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| aaaaaaaaa | hi | 13:05 |
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| aaaaaaaaa | How all ? | 13:05 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-devops-1 to: Track: Cloud DevOps | Juju Charm School | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22389/juju-charm-school/ | ||
| lazyPower | Good Morning Juju Community! | 15:00 |
| lazyPower | We'll be kicking off in a moment | 15:00 |
| lazyPower | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22389/juju-charm-school/ - if you need the link to follow along at home | 15:01 |
| lazyPower | If you'd like to join the hangout and talk on air with us, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYc0Jup3WIfx2y7xjN_n5r_CqEIPHfQALDK4M8cYEvra-yB17Q?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:01 |
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| lazyPower | uh oh, i see our summit page is missing the link | 15:05 |
| lazyPower | http://youtu.be/BQ_blv9JhCs - THis will get you started while we figure out what we did with the video link on summit | 15:05 |
| cory_fu | Do you need a PPA to install juju? | 15:07 |
| rbasak-uos | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:juju/stable | 15:09 |
| rbasak-uos | (IIRC) | 15:09 |
| lazyPower | that is correct! | 15:09 |
| lazyPower | to the new joiners - it appears we didnt put the correct link int eh summit page - you can follow along here: http://youtu.be/BQ_blv9JhCs | 15:09 |
| lazyPower | many apologies for the inconvenience | 15:09 |
| kwmonroe | \join #ubuntu-uds-devops-1 | 15:13 |
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| lazyPower | kwmonroe: awesome cat typing | 15:15 |
| kwmonroe | doh! | 15:19 |
| larrymi2 | QUESTION what's the local entry in your environments file look like? | 15:22 |
| kwmonroe | thanks mbruzek1! we'll get that 1st 5 minute walkthrough doc live asap. | 15:22 |
| larrymi2 | great thank you | 15:25 |
| mbruzek1 | You are welcome | 15:25 |
| mbruzek1 | Thanks for the question | 15:26 |
| mbruzek1 | Please let us know if you have questions! | 15:31 |
| cory_fu | lazyPower: The syntax for relation_set is actually: hookenv.relation_set(hookenv.relation_id(), {'public-address': hookenv.unit_get('public-address')}) | 15:42 |
| noise][ | thanks for the juju intro, I got behind a bit but very helpful! | 15:49 |
| lazyPower | noise][: we're available in #juju here on freenode to answer any questions you may have. | 15:52 |
| noise][ | awesome, I'm going to finish working through the python example shortly | 15:53 |
| lazyPower | http://pythonhosted.org/charmhelpers/ | 15:53 |
| cory_fu | Also: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/ | 15:53 |
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| larrymi2 | thank you! | 15:56 |
| lazyPower | it was our pleasure larrymi2 | 15:56 |
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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-devops-1 to: Track: Cloud DevOps | Juju Charm Testing | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22390/juju-charm-testing/ | ||
| mbruzek1 | If you want to join the Juju Testing conversation please go here https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYekk8djMgop1pzFddjyTDy7plhXOwcKYregkciGjHoVC0aAXQ?authuser=0&hl=en | 17:57 |
| mbruzek1 | Our next UOS session starts soon | 17:58 |
| mbruzek1 | https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-charm-policy.html | 18:02 |
| mbruzek1 | We are talking about Charm Store Policy right now | 18:02 |
| mbruzek1 | Amulet: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/tools-amulet.html | 18:03 |
| mbruzek1 | Bundletester: https://github.com/juju-solutions/bundletester | 18:04 |
| sparkiegeek | lazyPower: can't see your screen, Tim has "focus" | 18:06 |
| mbruzek1 | bundletester repository | 18:06 |
| mbruzek1 | https://github.com/juju-solutions/bundletester | 18:06 |
| dpb1 | mbruzek1: can you change the focus over to lazypower? | 18:08 |
| jamestunnicliffe | ^^ | 18:08 |
| sparkiegeek | +1 | 18:08 |
| mbruzek1 | Thank you | 18:08 |
| mbruzek1 | Sorry about that | 18:08 |
| mbruzek1 | apt-get install python-pip juju charm-tools python-devel | 18:09 |
| sparkiegeek | why not juju deploy bundletester ? | 18:10 |
| tvansteenburgh | it's not a charm | 18:10 |
| mbruzek1 | It is not a charm, it is a testing framework | 18:10 |
| mbruzek1 | Good question sparkiegeek, we hope to have it bundled with juju as Josh S. mentioned | 18:11 |
| mbruzek1 | in the near future. | 18:11 |
| sparkiegeek | mbruzek1: sounds good | 18:11 |
| sparkiegeek | it's impossible to see what lazyPower is typing because the heads cover up the bottom of the terminal screen | 18:14 |
| sparkiegeek | that's better, thanks! | 18:15 |
| cory_fu | Not just the top, also the bottom, which is an issue when issuing commands on the command-line | 18:15 |
| dpb1 | mbruzek1: also the pictures of who is in the hangout cover up the command line | 18:15 |
| mbruzek1 | dpb1: OK I will try to address that | 18:16 |
| dpb1 | mbruzek1: thx. understand it's hard to adjust things. | 18:16 |
| sparkiegeek | perhaps larger font size would help | 18:16 |
| dpb1 | oh, cool. thanks for doing that tvansteenburgh | 18:19 |
| tvansteenburgh | \o/ | 18:19 |
| dpb1 | can bundletester work on an already bootstrapped environment? | 18:23 |
| mbruzek1 | yes absoltely | 18:23 |
| mbruzek1 | It runs faster | 18:23 |
| dpb1 | does each test tear down and build back up the environment like on juju-test, or is that pretty much obsolete now? | 18:23 |
| sparkiegeek | what are the guidelines about when you put tests into a separate tests/XX-my-test file vs. many in one ? | 18:24 |
| tvansteenburgh | it resets the env between each test | 18:24 |
| tvansteenburgh | much faster than destroy/rebootstrap between each test | 18:24 |
| dpb1 | Q: Is the name 'bundletester' is a bit misleading? Is it for testing individual charms, as well as bundles? | 18:26 |
| sparkiegeek | thank you | 18:27 |
| * sparkiegeek guesses mojo | 18:28 | |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: I think it's fine, just threw me a bit. thanks | 18:28 |
| dpb1 | since bundle is like a superset I can see where you are going | 18:28 |
| tvansteenburgh | http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-tests-by-charm | 18:29 |
| dpb1 | mbruzek1: actually, if charles would just do export PS1='$ ' and could live without the fancy prompt, it would be better. | 18:29 |
| sparkiegeek | dpb1: +1 | 18:30 |
| tvansteenburgh | https://github.com/juju-solutions/charmguardian | 18:30 |
| dpb1 | mind blown. j/k | 18:31 |
| sparkiegeek | dpb1: your MP is quoted in the README.md of that project :) | 18:31 |
| tvansteenburgh | haha | 18:31 |
| dpb1 | sparkiegeek: :) | 18:32 |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: this is quite nice, thanks for doing all this | 18:32 |
| sparkiegeek | the #! has to be at the top | 18:32 |
| sparkiegeek | (looks like you fixed it) | 18:32 |
| dpb1 | Q: can the results of those bundle tests be appended to the MP, right now are they just emailed? | 18:33 |
| tvansteenburgh | dpb1: thanks, it's been fun. still lots to do too! | 18:33 |
| tvansteenburgh | dpb1: doesn't it post a link to the results on the MP? | 18:33 |
| JoshStrobl | I didn't realize test creation is so easy. Makes me ashamed that I haven't done it for my charms yet. | 18:33 |
| tvansteenburgh | a recent blog post on Juju testing: http://blog.juju.solutions/cloud/juju/2014/10/02/charm-testing.html | 18:34 |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: I'm checking that | 18:34 |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: for instance: https://code.launchpad.net/~brad-marshall/charms/trusty/nrpe-external-master/fix-rsyncd-conf/+merge/241482 | 18:35 |
| tvansteenburgh | dpb1: in the review queue/auto-testing integration still needs work | 18:38 |
| tvansteenburgh | s/in// | 18:38 |
| sparkiegeek | tvansteenburgh: awesome! So the unit name that appears to relations is "normal"? | 18:38 |
| tvansteenburgh | yes | 18:38 |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: that is fine, looking forward to more in that area. thanks. | 18:38 |
| tvansteenburgh | no more cruft | 18:38 |
| sparkiegeek | tvansteenburgh: tried using amulet before to test a charm that related to PostgreSQL and it was impossible | 18:38 |
| dpb1 | yes, creating the shim was always a problem for me to, big +1 on that change (as I said before). | 18:40 |
| sparkiegeek | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Potato_salad_with_egg_and_mayonnaise.jpg | 18:40 |
| sparkiegeek | ^^ potato salad for lazyPower | 18:40 |
| * dpb1 is strangely hungry | 18:42 | |
| sparkiegeek | well you'll now get a test error instead of a test failure | 18:42 |
| sparkiegeek | I assume bundletester distinguishes between them? | 18:42 |
| tvansteenburgh | not really, exit code 0 = pass, other = fail | 18:46 |
| sparkiegeek | ack | 18:48 |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: does it also run unit tests? | 18:49 |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: or is that a totally separate topic | 18:49 |
| tvansteenburgh | yep, just put them behind a `make test` target | 18:49 |
| dpb1 | ok | 18:49 |
| dpb1 | great, thought it did | 18:49 |
| sparkiegeek | can you go over again what the technique is for getting *this* charm in amulet and not the one that's in the store? | 18:50 |
| * dpb1 would like to see that too | 18:50 | |
| sparkiegeek | is it just cs:XYZ for store ones? and XYZ for local? | 18:50 |
| JoshStrobl | sparkiegeek, yes | 18:51 |
| JoshStrobl | that is my understanding as well | 18:51 |
| sparkiegeek | hmmm | 18:51 |
| sparkiegeek | so if I have a bzr branch of XYZ called "XYZ-fix-bug-123" then all my tests will break? | 18:52 |
| sparkiegeek | (as in my directory name isn't the same as the charm name) | 18:52 |
| tvansteenburgh | sparkiegeek: correct | 18:52 |
| dpb1 | I thought it redirected to the locally checked out branch | 18:52 |
| dpb1 | wherever you are running things from | 18:52 |
| sparkiegeek | tvansteenburgh: ok, cheers | 18:52 |
| tvansteenburgh | it would be better to check out the branch into a dir with a name that matches the charm | 18:53 |
| dpb1 | ok | 18:53 |
| sparkiegeek | juju sure loves its directory names | 18:53 |
| tvansteenburgh | heh, yeah :? | 18:53 |
| sparkiegeek | if only there was a metadata file with the name in it, oh wait :) | 18:54 |
| * sparkiegeek files bug | 18:54 | |
| dpb1 | link and I'll +1 | 18:54 |
| tvansteenburgh | sparkiegeek: really good point there | 18:54 |
| mbruzek1 | https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/tools-amulet.html | 18:54 |
| tvansteenburgh | sparkiegeek: you file it, i'll fix it | 18:54 |
| dpb1 | tvansteenburgh: nice attitude. :) | 18:55 |
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| sparkiegeek | dpb1: tvansteenburgh: https://github.com/marcoceppi/amulet/issues/50 | 18:57 |
| tvansteenburgh | sparkiegeek: thank you! | 18:57 |
| dpb1 | thx sparkiegeek, nice catch | 18:58 |
| * JoshStrobl goes and makes dinner | 18:58 | |
| sparkiegeek | tvansteenburgh: FWIW looks like i could run the tests with JUJU_TEST_CHARM environment variable set and that'd do similar thing | 19:00 |
| tvansteenburgh | sparkiegeek: yep, forgot about that :) | 19:00 |
| mbruzek1 | http://pythonhosted.org/charmhelpers/ | 19:03 |
| mbruzek1 | https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/tools-charm-helpers.html | 19:03 |
| lazyPower | http://pythonhosted.org/charmhelpers/ | 19:04 |
| lazyPower | just to re-iterate :) | 19:04 |
| avoine | QUESTION: why charmhelper is not a debian package? | 19:14 |
| whit | avoine, it's in flux and when it settles down, we will likely make it a deb | 19:15 |
| whit | right now, most f us typically use pip to pull it in | 19:16 |
| * whit notes that releasing to a ppa would be sensible for ch | 19:17 | |
| avoine | ok | 19:18 |
| whit | avoine, right now charm helpers encompasses a broad number of concerns which need to eventually be broken into their packages | 19:21 |
| whit | ^ own | 19:22 |
| avoine | ok, the main reason I asked is because updating charmhelper makes charm MP really big and make it a package would make merge lighter | 19:28 |
| tvansteenburgh | avoine: totally agree | 19:28 |
| whit | yup | 19:29 |
| cory_fu | Completely agree. As whit mentioned, `pip install charmhelpers` is currently my preferred way around that | 19:29 |
| whit | remember also you can peg ch to a revision or pull it from bzr with pip | 19:29 |
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