| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/community-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/13/%23ubuntu-uds-community-2.html | ||
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Track: Community | Scope development how-tos | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22398/scope-development-how-tos/ | ||
| alecu | hello! | 14:59 |
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| marcustomlinson | hello | 15:00 |
| dpm | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeswqrUEsFk0DLnle-xU4bkb18rKMHWhuuUA8A9XE_6-SS_tQ | 15:03 |
| dpm | for whoever wants to join the hangout | 15:03 |
| alecu | The Unity Scope Tool is a real time saver when developing scopes (compared to the emulator or even a device). I highly recommend it. | 15:21 |
| dpm | indeed! | 15:21 |
| === Luke is now known as Guest60718 | ||
| Guest60718 | Is building scopes with Python as supported as in qt? | 15:27 |
| avoine | QUESTION: is it to soon to use the golang api for building scope? | 15:27 |
| dpm | thanks Guest60718, avoine, we'll get to your questions in a minute | 15:28 |
| pstolowski | Guest60718, python is not supported | 15:29 |
| pstolowski | avoine, Go is supported | 15:29 |
| pstolowski | avoine, we have go bindings for scopes api | 15:29 |
| alecu | QUESTION: how do you make the query refresh when a settings change? | 15:29 |
| pasimako | QUESTION: Can I skip preview and execute url link directly from query results? | 15:30 |
| thostr_ | avoine: see also https://godoc.org/launchpad.net/go-unityscopes/v1 | 15:31 |
| avoine | ok, thanks | 15:32 |
| avoine | QUESTION: Can you explain how you would build a permanent cache for things like images for example. | 15:33 |
| avoine | or even json | 15:33 |
| pasimako | thank you | 15:34 |
| dpm | fast food on the menu! | 15:34 |
| dpm | adding location to your scopes in 2 minutes :) | 15:34 |
| dslul_ | QUESTION: how can you change departments at runtime when, for example, a different filter is selected? | 15:34 |
| avoine | great thanks | 15:40 |
| belkinsa | Who is running the next session> | 15:51 |
| dslul_ | QUESTION: is it possible to manually change the selected department from code? | 15:51 |
| belkinsa | dholbach, which session are you going to be in? This one or the ISO one? And do you know who is hosting this one? | 15:53 |
| dholbach | belkinsa: no idea - I just pinged dpm about it :) | 15:54 |
| belkinsa | I saw | 15:54 |
| akiva-thinkpad | hey all | 15:55 |
| belkinsa | And there he is! akiva-thinkpad, are you hosting it? | 15:55 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-community-2 to: Track: Community | Creating better incentives to contribute to Ubuntu. | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22321/creating-better-incentives-to-contribute-to-ubuntu/ | ||
| akiva-thinkpad | belkinsa, would rather not; I'm a hosting newb | 15:55 |
| akiva-thinkpad | the session at least | 15:55 |
| belkinsa | Oh, okay. dholbach or dpm will do it for you. | 15:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | cool beans | 15:56 |
| alecu | bye! | 15:57 |
| avoine | great session, thanks a lot! | 15:57 |
| dpm | hi akiva-thinkpad, I'll start the session in a minute and give you the link | 15:58 |
| akiva-thinkpad | sounds cool | 15:58 |
| belkinsa | I guess i need to start it... | 16:01 |
| dpm | akiva-thinkpad, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcjXBa0llihbI2UJGrENRz4ChJKvxtUie4x7C0PCCrm3W6xKw | 16:01 |
| dpm | belkinsa, ah, just saw your message | 16:01 |
| belkinsa | Thanks | 16:01 |
| dpm | have you started a session already? Or are you joining that one ^ ? | 16:01 |
| belkinsa | No, I haven't | 16:02 |
| belkinsa | I was confused on who was going to do it | 16:02 |
| belkinsa | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcjXBa0llihbI2UJGrENRz4ChJKvxtUie4x7C0PCCrm3W6xKw | 16:02 |
| belkinsa | I'm in | 16:03 |
| belkinsa | Bah, stupid firefox | 16:03 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 16:03 |
| belkinsa | Go ahead and start it, I will join later, fi I can | 16:04 |
| akiva-thinkpad | irc good to go? | 16:05 |
| dpm | hi all, is the feed coming all right? | 16:05 |
| belkinsa | Feed is good and streaming | 16:06 |
| belkinsa | akiva-thinkpad, I think that is the common thing is that people do want to program | 16:08 |
| belkinsa_ | This seems to related to this session as Ali said: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22335/howto-to-use-your-skills-and-experience-to-find-a-job/ | 16:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yah I saw that | 16:11 |
| belkinsa_ | Ah, good. I was just checking | 16:11 |
| akiva-thinkpad | heh I sort of lamented this session after I saw that | 16:11 |
| belkinsa | There we are! | 16:14 |
| belkinsa | Here is one example of one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/belkinsa | 16:16 |
| belkinsa | Sorry, need to rejoin | 16:17 |
| cheesehead | Hall of Fame and Ubuntu Accomplishments fell into disuse for valid reasons. Any attempt to ressurect those should address those reasons | 16:17 |
| belkinsa | Bah | 16:19 |
| akiva-thinkpad | beklinsa | 16:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 16:21 |
| belkinsa | Sorry, I thought everthing was working. | 16:22 |
| toddcnb | a nice certificate of appreciation for loco's to use for greeters at events and places that offer meeting space or local contributions | 16:25 |
| cheesehead | toddcnb: Not clear to me - who is appreciating the LoCo? | 16:26 |
| toddcnb | we use schools and restaurants to host meetings and events I would like to thanks them in some-way also we have a lot of non tech people that help with lots of loacal events that I often forget to say thank you for their help | 16:29 |
| cheesehead | toddcnb: Ah, so LoCos do the appreviating. Yes, that works. | 16:29 |
| cheesehead | s/v/c | 16:29 |
| cheesehead | I generally see three types of positive feedback: Simple/automated, interpersonal/relationship, and formal | 16:30 |
| cheesehead | So far, we've talked about formal - the harest and most resource-intensive | 16:30 |
| toddcnb | if we had a nice official Ubuntu certificate for them to display | 16:31 |
| toddcnb | even business that promote Ubuntu would like that | 16:32 |
| cheesehead | toddcnb: I don;t see why a recognized LoCo can't knock something lovely together. Just as official no matter who drwas it | 16:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcjXBa0llihbI2UJGrENRz4ChJKvxtUie4x7C0PCCrm3W6xKw come join | 16:32 |
| belkinsa | Maybe the use of the LoCo with this peer to peer programing could give people reason to get their Membership. | 16:33 |
| belkinsa | And it could help the LoCo community grow. | 16:33 |
| cheesehead | belkinsa: Right. LoCos are an example of interpersonal/relationship incentive. | 16:34 |
| belkinsa | Some sort of LoCo Programing outreach program is what I have in mind but I think outreach may be the wrong word. | 16:36 |
| belkinsa | This is could be also tied with those programming lessons that dpm and the others are working on. | 16:36 |
| belkinsa | I think App development days or whatever they are. | 16:37 |
| toddcnb | many loco's like ours are mostly users few programmers but other loco's are able to assit programming projects | 16:37 |
| ali1234 | the UK loco channel is pretty technical but we don't do anything technical towards ubuntu | 16:38 |
| * cheesehead failed to join the hangout | 16:38 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | interesting | 16:39 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 16:39 |
| ali1234 | we all do our own things. the only thing UK loco people have in common is we live in the UK. many people there don't even use ubuntu | 16:40 |
| akiva-thinkpad | If you went to the loco; what do you want to see in regards to an event? | 16:40 |
| ali1234 | actually even that isn't true, plenty of people live abroad as well | 16:40 |
| ali1234 | "went" to the loco? | 16:40 |
| cheesehead | akiva-thinkpad: Many different kinds of events: Seimnars on topis, show-off meetings, installfests, bug sprints, etc | 16:41 |
| cheesehead | Going out and having coffee may be non-didactic, but it does build resume references. That's the networking part. | 16:42 |
| ali1234 | the UK loco is pretty much just an IRC channel with people who speak english in it | 16:42 |
| cheesehead | I know a couple people who got Linux jobs based on knowing people from a local user group. | 16:43 |
| akiva-thinkpad | interesting | 16:43 |
| akiva-thinkpad | really? | 16:43 |
| toddcnb | ubuntu hours are great to fix minor issues and chat with other linux users and show off programs and setups | 16:43 |
| cheesehead | Is there interest in ressurecting automated feedback/incentives like Ubuntu Accomplishments, or soes everybody just want to get a job? | 16:44 |
| cheesehead | Some of us already have non-technical jobs, and aren't interested in getting a Linux job. | 16:45 |
| ali1234 | gamification feels like a way to get people to work for free | 16:45 |
| ali1234 | maybe that's just me though | 16:45 |
| cheesehead | ali1234: Motivates some people, demotivates others. Not for everyone. | 16:45 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ha ha | 16:46 |
| akiva-thinkpad | true | 16:46 |
| belkinsa | ali1234, I agree and it doesn't really promote how good someone is | 16:46 |
| belkinsa | Wait, I can read. | 16:47 |
| toddcnb | installfests are very popular for our community | 16:47 |
| ali1234 | many of the old accomplishments weren't even automatic, you had get someone else to verify it | 16:47 |
| akiva-thinkpad | toddcnb, really? | 16:47 |
| belkinsa | gamification will promote getting people in but I think there should a way to prove how good people are. | 16:47 |
| belkinsa | In the skills. | 16:47 |
| toddcnb | akiva-thinkpad: yes we do two each month but could do 4-5 if we had help | 16:48 |
| belkinsa | Ali is applying | 16:49 |
| belkinsa | He just said that on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A22:00 | 16:50 |
| cheesehead | belkinsa: I think we can all agree that gamification is inappropriate for gauging skills and advanced recognition. But there may be a place for it for new entrants and initial contributions. | 16:50 |
| belkinsa | I agree with it being a place to get people into the Community and get them started. For there, because they learned the skills, they can maybe apply for the Membership or something like that. | 16:51 |
| belkinsa | But how will that get them a job in real life, buT can get my answer in Ali's session. | 16:51 |
| cheesehead | Instead of building new tools, perhaps we should look at existing tools - are we unintentionally giving null- or non-positive feedback to on-ramping contributors? | 16:52 |
| cheesehead | Learning to Triage bugs in the Bug Squad, for example, is not easy. A simpler on-ramp may help reduce their turnover. | 16:53 |
| belkinsa | cheesehead, +1 | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | triage is easy | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | just ask if they've tested on the most recent version and set the bug to incomplete | 16:54 |
| belkinsa | Maybe we need to reboot 5-A-Day or something like that | 16:54 |
| akiva-thinkpad | http://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev/ | 16:54 |
| cheesehead | belkinsa: But why do 5-a-day? What's the incentive? | 16:54 |
| belkinsa | Good point. | 16:55 |
| belkinsa | Never mind | 16:55 |
| belkinsa | Thanks for the session. | 16:55 |
| ali1234 | btw, the ubuntu-sdk is not something i have ever needed to use while contributing, and i don't see myself ever needing to use it | 16:55 |
| cheesehead | 5-a-day seems like a good candidate for gamification. | 16:55 |
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| akiva-thinkpad | :) | 16:56 |
| belkinsa | cheesehead, yes, but I think that is only for bugs, but could be moved to development/coding | 16:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, the sdk is still not complete either. | 16:57 |
| belkinsa | Could this help also: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ProjectHarvest | 16:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | oh neat | 16:57 |
| cheesehead | belkinsa: +1 | 16:57 |
| ali1234 | akiva-thinkpad: i only use xubuntu, i've no interest in QML app-dev or whatever it's supposed to be used for | 16:58 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, A performance hound! | 16:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :D | 16:59 |
| ali1234 | i have contributed to ubuntu platform components only to the extent that they are used in xubuntu | 16:59 |
| dpm | thanks everyone! | 16:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, qml is mainly for the phone which will eventually come out. | 16:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | the qml apps can work on xubuntu though | 16:59 |
| ali1234 | yeah, again, not interesting to me at all | 16:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 16:59 |
| * akiva-thinkpad finds the next session | 17:00 | |
| ali1234 | if you want me to contribute to that stuff the first thing you need to do is convince me to use it | 17:00 |
| ali1234 | but that will be difficult | 17:00 |
| cheesehead | ali1234: Okay, how do we convince you to use a certain tool? | 17:00 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, The pragmatism is strong with this one ~ | 17:00 |
| ali1234 | cheesehead: make it better than the others? | 17:00 |
| cheesehead | ali1234: So your only criteria is 'better'? | 17:01 |
| cheesehead | Not more convenient? | 17:01 |
| cheesehead | Or familiar? | 17:01 |
| ali1234 | yes, for my personal definition of "better"? | 17:01 |
| ali1234 | no, nothing to do with familiarity, i only switched to xubuntu a year ago | 17:01 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, well qml's main selling point will be touch inteface with the phone. Do you see yourself eventually getting an ubuntu phone? | 17:01 |
| ali1234 | no. | 17:01 |
| akiva-thinkpad | hmmmm | 17:01 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ubuntu TV? | 17:01 |
| ali1234 | no | 17:01 |
| akiva-thinkpad | hmmmm | 17:02 |
| ali1234 | i don't even have a TV | 17:02 |
| cheesehead | ali1234: If we don't know your personal definition of 'better', we cannot convince you of anything. So why would we bother? Do what you want. | 17:02 |
| akiva-thinkpad | good | 17:02 |
| akiva-thinkpad | tv's are evil time wasters | 17:02 |
| cheesehead | ali1234: It simply meant you're not a good consumer for the 'incentives' under discussion. You seem self-motivated. | 17:02 |
| ali1234 | yes, very much. really the only way to make me contribute more would be to write even more buggy code | 17:03 |
| * cheesehead writes that down | 17:03 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | ha ha | 17:03 |
| akiva-thinkpad | mental note: write more buggier code. | 17:03 |
| akiva-thinkpad | btw thanks for joining the irc chat; it made it a lot easier to run my first uos session. | 17:04 |
| cheesehead | akiva-thinkpad: Sure. Does this mean we can eliminate the get-a-job session later? We seem to have covered that ground. | 17:05 |
| akiva-thinkpad | cheesehead, doesn't matter to me. | 17:05 |
| cheesehead | akiva-thinkpad: Nor me. | 17:05 |
| akiva-thinkpad | although truth be told; I would have cancelled it if I had known that session was going on | 17:06 |
| * akiva-thinkpad grabs some pumpkin pie | 17:06 | |
| ali1234 | the reasons i prefer xubuntu involve a lot of things but largely: it is entirely designed for desktop, nothing else. it's a very small code base which is easy to learn all of, and it's a horizontal rather than vertical stack | 17:07 |
| cheesehead | ali1234: Xubuntu is nice. I used it for many years. | 17:08 |
| ali1234 | by which i mean it shares pieces with a lot of other projects, rather than being a custom UI with custom toolkit running on a custom display server, none of which is used anywhere else | 17:08 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, have you tried lubuntu as well? | 17:08 |
| ali1234 | so if i fix a bug in Gtk it doesn't just help xubuntu | 17:09 |
| genupulas | so here anybody can talk ? | 17:09 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, that is very true. | 17:09 |
| cheesehead | genupulas: Yes | 17:09 |
| akiva-thinkpad | genupulas, yep; | 17:09 |
| genupulas | ok | 17:09 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, so interestingly a developer from xfce was on linux unplugged podcast awhile back | 17:10 |
| ali1234 | i haven't really tried lubuntu, no. i might if they get some reasonable Qt release going | 17:10 |
| ali1234 | akiva-thinkpad: which one? | 17:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | he indicated that XFCE does need some contributors. | 17:10 |
| ali1234 | yeah, i know, i've mostly been working upstream | 17:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I can't recall | 17:10 |
| ali1234 | was probably nick | 17:11 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I'm not terribly familiar with xfce; but it was made out to seem that the developer community there was more enthuthiast as opposed to official. | 17:11 |
| ali1234 | absolutely | 17:11 |
| ali1234 | i don't think anyone anywhere is paid to work on xubuntu | 17:11 |
| ali1234 | er, xfce | 17:11 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, so that is interesting ; you contribute upstream to xfce? | 17:11 |
| ali1234 | well, either really | 17:11 |
| akiva-thinkpad | heh | 17:11 |
| ali1234 | i contribute upstream to all projects | 17:12 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, o_O | 17:12 |
| ali1234 | i've patches in the kernel, gtk, more stuff than i can remember | 17:12 |
| akiva-thinkpad | wow | 17:12 |
| ali1234 | when i hit a bug and it affects me, i fix it | 17:12 |
| akiva-thinkpad | what are you working on these days? | 17:12 |
| ali1234 | hence, i fix what i use | 17:12 |
| ali1234 | last thing i sent a patch for was xfce task manager | 17:13 |
| ali1234 | that was for a bug found in xubuntu testing | 17:14 |
| akiva-thinkpad | interesting. Do you use github, launchpad, subversion? | 17:14 |
| ali1234 | i use github and launchpad a lot. also errors.ubuntu.com. subversion... only as long as it takes to import the repo into git | 17:14 |
| ali1234 | xfce also has it's own git repos | 17:15 |
| ali1234 | what i think is really lacking is communication between distros and upstream | 17:15 |
| ali1234 | i find so many bugs on distro bug trackers, especially launchpad | 17:15 |
| ali1234 | and upstream doesn't even know about them | 17:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, yah I get that a lot with my compiz bugs | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | oh yeah, compiz | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | i've got a commit on 0.8, but that was after canonical forked it | 17:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | oh neat | 17:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | what for? | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | so probably nobody is using my fix | 17:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ha | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | fixing the ezoom plugin to work with multimonitor | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | most of my patches are trivial as well, like anyone with a bit of critical thinking could find these bugs | 17:17 |
| ali1234 | that and lots of free time | 17:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, oh nice. best feature of compiz imo | 17:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, what do you use for your ide? | 17:18 |
| ali1234 | yeah, i agree, that's why i ported it to xfwm | 17:18 |
| ali1234 | i don't use an ide | 17:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | really? | 17:18 |
| ali1234 | i used to use gedit until they ruined it, now i use mousepad | 17:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | vim emacS? | 17:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ah | 17:18 |
| ali1234 | if i am in a terminal i use nano | 17:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | never heard of mousepad | 17:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | have you ever tried geany? | 17:18 |
| ali1234 | it's exactly like how gedit used to be | 17:18 |
| ali1234 | i found geany to be slightly ugly and very slow | 17:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | maybe. | 17:19 |
| ali1234 | i like gtksourceview *shrug* | 17:19 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I like geany because its easy to run python in it. | 17:19 |
| ali1234 | tat's what terminals are for? | 17:19 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, just saves a second. | 17:19 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, one thing I also like is that it works with ubuntu's hud. That is really the selling point for me in unity | 17:20 |
| akiva-thinkpad | And what I missed in xfce. | 17:20 |
| ali1234 | oh jesus no | 17:20 |
| akiva-thinkpad | not the dash; the hud :P | 17:20 |
| ali1234 | the hud is horrible, i used unity for over a year and the first thing i did when reinstalling is unbind alt | 17:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | although I like the dash as well. | 17:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ah | 17:21 |
| ali1234 | the second thing i did was unbind the windows key | 17:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | interesting | 17:21 |
| ali1234 | the third thing was turn off overlay scrollbars and global menu | 17:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | different strokes for different folks. I love the hud with gimp because most of the options do not have a shortcut key associated with it. | 17:21 |
| ali1234 | painting with keyboard... senseful? | 17:22 |
| ali1234 | i really dislike this push towards keyboard shortcuts... for years ui designers told us how much users hate keyboard shortcuts and typing things | 17:22 |
| ali1234 | ut now apparently they love it | 17:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ha true that | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | well, except when they are using apps... then it all has to be touch controls | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | anyway, my feeling to getting more contributors... and this was raised in the previous session too... first you need to stop losing them | 17:25 |
| ali1234 | and that's something i've been saying for years now | 17:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ali1234, how do you do that? | 17:25 |
| ali1234 | well, stop chasing users at the expense of people like me | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | i used unity for years, tried to contribute, it was just a mess | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | eventually gave up and went to xubuntu | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | i reported many bugs in that time | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | nearly all of them are still open | 17:26 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yah it would be good to perhaps indicate that unity7 or compiz are not in active development. | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | the unity stack is huge and vertical and i never could even figure out which part was broken, let alone fix it | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | unity 8 is no better... it is just different | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | i do still watch the development | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | in a way i am glad i never bothered to learn unity 7, because it's dead now | 17:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I have mainly contributed to the core apps; havn't delved much into unity8 itself | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | the phone stuff isn't usable yet | 17:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I know the feeling of trying to track down what lever pushes what button. | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | you need people who fix what they use | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | first then, you need people using it | 17:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | One of my complains is sometimes it is unclear where to file bugs for certain projects | 17:29 |
| ali1234 | right now, people can only use unity 7 day to day | 17:29 |
| ali1234 | but that's dead, so even if they do fix it, it's not worth much | 17:29 |
| ali1234 | constant API churn and rewriting things instead of fixing them has been a problem for a long time now | 17:29 |
| ali1234 | it basically makes it impossible for people to fix what they use | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | because the development version is constantly too buggy to use, and the stable version is maintenance only | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | like i said, i've been harping on about these problems for years | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | just ask popey; he's bored of listening to this rant now | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | anyway, gotta go for dinner | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | cya later | 17:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | later | 17:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lol | 17:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | see you around | 17:31 |
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| dwvisser | Satisfied Lubuntu 14.04 LTS user here. (Installed on 2 machines at home at several at work used for software development.) | 18:53 |
| wxl | wow we already got a convo going on neat :) | 18:53 |
| dwvisser | oops... *and* several at work | 18:54 |
| joern_ | hi everyone! | 18:54 |
| wxl | yeah well i'm at work too :) | 18:55 |
| dwvisser | Hello. Where is everyone in meatspace. I'm in the USA. | 18:55 |
| wxl | but about to go at lunch to do this | 18:55 |
| wxl | ok i'm headed for it | 18:55 |
| wxl | 30 seconds | 18:59 |
| wxl | um is it up? | 19:00 |
| ianorlin | confirmed up | 19:00 |
| belkinsa | And you are live! | 19:00 |
| belkinsa | I see you! | 19:01 |
| joern_ | I'm watching it, too | 19:02 |
| joern_ | :D | 19:02 |
| wxl | can you all see the slides/ | 19:02 |
| joern_ | but I still don't know how I can join and stuff :P | 19:02 |
| belkinsa | Blackscreen, wxl | 19:02 |
| wxl | black screen? | 19:02 |
| belkinsa | I see them now! | 19:02 |
| belkinsa | Video lag | 19:02 |
| joern_ | yes, the slides are there | 19:03 |
| amjjawad | wxl: | 19:03 |
| amjjawad | I can see it :) | 19:03 |
| joern_ | hi amjjawad | 19:03 |
| gilir | is there a link somewhere to join the hangout ? :-) | 19:03 |
| amjjawad | joern_: hello :) | 19:03 |
| joern_ | wxl: you are in a public toilet, aren't you? | 19:03 |
| joern_ | :D | 19:03 |
| gilir | Looks like a 1 man presentation for now :-) | 19:03 |
| amjjawad | belkinsa: I failed to sleep :( | 19:03 |
| amjjawad | joern_: hehehe | 19:04 |
| joern_ | o/ gilir | 19:04 |
| belkinsa | There should be a Join Hangout on the page | 19:04 |
| phillw | gilir: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22341/community-1411-latest-developments-in-lubuntu-development/ | 19:04 |
| belkinsa | wxl, which the side | 19:04 |
| phillw | you need to me signed on, iirc | 19:04 |
| amjjawad | wxl: you need to post the link here so people could join | 19:05 |
| amjjawad | click on "invite" on google hangout and copy-paste the link and post it here | 19:05 |
| joern_ | hi phillw | 19:05 |
| phillw | ho joern_ | 19:06 |
| jose | link is on summit if you marked you were very interested in attending | 19:06 |
| jose | or are required | 19:06 |
| belkinsa | Did wxl forgot to switch the side? | 19:06 |
| amjjawad | jose: I know. Some other people don't though | 19:06 |
| jose | that's why I wrote it here :) | 19:06 |
| amjjawad | and that is why I asked wxl to post the link here to make life easier ;) | 19:07 |
| gilir | phillw, I am only on listen-only mode with this link, but maybe it's on purpose for the beginning of the session | 19:07 |
| joern_ | me too | 19:07 |
| joern_ | :D | 19:07 |
| amjjawad | wxl: your slide does not work | 19:08 |
| * belkinsa is listening too | 19:08 | |
| phillw | gilir: belkinsa is the person to sort that out, that's why we have her :) | 19:08 |
| joern_ | but that's better, I guess you don't want to hear my terrible english ^^ | 19:08 |
| amjjawad | wxl: it is on the first page only | 19:08 |
| belkinsa | I think he can't see the IRC | 19:08 |
| joern_ | that's right | 19:08 |
| amjjawad | belkinsa: indeed | 19:08 |
| belkinsa | But I think he post those sides somewhere | 19:08 |
| MarcT | Need to change the slides | 19:08 |
| belkinsa | Who is in the hangout with him? Tell me. | 19:09 |
| amjjawad | well, someone with good English needs to join him and talk to him ;) | 19:09 |
| belkinsa | Tell him* | 19:09 |
| amjjawad | No one as far as I can tell | 19:09 |
| ianorlin | team :D | 19:10 |
| amjjawad | belkinsa: I thought you will attend my session :( | 19:10 |
| amjjawad | looks like it is the time zone belkinsa | 19:11 |
| belkinsa | amjjawad, I don't have something sable | 19:11 |
| gilir | hopefuly, we will have the slides after the session :-) | 19:11 |
| belkinsa | I wanted to host one today but I wasn't able because my computer | 19:11 |
| belkinsa | gilir, hopefully | 19:11 |
| amjjawad | belkinsa: what is wrong with your computer? | 19:11 |
| belkinsa | Yes, and I will fix it | 19:12 |
| amjjawad | belkinsa: hope so :) | 19:12 |
| belkinsa | To bad that you can't do hangouts on air on a tablet taht well | 19:13 |
| * amjjawad when will wxl see the IRC? | 19:13 | |
| amjjawad | belkinsa: I do prefer computers rather than stuff like tablets .. | 19:13 |
| amjjawad | belkinsa: I don't even have a tab and I don't want to | 19:14 |
| belkinsa | Same here | 19:14 |
| joern_ | well if I could make Lubuntu completely running on my tablet, I would like it ^^ | 19:14 |
| joern_ | but the wifi isn't working | 19:14 |
| amjjawad | joern_: It is not the system in my case, it is just that I feel myself with a keyboard and buttons | 19:14 |
| amjjawad | touch thing is not my thing :) | 19:15 |
| amjjawad | joern_: maybe when ToriOS is out, that would be possible :D | 19:15 |
| joern_ | :P | 19:15 |
| belkinsa | \o/ | 19:16 |
| amjjawad | why this session about the team? | 19:18 |
| amjjawad | I thought it is about the dev side?! | 19:18 |
| belkinsa | What happened? | 19:18 |
| amjjawad | disconnected | 19:18 |
| joern_ | maybe something with the water closed he's obviously sitting on? ;-) | 19:18 |
| * belkinsa thinks doing this session via iRC is better | 19:19 | |
| joern_ | *closet | 19:19 |
| belkinsa | ;) | 19:19 |
| amjjawad | joern_: hahah | 19:19 |
| wxl | argh | 19:19 |
| wxl | what the hell :( | 19:19 |
| belkinsa | You need a new hangout and start again | 19:19 |
| joern_ | wb Walter | 19:19 |
| amjjawad | finally you looked at the IRC :D wxl | 19:19 |
| belkinsa | start that one and move one* | 19:19 |
| wxl | so the slides didn't work??? :( | 19:19 |
| amjjawad | your slide wasn't working | 19:19 |
| amjjawad | wxl: nope | 19:19 |
| wxl | sorry it's hard to see slides and irc at the same time | 19:19 |
| belkinsa | wxl, F5 and scroll through the, | 19:19 |
| wxl | i'll try again | 19:19 |
| wxl | i did belkinsa | 19:19 |
| belkinsa | Oh, really? | 19:20 |
| belkinsa | Strange | 19:20 |
| marcLBPSB | Not able to hear or see anything? | 19:20 |
| amjjawad | if you click on the link, you should go back again wxl | 19:20 |
| belkinsa | wxl is having problem | 19:20 |
| phillw | marcLBPSB: hangout reset... just re-starting | 19:20 |
| marcLBPSB | cool....back in | 19:21 |
| marcLBPSB | sound is echo now..hearing everything twice | 19:21 |
| joern_ | no echo for me | 19:22 |
| belkinsa | QUESTION: Will the sides be posted somewhere? | 19:22 |
| joern_ | there is someone in the background | 19:22 |
| belkinsa | Yes | 19:22 |
| joern_ | bit small, but I see it | 19:22 |
| amjjawad | wxl: yes | 19:22 |
| marcLBPSB | can see but sound is echo x 2 | 19:22 |
| amjjawad | can you make it bigger wxl | 19:22 |
| belkinsa | Not really, no echo for me | 19:22 |
| ianorlin | I can see it | 19:22 |
| phillw | yup | 19:22 |
| amjjawad | no echo here | 19:23 |
| phillw | no echo here | 19:23 |
| joern_ | yay, scrolling slides | 19:23 |
| joern_ | ! | 19:23 |
| belkinsa | Sorry for the repost | 19:24 |
| belkinsa | wxl, QUESTION: Will the sides be posted somewhere? (if you want to answer it in the end go ahead) | 19:24 |
| amjjawad | why don't you guys join him?! | 19:24 |
| amjjawad | don't be shy to share your voice :P | 19:24 |
| belkinsa | Still no scroll | 19:24 |
| ianorlin | link ? | 19:25 |
| amjjawad | https://plus.google.com/events/cjplq7nnhal3decmvu8afk516mk | 19:25 |
| MarcT | I had two windows open at same time which explains the echo....sorry | 19:25 |
| amjjawad | MarcT: ;) | 19:25 |
| belkinsa | Scrolling now! | 19:26 |
| belkinsa | \o/ | 19:26 |
| wxl | gilir: are you ready? | 19:33 |
| gilir | wxl, yes, but I suppose to talk alone ? | 19:34 |
| wxl | gilir: just come on and you'll take over | 19:35 |
| MarcT | When will 14.10 become an LTS release | 19:35 |
| joern_ | never :P | 19:35 |
| ianorlin | Where do you report bugs with LXQt if you find them? | 19:35 |
| wxl | it's an automatic thing about hangouts | 19:35 |
| joern_ | it's not supposed to | 19:35 |
| gilir | wxl, I'm already on the hangout | 19:35 |
| wxl | gilir: nope | 19:35 |
| joern_ | wxl: I guess you need to invite or something | 19:35 |
| wxl | invited | 19:36 |
| gilir | ianorlin, https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next | 19:36 |
| gilir | or if you are sure it's upstream : https://github.com/lxde/lxqt/issues | 19:37 |
| gilir | wxl, I already click on the link, but I'm on listen-only mode | 19:37 |
| wxl | gilir: change that | 19:37 |
| gilir | wxl, how do you do that ? | 19:38 |
| * gilir try to disconnect / reconnect | 19:39 | |
| belkinsa | Is there an unmute for mic for you? | 19:39 |
| belkinsa | gilir^^^ | 19:39 |
| wxl | it's that he's not even in the hangout | 19:39 |
| wxl | can ANYONE actually join the hangout? | 19:39 |
| joern_ | not me | 19:40 |
| phillw | needs an invite, iirc | 19:40 |
| gilir | wxl, I think nobody can join | 19:40 |
| belkinsa | What is the link again? | 19:40 |
| phillw | belkinsa: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22341/community-1411-latest-developments-in-lubuntu-development/ | 19:40 |
| gilir | I remember first UOS, you saw the people connected to the hangout | 19:40 |
| wxl | https://plus.google.com/events/cjplq7nnhal3decmvu8afk516mk | 19:41 |
| gilir | and now, I see nobody execpt wxl | 19:41 |
| belkinsa | Use the link that you have for the hangout that you are in. | 19:41 |
| wxl | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdAexc11cnL-K9M5hv4-NuvJixppCPs0lztE6XVus1cjW2dFA?authuser=0&hl=en | 19:41 |
| wxl | that? | 19:41 |
| belkinsa | Yes | 19:41 |
| wxl | oh jeez :/ | 19:41 |
| * wxl facepalms | 19:41 | |
| belkinsa | Link works | 19:42 |
| belkinsa | gilir, use that link | 19:42 |
| belkinsa | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdAexc11cnL-K9M5hv4-NuvJixppCPs0lztE6XVus1cjW2dFA?authuser=0&hl=en | 19:42 |
| belkinsa | I can too | 19:43 |
| wxl | hi jörn | 19:43 |
| belkinsa | Where is gilir from? | 19:43 |
| wxl | france i believe | 19:43 |
| joern_ | finally | 19:44 |
| belkinsa | He kind of sounds like Gru. ;) | 19:44 |
| joern_ | belkinsa: where did you get that link from? :D | 19:44 |
| belkinsa | This one? https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdAexc11cnL-K9M5hv4-NuvJixppCPs0lztE6XVus1cjW2dFA?authuser=0&hl=en | 19:44 |
| belkinsa | From wxl | 19:44 |
| joern_ | yes that one | 19:44 |
| wxl | ooh it's phillw | 19:44 |
| belkinsa | It's the hangout link to be in it | 19:44 |
| joern_ | good to know | 19:44 |
| belkinsa | Firefox, why you crash? | 19:45 |
| phillw | not shaved... dropped camaera :) | 19:45 |
| joern_ | come on phillw | 19:45 |
| wxl | joern_: 5 minutes left if you want to talk! | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | Who is the other guy, not ianorlin but the other one | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | joern_, is that you in the hangout? | 19:50 |
| wxl | belkinsa: joern with the headphones | 19:50 |
| joern_ | yes that's me | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | AH, I see. | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | It's finally good to see you joern_ in person | 19:51 |
| joern_ | if there is time, I would like to ask about btrfs support for Lubuntu | 19:51 |
| wxl | 1s | 19:51 |
| joern_ | my fancy gaming headphone :P | 19:51 |
| wxl | joern_: ↑ | 19:51 |
| wxl | when julien is done talking please introduce yourself | 19:51 |
| joern_ | sounds fine | 19:52 |
| belkinsa | 16.04 should the LTS but 15.04 or 15.10 can be the switch but more for testing it | 19:52 |
| belkinsa | 16.04 LTS with the new thing, I mean | 19:52 |
| wxl | that's what gilir is discussing | 19:52 |
| belkinsa | AH, I see. | 19:52 |
| wxl | well 2 min left | 19:53 |
| wxl | joern_: go | 19:53 |
| * wxl pets his beard | 19:54 | |
| belkinsa | Thanks for the this session guys | 19:55 |
| wxl | thanks for coming belkinsa | 19:55 |
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| joern_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu…/+source/ubiquity/+bug/204187 | 19:56 |
| udsbotu | Launchpad bug 204187 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No compressed file system option in ubiquity." [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 19:56 |
| wxl | bug 204187 | 19:57 |
| wxl | all good buddy | 20:00 |
| gilir | thanks wxl :-) | 20:03 |
| wxl | thanks gilir ! | 20:03 |
| phillw | good session! | 20:03 |
| phillw | wxl: always good to bag the last one of the day... you don't get kicked off :D | 20:04 |
| wxl | except for the technical mishaps | 20:04 |
| wxl | shall we continue this conversation at the usual meeting place? | 20:04 |
| phillw | can do :)7 | 20:04 |
| wxl | ta all | 20:04 |
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