[05:42] <kbmonkey> Maaz, tell Kilos Hello.
[05:42] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:47] <Squirm> Morning
[05:48] <Squirm> Maaz: Tell Kilos Hello
[05:48] <Maaz> Squirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:48] <bduk> Morning 
[06:05] <kbmonkey> Morning :)
[06:05] <kbmonkey> off to work I go, hi ho hi ho
[07:38] <Squirm> not even 10 yet
[09:42] <charl> good morning
[09:42] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:42]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:43] <charl> hi Kilos 
[09:44] <Kilos> hhi chsrl and others
[09:44] <Kilos> shortage of modems ans airtime here
[09:44] <Kilos> hi Squirm  kbmonkey 
[09:45] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, superfly inetpro too
[09:45] <charl> Kilos: grab some coffee while it's fresh
[09:45] <charl> maaz is making
[09:45] <Kilos> that recovery is using up all the resources in my pc. cant even move the mouse
[09:46] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[09:46] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[09:46] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[09:46] <charl> Maaz: danke
[09:46] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[09:46] <charl> sehr gut, sehr gut
[09:46] <Kilos> on xubuntu here and xchat but no sound it seems
[09:48] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[09:48] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[09:49] <Kilos> bushtech, its working
[09:50] <Kilos> them android things are terrible for ballies
[09:51] <Kilos> Maaz, google quassel for android cell phones
[09:51] <Maaz> Kilos: "Quasseldroid - Android Apps on Google Play" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iskrembilen.quasseldroid&hl=en :: "QuasselDroid: Quassel for Android – cross-platform mobile IRC client" http://opensourcehacker.com/2011/03/28/quasseldroid-quassel-for-android-cross-platform-mobile-irc-client/ :: "Can anyone recommend an alternative to Quassel
[09:51] <Maaz> IRC client? : linux" http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2kokgd/can_anyone_recommend_an…
[10:05] <bushtech> Kilos,  you looking for irc client on android phone? Try Yaaic
[10:06] <Kilos> ya when i go off here so i can have the modems sim card again ill get it
[10:07] <Kilos> ok ill trythat too ty
[10:07] <Kilos> what a schlep it is trying to get upper case symbols in passwords
[10:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:08] <Kilos> took about 20 tries to get the right password for my gmail account
[10:09] <Kilos> while you scrolling through the symbols it keeps adding wrong ones
[10:09] <Kilos> grrrr
[10:09] <bushtech> what version android you running?
[10:09] <Kilos> i need a droid fone with a screen about 18 inches square
[10:10] <Kilos> does 2.1 sound right
[10:11] <bushtech> possible but very old. current now about 4.4
[10:11] <bushtech> depends what your phone can handle
[10:12] <Squirm> 'lo
[10:12] <Kilos> it doesnt open about phone without a sim in
[10:13] <bushtech> if phone connected to internet you can go Settings/More/About device/Software update to check if newer version available
[10:15] <Kilos> i still dont see that more
[10:15] <Kilos> but will look for an update
[10:16] <Kilos> i see settings then about phone at the bottom
[10:18] <Kilos> im poegaai now , been busy since 4am with all this stuff
[10:19] <bushtech> eina
[10:20] <Kilos> and still no rain, sigh
[10:23] <Symmetria> wtf, south african government is on crack
[10:24] <Symmetria> you automatically qualify for a 5 year work visa if you have a cisco cert or an mcse now
[10:24] <bushtech> lol
[10:35] <inetpro> ai!
[10:36] <inetpro> don't we have enough mcse guys who don't know what they're doing?
[10:37] <inetpro> good afternoon everyone
[10:37] <inetpro> and hi Kilos
[10:37] <Kilos> lol
[10:37] <Kilos> on second thoughts
[13:30] <somaunn> hello guys
[13:32] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[13:32] <Kilos> afternoon guys
[13:33] <Kilos> hmm>>>
[13:34] <somaunn> I want to learn a bit of how to create DB with OpenSource software such as LibreOffice or OoO
[13:35] <Kilos> enjoy
[13:37] <somaunn> Someone to help ?
[13:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> people actually use those DBs in the real world?
[13:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> why not MySQL or Postgres, things that real people use
[13:49] <somaunn> ThatGraemeGuy: I'm not a DB expert you see, want to learn and develop something that real people will use in real world (like you said) without big constrain
[13:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmm'kay
[13:52] <somaunn> I came to LO or OoO because I have read that they can create small DB's compatible with access for those MS citizen
[13:54] <superfly> LO's Base doesn't create Access databases
[13:56] <somaunn> superfly: Okay what to do then go for Kexi ?
[13:56] <superfly> somaunn: In the real world, people don't use databases, they use applications. Applications use databases, and people don't care what database it is.
[14:04] <somaunn> superfly: Yeah i agree
[14:04] <somaunn> fully agree
[14:08] <superfly> So, to quote Bigmore from Robots, "See a need, fill a need"
[14:35] <magespawn> exit
[14:40] <Kilos> wbb
[15:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:45] <magespawn> good afternoon
[15:45] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[15:46] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[15:46] <Kilos> stupid pc
[15:46] <magespawn> what is wrong Kilos?
[15:46] <Kilos> recovery got to 100% of first run of scalpel the froze
[15:47] <Kilos> so whole day and night wasted
[15:47] <magespawn> wow
[15:47] <Kilos> i cant find how to tell scalpel to carry on where it left off
[15:47] <magespawn> i have only used photorec and the other one
[15:47] <magespawn> lets have a look
[15:48] <Kilos> the files it recovered are in the folders but it needs the second run to make them visible
[15:48] <Kilos> now im back on my drive and resting, head not happy with all this stuff
[15:49] <Kilos> stupid xperia now charges then discharges on its own
[15:50] <magespawn> maybe take the xperia for a service
[15:50] <magespawn> might just need a new battery or charger
[15:50] <Kilos> no man i gotta fix stuff myself
[15:51] <Kilos> the battery lasted whole day yesterday but last night started its nonsense
[15:51] <Kilos> grrr
[15:51] <magespawn> sometimes that is not possible
[15:52] <magespawn> i do not see anything in the scalpel man pages about restarting a run
[15:52] <Kilos> i have to or throw away. they charged a friend of my sister R75 just to set up her fone
[15:53] <Kilos> i rather use money for data than pay some thief
[15:53] <Kilos> ya thats what i say i dont find a switch i think its called to start a rerun
[15:54] <Kilos> and before you can start a new run you have to delete the old output file
[15:54] <Kilos> grrr
[15:54] <Kilos> i even looked if there was a #testdisk
[15:54] <Kilos> there was but only me there haha
[15:55] <magespawn> at least you knew to look
[15:55] <Kilos> lol
[15:56] <magespawn> if you go to one of the netwrok cell shops they will usually be able to help you properly
[15:57] <Kilos> i will do it man. it now connects to the internet with 8ta sim and i can google here
[15:57] <magespawn> but yes they are not cheap that is for sure
[15:58] <Kilos> what i must do is just sort the battery charge prob then walk 1k to a telkom hotspot
[15:59] <Kilos> i got 10g free wifi data with every 2+1 data bundle
[15:59] <magespawn> i wonder if their T&C prohibit long range equipment
[15:59] <Kilos> ?
[16:00] <Kilos> i dont even know where it is. its close enough but i dont know what is there on that side of us
[16:00] <Kilos> maybe a shop or something
[16:01] <magespawn> most of those sorts of hotspots work on the premise that you have to be in or near the shop to use it, thereby limiting the number of users, and how much they can use
[16:01] <Kilos> i will walk there and see how strong their signal is, then decide whether i must make another yagi
[16:01] <Kilos> ah
[16:02] <Kilos> will investigate some time when i got energy
[16:02] <Kilos> how was your day magespawn 
[16:02] <magespawn> good, i managed to get several things sorted out
[16:03] <Kilos> nice
[16:03] <Kilos> lekker to have successful days
[16:03] <magespawn> indeed
[16:12] <Kilos> hi JabberwockyA19 
[16:13] <JabberwockyA19> hey Kilos, how goes?
[16:13] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[16:14] <JabberwockyA19> I'm good, my pc not that great
[16:15] <Kilos> ai!
[16:15] <Kilos> whats happening
[16:16] <JabberwockyA19> installed bleeding edge packages to test if the problem I have still occurs in the latest versions and my PC locked up
[16:16] <Kilos> ai!
[16:17] <JabberwockyA19> after a forced restart my file system was damaged, hopefully it's just a software thing as I used my new SSD :P
[16:18] <Kilos> you on ubuntu?
[16:18] <JabberwockyA19> straight out of the box, never owneed a SSD before
[16:18] <Kilos> i dont even know what they look like
[16:18] <JabberwockyA19> currently on the work's lappy (macbook pro)
[16:18] <Kilos> oh not ubuntu
[16:19] <Kilos> is there no recovery mode in macs?
[16:19] <Kilos> ubuntu has recovery mode and dpkg and some others
[16:20] <JabberwockyA19> I tried using dpkg, to force reinstall but no go
[16:20] <JabberwockyA19> when I run some of the basic commands bash just gives I/O errors
[16:20] <Kilos> fix broken command for mac?
[16:20] <Kilos> eeek i/o errors arent good
[16:22] <Kilos> go look here JabberwockyA19 http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-repair-damaged-zip-files-with-terminal--mac-49294
[16:22] <Kilos> or run some fsck command
[16:24] <Kilos> http://osxdaily.com/2013/08/07/how-to-repair-a-mac-disk-with-fsck-from-single-user-mode/
[16:27] <JabberwockyA19> sorry was AFK for min, the hdd is still in my ubuntu box will give it another go a bit later
[16:27] <JabberwockyA19> downloading ubuntu iso first :)
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <JabberwockyA19> I don't have any problems repairing EXT filesystems, but I formatted my SSD to btrfs
[16:29] <JabberwockyA19> and I'm a btrfs noob
[16:29] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:31] <gremble> Hey Kilos. Did you end up fixing that HDD?
[16:32] <Kilos> gremble, my pc froze when it was near the end
[16:32] <Kilos> so now ill run scalpel with less stuff to look for
[16:32] <gremble> Ah ok
[16:32] <Kilos> have you seen the scalpel conf file
[16:33] <Kilos> i made it look for everything
[16:35] <gremble> Oh ok
[16:35] <Kilos> its a massive file with so much stuff i have no idea what most of them are so i made it do everything
[16:36] <Kilos> hehe
[16:36] <Kilos> you just uncomment the different things you want found
[16:39] <Kilos> but the drive is working here now gremble only the /storage partition at the end i will recover when energy flows again
[16:40] <gremble> Ah ok
[16:40] <gremble> I am really reading what you are typing
[16:40] <gremble> I just realised that my answers look extremely generic
[16:40] <gremble> haha
[16:40] <Kilos> lol
[16:41] <Kilos> mathmeticians are like that
[16:43] <gremble> You know many mathematicians?
[16:44] <Kilos> no but ive seen them potrayed in movies
[16:44] <Kilos> portrayed
[16:44] <Kilos> and my maths teachers at school were like that too
[16:45] <Kilos> one was very cute though, thats why i battle with maths, she had beautiful legs
[16:45] <gremble> Haha
[16:45] <gremble> I also have very beautiful legs *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
[16:46] <Kilos> rofl
[16:47] <JabberwockyA19> laters, going to fix my drive now
[16:47] <gremble> cheers JabberwockyA19 
[16:47] <Kilos> ok
[16:47] <Kilos> good luck jabb
[16:48] <Kilos> ai!
[16:53] <Kilos> hi Tonberry 
[16:54] <Tonberry> hi
[16:58] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[16:58] <somaunn> i'm back
[16:58] <magespawn> me too
[16:58] <Kilos> wb somaunn 
[16:58] <Kilos> and magespawn 
[16:59] <somaunn> who is the DB boss here ?
[16:59] <Kilos> lol
[16:59] <somaunn> wanna learn quick and fast 
[16:59] <somaunn> i mean fast and better 
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat now
[16:59] <somaunn> Eat some codes for me please
[17:00] <somaunn> what are you going to eat bro
[17:00] <somaunn> chicken again ...
[17:00] <magespawn> which one are you looking to learn somaunn?
[17:01] <somaunn> basic DB 
[17:02] <somaunn> i'm good at DB at all and want to take time and learn, i've small DB saving peoples life when provinding with report on small job
[17:02] <somaunn> i want to learn for me to be able to dev the same thing for my company
[17:02] <magespawn> database?
[17:03] <somaunn> yeah
[17:06] <magespawn> as far as i know, and my knowledge is shallow in this area, there are more than one type
[17:08] <somaunn> okay
[17:08] <somaunn> can we take it off this channel or you prefer to it here ?
[17:10] <somaunn> magespawn: Basically i een many  of them [Ms acces, OoO base, LO Base, kexi, MySQL, PostgreSQL etc....]
[17:10] <somaunn> can't chose one of them, must make sure of what is good for a beginner like me 
[17:18] <Kilos> curry and pap and i fullup now
[17:20] <somaunn> great
[17:20] <somaunn> will you do poetgie on friday or saturday
[17:20] <Kilos> ?
[17:20] <Kilos> whats that
[17:21] <somaunn> poetgi course (hope i'm not wrong)
[17:21] <Kilos> im lost
[17:22] <Kilos> wb superfly mrs_fly 
[17:22] <somaunn> the good food you cook and very old cooking "marmites"
[17:22] <Kilos> what language is poetgi
[17:23] <Kilos> and how do you make it
[17:29] <magespawn> potjie, i think Kilos
[17:29] <Kilos> oh 
[17:36] <Kilos> eish magespawn 
[17:36] <Kilos> no wonder im battling for space
[17:36] <magespawn> ?
[17:36] <Kilos> gremble, was right
[17:36] <magespawn> why?
[17:36] <Kilos> the /storage partition in sda6 not sda7
[17:37] <Kilos> 7 is home
[17:37] <Kilos> how did i make such a mistake
[17:37] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:38] <Kilos> i was recovering off my 800g /home partition
[17:38] <Kilos> what a twit
[17:38] <gremble> Kilos: Were you right, or was I right?
[17:38] <magespawn> that is very easy, i always quadruple check myself, because i dd and wiped a drive like that
[17:38] <Kilos> you were gremble i apologise
[17:38] <Kilos> eish
[17:39] <gremble> I love being right. I just don't know when I was right or why I am right xD
[17:39] <magespawn> good way to learn though
[17:40] <Kilos> when yopu said you cant recover so much off a 100g partition man
[17:40] <Kilos> you too
[17:42] <Kilos> i normally open gparted to see what the partitions are before i recover
[17:42] <Kilos> dunno where i went wrong this time
[17:44] <magespawn> maybe a way to go from here would be to write your own how to, so that you follow the same steps every time
[17:45] <somaunn> Kilos: in case you want to recover files or partitions this tools will help you doing it easily www.hirensbootcd.org
[17:45] <Kilos> lol
[17:45] <magespawn> that is something i struggle with
[17:45] <magespawn> i get something right and then promptly forget how i did it
[17:45] <Kilos> i must have been half asleep or something
[17:45] <Kilos> or wrong glasses
[17:46] <Kilos> somaunn, i use testdisk photorec foremost and scalpel
[17:46] <Kilos> run from hard drive
[17:47] <Kilos> and they all part of ubuntu repos
[17:47] <Kilos> tiny downloads no a whole live cd full of data
[17:49] <Kilos> but thanks for the link
[17:51] <Kilos> i think i originally followed this link somaunn http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[18:08] <Kilos> early night for me. night all. sleep tight
[18:08] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[18:08] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[20:01] <magespawn> good night all