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skellatochosi/elfy: It looks like I shouldn't mess with blueprints while ill.  I don't recall why on earth I added USC.  I cleaned it up to be something more realistic.01:45
bluesabreforestpiskie: virtualbox is a qt app01:54
Noskcaj_Since my laptop charger is broken, i'm writing replacements for our gnome apps here.02:23
Noskcaj_gnome-calculator can be swapped with galculator, calcoo, or grpn02:23
Noskcaj_gnome-mines: xdemineur or xbomb02:30
Unit193xfce4-soundmenu-plugin    0.7.0-0ubuntu1~14.04        42  well huh, that's more than expected.06:12
knomeochosi, bluesabre: saw this on the planet: http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/estsaver-a-fast-flexible-and-beautiful-screen-saver-and-locker/07:28
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ochosiknome: hadn't seen it yet. i'm wondering how safe it is, given that it's a from-scratch implementation (or at least that's what it seems like)08:11
knomeit's a brand new post08:12
ochosiNoskcaj: feel free to put the list somewhere on the wiki and link to it from the whiteboard of the features blueprint08:12
dkesselhmm are those dialog boxes really supposed to look that ugly? example from u-s-c: https://imgur.com/OLSKEGb11:18
ochosidkessel: yeah, that's the dialogs in gtk>=3.1211:23
ochosiin terms of being touch-friendly, gtk devs decided to make the buttons full-width11:24
dkesselwow, this is ugly11:24
ochosibut yeah, the dialog is also missing a title, which is why there is the odd whitespace at the top11:24
dkesseland no space between dialog border and buttons....11:25
ochosiyeah, we can't even do much about that in the theme11:25
ochosiit's pretty much the toolkit that controls that11:25
Unit193Ugh, this is going to be aweful.11:27
ochosiwell those have been around for a while already11:28
ochosiat least in utopic the dialogs should already look like this11:29
bluesabreochosi: GtkMessageDialog does not set a title by default, https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkMessageDialog.html#gtk-message-dialog-new11:32
ochosiyeah, still seems like USC is only showing secondary text there11:32
bluesabreochosi: that is true11:49
dkesselbluesabre: while building the catfish autopilot tests i noticed that the placeholder text "Search terms" in the search box is untranslated - is that untranslatable? It does not seem to be missing in my language, according to launchpad12:32
bluesabredkessel: it should be translatable, but thats one of the fields that glade annoyingly strips, so I might have lost it at some point.  Will check that when renaming widgets12:34
ochosibluesabre: not that i think it's very realistic for 15.04, but mind if i carry the gst1.0 and python3 notes from the U-whiteboard forward to V?12:35
bluesabreochosi: sure, go ahead12:35
dkesselbluesabre: ok :) other than that: i have built a simple smoke test, just testing if catfish launches at all. it has been helpful that i could search for an instance of "CatfishWindow" instead of "GtkWindow" :)12:36
bluesabregot it12:37
bluesabregotta run, bbl12:38
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dkesselaaah ugly message boxes everywhere17:10
* dkessel tries back-in-time as another backup option to review...17:11
dkesselit uses the "evil" headerbar :)17:15
dkesselhmm or at least a very similar UI17:15
brainwashali1234: bug 1307657 not fixed in trusty yet18:13
ubottubug 1307657 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu Trusty) "UBUNTU_MENUPROXY should not be set in Xfce" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130765718:13
brainwashshould we ping attente (or the ubuntu guys)?18:14
ali1234probably, yes18:20
brainwashali1234: want to do it?18:29
ali1234not really18:29
ali1234got enough people to chase already18:29
brainwashis it sru worthy?18:31
ali1234not really18:31
brainwashali1234: attente will take care of it18:44
elfycan someone confirm you can't change refresh rate in task manager 1.0.1-120:21
elfyjust want to check it's not local before wasting time on reporting it20:26
ali1234elfy: i have 1.0.1-1 on 14.04 + staging ppa and it works for me20:55
ali1234xfce4-taskmanager isn't in the ppa though20:56
ali1234or mine isn't from it anyway20:56
dkesselelfy: works for me too21:03
elfyali1234: thanks - I'll double check after rebooting - same version as you know - just in 15.0421:03
dkesselon utopic21:03
dkesselworks on vivid, too21:05
elfymmm21:08
elfycan't change it from 1s here21:08
elfyok, so that's odd Quit it and start it again and it's set to 750ms - but not changeable21:09
elfydefinitely something up with it here - removed the local .rc file for it, purged and reinstalled21:45
elfycan't change the refresh rate at all 21:45
Unit193Logan_: If you really love syncs, can you sync thunar-dropbox-plugin?  If not, it's in bluesabre's packageset.21:58
ali1234elfy: that bug sounds familiar22:29
ali1234is the refresh rate changing even though the menu does not update?22:30
elfyali1234: yep - seems so 22:32
ali1234hmm, i've seen this happen before22:32
ali1234but like that other bug from the other day, i can't remember where22:33
elfycouldn't find a bug22:33
ali1234what theme are you using?22:33
elfyat least not on bugzilla22:33
elfyali1234: just using defaults - but they'll be staging ppa22:33
skellatochosi: I put down a marker to attend the VV schedule planning session during summit later this week.  The session details are here and feel free to either ping laney to say I'm okay or swap me out as Xubuntu's rep with somebody else: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22386/1504-release-planning/22:36
elfyali1234: booted vbox install - same issue there with it22:37
ali1234they've probably broken gtk22:37
elfybut wouldn't then anyone see it - at least in vv22:38
ali1234okay it's doing it here too now22:40
elfycool22:40
elfythought I was going nuts again :p22:40
knomehow's that relevant?22:41
elfyshall I report it - or do you think there's a dupe?22:41
knome;P22:41
elfyheh22:41
ali1234might as well report it22:41
elfyactually I'll report it from the vv vbox one - no fighting with apport and ppa's22:41
ali1234hmm22:42
ali1234looking at the code now22:47
ali1234i don't see how this cold ever have worked22:48
elfybug 139167522:48
ubottubug 1391675 in xfce4-taskmanager (Ubuntu) "Refresh rate physically changes - not shown in 'menu'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139167522:48
ali1234the reason it doesn't work is because the radio items aren't in a group22:51
ali1234so when you click one it doesn't know which other ones to turn off22:51
elfyok22:51
elfycan't seem to link upstream properly on that - commented for the moment22:51
elfyI'm off now - night22:52
knomenighty elfy 22:52
ali1234:O23:16
ali1234those code is even more bizarre than i thought23:16
ali1234it makes a radio group with 1 item which is the current refresh rate23:17
ali1234all the unslected refresh rates are normal menu items23:17
ali1234that's just insane23:17
Unit193dkessel: Just copy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Utopic/Deja-Dup forward and edit, if you must really propose it.23:18
sidiali1234, that sounds fun23:33
sidiwhat code is that?23:33
ali1234xfce4-taskmanager23:33
ali1234haha23:34
ali1234it also sets the refresh rate before loading the settings23:34
ali1234settings are stored in a singleton23:35

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