[00:00] <Mightcould3> ok, trial and error. i close down chrome. started the game and its still on HDA audio. and when i try to change it. it still wont switch over :(
[00:00] <randomminds> Bashing-om, w00t? I tried that as well, but it didn't work last time... Now it does o_O thanks!!
[00:04] <HappyNewYear13> i want to install ubuntu form a CD to a notebook with FreeDOS. so i boot to get the menu and start the CD and that's all? do i need to know something else?
[00:04] <Mightcould3> but yeah aside from the audio issues occasionally i've grown really fond of linux. since i switched it over to my ssd's its certainly a faster desktop experience (windows still boots 2 sec faster on ssd's) and once its booted theres never a wait for anything. and i noticed my cpu and gpu seems 3-5 celcius cooler too. idk how that is. and i love conky!
[00:04] <les_> hello can anyone point me to a link that describes how to set up RAID 1 with 3 disks on an existing install?
[00:04] <Meaux> HappyNewYear13: You still have to select Install Ubuntu, which should be on the desktop
[00:05] <Mightcould3> HappyNewYear13, yeah when you boot the cd you'll be given the option to "try it" or install from cd. if theres a pervious OS installed and you wish to wipe it, use the "try it" option and use gparted to reformat the drive
[00:05] <k1l> HappyNewYear13: you can run the live-OS on the cd to test if everything is running
[00:06] <HappyNewYear13> Meaux, have you done it? having freedos as base?
[00:06] <HappyNewYear13> k1l, thank you. goo idea
[00:06] <Bashing-om> randomminds: :) .. long as we are good in the end .. sometimes 2 heads are better than 1 .
[00:06] <HappyNewYear13> Mightcould3, reformat the drive? why? can't i just say install it?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> HappyNewYear13: Are you planning to dual boot with FreeDOS and Ubuntu both being installed at the same time, or are you planning to completely replace FreeDOS with Ubuntu?
[00:07] <Meaux> HappyNewYear13: I'm sorry, are you referring to dualbooting or something else?
[00:07] <Bashing-om> !raid
[00:07] <Mightcould3> HappyNewYear13, yes you can, i was just saying incase you wanted to wipe it
[00:07] <HappyNewYear13> Jordan_U, replace it. why do i need freedos? is it good. never used it before
[00:07] <Bashing-om> !raid | les_
[00:07] <HappyNewYear13> Meaux, not dual booting, just keeping ubuntu
[00:08] <Mightcould3> HappyNewYear13, right, if you want to wipe freedos, use gparted to reformat it. you cant reformat a drive if its in use
[00:08] <Mightcould3> thats why you use the live cd "try it" option
[00:08] <HappyNewYear13> Mightcould3, i don't know how to use gparted. don't want to learn either.
[00:08] <Meaux> HappyNewYear13: So just to be absolutely clear: You want to install Ubuntu over FreeDOS. If that's the case, simply use the install feature and select "Use Entire Drive"
[00:08] <HappyNewYear13> Mightcould3, so i choose install it ,  and it will dual boot then?
[00:08] <les_> ubottu: thanks....reading now
[00:08] <Mightcould3> its actually really simple point n click interface. if you already figured out irc chat, gparted is even simpler
[00:09] <HappyNewYear13> Meaux, i see. thank you.
[00:09] <Mightcould3> Happy, depending, but presumably yes
[00:09] <Mightcould3> oh right, Meaux is right, that'll solve your prob easy
[00:09] <HappyNewYear13> this notebook is super cheap and it comes with freedos. so i don't know what to expect.
[00:10] <HappyNewYear13> it's a lenovo. are the good?
[00:10] <Mightcould3> expect a learning experience.
[00:10] <mjayk> HappyNewYear13: generally
[00:10] <Mightcould3> they're okay. most pre builds are all cheap nowadays. but thats what you get for mobile
[00:10] <Riku-san> HappyNewYear13, hard to say, lenovo makes alot of PCs
[00:10] <k1l> HappyNewYear13: give it a try.
[00:11] <HappyNewYear13> i love to learn. and i do learn quick. but gparted never learned to use it. it scares me. did partition on windows vista, then installed ubuntu.
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Mightcould3: Try asking about your problem in #pulseadio (note that it's a *much* lower traffic channel though, so don't expect a quick response).
[00:11] <HappyNewYear13> for 40 dollars more i get an HP same specs but with ubuntu 12.04
[00:11] <HappyNewYear13> so i want to save that money and go for the freedos
[00:12] <HappyNewYear13> is it true lenovo is IBM?
[00:12] <Meaux> Yes it is
[00:12] <Mightcould3> Jordan_U, thanks man i really appreciate it. im just so new to linux, i can make everything like clockwork with windows but infront of a linux system i might as well be 5 years old lol
[00:12] <HappyNewYear13> cool. HP scare me a bit. never had one though.
[00:12] <Meaux> I used to work for them. They're alright
[00:13] <daftykins> well no, IBM sold Lenovo to a Chinese firm
[00:13] <HappyNewYear13> Meaux, hehe :P
[00:13] <Meaux> I stand corrected
[00:13] <les_> Can anyone tell me if this is possible? 3 drives: sda is 80GB with Ubuntu OS and bootloader, sdb and sdc are each 250GB, used only for data, mirrored with RAID 1?
[00:14] <Jordan_U> les_: That is possible.
[00:14] <daftykins> les_: yes, nothing special about that
[00:14] <les_> Okay, great, but all the info I can find refers to RAID 1 using only 2 disks, not 3.
[00:15] <les_> So I'm not sure how to set that up. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[00:15] <daftykins> les_: you're not using 3 disks in RAID, the latter two are mirrored, the OS disk is on its' own
[00:15] <daftykins> :)
[00:17] <les_> daftykins: Yes, that's what I want to do, but all the tutorials I can find assume there are only 2 disks on the entire system
[00:18] <daftykins> les_: well the only thing that would likely change is they'll go on about boot configuration. just ignore that
[00:28] <nathanwallis> join vivo-dev-all
[00:28] <nathanwallis> :)
[00:29] <Otani> Relative newbie to Ubuntu here. I installed Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 on a laptop that has a broken display, so I use a secondary monitor. I have it setup to use the monitor once I log in. The problem is, the login itselt is on the broken display, and I cannot figure out how to get it be on the monitor.
[00:29] <k1l> Otani: on lightdm just go with the mouse to the ext. monitor, the login mask will follow
[00:30] <Otani> I saw that on the web, didnt work. I moved my mouse over to the left, and it didnt move it to the external display.
[00:30] <Meaux> I'm not sure, but I think there's a way to hard wire X so that it will mirror both displays
[00:31] <k1l> Otani: try the right side.
[00:31] <Meaux> That's what I did on my laptop. I used the FN F8 button to force it to mirror
[00:31] <Otani> I did. Didnt work, cause the "main display" is on the left, and the monitor is on the right.
[00:32] <OerHeks> Otani, does your latop have a FN key to switch  internal/external/internal+external display ?
[00:32] <k1l> Otani: to be more clear: just drive with the mouse to any side to test it. if both monitors are enabled it should follow the mouse.
[00:32] <Otani> No, sadly. And there is no BIOS option to disable the internal display either.
[00:32] <k1l> Otani: if the other monitor is not on at alltry the fn keys or th bios
[00:33] <Otani> No, the internal display is ALWAYS ON, even though it is broken.
[00:33] <OerHeks> Bad luck :-(
[00:34] <k1l> Otani: that doesnt mal any sense.
[00:34] <Otani> Its a Compaq C56. Has no way of turning off the internal display.
[00:34] <Otani> Compaq Persario C56*
[00:35] <seal_ball> Hello. ^^..
[00:35] <Otani> Is there not some default config file that handles the displays prior to login?
[00:35] <Jordan_U> k1l: Does Ubuntu GNOME use GDM instead of LightDM?
[00:35] <seal_ball> Can anyone help a beginner? :o I'm rather lost.
[00:36] <k1l> Jordan_U: well, vanilla gnome yes. but the one from the repos should work with lightdm iirc
[00:36] <Otani> I saw a post saying copy ~/.config/monitors.xml to uhm... what was it... /usr/share/lightdm/.config/ i think
[00:36] <Bashing-om> !ask ! seal_ball And we will see :
[00:36] <Otani> lightdm didnt exist. i created it, and .config. still didnt work. so i installed lightdm. still didnt work
[00:36] <seal_ball> !ask
[00:36] <seal_ball> oh. ^^. Sorry.
[00:36] <k1l> Otani: so its using gdm?
[00:36] <Otani> yes, it uses GDM
[00:37] <k1l> i am not sure if gdm handles the login that easy.
[00:37] <Otani> The only way I am currently able to login is by using teamviewer
[00:37] <Jordan_U> Otani: did you "sudo service gdm stop && sudo service lightdm start"? *This will kill any existing graphical sessions*
[00:38] <Bashing-om> seal_ball: A 1000 or so here to help, but you must ask you question to get a response.
[00:38] <dax2112rush> Who determines what network connections should be established on startup? NetworkManager, or something external to NetworkManager? How can I force a connection (VPN, in my case) to be established on startup? Using Ubuntu 14.04
[00:38] <Jordan_U> dax2112rush: There are multiple ways, though "force" isn't the term I would use. If you make the connection "available to all users" in network manager then it should connect before any user logs in.
[00:39] <seal_ball> I have installed Ubuntu onto my work laptop to see if I like it and to see if it'll feel better to work on it rather than Win7, and it does, and now I'd like to install it aside windows 7 on my home computer, but I have three hard drives on that computer, the one with Win7 installed is an SSD with not enough space available, and I'd like to install it on another HD, I figured you can install it by finding the partition you've made
[00:39] <seal_ball> for it and stuff, but my question is, will GRUB and the windows loader still work the way they're supposed to if Ubuntu isn't aware that Win7 is installed?
[00:40] <Otani> it just seems to me that gnome should have a default file to handle it before you login
[00:40] <Meaux> seal_ball: Ubuntu would still see the Win7 install.
[00:40] <dax2112rush> Jordan_U: I've already checked "All users may connect to this network" but that doesn't seem to do it.
[00:40] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Why wouldn't anything be aware that Windows is installed?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> dax2112rush: And it's also configured to connect automatically?
[00:41] <seal_ball> When I tried to install it with the live demo, it can't find win7.
[00:41] <mount> Hi, i have a question. Some one can help me?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: What do you mean by "can't find"?
[00:41] <dax2112rush> Jordan_U: There's no checkbox for that for that VPN connection. There is one for wifi networks, though
[00:42] <seal_ball> It tells me that there's no other OS installed.
[00:42] <mount> I cant look my partition of Windows in Kubuntu 14.10 Help
[00:42] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Are you booted into the Live session right now?
[00:42] <PariahVi> Hello.  I apologize for bugging anyone.  I have just been having a problem that has been effecting multiple computers (including Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi) and every install of Ubuntu I have on my computers.  I have been trying to figure this out for days and nothing suggested online works
[00:42] <Otani> Is there some way to just make ubuntu ignore the internal display?
[00:42] <seal_ball> I'm currently on my work laptop.
[00:43] <seal_ball> Should I go to my desktop and go into the live session?
[00:43] <dax2112rush> Jordan_U: Oh, but I just saw that there is a Automatically connect to VPN option in the network adapter settings
[00:43] <Meaux> PariahVi: Well, let's see what we can do. What is Ubuntu doing/not doing that it isn't supposed to or is supposed to
[00:43] <k1l> seal_ball: you need to put grub into the MBR of the first hd that gets booted (sda in most cases). because the windows bootloader doesnt care about other OS and will always just load windows
[00:43] <dax2112rush> Jordan_U: that should do it, thanks!
[00:43] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Can you boot into the Ubuntu LiveUSB on the machine in question?
[00:43] <Jordan_U> dax2112rush: You're welcome :)
[00:43] <k1l> seal_ball: grub scans all hdds in the system so it will find win7 and include that in the menue
[00:44] <seal_ball> Alright, thanks kil and sure I will Jordan.
[00:44] <mount> My windows is crash and i need tanke the ISO to repair but i cant look the partition
[00:44] <Steven-> Erm.. I have no sound and tried to follow a hand full of different sound troubleshooting tutorials out there to no avail. I'm not sure how to go about fixing it. Shockwave Flash also stopped working. It was all working then something happened and I'm not sure what I did. any suggestions on how I should go about this?
[00:44] <Otani> It seems to me that if I have a broken display that I cannot turn off, there might be some way to tell Ubuntu to just ignore it.
[00:44] <PariahVi> Meaux: On this machine, I'm getting this error for openssh-server, but I get it for anything I want to install or update now, and my raspbian keeps yelling at me about this for man-db http://pastebin.com/1QZ8x4Y6
[00:46] <Mightcould3> mount, what do you mean you cant look the partition? windows recovery doesnt see the installation?
[00:46] <PariahVi> Meaux: The suggestions I have read online pretty much all say to try "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt-get install -f", but those don't fix the problem
[00:47] <PariahVi> I'm curious if there's possibly something wrong with dpkg.  It only starts after doing the first upgrade, which I believe updates dpkg
[00:47] <Meaux> PariahVi: Okay, so your foing to need to run the following: "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -f && sudo apt-get dis-upgrade && sudo dkpg --configure -a"
[00:47] <squinty> Mightcould3:  he already quit... impatient little rascal I guess
[00:47] <blingbling> how is gnome-terminal --tab supposed to work? I expected repeated invocations to create new tabs in the same window, but instead new windows are opened.
[00:47] <Mightcould3> squinty, oh
[00:47] <Meaux> These will force it to fix itself.
[00:47] <teaearlgraycold> Can I just dump a unix timestamp in an SQL "time" data type?
[00:48] <Otani> Is there no way to make Ubuntu ignore a display?
[00:48] <k1l> PariahVi: raspian?
[00:48] <seal_ball> "This computer currently has no operating systems installed"
[00:48] <Mightcould3> thats not good
[00:48] <PariahVi> k1l: It's happening in Ubuntu for me on all of my machines as well, but it's also happening to Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi as well.
[00:49] <Loshki> Meaux: I would skip this step. It's misspelled in the original line anyway: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:49] <k1l> PariahVi: well, raspian is not ubuntu based and has certain limitations due to the setup of the device. so best is to come with the actual ubuntu errors to here
[00:49] <squinty> Otani:  Screen Display in System Settings should do that for you (toggle off one display if not needed)  if running nvidia then iirc, you can also stipulate that in nVidia X server settings
[00:49] <Meaux> I've seen this fix the same issue, but okay
[00:49] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo os-prober".
[00:49] <Meaux> Loshki: Especially since he already tried the other
[00:50] <blingbling> teaearlgraycold: date +"%Y-%m-%d" -- read the man page for details
[00:50] <PariahVi> k1l: I onlyshowed errors for Ubuntu on here.  I'm just getting the same exact errors on Raspbian.  Just mentioned it just in case people would want to know that it's happening to multiple things and might possibly be dpkg
[00:50] <teaearlgraycold> blingbling, thanks
[00:50] <Loshki> Meaux: a dist upgrade is pretty drastic. PariahVi, make sure you know what you're getting into before you do that.
[00:51] <Otani> squinty: no. that only does it ONCE YOU LOG IN. I need Ubuntu to completely ignore the display.
[00:51] <PariahVi> Loshki: I know what each of the commands do :)
[00:51] <k1l> PariahVi: i cant hink of something that breaks different distros on different devices (besides networkissues)
[00:51] <PariahVi> k1l: This is different devices actually
[00:51] <PariahVi> every one of them I run >_<
[00:51] <Otani> squinty: In my settings, I have the broken display disabled. But that is only *MY* settings. Hence why I when I login, the login screen is on the broken display.
[00:52] <PariahVi> Meaux: I got the same error, but this time flashplugin-installer is yelling as well
[00:52] <k1l> PariahVi: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[00:52] <Meaux> That is.. odd. Anyone with more advanced packaging work have better experience here?
[00:52] <seal_ball> Uhm, sudo os-prober doesn't return anything.
[00:52] <PariahVi> Description:	Ubuntu 14.10
[00:53] <k1l> PariahVi: what did you do when the error came up first time?
[00:53] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: OK, then please just pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[00:53] <Fleetflame> What's the default package manager that comes with 14.04?
[00:54] <PariahVi> I installed fresh yesterday on my desktop and laptop, each time with a different USB or DVD when it this error appears.  It works until I do a restart after the first upgrade, then after I try to install things, some things install, others yell at me
[00:54] <Meaux> THat does sound like network issues
[00:54] <Phillies> for my laptop 14.10   AMD Radeon HD 7650M - 2 GB VRAM    which vid drivers should i be using?
[00:54] <PariahVi> I'll try downgrading dpkg and apt to isolate the problem a bit
[00:54] <Loshki> PariahVi: are you up to running dpkg on its own? Or better yet, under strace?
[00:54] <seal_ball> pastebin.com/jyj0acua
[00:54] <k1l> PariahVi: please show a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a pastebin
[00:55] <PariahVi> Right now, I'm using apt-get install.  I also try dpkg -i and the same things happen
[00:55] <Phillies> fglrx-updates? fglrx? or x.org server displayer driver wrapper
[00:55] <seal_ball> http://pastebin.com/jyj0acua
[00:56] <Otani> Bout to rip out my hair in frustration
[00:56] <Loshki> PariahVi: anything interesting in /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[00:56] <PariahVi> Loshki: I'll test that next, just getting the update/upgrade thing into a txt file
[00:58] <Loshki> Otani: I'm bald. So no points there. What settings do you use for the working case?
[00:58] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: OK, you seem to have 4 drives, none of which really look to me like they have Windows instealled to them. Which drive do you think Windows is installed to?
[00:58] <Otani> What working case?
[00:59] <jota> hi
[00:59] <Loshki> Otani: "I have the broken display disabled. But that is only *MY* settings" <-- that working case
[00:59] <seal_ball> I'm 100% certain that the osz-agility has windows 7 installed onto it.
[00:59] <seal_ball> and the STAPLES drive is my flash drive.
[00:59] <jota> how can i change the wallpaper of ubuntu studio?
[01:00] <Otani> I just went into settings->displays and disabled the internal display. But that only works once I log in. The login screen is ALWAYS on the broken internal display.
[01:00] <k1l> Otani: what about using lightdm
[01:00] <Otani> Would that cause issues?
[01:00] <k1l> Otani: is the ext. monitor off when the login screen pops up?
[01:01] <Otani> I am using Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 with Gnome flashback session
[01:01] <k1l> or just not showing the login box
[01:01] <k1l> ah ok. you said ubuntu with gnome-shell installed last time iirc
[01:01] <PariahVi> k1l: http://pastebin.com/FKr6sSqt
[01:01] <Otani> No, the external monitor is on when the login screen pops up
[01:01] <squinty> Otani:  no way of setting up your working monitor as "primary"?  iirc, nvidia has this setting.  not sure about Monitor Display though.......
[01:01] <k1l> dont know about the gnome ubuntu working with lightdm or not
[01:02] <Otani> Again, as I said squinty, that only works once I log in. Those are MY settings. Ubuntu defaults to the broken internal
[01:02] <Loshki> Jordan_U: the first disk has an ntfs filesystem and is bootable. Surely win7 is there?
[01:02] <samthewildone> !html
[01:03] <squinty> Otani:  please lose the caps
[01:03] <sax03> hola
[01:04] <Phillies> how owuld i check ftp on ubuntu 14.10?
[01:04] <k1l> PariahVi: ok, its not a clean install since there are a lot of 3rd party repos already enabled. i bet some of them broke the the package system or you dont have enough space left. first see "df -h" and "df -i"
[01:04] <Otani> squinty: Ubuntu has some kinda default settings that I cannot change, or dont know how to change, that select the internal as the default
[01:04] <OerHeks> Phillies, explain 'would check ftp" ?
[01:04] <Phillies> fps*
[01:04] <Phillies> sorry
[01:05] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Please run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/" so that we can examine the contents of the ntfs partition on that drive.
[01:05] <k1l> PariahVi: if that is all fine see the dpkg/apt logs to see what first brought you the errors
[01:05] <daftykins> Phillies: what game?
[01:06] <Phillies> not gaming just want to see if somthings wrong with my video card
[01:06] <PariahVi> df -h and -i are fine.  Everything is at 0% or 1% use and that's it
[01:06] <Phillies> mediaserver more or less
[01:06] <daftykins> Phillies: can you explain more, like why you want to check? framerate isn't a desktop thing really
[01:06] <OerHeks> Phillies, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils # and run glxgears
[01:07] <Phillies> i just wanna see what fps im getting on this hockeystreams site and plex when i use it
[01:07] <Phillies> thanks OerHeks
[01:07] <PariahVi> k1l: /var/log/dpkg.log? or in /var/log/apt?
[01:07] <seal_ball> The OSZ agility has dissapeared, what now?
[01:08] <Loshki> Otani: what is the display called in the working case. echo $DISPLAY or somesuch...
[01:08] <OerHeks> Phillies, glxgears is just for ubuntu, hockeystreams is not covered
[01:08] <k1l> PariahVi: depends what shows where the error is located :)
[01:08] <Otani> when I type echo $DISPLAY it returns :0
[01:08] <Phillies> im getting 6-FPS
[01:08] <Phillies> 60FPS
[01:09] <Phillies> not very good but its a laptop    a decent one i thought i guess not
[01:09] <PariahVi> I'm not sure which would show the error.  I see a lot of "status half-configured" in the dpkg.log file, but that was even in the first file installed with dpkg for the first upgrade since installing fresh
[01:09] <daftykins> no that'll be vsync locking your framerate to the display
[01:09] <daftykins> Phillies: ^ nothing to do with what you're asking really.
[01:10] <Phillies> for my laptop 14.10   AMD Radeon HD 7650M - 2 GB VRAM    which vid drivers should i be using?
[01:10] <daftykins> Phillies: check by looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - likely fglrx though.
[01:10] <daftykins> (fglrx is what you should be using, it's probably using 'radeon')
[01:10] <PariahVi> apt/history.log has errors in it
[01:11] <OerHeks> Phillies, that looks oke,me too,  if i disable 'sync to vblank ' in nvidia settings i get  5237.934 FPS
[01:11] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Did that command complete without any output? Also separately, does the directory "/sys/firmware/efi/" exist?
[01:11] <seal_ball> Yes, it completed without output.
[01:11] <seal_ball> and one second, let me check.
[01:12] <squinty> Otani:  maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution  >  Setting xrandr commands in kdm/gdm startup scripts  might give you  some clue on how to circumvent your problem
[01:12] <Phillies> daftykins,      what should i be looking for in that log
[01:12] <Phillies> its massive
[01:12] <daftykins> Phillies: pastebin it if you can. (install the package 'pastebinit') then run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:12] <Otani> Tried that, that isnt the issue.
[01:12] <Phillies> will do
[01:13] <seal_ball> Yes, it does exist.
[01:13] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: OK, then that's what's happening. Your computer is booted via UEFI, but Windows is installed to be booted by BIOS. os-prober only looks for BIOS based OSs when booted via BIOS, and only looks for UEFI based OSs when booted via UEFI.
[01:13] <Otani> Again, I have working settings, once I log in. But there has to be some kind of default setting that Ubuntu uses before someone logs in. And that default setting has my broken display as the default display.
[01:13] <sax03> hola
[01:13] <Phillies> daftykins,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8952496/
[01:14] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: If you install Ubuntu configured to boot via UEFI, it can't possibly give you a grub entry for booting Windows because you can't load a BIOS based bootloader from a UEFI based bootloader.
[01:14] <seal_ball> Can I make ubuntu boot by bios? o-o
[01:14] <Phillies> in additional drivers im using   X.org X server - AMD / ATI display driver wrapper from xserver-xorg
[01:14] <daftykins> Phillies: yep you're using the open source 'radeon', fglrx *might* be faster. it really depends what you're after with this hockey stream, is it playing back choppy and unsmoothly or something?
[01:15] <sax03> ciao,cè qualche italiano?
[01:15] <k1l> !it | sax03
[01:15] <Phillies> it plays alright    plex is actually my problem
[01:15] <Loshki> Otani: I agree. Clearly it's not done by manipulating $DISPLAY. So I assume it's done at the /dev layer. Not sure how to proceed at this point, though.
[01:15] <daftykins> Phillies: in what way?
[01:15] <Phillies> having issues with there home theatre thought it might be vid driver related
[01:16] <Phillies> fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[01:16] <daftykins> Phillies: talk to the plex people, the very similar software XBMC, the devs often prefer the radeon driver so i don't know what's up.
[01:16] <Otani> I just wish there was a simple way to tell ubuntu to ignore the display. In windows, using hardware manager, you can easily disable hardware, and windows just ignores it.
[01:16] <Otani> I wish ubuntu had an easy way to be told "just ignore it."
[01:17] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Yes, by telling your boot firmware to boot the Ubuntu installer via BIOS. Why do you have BIOS based Windows installed on a UEFI based machine though?
[01:17] <PariahVi> Blah... I have the feeling I'm going to have to do a new install :/
[01:17] <daftykins> Otani: the Linux kernel, not ubuntu... and yes it should be possible. is the LVDS panel smashed?
[01:17] <Otani> Yes.
[01:18] <newb> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[01:18] <sax03> hola
[01:18] <seal_ball> I have no idea, honestly. When I built this computer, I had about an hour of sleep so I just wanted it done and done.
[01:18] <Phillies> daftykins,  fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[01:18] <Otani> daftykins: Yes.
[01:18] <daftykins> Phillies: experiment.
[01:19] <daftykins> Otani: what've you tried so far to disable the internal and make X run on the external?
[01:19] <Phillies> will do thanks
[01:19] <k1l> Paradisee: show the logs and people can have a look. but it is not typical that an ubuntu breaks its package system after install. so i bet its something that happend after install
[01:19] <squinty> Otani:  https://help.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en   >   All of these scripts are run with root privilege  (and pertinent surrounding text)
[01:19] <k1l> PariahVi: ^
[01:19] <k1l> but i am leaving now, its 2am in here.
[01:19] <Shaan> hey guys has anyone heard of ubuntu distro without iptables???
[01:20] <seal_ball> Alright, well, once I tell my system to boot bios, how do I install ubuntu to one of the other disks as the SSD doesn't have anymore room after windows, well, usable room, I have like 15gb left there for things that are going to inevitably going to be dumped in /windows and /appdata and the like.\
[01:20] <Otani> daftykins: I am not sure what to try. Obviously, I have my settings set up once I log in to disable the internal display, but I am not sure what I can try in terms of before I log in.
[01:20] <OerHeks> Shaan, no such thing, ubuntu without iptables
[01:20] <Loshki> seal_ball: well, what *used* to work, was to install win on one disk, unplug it, and install ubuntu on another disk. But you had to swap plugs around to boot a different OS. Later bioses let you select which disk to boot, so it almost as good as being able to select it through grub.
[01:20] <Otani> daftykins: I saw a post on the web to copy ~/.config/monitors.xml to, i think it was /usr/share/lightdm/.config
[01:21] <daftykins> Otani: oh so you have a solution in place, you just want to look at the login screen first?
[01:21] <Otani> daftykins: I tried that. lightdm didnt exist, so i created the folder, and .config, and moved the file. nothing
[01:21] <seal_ball> Wait,so I can't just create another partition on the 1tb disk and install it there?
[01:22] <Riku-san> grah nobody is ever active on #ubuntu-touch
[01:22] <Loshki> Otani: well, if we knew how the gui disables the internal screen, we could duplicate that operation for all users.
[01:22] <Otani> daftykins: The problem is that Ubuntu chooses the broken display as the Login screen. I cannot get the login screen to move the monitor
[01:22] <Loshki> Riku-san: yes, what does that tell you?
[01:22] <OerHeks> Otani, how about just type blind your password?
[01:23] <PariahVi> Sorry about running away.  Firefox started eating up my CPU and memory for some reason
[01:23] <daftykins> Otani: what OerHeks said - why do you need to see it?
[01:23] <Riku-san> that I can't install ubuntu touch because the boot image is 176 KB too large
[01:23] <Otani> daftykins: I will give it a try
[01:23] <daftykins> Riku-san: maybe try via forums / mailing lists
[01:23] <Loshki> Riku-san: I was thinking rather, that the touch is pretty poorly adopted.
[01:24] <Riku-san> Loshki: there's 241 people on #ubuntu-touch
[01:24] <squinty> Otani:  you were asking about this information and now are just going to ignore it.  ok   <squinty> Otani:  https://help.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en   >   All of these scripts are run with root privilege  (and pertinent surrounding text)
[01:24] <Riku-san> just nobody is saying anything
[01:24] <Loshki> Riku-san: all of them dead...
[01:25] <Loshki> Riku-san: maybe it's one of those channels where you post and then have to wait a few days for someone to answer.
[01:26] <Otani> squinty: I am very much a Ubuntu noob. So lots of tech stuff doesnt help.
[01:26] <b43> anybody kno how to clear recent file list on abiword??
[01:26] <Kardos> people use abiword? heh cool
[01:27] <squinty> Otani:  ahhh.. ok   well maybe you should mature up and decide what you want then
[01:27] <Kardos> there's almost certainly a "dotfile" named something like ~/.abiword that has that in there, which you can edit
[01:27] <b43> i switched over to lubuntu from windows, im tired of the backdoor BS
[01:27] <ubuntuaddicted> how do i prevent pulseaudio from even loading a module for my HDMI audio?
[01:27] <b43> how do i find it??
[01:27] <b43> sorry, im a major noob with this, 1st time ever in linux, less than 1 month
[01:28] <b43> altho with windows, been practically a net admin since the 90s somewhat
[01:28] <daftykins> b43: open the terminal, "ls -a" to see hidden files in your home folder, browse.
[01:28] <Otani> squinty: Uhmmm... weird. Cause here I thought I made what I wanted quite clear. Being able to tell Ubuntu to ignore the broken monitor so I could have my login screen on the monitor.
[01:28] <seal_ball> Jordan? ;-;
[01:28] <Otani> squinty: Made that abunduntly clear the entire time.
[01:28] <Kardos> b43: use a plain text editor (gedit, etc) to edit /home/username/.abiword and see if there's something in there. that's almost certainly where it'd be.
[01:28] <b43> i can see hidden files already in the gui, but i have no idea where to look
[01:28] <b43> i press ctrl h
[01:28] <basil1x> b43 You might like bleachbit.  It removes all sorts of nonsense. ;)
[01:29] <daftykins> b43: oh ok, GUI way fair enough :P find a folder for abiword, might be beneath .config
[01:29] <b43> i tried bleachbit, either i just did not kno how to use it, but all it removed was lubuntu temp files
[01:29] <daftykins> yeah you're not the first to be told to try it and it not work
[01:29] <daftykins> i don't think it does what people expect it to
[01:29] <b43> ok im inside the abiword folder, no luck with the file
[01:30] <b43> no .abiword file in abiword folder
[01:30] <daftykins> no it won't be called that
[01:30] <daftykins> what's there? a config? a profile?
[01:30] <OerHeks> b43 where do you get recent files?
[01:31] <b43> templates folder, abicollab.profile, profile
[01:31] <daftykins> b43: if your windows experience is so, ever edited a program's .ini? ;)
[01:31] <b43> only 3 things in there
[01:31] <daftykins> there you go, profile.
[01:31] <b43> recent files r the files i just made today
[01:31] <daftykins> edit profile with a text editor
[01:31] <b43> cant i just delete it, i dont care about the settings??
[01:31] <Loshki> squinty: Otani: the key thing is that you have a gui which disables the hardware. If we can find out how that works, we can duplicate it.
[01:32] <b43> thats what i did when i found the .mtpaint file, it just deleted the settings n recent files
[01:32] <fangantison> hi guys, what is a kernel oops error?
[01:32] <daftykins> b43: try a rename first, then the program will be defaulted
[01:32] <b43> ok let me try that rename
[01:32] <b43> hold on
[01:32] <delinquentme> I've got this: $ yes | gcloud compute disks delete --zone us-central1-a ("%s-%02d" ${2} ${i})       ... and I want the last bit to evaluate to black-00 , black-01, black-02 .... black-50   ... while looping through it .. what am I missing
[01:32] <delinquentme> ?
[01:32] <daftykins> b43: oh that was you too? damn and you didn't use the same approach with this program already?
[01:32] <fangantison> blah blah blah cpu #2 was stuck for 22 seconds... :(
[01:32] <Otani> Loshki: The GUI only disabled the display once I log in.
[01:32] <fangantison> i just reinstalled and lost everything
[01:32] <b43> lol im a noob here, sorry
[01:33] <b43> renamed, gonna open program
[01:33] <daftykins> delinquentme: try #bash if you get no reply.
[01:33] <Loshki> Otani: that's not the point. If we can find out how it works, we can disable the display whenever we want.
[01:33] <Shaan> hey guys i bought a cloud server with ubuntu 14.04 on it i go run my firewall script on it and it tells me no iptables, i run iptables -h says command not found.
[01:33] <b43> yey it worked, renamed it now abiword cannot see it, n made a new file called profile
[01:33] <b43> so im deletin the renamed file hehe
[01:33] <daftykins> Shaan: install iptables then
[01:33] <Otani> Loshki: ~/.config/monitors.xml controls it. It is the file that settings->displays edits.
[01:34] <daftykins> b43: so if i see you come in asking how to remove the recent files in "Program3" hope that i'm not around ok? ;)
[01:34] <Otani> Loshki: but again, that only works once you log in. I came here trying to find out if there is some default setting that gnome uses prior ot login.
[01:34] <b43> yey, i should have switched over long time ago, but the thing that stopped me was linux used to be cli, i can work with cli but i just hate it with a passion, n im not as good as in gui
[01:35] <seal_ball> If I install ubuntu on a seperate partition while ubuntu CAN find Win7, would GNU GRUB work and would my windows installation be unscaved except the partition would be taken from the 1tb hdd?
[01:35] <b43> hahaha sorry
[01:35] <Shaan> daftykins but is it normal?
[01:35] <Shaan> and apt-get install iptasbles?
[01:35] <fangantison> does anyone know what a kerneloops error is?
[01:35] <daftykins> Shaan: normal not to have it as default? yes
[01:35] <b43> i remember as a net admin i was sooooo mean to people askin noob stuff lmao, but that was in windows
[01:35] <OerHeks> Shaan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[01:35] <Loshki> Otani: half way there. Presumably something reads that file and acts on it. Might pay to ask this on #gnome.
[01:36] <delinquentme> daftykins, thanks !
[01:36] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Yes.
[01:36] <Otani> I thought perhaps xorg.conf might be the default settings file, prior to login, but I searched, and there is no xorg.conf file on my system.
[01:36] <ubuntuaddicted> for some reason my xubuntu terminal lost it's menu bar at the top for me to open new tabs etc etc. how do i get it back?
[01:36] <Shaan> OerHeks it wont help given that ita not instsalled and current user above you just pointed out it is normal not have iptables installed
[01:36] <basil1x> Right-click, and make a new menu bar?
[01:36] <b43> thx a bunch yall, saved me again hehe
[01:37] <squinty> Loshki:  and they will more than likely refer him to https://help.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en   5.1. Scripting Integration Points   unless he explores this avenu
[01:37] <b43> haha ill try not be such a noob anymore, im close to bein a month long linux user
[01:38] <squinty> avenue, I suspect he is just wanting hand holding all the way.  anyways I am out of this topic.....
[01:38] <seal_ball> Thank you for your help.
[01:38] <seal_ball> Is there a way to check if there would be any hardware incompatibilities?
[01:39] <Otani> squinty, oscar nominee for the best supporting elitist prick in a help channel.
[01:39] <b43> how was i supposed to kno it was the file named profile, when on program #1 the file is .'program name'
[01:39] <bazhang> lose the attitude Otani
[01:40] <bazhang> !guidelines | Otani
[01:40] <Loshki> Otani: xorg.conf doesn't exist by default any more, but you can still configure it, if you know how :-). I don't.
[01:40] <b43> ooh, let me stop while im ahead
[01:40] <b43> thx again for the help yall, let me get out of the way
[01:40] <Otani> Loshki: neither do I, hence why I was hoping there was a default to look at.
[01:40] <Jordan_U> seal_ball: Mostly just by trying things out in the live session before installing.
[01:41] <fangantison> what causes kernel panics?
[01:41] <Andreas> hello
[01:42] <Loshki> Otani: Any of this work? http://superuser.com/questions/701716/disabling-laptop-monitor-when-external-hdmi-monitor-is-plugged-in
[01:43] <Loshki> fangantison: bugs. Not much the casual user can do about them except report them.
[01:43] <squinty> Otani:  as stated before Otani   go grab some maturity.  you have been offered revelvent help... so don't blame me if you are too lazy to explore the options.
[01:43] <CodeGosu> can i somehow suspend ( make them consume 0% cpu ) proceses by name? 'some_magic_command -blahblah chrome'
[01:43] <Andreas> i found problem in my bacbox
[01:43] <Andreas> can all help me ?
[01:43] <bubbasaures> !details | Andreas
[01:43] <Otani> Loshki: I tried xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary. But again, that only deals with once you have logged in. It doesnt change prior to login
[01:43] <OerHeks> Andreas what is bacbox?
[01:43] <Andreas> backbox linux ;)
[01:44] <fangantison> Loshki: mine couldn't connect to the internet and it said cpu #2 was stuck for 22 seconds and it became super slow
[01:44] <fangantison> so i reinstalled >=(
[01:44] <Andreas> http://backbox.org/
[01:44] <dbreeden> quit
[01:44] <Loshki> Otani: does the xrandr command work after you have logged in.
[01:44] <OerHeks> Andreas, only ubuntu is supported, backbox has its own issues
[01:44] <rww> Andreas: #ubuntu only supports Ubuntu and official derivatives. Please contact your distro for support.
[01:44] <EriC^^> fangantison: you can use an older kernel
[01:44] <Loshki> fangantison: which version of the OS?
[01:44] <Andreas> hmmm
[01:44] <Andreas> oke
[01:44] <Andreas> #leave
[01:45] <Otani> Loshki: Yes, but again, that only affects your settings once you log in. Not any default settings gnome might have before login.
[01:45] <fangantison> ubuntu 14.10 (upgraded from 14.04) i had the mac theme on it
[01:46] <Loshki> Otani: I'm wondering what would happen if you run the command from /etc/rc.local before gnome starts.
[01:46] <Otani> I have a script to do that.
[01:46] <Finetundra> EriC^^, where did you get those instructions you gave me about repairing grub?
[01:46] <Otani> er, its part of .bashrc
[01:47] <squinty> Finetundra:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting  is one good source
[01:48] <Loshki> Otani: stuff in /etc/rc.local runs before gnome starts and is run as root. Stuff in .bashrc runs *after* you login and is run as you. Very different. No guarantee it'll work.
[01:48] <Otani> Loshki: the end of ~/.bashrc is xandr --output LVDS1 --primary
[01:48] <Otani> Loshki: Ok, I will give it a try
[01:48] <FreewheelinFrank> anyone working on i2p?
[01:49] <Loshki> Actually, I'd like to know what squinty thinks of running xrandr from /etc/rc.local. I'm not sure it will actually work.
[01:50] <Otani> Loshki: Dont bother, squinty wont help me anymore.
[01:50] <Lxus> Evening all
[01:50] <Finetundra> squinty, good thought, but that wasn't what EriC^^ gave me. what he gave me was for installing windows post ubuntu install
[01:50] <EriC^^> Finetundra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[01:51] <mulga> !worth 1
[01:51] <mulga> hmm
[01:51] <mulga> !w 1
[01:51] <Finetundra> EriC^^ thank you good sir
[01:52] <mulga> bot...
[01:52] <squinty> Finetundra:  same info basically as EriC^^ just posted
[01:52] <mulga> !help
[01:52] <Loshki> Otani: rc.local it is then...
[01:52] <EriC^^> mulga: what's up?
[01:52] <Otani> Loshki: I already added it. It is restarting now.
[01:53] <Finetundra> squinty, yes but that helps if grub is still partially functioning, as far as i understand. but perhaps i'm wrong
[01:53] <Otani> Loshki: As assumed, did not work.
[01:54] <mulga> Eric^^: ahh, the bot seems to be having difficulties that's all
[01:54] <mulga> !worth 1
[01:54] <mulga> ^^ :(
[01:54] <OerHeks> mulga, that is no command
[01:54] <EriC^^> what's that do?
[01:55] <EriC^^> !cookie | mulga
[01:55] <mulga> has a bunch of different commands that give info on darkcoin  network stats etc
[01:55] <EriC^^> mulga: this is freenode
[01:55] <OerHeks> mulga wrong channel :-D
[01:55] <mulga> ah, LOL
[01:55] <Lxus> Is there any way i can reposition the window control buttons on fullscreen and non fullscreen windows?
[01:56] <LemonSqueeze> Hello, i trying to get my netflix desktop app to work... I have it installed and am able to open in up. WHen I try to make a selection it says that i need to enable the microsoft silverlight plugin.... which for linux is moonlight. WHen trying to install moonlight by following their download instructions on this page (http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/) I try the first step in the terminal bu
[01:56] <mulga> my mistake :)
[01:56] <EriC^^> mulga: :)
[01:56] <mulga> i thought somthing was a miss
[01:56] <lama2p0> Hello, could someone help me get my nvidia driver working? x doesn't seem to want to start after installing nvidia driver. I believe it was 340.58 driver, from Additional Drivers.
[01:57] <Pl34se> hi all
[01:57] <squinty> Finetundra:  GRUB > The seriousness of the problem cannot be assessed without the use of another operating system or an Ubuntu LiveCD or equivalent. The Ubuntu partition should be mounted for inspection and the user can then check to see if the system files are intact. If so, the user can use the ''ChRoot'' procedure from the LiveCD to reinstall GRUB 2 and rewrite the information to the MBR.   on that page.  probably EriC^^ is more st
[01:57] <squinty> raight forward though.  most of those pages have links refering back to other pages for additional information though... just have to do a little digging now and then  :P
[01:57] <Jordan_U> LemonSqueeze: Just use Google Chrome and netflix should work now.
[01:58] <Pl34se> i've got the same problem :         http://askubuntu.com/questions/131440/sound-card-hp-beats-edition-envy-14-codec-idt-92hd81b1x5
[01:58] <Pl34se> but it's unsolved...
[01:58] <Pl34se> (for me)
[01:59] <LemonSqueeze> Jordan_U: i have chromium installed, whenever i make a selection on there... it says an error has accoured
[01:59] <OerHeks> Lxus use dconf > org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences >> button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close' (you can chenge the order here)
[01:59] <LemonSqueeze> occoured*
[01:59] <Jordan_U> LemonSqueeze: Unfortunately you need the proprietary ugly DRM that only Google Chrome can provide :(
[02:00] <LemonSqueeze> Jordan_U: so much for open source huh?
[02:00] <Lxus> OerHeks: will this allow me to change to position from the left side to say the right side?
[02:01] <OerHeks> Lxus, sure, note the ':' in front of minimise, put it at the end
[02:01] <lama2p0> don't like it, don't use it. lol
[02:01] <OerHeks> minimize,maximize,close:
[02:02] <OerHeks> Lxus or other way around, standard is at the end
[02:02] <Lxus> OerHeks: Thank you very much, should make my time re-adjusting to linux much easier <3
[02:02] <Pl34se> nobody can help me ? it's a snd_hda_intel problem i think... or maybe the codec IDT 92HD81B1X5
[02:03] <Pl34se> alsamixer is OK, driver installed, just no sound :S
[02:03] <Phillies> anyone know if its possible to point specific traffic thru a vpn only or certain applications i guess
[02:04] <Pl34se> yes Phillies
[02:04] <Pl34se> you can easily use iptables
[02:04] <Pl34se> depends on what you exactly need ?
[02:04] <Phillies> what about the opposite  like make everything use the vpn except   plexhomethreatre
[02:05] <Phillies> so basickly just an exempt from the vpn for plexhometheatre
[02:05] <Pl34se> it's a name
[02:05] <Mightcould3> ok so i just finished googling the rasberry pi, its a tiny mobo with a 700mhz chip and few ports. again... why is this better than my pocket computer (phone) with a dual core 1200mhz chip? same ports, less features than my phone. i just dont get it?
[02:06] <Phillies> what do you mean ?
[02:06] <Pl34se> i need adresses (source and/or destination), interface (ethX)
[02:06] <Phillies> i kinda new to nix
[02:07] <joneshf-laptop> I'm looking to use a node-webkit application on 14.04, problem is n-w is build with libudev.so.0 and that stopped shipping with 13.04. I'd like to just install the libudev0 package from 12.04 on 14.04, will this cause issues?
[02:08] <joneshf-laptop> also, is there a way to reference this from the terminal? I'm just ssh'ing to a server running 14.04
[02:08] <Jordan_U> Phillies: The simplest solution is likely to just configure different apps to be run with different *_proxy environment variables: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/proxy_settings#Environment_variables .
[02:10] <joneshf-laptop> maybe a better question is, how can i reference just the one package from 12.04?
[02:10] <joneshf-laptop> to install it
[02:11] <Pl34se> joneshf-laptop : i think you can download the sources on the package
[02:11] <Pl34se> and buid it under 14.04
[02:12] <Pl34se> or your can uninstall your libudev and install with : apt-get install libudev.so.0=[version souhaitée]
[02:12] <Pl34se> [version needed]
[02:12] <Pl34se> sorry, it's late in france xD
[02:12] <jmadero> hi all - I just installed 14.04 from scratch and installed cinnamon - my window decorations look terrible....no clue why they didn't carry over from my config. Any suggestions on how to change it?
[02:12] <lama2p0> can anyone help me figure out why x won't start after installing nvidia driver 340.58?
[02:13] <Pl34se> lama2p0 : and when you make 'startx' at boot ?
[02:14] <lama2p0> gives a black screen
[02:14] <Mightcould3> i have a problem, /join #ubuntu off-topic  isnt working for me, and i got the urge to engage in meaningless conversations with people i'll never meet in my life. and i dont wanna do it here and upset people.
[02:15] <lama2p0> Ctrl alt f1 again, and its stopped at "Loafing extension GLX"
[02:16] <squinty> Mightcould3:  ubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <Mightcould3> ohh... mybad. thanks
[02:16] <squinty> yw
[02:16] <jmadero> Mightcould3: there are never spaces in chat rooms for IRC as far as I know :-b
[02:16] <OerHeks> lama2p0, how did you install the nvidia driver, from the website?
[02:17] <lama2p0> from addition drivers gui
[02:17] <FreewheelinFrank> anyone using i2p?
[02:17] <OerHeks> Mightcould3, #ubuntu-offtopic, not #ubuntu off-topic
[02:17] <Mightcould3> yeah i got it now, thanks buddy!
[02:17] <Pl34se> lama2p0: lol you choosed [current version] ?
[02:17] <lama2p0> I also tried doing nvidia-xconfig after
[02:18] <lama2p0> I'm not sure? I chose the latest which I believe was 340.58
[02:18] <OerHeks> lama2p0, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  ( and reboot)
[02:19] <Pl34se> or gdm if you use it
[02:19] <OerHeks> gdm is old., ubuntu uses lightdm
[02:19] <Pl34se> oh ^^ ok
[02:19] <lama2p0> I'm on ubuntugnome if that changes it??
[02:20] <Pl34se> i use lightdm too
[02:20] <Pl34se> try lightgdm lama2p0
[02:21] <Pl34se> lightdm*
[02:21] <lama2p0> says lightdm AMD lightgdm are not installed
[02:21] <lama2p0> and
[02:21] <Pl34se> like OerHeks said. norally that will reconfigure you session connect
[02:21] <Pl34se> oh ok
[02:21] <Pl34se> try gdm so xD
[02:21] <OerHeks> oh, ubuntugnome, not sure that uses lightdm
[02:21] <lama2p0> seems not
[02:22] <lama2p0> gdm went through
[02:23] <lama2p0> same result
[02:23] <squinty> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager    afaik, should work on all to display current dm
[02:24] <OerHeks> lama2p0, what videocard do you have?
[02:24] <squinty> lama2p0:  might want to check the nvidia site to see what driver they say is ok for your card
[02:25] <lama2p0> GTX 870M. its the right driver
[02:25] <OerHeks> oke
[02:25] <Mightcould3> nice a 870m. mobile gpu's have evolved a good bit.
[02:26] <lama2p0> that they have
[02:27] <lama2p0> squinty: says gdm
[02:27] <Mightcould3> can anyone recommend a good 3d game designing software? i wanna make a short sandbox shooter. I've used alice before and made a lame movie. but is there something better/easier to use?
[02:28] <SchrodingersScat> !info blender | Mightcould3
[02:28] <lama2p0> tried reconfigure on that and reboot, but has same result as before, hangs at loading extension GLX
[02:29] <Mightcould3> dude your name reminds me of something i learned in highschool about a cat being both dead and alive. awesome name bro. #zombiecat
[02:29] <Mightcould3> ok ill look into blender tyvm.
[02:29] <SchrodingersScat> Mightcould3: have fun
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> blender is a nice piece of proffessional software indeed
[02:30] <jbud> Hey #ubuntu, my system crashed again today (crash == no mouse or keyboard input, and cant ssh in). I really want to figure out what's causing this, but my log files seem to have some holes between things that happened much earlier today, and the time that my computer started up again
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> !details | jbud
[02:31] <Mightcould3> SchrodingersScat, dude whoa, this is exactly what i was looking for. thanks man you're the best!
[02:32] <jbud> ubottu: My question is, what can I provide for looking into this? It seems like my log files aren't actually logging anything around the time of crash, or perhaps I'm not looking in the right location?
[02:32] <jbud> oops
[02:32] <jbud> @ lotuspsychje
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> jbud: ubuntu version? did you do updates recently?
[02:32] <SchrodingersScat> Mightcould3: great, and there's probably a couple channels for blender or related.  and plenty of media around.  Have a good time.
[02:33] <jmadero> man 14.10 does not seem stable on my system compared to 14.04 :-/
[02:33] <jbud> lotuspsychje: I had to downgrade back to 13.10 after a horrible fail experience with 14.04 and 14.10
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> jbud: 13.10 is eol mate
[02:33] <jbud> My system kept hanging every 2 hours with 14.04 and 14.10
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> jbud: 14.04 should be most stable atm
[02:34] <Pl34se> excuse me i've a question, what's the process which launch "nm-applet" when the session start ?
[02:34] <squinty> lama2p0:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i warning  (or Errors etc)  may or may not give clue.  not really up on all the ins and outs of this file so more of a suggestion  :)
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> jbud: i would reinstall 14.04 and findout what crashes
[02:35] <jbud> lotuspsychje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250105  nobody has been able to help me though
[02:35] <jbud> I think its an issue with X, since the system is hanging in 14.04 and 14.10 but I can still move the mouse, hear sound, and ssh into the comp
[02:35] <jbud> Not nouveau or nvidia though, since I had the same issue with both drivers
[02:35] <jbud> But the X team won't reply to me
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> 14.10 is causing grafix issues for a lot of users atm
[02:36] <rgenito_> hmm, i'm having trouble assigning a different home folder for a currently existing user
[02:36] <jbud> I read that Ubuntu is closely built to Xorg, so I can't use Ubuntu 14.04 with an older version of X?
[02:36] <rgenito_> if i do "sudo chown $user:$user directory" , any reason why that directory's owner doesn't change? o.O
[02:36] <jbud> lotuspsychje: grafix issues as in the system hanging as well?
[02:37] <EriC^^> rgenito_: are you doing $USER or $user ?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> jbud: thats possible
[02:37] <EriC^^> rgenito_: nevermind
[02:37] <rgenito_> EriC^^, actually, i'm doing sudo chown usernamehere:usernamehere folder
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> jbud: i would stick to 14.04
[02:38] <lama2p0> squinty: , that has something that seems to stand out for me.. "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)"
[02:38] <EriC^^> rgenito_: is it a ntfs or fat filesystem?
[02:38] <rgenito_> oooh sheit
[02:38] <rgenito_> i forgot about that -.-
[02:38] <jbud> lotuspsychje: But I had the same issue with 14.04, it hung every 2 hours
[02:38] <rgenito_> damn it lol
[02:38] <EriC^^> :D
[02:38] <jbud> I'm just not sure what I can do to fix the situation
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> jmadero: same for you mate, stick to 14.04 for now
[02:38] <rgenito_> thanks EriC^^ ;D great catch
[02:38] <EriC^^> np
[02:38] <rgenito_> wait @.@
[02:38] <rgenito_> how do i determine if it's NTFS or not?
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> jbud: check dmesg errors or /var/log/syslog
[02:39] <rgenito_> because honestly, i think it's ext3...
[02:39] <EriC^^> rgenito_: sudo blkid
[02:39] <rgenito_> don't see why i would've EVER put ntfs on this thing...
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> jbud: did you also check additional drivers section?
[02:39] <jmadero> lotuspsychje: yeah - I always like trying the newer releases, for the next few days I'll stick with 14.10 and see if I need to format and start over
[02:39] <rgenito_> aww wtf it is ntfs...
[02:39] <jbud> lotuspsychje: yes, I swapped between a few of the nvidia drivers
[02:39] <rgenito_> i seriously want to make this ext3 now -.- lol
[02:39] <jmadero> I was happy to see Cinnamon in the main repos
[02:39] <jbud> I tried nouveau and also nvidia's blobs
[02:39] <jmadero> but if it's really unstable for me
[02:39] <jmadero> ext3? why not 4?
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> jbud: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled/updates during install?
[02:40] <jbud> Actually turned that off, I've had problems with broadcom updates freezing the install, so I install those updates afterwards
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> jbud: its really reccomended to cable eth0 during a fresh setup
[02:41] <jbud> lotuspsychje: Oh I do, but it tries to install broadcom drivers during the install anyways
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> jbud: its important for ubuntu to choose the right drivers right away
[02:41] <jimbow> what is that feature on osx that programs don't quit when all windows are closed called?
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> jimbow: maybe the #mac guys might know
[02:42] <jimbow> thanks!
[02:42] <jimbow> i tried osx and nobody was there
[02:42] <jbud> Ah man, really upset about this situation :( I feel stuck with any path that I take. In either case my computer keeps freezing on me
[02:43] <rypervenche> rgenito_: I'd got ext4 as well. Faster and higher limits :)
[02:43] <jimbow> is there something similar in ubuntu?
[02:43] <rypervenche> go*
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> jbud: lets focus on the issues rather then getting frustrated
[02:43] <jimbow> that would make it awesome
[02:43] <rgenito_> :D
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> jimbow: try compizconfig-settings-managers for tweaking plugins
[02:44] <jbud> lotuspsychje: Okay, but how can I fix this? I can upgrade again to 14.04, but given the likely case that I'll run into that regular system hanging, what can I do?
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> -s
[02:44] <SchrodingersScat> jimbow: screen? tmux?
[02:44] <jimbow> lotuspsychje: you know what i'm talking about right?
[02:44] <jimbow> SchrodingersScat: no, i'm talking about in osx you have to quit the programs in order for them to quit
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> jbud: i would reccomend a fresh 14.04 install with cable on
[02:44] <squinty> jimbow: think he mistab your nick
[02:45] <jimbow> so if you closed all the windows you can still open a new window
[02:45] <jimbow> really handy
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> i did not mistype, you can tweak unity plugins to search if there's a macosx alike thing
[02:45] <jbud> lotuspsychje: Okay, but I did that last time. What should I do when the system hangs? My log files didn't say anything related to the hang
[02:45] <jimbow> where is compizconfig?
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> jbud: there must be a good reason your system freezes on trusty
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | jimbow
[02:46] <jbud> lotuspsychje: Yes, I'd really like to fix it. But at this point I'm pretty blind to what the cause is, because it seems to happen at completely random moments
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> jbud: would be interesting to tail -f /var/log/syslog to see errros in realtime
[02:48] <jbud> lotuspsychje: Actually I kept a backup of 2 of those crash cases, including the syslog. Maybe I could upload those and see it anything stands out?
[02:48] <lijtao> @linliu
[02:49] <jimbow> thanks lotuspsychje
[02:49] <jimbow> i just downloaded it
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> jbud: you can always share syslog on pasteubuntu
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> jimbow: there are some plugins-extras you can download for more unity plugins
[02:49] <jimbow> i wish i knew what the feature is called, so i can search for the appropriate plugin
[02:50] <jimbow> and the mac guys are telling me that's an unnamed feature, great :(*
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> jimbow: not sure whats the name of osx feature, but most compiz plugins you can enable/tweak there
[02:50] <jimbow> yeah i wish i knew what it was called
[02:51] <jimbow> do you know what i'm talking abou though?
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> not sure mate sorry
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> jimbow: if you find name, we can search for ubuntu alternative
[02:52] <jimbow> have you ever used a mac?
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> im an ubuntu fan :p
[02:52] <EriC^^> jimbow: what's the feature do?
[02:52] <jimbow> well, basically it doesn't quit the program after all windows are closed
[02:52] <jimbow> so you can reopen windows after you closed all of them
[02:53] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell what resolution wallpaper i need?
[02:53] <jimbow> in order to quit a program, you must quit it
[02:53] <EriC^^> jimbow: so you mean pressing "x" basically minimizes it?
[02:53] <jbud> lotuspsychje: I think the syslog was too big, it wouldn't let me post all of it, but here's the tail 20%: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8954199/
[02:53] <jimbow> EriC^^:  in a way, the window is closed, but the process is still running
[02:53] <klys> that would be a window-manager feature.
[02:54] <azizLIGHT> please advise
[02:54] <azizLIGHT> :)
[02:54] <klys> systems this year don't have perfect window managers, just like there aren't perfect irc clients.
[02:54] <azizLIGHT> my monitor is pretty sure is 1080p native resolution, but 1080p wallpaper looks bad on it. i dont understand
[02:56] <samthewildone> !html
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> jbud: a lot of acpi errors on there, still checking more
[02:58] <klys> azizlight: take a look at the logged resolution Xorg set in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:58] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, get a better monitor, or better wallpaper, or fiddle with brightness  and color temp
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> jbud: did you try to check bios for acpi? maybe do a bios reset or bios flash?
[02:58] <EriC^^> jimbow: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4618/why-mac-applications-never-get-closed
[02:58] <EriC^^> jimbow: a post mentions on linux both are possible
[02:59] <jbud> lotuspsychje: I have to admit something..I'm not entirely sure what ACPI is :$
[02:59] <jbud> !acpi
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> jbud: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[03:00] <jimbow> thanks EriC^^
[03:00] <EriC^^> np
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> jbud: Oct 26 15:50:23 jbud-pc kernel: [   10.630569] b43 ssb0:0: Direct firmware load failed with error -2
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> jbud: broadcom giving problems aswell
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> jbud: nouveau giving errors aswell...
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> jbud: i really reccomend a fresh 14.04 install with eth0 cable on/updates during install
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> jbud: then continue solving issues from there
[03:08] <azizLIGHT> ok
[03:09] <azizLIGHT> can i set the color of the launcher background so its different from the wallpaper?
[03:12] <jbud> lotuspsychje: It looks like my ACPI driver is pretty far behind..could that be the actual cause? I know it can't be broadcom, because that's been an issue for me since forever. And I had the same issue w/ nouveau and nvidia's blobs too
[03:12] <jbud> lotuspsychje:  *2 years old on the BIOS driver
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> jbud: you can try from all sides
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Theming
[03:14] <corax> helle everyone ... a quick question ... if I use the MATE environment, how do I get the bottom panel to have more than one row (process bar) ?
[03:14] <corax> *hello
[03:14] <xangua> corax: you mean the window list¿
[03:15] <corax> xangua: yes :-)
[03:15] <jbud> lotuspsychje: Well, really nervous to do the upgrade again. But I guess I can't hide behind these errors anymore. Thanks for the tips buddy, I'm gonna try going back to 14.04 again
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> jbud: dont upgrade mate, fresh install 14.04
[03:15] <dale_> how do I remove the guest account? its not in the settings
[03:15] <xangua> corax: well you basically...need to made the panel hight bigger
[03:16] <corax> xangua: yes... I how to do that ? :-)
[03:16] <jbud> Oops that's what I meant, reinstall to 14.04
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> dale_: you can tweak that in lightdm settings
[03:16] <xangua> corax: right clic-properties¿
[03:16] <dale_> thanks
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> dale_: need to add some lines to disable guest
[03:17] <corax> xangua: I only have "Preferences" when I right click (which is hard by the way as there is too much going on in the bottom panel)
[03:17] <dale_> can't find lightdm in settings
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> dale_: holdon
[03:18] <corax> xangua: aaahh got it
[03:18] <xangua> corax: mmm sorry, I really don't remember how to configure gnome2 or even know if mate changed something
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> dale_: edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[03:19] <dale_> thanks
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> dale_: and add the line: allow-guest=false
[03:19] <dale_> thanks again
[03:19] <corax> xangua: the trick is to unlock minimum one item from the panel in order to access its "Properties" from a right-click.
[03:20] <boozler> Is there a way to connect to my r-pi with a direct ethernet connection? having network issues...
[03:20] <klys> the linux answer: right click and go properties...
[03:20] <dale_> I don't have a lightdm.conf
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> dale_: wich ubuntu version?
[03:20] <corax> xangua: damn...resizing didn't help ... it only made things bigger ...not giving more room for a second row in the window-list :-(
[03:20] <dale_> 14.04 LTS
[03:21] <xangua> corax: I believe it will only create another row when the list is full, 48px as minimum
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> dale_: try this one: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf
[03:22] <corax> xangua: I did set it to 48px ...and my row is very full ...no chance :-(
[03:23] <brucelee> anyone know how to use the interface-order file? for resolvconf? i read man interface-order, but it doesn't say anything about the syntax
[03:23] <brucelee> it gave some examples, but it doesnt explain the syntax
[03:23] <yuyudhn> hii
[03:23] <brucelee> would love it if someone could actually tell me how to use /etc/resolvconf/interface-order
[03:23] <manikanta> Hi
[03:23] <EriC^^> yuyudhn: hello
[03:23] <napoli> sera
[03:23] <napoli> hello
[03:23] <manikanta> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:23] <manikanta>  libboost-all-dev : Depends: libboost-graph-parallel-dev but it is not going to be installed
[03:23] <manikanta>                     Depends: libboost-mpi-dev but it is not going to be installed
[03:23] <manikanta>                     Depends: libboost-mpi-python-dev but it is not going to be installed
[03:23] <manikanta> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:24] <manikanta> How to proceed from that?
[03:24] <unopaste> manikanta you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> dale_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451526/removing-guest-session-at-login-in-ubuntu-14-04
[03:24] <somsip> manikanta: last time I saw that it was because of a bad PPA. Do you have any PPAs in use?
[03:25] <manikanta> Yes
[03:25] <yuyudhn> why i cant install phpmyadmin ?? dbconfig-common not installed.. :(
[03:25] <dale_> it worked, no guest account, thanks honorable guru
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> !yay | dale_
[03:25] <manikanta> How to remove that bad **ppa's** ?
[03:25] <manikanta> From sources list?
[03:26] <somsip> !ppa-purge | manikanta
[03:26] <manikanta> Cool. In my case how to check that boost ppa's?
[03:28] <somsip> manikanta: are you using a PPA for libboost?
[03:29] <manikanta> I dont know exactly. I have installed it from different sources. Now I'm not in a position to tell which I should remove?
[03:29] <manikanta> Where I can find ppa's in my system ?
[03:30] <corax> xangua: got it ...it just needed a lot more space
[03:30] <somsip> manikanta: they are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:31] <manikanta> Yes. They is one thing related to boost, mapnik-boost-precise..may I have to remove that..
[03:31] <manikanta> *there
[03:32] <somsip> manikanta: difficult to know for sure, but from what you've said so far it looks like libboost is a problem, and if that PPA provides an alternative version of libboost it may be causing the problem
[03:33] <manikanta> Exactly. Before my that mapnik installation, my application worked. After this libboost is now working and having  some dependencies.
[03:33] <manikanta> So how to remove this mapnik-boost? I'm sure this is causing problem
[03:33] <somsip> manikanta: all signs are currently pointing at the mapnik PPA then
[03:33] <somsip> !ppa-purge | manikanta (same answer as before)
[03:34] <EriC^^> manikanta: how did you add it?
[03:34] <EriC^^> type history | grep mapnik
[03:34] <manikanta> from this link: https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik/wiki/UbuntuInstallation
[03:35] <EriC^^> which version?
[03:35] <manikanta> There is a boost installation section at the bottom on that link
[03:35] <manikanta> I installed boost from that.
[03:35] <manikanta>  ppa:mapnik/boost
[03:36] <EriC^^> ok
[03:36] <somsip> manikanta: sudo ppa-purge ppa:mapnik/boost
[03:36] <EriC^^> sudo ppa-purge ppa:mapnik/boost
[03:37] <napoli> laky
[03:37] <napoli> wolf
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> napoli: can we help you?
[03:38] <manikanta> getting this error: after doing ppa-purge  ... http://pastebin.com/kenWZq61
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> manikanta: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[03:39] <manikanta> 12.04
[03:39] <EriC^^> ok whats it say in cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*mapnik* ?
[03:40] <manikanta> mapnik-boost-precise.list and mapnik-boost-precise.list-save
[03:42] <manikanta> what exactly broken packages mean?
[03:42] <manikanta> and unmet dependencies?
[03:43] <klys> it means packages installed that will not be useful nor correct on your system
[03:43] <klys> and packages that would not install and then function
[03:43] <manikanta> So how to remove those from the list?
[03:44] <somsip> manikanta: you've been told 4 times. What are you missing in the instructions?
[03:44] <klys> either satisfy the dependencies or change your mind about something you may want
[03:45] <manikanta> Yes. But after doing ppa-purge, I'm still able to find mapnik in that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[03:45] <klys> the files in /etc/apt are specific to the apt package.  you are responsible as the local system administrator to configure apt.
[03:46] <geoffmcc> exit
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> this is just why adding ppa's are not really recommended
[03:48] <manikanta> yeah :'(
[03:48] <OerHeks> afer purge, use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:48] <OerHeks> *after
[03:48] <EriC^^> !info libboost-dev precise
[03:48] <RahulAN> Hii all whenever i am trying to install any package i amgetting Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages
[03:48] <RahulAN> with many lis
[03:48] <RahulAN> *list
[03:48] <EriC^^> manikanta: type apt-cache policy libboost-dev
[03:49] <EriC^^> paste the installed version
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: what does policy do?
[03:49] <ubuntuaddicted> how would i prevent alsa from loading the driver for my Nvidia HDMI audio device? I don't use it and don't want it to show up within pavucontrol?
[03:49] <RahulAN> https://bpaste.net/show/766d150b0863   some thing like this i am getting
[03:50] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: it's supposed to show the apt_preferences, but it can show if it's installed and what version is installed
[03:50] <RahulAN> please suggest any way to remove them
[03:50] <manikanta> EriC ::  http://pastebin.com/dakfJ2Tp
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: same as in apt-cache show package?
[03:50] <klys> rahulan, # dselect
[03:51] <RahulAN> klys,  Means?
[03:51] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: no, it shows what's installed on the system
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ok tnx, nice trick
[03:51] <klys> you should be able to run a dselect program as root, rahulan
[03:51] <manikanta> Yeah. 1.49 is installed?
[03:51] <manikanta> Thats from mapnik/boost ppa
[03:51] <manikanta> I want to remove that.
[03:52] <RahulAN> klys, is dselect is a command?
[03:52] <klys> wait
[03:52] <klys> sorry, ubuntu
[03:52] <EriC^^> manikanta: you should have Version 1.48.0.2
[03:52] <manikanta> Yes
[03:52] <manikanta> or 1.46
[03:52] <manikanta> anything is fine
[03:52] <EriC^^> precise has 1.48 right now
[03:53] <Otani> Loshki: Still no luck. Someone showed me where the GDM Init scripts are, and suggested I put my xrandr command in there, but no luck.
[03:53] <RahulAN> klys, it is not installed i am installing it
[03:53] <EriC^^> manikanta: try to remove the sources.list.d entry
[03:53] <EriC^^> and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:53] <EriC^^> ( after apt-get update )
[03:53] <EriC^^> manikanta: see what happens
[03:54] <klys> rahulan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/dselect
[03:54] <EriC^^> dist-upgrade supposedly can remove stuff
[03:54] <EriC^^> manikanta: hold on
[03:54] <manikanta> EriC: you mean : rm mapnik*
[03:54] <manikanta> okay
[03:54] <RahulAN> klys, it is installing by apt-get
[03:55] <klys> rahulan, are you sure that will work
[03:55] <RahulAN> klys, i got error
[03:55] <EriC^^> sudo sed -i 's/^deb/#deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mapnik-boost*
[03:55] <RahulAN> Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.19-12_all.deb
[03:55] <EriC^^> manikanta: type that ^^
[03:56] <RahulAN> klys, ^^
[03:56] <manikanta> done ...now?
[03:56] <EriC^^> manikanta: sudo apt-get update
[03:56] <aoa> hello i need video editor for ubuntu .
[03:56] <klys> rahulan, download the .deb files you basically need and use dpkg -iGREB /path/to.deb
[03:57] <manikanta> Still that unmet dependencies error.
[03:57] <manikanta> While doing this: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[03:57] <manikanta> Adding mapnik/boost is a big error from my side :'( :'( I regret that
[03:57] <EriC^^> manikanta: don't do that
[03:57] <RahulAN> klys, installed
[03:58] <EriC^^> manikanta: did you do apt-get update?
[03:58] <manikanta> yes
[03:58] <EriC^^> ok
[03:58] <manikanta> update done
[03:58] <EriC^^> type apt-cache show libboost-dev | grep Version
[03:58] <RahulAN> klys, it gave some errors but its installed and that command is working, Next what to do>??
[03:58] <EriC^^> and paste here
[03:58] <EriC^^> let's see if it sees the old version of precise now
[03:58] <klys> rahulan, apt-get -f install
[03:58] <OerHeks> aoa try openshot, avidemux or kdenlive
[03:58] <manikanta> Version: 1.49.0.1ubuntu1~precise2
[03:58] <manikanta> Version: 1.48.0.2
[03:59] <EriC^^> ok it sees both apparently
[03:59] <EriC^^> try to flush away the lists
[03:59] <manikanta> flush away?
[03:59] <EriC^^> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[03:59] <EriC^^> and sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[03:59] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get update
[04:00] <manikanta> done
[04:00] <wiky> The last AMD GPU driver can be installed in ubuntu14.04 and everything is OK.Then I replaced ubuntu14.04 by 14.10. But 14.10 cannot start the GUI after installing the driver. Any idea?
[04:00] <EriC^^> manikanta: ok
[04:01] <manikanta> same output as before..
[04:01] <EriC^^> type apt-cache show libboost-dev | grep Version
[04:01] <EriC^^> also both versions show?
[04:01] <EriC^^> !info libboost-all-dev precise
[04:01] <manikanta> not found
[04:01] <EriC^^> did you sudo apt-get update?
[04:01] <manikanta> yes. 1 sec ..
[04:02] <EriC^^> ?
[04:02] <manikanta> EriC: http://pastebin.com/h4pAMh03
[04:02] <EriC^^> you typed type
[04:02] <manikanta> Version: 1.49.0.1ubuntu1~precise2
[04:02] <manikanta> Version: 1.48.0.2
[04:03] <manikanta> Sorry for that..this is the output
[04:03] <manikanta> :)
[04:03] <EriC^^> still there
[04:03] <EriC^^> that's odd
[04:03] <EriC^^> when apt-get is updating
[04:03] <EriC^^> does the mapnik stuff show up?
[04:03] <manikanta> nope
[04:04] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev=1.48.0.2
[04:04] <EriC^^> i guess that should install the old version
[04:05] <EriC^^> i dont know why it still sees the new version though
[04:22] <systempause> what's a good tutorial on github?
[04:22] <SchrodingersScat> A tutorial on how to use github? or a good tutorial hosted on github?
[04:23] <systempause> how to use github
[04:23] <systempause> some nice guy was helping me out the other day and i miss him
[04:23] <systempause> he gave me a nice site and then my ubuntu  had a kerneloops error so i had to reinstall
[04:23] <wiredfool> hey, I've been trying to recover from a borked upgrade -- one of the the last issues I'm having is that apt is trying to install an obsolete version of x11-common: Preparing to replace x11-common 1:7.5+5ubuntu1.1 (using .../x11-common_1%3a7.6+12ubuntu2_all.deb) ...
[04:24] <somsip> !logs | systempause (look over the conversation again here)
[04:24] <OerHeks> systempause, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-git-on-ubuntu-14-04
[04:25] <SchrodingersScat> systempause: and this site is really fancy, https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/
[04:25] <systempause> yes that is it!
[04:25] <systempause> thank you :)
[04:25] <wiredfool> but there's some sort of encoding error in the template: x11-common template parse error: Template parse error near `Choices-sr@latin.UTF-8: Samo glavni korisnik, Samo za korisnike konzole, Svako', in stanza #1 of /tmp/x11-common.template.184640
[04:25] <SchrodingersScat> it even wasn't the worst possible thing in links2
[04:26] <OerHeks> wiredfool, what ubuntu version?
[04:27] <wiredfool> precise
[04:27] <wiredfool> upgrade from lucid
[04:29] <fraytormenta> hey everybody
[04:29] <wiredfool> wait, %3a is probably :, so that is a newer version. but the template is still messed up (which could very well be due to fixing the inconsistent state that it was int)
[04:31] <RahulAN> klys, got error in doing apt-get -f install
[04:32] <RahulAN> klys, https://bpaste.net/show/f9aafc3892e0
[04:32] <RahulAN> klys, this is what i am getting
[04:34] <herpderphurr> hey everyone. Zeitgeist is taking up 50 GiB under my .local directory. Is it safe for me to just delete files generated by Zeitgeist?
[04:35] <SchrodingersScat> !info zeitgeist
[04:36] <OerHeks> herpderphurr, rm ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite && zeitgeist-daemon --replace
[04:36] <herpderphurr> ah, neat. thanks OerHeks
[04:37] <OerHeks> have fun
[04:38] <logy> Hello everyone, I have one question, if anyone here is working in a office like enviroment. I am interested what desktop enviroment you use. Gnome KDE or something else?
[04:39] <logy> For example you work in a firm with 20 computers running linux, i am asking what type of de you use
[04:41] <OerHeks> logy you would get all sorts of answers, use the one that suits you best, gnome, unity, kde, xfce or lde, cinnamon, mate ... there are more
[04:41] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: How and why did you install ' libc6-dev ' ?? ( before we try and remove it for cause ) .
[04:41] <OerHeks> *lxde
[04:41] <logy> Thank you for answer :)
[04:41] <OerHeks> logy it depends on your hardware, really
[04:43] <OerHeks> logy Xubuntu is lightweight, unity/gnome is heavier but more advanced.
[04:44] <klys> rahulan: any progress?
[04:44] <logy> I know, lets say that you have good computers, I am asking because of people working there, how do they get used to the enviroment, if they for example dont usually use Gnome. I for example am not used for gnome and some normal operations require longer time for me
[04:48] <OerHeks> logy all i can say,take your time to learn your desktop, but in a professional environment stick to LTS versions.r
[04:50] <logy> At this moment i am looking  a linux for my laptop.. i liked eos but i want to go gnome, because i have some bugs on eos and its not so powerful as ubuntu gnome 14, and its outdated...
[04:52] <logy> if you have any advice, i am eager to hear it
[04:53]  * squinty seems to remember something about "not eating yellow snow"
[04:54] <Bashing-om> logy: Try it and see if you loke it. All it takes is a few minutes to d/l the .oso and install: http://ubuntugnome.org/download/ .
[04:54] <logy> ty
[04:54] <logy> ty
[04:55] <Bashing-om> like* .iso*
[05:11] <RahulAN> Bashing-om, i didn't installed any thing like that
[05:11] <RahulAN> klys,  no progress same errors
[05:12] <klys> ok
[05:12] <RahulAN> klys,  what to do with deselect??
[05:14] <klys> https://packages.debian.org/sid/libc6-dev
[05:14] <klys> download the .deb and install with dpkg -iGREB /path/to/libc6-dev_*.deb
[05:14] <OerHeks> don't mix debian with ubuntu packages
[05:15] <OerHeks> bad advise
[05:16] <RahulAN> ohkk
[05:19] <OerHeks> RahulAN, utopic uses libc6-dev (2.19-10ubuntu2) so your error with libc6 (= 2.19-12) makes me wonder, are you working with Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[05:22] <adrian_1908> I'm having an issue with a PPA for qBittorrent that doesn't seem to respond (http://pastebin.com/s6wS2hmB). I heard that sometimes ISPs are to blame so I waited a day, but the problem persists. Any suggestion how I can identify the source of the problem?
[05:22] <RahulAN> OerHeks, i am on 12.04
[05:23] <acmeraptor> 12.04 also here
[05:24] <OerHeks> adrian_1908, there are no package candidates for utopic >>  https://launchpad.net/~hydr0g3n/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-stable
[05:24] <sacarlson> adrian_1908: some times the ppa servers don't always work.  did you try the standard repo for bittorents
[05:24] <adrian_1908> OerHeks, oh I see. So I have to wait for the maintainer to get to that, correct?
[05:25] <RahulAN> OerHeks, What must i do for removing this errror
[05:25] <OerHeks> adrian_1908, yes, best thing to do is to roll back with ppa-purge
[05:25] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[05:25] <adrian_1908> OerHeks, thanks.
[05:26] <acmeraptor> hey, so i was here earlier today but kinda didn't ask this question.  ubuntu 12.04, trying to get a netgear n900 usb wireless adapter configured...
[05:26] <OerHeks> adrian_1908, utopic has 3.1.9.2 in the repos
[05:27] <acmeraptor> before i go through a thread i found discussing compiling the driver on my system.. is there one already made that i can apt-get?  the thread is about 2 years old so.. figured it can't hurt to ask
[05:28] <adrian_1908> OerHeks, I tried it, but Qt is falling back on a Windows-XP style GUI so I assumed it's not fully up to date. I had qBittorrent installed on 14.04 before where it looked normal.
[05:30] <OerHeks> RahulAN, not sure what to say, you want guake, not sure how you get into these errors, did you install any PPA ?
[05:31] <RahulAN> yesterday i tried http://milq.github.io/install-opencv-ubuntu-debian/  this guide
[05:31] <RahulAN> and from then i am getting problems
[05:31] <RahulAN> i removed this package then also
[05:32] <RahulAN> OerHeks, ^^
[05:32] <OerHeks> RahulAN, that guide is for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS :-(
[05:32] <OerHeks> you might want to upgrade the distro  to get there
[05:34] <acmeraptor> ping
[05:34] <RahulAN> then what to do ??
[05:34] <RahulAN> OerHeks,
[05:35] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: RahulAN :: remove ' libc6-dev ' and see what results ??
[05:36] <RahulAN> https://bpaste.net/show/69f588923524  Bashing-om
[05:38] <OerHeks> RahulAN, see line 17 >> apt-get -f install
[05:38] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: looking at https://bpaste.net/show/69f588923524 .
[05:40] <Phillies> can u install steam on 14.10?
[05:41] <OerHeks> Phillies, sure,, sudo apt-get install steam
[05:42] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: Well, not as bad as I feared ( apt-cache rdepends libc6-dev ) . Is there any reason you need the 'development' packages on your system ? consider removing them ???
[05:42] <klys> phillies, is philly upenn, or p.u.?
[05:43] <RahulAN> Bashing-om, https://bpaste.net/show/49c48002bdb2
[05:43] <RahulAN> Bashing-om,  apt-cache rdepends libc6-dev   i tried this now what to do??
[05:46] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: 'rdepends' is just what might be effected by a particular package. In thisa case that you have proceeded, I see no hard.
[05:46] <Bashing-om> hard.harm*
[05:47] <Phillies> OerHeks,  ty
[05:47] <Phillies> klys,    ?
[05:48] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: I ask again, what are you doing that you need these 'development' packages in your system ? can we not just remove them to fix this issue ?
[05:49] <klys> phillies?  university of pennsylvania?
[05:49] <RahulAN> Bashing-om, next what do i do??
[05:51] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: Proceed up the chain removing a link at the time starting with removoving ' libusb-1.0-0-dev ' . see what the package manager relates prior to going to the bext link.
[05:51] <Bashing-om> bext/next*
[05:52] <Phillies> negative
[05:52] <Phillies> phillie blunts
[05:52] <klys> ok
[05:52] <RahulAN> I need libusb-1.0-dev
[05:54] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: PK, will be the more diificlt as -> sysop@1404mini:~$ dpkg -l libusb-1.0-0-dev >> dpkg-query: no packages found matching libusb-1.0-0-dev <-. Not a default package .
[05:54] <l0rdn1x> Hello, can someone explain to me why this port is Listening.... ???? tcp        0      0 *:57579                 *:*                     LISTEN
[05:54] <Bashing-om> PK/OK*
[05:55] <RahulAN> Bashing-om, is there any other ways to it  faster
[05:56] <fmoo> hi ubuntu!  So... I just upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 and now grub wont let me enter my passphrase to unlock my hard disk.
[05:56] <fmoo> luckily I had a really old / unencrypted install on a different hard disk so I'm not totally screwed
[05:57] <fmoo> any advice?
[05:57] <OerHeks> l0rdn1x, netstat -an | grep ":57579"     or lsof -i :57579
[05:58] <fmoo> I can probably manually luks my way back to my private data from a different install, but I'd like to fix things up if possible... hopefully my issues aren't indicative of a larger problem with the dist-upgrade
[05:59] <bubbasaures> fmoo, Problem is onnly the ones with trouble come here, you're the first I've seen.
[05:59] <l0rdn1x> OerHeks, the port is wide open, udp, and tcp http://i.imgur.com/33j7HF8.png
[06:00] <l0rdn1x> ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[06:00] <OerHeks> l0rdn1x, so what does netstat or lsof say?
[06:00] <eleventhree> hey does mysql run at startup with ubuntu 14?
[06:00] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: Quite frankly, I do not know of any other way .. perhaps others can advise better .
[06:01] <OerHeks> l0rdn1x, i see in the top bar Skype ?
[06:01] <fmoo> bubbasaures: I'm reasonably competent, but I haven't the an idea of how to start debugging on grub
[06:02] <l0rdn1x> OerHeks, http://sprunge.us/fBVf
[06:02] <fmoo> like, there aren't any logs emitted, none of my favorite key combinations to get me to a console work.
[06:02] <fmoo> I guess I'll do some googling and maybe turn up something
[06:02] <l0rdn1x> OerHeks, yeah I just closed it gonna re-check and see if it was skype.
[06:02] <fmoo> I'm all on relatively modern efi / gpt ish stuff
[06:03] <l0rdn1x> OerHeks, confirmed, it is skype opening ports without permission
[06:03] <|aaron> hi all. i used the 14.04 mini.iso installer and selected just the 'lubuntu desktop' package. the install appeared to work fine but when i rebooted i just get a black screen with mouse cursor
[06:03] <OerHeks> l0rdn1x, without permission is unlikely, but it is normal yes
[06:04] <l0rdn1x> OerHeks, k, I don't run skype all the time so I should be good, thanks for helping me narrow that down.
[06:04] <|aaron> i can move the cursor but that about it lol
[06:06] <OerHeks> |aaron, what videocard??
[06:07] <|aaron> oerheks: its an old dell dimension 2350. im not exactly sure, i looked up the tag on their website and it doesnt even tell me. realllly old system. pentium 4
[06:07] <|aaron> to get the install to work i had to boot with nomodeset fb=false
[06:08] <|aaron> nomodeset is in my grub config too but that doesnt seem to help
[06:08] <OerHeks> |aaron, oke, boot again, hold right shift, to enter grub menu, and edit the bootline again with nomodeset only ?
[06:09] <|aaron> oerheks: like remove everything else from the bootline? there was a lot there. the fb=false didnt get added if thats what you mean
[06:10] <|aaron> oerheks: right now it looks like: /vmlinuz-3.10.0-39-generic root=/dev/mapper/my--desktop--vg-root ro nomodeset quiet
[06:11] <Bashing-om> RahulAN: Guys:: I an calling it for this session and going to sleep. Good luck ;
[06:12] <OerHeks> |aaron, i found out it is intel integrated graphics card called 3D Extreme Graphics, old pc from 2003
[06:12] <OerHeks> not sure it is supported
[06:12] <|aaron> ah shoot
[06:13] <|aaron> i was stoked when the install seemed to work :(
[06:14] <|aaron> is there another flavor of linux i might try?
[06:15] <OerHeks> |aaron, lubuntu or xubuntu are the ones i would recommend with such old hardware, maybe someone else who is reading here has an idea??
[06:16] <|aaron> oerheks: so downloading the ubuntu mini.iso and selceting 'lubuntu desktop' isnt the same as if i downloaded lubuntu directly?
[06:16] <OerHeks> |aaron, yes
[06:17] <|aaron> ok cool i will try installing lubuntu directly, and failing that xubuntu
[06:17] <|aaron> really appreciate the help man :)
[06:18] <lapion> hmm.. since my upgrade to utopic I am having problems with a usb 3.0 device attached to a usb3 expresscard
[06:19] <lapion> getting speeds of 11 mb/s or 90 mb/s depending on the quirkyness of the kernel
[06:20] <viejotren> Hi, I woukld like to ask you: is it possible to downgrade from 14.04 to 12.04?
[06:21] <bubbasaures> viejotren, No, but if you have a separate home you can reinstall.
[06:22] <lapion> viejotren, if you did not make a backup than you are in trouble
[06:22] <viejotren> bubba
[06:22] <viejotren> cool, is it possible to downgrade just the kernel?
[06:23] <Charcoalcat> viejotren: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49869/how-to-roll-back-ubuntu-to-a-previous-version The answer on this page is that it's sort of possible but it might work badly or not work.
[06:25] <viejotren> cool, one last: how can I display my hdd partitions from command line?
[06:26] <klys> viejotren, dmesg | grep sd
[06:26] <lapion> sudo fdisk -l
[06:27] <viejotren> sorry, I mean I want to display the mount point as well, I don't remember the name of that file
[06:28] <klys> viejotren, $ /sbin/mount
[06:28] <lapion> df
[06:28] <lapion> or mount
[06:29] <klys> wait, it's /bin/mount iirc.
[06:29] <lapion> klys, /bin is in $PATH
[06:30] <klys> ok
[06:30] <viejotren> cool guys, thanks
[06:37] <lapion> I have booted back to the old kernel (  from trusty) and I am getting speeds in excess of 70MB/s
[06:40] <fmoo> ok, i'm going to play with my boot options.  wish me luck!
[06:42] <lapion> I am having huge problems with kernel 3.16 and usb 3.0
[06:42] <lapion> with aborts and the like..
[06:43] <AceLan> lapion: what's the problem?
[06:44] <lapion> I am dd-ing /dev/zero to a device hooked to a pci-express usb3.0 card
[06:44] <lapion> dd-ing to a file  that is
[06:45] <lapion> and under kernel 3.14 I get speeds in axcess of 80MiB per second..
[06:46] <sacarlson> lapion: I have kernel 3.13 on my 14.04 ubuntu.  I seem to also have problems with some devices that plug into the blue plugs (usb 3.0) when I moved them to the black they seemed to work ok.  so ???
[06:46] <lapion> sacarlson, the black ones are usb 2.0
[06:46] <lapion> and the problems are related to 3.16
[06:47] <sacarlson> lapion: yes I think the blacks are usb 2.0
[06:47] <lapion> on usb 2.0 you will never get 80MB/s writing speeds
[06:47] <lapion> I cannot wait 48 hours to write a 1TB file..
[06:47] <sacarlson> lapion: I have never seen 80mB/s so I guess it's never worked.  or I have no devices that support it
[06:49] <sacarlson> lapion: ha ha, well option 2 maybe you can pull the disk out of the usb box and plug it direct to sata conector just to upload it
[06:49] <mikeche1en> any suggestions on how to troubleshoot bluetooth connection errors?
[06:49] <lapion> sacarlson, this is a serious problem please butt out
[06:50] <sacarlson> lapion: oh but you say it worked ok with kernel 3.14?  so just boot from grub and point it to the old kernel or if no longer installed reinstall it
[06:50] <sacarlson> lapion: sorry just looking for a temp work around
[06:51] <lapion> scarlson everybody using utopic will be having this problem do you really want everyone install utopic complaining over here about usb3.0 problems
[06:52] <lapion> what's even worse systemd will not log my problems..
[06:53] <lapion> right now I am getting speeds in excess of 91MB/s ( under 3.13)
[06:54] <sacarlson> lapion: well file a report then
[06:54] <lapion> can anyone else with a usb 3.0 device and a usb 3.0 prot verify this problem..
[06:55] <sacarlson> lapion: I would assume my gopro3 would have usb 3.0, with that I might be able to verify but I would have to verify to be sure.
[06:56] <lapion> sacarlson, you could check with a utopic live system if you do not have utopic installed on said sysstem
[06:57] <Xano> I get "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list" when running "apt-get build-dep", even though sources.list is loaded with repos. What could cause this?
[06:57] <Xano> (Sorry if this was a repost. My connection just dropped)
[06:58] <sacarlson> Xano: not sure but did you try sudo apt-get update ?
[07:02] <Xano> sacarlson: That wasn't in my Ansible playbook. build-dep now seems to work after apt-get update.
[07:02] <Xano> Thanks!
[07:02] <Xano> That was a rather cryptic error message...
[07:03] <sacarlson> Xano: ya don't recall seeing that one but I haven't used build-deb in some time so....
[07:03] <Xano> sacarlson: All I could find online was that the error was caused by missing repos in sources.list. I had a bunch of default repos in there, so that could never have been it
[07:04] <lapion> sacarlson, I am currently booted in the "trysty" kernel becuase of this problem so I cannot create a report before I have finished working out an unrelated problem.
[07:04] <sacarlson> Xano:  ya I was expecting to see more errors but something we could isolate with update
[07:04] <lapion> "Trusty"
[07:05] <lapion> in this case my previous kernel is literally and figuratively my (")trusty(") kernel
[07:07] <sacarlson> lapion: serious problem please butt out... got ya, understood will do
[07:09] <lapion> sorry sacarlson early morning jitters..
[07:11]  * lapion humbly bows to sacarlson and asks for his forgiveness while he looks for the coffee machine..
[07:13] <lama2p0> anyone around that can help me undo the damage from trying to get nvidia driver to work?.....
[07:14] <sacarlson> lama2p0: just to get it to display anything?  you might just move the xorg.conf file and reboot if that the case
[07:15] <hateball> lama2p0: It helps knowing what "the damage" is, and how you went about fiddling with the driver. If you blacklisted other modules needed for instance
[07:16] <lama2p0> yes, manual install.
[07:17] <lama2p0> my access from liveusb seems to be read only..
[07:17] <lama2p0> I also altered the xorg.conf.
[07:19] <sacarlson> lama2p0: when the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not present it should default back to what it used at install if that ever worked that is
[07:20] <sacarlson> lama2p0: then you can attempt other methods to install nvidia drivers.  I recall having to try several back in the day to find the version that worked for me
[07:22] <lama2p0> how do I unblacklist nouveau? the nvidia install added a blacklist location in addition to the one I made..
[07:23] <sacarlson> lama2p0: oh wow you did a number on it then.  the blacklist is in /etc/??  I'll have to look
[07:24] <fmoo> yaaay, i'm back!
[07:24] <fmoo> ok, so for whatever reason the splash screen is/was busted
[07:24] <fmoo> removing that from the config let me in
[07:24] <fmoo> the other screwy thing was that ubuntu doesn't seem to ship any nvidia drivers that are compatible with the nvidia GTX 970
[07:25] <fmoo> and the fallback to nouveau wasn't working either
[07:25] <lama2p0> yeah, it was bad.. had to start via liveusb and chroot.. lol. it was crashing on boot, couldn't even get into another terminal.
[07:25] <sacarlson> lama2p0: you would have modified one of the many files in /etc/modprobe.d  in one of the files that start with black*
[07:26] <lama2p0> I believe the install file did two separate files, and I THINK they were different locations?
[07:26] <sacarlson> lama2p0: wonderfull
[07:27] <fmoo> ok, VPN still works.  yay.  Anyone I can talk to about getting updated nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[07:27] <sacarlson> lama2p0: well sort the files by date maybe it will give a clue where to start to look or grep nouv
[07:28] <lama2p0> how can I grep that?
[07:29] <sacarlson> lama2p0: cd to /etc/modprobe.d ; grep nouv
[07:29] <daftykins> fmoo: which driver versions have you tried? the 332?
[07:29] <lama2p0> seems to be taking its time..
[07:30] <sacarlson> lama2p0: maybe oops you have to add grep nouv *
[07:30] <lama2p0> still
[07:30] <fmoo> daftykins: yeah,
[07:30] <hateball> fmoo: The only way is by either installing manually from nvidia or by using a PPA, until 15.04 ships with an updated driver
[07:31] <daftykins> ^
[07:31] <fmoo> hateball: yeah, that was pretty tricky to do without a working Xserver
[07:31] <sacarlson> lama2p0: did you cd  /etc/modprobe.d  ;  ??
[07:31] <fmoo> since nvidia has some rules in the LB to 403's lynx by default
[07:31] <lama2p0> yes
[07:31] <fmoo> hateball: should fallback to nouveau be working?  Because it wasn't happening for me.
[07:32] <sacarlson> lama2p0: try grep usb *  ;
[07:32] <hateball> fmoo: I doubt it with a 970
[07:32] <daftykins> fmoo: try booting with nomodeset to download them
[07:32] <daftykins> !nomodeset | fmoo
[07:32] <sacarlson> lama2p0: just to see if grep is working you should see about 10 lines that have usb in them from modprobe.d
[07:33] <lama2p0> ohhhh, a space before *
[07:33] <sacarlson> lama2p0: yup
[07:33] <fmoo> haha ok.  I'll try nomodeset next
[07:34] <lama2p0> k.found a blacklist and modeset:0 for nouveau in an nvidia file.. rm'd it..
[07:35] <sacarlson> lama2p0: cool so at least you are back to step 1 ha ha
[07:36] <lama2p0> nope.. looks like I'm not lol
[07:36] <lama2p0> x doesn't start on boot
[07:36] <sacarlson> lama2p0: blackscreen?   maybe nomodeset
[07:37] <lama2p0> hmm... idk where that would be?
[07:37] <sacarlson> lama2p0: is it black screen or not?
[07:37] <daftykins> nomodeset is a kernel boot parameter
[07:37] <daftykins> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if it's starting but failing...
[07:38] <lama2p0> well it has the decrypt screen frozen
[07:38] <daftykins> otherwise, log in at TTY1 and start lightdm
[07:39] <sacarlson> lama2p0: so can you even got to a non graphic login?  if so daftykins idea sounds good
[07:39] <lama2p0> gdm is already running
[07:39] <lama2p0> yes I can go to other term AMD login
[07:40] <lama2p0> 5 errors
[07:41] <lama2p0> Intel: failed to load module "dri3" (module does not exist, 0)
[07:41] <daftykins> lama2p0: can you "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[07:43] <lama2p0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8958702/
[07:44] <WXZ> compiz seems to crash my computer often
[07:44] <WXZ> how can I change the default window manager?
[07:44] <lama2p0> useful tool.. saves trouble of typing on a tablet. lol
[07:45] <daftykins> lama2p0: so you appear to have a displayport screen connected to an intel adapter?
[07:45] <lama2p0> ? physically?
[07:46] <lama2p0> I'm on a laptop.
[07:46] <lama2p0> hybrid graphics, Intel/nvidia.
[07:47] <daftykins> lama2p0: nvidia optimus? yeah that much seems apparent, i wonder where X is getting displayport from 0o can you "lspci | pastebinit" ?
[07:47] <lama2p0> yes optimus
[07:48] <lama2p0> 8958824
[07:48] <daftykins> oh a GTX 870M, mmk
[07:48] <lama2p0> yeap
[07:49] <daftykins> lama2p0: can you check for the existence of a xorg.conf either in /etc/X11 or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?
[07:50] <lama2p0> neither
[07:52] <daftykins> lama2p0: is this a non-unity spin of ubuntu you have on? curious as to why you mentioned GDM
[07:52] <lama2p0> UbuntuGnome
[07:53] <daftykins> lama2p0: looks like you still have an nvidia driver installed, you might need to remove that assuming you didn't attempt a bumblebee / nvidia prime config
[07:54] <lama2p0> I did have it working with bumblebee, but there were xorg crashes and I purged them.. in trying to get nvidia without bumblebee I ended up making this mess lol
[07:55] <lama2p0> errors caused by bumblebeed
[07:55] <daftykins> oh dear :D
[07:55] <sacarlson> daftykins: lama2p0 also maybe  lsmod |pastebin  to see what finnaly gets loaded
[07:55] <daftykins> have you run a purge bumble* and run the nvidia uninstaller too?
[07:55] <daftykins> sacarlson: well X's log shows - [    30.678] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  340.58  Fri Oct 31 16:48:52 PDT 2014
[07:55] <hateball> I'd purge all nvidia packages, and apt-get --reinstall nvidia-prime. But I havent played with hybrid stuff in some time, so
[07:56] <lama2p0> yes they should both be purged. first ran nvidia unintall
[07:56] <sacarlson> daftykins: ok so I don't think a secound driver will load if that loads first
[07:57] <sacarlson> daftykins: oh and I assumed that was from an early boot not the last one
[07:57] <daftykins> lama2p0: i think you should stop gdm and give it another go, there's definitely evidence of the nvidia 340 being active
[07:57] <lama2p0> another go?
[07:57] <lama2p0> startx?? or give what another go?
[07:57] <Svetlana> "give it another go" = "try again"
[07:59] <daftykins> lama2p0: never use startx, 'sudo service gdm stop' then try the nvidia uninstaller again
[07:59] <lama2p0> kk
[07:59] <adrian_1908> If i'm in a terminal an there's a page of text with "more" at the bottom (e.g. manpages, license agreements), is there a way I can scroll directly to the end of said text?
[07:59] <daftykins> and confirm the bumblebee purge
[08:00] <daftykins> ctrl+end? dunno
[08:00] <Lope> I'm boycotting Ubuntu when it starts using systemd. Your distro will destroy the greatness of linux, so what's the point in using it? http://boycottsystemd.org/
[08:00] <mikeche1en> Lope: i'm not sure here is the best place for that feedback
[08:01] <daftykins> Lope: the idea stems from debian i'm sure, go annoy them with your opinions
[08:01] <adrian_1908> daftykins, I think that works. I'll try it on a couple things to verify. thanks.
[08:02] <lama2p0> ran uninstall and bumblebee is indeed purged.
[08:04] <daftykins> lama2p0: try starting gdm again, see what it does
[08:05] <Lope> well ubuntu made it's own decision to use upstart. so ubuntu can continue using upstart?
[08:05] <nusr> i want to move a python style folder that i downloaded to matplotlib in python but i can't find where python is on ubuntu
[08:05] <WXZ> how can I change the default window manager to metacity?
[08:05] <nusr> how can i locate the python folder in natutilus?
[08:05] <lama2p0> what's command to start gdm?
[08:06] <nusr> nautilus
[08:06] <Svetlana> lama2p0: sudo service gdm start
[08:06] <lama2p0> it hangs
[08:08] <sacarlson> Lope: you me and ubuntu are free to do as they wish, as why they created open source. so anyone is free to branch at any time as I like your new branch name of lopelinux
[08:09] <daftykins> nusr: why nautilus? open the terminal then run "which python" ?
[08:10] <nusr> nusr: thanks daftykins. but i have problems moving files with terminal..it does not work for some reason...so i have to use nautilus..how can i view /usr folder? i tried viewing hidden files but can't see
[08:10] <nusr> oops
[08:10] <nusr> daftykins:
[08:10] <daftykins> ctrl+H
[08:11] <sacarlson> nusr: you might be able to right click on the folder and select open as admin to view and edit files in any folder
[08:12] <midrian> hi everyone
[08:12] <lama2p0> no more suggestions? x.x
[08:12] <midrian> can anybody perhaps help me... i am at my wits end
[08:12] <midrian> somewhere along the line my nfs broke
[08:13] <midrian> and i can reinstall it
[08:13] <midrian> cant even
[08:13] <sacarlson> lama2p0: with a list from lsmod if we see that nvidia's driver is indeed loading maybe we could blacklist it
[08:13] <Charcoalcat> nusr: What "doesn't work" about it? Like, does it give you an error message, or does it silently fail? What are you typing in to try and move things?
[08:13] <midrian> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nfs-common : Depends: libtirpc1 but it is not going to be installed               Depends: rpcbind (>= 0.2.0-6ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:13] <midrian> is what i get when trying to do a apt-get install nfs-common
[08:13] <Charcoalcat> nusr: Also, try "sudo nautilus /usr".
[08:14] <midrian> i have googled for everything that i can think of and lo luck
[08:14] <nusr> Charcoalcat: this was about 2 weeks ago. needed to move files from one partition to another with terminal but couldn't.
[08:14] <sacarlson> midrian: first did you try sudo apt-get update ?
[08:14] <midrian> yup
[08:14] <midrian> repeatedly
[08:14] <hateball> Charcoalcat, nusr: It's not a very grand idea to run GUI apps using sudo
[08:15] <lama2p0> paste.ubuntu.com/8959288
[08:15] <midrian> purged, cleaned, updated, upgraded, dist-upgraded
[08:15] <Charcoalcat> hateball: Oh, sorry, then! How come?
[08:15] <Svetlana> didn't they change it recently, hateball? (merge gksu into sudo)
[08:15] <sacarlson> midrian: might you be running some no longer supported version of ubuntu??
[08:15] <daftykins> Charcoalcat: it breaks things.
[08:15] <hateball> Charcoalcat: It'll mess up permissions sooner or later
[08:15] <Flannel> midrian: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:15] <hateball> Svetlana: I am unaware of such a change, but running gksu would be OK indeed
[08:15] <hateball> Charcoalcat: ^
[08:16] <daftykins> lama2p0: if it hung, can you share the Xorg.0.log again? latest version of it.
[08:16] <hateball> it might be there's a hook for polkit
[08:16] <midrian> 14.04, but it used to be 12.04 which i dist-upgraded months back and everything was fine
[08:16] <Charcoalcat> daftykins/hateball: Fair enough.
[08:16] <Flannel> midrian: Can you please pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy nfs-common rpcbind libtirpc1`
[08:17] <Flannel> !paste | midrian
[08:17] <gtristan> Not sure where to ask this, I have a problem that is hard to say where it's originating from, but I am running an Ubuntu 12.04 system so this might be a good starting point: Basically, I am a developer and I do relocated builds a lot, I just compiled the latest SQLite 3.8.7.1 and installed into /opt/devel/bin (with the --libdir in /opt/devel/lib64)... when I type `which sqlite3` it shows the appropriate /opt/devel/bin/sqlite3... when I type ldd `whic
[08:17] <gtristan> h sqlite3` it shows that it links the appropriate library
[08:17] <lama2p0> paste.ubuntu.com/8959316
[08:18] <gtristan> when I type simply 'sqlite3', I get the following error:
[08:18] <gtristan> SQLite header and source version mismatch
[08:18] <gtristan> 2014-10-29 13:59:56 3b7b72c4685aa5cf5e675c2c47ebec10d9704221
[08:18] <gtristan> 2011-11-01 00:52:41 c7c6050ef060877ebe77b41d959e9df13f8c9b5e
[08:18] <midrian> thanks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8959317/
[08:18] <sacarlson> midrian: those packages install fine on my 14.04 so I would now try change your repository to another mirror site
[08:18] <gtristan> And when I launch /opt/devel/bin/sqlite3... I don't get the error
[08:18] <Flannel> midrian: can you also please pastebin the entire error? I suspect maybe those two packages weren't the only ones (or I guess, IF they weren't, pastebin the whole thing)
[08:19] <midrian> Flannel , http://paste.ubuntu.com/8959317/
[08:19] <gtristan> so for some... really odd reason... `which sqlite3` tells me that I have the correct thing in my PATH, but actually launching the thing... the shell chooses the wrong one, even though it's in my PATH
[08:19] <midrian> i must say i think my repos are most likely a bit confused
[08:19] <gtristan> any idea what could be causing that ?
[08:19] <gtristan> perhaps the shell is doing some evil binary caching behind my back ?
[08:19] <Flannel> midrian: It's a report of what is in the repos and what you have installed, yes.
[08:20] <gtristan> ah, indeed... starting a new shell fixes it !
[08:20] <gtristan> so weird
[08:20] <daftykins> lama2p0: try a nomodeset boot, then
[08:20] <sacarlson> midrian: I don't see errors in that from that it looks like they are already installed
[08:20] <Flannel> midrian: Alright, can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get install libtircp1 rpcbind nfs-common`
[08:20] <Flannel> sacarlson: No, theyre not installed.
[08:20] <sacarlson> Flannel: midrian thanks for the correction
[08:21] <midrian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8959391/
[08:21] <sacarlson> midrian: then I would try my first suggestion
[08:21] <midrian> presume you mean libtirpc1 not libtircp1
[08:21] <midrian>  :)
[08:22] <lama2p0> boots to black screen with nomodeset
[08:22] <midrian> full error at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8959403/
[08:23] <Flannel> midrian: Yeah, I was close!  Ok, so, I guess now: `apt-cache policy libc6 libnfsidmap2 openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless`  I don't even know where this jdk stuff is coming from.
[08:23] <daftykins> lama2p0: i'm starting to think your system is too new to work with ubuntu properly
[08:24] <daftykins> lama2p0: your only likely chance is to find a guide helping to install nvidia drivers with bumblebee, for a version that supports your 970m
[08:24] <midrian> flannel: thanks for the help : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8959433/
[08:25] <sacarlson> Flannel: might try apt-get -f install ;  and see what comes of that
[08:25] <lama2p0> 870
[08:25] <midrian> tried already... will run again
[08:25] <Flannel> midrian: Did this accidentally go to utopic or something for a while?  your libc6 is looking too new.
[08:25] <lama2p0> when I used bumblebee, it was giving xorg errors
[08:25] <midrian> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:26] <knobber> Hi there, I have a question which I haven't been able to really find quite the right solution for... I'm running Ubuntu in a VM, and want to make it all a bit snappier. I don't need any of the UI, e.g. the taskbar, search functionality, etc, and I'd just like to have my session open up to an instance of Terminal without any of the GUI stuff going on in the background. What would be the best way to go about this?
[08:26] <daftykins> lama2p0: yeah but you were trying to use a manually downloaded driver from nvidia's site right? you can't do that afaiui
[08:26] <midrian> it could be that it is too new
[08:26] <nusr> knobber: server and ssh into it
[08:26] <midrian> any idea how to install a older version?
[08:26] <Flannel> midrian: (hint: it is) but where did you get that version?
[08:26] <midrian> uhmmm not sure
[08:27] <nusr> lols. giving advice when i can't even find /usr..sorry
[08:27] <lama2p0> no, before that. I tried manually install without bumblebee as result.
[08:27] <midrian> let me look at my repos quick
[08:27] <midrian> had a couple of custom repos for... x2go, steam and ntop
[08:27] <knobber> nusr: that's one solution, but I like working from the VM and specifically Ubuntu's terminal
[08:27] <midrian> direct from the developers
[08:28] <Flannel> midrian: Well, one of them either temporarily brought in a newer version of libc6, or a repository you had, and no longer have, brought in a version of libc6.
[08:28] <midrian> and handbrake   disabled them some time back
[08:28] <Flannel> midrian: It's close to the utopic version, if that helps.
[08:29] <midrian> suggesting i reenable them or try and go back to a older version
[08:29] <midrian> ?
[08:29] <daftykins> lama2p0: and the live session works fine you say?
[08:29] <sb1980ma> Hi! I'm using ubuntu on Lenevo W540 with nvidia. Which is the better driver for normal usage(no gaming)? Xorg or Nvidia?
[08:29] <lama2p0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252322
[08:29] <lama2p0> yes I can run a liveusb fine
[08:29] <daftykins> lama2p0: for future reference it looks like 870M support was added in nvidia' 337.12 driver
[08:29] <Flannel> midrian: My suggestion, assuming you want to stay on 14.04, is to roll it back.  However it's important if you can remember how you got that package, because if a non-trivial number of your packages are newer, it's going to be a pain rolling them back.
[08:31] <midrian> i backed up all the old repos, i seem to have quite a couple of other ones as well which i dont use anymore, solaar, grub-customizer, myway, vlc, compholio, linrunner, simplescreenrecorder, videolan
[08:31] <midrian> will make a backup, then re-enable them, and test again
[08:32] <midrian> thanks Flannel, you are a lifesaver
[08:33] <Flannel> midrian: If it's more than just one or two packages (and maybe as a matter of course), you'll want to (temporarily) add some apt preferences to downgrade to 14.04.  (Priority over 1000).  See https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences for lots of info (and the man pages, etc, etc)
[08:33] <polk> is there any reason why ubuntu would make my laptop fan pulsate on/off/ on /off on/off constantly ? running 14.10 , runs fine, just triggers my laptop fan to go on and off lol
[08:34] <Flannel> midrian: This is, of course, temporarily.  Add the preferences, do a dist-upgrade (which will downgrade you, ALL of you, including third party repos, you may need to get more fancy if you want to keep some/any of them during the downgrade) then remove the preferences once you're done, etc.
[08:34] <gtristan> fwiw, the issue I mentioned above is due to the builtin 'hash' functionality in bash, in case anyone cares to know :)
[08:34] <midrian> thanks again
[08:34] <midrian> will read up on it
[08:35] <daftykins> lama2p0: yeah in your previous attempt your nvidia driver with bumblebee wasn't new enough for the 870m i think. so try and find a guide for installing nvidia with bumblebee using a driver v337.12+
[08:35] <gtristan> lots of traffic here, I'll step out now :D
[08:35] <daftykins> lama2p0: maybe you should start with a clean install also, to get a working desktop once again
[08:36] <lama2p0> I see. I thought 331 supported 870m
[08:36] <Flannel> midrian: good luck :)
[08:37] <midrian> thanks :)
[08:53] <somnium> I am thinking about upgrading from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS is there anyway to sandbox it and test the upgrade first?
[08:53] <daftykins> server i hope?
[08:53] <somnium> yes
[08:53] <daftykins> is it a production system of some kind?
[08:54] <daftykins> VPS or local physical box?
[08:54] <Rafasx> trying to install lts14 to my windows7 laptop. how do i remove windows partitions
[08:54] <somnium> physical box, production system
[08:54] <daftykins> Rafasx: it'll ask in the installer.
[08:54] <somnium> there for the sandbox part
[08:54] <somnium> and rollback question...hehe
[08:55] <somnium> the ultimate way would be a snapshot of the server then do the test upgrade
[08:55] <daftykins> somnium: well rollback is definitely an impossibility, if it has downtime i'd image it up to a backup then test upgrade
[08:55] <daftykins> if you were really cunning you might be able to image up and boot in a VM
[08:56] <introom> hi
[08:56] <somnium> aaa right....
[08:56] <introom> is there any pager that supports key mapping ?
[08:57] <introom> I found everytime 'man program' so time consuming, e.g., I have to type the regex in page every lookup, '^\s*-PARAM '
[08:57] <Rafasx> in windows7 i have 3 logical drives, the system reserve and two other logical for the window system and data drive, how can i make it into one drive, seen two logical drives in ubuntu during installation
[08:59] <introom> aha. there seems a 'man 1 lesskey'
[09:00] <sacarlson> Rafasx: you don't want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu?
[09:00] <midrian> Flannel: pinned trusty-updates with priority 1400 and main with 1500, doing a dist-upgrade atm http://paste.ubuntu.com/8959961/
[09:00] <Rafasx> nope. i want to use ubuntu from now on.... :)
[09:01] <nwe> hello, I have create an pressed.cfg file and put this after my append initrd... url=http://<ip>/preseed.cfg but my testmachine wont take the file any idea what I have miss?
[09:02] <sacarlson> Rafasx: then at install time just choose to use entire drive on the disk that has windows 7 system installed.   The other disks you can mount or reformat as you desire after install.  or you can setup some custom partitions if you like
[09:03] <sacarlson> Rafasx: you might want to move your personal files off the windows system disk to one of the disks that you choose to not reformat
[09:04] <Rafasx> i already backup my files into my external storage
[09:05] <sacarlson> Rafasx: sounds good then just install to one disk should be fine.  the defaults should work
[09:05] <midrian> allow me to be a little bit extatic :) WHOHOO!!!.... thanks Flannel it worked :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8960079/
[09:05] <midrian> You the Bomb :)
[09:06] <Flannel> midrian: Glad you got it sorted.
[09:06] <sacarlson> midrian: so pulling back of version of libc6  fixed it?
[09:07] <Rafasx> ok thanks sacarlson, be back later... need to run for
[09:09] <lancelot_of> hi there
[09:09] <lancelot_of> my wifi connection is still so slow that i cannot work on remote servers. I've last kernel version and firmware for my ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS. Please any help?
[09:10] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: too slow for ssh in text mode?
[09:11] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, for ssh -X
[09:11] <lancelot_of> and the wifi network i connect to is very high speed
[09:12] <midrian> :) so happy been strugling with this for a week or 2 (on and off though)
[09:12] <midrian> downgrading libc solved it
[09:12] <lancelot_of> it seems to me to be a strictly ubuntu related issue, because on debian i was able to use the same wifi in a very good way
[09:13] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: ya graphic X over lan can be slow and over wifi can be slower.  you might detect what proto they connect at,  in the old mode it would be only 10mbs or 1Mb/s that will be slow for grafic X
[09:13] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, ^^
[09:13] <WoonKing> ha
[09:13] <WoonKing> ha
[09:13] <WoonKing> hello everyone
[09:14] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, i've never faced similar trouble on this wifi, only since i used ubuntu 14.04 (indeed also 12.04 was quite fine)
[09:14] <lancelot_of> Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 6b)
[09:14] <WoonKing> just connect
[09:15] <WoonKing> then ok
[09:16] <vak> hi all
[09:16] <WoonKing> hi
[09:16] <vak> how can i find if a package is included in stock ubuntu 14.04 distro?
[09:16] <EriC^^> vak: check the manifest
[09:17] <vak> EriC^^: thx!
[09:17] <EriC^^> releases.ubuntu.com/trusty
[09:18] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: I think the iwlist will show what mode you have succeeded to connect  with N mode or G mode  (fast,  slow mode)
[09:18] <EriC^^> vak: you can also do zcat /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz
[09:18] <EriC^^> it's pretty comprehensive
[09:19] <vak> EriC^^: cool. I used "apt-cache show libjack-jackd2-0" in my case and btw how can i use your link above?
[09:19] <EriC^^> vak: if you have amd64 http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.manifest
[09:20] <vak> EriC^^: thanks, man!
[09:20] <EriC^^> vak: that's the contents of the live system though
[09:20] <EriC^^> so gparted is there, but after installation its not
[09:20] <midrian> sometimes you just have to love ubuntu... user comes to me and asks me to download a 4Gb iso for him urgently and to let him know once it is finished downloading.... wget url; mail user -s "your download is complete" ; mail me -s "download complete"
[09:20] <vak> i see
[09:20] <EriC^^> so the zcat one is better it only has whats there after you install
[09:20] <EriC^^> vak: no problem
[09:21] <vak> funny i noticed that less opens .gz file by me :)
[09:22] <EriC^^> vak: cool never tried that
[09:22] <vak> EriC^^: oh maybe despite the file extension it is just not compressed...
[09:23] <EriC^^> nah i think it's compressed
[09:23] <RahulAN> libc6 (2.19-13) breaks locales (<< 2.19) and is installed    this is what i am getting now
[09:23] <RahulAN> what to do with this??
[09:23] <RahulAN> please help
[09:23] <vak> EriC^^: yep, it is...
[09:24] <sacarlson> RahulAN: sounds like the same problem that midrian had moments ago
[09:24] <RahulAN> sacarlson, what was the solution for it??
[09:26] <sacarlson> rohan: downgrading libc solved it... so he said.  I'm not sure you really have the same problem.  his was due to having ppa installed before he did some upgrade
[09:26] <sacarlson> opps RahulAN
[09:26] <RahulAN> sacarlson, so do i downgrade libc
[09:27] <sacarlson> RahulAN: well does that sound like what you did?
[09:28] <Flannel> RahulAN: Are you using Ubuntu?
[09:28] <RahulAN> Flannel, yes
[09:28] <RahulAN> 12.04 version
[09:28] <Flannel> RahulAN: Where did you get 2.19-13?
[09:29] <RahulAN> i downloaded from  server of debian
[09:29] <RahulAN> Flannel, ^^
[09:29] <Flannel> RahulAN: You can't go mixing things like that.
[09:29] <RahulAN> Flannel, Ohkk
[09:29] <RahulAN> so do i remove it? Flannel
[09:30] <Flannel> RahulAN: How did you get it from Debian?
[09:30] <RahulAN> Flannel, i searched for dev package on google
[09:31] <Flannel> RahulAN: and you just downloaded that single deb package?
[09:32] <RahulAN> 'yes i was getting problem with many packages list.. i tried apt-get -f update
[09:32] <Flannel> RahulAN: Did you get that error when trying to install it? (meaning it isn't actually installed yet?)
[09:32] <RahulAN> 'yes i was getting problem with many packages list.. i tried apt-get -f install
[09:32] <RahulAN> yes actualy i was trying to install guake
[09:32] <RahulAN> but got errors
[09:32] <Flannel> RahulAN: Alright, if you haven't actually gotten that new libc6 installed, then you should be OK, you don't need to do anything (other than stop trying to install it)
[09:33] <RahulAN> Flannel, So how can i install guake and some other also i want
[09:33] <RahulAN> on each of them i am getting same error
[09:33] <Flannel> RahulAN: You should be able to simply do `sudo apt-get install guake`
[09:34] <RahulAN> https://bpaste.net/show/fbe9020a3feb
[09:34] <RahulAN> Flannel, ^^  this i am getting
[09:35] <Flannel> RahulAN: please pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-i686 locales guake python-vte python-glade2`
[09:35] <JyZyXEL> is it possible to have the /boot files (initrd and kernel) on the EFI System partition?
[09:35] <RahulAN> ok
[09:36] <RahulAN> https://bpaste.net/show/bd1ed6f025f2
[09:36] <RahulAN> Flannel, check this
[09:36] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: why do you want to do that?
[09:37] <JyZyXEL> to simplify the configuration
[09:37] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, what specific command are you referring to?
[09:37] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: just dont make a seperate boot
[09:37] <Flannel> RahulAN: Alright.  You didn't simply install the deb package, you added the debian repository.  You need to first remove that, then you'll need to downgrade those packages that you installed from debian, before you can get anything working again.
[09:37] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: so it is ok to use EFI System partition for all /boot files?
[09:38] <JyZyXEL> so basically mounting the ESP as /boot
[09:38] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: man iwlist
[09:38] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: you're going to mount it as /boot/efi
[09:38] <EriC^^> so i dont know how you could do that
[09:39] <RahulAN> Flannel, how to do this??
[09:39] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: just dont use a seperate boot, you wont run into space issues on /boot too
[09:40] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: example sudo iwlist wlan0 rate ;  will display what mode rates your present driver for your device supports
[09:40] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: then you can only boot with UEFI
[09:40] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: note wlan0 is just an example your may be different
[09:40] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: if you mess with the files, like make the partition boot, and have a directory in it called efi ( then it'd be efi/EFI/ubuntu )
[09:41] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: you could mount it as /boot and maybe it would work, ( you'd have to make an entry in the efibootmgr using the different directory structure
[09:41] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i don't know if you'd run into other stuff though
[09:41] <gdm85> hello
[09:41] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: also to look at what modes (speeds) are available on your AP you can look at the output of sudo iwlist scan ;
[09:41] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i think it should work
[09:41] <lama2p0> how can I take ownership of my user folder in liveusb?
[09:41] <RahulAN> Flannel, How to remove it?? how to remove respiratory ??
[09:42] <RahulAN> Flannel, can it be done by apt-get purge
[09:42] <RahulAN> ??
[09:42] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: I think also sudo iwconfig  should show what mode is set to at time of connect
[09:42] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: hold on though
[09:42] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: how is the fat32 going to hold the permissions for /boot ?
[09:42] <Flannel> RahulAN: You're going to need to create a file /etc/apt/preferences.d/downgrade and fill it with http://paste.ubuntu.com/8960654/
[09:42] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: it probably isn't going to?
[09:43] <JyZyXEL> but does that even matter
[09:43] <Flannel> RahulAN: To remove the repository, you'll need to either modify your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the offending line OR remove it from a file within /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ depending on how you added it.
[09:43] <JyZyXEL> its all for root anyways
[09:43] <RahulAN> Flannel, created file
[09:44] <JyZyXEL> but does grub/the kernel even support having a fat32 /boot
[09:45] <killall> Hello, anyone can recomend a good hdmi capture device?
[09:45] <JyZyXEL> killall: #hardware
[09:45] <RahulAN> Flannel, i added this line deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i dont think the kernel would mind, you're going to add it to the fstab it probably won't even know it's /boot or whatever
[09:45] <Flannel> RahulAN: right, remove that.
[09:45] <RahulAN> Flannel, do i remove this??
[09:46] <RahulAN> Flannel, removed then
[09:46] <killall> JyZyXEL:  hardware wont tell me if it is ubuntu capable ;)
[09:46] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, sudo iwconfig returns:  IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:"eduroam"    Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: 54:78:1A:A1:C0:32 (this is a portion of the whole output)
[09:46] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: yeah, as long as grub can read the initramfs and kernell off the /boot
[09:46] <Flannel> RahulAN: alright, now `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[09:46] <Flannel> RahulAN: And assuming everything goes well, you'll have repaired the problems, and then we just have to remove the infrastructure we used to fix things.
[09:46] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: yeah
[09:47] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: I don't have a wifi device to verify but I don't se 802.11n in the list
[09:47] <RahulAN> Flannel,  libc6 : Recommends: libc6-i686   Breaks: locales (< 2.19) but 2.13+git20120306-3 is installed
[09:47] <RahulAN> Flannel, i am getting this
[09:48] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: if i mount the ESP as /boot, then the kernel and initrd will be at the root of the ESP and all the EFI stuff will still end up going to /boot/efi/... so it should be all good?
[09:48] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, so how to enable n?
[09:48] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: verify it it's supported  with sudo iwlist wlan0 rate
[09:48] <Flannel> RahulAN: What command were you doing to when that error happened?
[09:49] <RahulAN> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:49] <RahulAN> Flannel, updating and upgrading
[09:49] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i think so
[09:49] <JyZyXEL> i wish someone knew for sure :\
[09:49] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, i had disabled it in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlist.conf
[09:49] <JyZyXEL> id hate to start implementing this and find mid-way its impossible
[09:49] <RahulAN> Flannel, updateing is done successfully but a last it gave this error
[09:49] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: disabled what?
[09:49] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, i've removed that line, so i'm trying to rmmod modprobe again
[09:49] <Flannel> RahulAN: alright, lets do it one at a time.  Do the update, then paste `apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-i686 locales`
[09:49] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: you'd just have to modify the efibootmgr to \efi\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi or shimv64.efi
[09:49] <lancelot_of> sacarlson, 11n
[09:50] <RahulAN> Flannel, Ok
[09:50] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: shouldn't all that happen automatically like usually?
[09:51] <RahulAN> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8960767/
[09:51] <sacarlson> lancelot_of: if you had made changes like that it's best tell us before hand so we don't have to figure out what you did.  we have to assume you installed a fresh working system to start
[09:51] <RahulAN> Flannel, update was fine and this is the output
[09:52] <Flannel> RahulAN: Yes, update looks like it worked.  Ok, just for kicks.  Please try (and pastebin) `sudo apt-get install libc6`
[09:52] <Xano> I am building PHP from the source (I need quite a few non-standard extensions), but apparently 14.04 ships with 5.5.9 (which is already a few months old) by default, so that's the one Apache uses. Where would I find/build the PHP5 mod I can load in Apache and that targets my compiled PHP?
[09:52] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i think you have to do this manually
[09:53] <RahulAN> Flannel, https://bpaste.net/show/bb2cb559385b
[09:53] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: if you modify the efi partition to have an initial efi directory
[09:53] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: the installer thinks you're going to install to the partition and will create the ubuntu directory in EFI
[09:54] <EriC^^> you need to have an efi directory in it, so that you can mount it as /boot
[09:54] <EriC^^> /efi/EFI/...
[09:54] <JyZyXEL> oh, sure
[09:54] <EriC^^> so you'll have to install as usual, with no boot partition, then copy the files to the efi partition
[09:55] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: except there is one problem in this, fat32 doesn't have symlinks
[09:55] <EriC^^> and modify it and the efibootmgr
[09:55] <JyZyXEL> so stuff that puts symlinks to /boot would break
[09:55] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: yes and there's it being fat32
[09:56] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: just dont use a seperate /boot
[09:56] <EriC^^> :)
[09:56] <Flannel> RahulAN: alright, `sudo apt-get purge libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libnih+ libc6+`
[09:56] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: if you don't have a /boot, then you are restricted to only using UEFI boot
[09:57] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: what do you mean
[09:57] <RahulAN> Flannel, E: Unable to locate package libnih
[09:57] <Flannel> RahulAN: Oh sorry, that should be `libnih1+`
[09:57] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: if you don't use a seperate /boot how are you restricted to using only uefi?
[09:57] <Flannel> RahulAN: (I forgot the 1)
[09:57] <EriC^^> you mean you want to use this installation with legacy too?
[09:58] <daftykins> JyZyXEL: that's erroneous
[09:58] <RahulAN> Flannel, Errors https://bpaste.net/show/5622b4aa7e52
[09:58] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: well how would grub boot the system if you used normal BIOS boot?
[09:58] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: well you add a bios-boot partition before the EFI one
[09:58] <jotterbot> can anyone link me to a modern website guide for MDADM RAID1 boot with redundant grub installation? 14.04 server
[09:58] <EriC^^> that way you can use it on a uefi system
[09:58] <Flannel> Gah.  You installed all sorts of stuff from debian :(  Alright.  Go ahead and do the `apt-get -f install`
[09:58] <EriC^^> i mean legacy system
[09:59] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it's a 2MB partition so that gpt will work with legacy
[09:59] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: but that is just 1MiB in size and doesn't contain a filesystem?
[09:59] <JyZyXEL> you cannot store kernel and initrd there
[09:59] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it should work with uefi and legacy then
[09:59] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it's not for the kernel
[09:59] <JyZyXEL> its for grubs stage2
[09:59] <EriC^^> it's just so that you can use gpt with legacy
[10:00] <RahulAN> Flannel, it worked successfully
[10:00] <Flannel> RahulAN: Alright, lets just verify: apt-cache policy libc6
[10:00] <RahulAN> Flannel, Previous command also worked fine now
[10:00] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: so how does the bios booted grub know how to get the kernel and initrd off the EFI System partition?
[10:01] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: the stuff aren't in the efi system partition, they are in /boot
[10:01] <Flannel> RahulAN: well, you didn't need to do the previous one if that one worked, heh.  But ok!  What's the apt-cache policy say for libc6?
[10:01] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: the efi partition is what is in /boot/efi
[10:01] <RahulAN> https://bpaste.net/show/0aca41f9a8d7
[10:01] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: but i you just said not to use /boot :D
[10:01] <RahulAN> Flannel, ^^
[10:01] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it's basically /EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi or grubx64.efi
[10:01] <EriC^^> and a grub.cfg file
[10:02] <Flannel> RahulAN: Alright, good.  yes.  Ok, now we just need to remove that file that we added to /etc/apt/preferences.d/, I think we called it /etc/apt/preferences.d/downgrade?
[10:02] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i said not to use a seperate /boot partition
[10:02] <RahulAN> Flannel, ohkk
[10:02] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: you said you wanted to simplify stuff
[10:02] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i meant /boot will be part of "/"
[10:02] <RahulAN> Flannel, Done
[10:02] <RahulAN> Flannel, is it Done now??
[10:02] <RahulAN> :)
[10:03] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: well the grub cannot read stuff from / because its encrypted and lvm'd of course
[10:03] <JyZyXEL> and only the initramfs opens it
[10:03] <Flannel> RahulAN: yes.  Do another update, just to be sure it's cleared out, and then you should be able to install guake
[10:03] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: many people use encrypted installations
[10:03] <RahulAN> Flannel, ohkk
[10:03] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: ok
[10:04] <RahulAN> Flannel, It is perfect
[10:04] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: so make a seperate /boot
[10:04] <JyZyXEL> :D
[10:04] <RahulAN> Flannel, its awsome now
[10:04] <Flannel> RahulAN: Glad you got it sorted out.  Now don't go adding random repositories again ;)
[10:05] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: yeah thats probably the only good solution
[10:05] <RahulAN> Flannel, Yes never and do i need dist-upgrade??
[10:05] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: yes, and a seperate efi
[10:06] <Flannel> RahulAN: You don't need to.  But you probably could.  We actually probably should've done one before removing that one downgrade file, just to make sure we got everything.
[10:06] <RahulAN> yes guake also installed
[10:06] <Flannel> RahulAN: so, lets just be on the safe side.  Re-add that file, do an update, then dist-upgrade (then remove the file)
[10:07] <RahulAN> Flannel, I don't need 14.04, I am afraid if any of the function didn't worked then??
[10:07] <AlexPortable> Can I customize the hotkey which indicator-spotlight uses?
[10:07] <AlexPortable> I want to change the hotkey to winkey instead of winkey+alt+spacebar
[10:07] <Flannel> RahulAN: "dist-upgrade" won't take you to 14.04 (unless you've mucked around with other stuff).  In this case, that that downgrade file, it'll remove any other debian packages (which could cause problems down the road)
[10:08] <RahulAN> Ohk
[10:10] <RahulAN> Flannel, Done.. some packages are installing
[10:13] <cable> nemo...
[10:14] <cable> wake up.
[10:14] <cable> Follow the white rabbit.
[10:16] <bcvery1> I keep losing control of my mouse, the cursor is movable but cannot click anything.  xkill produces the message 'unable to grab cursor' (GNOME-Ubuntu 14.04.1)
[10:24] <Poyraz76>  Pisi Linux doesn t use systemd. Because of this it doens t share your data with anybody. It is reliability and sheer. Use Pisi Linux and be happy!
[10:24] <lolek> Hi everybody
[10:24] <EriC^^> Pisi linux?
[10:24] <EriC^^> nice name
[10:25] <lolek> I've got situation, it seems that all my desktop launchers suddenly stopped working :/ If i execute the command from cmd line it works, but when I db click it nothing happens, any idea if there was some  update that broke this>
[10:26] <EriC^^> explosive diarrhea linux
[10:26] <daftykins> EriC^^: runs well ;)
[10:26] <daftykins> almost... too well
[10:26] <EriC^^> haha
[10:29] <lolek> or if no one knows, under which category I should post a bug for it?
[10:29] <ReScO> hello
[10:30] <ReScO> what can i use to ban known hacking/spam ip's from accessing my server?
[10:30] <ReScO> something like PeerBlock but then rather for servers
[10:30] <daftykins> what services? SSH?
[10:31] <ReScO> any
[10:31] <Ben64> iptables, ufw
[10:31] <ReScO> if the ip is known to be "bad" autoban it in iptables
[10:31] <daftykins> yeah look into blacklisting
[10:34] <sbliven> EriC^^: Hey, you around?
[10:34] <EriC^^> sbliven: yeah, what's up?
[10:35] <sbliven> EriC^^: I'm back to debugging EFI
[10:35] <sbliven> my EFI shell doesn't have a bcfg command
[10:35] <EriC^^> sbliven: ok
[10:35] <sbliven> this is weird, since the shell is version 2.31, which should have it
[10:35] <EriC^^> sbliven: try help
[10:35] <sbliven> I'm thinking of updating my BIOS
[10:35] <sbliven> help works
[10:36] <xhor> what is the name of the "evolution mail" app in ubuntu? in ubuntu software center it shows as installed, but I can't find it in my apps (nothing for 'mail' or 'evol')
[10:36] <EriC^^> any commands that stand out?
[10:36] <xhor> actually looking for evolution calendar
[10:36] <EriC^^> try typing FS0:
[10:37] <sbliven> EriC^^: map -b includes fs0, with the same hash that I have in my /boot/efi/.../grub.cfg
[10:37] <xhor> it's funny that each app has 3 names: the 'software center name', its package name (in apt-get) and the actual name in the installed apps
[10:38] <xhor> any idea what the 'installed app name' is for evolution mail or evolution calendar?
[10:40] <EriC^^> sbliven: ok
[10:41] <sbliven> EriC^^: There's also a guid command, but it has tons of output
[10:42] <sbliven> I don't see any of my disk UUIDs in the list, so I think its just for other peripherals.
[10:43] <EriC^^> sbliven: try FS0:
[10:43] <EriC^^> then ls
[10:43] <sbliven> oh, with the colon?
[10:44] <sbliven> yes, I see my efi partition
[10:44] <EriC^^> ok
[10:44] <sbliven> I can cd to \EFI\ubuntu and I see shimx64.efi
[10:44] <EriC^^> ok
[10:44] <EriC^^> try reset
[10:44] <EriC^^> it should reset the efi stuff
[10:45] <daftykins> sbliven: what brand is this device out of interest?
[10:45] <daftykins> always good to know who's pushing quirky EFIs
[10:45] <sbliven> It's a gigabyte motherboard with Dual UEFI Bios
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !  dual uefi?  that just sounds ... kinky.
[10:46] <sbliven> but the ver command lists American Megatrends as the chip maker
[10:46] <sbliven> yeah, the dual means that it has a backup bios in case you screw something up while reflashing
[10:46] <daftykins> cfhowlett: nah just gigabytes terrible marchitecture of having two BIOS chips for redundancy during flash failures, total waste of $/£/€ if you ask me!
[10:47] <sbliven> EriC^^: no change after reset
[10:48] <EriC^^> sbliven: is the ubuntu entry still there?
[10:48] <sbliven> yes
[10:48] <sbliven> both ubuntu and ubuntu3
[10:48] <EriC^^> i wonder if we can manually boot the .efi file
[10:49] <daftykins> sbliven: if you have updates available i'd think that the #1 port of call for any EFI booting woes, though i haven't been following your issue properly
[10:50] <sbliven> daftykins: it was an update that broke my system
[10:50] <daftykins> oic
[10:53] <EriC^^> sbliven: maybe try to reset the bios?
[10:53] <sbliven> EriC^^: I've tried resetting CMOS
[10:53] <sbliven> I think I'll check for a bios update
[10:54] <EriC^^> sbliven: try to cd to \EFI\ubuntu
[10:54] <EriC^^> and type load shimx64.efi
[10:57] <sbliven> There is a new bios update, but it downloads as a .exe file
[10:58] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:58] <EriC^^> try load shimx64.efi
[10:58] <sbliven> oh, an error!
[10:58] <EriC^^> what's it say?
[10:58] <sbliven> shimx64.efi is not a image
[10:59] <sbliven> Exit status code: Invalid Parameter
[10:59] <EriC^^> try to load grubx64.efi
[10:59] <EriC^^> you did cd before right?
[10:59] <sbliven> yes
[10:59] <sbliven> same error for grubx64.efi
[10:59] <sbliven> theres also a MokManager.efi
[11:03] <sbliven> EriC^^: I tried `hexedit shimx64.efi` and got an error "Read File Failed. Load error"
[11:05] <EriC^^> sbliven: i see
[11:08] <EriC^^> sbliven: try edit grub.cfg
[11:08] <clarkk> in this video, it mentions a feature in unity on ubuntu 12.04 that allows you to search for submenu options of applications via the HUD. I've never seen this. http://youtu.be/SZU9XzJBgVc?t=3m43s
[11:08] <clarkk> can someone explain how to get it?
[11:09] <sbliven> EriC^^: I can edit the file (read and write)
[11:09] <EriC^^> ok
[11:09] <EriC^^> sbliven: is secure boot turned off?
[11:10] <EriC^^> i guess it's not related cause the hexedit isn't working too
[11:10] <sbliven> i don't remember seeing an option for it in bios
[11:11] <kahtahs> clarkk: press alt
[11:11] <sbliven> EriC^^: maybe I should reformat the partition?
[11:12] <EriC^^> sbliven: seems odd
[11:12] <EriC^^> cause we used the other efi partition
[11:12] <EriC^^> and i guess it should work too
[11:12] <EriC^^> you could try if you want
[11:12] <EriC^^> don't know what else we could try
[11:13] <sbliven> yeah, this is so weird
[11:13] <sennn> ubuntu have backdoor
[11:13] <clarkk> kahtahs: Iḿ afraid that doesnt do anything
[11:13] <sennn> i thought
[11:13] <cfhowlett> sennn, what are you talking about?
[11:14] <sennn> cfhowlett, i am talking about backdoor!!!
[11:14] <Fistious> how do i register my name? new here btw
[11:14] <cfhowlett> sennn, your proof??
[11:14] <daftykins> sennn: if you're claiming it has one, you're most likely mistaken
[11:14] <EriC^^> Fistious: /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !nick | Fistious,
[11:14] <Fistious> thanks
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Fistious, happy2help
[11:16] <sennn> maybe
[11:16] <EriC^^> sbliven: secureboot should be in the legacy/uefi selection screen somewhere
[11:16] <EriC^^> sbliven: could you use the other bios?
[11:17] <sbliven> EriC^^: I didn't see anything
[11:17] <sbliven> And you can't just switch between them, afaik
[11:17] <EriC^^> sbliven: i just renamed the shimx64 .efi files
[11:17] <sbliven> i think its an automatic backup option
[11:17] <EriC^^> and doing an apt-get --reinstall
[11:17] <cfhowlett> FistiousIronous, not sure that's an improvement ... :)
[11:17] <EriC^^> to see if that installs the .efi files in the efi partition
[11:18] <EriC^^> ok, it does
[11:18] <EriC^^> i've got new files there now
[11:18] <EriC^^> sbliven: so it's not corrupted files i guess
[11:18] <EriC^^> nor a corrupted filesystem i guess cause we tried 2
[11:19] <sbliven> EriC^^: reinstall grub?
[11:19] <EriC^^> i think it's the bios
[11:19] <EriC^^> cause it can't even load the .efi file first
[11:20] <sbliven> ok, i'll try to find a windows computer to extract the bios update
[11:20] <hateball> sbliven: you can usually just use cabextract or some other GUI tool to extract exes on Ubuntu
[11:23] <sbliven> hateball: I don't see cabextract in apt-get
[11:24] <hateball> sbliven: It's in the universe repository, so you need to enable that
[11:24] <hateball> !info cabextract
[11:26] <sbliven> ah, of course, livecd uses restricted by default
[11:27] <m1dnight_> Guys, I have done something wrong and by consequence I have to readd my ssh keys when i want to ssh to somewhere
[11:27] <m1dnight_> Anyone have an idea what it could be?
[11:27] <m1dnight_> I have to ssh-add ~/.ssh/keyfile before i can ssh
[11:28] <m1dnight_> Anyone have an idea?
[11:33] <sbliven> m1dnight_: what are the permissions on .ssh?
[11:34] <m1dnight_> rw-------  1 christophe christophe 6363 Nov  8 11:51 begijnhofserver
[11:34] <m1dnight_> this is one key that does not work
[11:35] <m1dnight_> So that could be it?
[11:35] <m1dnight_> i'll set the permissions properly, hold on i'll google
[11:35] <Ben64> why don't you have it as id_rsa
[11:36] <BalTun> can anybody help me with phpbrew switch util ? it switches php version only in the console but in sites there is old previouse used version... I already restarted apache2...
[11:37] <Ben64> BalTun: i'm not familiar with phpbrew, where did you get it
[11:39] <BalTun> Ben64: from here: https://github.com/phpbrew/phpbrew
[11:39] <Ben64> BalTun: then you should seek support from the developer
[11:49] <sbliven> EriC^^: I flashed the BIOS, but now my mysterious hardware error is back. It beeps the code for 'keyboard failure' and refuses to display the bios
[11:50] <sbliven> Maybe my motherboard failed, and its just a coincidence that I was doing an update at the same time
[11:50] <sbliven> this morning i fixed the error by resetting CMOS, but that's not fixing it now
[11:51] <Ben64> sbliven: you should head to ##hardware for hardware support
[11:53] <sbliven> And now it's booting again, so the BIOS flash was successful
[11:54] <zmaj> hi
[11:54] <zmaj> I have a problem with creating debian packages
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !packaging | zmaj
[11:55] <zmaj> I tried that...
[11:56] <eeb3> Erm. Just was using Clonezilla (livecd) to try and do data recovery (Disk to IMG) and after leting it do its thing for a few hours, just got a screen with 'Kernel Panic'. Being relative phebian to linux, I assume that we've reached a BSOD equivencallcy?
[11:56] <zmaj> that seems more like a tutorial for someone who wants to be a packager.I just made a very very simple app and want to release it.
[12:04] <zmaj> debian compiling is too complicated :(
[12:05] <cfhowlett> zmaj, it's not for everyone
[12:05] <bugtraq> buenos dias
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !es | bugtraq
[12:05] <zmaj> yeah but what now?
[12:06] <zmaj> I tried creating a .click package in the ubuntu sdk but in the publish tab I don't have the "click" column
[12:06] <cfhowlett> zmaj, you said it's too complicated.  learn how to package, hand it over to someone who can package or forget about packaging.
[12:07] <zmaj> where can I find someone who is willing to package?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> zmaj, ##linux or #ubuntu-developers ??
[12:07] <bazhang> !packaging | zmaj
[12:08] <sacarlson> zmaj: I've made a simple package with no compile.  I published it if you want to see
[12:08] <nwe> any idea whats can be wrong with thi.. I have added preseed/url=http://<ip>/preseed.cfg but when the installer start I get the normal installation.. looks like it doesnt get my preseed file..
[12:16] <nusr> when i do a whereis matplotlib i get /usr/share/matplotlib but matplotlib is also found in /lib/pymodules/matplotlib which is the folder to copy the python styles to..any idea why only /share/matplotlib shows?
[12:17] <sacarlson> nusr: I think whereis only looks in path that is set to execute in env
[12:18] <nusr> sacarlson: ok thank you
[12:18] <sacarlson> nusr: I must be wrong since I don't think usr/share/matplotlib would normaly be in that path unless you added it
[12:19] <sacarlson> nusr: try echo $PATH
[12:20] <nusr> sacarlson:  i get /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[12:21] <sacarlson> nusr: then from that I was wrong
[12:22] <nusr> sacarlson: strange becos i have installed a whole bunch of dependencies but only matplotlib is there..the rest are in /pymodules
[12:23] <sacarlson> nusr: I think there are also other envirnmental veribles like lib but I forget how to list them
[12:24] <nusr> sacarlson: ok no problem. on an unrelated note..rosetta is about to land on a comet...isn't that powered by linux/unix? linux on a comet is a real thing
[12:24] <sacarlson> nusr: ah maybe try printenv
[12:27] <nusr> sacarlson: printenv doesn't show different paths than $PATH..
[12:27] <nusr> sacarlson: i'll check another system where i have a similar set up. see if it is the same. maybe it's just how matplotlib installs
[12:28] <Guest52175> Hi..
[12:29] <sacarlson> nusr: on my system /usr/share is in XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/default:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share/mdm/
[12:30] <nusr> sacarlson: XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/ubuntu:/usr/share/gnome:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/
[12:32] <guest12312> Why can't I chmod 777 to a folder on a usb stick
[12:32] <guest12312> but if i do it on the PC it works fine
[12:32] <sacarlson> nusr: but a bit more research shows that whereis  attempts to locate the desired program  in  a
[12:32] <sacarlson>        list of standard Linux places that are hard coded.  I never knew that
[12:32] <guest12312> the command goes through but nothing changes in the permissions
[12:33] <nusr> sacarlson: cool..good to know
[12:34] <sacarlson> guest12312  the stick is probly formated with fat32 that has no privs in that format type
[12:34] <nusr> http://sci.esa.int/where_is_rosetta/    if anyone cares about mankinds first attempt to land on a comet which is about to happen you can follow it here...linux/unix on a comet
[12:44] <cybrhuman> it should have been plan9.
[12:45] <Xano> Both users "vagrant" and 'www-data" belong to the "www-data" group, but user I cannot access a particular folder over HTTP even though I made it under user "vagrant". How would I about debugging this?
[12:46] <sacarlson> Xano: maybe an aparmor thing?
[12:46] <bewees> hi
[12:46] <daftykins> Xano: looking at the group permissions
[12:46] <Rashid_f> Hello guys
[12:46] <Rashid_f> I have an question
[12:46] <bewees> In this article there's 'aa-complain', but it's not on my system,why? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor#Put_a_profile_in_complain_mode
[12:47] <Rashid_f> which is the best IRC app for ubuntu ?
[12:47] <Xano> daftykins: The permissions for this folder are set to 777 (don't worry, I'm just playing around with a few things, no prod env). I forgot to share that info
[12:47] <Xano> sacarlson: ^^
[12:47] <bewees> Using ubuntu lts 14.04
[12:47] <sacarlson> Xano: what does ^^ mean??  I was right?
[12:48] <bewees> (I want to put a profile in complaint mode
[12:48] <Rashid_f> which is the best IRC app for ubuntu ?
[12:48] <cybrhuman> sacarlson: ^^ is a smiley, a happy smiley.
[12:48] <Rashid_f> what do you use gyes
[12:48] <Xano> sacarlson: Sorry, that meant "look above, I wanted to tell you this as well" :P
[12:48] <Rashid_f> guys
[12:48] <sacarlson> cybrhuman: ok some help but ??
[12:49] <Xano> sacarlson: daftykins Interestingly I set the folder permissions to 777 recursively, but ls -l reveals that only the owner has write permissions :/
[12:49] <cybrhuman> Xano: then you should only use one ^
[12:49] <daftykins> Xano: pretty terrible practice that :)
[12:49] <bewees> Found it in pkg apparmor-utils
[12:49] <daftykins> Xano: oh sorry, didn't see the first highlight
[12:49] <Xano> daftykins: 777? yeah, just wanted to see if it was the permissions or something else. This is usually set to 644
[12:51] <Xano> sacarlson: daftykins ls-l on the "files" folder gives "drwxr-xr-x 1 vagrant www-data    68 Nov 12 12:33 files"
[12:51] <Xano> Repeated attempts to add write rights to other users  don't work
[12:51] <geirha> Xano: What filesystem is it?
[12:51] <Xano> There is also no output at all
[12:52] <Xano> geirha: Let me check. Whatever is the default for 14.04 within a Vagrant box
[12:52] <daftykins> Xano: chmod g+w /path/*
[12:52] <sacarlson> Xano: maybe it's mounted from some nfs that the user doen't exist on?
[12:53] <Xano> sacarlson: It *is* shared through Vagrant/Virtualbox with my host OS (Mac OS 10.9) that doesn't have the vagrant or www-data users
[12:53] <choki> Does someone know if LXDE has a widget for a folder with a dropdown menu?
[12:54] <sacarlson> Xano: ok add those users with the same user number and same privs then and maybe it will work
[12:56] <sacarlson> Xano: oh but you do see 777 on both sides on vagrant and mac?   still sounds like the problem I had with nfs that confused me when two systems don't share the same users
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:58] <Xano> sacarlson: That might very well be the cause. Looking into that now. I can't just edit the host system too (too complex, plus then the box will no longer be portable)
[13:06] <Xano> sacarlson: I think I will just disable sharing for now. There is always scp/SFTP if I need to transfer files. I will mostly be using this for development and I'll push to online repos anyway
[13:08] <sacarlson> Xano: good idea don't dwell on it when there is another path
[13:08] <Xano> sacarlson: I'd still like to figure it out one day, but I have more important things to dor ight now :)
[13:13] <ebel> packages.ubuntu.com isn't working well for me. Not showing me utopic packages, even when I directly access it http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=utopic&keywords=postgresql-9.4
[13:20] <myrkraverk> Hi all.  I was testing rsyslog wrt log injection and discovered that it leaves DEL (0x7f) raw in the log files (it #oct encodes all other ascii control chars).
[13:20] <myrkraverk> Is that something I should report?
[13:26] <ruukasu> I have a cron job in root's crontab, but cron doesn't actually run it
[13:26] <ruukasu> (cron is running)
[13:28] <sacarlson> ruukasu: maybe show us the line you added to roots crontab
[13:30] <ruukasu> schlitzer: 26 8 * * * bash -c "apt-mirror && /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/clean.sh && date +%B\ %d\ %Y\ -\ %H:%M:%S >> /home/administrator/apt-mirror.log"
[13:31] <ruukasu> (changed 00 11 to 26 8 to test)
[13:33] <sacarlson> ruukasu: is the Schlitzer: also on the line??  if so take it out
[13:34] <sacarlson> ruukasu: oh and is bash -c really needed?
[13:34] <ruukasu> sacarlson: you're joking right?
[13:35] <ruukasu> bash -c might not be needed, but I doubt that's the problem
[13:35] <sacarlson> ruukasu: no just didn't really see any schlitzer here so didn't get it until after I sent it
[13:35] <ruukasu> ah
[13:35] <ruukasu> oh
[13:35] <ruukasu> oh I see
[13:35] <ruukasu> sorry about that
[13:37] <sacarlson> ruukasu: with all the escapes and veribles might be better to put it into a script and have cron run the script
[13:39] <S> hi
[13:39] <S> anybuddy there
[13:39] <ObrienDave> no buddies here
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Guest88226, look at the nicklist :)
[13:40] <manandharsrijan> chat
[13:42] <bewees> can i uninstall apparmor compleltly?
[13:42] <hateball> ruukasu: you havent assigned the cronjob a user, unless the user is "bash"
[13:43] <Guest88226> hi bos
[13:43] <Guest88226> m back
[13:43] <ruukasu> hateball: I thought crontabs were per-user, so `sudo crontab -e` would make any jobs I add run as root?
[13:43] <ruukasu> regardless, it turns out bash -c was the problem :|
[13:44] <Guest88226> i need bash for brute force
[13:44] <hateball> ruukasu: ah right. I wrongly assumed "roots crontab" to be /etc/crontab :)
[13:45] <p50402> Hi
[13:45] <p50402> Need of support setting up a functioning wireless configuration on my new Ubuntu Server 14.04 install.
[13:45] <sacarlson> ruukasu: maybe more like this: 0 4     * * *   apt-mirror      /usr/bin/apt-mirror > /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/cron.log
[13:48] <sacarlson> ruukasu: or if added to root crontab:  0 4  * * *   /usr/bin/apt-mirror > /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/cron.log
[13:48] <akiva-thinkpad> ubuntu online summit to start in 12 minutes; come join ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKU86HGm78
[13:53] <Bafila> hello
[13:54] <cbasingertx> hello
[13:54] <leroygu2> hello my friend
[13:55] <nomic> anyone know of pdf reader that'll let me display 2 pages side by side
[13:55] <nomic> or 3
[13:55] <PenguinAnon> Hmm. On boot, ncmpcpp can't connect to mpd, though mpd is running. However, if I pkill mpd, and restart it, ncmpcpp works fine.
[13:55] <jpds> nomic: Well, evince the default can do that.
[13:55] <PenguinAnon> Is the mpd daemon misconfigured?
[13:56] <PenguinAnon> I suppose "mpd daemon" is a little redundant, lol.
[13:56] <nomic> okular
[13:56] <nomic> i just found
[13:56] <nomic> i don't like evince .. has problems with large pdfs ..can't zoom in or out with keyboard
[14:00] <Delta706> is there a package I can install, to convert a MIDI file
[14:02] <chabo> e4dwltozwmoe5f3z.onion
[14:03] <napoli> ciaoo tutti
[14:04] <sbliven> EriC^^: Reflashing the bios was successful, but it didn't fix the boot problem
[14:04] <sbliven> EriC^^: And as a side effect it removed the EFI shell, so I have even worse debugging capabilities now
[14:06] <sbliven> plus it still refuses to reboot intermittently, which makes it really painful to keep going
[14:06] <blackbuntu> hello niggaz!
[14:06] <blackbuntu> did any one tried blackarch before?
[14:07] <PenguinAnon> It is a good pentesting distro, if that's what you need.
[14:08] <Laurenceb> hi
[14:08] <Laurenceb> can anyone tell me how to install amslatex?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> blackbuntu, racial comments will get you kicked.  review the guidelines
[14:08] <PenguinAnon> ^
[14:08] <yecril71pl> I am unable to copy process properties out of gnome-system-monitor
[14:08] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | blackbuntu
[14:08] <blackbuntu> penguinAnin
[14:09] <blackbuntu> blackarch !
[14:09] <cfhowlett> blackbuntu,  this is ubuntu support - not arch.
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !info amslatex
[14:10] <blackbuntu> ubuntu community/1
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[14:11] <Laurenceb> wtf
[14:11] <Laurenceb> WHAT TO dO?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> lauy
[14:12] <Pici> Laurenceb: texlive-base includes the ams fonts package, if that is what you are looking for.
[14:12] <Laurenceb> i have texlive-latex3
[14:13] <Laurenceb> hmm
[14:13] <Laurenceb> and texlive-base
[14:18] <iirelu> so uh, everything in /etc/udev/ suddenly stopped existing and im not sure why
[14:18] <iirelu> is there any way for me to regenerate all the stuff in it?
[14:22] <p50402> Hello
[14:23] <daftykins> p50402: hi, got a support question?
[14:23] <The> world
[14:23] <the_tricky> hello, guys
[14:24] <p50402> Need help/support with setting up wireless connection on Ubuntu Server 14.04 so that it boots up with the system itself, anyone?
[14:24] <daftykins> p50402: wireless on a server? pretty silly ;)
[14:24] <p50402> *Yes I do.
[14:24] <the_tricky> i have a problem with "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package
[14:24] <p50402> Maby, but thats the option I have
[14:24] <daftykins> the_tricky: give more detail on one line, what've you tried? what's going wrong?
[14:25] <the_tricky> if it is not installed, every time i boot i get an error message
[14:25] <the_tricky> if it is, all the fonts look weird
[14:25] <kukere_> hi geeks...please i need help in resolving this error Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.13 80] Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main nfs-common 1:1.2.0-4ubuntu4.2
[14:25] <the_tricky> they change, i suppose
[14:25] <p50402> I have tried configuring the interfaces so that the server sucessfully connected to my wifi
[14:25] <robairt> anyone have any idea what eruption is?
[14:26] <p50402> I then followed a tutorial so that the network card would start at bootup
[14:26] <p50402> http://askubuntu.com/questions/355939/wifi-connetion-does-not-start-at-boot-at-ubuntu-13-04-server
[14:26] <pbx> robairt, provide lots more context please
[14:27] <robairt> pbx, I think it's a screensaver on a remote session or something. just got in and it was doing 60% of my cpu, but now it's called rubik
[14:27] <the_tricky> anyone to help?
[14:27] <p50402> Maby I should prepare some material on my problem before I ask questions here..
[14:27] <p50402> I'll be back
[14:28] <pbx> p50402, always a great idea.  pastebin links are handy if you have logfiles/errors etc
[14:28] <inerkick> my mobile broadband isn't showing in my ubuntu 14.04 few of the details I already uploaded to launchpad https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/257337 kindly help if you guys faced any issues as such
[14:31] <edong23> [11-12-2014:05:47:38] <tjon> Hi i saw you come online in the channel, do you want to talk?
[14:31] <edong23> wtf?
[14:32] <daftykins> edong23: that user isn't in here, so don't tell us thanks
[14:32] <themonk> can i use python script in DEBIAN/postinst file?
[14:32] <inerkick> hi
[14:33] <inerkick> any ubuntu support team
[14:33] <daftykins> inerkick: just be patient
[14:33] <Xano> Installing mysql-server through CLI shows a 'dialog' with an input for the root password. As I am doing this through Ansible, I want no output at all. I am using apt-get build-dep, but adding -y does not prevent these interactions from happening at all. Any suggestions?
[14:34] <inerkick> hmm daftykins
[14:35] <inerkick> i'm using internet in a shop, and need help so that my modem works, I can't sit all day waiting for help isn't daftykins
[14:36] <daftykins> inerkick: this is a channel of volunteers, i'm sorry that you have this situation but you're not going to get a solution in a timely fashion
[14:37] <iirelu> aha, fixed it by just doing `sudo touch /etc/udev/udev.conf`
[14:37] <operador> operador
[14:37] <operador> exit
[14:39] <daftykins> inerkick: best advice: download and test ubuntu 14.04.1 from a live session (booted from USB) - see if it works there. consider a clean install if so
[14:40] <jamiejackson> hi folks. i've got a service account that i would like to "convert" to an account that can be "su"ed to, so i can test its permissions, etc. how do i do that?
[14:41] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: have you tried su from root?
[14:41] <k1l_> jamiejackson: sudo su testuseraccount
[14:42] <edong23> daftykins: he was when i whois'd    but sorry about that...
[14:43] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: yeah, i have tried "su theuser" but it stays on root
[14:43] <daftykins> edong23: if it happens again, report them in #ubuntu-ops :)
[14:44] <mostafa> hi
[14:44] <inerkick> it was working than it stopped yesterday daftykins
[14:45] <daftykins> inerkick: difference being you upgraded between, or?
[14:45] <hollusion> hello, i have a usb flash drive in read only mode (fat32 i guess) how can i make it writeable?
[14:45] <hollusion> there is no hardware switch to unlock it
[14:45] <inerkick> i upgraded to from1 2 to 14.04
[14:46] <k1l_> hollusion: they go to read-only when the system detects a hardware failure
[14:46] <inerkick> i upgraded to from 12.10 to 14.04 and mobile broadband was working fine few days than it stopped daftykins
[14:46] <k1l_> hollusion: see "dmesg" output
[14:46] <daftykins> inerkick: alright, doesn't change my suggestion
[14:47] <inerkick> if i do clean install i lose all my data and i don't have any external drive to store my data now. that's lot of thing to do daftykins
[14:47] <the_tricky> any help with "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package?
[14:47] <inerkick> thanks for suggestion though daftykins
[14:47] <daftykins> inerkick: no you don't lose all your data
[14:47] <hollusion> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/1HqRqtEy
[14:47] <inerkick> data in sense of few apps
[14:47] <inerkick> skype pidgin and many more i guess
[14:47] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: odd, should work. did you try k1l_'s suggestion?
[14:47] <daftykins> inerkick: plus i'm suggesting to just test it with 14.04.1 first :) you don't have to commit to reinstall, you're just checking whether it even does work in 14.04
[14:48] <inerkick> will try though
[14:48] <anonymous_> hi
[14:48] <Jky> hi, how do I find out if I have a processor suitable to use intel p-state?
[14:48] <inerkick> if it working? daftykins
[14:48] <v0lksman> I have a 12.10 system that I would like to upgrade...it's cli...I run do-release-upgrade and I get an error saying it can't calculate the upgrade.  How do I proceed?
[14:48] <daftykins> inerkick: cross that bridge when you come to it.
[14:48] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: same deal. just stays on root, doesn't switch
[14:49] <inerkick> what you mean daftykins explain
[14:49] <daftykins> inerkick: i mean go test it before asking every other question :P
[14:49] <cybrhuman> odd, what does the user's line in /etc/passwd say?
[14:49] <hollusion> k1l_: that means the drive is broken and i can throw it away?
[14:49] <k1l_> hollusion: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101637/usb-turn-write-protection-off
[14:50] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: odd, what does the user's line in /etc/passwd say?
[14:50] <inerkick> i don't get cross that bridge means so should understand it
[14:50] <mesaboogie1> heya, does anyone want to help me to test my skype?
[14:50] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: railo:x:495:491::/opt/railo:/bin/false
[14:50] <daftykins> inerkick: it's a phrase. i'm sorry i don't teach english
[14:50] <k1l_> jamiejackson: its set to bin/false so no login
[14:50] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: there is the problem, its login shell is set to /bin/false
[14:51] <inerkick> sure
[14:51] <inerkick> thanks
[14:51] <cybrhuman> sudo chsh railo
[14:51] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson:  sudo chsh railo
[14:51] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: how to convert it (at least temporarily)? change to /bin/bash?
[14:52] <cybrhuman> !chsh
[14:52] <cybrhuman> bah, ubottu never know anything I ask about.
[14:53] <hollusion> k1l_: does this mean that the data on it can not be trusted to be complete?
[14:53] <k1l_> hollusion: can you rephrase?
[14:53] <hollusion> i.e. data got corrupted
[14:54] <hollusion> complete as in "not corrupted data"
[14:54] <hollusion> *non corrupt, whatever
[14:54] <k1l_> i dont know. when a drive is that flaky i would not bet on that
[14:56] <smallbig> may I discuss something not ubuntu, but still linux? I really got no idea how to fix it
[14:56] <k1l_> smallbig: ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <smallbig> ok
[14:56] <smallbig> thanks!
[14:59] <n18106> hi.i'm 35 yo from india
[15:00] <daftykins> n18106: that's lovely, but this is a support channel
[15:00] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: thx. changed it to /bin/bash, and it seems to have worked
[15:01] <hollusion> can you suggest a software to create very very simple gantt charts?
[15:01] <hollusion> for charting processes and their calc times
[15:01] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: :) probably a good idea to reset it after testing btw.
[15:07] <nicksloan> is there a way to tell ubuntu not to create a cluster on postgres installation? I already have one created and stored on an EBS volume that I am attaching.
[15:09] <tsa> which works best, VNC or XRDP for remote login to Ubuntu virtual machines?
[15:09] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: i'm working in a vm that i created to emulate the real server, so i'm nice and sandboxed, anyway
[15:09] <Guest17649> Hi guys.
[15:10] <daftykins> Guest17649: got a support question?
[15:10] <k1l_> jamiejackson: you dont need to change to that user to be able to run programs/commands as that user
[15:10] <k1l_> sudo -u USER command       can be used
[15:11] <Soothsayer> Are there any tools with a web-based interface to Manage crons? Looking for recommendations.
[15:11] <TvL2386> Soothsayer, isn't webmin able to do that? Maybe a bit overkill though...
[15:11] <Soothsayer> TvL2386: I have webmin installed in the server.. but honestly its painful
[15:11] <k1l_> dont run webmin :/
[15:12] <Soothsayer> in the table view it truncates the command names.. so i can’t even figure out anymore which cron is for what
[15:12] <daftykins> !webmin
[15:12] <TvL2386> Soothsayer, yeah I think it's overkill and I really don't like it either
[15:12] <daftykins> Soothsayer: ^
[15:12] <k1l_> it will ruin your serverconfigs. therefore it got kicked out of debian and ubuntu repos
[15:12] <UbuntuServer> Hello, someone want to help me setting my Ubuntu Server 14.04 up?
[15:12] <Soothsayer> i don’t use webmin for package management.. just for viewing running processes, managing IP tables and in case of quick visual debugging
[15:12] <daftykins> UbuntuServer: you need to ask a more specific question.
[15:12] <daftykins> Soothsayer: i think you misunderstand the above bot message
[15:13] <k1l_> Soothsayer: it ruins the configfiles there too.
[15:13] <Soothsayer> UbuntuServer: asl ?
[15:13] <jamiejackson> good to know k1l_ , thanks
[15:13] <UbuntuServer> I'm starting from the beggining, @ installation meny atm.
[15:13] <Soothsayer> daftykins: i got it, nevermind, my question is not about webmin.
[15:13] <UbuntuServer> menu*
[15:13] <UbuntuServer> 24, male, Sweden
[15:14] <Soothsayer> UbuntuServer: ok, I was really just joking around :P
[15:14] <UbuntuServer> Hah.
[15:14] <Niels___> Hi My Ubuntu corrupted after upgrading 14.04 to 14.10. A controller is missing and some broken pipes. How can I fix this?
[15:14] <daftykins> UbuntuServer: what's this system for? what kind of hardware is it going on?
[15:16] <UbuntuServer> I'm setting up this system so I hopefully can run my own web-server with some sort of ecommerce sollution on it. LAMP etc.
[15:16] <s00pcan> UbuntuServer: well you can be more than hopeful about it
[15:16] <UbuntuServer> I have tried on my own following tutorials several times with something not working everytime and now wanted to try this approach.
[15:17] <sourcerer> Hello everyone. I've some troubles with my laptop. It seems that cpu frequency is freezed at 756 MHz (and that's pity because it's Core i7 2.7GHz). I'm using ubuntu 14.04; I can't change CPU frequency or governor neither with indicator-cpufreq, nor with cpufreq-set. cat /proc/cpuinfo says "756.000 MHz". cpufreq-info says "current policy: frequency should be within 756 MHz and 756 MHz." How to change this?
[15:17] <linocisco> ubuntu sucks
[15:17] <UbuntuServer> No it does not.
[15:18] <daftykins> sourcerer: open a terminal and run: watch -n 0.1 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz'
[15:18] <linocisco> I tried to solve my printer problem with ubuntu latest desktop 64bit. not fixed yet
[15:18] <daftykins> sourcerer: definitely no value fluctuations whilst you use the system?
[15:19] <sourcerer> daftykins: nope, even when i do make -j 4 and have 100% cpu load
[15:19] <k1l_> linocisco: then tell your printer manufacturer they must support linux.
[15:19] <linocisco> now I left that printer away. in detail, ubuntu 64 bit sucks as there is no always 64 bit drivers from vendors
[15:19] <Niels___> Since upgrade to 14.10 I 'm unable to update...
[15:19] <UbuntuServer> What is an appropriate hostname when setting up and Ubuntu Server on my LAN?
[15:19] <linocisco> most support only 32bit
[15:19] <daftykins> sourcerer: same on a live session booted from USB?
[15:19] <s00pcan> my hp printer works alright with linux
[15:19] <k1l_> linocisco: ubuntu is multiarch.
[15:19] <daftykins> linocisco: this is true of Windows too. pro tip: showing attitude in here won't make anyone want to help you.
[15:19] <k1l_> linocisco: so before you make a fool of yourself just ranting in here you can either get technical support or leave
[15:20] <linocisco> i mean i followed all documentation on ubuntu website for that damn cannon printer and nothing helped me
[15:20] <sourcerer> daftykins: not sure, and can't check yet, sorry :( But I suppose this thing worked a month ago or so
[15:21] <jamiejackson> next question: what's the magic combo to allow group write permission in a (cifs) mount? i have the uid and (a different) gid set in the fstab, but that's not enough, apparently. also the mount point has the proper 775 permissions before mounting, but it turns to 755 after mounting.
[15:21] <daftykins> sourcerer: you could go through your older kernels in case something's a little odd.
[15:21] <sourcerer> daftykins: hmm, sounds like a good idea, thank you
[15:23] <Niels___> Where should I start to fix upgrade errors?
[15:23] <daftykins> Niels___: with removing your PPAs if you didn't
[15:23] <daftykins> Niels___: or with showing us the errors! :D
[15:24] <Niels___> Errors appears while starting up. Can I record them or find them in a log file?
[15:25] <daftykins> Niels___: go nuts with /var/log/
[15:25] <MagicSpud> hello I need help because I think I screwed things up with alacarte
[15:25] <daftykins> MagicSpud: ask a fully detailed question on one line
[15:25] <Niels___> Should I post it :-P
[15:25] <MagicSpud> I was trying to make new shortcuts and started changing them
[15:26] <MagicSpud> via /home/me/.local/share/applications
[15:26] <anang> Hi
[15:26] <MagicSpud> the point is now it is not adding new shortcuts anymore
[15:26] <daftykins> Niels___: it's a folder with lots of log files, you won't be able to pastebin them all ;)
[15:26] <onla> anyone know why on my ubuntu and firefox livestream stream starts buffering and stops playing after some 15 seconds, e.g. this video http://new.livestream.com/esa/cometlanding
[15:26] <onla> on chrome they work
[15:27] <jamiejackson> i think it's umask i'm looking for, so i'm reading about that now.
[15:27] <MagicSpud> is it permitted to change alacarte-made.desktop file name?
[15:27] <mIckeyMaNiky> hello i have a nvidia gt 640 & a sharp aquos 4k.  i cant get ubutnu 14.10 64-bit to display at 4k resolution. anyone know how
[15:28] <sourcerer> daftykins: it's magic. with older kernel it says "current policy: frequency should be within 2.70 GHz and 2.70 GHz. ". Fuuun
[15:28] <daftykins> sourcerer: so then it's locked to the max? :)
[15:28] <Niels___> So I have to pick which log file when I am interested in what happens during starting up ubuntu?
[15:28] <sourcerer> daftykins: eyep :(
[15:29] <sourcerer> daftykins: make -j 4 is faaar better on max frequency though :D
[15:29] <MagicSpud> daftykins, is it allowed to change alacarte-made.desktop files?
[15:29] <daftykins> MagicSpud: i don't have a clue about whatever that software is, nor desktop issues
[15:29] <MagicSpud> daftykins,  I changed from alacarte-made-5.desktop to myapp.desktop
[15:30] <eeb3> Hello, I have a failing HD, which I've tried to used Clonezilla (But ended up Having a Kernal Panic), and tried to use Knoppix, but I keep getting an error of: ._.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent has invalid checksum if I try to mount the drive. At this point not sure what to try.
[15:30] <MagicSpud> daftykins,  ubuntu 14.04 alacarte main menu edit program
[15:30] <MDTech[ZNC]> helo
[15:31] <daftykins> MagicSpud: yeah, telling me more details isn't going to make me an ubuntu desktop user i'm afraid :)
[15:31] <MagicSpud> lol
[15:33] <pbx> eeb3, i'd try fixing the drive with the vendor (Apple) tools
[15:33] <pbx> i.e. Disk Utility, repair volume
[15:33] <MagicSpud> anyway I think I found the solution daftykins : http://askubuntu.com/questions/430230/gnome-menu-broken
[15:33] <eeb3> tried that, gave me 'failed to fix'
[15:33] <daftykins> please stop highlighting me :(
[15:34] <pbx> eeb3, you may be down to Disk Warrior or reformat then.  no ubuntu piece to this that i see though
[15:35] <jamiejackson> what umask (or dmask/fmask) would i need to use in an fstab entry to yield 775 directory and 664 file permissions?
[15:36] <tsa> Does VNC or XRDP work best for remotely connecting to a Ubuntu 12.04 virtual machine?
[15:38] <Niels___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8966411/ here are some boot repair data
[15:39] <qwebirc6949> {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:1111: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:1137: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2157: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2159: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2161: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2163: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `
[15:39] <qwebirc6949> anyone can help??
[15:39] <qwebirc6949> make[1]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/process.o] Error 1 make: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel] Error 2
[15:40] <k1l_> qwebirc6949: what ubuntu is that? what are you tryiing to do? ....
[15:40] <PenguinAnon> qewbirc6949 What are you doing with the Arch kernel?
[15:40] <PenguinAnon> Also, use pastebin.
[15:40] <daftykins> qwebirc6949: by any chance are you doing some course involving patching mackill into something? :P
[15:40] <qwebirc6949> kll: i got these error when i compile the kernel 2.6.11
[15:43] <rberg_> lol thats system architecture, not Arch the distro.
[15:43] <Niels___> How do I remove PPA stuff?
[15:43] <daftykins> !ppa-purge | Niels___
[15:43] <PenguinAnon> rberg_ : You're 100% right. I haven't had enough coffee -__-
[15:43] <k1l_> Niels___: use ppa-purge
[15:44] <pbx> is there a way to bring all of an application's windows forward in the stack? i.e. so if i close one the next window is another window from that app?
[15:44] <pbx> (unity fwiw)
[15:45] <Laibsch> Which one is the "official" bluetooth applet in Trusty? blueman?  I currently have two applets showing and want to get rid of one.
[15:45] <fffggg> Who you ask?
[15:45] <fffggg> ask google
[15:45] <fffggg> here is not anybot to answer to all questions
[15:45] <nicksloan> should I expect ubuntu to always use the same uid and gid for the postgres user and group?
[15:45] <k1l_> !google | fffggg
[15:46] <Laibsch> fffggg: go home
[15:46] <nicksloan> or does it do a next available sort of thing?
[15:46] <fffggg> iam angry becouse i am windows user
[15:46] <Laibsch> your problem
[15:46] <Pici> nicksloan: It should be using the next available.
[15:46] <Laibsch> thanks, k1l
[15:47] <nicksloan> Pici: interesting
[15:47] <fffggg> so annoying peoples answer anything they want like here is someone who must answer
[15:48] <k1l_> Laibsch: i think bluez is the one used as standard. but i am not sure so far
[15:48] <nicksloan> so if my postgres data directory may be detached and reattached to a different installation, I probably ought to create the postgres user and group myself with known IDs
[15:48] <k1l_> fffggg: if you want to stay in here behave according to the guidelines
[15:48] <k1l_> !guidelines > fffggg
[15:49] <fffggg> They must say Hello, in first of asking somethinG
[15:49] <fffggg> ;))
[15:49] <k1l_> Laibsch: for me ps ax shows bluetiithd and indicator-bluetooth
[15:50] <Niels___> How can I get a list with PPA-names?
[15:51] <k1l_> Niels___: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:52] <Laibsch> k1l_: blueman is in universe, so I guess that is not the default
[15:56] <sharp4k> how can i get 4k resolution with nvidia cards?
[15:56] <olspookishmagus> which is this font? http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/themes/xubuntu-theme/xubuntu-fourteen/images/xubuntu-logo.png
[15:56] <sharp4k> anyone know?
[15:56] <daftykins> sharp4k: what card did you say you had again? what cable type is it connected by?
[15:56] <sharp4k> nvidia geforce 640 hdmi cable daftykins
[15:57] <daftykins> sharp4k: HDMI can't carry 4k
[15:57] <sharp4k> we've been doing it with windows
[15:57] <daftykins> at least not in the version that that card will have
[15:57] <daftykins> is it interlaced in Windows?
[15:58] <sharp4k> not sure, might be
[15:58] <olspookishmagus> can displayport support 4k?
[15:58] <daftykins> if it's the right version, sure
[15:58] <sharp4k> so if i interlaced it in ubuntu could i push out 4k?
[15:58] <lancelot_of> hi there
[15:59] <lancelot_of> i'm trying to use skype, but i cannot see anything in video, even if my camera works, indeed who i talk to can see me. With any other video application camera works fine. Any hint/suggestion?
[15:59] <daftykins> sharp4k: possibly. go check that's what's actually happening first
[15:59] <sharp4k> ok let me check brb
[16:05] <Junka> hello, can someone a radio station of electro genre of rhythmbox?
[16:05] <Junka> tell me*
[16:05] <Junka> its one of the defaults
[16:10] <White_Cat> hi
[16:10] <White_Cat> I created a user by using sudo adduser --system --home=/opt/odoo --group odoo
[16:10] <daftykins> ok...
[16:10] <White_Cat> I want to convert that user to a regular unix user, can I do that without deleting it?
[16:10] <White_Cat> it should retain the same home location
[16:11] <pbx> White_Cat, what do you mean by "regular unix user"?
[16:11] <Junka> hello, can someone tell me a radio station of electro genre of rhythmbox?
[16:12] <daftykins> Junka: your question doesn't actually make sense
[16:13] <daftykins> nor is it seemingly ubuntu support 0o
[16:13] <afidegnum> hello good morning all,
[16:13] <afidegnum> please I am stick and stuck
[16:14] <afidegnum> ubuntu is not allowing flash and microphone and camera input
[16:14] <Junka> daftykins, well i need help
[16:14] <daftykins> Junka: right, in finding an internet radio station to *PLAY* in rhythmbox? or?
[16:15] <Junka> daftykins, i lost my radio stations, its ok but i want that one i like
[16:15] <Junka> its not that hard to answer
[16:15] <daftykins> Junka: it is because your english doesn't make sense
[16:16] <Junka> i need the name of a radio station of the app rhythmbox
[16:16] <Junka> it starts with the letter G iirc
[16:16] <Junka> its genre is electro
[16:16] <pbx> Junka, is it here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/331751/rhythmbox-default-radio-stations-missing
[16:17] <Junka> pbx, i have already seen that. It's not, the list got updated in recent versions
[16:18] <pbx> Junka, you can dig here then https://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/tree/
[16:18] <pbx> open source FTW
[16:19] <Junka> pbx, lol thanks
[16:24] <MagicSpud> is there a ubuntu desktop IRC channel?
[16:24] <daftykins> this is it
[16:24] <daftykins> you just have to ask the channel for someone that knows
[16:24] <White_Cat> pbx well basically it doesnt work with WinSCP
[16:24] <White_Cat> it doesnt let me
[16:25] <sdd> hi! boost package seems to be broken in ubuntu 14.04 repo
[16:25] <sdd> posted bug to boost guys and q @ askubuntu
[16:26] <sdd> seems that http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libboost1.55-all-dev/download package is all you can get if not to build boost from source
[16:26] <Junka> pbx, i dont seem to find an appropriate file with the list
[16:26] <sdd> anybody alive? )
[16:28] <Pici> sdd: I'm not sure I understand the question.
[16:29] <Junka> pbx, nvm found it. Ty
[16:30] <Pici> sdd: libboost1.55-all-dev is a metapackage, it doesn't actually provide any files itself, ut it depends on the packages that do.
[16:31] <Vladimirski_> Not sure if this is correct channel but, I installed ubuntu on a windows 7 machine but now I can't boot win 7, I want to dual boot but it doesn't seem to work. No choosing windows is appearing, just booting directly into ubuntu
[16:31] <EriC^^> Vladimirski_: try to update-grub
[16:32] <Vladimirski_> EriC^^: okey I'll try!=) thanks
[16:32] <Vladimirski_> just run update-grub command ?
[16:32] <EriC^^> yes try it, see if it picks up the windows install ( Found windows.... on /dev/sd.. )
[16:32] <EriC^^> if it doesn't you can manually add an entry to grub
[16:33] <EriC^^> Vladimirski_: you need sudo btw, sudo update-grub
[16:33] <Vladimirski_> yep=)
[16:34] <fabienne___> Is there some particular optimization package ubuntu uses for font rendering? At least in comparison to my previous slackware install fonts in especially firefox appear much more crisp
[16:36] <SupaYoshi> anyone a pro with alsa and midi? Im trying to get sound working in the majority of my games under dosbox
[16:36] <SupaYoshi> But whatever I change or do, the sound wont work.
[16:37] <SupaYoshi> I have done, pmidi -l which gives me port 14:0 o Mid Through port 0
[16:37] <SupaYoshi> I put that in dosbox config, but it wont help me.
[16:44] <BluesKaj> SupaYoshi, not a pro but I have some alsa and audio knowledge, however how it runs or relates to dosbox is another matter
[16:45] <SupaYoshi> i am here now :D hehe http://macilatthefront.blogspot.nl/2010/05/timidity-and-dosbox-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[16:45] <SupaYoshi> So ill try that
[16:46] <miistx> salve
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:53] <skinux> Is there a tool that will search all PDF documents in a specific directory for a specified text?
[16:56] <pbx> skinux, adobe reader will do that i think
[16:56] <skinux> I'm not using Windows. However, I'll check if FoxIt Reader will do it actually.
[16:59] <Nickname123> Hello.  I've suddenly started getting errors like the following when building a docker image using ubuntu 12.04.  Is there an outage or what can I do? "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-doc_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.17_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]"
[16:59] <jpds> Nickname123: sudo apt-get update
[16:59] <Nickname123> That is the first run command of the dockerfile
[17:03] <tiX> Hey everyone
[17:03] <tiX> Can I get some help?
[17:04] <nully> tiX: its irc. don't ask to ask, just ask.
[17:04] <tiX> nully: thanks
[17:05] <tiX> I'm trying to boot from the liveCD, but I keep getting: http://xt3.me/4p3Z
[17:05] <skinux> Well, Foxit Reader can search for text, but you have to open and search each document seperately.
[17:09] <josephmurray> I am trying to install 14.04 on a box with a RAID-10 1TB drive and a RAID-1 500GB drive. I chose guided creation of full disk for 1TB drive, but can’t install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record for some reason. Error: Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard disk Unable to install GRUB in /dev/md124p1
[17:09] <squinty> tiX:  Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/    which doesn't have the dating/quiz advertisments that your link seems to be fond of
[17:09] <josephmurray> I have partition info, but not sure what would help.
[17:10] <josephmurray> both raids are full disk with LVM
[17:10] <josephmurray> Do I need to create a partition that is not LVM for boot purposes?
[17:26] <Poyraz76_> Have you read?   http://muchweb.me/systemd-nsa-attempt/
[17:27] <daftykins> sigh.
[17:28] <pbx> awesome bait for the ideological war
[17:28] <lolgarth> hi guys, is there a way to openn a gui folder from terminal?
[17:28] <lolgarth> in mac it's open .
[17:28] <lolgarth> . refers to the current directory
[17:28] <daftykins> nautilus . ?
[17:28] <daftykins> :>
[17:28] <lolgarth> and open opens a new window
[17:29] <lolgarth> wow sweet! thank you so much :)
[17:29] <daftykins> lol
[17:29] <magic_1> hi all
[17:29] <daftykins> i made that up :(
[17:29] <daftykins> hi.
[17:30] <magic_1> just a quick question, when doing do-release-upgrade do you lose your ip address config
[17:30] <daftykins> is it statically defined in your interfaces file?
[17:30] <magic_1> yea
[17:30] <magic_1> and i did select it to not change anything in dhcp
[17:32] <daftykins> magic_1: 'not change anything in DHCP' ? that doesn't make any sense
[17:32] <magic_1> the upgrade asked me if i wanted to upgrade the dhcp client
[17:32] <magic_1> i selected it to not change
[17:33] <daftykins> magic_1: there's no point in doing that.
[17:34] <ansivirus> you should upgrade the dhcp client. The upgrade should not overwrite any configuration files you have for it. but to be on the safe side you might want to just cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_pre_upgrade
[17:34] <viejotren> Hi, is there a way to downgrade just the kernel?
[17:34] <magic_1> yea i know that, i am working remotely though
[17:34] <EriC^^> viejotren: you can remove it if you want
[17:34] <magic_1> should have done that
[17:34] <daftykins> magic_1: it won't get called if interfaces is set static :)
[17:34] <EriC^^> viejotren: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-<kernel>
[17:35] <magic_1> daftykins, totally understand, just want to make sure if it would in anyway affect it, for some reason after the reboot i am unable to ping the machine
[17:35] <EriC^^> viejotren: or change the default kernel in grub
[17:35] <viejotren> EriC, and after a reboot what kernel will be in use?
[17:35] <magic_1> or remotely login
[17:35] <sparr> I'm on ubuntu 14.04 and getting kernel lockups on btrfs-flush_del similar to this bug report: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63571
[17:35] <EriC^^> viejotren: yes, it'd be better to change the default one in grub though
[17:35] <EriC^^> viejotren: so you can still dist-upgrade
[17:36] <sparr> but that bug was apparently fixed in kernel 3.13
[17:36] <viejotren> EriC I got it, one more, is there any way to display what kernels version are available on my system?
[17:36] <EriC^^> viejotren: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[17:37] <EriC^^> viejotren: to see what's in grub.cfg type grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:38] <magic_1> daftykins, i now get no route to host, which makes me think the box has lost its ip config
[17:38] <SupaYoshi> nope
[17:38] <SupaYoshi> dosbox no luck
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> viejotren: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep -v extra | awk {'print $2'}     is a bit nicer :)
[17:38] <daftykins> magic_1: on your local machine? where is this box?
[17:38] <ansivirus> magic_1, if it was DHCP there is the possibility it lost its lease and got a new IP on reboot
[17:39] <daftykins> ansivirus: please don't reply when you won't even scroll up
[17:39] <daftykins> it's not DHCP, that was the entire first point
[17:39] <magic_1> daynaskully, the machine is back at the office
[17:39] <magic_1> which means i might need to travel there
[17:40] <magic_1> ansivirus, thanks appreciate the input
[17:40] <daftykins> magic_1: not got the access to remote in and check for DHCP leases or anything else?
[17:40] <viejotren> EriC^^ cool, I got it, thanks
[17:40] <magic_1> i dont have access to the dhcp server, will call and see if anyone is there to check
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> magic_1: you could set a static IP in the subnet, set it at the top end and ping to make sure the IP isnt in use. Could cause issues on the LAN if a upe IP is given out but will help your problem
[17:42] <magic_1> ActionParsnip, will check with the guys if they can get that configured
[17:46] <ansivirus> daftykins, if it's not DHCP then why would he look for DHCP leases? seems to me like there are different conversations going on and I thought I did scroll up enough... my bad
[17:46] <neutralizer> can you tell me why UFW is blocking http://paste.ubuntu.com/8968309/ even though I have added rule http://paste.ubuntu.com/8968296/ and it was working but until now
[17:48] <daftykins> ansivirus: in the weird case that it broke
[17:49] <ansivirus> right on
[17:50] <gonyere> hi there, i'm running ubuntu 14.04 on a thinkpad l540 and the webcam has mysteriously stopped working... any suggestions?
[17:51] <neutralizer> ah I found it
[17:51] <daftykins> gonyere: power off, battery + mains out... then boot again? check lsusb?
[17:51] <gonyere> hi there, i'm running ubuntu 14.04 on a thinkpad l540 and the webcam has mysteriously stopped working... any suggestions?
[17:51] <gonyere> sorry for the double post
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> gonyere: if you run cheese, do you see yourself?
[17:52] <scorpion> hi
[17:54] <poli> I need to mount a partition on a directory that will be mounted at login by cryptfs. Is there a way to do that with the usual fstab mount, or do I need to setup some sort of script, otherwise when the ecrypt gets mounted, it will take over the previously mounted dire.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> poli: I dont use encrypted file systems but I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html
[18:03] <Simplar> Can you advise me a linux system which will fully be compatible with a notebook asus-x550cv?
[18:04] <EriC^^> !compatible | Simplar
[18:04] <EriC^^> !hardware | Simplar
[18:05] <EriC^^> Simplar: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[18:06] <sparr> I rebooted one of my hosts and now it has no network connectivity. Not just its VMs, but I can't ssh in or out of the host either.
[18:06] <Simplar> ok
[18:06] <Simplar> how to discover the hardware of my PC using ubuntu?
[18:06] <EriC^^> sudo lshw
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: without knowing the guts we won't know
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: its like saying "Is Windows fully compatible with my Asus P1-AH2 pundit?"
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: you can install lshw-gtk and get a pretty GUI to lshw :)
[18:08] <Simplar> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[18:09] <Guest85064> Can anyone help online with grub
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: to answer my own question, it's not :).
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest85064: ask and see
[18:10] <squinty> Simplar:  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/   my personal choice.  you can install if from repo's
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> !info inxi
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> squinty: ^
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> nice
[18:13] <Simplar> squinty: sec I will go get the info of my hardware
[18:17] <Simplar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8968873/
[18:17] <Simplar> Here it is!
[18:17] <Simplar> The hardware!
[18:18] <shantyman> While communing with my inner dummy, I pulled an SD card without unmounting. Nothing can read it now: master boot record missing. Tried gpart on GParted with no luck. What software can retrieve jpeg files from SD card?
[18:20] <coderman1> is there a place i can get 14.10 server full dvd so i dont need to be on the internet to install it
[18:20] <xangua> ubuntu.com
[18:20] <Guest85064> help with grub - anone ?y
[18:20] <coderman1> that requires internet connectivity
[18:21] <coderman1> if you are referring to the download think here http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: looks pretty bog standard gubbins
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest85064: ask and see
[18:21] <Guest85064> bye
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: you'll need nvidia-prime to support the Optimus video card you have
[18:22] <lolbote> i'm trying to install nvidia drivers and i'm having a hard time oding ti
[18:22] <lolbote> doing it*
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: is itan optimus thing?
[18:22] <lolbote> it says that i'm running x server
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> *it an
[18:23] <lolbote> i tried everything i could to kill it
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: use the packaged drivers, dont use the file from nvidia
[18:23] <lolbote> i don't know what i'm doing wrong :****(
[18:23] <lolbote> okay, i will use the packaged drivers
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a     use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to host the text
[18:25] <lolbote> http://pastie.org/9714978
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia-prime
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> gah
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> i hate that optimus hack
[18:26] <lolbote> what is the optimus hack?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: i just think its a poor solution
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: may help http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[18:28] <lolbote> my laptop gets about 2 hours of battery life :P
[18:28] <lolbote> thank you for that link
[18:29] <gr33n7007h> Anyone use Vuze?
[18:29] <joesmith> does anyone know any good tools to download all emails via either imap/pop3 and NOT delete them locally when they are deleted on the server?
[18:30] <Wes-> instead of the X session/login manager, is there a good way to make Ubuntu simply kick off a window manager and an application?
[18:30] <lolbote> so if this breaks x11 i have to reinstall right?
[18:30] <gr33n7007h> if so, is there an option somewhere to download to a specific directory?
[18:31] <lolbote> gr33n7007h: that should be in the settings of vuze
[18:31] <lolbote> check the preferences
[18:31] <lolbote> Wes-: i wish i could help you
[18:31] <ffabiorj> anybody help me
[18:31] <ffabiorj> when used to command apt-get update
[18:31] <ffabiorj> currently this error
[18:31] <ffabiorj> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.globo.com_ubuntu_archive_dists_trusty-backports_universe_source_Sources.IndexDiff - open (2: No such file or directory)
[18:31] <gr33n7007h> lolbote, I've looked through all preferences and can't find it :(
[18:32] <lolbote> gr33n7007h: https://wiki.vuze.com/w/Default_directory_for_downloaded_files
[18:32] <Wes-> joesmith: I used a tool ~10 years ago that could do this. It was a command-line thing. Damned if I can remember the name now.
[18:32] <gr33n7007h> lolbote, thanks
[18:33] <ragnarock> hi, i m using asus with nvidia 720m geforce and ubuntu 14.10 seems to hang a lot,is there any soln.?
[18:33] <Wes-> joesmith: it might have been fetchmail
[18:34] <lolbote> gr33n7007h: np
[18:34] <DMRadford> ragnarock, which driver version are you using? Official from nVidia or from the repos?
[18:34] <joesmith> Wes-: yeah there seems to be a lot of them. the imap ones don't seem to have a way to disable deleting local messages, and the pop ones require you manually configure the folders
[18:34] <Wes-> joesmith: your imap comment doesn't completely make sense -- but POP3 does not have a concept of folders  so anything foldery with POP3 is going to be a kludge
[18:35] <joesmith> Wes-: what i mean with imap is that i dont want it to synchronize deleted mails on the local backup. so if mails are deleted on the server, do NOT delete them locally
[18:35] <Steve_Jobs> MS guys are making a big stink about .net being open-sourced
[18:35] <ragnarock> DMRadford: I used this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/mamarley/nvidia/ubuntu
[18:36] <ragnarock> it's official i guess...
[18:36] <DMRadford> ragnarock, try the one from the standard repos
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> ffabiorj:  wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[18:37] <squinty> ffabiorj: http://mirror.globo.com/ubuntu/archive/dists/trusty-backports/universe/source/  seems to be accessible here   maybe try again (or try changing servers in Software /Updates) to see that clears the problem
[18:38] <ragnarock> DMRadford:k fine....thanks for the help and ur time,i vl see what can i do :)
[18:39] <ffabiorj> @ActionParsnip thanks
[18:39] <DMRadford> I'm running an Amazon EC2 instance with Ubuntu and I'm trying to get a java program to start automatically. I've put startup.sh in /etc/init.d, chmod +x startup.sh, update-rc.d startup.sh defaults. Still no dice. startup.sh contents: #!/bin/bash/ -e     java -jar loki.jar ./Blender/blender
[18:40] <DMRadford> ragnarock, I've had troubles with nvidia drivers before. Just keep trying different ones until you find one that works with your gpu I guess :/
[18:41] <FilthyMacNasty> hi guys, is there a way to recover a directory that was in a mv and the drive ran out of space?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: does it need to run as root?
[18:41] <nonamae> how can i run a script every time when my pc is getting back from suspend?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: ./Blender/blender   wont work in a script like that, you need to tell it the location of the foder it is in
[18:41] <nonamae> i mean how to automatize it
[18:42] <DMRadford> ActionParsnip, no it shouldn't. If I SSH into the instance, I run the program with "java -jar loki.jar ./Blender/blender"
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: you may run that as your user, as you are already in a relevant folder but the startup script doesnt have that
[18:42] <nusr> where is the mysql password located on ubuntu? i tried the .pid but it's not there
[18:42] <rberg_> DMRadford: are you sure you want the trailing / here? #!/bin/bash/ -e
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: if you add things to the startup like that then it wil run as root
[18:42] <FilthyMacNasty> nusr: the mysql password is stored within the database
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: you will need to add a 'cd' command to change to the directory containing the file, then use 'su' to run the command as your user
[18:43] <DMRadford> Oh, ok. so ./Blender/blender should be /etc/ubuntu/Blender/blender?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: what is the output of: file /etc/ubuntu/Blender/blender
[18:43] <nusr> FilthyMacNasty: thanks. i lost my password and tried following some tutorials online but can't get back in.
[18:43] <DMRadford> ActionParsnip, it's a program. loki.jar needs to know where blender is located
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> nusr: psychocat has a guide about password reset in root recovery console
[18:44] <hujo> nusr, try skip_external_locking, reset your password locally, re-enable it, done
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: then you need to tell it the _exact_ location, from /
[18:44] <DMRadford> rberg, I'm not sure? I'm new to command line bash scripting so I'm just punching in what google says should work...
[18:44] <azyr> ubuntu has built in power management for laptops these days?
[18:45] <rberg_> DMRadford: try it with #!/bin/bash -e
[18:45] <theadmin> DMRadford: Similarily, you'll need to put the exact location of loki.jar in.
[18:45] <nusr> ActionPArsnip, hujo: thank you. i'll try that
[18:45] <theadmin> DMRadford: For example, java -jar "/home/dmradford/java programs/loki.jar" "/home/dmradford/Blender/blender"
[18:45] <theadmin> Or whatever.
[18:46] <DMRadford> Ok
[18:46] <rberg_> and keep in mind that with -e any error will cause the rest of the script to fail
[18:46] <DMRadford> ah, so -e is bad in my case
[18:46] <theadmin> Well, when it's just one command it doesn't matter.
[18:46] <DMRadford> the "&" at the end makes it run in the background, correct?
[18:46] <rberg_> maybe not, everything I write is -e
[18:47] <theadmin> DMRadford: Yeah.
[18:47] <rberg_> correct about the &
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: because when YOU run the command there are lots of niceness in place. Root doesn't have those so you need to make long commands like theadmin showed
[18:48] <DMRadford> ok, will try that now.
[18:48] <theadmin> DMRadford: Also, when writing an initscript, you don't want the &, I beleive
[18:48] <theadmin> Upstart should handle that stuff.
[18:48] <DMRadford> ok
[18:50] <DMRadford> since I'm running this on Amazon EC2, the user is "ubuntu", so I *think* the location would be /home/ubuntu/loki.jar..... at the SSH terminal I uploaded loki.jar without navigating to another folder. Does that sound correct for the location?
[18:50] <theadmin> DMRadford: Sounds right, yup!
[18:50] <DMRadford> ok let me give this a shot....
[18:51] <waressearcher2> what is the best software I can use to capture video of gameplay in linux ?
[18:53] <waressearcher2> also, I have Core2Duo E2160 2x1.8Ghz CPU and Radeon X300 (10 year old) Video card, is it possible to use that hardware to capture gameplay with at least 25FPS ?
[18:53] <theadmin> waressearcher2: I use Kazam. I dunno about gameplay, but I use it for general video capturing and it works well.
[18:53] <theadmin> waressearcher2: Check it out, sorry if it doesn't fit your purposes.
[18:53] <waressearcher2> theadmin: you capture desktop stuff ?
[18:53] <theadmin> waressearcher2: Yeah, basically.
[18:54] <nonamae>  how can i run a script every time when my pc is getting back from suspend?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: http://askubuntu.com/questions/226278/run-script-on-wakeup#226284
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: seen that page before?
[18:57] <nonamae> ActionParsnip, no
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: it took me about 60 seconds to find....have you tried to find a solution online before asking?
[18:58] <nonamae> ActionParsnip, no
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: why not? didnt think to maybe find out yourself.......
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> jesus....
[19:00] <OerHeks> fraytorment-5895, please fix your connection
[19:07] <zy3pD> does someone here uses kdenlive? ... need help
[19:08] <bazhang> try #kdenlive zy3pD
[19:10] <Z3> Hi, when Ubuntu 15.04 or 15.10 appear allowing MIR display server installation, will MIR available for install in Ubuntu 14.04 too?
[19:11] <zy3pD> thx bazhang
[19:12] <Z3> or it's unknown at this time
[19:13] <coagen> so when will ubuntu go full systemd?
[19:13] <bubbasaures> Z3, look up unity 8, https://www.google.com/search?q=unity+8&hl=en&gbv=1&sei=RrFjVJLzD5W4oQSwwYCYDQ
[19:13] <coagen> what is the expected release?
[19:14] <Z3> bubbasaures thank you ! :)
[19:15] <OerHeks> !info systemd
[19:15] <coagen> OerHeks: so it is default in utopic?
[19:16] <bekks> coagen: No.
[19:17] <OerHeks> coagan no, it is still under development https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[19:17] <coagen> bekks: I had heard it would be in 15.04 a while ago, but I think I had heard recently it would be pushed back to 15.10, just trying to find a source for this
[19:17] <coagen> OerHeks: thx for link
[19:18] <bekks> coagen: systemd can be used in 14.10, but the default is upstart, still. And it will be the default until 15.10 at least.
[19:18] <coagen> bekks: thanks! do you know any links that can provide this on a roadmap or something?
[19:20] <frib> can anyone recommend software for fingerprint-reading in ubuntu?
[19:21] <nonamae> how can i turn off the X Input Method, sometimes and after suspend it takes back the control over ibus
[19:21] <nonamae> ?
[19:22] <OerHeks> frib, there is a PPA https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui with list of supported devices
[19:23] <bazhang> nonamae, tried to restart ibus?
[19:23] <frib> OerHeks, thanks
[19:23] <nonamae> bazhang, if i do that the next time it will happen again
[19:23] <OerHeks> oh frib, this article says it does not really work well http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/how-to-get-your-fingerprint-reader-working-in-ubuntu
[19:24] <frib> OerHeks, oh no! i'm not supported :(
[19:25] <frib> OerHeks, so there's no way ?
[19:25] <frib> if my device is not in that list?
[19:28] <hotdog_harry> can someone explain to me where in the file tree i should be looking for someth8ing like an .exe file
[19:28] <hotdog_harry> i installed winFF and i can not figure out how to run it :(
[19:28] <bubbasaures> frib, If I could say, make sure you are backed up in lieu of anything happening.
[19:28] <bekks> hotdog_harry: you cannot run it on linux.
[19:29] <frib> bubbasaures, backed up for what?
[19:29] <bekks> !info winff
[19:29] <bekks> AH :)
[19:29] <bekks> hotdog_harry: Just open a terminal and type "winff" and press enter.
[19:29] <hotdog_harry> i don't understand. i installed it from ubuntu software center.
[19:29] <hotdog_harry> it doesn't show up :(
[19:29] <bubbasaures> frib, Well we see people here everyday bricking their setups with encryption....etc.
[19:29] <frib> bubbasaures, i'm trying to install a fingerprint reader
[19:30] <bekks> hotdog_harry: Keep it in the channel please.
[19:31] <bazhang> !info handbrake
[19:31] <bubbasaures> frib, Backups are what any smart user and IT use.
[19:31] <hujo> frib, any well chosen password will provide you with more security
[19:31] <hotdog_harry> the program is showing as installed (winff) but i cant find it with a search
[19:31] <bazhang> then get handbrake hotdog_harry
[19:31] <hotdog_harry> that was my first choice but winff was easier to install
[19:31] <frib> hujo, i'm not trying to replace my password, i'm just trying to do it to have it
[19:32] <frib> bubbasaures, i have all my data backed up, but still don't see why you're urging me to right now
[19:32] <hotdog_harry> handbrake doesnt have a file for my ubuntu version ...
[19:32] <hotdog_harry> saucy
[19:32] <bekks> hotdog_harry: which ubuntu version do you have then?
[19:32] <bekks> !saucy
[19:32] <bubbasaures> frib, Had you said you had it backed up we would not be talking.
[19:32] <slyrus> any idea why mounting nfs disks at startup would break on upgrade to utopic?
[19:32] <slyrus> cifs mount at startup still works fine :(
[19:32] <bekks> hotdog_harry: Saucy is end of life. Consider updating now.
[19:32] <hotdog_harry> no :(
[19:33] <hotdog_harry> i don't want to end my life :(
[19:33] <frib> bubbasaures, why are you telling me to back up my data?
[19:33] <bubbasaures> frib, the majority here don't it seems, mine was just a heads up in that area is all. ;)
[19:33] <EsoRotica> Hi, I'm having video issues: One of my two monitors fails for a second then comes back up (blacking both screens while X tries to reorder) I've switched from FGLRX to the Radeon driver recently and this may be why the issue appears new. dmesg reports "rv770_restrict_performance_levels_before_switch failed"
[19:33] <frib> but what does that have to do with a fingerprint reader
[19:33] <user123> dmesg | tail gives me "isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sda2, iso_blknum=16, block=32" allthough sda2 isnt listed in fstab, does anyone know how i can get my system to try and stop mounting it? it is only an extented partition
[19:34] <arun_> hi
[19:34] <quidnunc> What is linux-cloud-tools?
[19:34] <afterlife> test
[19:34] <hujo> frib, some readers may expect you to encrypt your harddrive etc.
[19:35] <frib> hujo, really? that's pretty oppressive if you ask me
[19:36] <bubbasaures> frib, You barely have a grasp on your own personal reality, don't project it on us.
[19:37] <hujo> frib, I'd say experience, but whatever :)
[19:37] <hujo> frib, so - what are you doing with that nice fingerpint reader of yours?
[19:37] <frib> bubbasaures, you got it
[19:37] <frib> hujo, having fun
[19:38] <frib> hujo, or rather nothing, because there's no driver for it
[19:38] <hujo> frib, no harm in that, carry on :)
[19:38] <frib> hujo, I know, right? thanks
[19:39] <bubbasaures> quidnunc, General term, depends on the use and OS I think, researching this may be a better tool.
[19:40] <slyrus> bah. can't even file a bug against ubuntu-bug!
[19:41] <slyrus> "other problem" in the GUI -> "you need to specify a package or a PID"
[19:41] <slyrus> thanks man
[19:41] <slyrus> and clicking on the "report a bug" link in launchpad just takes me to the stupid FAQ page.
[19:42] <bubbasaures> !bugs
[19:43] <slyrus> yeah, yeah... no excuse for a broken gui though.
[19:44] <slyrus> and of course ubuntu-bug ubuntu-bug doesn't do the trick as that's not the package name
[19:44] <bubbasaures> slyrus, This is a support channel can consider that use?
[19:44] <slyrus> bubbasaures: see above "slyrus	any idea why mounting nfs disks at startup would break on upgrade to utopic?"
[19:45] <trelane> is there any documentation or information on Ubuntu Server's market share?
[19:45] <slyrus> but, yeah
[19:45] <lancelot_of> hi there
[19:45] <bubbasaures> slyrus, Cool, we just ask you keep the channel as focused and communicating not just commenting if possible. ;)
[19:46] <lancelot_of> i've virtualbox with extension pack under my 14.04.1 LTS but no usb devices are discovered if i plug them in. Any help please?
[19:46] <bubbasaures> lancelot_of, YOu have to add them in the preferences.
[19:46] <bekks> Is the user running vbox a member of the vboxuser group?
[19:46] <bubbasaures> thaat to
[19:49] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm using ubuntu on an old ibm netvista pc, and the speakers are shot. The pc doesn't have bluetooth, but I have a bluetooth speaker that I use for my phone that I would like to use. For the computer, can I get sound through bt with just a dongle, or does it have to be something like a new sound card?
[19:50] <lancelot_of> bekks, bubbasaures my user was not in the group vboxusers, so i added it
[19:50] <lancelot_of> bekks, bubbasaures but no way to discover usb device
[19:50] <bekks> lancelot_of: Now you have to log out completely and log back in.
[19:50] <OerHeks> Seven_Six_Two, dongle will do
[19:50] <lancelot_of> bekks, oh, killing present X session?
[19:50] <bekks> lancelot_of: Yes.
[19:51] <DMRadford> Hey all. I'm trying to get a java program to run at startup and I'm having trouble getting it going. The computer is an Amazon EC2 instance running Ubuntu Server. I've created startup.sh and put it in /etc/init.d/, chmod +x startup.sh, update-rc.d startup.sh defaults, nothing is working. Startup.sh contents: #!/bin/bash    java -jar /home/ubuntu/loki.jar /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender
[19:51] <lancelot_of> bekks, ok see you in a while (it's a pity i've to loose all my present work....)
[19:51] <bekks> lancelot_of: "Save as..."
[19:52] <OerHeks> DMRadford, on startup? then the java jar is out of reach, as the user is not logged in
[19:52] <OerHeks> DMRadford, start the script at login
[19:52] <lancelot_of> bekks, i've a lot of stuffs opened, a lot of workspaces with documents and others....i was not thinking to Save as...
[19:52] <DMRadford> OerHeks, ah, that would make sense. Do ec2 instances auto login? How would I set it to run at login?
[19:53] <hujo> DMRadford, file /home/ubuntu/loki.jar
[19:53] <bekks> lancelot_of: Or even just "Save". Thats how most people save their work, actually :)
[19:53] <OerHeks> DMRadford, add that script to startupappications
[19:53] <lancelot_of> bekks, ^^
[19:53] <OerHeks> *applications
[19:54] <lancelot_of> bekks, or did you refer to other "system based " save?
[19:54] <DMRadford> OerHeks, how do I do that via command line? the only access I have to the computer is SSH
[19:54] <lancelot_of> bekks, i guess you were talking about "save" of applications...
[19:54] <bekks> lancelot_of: No. I refer to the Save/Save As facilities of your applications.
[19:55] <lancelot_of> bekks, but this does not help me to restore current X session as it is, with a lot of documents opened, a lot of software etc...
[19:55] <lancelot_of> bekks, however, i'm going to do it anyway
[19:56] <OerHeks> DMRadford, http://askubuntu.com/questions/178567/how-to-add-a-program-as-startup-application-from-terminal
[19:57] <nikio_> How can I see all the oupt of a HTTP method with telnet? the ouytput is too large for the terminal
[19:58] <DMRadford> OerHeks, there's no .config folder under /home or /home/ubuntu
[19:58] <hujo> nikio_, use netcat and pipe the output to a pager or file
[19:59] <OerHeks> DMRadford, sure there is , type: ls -al
[19:59] <OerHeks> see 'man ls ' why
[20:00] <DMRadford> ah, got it (sorry, command line n00b here, still learning)
[20:02] <DMRadford> so, that info seems to only apply to desktop environments. Since it's an ec2 instance, it's not running gnome or KDE
[20:02] <hujo> DMRadford, try `file /home/ubuntu/loki.jar`
[20:03] <DMRadford> hujo, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that. Put it in the bash in init.d/startup.sh?
[20:04] <hujo> DMRadford, you run it on your server
[20:04] <hujo> DMRadford, after you ssh-ed into it
[20:05] <DMRadford> SSH launch isn't an option really. I'm using ec2 as render nodes for a scalable render farm. I need the program to run automatically when the instance initiates.
[20:06] <ilun> hola
[20:08] <ilun> hi
[20:08] <lando> hi
[20:08] <OerHeks> DMRadford, don't put that scipt in your /home/ but in /opt/
[20:08] <ilun> q tal?
[20:08] <DMRadford> OerHeks, is there a way to make java jar available without any user being logged in?
[20:08] <OerHeks> DMRadford, then it will be in reach when your EC2 starts
[20:08] <nicksloan> pg_createcluster looks for a postgresql.conf file in the data directory when it encounters an existing cluster
[20:09] <nicksloan> but then it moves it to /etc
[20:09] <nicksloan> seems like it should symlink it instead
[20:09] <DMRadford> OerHeks, do you mean startup.sh, or the jar file and blender?
[20:09] <hujo> DMRadford, just log in right now and run the command I gave you
[20:10] <DMRadford> hujo: Here is the output from that....
[20:10] <DMRadford> ubuntu@ip-172-31-37-164:~/.config$ file /home/ubuntu/loki.jar /home/ubuntu/Blend         er/blender
[20:11] <OerHeks> DMRadford, the script and jar file, for blender i am not sure, as you have put it in your home too
[20:11] <hujo> DMRadford, the output is missing?
[20:12] <DMRadford> ... /home/ubuntu/loki.jar:        Java Jar file data (zip)
[20:12] <DMRadford> ... /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender: ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYS         V), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=b         cd197c22f2bedfa78626ff882480d03277288f7, stripped
[20:12] <hujo> DMRadford, alright - now we at least know that the files are actually there
[20:12] <DMRadford> lol
[20:12] <DMRadford> very true I suppose
[20:13] <DMRadford> OerHeks, if I put startup.sh in /opt, what tells it to automatically run at startup?
[20:13] <Linnak> Hi Guys. I wrote a script and I'd like to know if it worked: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5Pw8jCr4
[20:13] <Loshki> DMRadford: can/should you not invoke it from /etc/rc.local?
[20:14] <hujo> DMRadford, and now could you please paste the complete and unchanged contents of your startup shell file? http://paste.debian.net/
[20:14] <DMRadford> Loshki, I'm not sure, I'm not familiar with rc.local
[20:15] <DMRadford> http://paste.debian.net/131486/
[20:15] <DMRadford> I haven't moved the files or anything yet, that's what it looks like right now
[20:15] <hujo> DMRadford, and what does `which bash` give you?
[20:16] <Loshki> DMRadford: it's a shell script that runs as root as its final act before users login. A good place to kick off anything that doesn't need a display...
[20:16] <DMRadford> ... /bin/bash
[20:17] <Apachez> any of you who happens to have experience of x11vnc on ubuntu 14.10 ?
[20:17] <Wes-> does anyone know how to force a specific xsession desktop for a specific user in lightdm?
[20:17] <DMRadford> Loshki, ok. So I just put startup.sh in rc.local? Do I have to register it or anything other than make sure its executable?
[20:17] <Apachez> it runs but veeeery slow :S
[20:17] <Loshki> DMRadford: basically, copy startup.sh to /etc/rc.local, then reboot. Might wanna add some debugging lines to the script too :-)
[20:18] <Ameurux> hi
[20:19] <itisit> Hi, i installed erlang sloutions' version of erlang on ubuntu, but running apt-get -f install doesn't install those "unmet dependencies", such as erlang-appmon, erlang-debugger… Does anyone know how to fix it? the repo entry has been defined in sources.list.
[20:19] <fr33domlover> Hello
[20:19] <fr33domlover> Is it possible to run a Launchpad instance on my website?
[20:19] <Loshki> Apachez: I've used x11vnc before. Got a question?
[20:20] <DMRadford> Loshki, Ok I'm testing that now. Should that script work as is or should I still move the java files and blender into /opt like OerHeks said?
[20:20] <hujo> itisit, I never user their versions - you also might want to consult #erlang
[20:20] <OerHeks> fr33domlover, sure https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/920
[20:21] <lancelot_of> bekks, i followed your suggestion, now it seems usb works but when i plug in my phone it is not detected. But it should be, because i'm virtualizing winzoz just to use the corresponding software for my phone
[20:21] <hujo> itisit, they have been buggy for me in the past, I either use the version in the repos or compile myself
[20:21] <Loshki> DMRadford: shouldn't matter, but you might need full paths to the files so the script can find them.
[20:21] <OerHeks> itisit what is the repo ?
[20:21] <bekks> lancelot_of: Whats your phone, in particular?
[20:21] <peakland> Apachez, I have a question.  I'm trying to establish a remote desktop connection into a ubuntu system.  The screen shows up but there are no icons on the desktop.
[20:21] <fr33domlover> OerHeks, "Also, Launchpad's production configuration information and some configuration-specific admin scripts are not part of the Launchpad code base; you'd have to reinvent those in a way appropriate for your setup."
[20:21] <lancelot_of> bekks, BB Q5
[20:22] <fr33domlover> I read it nearly impossible to rewrite those scripts
[20:22] <itisit> hujo: thanks. Unfortunately, we prefer their version of Erlang due to stability.
[20:22] <fr33domlover> Anyone did it before?
[20:22] <itisit> OerHeks: repository
[20:22] <DMRadford> Loshki, the full paths are already in startup.sh. I moved startup.sh and rebooted the instance. Still didn't connect to my render manager so still not working
[20:22] <hujo> itisit, well, I use in erlang in production, never from erlang solutions, and we have 0 stability issues
[20:22] <bekks> lancelot_of: you are heaviliy out of luck, since thats a dual personality device which uses a non-standard way to communicate over USB. Thank you, Blackberry.
[20:23] <itisit> OerHeks: is deb http://packages.erlang-solutions.com/ubuntu precise contrib
[20:25] <itisit> hujo: I agree with you since I also use eralng for a long time and didn't see problem, but right now try to support rabbitmq, whom prefers E Solution's version.
[20:26] <OerHeks> itisit, ar you on utopic 14.10 ?
[20:26] <Loshki> DMRadford: add some debugging lines to make sure it executes e.g. echo "`date` Started rc.local" >> /tmp/rc.log; jar java -jar /home/ubuntu/loki.jar /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender >> /tmp/rc.log; echo "`date` Ended rc.local" >> /tmp/rc.log;
[20:26] <itisit> OerHeks: no, 12.04 precise
[20:26] <OerHeks> itisit, oke, make sure you enable universe repo in sources
[20:28] <OerHeks> itisit, then run apt-get install -f  again
[20:28] <itisit> OerHeks: sure. thanks.
[20:32] <Novice201y> Hello. Is there official polish #ubuntu channel?
[20:32] <DJones> !pl
[20:33] <Novice201y> DJones: Dzieki.
[20:33] <lancelot_of> bekks, but under windows it should work, BB link works only under windows...
[20:33] <Novice201y> #join #ubuntu-pl
[20:33] <bekks> lancelot_of: On a native install, yes. With the BB drivers installed.
[20:34] <lancelot_of> bekks, and i cannot install BB drivers under virtualized windows?
[20:34] <bekks> lancelot_of: You can, but that will not change the way vbox talks to that device.
[20:39] <ubuntu-user> hi need help
[20:39] <lancelot_of> bekks, ok so no way in your opinion
[20:39] <OerHeks> !ask | ubuntu-user
[20:40] <bekks> lancelot_of: Ciorrect, yes. You could file a bug in the vbox bugtracker, so the vbox devs are able to fix it in the future.
[20:40] <lancelot_of>  bekks how to
[20:41] <ubuntu-user> in which log can I find errors ocurs just bevor gnone came up?
[20:42] <Simplar_> Hi, can you tell me what I need to fully run up all my devices on debian\ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8971076/
[20:42] <Simplar_> i can't get my webcam working :(
[20:45] <BUSY> can i clear ~/.cache/?
[20:45] <OerHeks> ubuntu-user, see ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session.log
[20:47] <Guest35977> does anyone know of a good voice chat program that doesn't require an account (ip to ip calling)?
[20:48] <DerProfessor> Re OK hab ich und jetzt?
[20:48] <bazhang> !de
[20:49] <matrixa1> How do I stop the battery from charging above a certain percentage? Or modify the "charge" and "charged" thresholds separately? I have googled, and no I don't own a thinkpad.
[20:50] <redshift> hi iv some problem with apt-get
[20:50] <redshift> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:50] <redshift> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:51] <redshift> can any1 help me please
[20:51] <daftykins> !aptlock | redshift
[20:51] <OerHeks> redshift, do you have softwarecenter/synaptic open ? close that first before doing something in terminal
[20:54] <necrodude> sup
[20:54] <Fetch> if I have a 14.04 install with luks encrypted root, is there a supported way of upgrading to 14.10?
[20:55] <Wes-> I'm doing a custom LiveCD.   Is there a better way to get OS updates other than a chroot'd "apt-get update" before mksquashfs?
[20:57] <frumpus> anyone on who's good with phpmyadmin config? I'm getting a Not Found after install
[20:57] <bekks> frumpus: the default config works fine. What didi you change there?
[20:58] <frumpus> didn't change a thing :-/
[20:58] <frumpus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252541
[20:58] <frumpus> details there
[20:58] <cbasingertx> sudo apt-get -f install  ??
[20:58] <bekks> frumpus: And where do you get "not found"?
[20:58] <bekks> cbasingertx: For doing what?
[20:59] <frumpus> this is a localhost setup for a dev environment. get not found going to localhost/phpmyadmin
[20:59] <cbasingertx> Whenever my packages fail to install properly that alwayes fixes it
[20:59] <cbasingertx> ooh
[20:59] <bekks> cbasingertx: Thats like a nuke for a little birdie...
[20:59] <bekks> frumpus: Did you take look at the apache logs?
[21:00] <cbasingertx> I thought you were meaning package was saying not found when you tried to run the binary...my bad
[21:00] <frumpus> no, i'm quite the n00b so not sure where those are
[21:00] <bekks> frumpus: They can be found in /var/log/
[21:00] <bekks> frumpus: Which Ubuntu are you on, and how did you install phpmyadmin?
[21:00] <bynarie> frumpus-  do you even have a phpmyadmin folder on local drive under www root?
[21:01] <frumpus> 14.04, checking log now
[21:01] <bekks> bynarie: Thats not where it is placed when installing it using the ubuntu repos
[21:02] <bynarie> ok but in order to access it from http://host/phpmyadmin wouldnt it need to be placed in www root folder?
[21:03] <bynarie> wwwroot/phpmyadmin
[21:03] <Ben64> yes
[21:03] <bekks> bynarie: No
[21:03] <Ben64> i mean, unless theres another config for it
[21:03] <bekks> bynarie: It is configured as a virtual site
[21:03] <frumpus> error.log shows this
[21:03] <frumpus> [Wed Nov 12 10:08:45.154018 2014] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 13644] AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[21:03] <frumpus> [Wed Nov 12 10:08:46.374693 2014] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 13711] AH00163: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.5.9-1ubuntu4.5 configured -- resuming normal operations
[21:03] <frumpus> [Wed Nov 12 10:08:46.374750 2014] [core:notice] [pid 13711] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[21:03] <bynarie> oh i seer
[21:03] <bynarie> see*
[21:04] <Ben64> bynarie: download phpmyadmin from here, put in your web root folder, and use it. http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/downloads.php
[21:05] <bynarie> i dont need it... frumpus does
[21:05] <bynarie> i was just asking
[21:06] <Fetch> also, don't download phpadmin from source and install it and bypass the package management system unless you legitimately can't get it working otherwise
[21:06] <Fetch> you'll forget about it, a security update will come out, and you'll never know
[21:06] <frumpus> yeah, would prefer to not go that route
[21:07] <frumpus> this is the guide i'm using to set everything up, http://klau.si/dev wondering if it is missing a step somewhere
[21:07] <frumpus> it's a little dated but wouldn't think that much has changed
[21:08] <bekks> frumpus: Forget that guide.
[21:08] <bekks> frumpus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:09] <frumpus> hmm... that looks like more of a server guide, i'm wanting a local dev environment using localhost  and multiple vhosts
[21:10] <cryptodan> frumpus: samething
[21:10] <frumpus> ooooh, it has a bit on troubleshooting my exact problem though
[21:11] <cryptodan> frumpus: you could also just use a VM of Ubuntu Server
[21:11] <frumpus> starting over a third time doesn't sound like much fun
[21:11] <frumpus> this is already a VM
[21:12] <cryptodan> If you install Ubuntu Server you can select LAMP which will get you want you want for Apache, MySQL, and PHP
[21:13] <bekks> frumpus: Just follow that guide.
[21:13] <FilthyMacNasty> could someone help me recover a directory that was in the process of mv * when the drive ran out of space?
[21:14] <tesaf> apache :(
[21:14] <lama2p00> Anyone can help me get Bumblebee working for my GTX 870M? I found this guide, but it's for Kali OS, I know Ubuntu and Kali are both Debian based, but, the guide talks about wheezy backports? and I don't think that applies to Ubuntu? idk...  https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?21956-%28Guide%29-Installing-Nvidia-Bumblebee-CUDA-for-Optimus-enabled-Laptops&p=35420&viewfull=1#post35420
[21:14] <tesaf> the saddest web server of them all
[21:14] <frumpus> FIXED
[21:15] <k1l> lama2p00: use nvidia-prime, bumblebee is deprecated
[21:15] <frumpus> added include /etc/phpmyadmin/apached.conf to the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file
[21:15] <lama2p00> Ok, a guide to install that? And which Nvidia Driver will it work with?
[21:15] <frumpus> thanks bekks, that guide had exactly what I needed
[21:15] <k1l> lama2p00: what gives "lsb_release -d"
[21:16] <lama2p00> Ubuntu 14.04.1
[21:16] <lama2p00> I'm on Ubuntu Gnome
[21:18] <nuke1989> some tcp connections got time_out on my server.  I want to make them connect as usual. any tips?
[21:18] <mustmodify> How do I get a list of files _without_ the string "page_title" ie the opposite of `grep page_title app/views -r` ... I was thinking find app/views -type f | something ...
[21:18] <k1l> lama2p00: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[21:19] <cryptodan> nuke1989: what kind of connections are they outbound and to what?
[21:19] <lama2p00> 331 isn't new enough for 870M
[21:20] <nuke1989> cryptodan, being a noob i cant really answer you. All i know is that everything worked fine but i rebooted server and my thinking is they got time banned or something because they were trying to reach server when it was rebooting
[21:21] <dw__> idk if this is the right place to ask this, but I'm having some major issue with counterstrike source on ubuntu mate 14.10
[21:21] <cryptodan> nuke1989: might I suggest that you brush up on your networking skills before trying to run a server, and a reboot wont cause them to get "time banned"
[21:21] <nuke1989> cryptodan, this is what i am actually doing :) I am learning with trial.
[21:22] <cryptodan> nuke1989: I hope to god its not public facing
[21:22] <Ben64> dw__: ubuntu mate isn't supported
[21:22] <nuke1989> no its totally personal!
[21:22] <cryptodan> lama2p00: the 331-updates should be what they want
[21:22] <bekks> nuke1989: And whats not working now?
[21:22] <cryptodan> nuke1989: then just wait for those time_outs to clear
[21:23] <lama2p00> what is 331-updates? it it 331 driver? or newer?
[21:23] <dw__> Ben64, ok then
[21:23] <daftykins> lama2p00: still haven't made any progress, eh?
[21:23] <nuke1989> cryptodan, where can i see how much time it takes for them to clear and how do i change time?
[21:23] <lama2p00> Well I have the system booting into gnome now..
[21:23] <cryptodan> nuke1989: its all part of the TCP/IP Protocol
[21:24] <daftykins> lama2p00: oh right. what was the trick?
[21:25] <jasones0084> Wow! This channel is hot!
[21:25] <crystal_s> hello . tor is safe ander man on the middle attack ?
[21:25] <lama2p00> I was lazy, just installed xubuntu-desktop.. So, could be a lot of things.. Maybe lightdm instead of gdm? gdm went bad? who knows lol
[21:26] <jasones0084> i had a hard time with getting port forwarding to work with my Ubuntu apache server
[21:26] <jasones0084> keeps trying to hard link to the LAN
[21:26] <jasones0084> probably have to setup a FQDN
[21:27] <fabienne___> Is there some particular optimization package ubuntu uses for font rendering? At least in comparison to my previous slackware install fonts in especially firefox appear much more crisp
[21:29] <Krixvar> Thought I got my soundcard's stereo outputs finally working using .asoundrc but it seems it was just a fluke... not working again :/ any idea why my sound card very occasionally outputs from the main stereo pair but usually only works from the second one? Its a mixvibes u-mix 44
[21:33] <bray90820> Are there any tablets that support the X86_64 version of ubuntu
[21:33] <Ben64> bray90820: look for tablets that support windows x64
[21:35] <bray90820> bekks: I tried that and thought I found one but it turned out to be some clover-trail crap and ubuntu won't install on the damn thing
[21:35] <bray90820> wrong ping
[21:35] <bray90820> Ben64: I tried that and thought I found one but it turned out to be some clover-trail crap and ubuntu won't install on the damn thing
[21:37] <Ben64> bray90820: ok then, make sure its a normal x64 processor i guess, might not be many in tablet form
[21:38] <bray90820> Ben64: Intel Atom Z2760 Dual-core CPU properties inside of windows says x86 based processor
[21:38] <Krixvar> whoops just crashed.. the only way I can occasionally get the card to work correctly is by plugging and unplugging it a few times.. though sometimes it'll just stop working altogether until I reboot if I unplug it too many times
[21:38] <lama2p00> Seems to be working since lightdm is used instead of gdm now. BUT, lightdm seems a little buggy with Gnome.. I can't have more than one desktop either.
[21:39] <Ben64> bray90820: very slow too
[21:39] <cryptodan> lama2p00: you mean workspace?
[21:39] <lama2p00> yeah
[21:39] <cryptodan> lama2p00: you can add those
[21:39] <nggafriedchkn> does anyone know why on linux the speakers sound fuzzy?
[21:39] <lama2p00> how? I had them by default before
[21:39] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: they don't
[21:39] <nggafriedchkn> i'm on ubuntu, but this problem persists through different linux distributions
[21:40] <cryptodan> in the settings for your desktop environment lama2p00
[21:40] <bray90820> Ben64: I am only using it for web browsing text editing and videos so i don't meed much power
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> it sounds like an nes game
[21:40] <Ben64> bray90820: then why does it need to be 64?
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> Ben64: my speakers sound like an nes game
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> but if i boot into windows it'll be fine
[21:40] <lama2p00> the screen keeps freezing too here and there..
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> i'm puzzled by this
[21:41] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: pastebin "lspci"
[21:41] <buba> ciao a tutti
[21:41] <cryptodan> lama2p00: sounds like your computer is having hardware issues
[21:41] <bray90820> Ben64: when I said that I wasn't really thinking i ment like the normal desktop version of ubuntu not ubuntu touch crap
[21:41] <buba> ho un piccolo problema
[21:41] <basil1x> ArrivederLa, buba
[21:41] <basil1x> Oops
[21:41] <basil1x> Thought you were leaving
[21:42] <basil1x> What is it, hon?
[21:42] <buba> chi mi aiuta????
[21:42] <nggafriedchkn> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/ATmciSt1
[21:42] <lama2p00> Hardware or driver?, pretty new laptop and hasn't had problems hardware related.
[21:42] <Ben64> !it | buba
[21:42] <cryptodan> lama2p00: might be hardware
[21:43] <lama2p00> I'm thinking maybe lightdm and Gnome just don't play well together?
[21:43] <nggafriedchkn> bubba ti serve aiuto?
[21:43] <lama2p00> because this is new.
[21:43] <buba> grazie
[21:43] <nggafriedchkn> qual'e il vostro problema?
[21:43] <k1l> lama2p00: gnome on the ubuntu gnome is more to the original gnome and might need gdm to work properly
[21:44] <k1l> !it | nggafriedchkn
[21:44] <lama2p00> Yeah I guess so, but for this hybrid graphics to work I need lightdm..
[21:44] <OerHeks> nggafriedchkn buba english only please, or continue in #ubuntu-it
[21:44] <lama2p00> Guess I just should use a different DE? =(
[21:44] <lama2p00> I like Gnome =( lol
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> wow ubottu is slow
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> but i'm helping him out in the italian channel :P
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> so this is my paste
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> http://pastebin.com/ATmciSt1
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> i don't get what's wrong with it
[21:45] <cryptodan> lama2p00: no you dont
[21:45] <lama2p00> I don't like Gnome?
[21:46] <cryptodan> lama2p00: your display manager has nothign to do with graphics please follow this http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1687 if you are using intel with nvidia
[21:46] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Alsa#Set_the_default_sound_card
[21:46] <lama2p00> The hybrid graphics page from ubuntu says lightdm is required
[21:47] <mustmodify> How do I get a list of files _without_ the string "page_title" ie the opposite of `grep page_title app/views -r` ... I was thinking find app/views -type f | something ...
[21:47] <cryptodan> lama2p00: its not
[21:47] <lama2p00> that page mentions bumblebee
[21:47] <nggafriedchkn> i don't want to sound like a windows shill, but is there a way to have the sounds automatically switch over when headphones are unplugged for example?
[21:47] <lama2p00> bumblebee was a problem for me, and someone else said it was depricated, to use nvidia-prime
[21:47] <nggafriedchkn> like switch over to speakers
[21:48] <NegativeFlare> mustmodify: I'm not sure anyone in here could help you with Regex stuff, this is a Ubuntu Help Channel.
[21:48] <cryptodan> lama2p00: they are wrong
[21:48] <nggafriedchkn> windows made that feature super easy
[21:48] <nggafriedchkn> just unplug... here it seems really difficult
[21:48] <nggafriedchkn> but thanks for the read, i love learning stuff
[21:48] <lama2p00> With Bumblebee xorg was crashing and terminating.
[21:48] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: usually it works automagically in ubuntu
[21:49] <cryptodan> lama2p00: sounds like your computer may need a fresh installation
[21:49] <OerHeks> lama2p00, no, nvidia prime is not depreciated
[21:49] <k1l> lama2p00: bumblebee is deprecated
[21:49] <nggafriedchkn> Ben64: well, i have wireless headphones and they work, but i have to go to sound settings and select the headphones in order to use them
[21:49] <Jake> Hey there, does anyone know of a file recovery package that can handle the recovery of .log files? testdisk doesn't show the directory and photorec doesn't support log files
[21:49] <k1l> lama2p00: nvidia-prime is the way to go
[21:49] <mustmodify> NegativeFlare: it was worth a shot... I often learn bash here. :)
[21:49] <nggafriedchkn> it doesn't happen automatically :(
[21:49] <n0o0b> Hi : Where can I download libpcap.so.0.9.x ?
[21:49] <NegativeFlare> mustmodify: ah. I see.
[21:49] <lama2p00> yes, bumblebee depricated what I was jsut told by you, he's saying to use bumblebee =|
[21:49] <mustmodify> NegativeFlare: since most ubuntu folk seem to know their way around bash.
[21:50] <k1l> lama2p00: see the error logs to see what the issue with gdm is then
[21:50] <NegativeFlare> mustmodify: Yes, most ;)
[21:50] <OerHeks> !testdisk | Jake
[21:50] <k1l> lama2p00: who says to use bumblebee?
[21:50] <temje>  Hey folks. I'm running Xubuntu 14.04.1. I recently uninstalled steam with 'sudo apt-get remove steam' and now all I get is a grey screen upon login. I can still run guake though! any ideas?
[21:50] <cryptodan> no bumblebee will include nvidia prime
[21:50] <nggafriedchkn> my speakers sound fine during boot, but something happens when i switch back over from headphones
[21:50] <lama2p00> scryptodan
[21:50] <lama2p00> he gave me link for bumblebee
[21:50] <nggafriedchkn> the speakers start sounding fuzzy after i take off my headphones
[21:50] <Ben64> n0o0b: 0.8 is the latest in ubuntu, if you want a newer one, you're on your own
[21:50] <cryptodan> lama2p00: follow that guide I sent you
[21:51] <cryptodan> lama2p00: it will work
[21:51] <k1l> lama2p00: cryptodan is plain wrong here. the displaymanager starts the xserver. so its 100% relating on the drivers involved
[21:51] <n0o0b> Ben64: thx.. Can I use alient to convert an rpm  ?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> nggafriedchkn: Please change your nick to somthing more appropriate for this channel.
[21:51] <lama2p00> I thought so
[21:51] <lama2p00> and lightdm isn't working well with gnome
[21:51] <NegativeFlare> temje: Sounds like something has broken the actual desktop environment.
[21:51] <cryptodan> lama2p00: follow the guide I sent you
[21:51] <Ben64> n0o0b: that is not recommended, you're definitely on your own for that
[21:51] <cryptodan> it will work
[21:51] <k1l> cryptodan: you are wrong there.
[21:51] <cryptodan> as it has worked quite well with others
[21:51] <cryptodan> k11 no I am not
[21:51] <lama2p00> I had bumblebee before
[21:51] <n0o0b> Ben64 - thanks
[21:51] <lama2p00> I'm on a GTX 870M
[21:52] <n0o0b> Ben64: I see 1.4.0 too on ubuntu.. don't think 0.8 is the latest..
[21:52] <k1l> cryptodan: dont compare linuxmint with ubuntu please
[21:52] <lama2p00> Bumblebee was giving me errors to xorg
[21:52] <k1l> lama2p00: yes, use nvidia-prime
[21:52] <n0o0b> Ben64: I think ubuntu perhaps skipped 0.9.x
[21:52] <n0o0b> Ben64 - thanks anyways
[21:52] <Ben64> n0o0b: where are you seeing 1.4
[21:52] <cryptodan> lama2p00: then add the following PPA to your ubuntu install and install updated drivers http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[21:53] <lama2p00> Edgers was a problem for me too
[21:53] <lama2p00> I had all that
[21:53] <lama2p00> it was giving errors
[21:53] <cryptodan> lama2p00: then your machine is having issues
[21:53] <lama2p00> no
[21:53] <n0o0b> Ben64: "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu  has libpcap.so.1.4.0"
[21:53] <cryptodan> lama2p00: like maybe hardware overheating or something
[21:53] <lama2p00> It works fine otherwise
[21:53] <lama2p00> nope
[21:53] <Ben64> lama2p0: you probably need edgers and nvidia-prime
[21:53] <k1l> lama2p00: please provide errormessages and logs in a pastebin please.
[21:54] <lama2p00> sec I have a thread from when I had bumblebee with the problem..
[21:54] <lama2p00> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252322
[21:54] <Ben64> n0o0b: what version of ubuntu are you on
[21:55] <OerHeks> n0o0b, trusty has Package: libpcap0.8 (1.5.3-2)
[21:55] <lama2p00> I believe my only issue right now it lightdm and gnome not playing well together.. no actual crashes or anything, just small freezes in windows and such
[21:56] <markus-j> i need some help to debug an upstart problem, my box does not boot up fully any more but stops after the first initial stage
[21:56] <markus-j> maybe i have nailed it down to mountall, but that is just a guess
[21:57] <markus-j> running mountall by myself (init=/bin/sh and opening a second tty2) makes upstart continue the boot process
[21:59] <markus-j> weirdly, the box boots without problems if i supply --verbose, but that is just a workaround ...
[22:01] <FreedomSlap> can Ubuntu run Internet Explorer?
[22:01] <k1l> FreedomSlap: try wine
[22:01] <Jordan_U> FreedomSlap: Old versions, yes. What is your end goal though?
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> End goal is to run the latest version of Internet Explorer, as it is my preferred browser.
[22:02] <OerHeks> FreedomSlap, sure, but we won't support that :-D
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> It's the most secure, stable, and fast
[22:02] <lama2p00> Thanks for the help guys.. I need to leave here. have a good day all.
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> OerHeks then you don't have to talk to not support that, do you?
[22:02] <OerHeks> FreedomSlap, join #winehq for support
[22:02] <nggafriedchkn> just a curious question guys, how does someone learn and understand to do these kinds of things: http://www.geekyboy.com/archives/664
[22:02] <OerHeks> !wine
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> OerHeks naw, WINE will just make IE unstable
[22:03] <Ben64> well IE will not run natively in Linux
[22:03] <FreedomSlap> I don't need to run natively
[22:03] <FreedomSlap> just need it to run
[22:03] <Jordan_U> nggafriedchkn: Your nick is not appropriate for this channel. Please change it or I will have to remove you from the channel.
[22:03] <n0o0b> Ben64: I am running the latest - 14.10
[22:04] <Ben64> FreedomSlap: you've already been given the information on how to do so
[22:04] <nggafriedchkn> how is my nick not appropriatte?!
[22:04] <FreedomSlap> Ben64 no I haven't
[22:04] <furkan> does anybody have information on how i can disable the unity online search from a config file? i'd like to push the config to a bunch of desktops automatically, instead of doing it from the GUI settings
[22:04] <Jordan_U> nggafriedchkn: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to discuss the appropriateness of your nick.
[22:05] <FreedomSlap> hey Jordan_U leave the guy alone he didn't do anything wrong
[22:05] <FreedomSlap> Jordan_U I think YOUR nick is inappropriate
[22:07] <kln2d>  /server chat.freenode.net
[22:09] <metaldog> easy. anyone know if there is a peppermint os help room in xchat anywhere?
[22:09] <DMRadford> having some trouble with bash scripts. I have startup.sh with some code in /home/ubuntu. From the terminal, if I type "/home/ubuntu/startup.sh" it runs fine. However when I try to run "sudo /home/ubuntu/startup.sh", it just hangs and won't run my script.
[22:10] <k1l> metaldog: ask alis or see the peppermint site
[22:11] <metaldog> haha, nice one. now why didn't i think of that, lol
[22:11] <k1l> !alis > metaldog
[22:12] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: Please pastebin your startup.sh, also note that you should try to run commands as root only when it is both needed, and known to be safe.
[22:13] <DMRadford> http://paste.debian.net/131486/
[22:13] <DMRadford> I'm trying to get it to run via rc.local at boot
[22:13] <DMRadford> I've also tried it with dictating "/usr/bin/java" as well, same results
[22:14] <onla> whats da chinese ubuntu channel
[22:14] <Jordan_U> !cn | onla
[22:14] <onla> ty
[22:15] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: What are /home/ubuntu/loki.jar and /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender?
[22:15] <DMRadford> loki.jar is a render farm manager software, blender is the blender program file used for rendering (fed as a variable into loki.jar)
[22:16] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: Why does loki.jar need to be run as root? Is loki.jar a program that was written to be safely run as root?
[22:16] <dawn_star> oh whoops I'm in sluguntu
[22:18] <swair> any idea how large is task_struct in 64 bit kernel?
[22:18] <DMRadford> Jordan_U, it's safe to be run as root. I actually don't care if it runs as root or not, I just need it to launch at boot. However from what I can tell, anything in rc.local is run as root
[22:19] <dlam> hmm im trying to make a generic user who can checkout stuff from github using SSH:  can i put like "global" IdentityFile rules in /etc/sshd_config ?   like i want every user who does `ssh git@github.com` to use the key at /etc/ssh/foobar.key
[22:19] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: su your_username -c /path/to/startup.sh
[22:20] <DMRadford> Jordan_U, this is running on an Amazon ec2 server, not a local machine. I need loki to start at boot so if I need 40+ instances, I don't have to SSH into each one.
[22:21] <DMRadford> Jordan_U, use that in rc.local?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: Yes. That will run the script as your user instead of as root.
[22:22] <DMRadford> Awesome! I think this might have just started working correctly!!!
[22:22] <DMRadford> Thank you Jordan_U
[22:22] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: You're welcome :)
[22:22] <DMRadford> Now to see if it holds true when I reboot the instance....
[22:23] <furkan> Jordan_U: any ideas for my unity search issue?
[22:24] <furkan> trying to search online but the only way to disable it that i can find is through the GUi
[22:24] <Jordan_U> furkan: No, sorry.
[22:25] <k1l> furkan: "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope', 'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-musicstore.scope', 'more_suggestions-ebay.scope', 'more_suggestions-ubuntushop.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope']" "   should do
[22:26] <OerHeks> furkan, see http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/pro-tip-remove-product-suggestions-from-ubuntu-unity-search-results/ scroll down to 'for power users only'
[22:26] <cluelesscoder> so I'm not on my linux computer right now so I can't test suggestions, but I'm curious: what are people's methods for removing metapackages? the accepted answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/166803/how-remove-all-programs-from-a-meta-package is sort of scary, and I tried "aptitude remove <metapackage>" (after installing with aptitude) and it didn't work with xfce4; seems the dependencies...
[22:26] <cluelesscoder> ...were marked as manually-installed too and deborphan isn't working
[22:27] <k1l> furkan: and "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses remote-content-search none"  should keep all searches locally
[22:31] <richar> hi
[22:33] <gebruiker> anyone here using  Infinality font rendering?
[22:35] <furkan> k1l OerHeks thanks a lot guys!
[22:35] <OerHeks> furkan, have fun
[22:35] <entreri> hey there, I can't seem to find seamonkey package in the repo, does it still exist ?
[22:37] <Chuck_Norris> lo) i excuse me, but... i just can't believe it  -.-   https://github.com/Microsoft/dotnet
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Chuck_Norris: Please keep offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:37] <entreri> Chuck_Norris: that's great, now we will be able to write SystemD in .Net, perfect candidate !
[22:38] <Chuck_Norris> Jordan_U: i know i know, that's why i said excuse me :P
[22:38] <OerHeks> entreri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey points to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#official
[22:39] <OerHeks> entreri, the PPA's at the end are dead
[22:39] <Chuck_Norris> entreri: could be but, don't we keep doing offtopic -.-
[22:41] <Phillies> would connecting to a vpn from your laptop  stop you from getting incoming ssh connectioons?
[22:41] <Phillies> on your ip
[22:41] <bekks> Phillies: Most likely, yes.
[22:41] <Phillies> for some fucking reason i cant ssh to my box anymore   22 is open   and everything is same
[22:42] <Phillies> only diffrence is im on a vpn at the moment
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Phillies: Please watch your language.
[22:42] <Phillies> sorry
[22:42] <bekks> Disconnect from the VPN, and try again.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> Phillies: It depends on how you connect to the vpn, but often for security reasons you want to disallow any other local traffic when connected to a VPN. Many employers mandate this, and try to enforce it in their Windows based VPN clients.
[22:44] <Chuck_Norris> Phillies: if you want a PC in the middle of the connection you could do:  ssh -t user@local-server ssh user@remote-server  -.-
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Phillies: While you can obviously configure things differently in Ubuntu, you might want to consider if that's something that you actually want to do.
[22:46] <cluelesscoder> OK, I'm going to take my question about removing metapackages over to debian if nobody has any thoughts...
[22:47] <Phillies> i was just trouble shooting ivebeen ssh to my laptop when im at school for various things and over the weekend i got my laptop connecting online thru a vpn provider.  when i tried to ssh to my laptop today from school its not connecting.   even port scanningmy ip is saying operation attempted on somthing thats not a socket on 22       came home  laptop is still on and onlkine so i was jst tryin to figure out whats going on. only thi
[22:47] <Phillies> ng i could think of was that maybe the vpn was the problem
[22:48] <Marezz> Hello everyone
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: waht is your question¿
[22:48] <Marezz> Does anyone know if its possible to join multiple IRC servers from Pidgin or its limited by 1 server per account?
[22:49] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: see above, how do I completely remove metapackages? anyway asked it on debian which may be a better fit
[22:50] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: mmm... removing it by the name of the package isn't enough?
[22:50] <cryptodan> Marezz: it is possible
[22:51] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: apparently not (see that askubuntu link above); I did "aptitude install xfce4" and it installed dozens of packages; "aptitude remove xfce4" removed one
[22:51] <Marezz> cryptodan: Can you please tell me how? :)
[22:51] <cryptodan> Marezz: adding them via adding accounts
[22:51] <cluelesscoder> and autoremove won't get rid of them because apparently they were marked as "manually installed"
[22:51] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: and aptitude remove xfce4* ?
[22:52] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: didn't try that, but not all the packages began with xfce4...
[22:52] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: would prefer something cleaner; I don't think all the packages even have xfce4 in their name
[22:52] <Chuck_Norris> then, run; apt-get autoremove
[22:52] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: doesn't work, all packages were marked as manually installed
[22:53] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: I will try it again though... that is a good start
[22:53] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: still not really as thorough as I would like
[22:53] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: the short answer is - you can't
[22:53] <Chuck_Norris> i meant after:  aptitude remove xfce4*   then  apt-get autoremove, to remove dependences and others stuffs, did't work either?
[22:54] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: why hasn't some way been designed?
[22:54] <entreri> hey guys, why seamonkey is not in the repo ?
[22:54] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: because of dependencies
[22:55] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: what do you mean? pretty sure nothing I have depends upon xfce4-session except other xcfe4 packages...
[22:55] <k1l> entreri: it was back when in the lucid days
[22:55] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: I'll have to try it later but I'm reluctant to dive into screwing around without having a clear plan and thorough solution...
[22:55] <Marezz> cryptodan: Thank you very much, it works
[22:55] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: right, but how does apt know what you had before you installed the meta package
[22:56] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: ok, i know is not that clean, but, idk another way arround -.-
[22:56] <entreri_> hey there, I cannot find seamonkey in the repo, any idea ?
[22:56] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: so what do people do in practice? just live with more packages than necessary?
[22:56] <OerHeks> entreri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey points to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#official
[22:57] <OerHeks> entreri, the PPA's at the end are dead
[22:57] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: I guess the reason deborphan is not picking these up is because they are interdependent?
[22:57] <k1l> entreri_:  see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+publishinghistory enrole first message, it got removed because there was no maintainer
[22:57] <entreri_> OerHeks: thank you, but if they are dead, it is not very helpful
[22:57] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: you could keep track of what gets installed
[22:57] <OerHeks> entreri_, read again.
[22:58] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: OK, I guess I'll do it the hard way...
[22:58] <Jordan_U> cluelesscoder: One option is to boot an Ubuntu LiveCD and run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", copy the list of packages that it proposes to install, then feed that list to "sudo apt-get remove". Has some risk of removing packages you do want, but it may help you.
[22:58] <OerHeks> entreri_, the ppa's at the end of the wiki are dead, go to the seamonkey site
[22:58] <entreri_> k1l: oh ok, that answers my question... thank you
[23:00] <cluelesscoder> so recommends are installed by default, and I could just take the list of packages inside the metapackage and feed that to remove... I guess I'll do that
[23:00] <cluelesscoder> although I guess I don't know which ones were not installed because they were already installed because they are necessary to some other program... hence the LiveCD approach I guess
[23:02] <cluelesscoder> I'm surprised someone hasn't come up with a script to automatically save what is installed by a metapackage and allow for it to be rolled back
[23:02] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: or you could just keep track of it :)
[23:02] <bekks> cluelesscoder: remove the meta-package and run "sudo apt-get autoremove" with caution. Done.
[23:03] <Jordan_U> cluelesscoder: That's essentially what autoremove does.
[23:03] <cluelesscoder> bekks: I installed xfce4, removed it, and when I run sudo apt-get autoremove it returns exactly 1 package
[23:03] <cluelesscoder> bekks: meanwhile, I have dozens of xfce4 packages
[23:04] <Jordan_U> cluelesscoder: You could also look at /var/log/dpkg.log to try to find the logs of what other packages were installed when you installed the xfce package.
[23:04] <Tex_Nick> Jordan_U: that brought to mind a question ... anyway to examine what autoremove will currently remove ?
[23:04] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: by piping it to a text file? not even sure the best way to keep track of it
[23:06] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: may be:  sudo apt-get install xfce4 > list.txt ?
[23:06] <Jordan_U> Tex_Nick: Yes, run "sudo apt-get autoremove" (you don't need to accept it).
[23:07] <Tex_Nick> Jordan_U: I'm banging my head on the wall ... sorry for a stupid question LOL
[23:15] <Randy_O> are the times for the UOS in UTC?
[23:21] <Apachez> Loshki: got any tips regarding speed improvements?
[23:22] <Chuck_Norris> Apachez:  making you kernel use less swap
[23:22] <Apachez> laptop with AMD Quad-Core A10-5745M cpu and AMD Radeon R7 M260 for graphics
[23:22] <Apachez> 1920x1080 desktop
[23:22] <Apachez> reaaaaaaally slow in ubuntu 14.10 with fgxlr driver (from ubuntu)
[23:23] <Apachez> that is with x11vnc
[23:23] <Apachez> went somewhat better with scale 4/5 but still :S
[23:23] <Apachez> so im obviously missing something here?
[23:23] <Apachez> tried ultravnc aswell as viewer so tight can be used
[23:25] <unscarred> good evening
[23:25] <slimjimflim> hi, does anyone know the best way to install ffmpeg on 14.04?  i just read, to my dismay, that "
[23:26] <slimjimflim> 14.04 no longer offers the counterfeit, so-called "ffmpeg". You can simply download a Linux build of ffmpeg (just download, extract, and execute; no installing needed) or follow a step-by-step guide to compile ffmpeg.
[23:26] <Chuck_Norris> Apachez: ubuntu has a remote server called "vino" try that one, type "remote" in the dash
[23:26] <slimjimflim> "  ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219550
[23:26] <k1l> slimjimflim: use avconv
[23:26] <slimjimflim> k1l: what happened to ffmpeg?
[23:27] <k1l> slimjimflim: the ffmpeg crew split in half, one is stll ffmpgeg and one is avconv. debian and ubuntu choosed to use avconv.
[23:27] <slimjimflim> k1l: i see.  i am sad.  thanks.
[23:28] <k1l> slimjimflim: no need to be sad. just use avconv, the commands should work the same
[23:28] <slimjimflim> k1l: k, do you know the package name?
[23:28] <slimjimflim> libav-tools?
[23:29] <k1l> yes
[23:29] <slimjimflim> k ty
[23:29] <unscarred> lol
[23:31] <Apachez> Chuck_Norris: does it support reverse connection of current session?
[23:32] <OerHeks> !info gitso
[23:38] <jotterbot> 14.04.1 can someone help me setup raid from scratch?
[23:38] <jotterbot> raid1
[23:44] <area51pilot> i have a new 14.10 install an ASUS flip and Bluetooth is disabled, its an Intel N6235 combo card, wifi works but no BT ... any idea on how to enable? Its not hardware/software blocked