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| akiva-thinkpad | ello all | 15:02 |
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| justCarakas | o/ akiva | 15:02 |
| * ObrienDave knocks on the video screen | 15:02 | |
| nik90 | \o | 15:02 |
| * JoshStrobl pokes out from around the corner | 15:02 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | heh | 15:03 |
| sj | start？ | 15:03 |
| DS-McGuire | link? | 15:03 |
| JoshStrobl | !topic | 15:03 |
| JoshStrobl | aww does that not work here? | 15:03 |
| JoshStrobl | tis' a shame | 15:03 |
| JoshStrobl | and they're live | 15:04 |
| elopio | hello. | 15:04 |
| JoshStrobl | Guys, get some lower-thirds for your names! | 15:04 |
| nik90 | hi elopio | 15:04 |
| balloons | sorry, my IRC client timed out, hehe | 15:04 |
| akiva-thinkpad | heh | 15:05 |
| akiva-thinkpad | QUESTION: What hardware does a phone and a desktop need to do the convergence? | 15:05 |
| balloons | for anyone else who wants to join in the live session; https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcrCbBMHcQIN2y7CrA6CQt4jxQ6_YDjn1Gq570w4m5x5YxmNg | 15:05 |
| JoshStrobl | akiva-thinkpad, that question looks familiar :P | 15:06 |
| balloons | akiva-thinkpad, can you rephrase that; it's a bit confusing to me | 15:06 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 15:06 |
| balloons | akiva-thinkpad, feel free to unmute when needed:-) | 15:06 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yah I muted myself thanks | 15:06 |
| akiva-thinkpad | cool | 15:06 |
| JoshStrobl | balloons, I think he means "What hardware does a phone really need to act as a converted device?" | 15:06 |
| JoshStrobl | *converged | 15:07 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Yah the latest versions of many of the core apps are pretty old in that ppa | 15:09 |
| DS-McGuire | Can the desktop in 14.04 run a click package? | 15:09 |
| akiva-thinkpad | QUESTION: Does Unity 8 w/mir work with all the virtual machines yet? Which VM software do I need to use if I want to test it this way? | 15:10 |
| balloons | DS-McGuire, technically yes, but it's disconnected and you don't get apparmor support, etc. So really no :-) | 15:11 |
| akiva-thinkpad | QUESTION: Will Unity 8 w/mir have a live desktop that you can run off a USB? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | akiva-thinkpad, there is one already | 15:11 |
| seb128 | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/ | 15:11 |
| akiva-thinkpad | seb128, /me is embarrassed! | 15:11 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I havn't actually installed it yet | 15:11 |
| DS-McGuire | balloons, Oh, that's a shame. I made a web app and uploaded it but I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't run :/ | 15:11 |
| balloons | DS-McGuire, you should be able to install it as a click on unity8 | 15:12 |
| nik90 | DS-McGuire: well that's why you need to test on the emulator | 15:12 |
| DS-McGuire | I did get it to run on my Nexus 10 so it's all good, just wanted it on my desktop. | 15:12 |
| DS-McGuire | nik90, that's what I am planning to do today :) | 15:12 |
| nik90 | DS-McGuire: the issue with click packages is that, some services like the content-hub is not available on the desktop. So there isn't a straightforward way to run sdk apps on the desktop. | 15:13 |
| CheeseBurg | QUESTION: When are the desktop designs going to start to roll out? | 15:15 |
| greyback | unity8 on mir works on nouvau - I can confirm that | 15:16 |
| greyback | Mir alone does work on an AMD chip I've got | 15:16 |
| JoshStrobl | awesome | 15:17 |
| greyback | I'm trying to bring unity8 up on it with the free driver too | 15:17 |
| nik90 | QUESTION: How does one test Unity8+Mir using a lxc container? Is that even possible? | 15:17 |
| JoshStrobl | Yea I use the open source AMD drivers. I just find them more performant and keeps my processors cooler than fglrx. | 15:17 |
| AlexColombia | hey guys i need information about kerberos bat in my conuntry don't exist many information about it. | 15:18 |
| JoshStrobl | AlexColombia, might be better to ask in #ubuntu | 15:18 |
| ChrisTownsend | wiki page on the container: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC | 15:18 |
| girox | QUESTION when will the "windowing" system land in NEXT? | 15:19 |
| nik90 | ChrisTownsend: cool, thnx | 15:19 |
| ChrisTownsend | My plan on the unity8-lxc package is to get a few more bug fixes in and then attempt to get it in trusty-backports. | 15:19 |
| ChrisTownsend | nik90: np! | 15:19 |
| seb128 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unity8-desktop-iso | 15:20 |
| seb128 | ^ that has some workitems | 15:20 |
| nik90 | ChrisTownsend: A trusty-backports might not be required as long as the PPA is up to date since I remember SRUs take a lot of time to be approved and released. | 15:21 |
| ChrisTownsend | nik90: Right, but it would be nice to have it in the archive (it's currently in the archive for Utopic/Vivid). Backports are treated a bit different than SRU's since they are not aimed at security updates. | 15:23 |
| ChrisTownsend | nik90: I definitely will keep the PPA up to date though, so meh.:) | 15:23 |
| nik90 | :) | 15:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | QUESTION: Pardon my ignorance; is there a convenience app in this image for grabbing system logs? Are the syslogs for mir different than what system log (on unity7) currently uses? | 15:26 |
| seb128 | no convenient app preinstalled, there is a logviewer in the click store | 15:26 |
| seb128 | the system logs are similar to desktop yet | 15:27 |
| akiva-thinkpad | seb128, interesting. | 15:27 |
| elopio | here | 15:29 |
| akiva-thinkpad | o/ | 15:29 |
| ChrisTownsend | It should work with Trusty and later. | 15:30 |
| ChrisTownsend | If not, it's a bug that I need to fix:) | 15:30 |
| ChrisTownsend | bregma: What???? I am professional:) | 15:31 |
| bregma | sry | 15:31 |
| ChrisTownsend | lol | 15:31 |
| balloons | ChrisTownsend, awesome thanks | 15:31 |
| ChrisTownsend | balloons: np! | 15:31 |
| girox | QUESTION: how can we the apps from ubuntu store on Ubuntu next desktop/unity 8? | 15:33 |
| girox | install | 15:33 |
| balloons | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/327/builds | 15:34 |
| justCarakas | girox: you need to use the app scope | 15:34 |
| balloons | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 15:34 |
| girox | last time i've tried with a 14.10 next image didn't work | 15:35 |
| balloons | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/326/builds/83518/testcases | 15:35 |
| girox | i'll try 15.04 thanks | 15:35 |
| ddfdfd | yo mu niggas | 15:36 |
| ddfdfd | whats popping dawgs? | 15:36 |
| girox | QUESTION: how can we record/take screenshots of Ubuntu next/Unity8? | 15:38 |
| akiva-thinkpad | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8-desktop-session | 15:39 |
| akiva-thinkpad | that is what I mean | 15:39 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 15:39 |
| akiva-thinkpad | okay great | 15:40 |
| CheeseBurg | QUESTION: What kind of testing is needed from users? | 15:40 |
| justCarakas | girox: phablet-screenshot foo.png | 15:40 |
| CheeseBurg | QUESTION: What basic use cases can Unity8 do now in terms of daily usage? | 15:41 |
| rickspencer3 | girox, I know that willcooke has figured out how to make screen casts and such | 15:41 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Is screenshotting working on mir yet? | 15:41 |
| justCarakas | if you use phablet | 15:41 |
| girox | thanks | 15:41 |
| justCarakas | command I just typed | 15:41 |
| justCarakas | thats what I use for taking screenshots on my phone | 15:41 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Sys logs | 15:41 |
| greyback | hit vol up & down simultaneously, you get screenshot too | 15:42 |
| akiva-thinkpad | cool | 15:43 |
| dkessel | QUESTION: is there a way of running "traditional" desktop apps (from debs) from the unity8 launcher? | 15:44 |
| akiva-thinkpad | o/ zomtir | 15:44 |
| girox | hm.. what is this mirscreencast? https://code.launchpad.net/~afrantzis/mir/mirscreencast-utility | 15:45 |
| seb128 | dkessel, things with a .desktop should be listed in the apps lens, if the desktop includes X-Ubuntu-Touch=true | 15:46 |
| akiva-thinkpad | dogfoodable? | 15:46 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 15:46 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Do questions! | 15:47 |
| greyback | girox: it's a mir screencasting tool. If you run it against unity-system-compositor, it should work. I doubt i will not work against unity8 though | 15:47 |
| dkessel | yay another unstable parallel installation on my system :D | 15:47 |
| girox | so i can record unity8 with mirscreencast? :D | 15:48 |
| girox | nice | 15:48 |
| greyback | girox: possible, not sure if that util is fully functional | 15:49 |
| greyback | but should be | 15:49 |
| girox | cool | 15:49 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ha | 15:50 |
| girox | thanks :> | 15:50 |
| akiva-thinkpad | okay good to know its coming | 15:50 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nik90> QUESTION: How does one test Unity8+Mir using a lxc container? Is that even possible? | 15:51 |
| akiva-thinkpad | QUESTION: Does Unity 8 w/mir work with all the virtual machines yet? Which VM software do I need to use if I want to test it this way? | 15:51 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: that was answered by ChrisTownsend on irc | 15:51 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: was referring to my question | 15:51 |
| akiva-thinkpad | true | 15:51 |
| akiva-thinkpad | just want to get it on record :) | 15:51 |
| dshimer | As an enthusiastic but non technical user I would gladly run U8 on my everyday box if I could install and use BtSync, Spideroak, or Dropbox. All I use on 3 boxes is Ubuntu so if I knew that my data was still syncing and that I could walk over to one of the other systems if I needed to and continue work I would definitely do that. Are there any cl | 15:53 |
| dshimer | oud syncs that currently work on U8 | 15:53 |
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| ObrienDave | Thank you all!!! | 15:55 |
| elopio | thanks | 15:55 |
| akiva-thinkpad | balloons, i'll think about writing a screenshot app, similar to shutter if needed. | 15:56 |
| DS-McGuire | Thanks!! | 15:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | later | 15:56 |
| sj | thx | 15:56 |
| balloons | akiva-thinkpad, ohh, closing the gap, awesome | 15:56 |
| DS-McGuire | Where are we going now? | 15:56 |
| bregma | guniea pigs to dogfood - don't feed guinea pigs to dogs, they can choke on the little bones | 15:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | DS-McGuire, for me; filemanager app planning | 15:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | DS-McGuire, it will be a small session; we could use more people | 15:56 |
| DS-McGuire | I'll come. Whats the irc? | 15:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | DS-McGuire, #ubuntu-uds-appdev-2 | 15:57 |
| DS-McGuire | Thanks :) | 15:57 |
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