[22:21] <sebsebseb> mhall119: ping
[22:21] <mhall119> sebsebseb: pong
[22:22] <sebsebseb> mhall119: who's the Ubuntu Community manager now?  I saw about half of that video with Shuttleworht and you and then uesiotns
[22:23] <mhall119> sebsebseb: everybody who worked for Jono before had their title changed to "Community Manager"
[22:23] <mhall119> dpm, who took over jono's managerial role, got the title "Community Team Manager"
[22:23] <sebsebseb> and then not sure what that was meant to say at the end
[22:23] <sebsebseb> I am on IRC after a few weeks first time
[22:24] <mhall119> basically Ubuntu has multiple community managers now
[22:24] <sebsebseb> oh right nice
[22:24] <sebsebseb> ,but anyonew new joining the team woudn't get that?
[22:24] <mhall119> they might, randall ross just joined the cloud side with that title i think
[22:24] <sebsebseb> mhall119: how's the  Ubuntu Phone coming along
[22:24] <mhall119> sebsebseb: exciting times, we're so close I can taste it
[22:24] <sebsebseb> come end of Januaray or so  Orange wil try to sell me a new phone I guess,  or  whtaever
[22:25] <sebsebseb> ,but I was thinking
[22:25] <sebsebseb> of
[22:25] <sebsebseb> if possible
[22:25] <mhall119> only, I won't *actually* taste it at first, because I'm in the USA and our network frequencies are weird here
[22:25] <sebsebseb> probabably buying an Ubuntu phone  intead then :D or around hten
[22:25] <sebsebseb> Android is a bit boring now anyway so
[22:25] <mhall119> sebsebseb: we *should* have a phone you can by at that point in time
[22:25] <sebsebseb> and I did put some money into the edge well nearly actually
[22:26] <sebsebseb> mhall119: yeah and then  I guess put a giffgaff card in it and :),  yeah that's the ipression I am getting that that someting is on the verge of being released
[22:26] <sebsebseb> in December?
[22:26] <mhall119> sebsebseb: I can't say for sure, we can provide them the "finished" software, but the supply chain and manufacturing process is out of our hands
[22:27] <sebsebseb> well will be interesieng to see what happens wit that, and the tabl
[22:27] <sebsebseb> e
[22:27] <sebsebseb> t
[22:27] <mhall119> no immediate plans for a tablet release, we're all-hands on the phone
[22:28] <sebsebseb> ah righty eah, but I think someone else was going to do one going by omgubuntu anwyay
[22:29] <sebsebseb> mhall119: anyway 2015  the year of the Ubuntu Phone, or probably?
[22:29] <sebsebseb> also I know there's a like software preview that I haven't treid or yet  but it wil run some Android apps to ?
[22:30] <mhall119> sebsebseb: most likely, even if we get a phone out in 2014 it would be hard to call it that
[22:31] <sebsebseb> yeah why's that?
[22:31] <mhall119> sebsebseb: no, Ubuntu won't run Android apps
[22:31] <mhall119> because december != "the year"
[22:31] <sebsebseb> December is this year yeah
[22:31] <mhall119> yeah, but only a small part of it
[22:31] <mhall119> I, for one, won't be calling 2014 "the year of the Ubuntu Phone"
[22:32] <sebsebseb> well  I guess I may mean mor ewhen manufacctres start selling Ubuntu Phone
[22:32] <sebsebseb> that won't be until 2015 by earliest I assume
[22:32] <sebsebseb> or for most
[22:32] <mhall119> yes, still should happen this year
[22:32] <sebsebseb> oh you think manfactures will start selling devces with it in December?
[22:32] <mhall119> we have 2 oems who are planning on shipping currently, one plans to ship by end of year, the other next year
[22:32] <sebsebseb> yeah  bq and the other one
[22:33] <sebsebseb> that's what I was thinking I Would  buy if going to be an early adopter
[22:33] <mhall119> Meizu
[22:33] <sebsebseb> apparnatly not convergence changing to desktop stuff  on first phones though, but that's ok
[22:33] <mhall119> no, not until we have unity 8 ready for desktop and phone powerful enough to make a good workstation
[22:34] <sebsebseb> mhall119: do you kmow who the big OEM paratner is meant to be?  or you do and meant to be hush hush for now about that?
[22:34] <mhall119> what do you mean 'big OEM partner'?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> apparnatly a bigger maker wil do  UBuntu Phone as well
[22:34] <sebsebseb> manufacturer
[22:36] <sebsebseb> mhall119: BQ,  m what you put, and unknown secret big  manufacturer appaantly
[22:37] <sebsebseb> mhall119: ok convergnece for 16.04  phone turns into destkop,   I read that actsaully some hwere.  and  something probably by the end of the year or Janruary for early adopters
[22:38] <mhall119> sebsebseb: I haven't heard anything about a big secret OEM
[22:38] <sebsebseb> mhall119: somen big Samsung maybe, I did read it some where
[22:38] <sebsebseb> I don't think it said Samsung, buty eah a big name
[22:39] <mhall119> heh, don't expect Samsung anytime soon, then have Tizen as their alternative remember?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> yes  well I meant Samsung as an example of a big brand, not saying htey would do it
[22:39] <sebsebseb> and indeed they have Tizen
[22:40] <sebsebseb> mhall119: probbly smoething more like
[22:40] <sebsebseb> Huawaii or whatever it was
[22:40] <sebsebseb> for examle
[22:40] <sebsebseb> example