=== chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:04] maybe this is interesting for touch? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/mozilla-releases-firefox-developer-edition === duflu__ is now known as duflu === pitti` is now known as pitti === zhxt is now known as zhxt_work [07:46] good morning === raj` is now known as raj [07:55] dholbach, good morning to you! [07:56] hi liuxg [08:11] hi all! [08:11] Where can I translate this notification area: http://s28.postimg.org/rkrnfjvt9/image.png? [08:33] Can somebody help me with my previous question? [08:35] robertopero: hiya... [08:38] dpm: seems sync-monitor is not translated/translatable? https://translations.launchpad.net/sync-monitor [08:42] popey, it should be, just somewhere else: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/sync-monitor [08:42] aha [08:47] marcustomlinson: hi! At the UOA, we'll have a session about Online Accounts, and we'll talk about scopes as well [08:47] marcustomlinson: we are preparing some slides, but I'm afraid I need your help for the scopes part [08:51] Saviq: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-11-11-085054.png seen this? Stalls between first two scopes _every_ time. [08:51] popey, known issue, being worked on [08:51] \o/ [08:51] thanks [08:51] popey, is because when you switch, further scopes are being queried [08:52] bug #1384374 [08:52] bug 1384374 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Dash pauses/stutters during scope switching left/right" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384374 [08:52] and related bug #1384393 [08:52] bug 1384393 in unity8 (Ubuntu RTM) "Photos in scope not visible until all loaded" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384393 [08:52] k, thanks for the bug links. [09:01] mardy: if you run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libunity-scopes-doc [09:01] mardy: then in your browser navigate to: file:///usr/share/doc/unity-scopes/index.html#online_accounts [09:01] mardy: There's some instructions that you may be able to work off? [09:02] marcustomlinson: cool, thanks [09:02] marcustomlinson: do you know where I can get the source of some scope using OA? Maybe the youtube one? [09:03] mardy: probably the simplest example of its use is in: lp:~hanloon-team/hanloon/fb-photos [09:05] mardy: otherwise for a more complex callback method: lp:unity-scope-youtube [09:05] mardy: not that complex :p just a little more [09:09] popey: Thanks. [09:32] Good morning all; happy Origami Day! \o/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === VargaD_ is now known as VargaD [09:47] mardy: ping [09:47] marcustomlinson: pong [09:48] mardy: having some trouble getting a soundcloud account working. This is what I get after hitting the log-in button on the embedded webpage: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8937481/ [09:48] mardy: can you decrypt that? Anything there that tells you what I may be doing wrong? [09:50] marcustomlinson: serverReply : "{"error":"invalid_client"}" [09:51] marcustomlinson: this what we get from the server [09:51] mardy: does that mean my client id and/or secret is wrong? [09:55] marcustomlinson: that's a possibility, but most likely there's something wrong with the OAuth parameters [09:58] mardy: ok thanks for the help [09:58] marcustomlinson: try using the web_server mechanism [09:59] mardy: yeah I am [09:59] mardy: anything look wrong here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8937552/ [10:00] marcustomlinson: remove "Display", IIRC it's facebook specific [10:00] marcustomlinson: but I doubt that's the reason for the failure [10:00] marcustomlinson: try changing the response_type to "token" [10:00] mardy: k, trying [10:02] pitti, dpm, i got this mail for a UITK upload yesterday ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/8937080/ do kalikiana (who made teh change) or i have to be worried ? [10:03] ogra_: err yes, that's broken [10:03] indeed, no header [10:03] pitti, could youo help kalikiana to fix it ? [10:04] ogra_, it'd be great to fix the actual error, yes. Although not as critical as the UITK template itself. This template has only translations for the component showcase app [10:05] which is a bit weird as https://launchpadlibrarian.net/188923899/ubuntu-ui-toolkit_1.1.1279%2B14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1_1.1.1311%2B15.04.20141102-0ubuntu1.diff.gz actually does have a pot header [10:06] mardy: still not. Anything here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8937853/ [10:09] ogra_: oh, it's the showcase [10:09] I didn't touch that [10:09] lemme check [10:10] that one does look broken indeed [10:11] marcustomlinson: weird. Then try using the user_agent mechanism... [10:11] marcustomlinson: when registering the app, are you asked some questions? maybe there's something there [10:12] mardy: I'm just trying to add the account from settings [10:12] marcustomlinson: like, whether your app is running in a web server, or if it's a native client, etc.? [10:12] marcustomlinson: I mean, when you create your app in soundcloud [10:12] mardy: oh right, I didn't register it. pete did, whose not in :/ [10:14] mardy: using user_agent doesn't even start the signon process when I click SoundCloud [10:16] kenvandine: sorry, had just left before your ping last night. I'll take a look [10:17] marcustomlinson: weird. logs= [10:17] ? [10:21] mardy: oh sorry, forgot to change [10:22] mardy: now I'm getting a "Choose password for new keyring" prompt popping up [10:22] marcustomlinson: are you testing on the desktop? [10:22] mardy: yes [10:23] mardy: when I enter a passowrd it works! [10:23] marcustomlinson: something happened to your keyring, looks like it got locked [10:23] mardy: so by changing it to user_agent and token return fixes it [10:23] marcustomlinson: OK, good to know [10:23] mardy: can you briefly explain why? [10:24] marcustomlinson: you can also remove the ClientSecret, then -- it's not used in the client flow [10:24] marcustomlinson: both mechanisms should work, it'd not clear to me why the web_server mechanism doesn't [10:24] mardy: ok so I also removed the Display entry, removing ClientSecret and trying again... [10:25] marcustomlinson: but for example with google, when you create your app, you must choose (on the server) which mechanism you'll use [10:25] marcustomlinson: and you get different IDs depending on the mechanism [10:25] marcustomlinson: it may be that the app in soundcloud is configured to use a certain mechanism [10:25] mardy: ok cool, thanks so much dude! [10:26] marcustomlinson: np; when Pete is online, you can ask him to verify the app [10:27] marcustomlinson: but anyway, there's no need to change it now that it works :-) [10:27] mardy: yep :) [10:27] dednick, hey, could you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/orientation-use-binding/+merge/241254 ? [10:33] seb128: huh? why are we changing that? it should be working the way i changed it surely? [10:33] dednick, cf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1390643 [10:33] Ubuntu bug 1390643 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Orientation lock switch doesn't notice gsettings changes" [High,In progress] [10:33] dednick, toggling the control manually undo the binding and makes it not notice backend changes anymore [10:34] seb128: that comment from lars was based on how it used to be [10:34] not how it is now [10:34] seb128: checked: systemSettings.rotationLock [10:34] dednick, ok, I was trying to follow Saviq's advice and use a Binding{} [10:35] seb128: the "property bool serverChecked: systemSettings.rotationLock" will not be destroyed. [10:35] k [10:35] so is the issue that your fix didn't land in rtm? [10:35] seb128: yep. kenvandine as proposed a branch already [10:35] k [10:35] sorry for the noise [10:35] seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/rtm-lp1336715.check.sync/+merge/241360 [10:36] seb128: no worries [10:36] yeah, I just commented on that saying it's buggy, but wrongly :p [10:36] going to teach me to test things on krillin === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [11:38] Aieeee, the flash-progress spinner is even larger now [11:39] depends on your resolution :) [11:40] ogra_: happen to know if tvoss is on vacation or sick leave? [11:58] tbr, he is around [11:59] ok, thanks [12:48] mhall119: finally the new version of accounts-qml-module-doc has landed; could you please upload that to the website? [12:49] mhall119: also, I wonder if I could get access to the CMS powering the site? I'd really like to fix the newlines in the guide (and also to understand why some titles are black and others are orange) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:33] Hi. Where can I find a list of applications that have already been crosscompiled? Specifically, I'm trying to find out if "mnemosyne" has already been crosscompiled. [13:34] what do you mean by "crosscompiled" ? [13:35] I read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CrossCompile [13:36] and got the impression that software from Ubuntu Desktop need to be crosscompiled so they can be used on Ubuntu Touch [13:37] Chris__: well, there's a bit more to it than that. there may be an armhf port of mnemosyne, but it probably relies on X11 (given it's a kde thing) (from a brief look) [13:38] yep, does not work well without X11 :-) [13:38] Chris__, all ubuntu SW is available for the arm architecture ... you dont need to cross compile anything [13:39] @ogra: where can i find that list of sw? [13:39] http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/ <--- seems to be aimed at developers [13:40] i'm basically just trying to find out if all the apps i'd like to use on ubuntu touch are available before i buy a tablet [13:41] Chris__: the vast majority of what's in the archive wont work on the touch tablet right now [13:41] there are a few 100 apps in the app store ... and while you can make your system use apt, this is rather fr developers (breaks on upgrades (which are not supported after you make the system writable) etc [13:41] because the graphical tools need x [13:43] if you eagerly want something from the ubuntu archive to work on the tablet, yu would have to re-pack it into a click package ... and if it is UI stuff you would need to make it work with the touch framework (Qt, QML, Mir) [13:43] (if you want to do it proper at least ... as i said, you can always use apt but lose upgradeability) [14:00] barry: ping about system-image behaviour on wonky networks [14:01] just make the networks unwonky :) [14:02] ogra_: uehuehuehueh [14:10] barry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1388058/comments/26 fwiw [14:10] Error: ubuntu bug 1388058 not found [14:11] ops [14:17] Chipaca: i'll bet this is LP: #1390205 [14:17] Launchpad bug 1390205 in ubuntu-download-manager "udm falls over on the switch from wifi to 3g meaning ota are stuck and the system can't recover till reboot" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1390205 [14:18] barry: that's a different failure mode though [14:18] barry: I'm cutting off the network while you're getting the json bits from the server [14:18] not leaving you connectionless, but you'd need to retry [14:19] and you don't, and don't report an error === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:20] Chipaca: i wouldn't expect system-image to retry without being ask to via dbus [14:21] barry: that's fair; I wouldn't expect system-image to not raise an error when it got one [14:21] Chipaca: and it will only forward errors it gets from udm if it gets them. often what happens is udm just stops sending signals and then si times out and that's all we know [14:21] barry: you download the json bits using udm also? [14:21] Chipaca: yep [14:22] aaahhhh [14:22] *all* downloads happen through udm [14:22] ok, then yes it's probably that bug [14:22] mandel: all your fault, see! [14:22] :) [14:22] not sure if we should dupe the private bug [14:22] mandel: at least we're in known territory now :-P === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew === cwayne is now known as cwayne-afk [15:42] kenvandine: ping [15:44] Chipaca, barry I'm already on it, I found the culprit lines and I'm investigating why QSytemNetworkInfo does not work, I'll probably will remove that dep and implement a simpler solution [15:44] and we are all happy [15:44] mandel: oh, i'm happy already :) [15:48] mandel: \o/ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [15:57] willcooke, you seem to be the only track lead for the Development track around. Could you perhaps put the webapps sessions in the schedule? You should see them at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-12/display?edit and it would make dbarth happy :) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:58] dpm, negative. No web apps sessions showing up, or in the review queue [15:59] dpm: the webapps ones are in my queue [15:59] dpm: i already scheduled them [15:59] ah, thanks willcooke and popey [16:06] barry: hey dude, by modding /etc/system-image/channel.ini should I get a notification of a new image or is that out of scope? The download and everything worked but I got no notification for there being a new image [16:07] davmor2: i'm not entirely sure. one thing you might need to do is to restart system-image-dbus since it doesn't reload the channel.ini file when it changes [16:07] barry: I was restarting after changing the info [16:08] speaking of system update notifications, that requires the system-image server to do something, right? [16:09] davmor2: i'm not actually sure how notifications work. if they are using the D-Bus .Information() method, then they should get the fibbing current_build_number after si-dbus restart. after a CheckForUpdate they should see that there's a new update available [16:09] dobey: Chipaca might be a good person to ask. i'm not sure if the system-image update notification architecture is published somewhere [16:09] verterok: ^^ how does the system-image update notifications work, technically? system-image server pokes the push sserver? [16:10] Chipaca: ^ is this something you can chime in on? [16:10] d'oh barry beat me to it :) [16:10] * dobey bets Chipaca will say "ask verterok" :) [16:10] davmor2: maybe. [16:11] dobey: what's the question again? [16:11] Chipaca: is it documented, the way that notifications of system image updates works? [16:11] Chipaca: how exactly system-image update notifications work [16:11] there is an amount of inefficiency in update notifications that I hope we get around to fixing at some point, but [16:12] there is a cron job running on a server in magic la-la land somewhere [16:12] when it detects an update, it broadcasts it [16:12] over push [16:12] the push client gets the broadcast, checks it against what it's running (channel, revno, etc), and transforms it into a "regular" (unicast) notification and hands it over to the system settings push helper [16:13] Chipaca: i'm asking, because i just realized that i'm not getting any update notifications on my n5, probably because it's on a different system-image server. so i am wondering if we can enable it somehow [16:13] the push helper talks to system image, tells it to go check [16:13] Chipaca: So we are trying to mimic what happens on an older image to update to current but but testing the current software so we know that ota going forward actually work. To do that we set the /etc/system-image/channel.ini version numbers to n-10, I then reboot if I go to the updates page it will grab the image an flash it, however I get no notification will we need to do something else [16:13] and depending on your config that'll result in an actual notification immediately (if you have auto-donwloads off), or when the download is done. Or never because bugs :) [16:14] Chipaca: is there any way to debug why the "never" condition happens exactly? :) [16:14] dobey: yes, and there's a bug about that. rtm ppa 14 has an updated system settings with a debug logging push helper [16:15] dobey: so far it seems it's a bug in udm that causes it [16:15] dobey: about the n5, if it's not in the official servers, check with verterok and __lucio__; maybe we can add it to the cron [16:15] dobey: verterok has an n5 too, so :) [16:15] Chipaca: so, my nexus4 seems to get the notifications just fine (it always has a blue light blinking when i walk into my office in the morning). but my n5, it never gets them [16:16] right :) [16:16] Chipaca: the main thing to remember is that after modifying channel.ini, system-image-dbus process must be restarted. you can issue .Exit() D-Bus call to it and let it re-activate (though you need to ensure the process is exited, which means a small sleep or waiting on its pid, which is tricky to find) [16:16] barry: davmor2 said he restarted, so that should cover it [16:16] cool [16:17] also, it's davmor2 doing the funky testing [16:17] davmor2: so ... you need to nuke the levels db, also [16:17] davmor2: and then it should work, i think? although i'm not 100% on that [16:17] davmor2: stop ubuntu-push-client; rm ~/.local/share/ubuntu-push-client/levels.db [16:18] davmor2: (as phablet) [16:18] Chipaca: cheers I'll give it a go now thanks [16:18] the levels is what's used to determine what was the last broadcat the device saw [16:18] nuke that, and you'll get a broadcast :) [16:19] barry: the push mechanism is documented, but i think the broadcast mechanism isn't -- because it's internal [16:19] it's not a published api [16:20] Chipaca: ack [16:20] (because there's no public endpoint for it) [16:20] Chipaca, barry: awesome thanks guys [16:20] davmor2: thank me if it works :) [16:21] Chipaca: it kinda did but I think the image was already downloaded so I'm going to do it again from the installed system and ensure it works as expected and then update the instructions :) [16:21] davmor2: yw! [16:33] Mirv: so what is the plan or what do you need in order to land the qt nam patches in 5.3 ? [16:33] Chipaca, barry: Yay from a freshly install 155 I backed it up to 145, removed the levels.db and .writable_image and rebooted, so the Read only system gave me a notification, downloaded the image and is flashing now I'd say that was a success thanks again guys :) [16:34] Mirv: re bug 1357321 [16:34] bug 1357321 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[TOPBLOCKER] QNetworkAccessManager doesn't support roaming on Ubuntu" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357321 [16:35] kgunn: I don't have further patches to land, but we need network experts to understand what's happening now that Qt works as it's supposed to. Wellark has been debugging for a couple of hours, awe could be another one. [16:36] kgunn: unless we find what's asking for the reconnects incorrectly, we can't land the fixed qtbase [16:36] thanks Mirv, ChickenCutlass ^ [16:36] davmor2: \o/ [16:36] olli: ^ catching up on the QNAM bug [16:37] Saviq: https://twitter.com/transfornes/status/532187595334516737 [16:37] >:) [16:40] Chipaca, dobey: sorry was deep into debugging some sweird bug and missed the hilight. yes, it can be done (add the n5 image server into the mix) [16:42] popey, Saviq: well I could show that person my super powerz.... [16:42] Wellark, I don't wanna know [16:44] Saviq: there are lot of fun things you can do with those unicorn masks from washington.. [16:44] naturally I saved one from getting lost [16:44] It's now staring at me on my desk [16:49] hi ,can i get help on a iissue i am facing? [16:52] WebVisitor-5: if you don't tell us what it is, probably not [16:53] ok let me tell you.I am trying to get OSx like multitouch feature in ubuntu 14.04 with the help you touchegg but couldnot get it worked [16:55] @Chipaca. touchegg is only recognizing upto two finger gestures. and even three .four finger as two finger drag [16:55] any help on how can i get it worked? [16:57] WebVisitor-5: i don't, and http://askubuntu.com/q/544821/711 tells me it's not yet easy to answer [16:58] WebVisitor-5: maybe ask touchegg? [16:58] even i posted a similar question. [16:58] over there [17:00] i followed this solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/451386/how-to-achieve-multi-touch-gestures-in-ubuntu-14-04 === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === om26er_ is now known as om26er [17:59] verterok: cool [18:22] so I updated to RTM #7, and tried taking a screenshot, it makes a sound and flashes the screen, but where does it put the image? [18:22] mhall119, in the clouds ! [18:22] if you tell me we have background file-sync capabilities now, I'm going to kiss you [18:22] lol [18:23] no, you got to step outdoors and take a photo fo the sky :P [18:23] heh [18:23] (i would expect it to end up on Pictures though) [18:23] It's synced to the /dev/null cloud! [18:24] it does, but those aren't displayed in the gallery [18:24] whats the key combo btw ? [18:24] volume up and down [18:24] hmm, how do you avoid getting the wolume overlay then [18:24] *volume [18:25] you don't, currently, as far as I've heard [18:25] hmm, i wonder why the filemanager doesnt want to open it [18:26] IIRC, file manager uses URL dispatcher [18:26] it used to open videos .. doesnt do tha anymore either [18:27] so if no app has registered for ~/Pictures/Screenshots/ it won't know what to do with it [18:27] only videos in ~/Videos/ or a video file from anywhere? [18:27] i couldjust tap the sintel trailer i got in Videos before [18:27] and it would play it [18:27] doesnt work anymore [18:28] mhall119, gallery sees it at lest [18:28] *least [18:32] ogra_: not for me [18:32] here itt does ... but i'm a few images ahead of you [18:32] heh, that might do it [18:32] (151 was promoted ... i'm running 155 here) [18:32] oh wait...now they're there [18:32] maybe I just had to wait for media-scanner? [18:33] yeah [18:45] Hey guys in the apps store when I install an app now in vivid it doesn't update the page to say that it has installed anymore is this a known issue? [18:56] anyone have any good solutions to have c++ unit tests in a click package, which get run when building the click package in the chroot? since it's cross compiling, just trying to run the built test runner results in an exploding test runner, since you can't run armhf binaries on x86 without an emulator :-/ [18:56] davmor2: no, not known [18:58] fml [18:59] davmor2: something is crashing the scope [18:59] davmor2: i think it's the ubuntu-download-manager libs [19:02] i am not seeing it on errors.ubuntu.com though :( [19:02] ah, here we go [19:03] it failed to retrace :( [19:03] https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/6784a9d813a2cfb9f2b694e6aefbd7b0e7555942 [19:03] mandel: ^^ [19:05] dobey, ugh.. maybe sergiusens can help you, he know click better than I do [19:05] mandel: it's not click, it's crashing in libubuntu-download-manager-client.so.0.9.0 [19:05] dobey, oh, let me see [19:06] QDBusAbstractInterface::asyncCallWithArgumentList(QString const&, QList const&) () from /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libQt5DBus.so.5 [19:06] ?? () from /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libubuntu-download-manager-client.so.0 [19:06] dobey, is there a way I can reproduce that? [19:06] those are the first 2 frames [19:06] mandel: try to install anything from the store on a vivid image [19:06] dobey, we need to install the debug symbols for udm [19:06] the download/install happens [19:07] but it crashes the click scope as soon as the download is created [19:09] i wonder why e.u.c didn't retrace it though [19:15] i guess i need to set up a vivid lxc now too [19:17] charles: ping [19:20] hrmm, i wonder what changed [19:23] nik90: national holiday [19:23] davmor2: oh :/ [19:24] davmor2: looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1387231 might make it into the final images [19:24] Ubuntu bug 1387231 in Ubuntu Clock App "[regression][clock] alarm still rings once it's been disabled or deleted" [Critical,Confirmed] [19:24] I mean the bug itself === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [19:48] anyone in here dual booting theyre nexus 4 ? [19:49] just curious as is to what the best version to run on the n4 is [19:56] should i go utopic saucy trusty ? [20:06] XandriX---: devel-proposed or devel is possibly the best as that is the cutting edge version [20:07] davmor2: cool ill try that [20:07] its nice that now multirom simplifies this process quite a bit === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [20:46] is there a way in cmake to tell if the click target is being cross-compiled, or native? [21:04] is there a way to get it to show dmesg instead of the boot animation ? === cloudnull is now known as cloudkiller === cloudkiller is now known as cloudnull [22:38] tedg: hey, I registered some uri handler in a app and used this in qml: Connections { target: UriHandler; onOpened: print(uris) } [22:38] the app is started successfully [22:38] and if the app is running this handler is called [22:38] but if the app is not running, it is only started, but the handler doesn't seem to be called [22:40] any ideas if there's something I could miss?