if you did, then you probably changed root's shell [16:00] RoyK: why do you think I changed the root's shell? [16:01] now I did again as user an added my username to user [16:01] exited the terminal [16:01] reopenend with ctrl + alt + t [16:01] it starts a bash-shell [16:01] bah [16:01] malinux: if you were root and ran chsh -s /bin/zfs, that changes the shell for thecurrent user [16:01] RoyK: ok [16:01] malinux: no idea - I'll be back here in an hour or so [16:02] okey :) [16:02] RoyK: tried with sudo now, to change, nothing. [16:03] malinux: bbl [16:03] I hate computers, but I can't live without them [16:23] after a reboot, the shell is now zsh as default. Is the syntax the same as for bash? I have to readd aliases === tgm4883_ is now known as tgm4883 [16:33] hallyn: any idea why libvirt ftbfs on vivid? [16:49] mdeslaur: libxml2 security update [16:49] mdeslaur: if you dpkg -i the previous version it builds [16:49] i filed a bug. the response was basically 'you figure out why'. which isn't unreasonable - it may be a mis-use by libvirt [16:50] hi all, [16:50] how to start service corosync on ubuntu 14.04 [16:51] root@db3:/home/fandi# service corosync start [16:51] there is no answer. thanks [16:52] fandi: What does "sudo service corosync status" return? [16:53] same no return :) [16:53] how to be manage by upstart [16:54] hallyn: oh, hrm, where's the bug? [16:54] mdeslaur: bug 1390637 [16:54] Launchpad bug 1390637 in libxml2 "newest libxml2 update in vivid breaks libvirt build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1390637 [16:55] mdeslaur: i'm about to just ask on oftc#virt just to see if anyone knows offhand. [16:58] hallyn: hrm, haven't look at all, but perhaps this: https://git.gnome.org/browse/libxml2/commit/?id=72a46a519ce7326d9a00f0b6a7f2a8e958cd1675 [16:58] hallyn: I'll poke at it this afternoon [16:59] mdeslaur: oh, good, that one does look promising. excellent, thanks for looking, ping me if you need anything [17:00] hallyn: although, libxml2 in the stable releases should cause the ftbfs also, so maybe that's not it [17:00] anyway, I'll poke at it === LinStatSDR_ is now known as LinStatSDR [17:25] hallyn: bingo: http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commit;h=8f17d0eaae7ee2fa3e214b79b188fc14ed5aa1eb [17:25] hallyn: want to give that a try? [17:28] mdeslaur: will do, thx [17:32] mdeslaur: test-building, but danpb agrees that'll be the fix [17:32] hallyn: cool [17:32] hallyn: if it builds, don't upload, I've got security patches to add, so just tell me [17:33] hallyn: rather, give me your debdiff [17:34] lordievader, ok done, i thinks i miss ntp [17:34] lordievader, now it's working [17:34] mdeslaur: ok, will do [17:34] fandi: Hmm, okay. Good to hear :) [18:11] mdeslaur: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt.debdiff , gonna do one more test build [18:29] hallyn: built fine for me too, so uploading with security fixes [18:29] hallyn: thanks! [18:32] mdeslaur: great, thank you! [18:50] hallyn: just read the "containers are better" thread, ha ha [18:51] pmatulis: I'm waiting to see how he blows his fuse when he reads my last reply [18:53] hallyn: tbh, it's funny that i always read that sentence the way it was intended but i can easily see others getting confused if ① you do not keep the whole paragraph in mind and ② you're not a native speaker [18:53] all right, the color for names of ppl calling out my nick (yellow) is not working for me on white bg :) [18:53] neat how you did that _1_ and _2_ [18:53] ;) [18:53] but yeah, i agree. the funny thing is, [18:54] 1. he won't accep tthat maybe he's missing a subtlety of hte language, and 2. he won't accept that maybe he committed a similar faux pas in several of his emails [18:54] but maybe i'm giving him too much credit an dhe really is just an angry troll [18:55] * med_ wonders where the mythical "containers are better" thread lives.... [18:55] med_: ubuntu-doc m/l [18:57] med_: in the end I am in fact not a native english speaker, so i do accept that i make mistakes [19:00] but basically i only defer to my wife :) and she agrees with me. so [19:00] badabing badaboom [19:00] speaking of this, time to check for a response [19:00] serge, what's your birth language? [19:00] English :) [19:01] and she's a bit of a stickler with it [19:01] hallyn: how does that make you not a native speaker? [19:04] hi guys [19:04] med_: oh, *mine*. haha. french, then dutch. whic his funny bc i've forgotten all my french [19:04] anyone here know much about vpn [19:05] Valduare: go ahead and ask your q. someone her eor in #ubuntu-devel will be able to help, most likely [19:10] I have some mk808 devices android sticks i want to have on same network as my ubuntu server [19:10] but they are in separate physical locations [19:10] so vpn is the way to do that. [19:10] looks like there are a lot of different options ie openVPN and tinc [19:10] need someone knowledgable to help walk me through this new world of vpn :P [19:13] * hallyn checks the server guide [19:16] wondering what the dif between ipsec and things like openvpn does ssh tuneling? [19:18] Valduare: I guess https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openvpn.html is the place to look [19:20] Valduare: The layer at which it happens. Openvpn is application layer. [19:34] more that just that :) [19:34] ipsec is strictly a transport thing, it is limited, and that limitation causes people problems (mtu) [19:35] openvpn works around the mtu issue, so it's normally *easier* to setup and use, but it has it's own built in routing and is not a *standard* thing, so compatability issues can exist [19:36] with openVPN i need their app for android or ios or mac or windows to connect to it though [19:36] but these devices have built in vpn connectors for other types of vpn servers? [19:37] or do I just not worry about going with the built in route and use openVPN [19:37] how do you expect us to answer that? [19:37] we are not you [19:38] going the builtin support is normally better [19:38] but if you know nothing about ipsec [19:38] I really would not recommend going down that path [19:38] unless you REALLY want to learn it [19:38] IPsec is good for headaches... [19:39] Especially if you are new to it ;) [19:39] ^ that [19:39] so then tinc vs openVPN? [20:05] Valduare: openvpn is a point to point sort of thing. tinc is more of a mesh sort of thing. [20:06] ah [20:06] so openVPN might be whaat im looking for then [20:06] i have a webserver app that I want it to see these mk808 android devices as local [20:11] If you're trying to connect android devices, ipsec is going to be the most practical way; it is a pain, but openvpn requires hacking your rom to install last I checked [20:18] hmm ok [20:33] qman__: openVPN runs fine on my android, stock fw [20:34] None of my android devices have openvpn support, and the app requires installing libraries manually to add it [20:35] Not just root [20:35] hmmm worked out of the box with the openvpn app here [20:36] so is openvpn something i’d install on my web server that i want the android devices to connect to [20:36] or would i setup a second virtual machien thats dedicated openvpn appliance [20:36] Generally you'd want a separate server [20:37] i've got a pi set up as my openvpn server [20:37] Another vm is fine [20:37] It doesn't hurt to try it, but in my experience, openvpn on android is generally a no-go [20:37] I use a separate vm with smoothwall express 3 as a virtual router to hold my public ip address and then an internal nic for the vm’s under it [20:38] That was my main motivation to set up ipsec over l2tp [20:38] so then one of the vm’s under it is the web server app === Mogwai is now known as Guest95370 [20:45] qman__: Huh, I've never had issues with OpenVPN on Android. [20:46] * keithzg literally uses it daily, on a variety of (Nexus or Motorola) Android devices. [20:48] I have a variety of samsung and htc devices, and it has never worked with stock fw or cyanogenmod [20:48] works fine with my galaxy note 3 and macbook air [20:49] never had any issues [20:49] I actually haven't tried on cm11 yet though [20:49] qman__: which Android client have you been trying to use? The older one that's still out there definitely was flaky for me. [20:50] is there a ppa with samba 4.1.13? [20:50] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.openvpn.openvpn is the one that's worked fine for me. [20:50] The point, though, is that ipsec / l2tp has native support on all androids, ipads, and windows [20:51] Well . . . fair enough I guess. OpenVPN has been super-easy for me for setup (hell, at home my router even has it built in) and if your version of Android is from the last 2 years or so you definitely don't need root. [20:51] Never used that one [20:52] It's just an app you install, you copy over your certs and .ovpn config file and you're done. [20:54] Ah, no tap support, wouldn't work on my setup anyway, but good to know it exists and has some level of support [20:59] only one tiny step from succefull new installation [20:59] :\ [20:59] it wont install grub [20:59] wth ! [21:00] Lilo isn't an option since it seems Xen doesnt work with Lilo [21:03] zoraj: It won't install grub... Could you be more descriptive? [21:04] it says "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda" [21:04] zoraj: Gui installer or manually? [21:04] I have a hd RAID 0 [21:04] no gui [21:05] terminal ftw [21:05] I think I messed up with partition, what I chosed is Use entire hd and LVM [21:06] zoraj: Perhaps it is usefull to have a /boot. [21:06] what else should I have ? [21:06] what are the mandatory ? [21:07] zoraj: / is mandatory, everything else can be omitted. [21:07] so you are saying, better to manually create the partition [21:07] coz as I said, I chosed "Use entire disk" [21:07] I got / partition [21:07] zoraj: No one said that manually createing partitions is "better". [21:08] It has been my experience that grub + lvm directy to be a drag. [21:08] Sounds like you might be using fakeraid; if you are, don't [21:08] fakeraid ?? [21:09] I'm installing it on a Dell PowerEdge with 4 HD in RAID 0 [21:09] "Hardware" raid controllers that aren't actually hardware raid controllers, such as onboard ones [21:10] Linux software raid is in all ways superior to fakeraid, so there's no reason to use it [21:11] I am convinced that it's all about how I partionned the whole HD, but I dunno where [21:12] second time I install it this evening, and always stucked on grub [21:15] Linux software raid and a decent HBA is superior to most low and mid range real hardware raid too, you have to spend good money to do better and even then you trade a lot of versatility for a performance edge [21:16] well, sound like too advanced for me for now, all I need is setting up my ubuntu server up and running === spons is now known as sponsjeee === bilde2910 is now known as bilde2910|away === LinStatSDR_ is now known as LinStatSDR === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 [22:35] mdeslaur: now are you pushing any libvirt updates for t or u? [22:36] hallyn: I did this afternoon [22:36] hallyn: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2404-1/ [22:37] cool, thanks [22:37] shoulda looke dmore closely at the changelog date === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === sync0new is now known as sync0pate === sync0pate is now known as Guest74110 [23:47] How do you stop a service from running at boot if all you can access is the file system? [23:48] what do you mean? [23:49] Exactly what I said [23:52] its rather confusing "when you can only access the file system" what does that mean?