ScottK | Riddell: Can you go to the release schedule planning session at 1600 UTC tomorrow? I'm not available. | 00:03 |
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soee | good morning | 07:18 |
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lordievader | Good morning | 08:36 |
soee | hey :) | 08:37 |
lordievader | Hey soee, how are you? | 08:37 |
soee | lordievader: waiting for my yerba dring to be ready :) sleepy day it is, you ? | 08:38 |
lordievader | soee: Yerba dring? Doing good here :) | 08:40 |
soee | lordievader: yeah http://www.mokate.com.pl/centrum-prasowe,loyd-yerba-mate,54,227.html | 08:41 |
soee | i do not dring coffee so i have some replacement :) | 08:42 |
soee | s/dring/drink | 08:42 |
lordievader | Check ;) | 08:42 |
* bkerensa drive by hugs valorie | 08:54 | |
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Riddell | shadeslayer: what happened at bluez talk? | 10:07 |
Riddell | ScottK: I don't suppose you can see why plasma isn't transitioning? | 10:20 |
Riddell | kwrited is the issue I can see | 10:20 |
Riddell | but I've no idea what's wrong with it, I removed kwrited-data and it shouldn't be needing it any more | 10:20 |
Riddell | apachelogger: kdeplasma-addons merged | 10:40 |
apachelogger | thanks all green now | 10:40 |
Riddell | sgclark: remember to make commits to kubutnu_vivid_archive branch rather than master (make them in master too if you want but mostly I'm leaving debian merging up to debian people) | 10:40 |
Blizzz | is it me? dependency issues on upgrading. http://paste.kde.org/psdxjgdhy | 10:51 |
Naproxeno | Hello everyone. I was going to ask the very same question. Package kubuntu-desktop is broken for me after the last update to backports PPA: http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2014/kubuntu-kde-plasma-5-1-1-utopic-backport-ready-and-other-news/. | 10:51 |
Blizzz | I am on Plasma 4 yet | 10:52 |
Riddell | wibble | 10:52 |
Riddell | Blizzz: on utopic/14.10 ? | 10:52 |
Blizzz | Riddell: yes | 10:52 |
Naproxeno | (me too) | 10:52 |
Riddell | Blizzz: and what are you upgrading from and to? | 10:52 |
Riddell | Naproxeno: same question ↑ | 10:53 |
Blizzz | Riddell: with backports and kubuntu ppa | 10:53 |
Naproxeno | Riddell: Exactly. Same situation. | 10:53 |
Riddell | oh she's put it into backport when it should be in next I guess | 10:53 |
Riddell | Blizzz, Naproxeno: do you want/expect plasma 5? | 10:54 |
Blizzz | Riddell: full output http://paste.kde.org/pry9wpv46 | 10:54 |
Naproxeno | Riddell: plasma-desktop wants to be updated to 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 | 10:54 |
Riddell | Naproxeno: right, but did you want or expect that? | 10:55 |
Naproxeno | Ridell: I didn't want Plasma 5 but I thought I could update *only* plasma to 5 | 10:55 |
Blizzz | Riddell: i want to stay at Plasma 4 | 10:55 |
Blizzz | … production/work machine | 10:55 |
Riddell | right | 10:55 |
apachelogger | ehm | 10:56 |
Naproxeno | Ridell: I think now I can't have neither a working Plasma 5 (missing essential packages) nor Plasma 4 (broken packages) | 10:56 |
apachelogger | that should go to next not backports | 10:56 |
apachelogger | or well, next-backports (which I'd find stupid) | 10:56 |
Riddell | apachelogger: I guess I'll delete the plasma5 packages from there, what do you think | 10:57 |
Riddell | ? | 10:57 |
apachelogger | Riddell: yes | 10:58 |
apachelogger | also put out an advisory somewhere ... people should ppa-purge to recover from an upgrade | 10:58 |
apachelogger | somewhat unfortunate this is | 10:59 |
Naproxeno | Riddell, apachelogger: I've updated plasma-desktop already, which removed kubuntu-desktop and many essential "KDE 4" (I know, wrong terminology). Any tip on how to recover? I don't mind being a guinea pig if you need one. | 11:00 |
apachelogger | [11:58:51] <apachelogger> also put out an advisory somewhere ... people should ppa-purge to recover from an upgrade | 11:01 |
apachelogger | in your case that'll probably be ppa-purge && apt install kubuntu-desktop | 11:02 |
Naproxeno | apachelogger: Thank you very much and apologies for the impatience. This is my work machine... | 11:03 |
Riddell | Naproxeno: appologies for the problem | 11:04 |
apachelogger | one would advise to not run backports on a workmachine, and only run dist-upgrade after careful review of the intended changes :P | 11:05 |
Riddell | one would but where's the fun in that? | 11:05 |
Blizzz | apachelogger: backports served me well in the past, but i am careful what i dist-upgrade :) | 11:05 |
Naproxeno | Riddel: No worries! I know how hard the life of a developer is and you do this for us so thank you! | 11:05 |
apachelogger | that's why I run unstable CI builds that break my system every 4 hours xD | 11:06 |
Naproxeno | apachelogger: You're completely right but I don't mind "learning" the hard way. :-) | 11:06 |
apachelogger | also, background auto-upgrades, so I don't know when my system was flipped over | 11:06 |
apachelogger | it's like a package lottery | 11:06 |
apachelogger | xD | 11:06 |
Blizzz | package roulette | 11:07 |
apachelogger | hah, yeah | 11:07 |
Riddell | packages removed, I wonder which ones need to be recreated | 11:08 |
soee | Riddell: are you going to move 5.1.1 (14.10) to Kubuntu Next ? | 11:10 |
Riddell | soee: maybe later but for now we need to fixup backports with plasma 4 | 11:10 |
soee | ok :) | 11:10 |
Naproxeno | apachelogger: lol. I still have a lot to learn about the Debian package system but broken packages (and asking how to fix them when I can't) must not intefere with fun. Once more, thank you for you work! I probably wouldn't have a Kubuntu to install in the first place without it. :-) | 11:11 |
apachelogger | Riddell: were there plasma4 backports in there? | 11:11 |
apachelogger | for utopic | 11:11 |
Riddell | apachelogger: oh good point, no there were not | 11:11 |
Riddell | only telepathy | 11:12 |
Riddell | ok so i'll leave it up to sgclark to put 5.1.1 in kubuntu-ppa/next for utopic | 11:14 |
Riddell | Naproxeno, Blizzz: is ppa-purge working? | 11:15 |
Blizzz | Riddell: i did not upgrade, so I guess and update should work for me? | 11:16 |
Blizzz | Riddell: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_kubuntu-ppa_backports_ubuntu_dists_utopic_* && apt-get update does the job. I want to keep kde telepathy 0.9 | 11:19 |
Riddell | Blizzz: yes although I'm not sure how long it takes for the packages to disappear after I run the delete command so do check they've gone | 11:19 |
Naproxeno | Naproxeno: I'm on it. It has finished running just now. I'm going to install kubuntu-desktop next. | 11:19 |
Blizzz | Riddell: plain update did not, or I would have needed to wait longer | 11:19 |
Riddell | Naproxeno: what command did you run? | 11:23 |
beluga_ | Hi from the LibreOffice QA team. Can anyone reproduce this bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83053 (easy to test) | 11:24 |
ubottu | Freedesktop bug 83053 in Presentation "UI: unable to modify styles due to window not drawn" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:24 |
Riddell | hi beluga_ | 11:24 |
Naproxeno | Riddell: sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports; sudo apt-get update (just in case); sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 11:26 |
Riddell | beluga_: I can't follow the steps to recreate (but also I'm on plasma 5 which doesn't use the oxygen style so it may not be valid) | 11:27 |
beluga_ | Riddell: yep. It might not be reproducible | 11:27 |
beluga_ | maybe specific to the reporter's set up & hardware.. | 11:27 |
beluga_ | if you guys are feeling adventurous, here is a search that shows all unconfirmed bugs with "kubuntu" either in the summary or in some comment (15 bugs): https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&f1=short_desc&f2=longdesc&j_top=OR&list_id=493104&o1=substring&o2=substring&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&v1=kubuntu&v2=kubuntu | 11:28 |
Riddell | beluga_: I'm installing kubuntu 14.04 now, will test when that's done in a minute | 11:28 |
Riddell | wibble | 11:29 |
beluga_ | wobble | 11:29 |
beluga_ | the LibO QA team has been working like a pack of monomanic squirrels and the bug tracker is starting to get quite clean | 11:31 |
Naproxeno | Riddell: Everything seems fine on first look. kscreensaver wasn't installed but I guess I installed it manually back in the day. | 11:32 |
Riddell | beluga_: here at kubuntu we're all busy moving from KDE Plasma 4 to Plasma 5 so I guess less focus on the finer details, currently I can't work out why libreoffice doesn't use the kde oxygen style when running under plasma 5 | 11:33 |
beluga_ | Ridell: ok I'll make a note to ask about Plasma 5 on the QA channel and maybe test it myself in a VM or something later | 11:34 |
beluga_ | I have Manjaro KDE on a laptop and Plasma 5 is already in their "testing" update channel since 3 weeks so next up is stable | 11:38 |
Riddell | hmm, another variant of arch | 11:39 |
Riddell | one day I'll look at arch and see what makes it so popular | 11:39 |
beluga_ | I wanted rolling and it has been great :) | 11:41 |
Riddell | beluga_: 'choose the "Modify style" on the menu' is that Edit Style in the right click menu? | 11:44 |
beluga_ | Riddell: yes that's one way to get it | 11:46 |
Riddell | beluga_: working fine on kubuntu 14.04 in virtualbox | 11:46 |
Riddell | which does use the kde oxygen style | 11:46 |
beluga_ | Riddell: which version of LibO? | 11:46 |
Riddell | 4.2.4 | 11:47 |
Riddell | package version 1:4.2.4-0ubuntu2 | 11:47 |
beluga_ | Riddell: ok that actually matches the reporter's version.. thanks, I will comment to the report :) | 11:48 |
Riddell | beluga_: I also can't reproduce on kubuntu development version using libreoffice 4.3.2, but that's without the kde oxygen style as I say | 11:57 |
Riddell | which I think it a likely culprit for the reporter's problem | 11:57 |
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soee | Riddell: correct me ig my anserw is invalid https://plus.google.com/115409429955408963270/posts/8ruyrfhJ4CE | 12:20 |
BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 12:23 |
soee | hiho BluesKaj | 12:24 |
BluesKaj | hey soee | 12:24 |
Riddell | soee: looks good thanks, you can also give them this command to tidy it up sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 12:24 |
soee | ok, ill update it | 12:25 |
apachelogger | wgrant: if I requestDeletion() will the status flip away from published somewhat immediate or only when the next publisher run is? | 12:28 |
wgrant | apachelogger: Immediately. | 12:29 |
apachelogger | thanks | 12:30 |
sgclark | morning, ugh I guess I made a mess sorry | 12:39 |
soee | :) | 12:41 |
Riddell | oh hi sgclark | 12:41 |
Riddell | sgclark: not much I don't think most people have backports enabled for utopic | 12:41 |
Riddell | sgclark: we hadn't discussed where plasma5 backports should go but I think we now know it should go to next and not backports ppa :) | 12:42 |
Riddell | sgclark: are you able to put it into next? | 12:42 |
sgclark | lol yeah | 12:42 |
sgclark | Riddell: yep, will do that now | 12:42 |
soee | sgclark: also update blog post :) | 12:42 |
sgclark | soee: oh yes right! ty | 12:43 |
ScottK | Riddell: I think it's libkscreen related. | 12:43 |
ScottK | Look at it on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt | 12:43 |
ScottK | powerdevil too. | 12:44 |
Riddell | ScottK: mm right | 12:44 |
Riddell | okular depends on libkscreen1 | 12:44 |
Riddell | ScottK: why do you think it's powerdevil? | 12:50 |
ScottK | It's not migrating, but it may be disconnected from the larger problem. | 12:51 |
ScottK | I suspect though that it'll end up causing a problem with kubuntu-desktop migration once okular is sorted. | 12:52 |
shadeslayer | brrr | 12:59 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: "emacsrookie (@emacsrookie) is now following you on Twitter!" | 12:59 |
shadeslayer | But I use vim! :D | 12:59 |
sgclark | lol | 12:59 |
apachelogger | :open twitter | 13:02 |
apachelogger | dG | 13:02 |
apachelogger | :wq | 13:02 |
soee | sgclark: with 5.1.1 updates package kwrited-data is ghoing to be removed - this is intended right ? | 13:03 |
sgclark | soee: yes | 13:05 |
soee | sgclark: ok nice, though there was message, something like: dpkg: kwrited-data: problems with dependencies, removing by request: kwrited depends on kwrited-data (= 4:5.1.0.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1). | 13:08 |
sgclark | Riddell: ^ you made that change :) | 13:09 |
Riddell | that should be fine | 13:09 |
Riddell | beginning to wish I hadn't now, seems more hassle than it's worth :( | 13:09 |
soee | ok but teh whole upgrade dinished without further errors | 13:11 |
soee | reboot | 13:11 |
soee | im back :) all seems to work just fine | 13:19 |
soee | though, there was some update last days to kdm i think, after it was upgraded it was set as default, now if i try to switch to sddm it does not loads | 13:20 |
Riddell | apachelogger: can you update https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext ? | 13:21 |
Riddell | some confused people in #kubuntu | 13:21 |
apachelogger | valorie: ^ | 13:21 |
apachelogger | how many pages are there with duplicate dinformation? | 13:21 |
apachelogger | valorie, Riddell: maybe we should just make a page commonuity.kde.org/Kubuntu/PlasmaNext and link there from everywhere else | 13:22 |
Antisound | hi folkz! | 13:31 |
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Mirv | plasma-desktop (still in proposed) seemed to start up fine :) other than that I didn't find away to show the bottom panel on both displays. | 13:50 |
soee | Mirv: the same panel ? | 13:51 |
Mirv | soee: yeah, the same panel | 13:52 |
Mirv | I thought there might be an option "show on all displays" or such. | 13:52 |
soee | nope i think i loked for it to, i ended up with 2 separate | 13:52 |
Mirv | right, I could try that next time | 13:52 |
soee | and in Plasma 5.1.0 on each reboot they were moved to the same screen, now in Plasma 5.1.1 seems to be fine, but have to test it more | 13:53 |
Riddell | apachelogger: yeah | 14:04 |
Riddell | ScottK: new owncloud uploaded for trusty-proposed for bug 1384355 awaiting approval | 14:04 |
ubottu | bug 1384355 in owncloud (Ubuntu) "ownCloud should be removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384355 | 14:04 |
Riddell | thanks for testing Mirv | 14:10 |
Riddell | Mirv: I'm upload okular without old kscreen dependency so hopefully that'll help it move out of proposed | 14:10 |
Riddell | Mamarok: you're not coming to munich? shall I take you off https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich ? | 14:14 |
Riddell | shadeslayer, allee, apachelogger, ovidiu-florin, yofelL yous all coming to munich? | 14:15 |
ovidiu-florin | yes | 14:22 |
Riddell | awooga | 14:23 |
Riddell | hi Antisound | 14:23 |
apachelogger | yes | 14:23 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: will you ? | 14:23 |
Riddell | sure | 14:24 |
ovidiu-florin | great :D:D | 14:27 |
soee | any idea if firefox for devs will land in ubuntu ? | 14:29 |
Antisound | hi Riddell | 14:30 |
Antisound | Riddell: where's my daily live build from plasma 5.1.1 ;-) | 14:30 |
Antisound | hehe | 14:30 |
Riddell | Antisound: not yet I'm afraid, something is blocking plasma-desktop from going into the archive and I'm not sure what | 14:33 |
Antisound | Riddell: ok | 14:37 |
Antisound | already thought there's something like this cause the status is unchanged for about 2 days i think | 14:38 |
Mamarok | Riddell: no, unfortunately I will not be able to come, please take me off that list | 14:38 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: yep | 14:45 |
yofel | Riddell: yep | 14:58 |
Riddell | ScottK: sddm in New queue should you be lacking for things to do | 15:08 |
Tm_T | I assume this is fixed/in the pipeline? https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20141113-1.txt | 15:12 |
Riddell | nope, not see than | 15:13 |
Riddell | apachelogger: kubuntu_vivid_archive made in kde-extras/qtcurve | 15:30 |
Riddell | apachelogger: the debian and kubuntu packaging seem to be unrelated | 15:30 |
apachelogger | fun | 15:33 |
apachelogger | Riddell: do we actually do a multibuild for qt5 or is that a separate source? | 15:33 |
Riddell | apachelogger: seems to be all 1 source | 15:33 |
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sgclark | Riddell: I have to run an errand before the storm gets bad, what is top priority on the long to-do list? | 16:06 |
Riddell | sgclark: I guess put your backport into next | 16:12 |
sgclark | Riddell: I already did | 16:12 |
Riddell | oh rocking | 16:12 |
Riddell | submit receipts from akademy to canonical | 16:13 |
Riddell | I've been putting that off for days | 16:13 |
sgclark | Riddell: did that long ago | 16:13 |
sgclark | Riddell: okies I am off, if you come up with something just ping me, thanks! | 16:14 |
* Riddell out | 16:55 | |
valorie | either way is good for me - I'm atm staffing the KDE booth at USENIX/LISA | 18:27 |
sgclark | fun! how is the weather up there valorie? we have a fun little ice storm going on | 18:33 |
valorie | cold and sunny in Seattle | 18:41 |
valorie | unsure in Black Diamond -- the power was off for a whole day before I left to come here (Tue) | 18:41 |
sgclark | yeah very cold here | 18:41 |
valorie | lots of people still without power | 18:41 |
sgclark | ack | 18:41 |
valorie | I think my husband might spring for the gas-powered generator now.... | 18:42 |
valorie | I hope I don't come home to cold and dark | 18:42 |
sgclark | hehe | 18:42 |
sgclark | yeah that is no fun | 18:42 |
sgclark | it is way to cold for no power | 18:42 |
valorie | I guess one of the large branches of my birch tree came down | 18:43 |
valorie | :( | 18:43 |
sgclark | oh no :( | 18:43 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: piinng | 18:44 |
santa_ | sgclark: I sent a patch to kubuntu-devel a few days ago, did you see it? | 19:02 |
sgclark | no | 19:02 |
santa_ | sgclark: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2014-November/008910.html | 19:04 |
santa_ | what do you think? | 19:04 |
sgclark | umm I thought we stuffed all those dumb qml things back in. /shrug | 19:06 |
allee | If added okular to the affected pkgs by bug 1348384 | 19:18 |
ubottu | bug 1348384 in libspectre (Ubuntu) "evince and okular do not render eps files correctly resulting in a black background" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1348384 | 19:19 |
allee | I check b.k.o if it's already supported. Any kuubntu group I should subscribe to the LP bug? | 19:19 |
allee | Riddell: yes, I will be (well, I am) in Munich next week for the PIM & KUBUNTU sprint | 19:22 |
valorie | sgclark: did I already miss your session(s)? | 19:36 |
valorie | between the power outage and being here at usenix, I'm half out of every loop possible | 19:39 |
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Antisound | sgclark: how about the backport? | 21:28 |
Antisound | ahh i just saw on your blog | 21:29 |
Antisound | it's ready | 21:29 |
Antisound | :D | 21:29 |
* Antisound updates to 5.1.1 | 21:47 | |
valorie | ok, expo is closing, so if there are still sessions pending, I'll miss 'em | 21:49 |
Antisound | re | 22:10 |
Antisound | back on 5.1.1 | 22:10 |
Antisound | thx sgclark for your hard work | 22:11 |
sgclark | valorie: internet in and out here today, well more than usual. uos sessions all tomorrow | 22:28 |
rx | hi. i need the steps to upgrade from plasma stable in kubuntu 4.10 to plasma daily. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu is outdated (package kubuntu-plasma5-desktop no longer exists and i must be doing the steps in the wrong order because it doesnt work to just update plasma-desktop). thx | 23:06 |
shadeslayer | rx: sure it does | 23:18 |
shadeslayer | kubuntu-plasma5-desktop is a meta package anyway | 23:18 |
shadeslayer | so if you install the plasma 5 14.10 ISO and then add the ppa and upgrade | 23:18 |
shadeslayer | it should work | 23:18 |
shadeslayer | also, I'm heading to bed | 23:19 |
shadeslayer | niters | 23:19 |
sgclark | night | 23:19 |
rx | sgclark: you write a blog post about what im doing ;-) | 23:23 |
rx | wrote* | 23:23 |
rx | on kubuntu.com it says sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next || sudo apt update || sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop || sudo apt full-upgrade | 23:24 |
rx | in your instructions you skip the kubuntu-plasma5-desktop part | 23:25 |
sgclark | rx: hmmm? daily? not sure that I did. Let me look.. | 23:25 |
rx | and when i tried to do the same magic with daily (ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable) it didnt upgrade plasma-desktop and apt got confused | 23:26 |
rx | also, with the daily ppa, package kubuntu-plasma5-desktop wasnt found | 23:26 |
sgclark | I know for a fact I have NOT written about the ci because it is not ( in my opinion ) a good ppa for most people, aka it breaks, alot. it is unstable. | 23:28 |
rx | i can live with | 23:29 |
sgclark | rx: disable the ci ppa for now. then enable this https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next | 23:29 |
sgclark | rx: then go through the steps you read with kubuntu-plasma5-desktop | 23:30 |
sgclark | rx: after all of theat is complete and without error. you can add back the ci ppa, if you are positive you can live with the notion your system may break. | 23:31 |
rx | ok | 23:31 |
rx | i will give it a try | 23:31 |
sgclark | rx: when you use ci, if packages are broken, wait a few hours and try to update again until resolved | 23:31 |
apachelogger | breakage potential to be reduced tomorow | 23:31 |
sgclark | rx: and don't reboot with broken packages | 23:32 |
sgclark | woot apachelogger | 23:32 |
rx | i used to build from source from time to time but i like the idea of daily builds | 23:32 |
sgclark | rx: ok cool, well first get a working next install, then you can ci all you want | 23:33 |
apachelogger | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-daily | 23:33 |
sgclark | oh nice | 23:33 |
apachelogger | gets populated from the live ppa if everything built to >=unstable and installs properly | 23:34 |
rx | oh | 23:34 |
sgclark | nice :) | 23:34 |
rx | will heppen soon? | 23:35 |
rx | happen* | 23:35 |
sgclark | rx: tomorrow we hope | 23:36 |
rx | i will wait | 23:36 |
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