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[13:59] <dbarth_> we're starting in 1 minute now
[14:02] <alecu> hello!
[14:04] <dbarth_> hi
[14:05] <dbarth_> you can ask questions during the presentation
[14:05] <dbarth_> and you can also join the hangout
[14:10]  * dbarth_ waves at marcustomlinson :)
[14:10]  * marcustomlinson \o
[14:12] <alecu> QUESTION: can you guys publish the url to the slidedeck?
[14:18] <alecu> QUESTION: what does the name "Repeater" mean in that example?
[14:18] <alecu> dbarth_: mardy: ^
[14:18] <dbarth_> alecu: the deck is at https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1_BnaAASynFES-kwHoiIh2e9V2nBpYak5h_vmLfAbSIA/edit#slide=id.g187887df3_20
[14:18] <dbarth_> i will also share it on the event page afterwards
[14:19] <alecu> thanks
[14:19] <alecu> ah, I understand about the Repeater now, I thought it was part of Online Accounts.
[14:19] <alecu> thanks too :-)
[14:28]  * alecu loves the Online Accounts API for Scopes
[14:28] <dbarth_> :) thanks alecu
[14:29]  * marcustomlinson me too! :)
[14:33] <tedg> mardy, Does the plugin UI have to be QML? Or just connect to Mir?
[14:34] <alecu> QUESTION: what's the security model for the Online Accounts Plugins? Is the QML run confined or in the same process as the Online Accounts main UI?
[14:36] <tedg> Specifically thinking about things like HTML UIs
[14:37] <tedg> That seems like a bug :-/
[14:38] <tedg> Cool, it'd be nice to make them confined and just rely on the Mir connection.
[14:38] <alecu> getting rid of the manual review sounds great, thanks for working on that.
[14:39] <tedg> That way we don't restrict app devs who might have a different toolkit already working.
[14:39] <dbarth_> tedg: yep, makes sense; it's coming soon, as mardy had just started a sprint on that very task
[14:40] <dbarth_> has just started
[14:40] <tedg> mardy, dbarth_, is there a diagram or doc on how it's expected to work in *the future* :-)
[14:41] <dbarth_> tedg: hmm, not really, but we could start from the detailed diagram in the presentation
[14:42] <dbarth_> you guys want to join the hangout at the end?
[14:42] <tedg> dbarth_, Eh, don't know that I have anything to add, just want to stay ahead of the changes.
[14:42] <dbarth_> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gtfwtxznvtczgp3nti4tcfy2vya
[14:43] <dbarth_> nw, we could interview alberto to draw that diagram update for ex.
[14:53] <alecu> I'm also using online accounts via the scopes API for the click scope
[14:53] <alecu> thanks guys for this session
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[14:57] <dobey> it's not oauth at all
[14:57] <alecu> thanks, cheers!
[14:57] <dbarth_> thanks mardy, marcustomlinson, alecu and tedg for contributing to this session
[14:58] <mardy> dobey: OK, my mistake
[14:58] <dbarth_> and dobey!
[14:59] <dobey> it's a password authenticated REST API which you can get a token from, and that token is compatible with OAuth 1.0a. so the signing requests side is the same as oauth, but the token acquisition is completely different
[15:00] <dobey> which is why we have the library and are storing things differently
[15:00] <popey> mihir: I'll paste the link
[15:00] <popey> mihir: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:01] <dobey> anyway, different session now :)
[15:01] <popey> kunal: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:01] <kunal> ok
[15:03] <kunal> I will come back, I need to change my laptop
[15:04] <DS-McGuire> lmao
[15:04] <popey> kk
[15:05] <popey> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-calendar-planning
[15:06] <mihir> hi WIP pad http://pad.ubuntu.com/DnXPSYyHVF
[15:06] <mihir> kunal: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:09] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: Are we only talking about it on the phone? Or are we talking about the tablet as well?
[15:09] <mihir> gventuri: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:10] <gventuri> mihir: still doing the email revew ;-)
[15:10] <gventuri> mihir: 5 minutes
[15:10] <mihir> gventuri: no issues, whenever you get time :)
[15:16] <popey> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-calendar-planning
[15:18] <SidPayton> QUESTION: Sorry for beeing of topic. Will there be a weather app session? Can't find it. I'm really burning to See the new design.
[15:19] <DS-McGuire> SidPayton, I can't see one for this week: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-13/
[15:24] <mihir> popey: re-joining
[15:26] <popey> gventuri: http://pad.ubuntu.com/DnXPSYyHVF
[15:33] <DS-McGuire> You need a license to sync with exchange? God damn...
[15:34] <DS-McGuire> What about getting events from an email?
[15:34] <DS-McGuire> popey, What about getting events from an email?
[15:35] <kunal_> DS-McGuire, Can you provide some example for the same ?, do you mean to parse email and create evnt ?
[15:36] <DS-McGuire> kunal_, Like this on the iPhone: http://www.imore.com/how-send-calendar-event-invitations-using-iphone-or-ipad
[15:37] <kunal_> DS-McGuire, thanks
[15:38] <DS-McGuire> kunal_, No problem :)
[15:39] <DS-McGuire> popey, Yes, and you can add it to your calender.
[15:40] <dobey> popey: calendar invitations have a special MIME attachment
[15:40] <dobey> MIME was developed and added to e-mail explicitly for such things
[15:41] <dobey> gmail sees the ical attachment
[15:42] <DS-McGuire> popey, using the content hub?
[15:43] <popey> thanks dobey
[15:43] <popey> DS-McGuire: perhaps, yes.
[15:44] <dobey> if you send yourself an event e-mail, you can see what evolution, thunderbird, gmail, etc all do for it
[15:44] <DS-McGuire> Nope, I am all out.
[15:51] <dobey> why not automatic? if you have location magic enabled in the calendar app, why not have location automatically show you "today is a public holiday"
[15:52] <dobey> don't add events to the calendar, but just have it be a separate calendar source
[15:53] <DanChapman> it would be cool to import ical/ics from dekko. We have it in place to export the attachments but no where to send them to atm
[15:54]  * dobey recalls his time of working on evolution
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[15:56] <popey> thanks everyone
[15:56] <popey> dobey: noted ☻
[15:57] <DS-McGuire> Thanks guys :D
[15:57] <didrocks> mhall119: want me to join this one?
[15:57] <mhall119> didrocks: if you can, I think you'd add valuable insight
[15:57] <mhall119> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeMQsFeC6JDpf1_tvsWfXh3L6DvrdFqpNLS8RuLpEMovXJZIQ?authuser=0&hl=en for anybody who wants to join
[15:57]  * didrocks remove the hl=en :p
[16:09] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/reference/packages.html
[16:15] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/index.html
[16:15] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/design/material/index.html
[16:15] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/index.html
[16:16] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html
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[17:54] <dholbach> popey, mhall119: is anyone of you guys going to run this one?
[17:54] <mhall119> I assume you are, since you're the creator
[17:55] <dholbach> ooooooook
[17:57] <popey> dholbach: not me.
[18:00] <dholbach> anyone wants to join the hangout?
[18:02] <dholbach> http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/cookbook/
[18:02] <dpm> http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/cookbook
[18:06] <dpm> https://djangosnippets.org/
[18:07] <dpm> https://djangosnippets.org/snippets/
[18:07]  * alecu looks
[18:07] <dpm> https://djangosnippets.org/snippets/10423/
[18:17] <dholbach> any more input from IRC?
[18:19] <dholbach> https://djangosnippets.org/users/adamlofts/
[18:19] <alecu> dpm: I see that djangosnippets.org is based on Cab: https://github.com/django-de/djangosnippets.org/tree/master/cab so, QUESTION: were you able to find out if forking from djangosnippets is better than just using cab?
[18:20] <alecu> I found out about that while checking if this would support syntax highlight in languages other than Python and HTML/css
[18:20] <alecu> (the answer is: yes, since it's using Pygments which supports way too many languages)
[18:22] <alecu> awesome that the devels are interested in us using it, and willing to help
[18:22] <alecu> sorry, the bit about pygments was not supposed to be a question :-)
[18:25] <dpm> np :)
[18:30] <dpm> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-appdev-1411-more-code-examples
[18:31] <alecu> I think it's a great idea. I've used the "Python Recipes" site hundreds of times, and having something similar for scopes and apps would be great.
[18:31] <dholbach> +1
[18:31] <dpm> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/
[18:32] <dpm> alecu, is it this one? ^
[18:32] <alecu> yes, that one
[18:33] <alecu> I don't know
[18:33] <dobey> did stream just die?
[18:33] <alecu> dobey: I still hear it
[18:34] <dholbach> guys
[18:34] <dholbach> do you want to join the hangout too? :)
[18:34] <dobey> it's back after reloading. i just suddenly got the fuzzy "an error occurred" screen
[18:34] <alecu> dpm: dholbach: on the other hand, more and more snippets in python are being posted in stackoverflow, which seems to have a nicer voting/comenting mechanism...
[18:34] <alecu> and stuff in stackoverflow always shows up first in google.
[18:35] <alecu> I mean, any stackoverflow result always shows up first.
[18:35] <alecu> so, it would be great if this had good SEO
[18:36] <dobey> SO's pagerank is funky, because there's like 10,000 SO sites, and they all link to each other :P
[18:36] <dobey> it's like a spam newtork that's actually helpful
[18:37] <dholbach> linkfarm.snippets.developer.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <alecu> lol
[18:39] <dpm> any more feedback/ideas?
[18:40] <dobey> all my ideas are crazy :)
[18:41] <dobey> if you want a site that has comments and voting and launchpad integration, you could just bring back brainstorm and fix up the theme :P
[18:42] <dobey> (see, it's crazy)
[18:43] <alecu> thanks guys for the session!
[18:45] <alecu> dholbach: something nice about the python recipes site: "Fork this recipe" in each page.
[18:45] <dholbach> nice one
[18:45] <dpm> oh, nice
[18:46]  * dholbach notes down in the pad
[18:49] <alecu> what I find nice about the djangosnippets is that there's a place for markdown... something that's missing in a recipe site like https://gist.github.com/ (where forking seems to be very well done, though)
[18:50] <alecu> dpm: so, if I had it my way, I'd like to have gist's forking capabilities, stackoverflow SEO and djangorecipes' flexibility :-)
[18:51] <dpm> dholbach, I think that sounds like alecu is volunteering to help in the project? ;)
[18:51] <alecu> dpm: to test it, sure :-) I can't commit time for coding, sorry :-(
[18:51] <dpm> np :)
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