[01:45] <skellat> ochosi/elfy: It looks like I shouldn't mess with blueprints while ill.  I don't recall why on earth I added USC.  I cleaned it up to be something more realistic.
[01:54] <bluesabre> forestpiskie: virtualbox is a qt app
[02:23] <Noskcaj_> Since my laptop charger is broken, i'm writing replacements for our gnome apps here.
[02:23] <Noskcaj_> gnome-calculator can be swapped with galculator, calcoo, or grpn
[02:30] <Noskcaj_> gnome-mines: xdemineur or xbomb
[06:12] <Unit193> xfce4-soundmenu-plugin    0.7.0-0ubuntu1~14.04        42  well huh, that's more than expected.
[07:28] <knome> ochosi, bluesabre: saw this on the planet: http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/estsaver-a-fast-flexible-and-beautiful-screen-saver-and-locker/
[08:11] <ochosi> knome: hadn't seen it yet. i'm wondering how safe it is, given that it's a from-scratch implementation (or at least that's what it seems like)
[08:12] <knome> it's a brand new post
[08:12] <ochosi> Noskcaj: feel free to put the list somewhere on the wiki and link to it from the whiteboard of the features blueprint
[11:18] <dkessel> hmm are those dialog boxes really supposed to look that ugly? example from u-s-c: https://imgur.com/OLSKEGb
[11:23] <ochosi> dkessel: yeah, that's the dialogs in gtk>=3.12
[11:24] <ochosi> in terms of being touch-friendly, gtk devs decided to make the buttons full-width
[11:24] <dkessel> wow, this is ugly
[11:24] <ochosi> but yeah, the dialog is also missing a title, which is why there is the odd whitespace at the top
[11:25] <dkessel> and no space between dialog border and buttons....
[11:25] <ochosi> yeah, we can't even do much about that in the theme
[11:25] <ochosi> it's pretty much the toolkit that controls that
[11:27] <Unit193> Ugh, this is going to be aweful.
[11:28] <ochosi> well those have been around for a while already
[11:29] <ochosi> at least in utopic the dialogs should already look like this
[11:32] <bluesabre> ochosi: GtkMessageDialog does not set a title by default, https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkMessageDialog.html#gtk-message-dialog-new
[11:32] <ochosi> yeah, still seems like USC is only showing secondary text there
[11:49] <bluesabre> ochosi: that is true
[12:32] <dkessel> bluesabre: while building the catfish autopilot tests i noticed that the placeholder text "Search terms" in the search box is untranslated - is that untranslatable? It does not seem to be missing in my language, according to launchpad
[12:34] <bluesabre> dkessel: it should be translatable, but thats one of the fields that glade annoyingly strips, so I might have lost it at some point.  Will check that when renaming widgets
[12:35] <ochosi> bluesabre: not that i think it's very realistic for 15.04, but mind if i carry the gst1.0 and python3 notes from the U-whiteboard forward to V?
[12:35] <bluesabre> ochosi: sure, go ahead
[12:36] <dkessel> bluesabre: ok :) other than that: i have built a simple smoke test, just testing if catfish launches at all. it has been helpful that i could search for an instance of "CatfishWindow" instead of "GtkWindow" :)
[12:37] <bluesabre> got it
[12:38] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[17:10] <dkessel> aaah ugly message boxes everywhere
[17:11]  * dkessel tries back-in-time as another backup option to review...
[17:15] <dkessel> it uses the "evil" headerbar :)
[17:15] <dkessel> hmm or at least a very similar UI
[18:13] <brainwash> ali1234: bug 1307657 not fixed in trusty yet
[18:14] <brainwash> should we ping attente (or the ubuntu guys)?
[18:20] <ali1234> probably, yes
[18:29] <brainwash> ali1234: want to do it?
[18:29] <ali1234> not really
[18:29] <ali1234> got enough people to chase already
[18:31] <brainwash> is it sru worthy?
[18:31] <ali1234> not really
[18:44] <brainwash> ali1234: attente will take care of it
[20:21] <elfy> can someone confirm you can't change refresh rate in task manager 1.0.1-1
[20:26] <elfy> just want to check it's not local before wasting time on reporting it
[20:55] <ali1234> elfy: i have 1.0.1-1 on 14.04 + staging ppa and it works for me
[20:56] <ali1234> xfce4-taskmanager isn't in the ppa though
[20:56] <ali1234> or mine isn't from it anyway
[21:03] <dkessel> elfy: works for me too
[21:03] <elfy> ali1234: thanks - I'll double check after rebooting - same version as you know - just in 15.04
[21:03] <dkessel> on utopic
[21:05] <dkessel> works on vivid, too
[21:08] <elfy> mmm
[21:08] <elfy> can't change it from 1s here
[21:09] <elfy> ok, so that's odd Quit it and start it again and it's set to 750ms - but not changeable
[21:45] <elfy> definitely something up with it here - removed the local .rc file for it, purged and reinstalled
[21:45] <elfy> can't change the refresh rate at all 
[21:58] <Unit193> Logan_: If you really love syncs, can you sync thunar-dropbox-plugin?  If not, it's in bluesabre's packageset.
[22:29] <ali1234> elfy: that bug sounds familiar
[22:30] <ali1234> is the refresh rate changing even though the menu does not update?
[22:32] <elfy> ali1234: yep - seems so 
[22:32] <ali1234> hmm, i've seen this happen before
[22:33] <ali1234> but like that other bug from the other day, i can't remember where
[22:33] <elfy> couldn't find a bug
[22:33] <ali1234> what theme are you using?
[22:33] <elfy> at least not on bugzilla
[22:33] <elfy> ali1234: just using defaults - but they'll be staging ppa
[22:36] <skellat> ochosi: I put down a marker to attend the VV schedule planning session during summit later this week.  The session details are here and feel free to either ping laney to say I'm okay or swap me out as Xubuntu's rep with somebody else: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22386/1504-release-planning/
[22:37] <elfy> ali1234: booted vbox install - same issue there with it
[22:37] <ali1234> they've probably broken gtk
[22:38] <elfy> but wouldn't then anyone see it - at least in vv
[22:40] <ali1234> okay it's doing it here too now
[22:40] <elfy> cool
[22:40] <elfy> thought I was going nuts again :p
[22:41] <knome> how's that relevant?
[22:41] <elfy> shall I report it - or do you think there's a dupe?
[22:41] <knome> ;P
[22:41] <elfy> heh
[22:41] <ali1234> might as well report it
[22:41] <elfy> actually I'll report it from the vv vbox one - no fighting with apport and ppa's
[22:42] <ali1234> hmm
[22:47] <ali1234> looking at the code now
[22:48] <ali1234> i don't see how this cold ever have worked
[22:48] <elfy> bug 1391675
[22:51] <ali1234> the reason it doesn't work is because the radio items aren't in a group
[22:51] <ali1234> so when you click one it doesn't know which other ones to turn off
[22:51] <elfy> ok
[22:51] <elfy> can't seem to link upstream properly on that - commented for the moment
[22:52] <elfy> I'm off now - night
[22:52] <knome> nighty elfy 
[23:16] <ali1234> :O
[23:16] <ali1234> those code is even more bizarre than i thought
[23:17] <ali1234> it makes a radio group with 1 item which is the current refresh rate
[23:17] <ali1234> all the unslected refresh rates are normal menu items
[23:17] <ali1234> that's just insane
[23:18] <Unit193> dkessel: Just copy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Utopic/Deja-Dup forward and edit, if you must really propose it.
[23:33] <sidi> ali1234, that sounds fun
[23:33] <sidi> what code is that?
[23:33] <ali1234> xfce4-taskmanager
[23:34] <ali1234> haha
[23:34] <ali1234> it also sets the refresh rate before loading the settings
[23:35] <ali1234> settings are stored in a singleton