| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/appdev-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/13/%23ubuntu-uds-appdev-1.html | ||
| === nik90_ is now known as nik90 | ||
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | Ubuntu UI Toolkit roadmap: What's new and what's planned? | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22357/ubuntu-qml-components-whats-new-whats-planned-and-what-else-do-you-want-to-know/ | ||
| popey | t1mp: you're all set for this session? | 14:02 |
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| t1mp | can people see us? | 14:03 |
| mhall119 | says "starting soon" | 14:03 |
| mhall119 | if you just started the broadcast, it takes a minute or two for the stream to catch up | 14:03 |
| t1mp | ok | 14:03 |
| mhall119 | ok, video is streaming now \o/ | 14:03 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: is Qt 5.3 binary compatible with 5.2? Or do compiled app need to be re-built? | 14:08 |
| t1mp | if you want to ask a question, please prefix it with QUESTION: (caps) so it is easier for us to see it | 14:09 |
| mhall119 | QUESTION: is Qt 5.3 binary compatible with 5.2? Or do compiled app need to be re-built? | 14:09 |
| * mhall119 should know better | 14:09 | |
| mhall119 | \o/ | 14:10 |
| t1mp | :) | 14:11 |
| SidPayton | The Video is not working on my Ubuntu. Neither on Firefox nor Chrome. Thought maybe someone is having the same problems | 14:11 |
| cheesehead | Video working great here | 14:11 |
| SidPayton | It's working on my Android device :( | 14:12 |
| nik90 | QUESTION: Is there a plan to include helper test functions to perform actions like clicking header buttons (interacting with other sdk components etc) in Ubuntu.Test? | 14:13 |
| nik90 | t1mp, zsombi: Well I was recommended by other unity8 developers to use QML test suites for the clock app. As such I have started created helper functions for these. | 14:18 |
| anatoli | wasn't there a distinction saying what to do with which kind of tests? ie. unit tests for API, AP for UX | 14:19 |
| nik90 | QUESTION: Would the header and pagestack animation make its way into rtm? Or are we talking about the future vivid cycle? | 14:29 |
| * balloons watching and reading scrollback on test helpers | 14:34 | |
| mhall119 | zsombi: the camera is stuck on you, click your thumbnail to un-highlight yourself and let us see t1mp | 14:37 |
| t1mp | mhall119: I should have done that, I'll try not to forget | 14:37 |
| t1mp | my mistake | 14:37 |
| mauric | Q: WHAT ABOUT the HUB ? | 14:38 |
| mhall119 | it was all t1mp's fault :) | 14:38 |
| mhall119 | mauric: you mean HUD? | 14:38 |
| mauric | yes | 14:39 |
| mhall119 | mauric: they need design to figure out how it's going to be presented first, then they'll knowif the API needs to change or not | 14:39 |
| mhall119 | oh, easy theme overrides would be awesome! | 14:40 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: could we theme inner components also, like the header component inside a page or mainview? | 14:40 |
| mhall119 | QUESTION: could we theme inner components also, like the header component inside a page or mainview? | 14:41 |
| t1mp | mauric: sorry for skipping your question. I agree with mhall119 on the answer | 14:42 |
| mhall119 | t1mp: I tried to theme the Tabbar once, and I ended up having to duplicate a lot of components to get to it | 14:42 |
| mhall119 | I didn't have to duplicate theme components, I had to duplicate things like Tabs, because otherwise you can't set properties on tabbar because you don't have access to that component from within your app | 14:45 |
| anatoli | mhall119: what about bindings? | 14:46 |
| mhall119 | anatoli: what about them? | 14:46 |
| anatoli | mhall119: if you need to set properties on read-only components | 14:47 |
| t1mp | we almost covered everything we wanted to cover | 14:49 |
| t1mp | so if you have more questions, shoot! | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | anatoli: it's not that it was read-only, it's that it wasn't exposed, it was part of the inner workings of Tabs that i wasn't supposed to touch, but there was no other way to change it's style | 14:49 |
| anatoli | 6 minutes to prepare tea, 3-2-1 go :-P | 14:54 |
| mhall119 | thanks zsombi, t1mp | 14:54 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | Ubuntu UI toolkit questions and feedback | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22358/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-feedback/ | ||
| aquarius | hey zsombi | 15:02 |
| aquarius | watching the video stream :) | 15:02 |
| anatoli | big stuart is watching you :-P | 15:03 |
| * aquarius laughs | 15:03 | |
| aquarius | t1mp, should I write questions/ideas now, or would you rather I waited until zsombor has explained list items? | 15:05 |
| t1mp | aquarius: now is good | 15:05 |
| aquarius | ok, a few things | 15:05 |
| t1mp | aquarius: prefix with QUESTION so I find it easier if I have to scroll back later | 15:06 |
| aquarius | QUESTION: Page's "magic" handling of its child element is still really confusing; if I have one child element and it's a Flickable then everything works as expected, but what if I have two child elements? What if I have a Column which contains a button and then a ListView? It would be nice to explain the rules in detail and show how to do some common things. | 15:07 |
| aquarius | QUESTION: it would be lovely to see the upcoming roadmap as a list of things which are planned along with big green tick marks for whether they're done or not. This would help me to know that I shouldn't try using a component because you folks are going to completely change it a month from now :) | 15:08 |
| nik90 | zsombi: stop teasing us with those awesome listitems and release them already :P | 15:16 |
| aquarius | :) | 15:16 |
| * nik90 is impatient | 15:16 | |
| aquarius | stop teasing us and *write the documentation and get it published* and *then* release them. :) I think that no SDK components should count as released until the docs are also published :) | 15:17 |
| bzoltan | aquarius: do not be worried. All released APIs are stable and will stay stable forever. | 15:17 |
| aquarius | bzoltan, what, like the toolbar? that works but is deprecated, as an example :) | 15:20 |
| anatoli | aquarius: and for good reason. the ux is really bad… | 15:20 |
| aquarius | yeah -- I am not sure if things like UbuntuListView are just a fun hack or whether I should be using it because ordinary ListViews are Not The Way To Go. That sort of thing. | 15:21 |
| anatoli | *nod* I can see how it can be confusing unless you know some internals already | 15:22 |
| anatoli | (for the record, it's not a fun hack, but it's there because ListView cannot easily be extended short of extending/ patching Qt) | 15:23 |
| aquarius | anatoli, it is a bad UX, I agree. But http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.ToolbarItems/ should say "DO NOT USE THIS, USE TOOLS IN THE HEADER" in massive red writing at the top, and it doesn't. It even links to design guidelines! | 15:23 |
| aquarius | zsombi, agreed about theming (which is why I'm not using it). I do *not* agree about documentation. Writing docs ought to be, I think, as important as tests, for the SDK, because the SDK's not useful to app devs like me unless it's documented :-) | 15:25 |
| aquarius | anyway, let someone else ask questions :) | 15:25 |
| nik90 | QUESTION: (hoping this wasn't asked earlier) What's the ETA for theming documentation? I really would like to change the checkbox's color etc etc ...and don't want to create components for scratch just to do that. | 15:27 |
| nik90 | I sort of just jumped into this session few minutes back, so hoping I am not just repeating what others asked already | 15:27 |
| aquarius | t1mp, let me explain a worked example so you folks can suggest to me how I should build it. Imagine that I have a list (let's say, a list of people). I want to have a textbox at the top which filters the list, so when you type into the textbox the listview contents change to only those which match the text. If this were a non-Ubuntu app, then I'd anchor the textbox to the top of the page, and anchor the li | 15:30 |
| aquarius | stview to the bottom of the textbox and the bottom of the page. But what should I do in an Ubuntu app, which has its magical header? | 15:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | hey all | 15:31 |
| nik90 | hey akiva-thinkpad | 15:31 |
| aquarius | t1mp, at the moment I have a button in the header which shows the text box *in the header*, which works, but that feels like a hack :) | 15:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nik90, is there a link to the hangout? Or this one private? | 15:32 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: not sure, I just joined a few minutes ago | 15:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | same | 15:32 |
| * akiva-thinkpad had to do another session | 15:32 | |
| t1mp | do you guys want to join the hangout to ask questions? | 15:32 |
| zbenjamin | zsombi: how about the ColumnLayout with fillHeight: true | 15:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | t1mp, yes | 15:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I don't care though | 15:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | if they want questions here; I'm cool with that | 15:33 |
| bzoltan | aquarius: changes like the toolbar are something what initiated from outside of our team. | 15:33 |
| t1mp | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdcgbUk_7a5upwBXy3vbPs0-naVKCG7ia1nZpxMo9GrshU1-g?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:33 |
| t1mp | ^ you can join the hangout here | 15:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | erm? | 15:35 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: ? | 15:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | this doesnt seem like the hangout? | 15:35 |
| * akiva-thinkpad wonders if I'm in the wrong place | 15:35 | |
| anatoli | aquarius: how do you like this one? http://geraldfield.org/deprecatedToolbarItems.png | 15:35 |
| t1mp | akiva-thinkpad: we can see you | 15:35 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: we can see you lol | 15:35 |
| anatoli | no, it's a branch I just made :-) | 15:37 |
| t1mp | anatoli: ahhh... | 15:37 |
| t1mp | sorry I thought it was on the webpage like that now | 15:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahhhh | 15:37 |
| t1mp | ok, it should be the way anatoli made it :) | 15:37 |
| nik90 | anatoli: it should be in red :P | 15:37 |
| aquarius | I'd put it in a coloured box -- seriously, it is hard to over-stress this :) | 15:37 |
| t1mp | anatoli: feel free to create a merge request from that branch :) propose for merging into lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging | 15:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | okay I see it | 15:38 |
| akiva-thinkpad | wierd | 15:38 |
| anatoli | t1mp: there you go https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/deprecatedToolbarItems/+merge/241700 | 15:39 |
| t1mp | anatoli: you are christian? | 15:40 |
| aquarius | anatoli, http://screencloud.net/v/9hiq ? :) | 15:40 |
| anatoli | t1mp: I can't use the same name in kiwi :-) | 15:40 |
| t1mp | kiwi? | 15:41 |
| t1mp | anatoli: happroved | 15:41 |
| aquarius | zbenjamin, COlumnLayout doesn't have a fillHeight property? | 15:41 |
| zbenjamin | aquarius: it has a attachable property Layout.fillHeight | 15:41 |
| anatoli | aquarius: not doable. if you look at the merge request you'll see we only have this rtf-ish markup | 15:42 |
| zbenjamin | aquarius: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-layouts-layout.html#fillHeight-prop | 15:42 |
| anatoli | aquarius: unless you can find some markup that would… but I don't believe that's possible | 15:42 |
| aquarius | anatoli, bah, that sucks :) | 15:42 |
| * anatoli wonders if akiva lives on the sun | 15:43 | |
| aquarius | opacity should be good performance? the gpu can handle it directly as a layer. If it's not good performance then the Qt people need a poke :) | 15:53 |
| akiva-thinkpad | cool beans | 15:53 |
| aquarius | thank you zsombi t1mp zbenjamin anatoli | 15:53 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ;_; | 15:53 |
| anatoli | \o/ | 15:53 |
| zsombi | aquarius: any time dude :) | 15:53 |
| anatoli | thank you akiva-thinkpad :-D | 15:53 |
| nik90 | thxn for the session | 15:53 |
| nik90 | bye | 15:53 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :D | 15:53 |
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| aquarius | I would very much like to see a trivial example of a QML Ubuntu app which has an always-on-screen textbox at the top and a listview which scrolls, in a Page. :) | 15:56 |
| popey | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYd-hIWkkKd3hW0YYsh2lQgY3wwu2orw1YS9JqInYZ0FEBlX7g?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:59 |
| popey | ^^ docviewer app session hangout url | 15:59 |
| popey | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-docviewer-planning | 16:00 |
| popey | sverzegnassi & akiva-thinkpad ^ | 16:00 |
| popey | everyone welcome, of course :D | 16:00 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: not authorized to open | 16:00 |
| popey | oh.. odd | 16:01 |
| popey | just invited you | 16:01 |
| sverzegnassi | not working | 16:02 |
| akiva-thinkpad | scheduling conflict | 16:02 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYd-hIWkkKd3hW0YYsh2lQgY3wwu2orw1YS9JqInYZ0FEBlX7g?authuser=0&hl=en ? | 16:03 |
| popey | works for rschroll ... | 16:03 |
| popey | ok akiva-thinkpad | 16:03 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: you signed into evil google? | 16:03 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: oh, you talking about the hangout or the etherpad? | 16:04 |
| sverzegnassi | installing the hangout package | 16:04 |
| popey | \o/ | 16:04 |
| popey | you need to join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad/ to use etherpad | 16:04 |
| popey | sorry, I'm being dumb ☻ | 16:04 |
| sverzegnassi | Your membership is awaiting approval from one of this team's administrators. | 16:06 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: have pinged someone to get approved | 16:07 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: laptop crashed... | 16:08 |
| popey | ☻ | 16:08 |
| popey | aw ☹ | 16:12 |
| sverzegnassi_ | popey: can you resend the link ? | 16:12 |
| popey | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYd-hIWkkKd3hW0YYsh2lQgY3wwu2orw1YS9JqInYZ0FEBlX7g?authuser=0&hl=en | 16:12 |
| popey | sverzegnassi_: ^ | 16:12 |
| sverzegnassi | (witching pc) | 16:13 |
| swaveck | ppt | 16:13 |
| popey | https://www.calligra.org/ | 16:14 |
| sverzegnassi_ | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/calligra | 16:25 |
| popey | https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-office | 16:29 |
| rschroll | I' | 16:49 |
| rschroll | I've written a little PDF viewer based on JS and HTML, withrendering in Poppler | 16:49 |
| rschroll | Dunno if it's relevant, but I'm happy to share | 16:49 |
| rschroll | it's in Closurescrpt, though. (Sorry) | 16:49 |
| rschroll | https://github.com/rschroll/litex/blob/master/src/lt/plugins/litex-viewer.cljs | 16:49 |
| rschroll | plugin for LightTable | 16:50 |
| rschroll | (IDE) | 16:50 |
| rschroll | The other thing -- any questions about how I handled things for epubs, I'm happy to answer | 16:50 |
| popey | \o/ | 16:53 |
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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | Roundtable: Creating a Theming Standard for QML | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22319/roundtable-creating-a-theming-standard-for-qml/ | ||
| akiva-thinkpad | hey all | 17:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | !ping | 18:05 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: hey | 18:09 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nik90, hey | 18:09 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: do you need help setting up the hangout? | 18:09 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yah, | 18:09 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: can you create a hangout on air and invite me to it? | 18:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | sure | 18:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nik90, | 18:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gvsk6sdm7vbv7jcskfdtzngz2ea?hl=en-GB | 18:11 |
| nik90 | akiva-thinkpad: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe4kpp16_DF--MNvUAQYBytGfjfNHUlKC4GmkjwXaZvJlMIzQ | 18:13 |
| akiva-thinkpad | were on air | 18:14 |
| DanChapman | o/ | 18:15 |
| Letozaf_ | yeah I can see and hear you | 18:15 |
| nik90 | awesome | 18:15 |
| nik90 | feel free to join the hangout discussion at https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe4kpp16_DF--MNvUAQYBytGfjfNHUlKC4GmkjwXaZvJlMIzQ | 18:16 |
| jdstrand | yes! | 18:17 |
| jdstrand | I want to be able to theme :) | 18:17 |
| jdstrand | I'd like to be able to do more than choose light and dark themes. I'd like to in my app be able to set colors for the different components | 18:18 |
| jdstrand | ah, downloadable themes-- I'm less interested in that | 18:19 |
| jdstrand | fyi, saville allows changing the theme via /custom, so the sdk is capable of doing it at some level | 18:19 |
| nik90 | jdstrand: I have seen you trying to theme your application. Do you want to join the discussion? | 18:21 |
| jdstrand | well, really all I need are docs and there is a bug for that. I'll hop on if there is something I can contribute | 18:21 |
| ahayzen | blue! | 18:24 |
| ahayzen | colours here http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.UbuntuColors/ | 18:25 |
| nik90 | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qml-qt.html | 18:28 |
| gcollura | nik90, there's very little documentation about android theming (cyanogen theming engine), but almost everything is customizable, you can even override an app styling | 18:41 |
| nik90 | gcollura: can you join the hangout? | 18:41 |
| nik90 | feel free to join the hangout discussion at https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe4kpp16_DF--MNvUAQYBytGfjfNHUlKC4GmkjwXaZvJlMIzQ | 18:41 |
| gcollura | nik90, I can't right now sorry :/ | 18:43 |
| nik90 | gcollura: ah no worries, but good to know that android allows you to override pretty much anything | 18:44 |
| gcollura | nik90, one thing, if you're curious, you can download a theme apk from google play, unzip it and see how themes are defined :) | 18:45 |
| nik90 | gcollura: ah interesting..I will check it out | 18:45 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | Writing unit tests for qml applications | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22396/writing-unit-tests-for-qml-applications/ | ||
| akiva-thinkpad | thanks | 18:59 |
| dobey | is the stream not up yet? | 19:04 |
| nik90 | we just got on air | 19:04 |
| alecu | hello! | 19:04 |
| nik90 | hello :) | 19:04 |
| * balloons waves to everyone | 19:09 | |
| * dkessel waves back while arguing with drupal | 19:10 | |
| balloons | I hope you can see the code well enough | 19:11 |
| dkessel | nope | 19:13 |
| dkessel | ah. getting better. | 19:13 |
| dobey | i think youtube is lying about "720p" | 19:13 |
| dobey | either that or it really sucks at scaling up to 4K | 19:13 |
| dobey | blocks of a/v from nik90 seem to get dropped occasionally | 19:16 |
| dobey | again | 19:18 |
| alecu | QUESTION: what's your feeling regarding the reliability (or inversely, the breakability) of QML tests vs autopilot tests? | 19:26 |
| dkessel | +1 for TDD | 19:28 |
| dobey | it's the difference between unit tests and integration tests | 19:32 |
| dobey | qmltestrunner is for unit tests, and autopilot is for end-to-end integration tests | 19:33 |
| dobey | (and it's al-le-coo, not alex ;) | 19:33 |
| balloons | alecu, ohh sorry mate! | 19:33 |
| alecu | no prob :-) | 19:34 |
| dobey | even for something like calculator, you want an autopilot test to catch breakage for things like "user tapped on number 9, but app didn't see it" | 19:40 |
| mzanetti | dobey: you can do that perfectly fine with qmltestrunner | 19:41 |
| mzanetti | he'll show it now | 19:41 |
| balloons | I would agree qmltestrunner works, but the idea of modeling the user would push me towards running it with autopilot | 19:43 |
| balloons | still, I wouldn't argue against any developer with a test suite :- | 19:43 |
| balloons | for the calc, I would probably have some label interactions, swiping, and history | 19:43 |
| balloons | in autopilot tests that is | 19:44 |
| balloons | everything else I would probably leave in qml at a lower level | 19:44 |
| dobey | wlel, i think the qml tests when you click a button in the test, it just does clicked() directly, but i think autopilot doing a click on a button, goes through the system input layer; whilch is what i meant | 19:45 |
| dobey | i could be wrong, but i thought that's how autopilot worked | 19:46 |
| mzanetti | dobey: is testing the system input layer in the scope of the clock app? | 19:47 |
| mzanetti | or should there be a separate test suite for that? | 19:47 |
| * DanChapman thinks that's pretty cool to watch! | 19:47 | |
| balloons | there is an argument to be made for using OSK to input as well | 19:48 |
| dobey | mzanetti: not necessarily, but the calculator should provide the autopilot test that would be run by the systemwide smoke test suite | 19:48 |
| mzanetti | yeah. I think there should be an AP test suite for the OSK | 19:48 |
| mzanetti | but I don't think the clock app should fail because of a bug in the OSK | 19:48 |
| dobey | ie, the app should own the tets that drive the app | 19:48 |
| mzanetti | which is what happens with AP | 19:48 |
| alecu | nik90: great work on the testing of the clock app; surely it must be one of the better tested parts of our system. | 19:49 |
| dobey | nik90: it's probably failing due to mir | 19:49 |
| nik90 | alecu: thnx :) | 19:50 |
| alecu | balloons: nik90: mzanetti: thanks a lot for the session, it was very useful. | 19:51 |
| dobey | nik90: you can probably install xvfb on a phone and run under xvfb with no problem | 19:51 |
| balloons | oO dobey thinking outside the box | 19:51 |
| nik90 | dobey: ah interesting..I didn't think of that ..I can give it a shot | 19:51 |
| mzanetti | alecu: there's an unlimited amount of qmltests in unity8, in case you need more examples | 19:52 |
| alecu | mzanetti: good to know, thanks. | 19:52 |
| dobey | mzanetti: indeed. i wrote some of those too :) | 19:52 |
| nik90 | alecu: Unity 8 is a treasure house for qml test cases. I would highly recommend it too. | 19:52 |
| nik90 | I learnt a lot looking at them | 19:53 |
| mzanetti | nik90: ah... we forgot to mention that you can run qmltests in qmlscene | 19:54 |
| mzanetti | nik90: so you can manually execute the test plan in order to debug it | 19:54 |
| dobey | nik90: remember that the phone and emulator are confined, so if you want to run qmltestrunner and have it open up a connection to Mir with UI, it will probably fail, for the same reason you can't just run qmlscene for an app on the console over ssh | 19:54 |
| nik90 | mzanetti: but only if you comment out the test case code? | 19:54 |
| mzanetti | nik90: nope | 19:54 |
| mzanetti | nik90: every unity8 test case can be run with "make testSomething" but also with "make trySomething" in order to open it up in qmlscene | 19:55 |
| mzanetti | dobey: it works if you pass --desktop_file_hint=/some/file.desktop to qmltestrunner | 19:55 |
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| dobey | nik90: if the unit tests are included in the click package, you can maybe provide a secondary .desktop file and "app" in the manifest, which is to run the qmltestrunner tests, have it be NoDisplay=true, and do ubuntu-app-launch to run that "app" | 19:56 |
| nik90 | oooh cool | 19:56 |
| nik90 | dobey: ah that's probably it failed for me when trying on the phone..because of the confinement | 19:56 |
| mzanetti | note that the .desktop file needs to be located /usr/share/applications/ at the moment... still haven't managed to get greyback to fix that | 19:56 |
| dobey | yep | 19:56 |
| mzanetti | and you can also run qmlscene from command line by passing --desktop_file_hint | 19:57 |
| mzanetti | it'll run unconfined though... | 19:57 |
| * balloons encourages nik90 to scoop up all these nuggets | 19:58 | |
| balloons | I didn't know those desktop file tricks.. never thought about doing that | 19:58 |
| nik90 | balloons: I am copying these into a pad | 19:58 |
| mzanetti | the --desktop_file_hint is basically the replacement for bamf | 19:58 |
| balloons | RIP bamf <3 | 19:58 |
| mzanetti | not sure if it'll stay forever, or if we come up with something more clever, but for now (and the foreseeable future) it should work fine | 19:59 |
| dobey | an xvfb-but-mir would be nice to have | 19:59 |
| mzanetti | maybe exporting QPA_PLATFORM=minimal could help with that | 20:00 |
| mzanetti | for qt apps | 20:00 |
| dobey | so "mirvfb-run foo" | 20:00 |
| mzanetti | ymmv with that though | 20:00 |
| dobey | a virtual mir framebuffer would be nice for many other reasons too, though | 20:01 |
| dobey | such as to be able to run more complete tests in better confinement | 20:01 |
| dobey | not just for qml, but to run autopilot and other tests confined to that vfb, and have it be mir instead of x | 20:01 |
| balloons | dobey, that's a pipe dream to run outside of unity for instance, a seperate confined env | 20:02 |
| dobey | yeah. right now, the only way to do it, is the emulator | 20:03 |
| mzanetti | not so sure about that... I guess if you stop the session load the mirserver qpa (instead of the client qpa) it should work just fine | 20:04 |
| mzanetti | obviously you'll lose unity8's portion of the confinement | 20:04 |
| nik90 | dobey: In case you are interested in seeing the ouput of what I got the last time I tried running qmltestrunner on the phone, http://askubuntu.com/questions/515153/how-does-one-run-qml-tests-on-a-ubuntu-touch-phone | 20:10 |
| nik90 | this time around I will try your approach of having a dedicated desktop file just to run qmltestrunner. | 20:10 |
| nik90 | I am too sure about what needs to be changed in the manifest file. But I can look into this over the weekend and try out some stuff. | 20:11 |
| dobey | nik90: yeah, i think that's due to the wrapper that parses arguments like --desktop_file_hint on the phone | 20:12 |
| dobey | nik90: adding the qmltestrunner arguments after a "--" /might/ help, but not sure | 20:13 |
| nik90 | I will give it a try later | 20:14 |
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