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| goodtime | im a man | 04:58 |
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| goodtime | config | 04:59 |
| goodtime | ha | 04:59 |
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| Hepe | Hello again. (I have Kubuntu 14.10 which I recently upgraded from 14.04.1 LTS) So in an attempt to install Plasma 5, I tried to follow the following commands http://pastebin.com/pByGC4SK, as found in the http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu page. | 06:05 |
| Hepe | Suddenly though, after sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop, my network stopped working. And I couldn't re-connect back via the network manage applet at all. | 06:07 |
| Hepe | So, I did sudo reboot, which was the next step. After rebooting though, I couldn't go beyond the lightdm login screen, (it hangs). | 06:07 |
| Hepe | I'm sure lightdm is supposed to be replaced by sddm, although I'm not sure how sddm is supposed to look like. | 06:08 |
| valorie | hepe, did you choose SDDM or lightdm? | 06:08 |
| Hepe | During the installation, I did choose ssdm. | 06:09 |
| Hepe | For sure. | 06:09 |
| Hepe | sddm * | 06:09 |
| valorie | ok, try in the console: `sudo apt remove lightdm` | 06:09 |
| Hepe | ok | 06:09 |
| valorie | we've found that for a few, including me, it isn't removed correctly | 06:10 |
| valorie | I also encountered that network-manager bug | 06:11 |
| Hepe | (basically I couldn't do that sudo apt full-upgrade commad, and it's not exactly completing well with my shit connection via wvdial in the console ;p) | 06:11 |
| Hepe | Ah ok. | 06:11 |
| valorie | do you have access to a wire? | 06:11 |
| Hepe | No :( | 06:11 |
| valorie | :( | 06:12 |
| valorie | at least you have some connection | 06:12 |
| Hepe | I did however, get wvdial working with my wireless modem. | 06:12 |
| Hepe | Yep. | 06:12 |
| valorie | excellent | 06:12 |
| valorie | was lightdm removed when you did that above command? | 06:13 |
| Hepe | Just did it- and yes, it apparently has been removed. Should I reboot? | 06:14 |
| valorie | well, how about `sudo apt install -f` first | 06:14 |
| valorie | to make sure everything that should be installed, is | 06:14 |
| Hepe | ok | 06:14 |
| Hepe | Nothing really from that command, just 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded. | 06:15 |
| valorie | so, any reason not to do the `sudo apt full-upgrade` now? | 06:16 |
| valorie | it's really best to complete the upgrade before rebooting | 06:16 |
| * Hepe connects to modem | 06:16 | |
| valorie | to be honest, I had to do this a few times | 06:17 |
| valorie | update, install -f , full-upgrade | 06:17 |
| valorie | and I had to install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop more than once as well | 06:18 |
| valorie | best to follow the script as precisely as you can | 06:18 |
| valorie | sec | 06:18 |
| valorie | Hepe: still here? | 06:27 |
| Hepe | Yea. | 06:27 |
| valorie | you may need to use: sudo start sddm | 06:27 |
| valorie | if it doesn't | 06:27 |
| Hepe | Sorry, having problems upgrading with my shit connection :P | 06:27 |
| valorie | also, what I used to get online was nmcli | 06:27 |
| Hepe | now it worked though, so just staring at the screen. | 06:27 |
| valorie | hard to figure out how to use, but by constantly reading man nmcli, I was able to work out how to turn on my connection again | 06:28 |
| Hepe | nmcli is really weird | 06:28 |
| valorie | yes | 06:28 |
| Hepe | or at least, too hard for me -.- | 06:29 |
| Hepe | I know I did the correct ID for my connection..but it wouldn't do it so meh. | 06:29 |
| valorie | one step at a time | 06:29 |
| valorie | well you have to use one part for discovery | 06:29 |
| valorie | and another to get a connection | 06:29 |
| valorie | uber-strange indeed | 06:30 |
| Hepe | omg this is the second time that it has happened. | 06:35 |
| Hepe | I think: my laptop sent in screen saver mode, but when I pressed a key, it went into the light dm login screen. | 06:36 |
| Hepe | and now doing ctrl+alt+f1/f2 is not working... | 06:36 |
| Hepe | any way to bring back the console? | 06:36 |
| Hepe | or do I have to reboot again? :/ | 06:38 |
| valorie | yikes, lightdm wasn't removed? | 06:38 |
| Hepe | I don't know how sddm is supposed to look...does it look radically different? | 06:38 |
| Hepe | because this looks like lightdm. | 06:39 |
| valorie | yes, I think so | 06:39 |
| valorie | can't remember what the lightdm used to look like | 06:39 |
| Hepe | (I don't use the lightdm classic user bar thing)... so everything is like before including my custom lightdm wallpaper | 06:39 |
| valorie | :( | 06:39 |
| Hepe | besides this small button under the password box | 06:39 |
| Hepe | like, it has become super tiny? | 06:40 |
| Hepe | "plasma workspace" button or something | 06:40 |
| valorie | so there is alt+sys+rq+4 | 06:40 |
| valorie | let me look that up | 06:40 |
| valorie | so I don't misquote | 06:40 |
| Hepe | ugh, I want to see that sudo apt full-upgrade process completed | 06:41 |
| valorie | yes | 06:41 |
| Hepe | I don't believe once it was done, it would have gone to this..screen | 06:41 |
| valorie | so for me, it was ctl alt printscr f | 06:41 |
| valorie | some keyboards have a sysrq button | 06:42 |
| Hepe | my laptop does not | 06:42 |
| valorie | it stops whatever process is locking things up | 06:42 |
| Hepe | how can you press 4 keys at once? :o ctrl+alt+prnt.. +f ? | 06:42 |
| Hepe | (or I understood wrong) | 06:42 |
| valorie | hard on the fingers, for sure | 06:42 |
| Hepe | nothing happened. | 06:43 |
| valorie | and you have to keep pressing f until things unfreeze | 06:43 |
| Hepe | well it hasn't freezed, that lightdm logging screen is just "working" | 06:43 |
| Hepe | ofc if I try to actual login, the last time I tried, it hung again. | 06:43 |
| valorie | huh | 06:43 |
| valorie | freaky | 06:43 |
| Hepe | :| | 06:43 |
| valorie | so why can't you do the full-upgrade? | 06:44 |
| Hepe | I was running that in console, and then my laptop went into screensave...and when I pressed a key to bring it out of it | 06:44 |
| valorie | oh, because you can't re-login | 06:44 |
| Hepe | I was at the lightdm login screen | 06:44 |
| Hepe | and now, doing ctrl+alt+f1/.etc doesn't bring console back | 06:44 |
| valorie | maybe you have to press f like a madman | 06:44 |
| Hepe | how is this happening? :S | 06:45 |
| Hepe | it's a login screen for sure | 06:45 |
| Hepe | the restart. shutdown, suspend buttons work or look like they work too. | 06:45 |
| valorie | lightdm is a monster, I guess | 06:45 |
| valorie | then you might restart I guess | 06:45 |
| valorie | :( | 06:45 |
| Hepe | Welp, I'll try to pay attention the next time to not let it go into screen saver mode .-; | 06:46 |
| valorie | I got through it | 06:46 |
| valorie | you can to | 06:46 |
| valorie | the basic problem is that by installing plasma 5, you are installing unstable software | 06:47 |
| valorie | as did I | 06:47 |
| valorie | 14.04 was dead stable, and it got boring | 06:47 |
| Hepe | omg, now completly white. | 06:47 |
| valorie | nothing to test, no bugs to report | 06:47 |
| Hepe | "white screen" after booting up... | 06:47 |
| Hepe | past the "Kubuntu logo" | 06:47 |
| Hepe | ... | 06:47 |
| valorie | get to a console again | 06:47 |
| Hepe | ok | 06:47 |
| valorie | try: `apt-cache policy lightdm` | 06:48 |
| valorie | if it is still installed, remove it again | 06:48 |
| valorie | I actually had to remove kdm too! | 06:48 |
| valorie | and I've never used it | 06:48 |
| Hepe | Let's see | 06:49 |
| Hepe | "lightdm: | 06:49 |
| Hepe | Installed: (none) | 06:49 |
| valorie | excellent | 06:49 |
| valorie | check for kdm | 06:49 |
| Hepe | Candidate: 1.12.1-0ubuntu1 | 06:49 |
| valorie | that means it is not installed | 06:49 |
| Hepe | ok | 06:50 |
| valorie | ok, can you start again at the top of your little script? | 06:50 |
| Hepe | so same command as above, except for kdm instead of lightdm | 06:50 |
| Hepe | and same sort of thing | 06:50 |
| valorie | yes | 06:50 |
| valorie | ok, I thought you already did that | 06:50 |
| Hepe | Installed: (none) | 06:50 |
| valorie | good | 06:50 |
| valorie | so do again: | 06:51 |
| valorie | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next | 06:51 |
| valorie | sudo apt update | 06:51 |
| valorie | before going any further | 06:51 |
| valorie | if everything is already cool, no harm done | 06:52 |
| * Hepe waits for it to finish updating... | 06:54 | |
| valorie | aha | 06:54 |
| Hepe | ok | 06:54 |
| Hepe | so it's done but | 06:55 |
| valorie | then it had not completely updated before for some reason | 06:55 |
| valorie | but? | 06:55 |
| Hepe | "27 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them." | 06:55 |
| valorie | right, not yet | 06:55 |
| Hepe | ok | 06:55 |
| valorie | sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop | 06:55 |
| Hepe | ok | 06:55 |
| Hepe | and | 06:56 |
| Hepe | "Kubuntu-plasma5-desktop is already the newest version" | 06:56 |
| valorie | cool | 06:56 |
| valorie | now: sudo apt full-upgrade | 06:56 |
| valorie | that will be those 27 packages | 06:57 |
| Hepe | hehe, I've been doing this for a couple of times now....so it's now | 06:57 |
| Hepe | "27 ugraded, 56 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded." | 06:57 |
| valorie | like I said, I had to do it at least twice | 06:57 |
| valorie | cool | 06:58 |
| Hepe | "Need to get 8,819 kb/45.3 mb of archives." | 06:58 |
| Hepe | that, has been reduced ^ | 06:58 |
| valorie | good deal | 06:58 |
| Hepe | it was bigger the first time, and lowered down the second time... fml :D | 06:58 |
| Hepe | (constantly getting interrupted, basically) | 06:58 |
| valorie | no, that means you already got some | 06:59 |
| Hepe | yea | 06:59 |
| Hepe | ugh, I just feel I'll get interrupted again :P | 07:00 |
| Hepe | going to press the key every 1 min to just be safe. | 07:00 |
| Hepe | a * | 07:00 |
| valorie | it shouldn't make a diff, but sure | 07:00 |
| Hepe | that screen saver thing really was weird :/ | 07:00 |
| Hepe | otherwise, yep, it really should not | 07:01 |
| Hepe | 13.5 kb atm ... | 07:06 |
| Hepe | evil internet | 07:06 |
| Hepe | well it's moving between 21 and that sometimes. | 07:06 |
| valorie | my sympathy | 07:08 |
| Hepe | done downloading | 07:09 |
| Hepe | Done. | 07:14 |
| Hepe | So now, reboot? | 07:14 |
| valorie | you can do the install -f if you doubt it | 07:14 |
| valorie | you know about the up-arrow, right? | 07:14 |
| Hepe | yea | 07:15 |
| valorie | ok | 07:15 |
| Hepe | bash history? | 07:15 |
| valorie | yep | 07:15 |
| valorie | less chance of typos | 07:15 |
| Hepe | doing sudo apt install -f resulted in "the following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required' | 07:16 |
| valorie | well, I usually wait for a reboot, but what is it saying will be removed? | 07:16 |
| Hepe | kde-window-manager-common libkdecorations4ab libkwineffects1abi5 plasma-widget-lancelot (I probably made some typos in this list) | 07:16 |
| Hepe | mm I tried to install lancelot recently, but that's beside the point | 07:17 |
| valorie | that's fine, follow that advice | 07:17 |
| * Hepe does apt-get autoremove | 07:17 | |
| valorie | not sure lancelot is available yet for p5 | 07:17 |
| Hepe | done, so now doing sudo reboot | 07:18 |
| valorie | very good | 07:19 |
| Nexia | Sorry for that. | 07:21 |
| Nexia | nick Hepe | 07:22 |
| === Nexia is now known as Hepe | ||
| Hepe | So, after rebooting, it seems to have worked. | 07:22 |
| Hepe | It is different from lightdm indeed :P | 07:22 |
| valorie | \o/ | 07:23 |
| Hepe | Oh my god, this is beautiful | 07:23 |
| Hepe | Thanks a lot valorie :) | 07:24 |
| valorie | now file lotsa bug reports! | 07:24 |
| valorie | and enjoy | 07:24 |
| Hepe | hehe, thanks again. | 07:24 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:53 |
| Hepe | While Plasma 5 is looking good, it's crashing too quickly, like getting "hung" up constantly if I try to do something like open muon and instantly try to search. | 08:32 |
| Hepe | Normal or? | 08:32 |
| valorie | unfortunately will last for a few more days | 08:32 |
| valorie | fixed in git though | 08:33 |
| Hepe | ah | 08:33 |
| valorie | this is what I try first: `kquitapp plasma5 && plasma5 &` | 08:33 |
| Hepe | ok | 08:33 |
| mokush | anybody else experiencing the dolphin freezes with plasma5? it just gets stuck after keeping open for about an hour | 08:34 |
| Hepe | How many days do you approximately mean when you say "a few more days"? :D | 08:34 |
| valorie | but usually I have to: killall -9 plasmashell && plasmashell & | 08:34 |
| valorie | and then: plasmashell </dev/null &>/dev/null & | 08:35 |
| valorie | sad but true | 08:35 |
| valorie | not sure why that fix isn't in /next yet | 08:35 |
| valorie | not what I typed, but the actual fix | 08:35 |
| valorie | what I typed is just a workaround | 08:36 |
| Hepe | I see :o | 08:36 |
| Hepe | better note it on a piece of paper | 08:36 |
| valorie | I learned this in the plasma chan, I didn't make it up.... | 08:37 |
| lordievader | valorie: #plasma? | 08:37 |
| valorie | yes | 08:38 |
| lordievader | Perhaps I should join... | 08:39 |
| valorie | Hepe: can I ask you to go back through your bash history and check that you followed the install instructions perfectly the first time around? | 09:06 |
| valorie | because you encountered so many of the same difficulties | 09:07 |
| valorie | also, does your wireless work normally now? | 09:07 |
| rydhwan | hello allllll | 09:31 |
| lordievader | o/ | 09:32 |
| rydhwan | im in kubuntu plasma 5.1.1 ram in use is 1776 it's enorme ? | 09:33 |
| yossarianuk | rydhwan: is it good btw ? | 09:33 |
| lordievader | rydhwan: What is the uptime? | 09:34 |
| rydhwan | in ram no | 09:34 |
| denysonique | Is Global Menu available for Plasma 5? | 09:34 |
| rydhwan | yes | 09:34 |
| lordievader | rydhwan: For me it was the same yesterday, but that was with an uptime of a day. Today I rebooted, a fresh Plasma5 comsumed ~750 Mb here. | 09:35 |
| denysonique | I have plasma-widget-menubar installed and it does not seem to be available as an item to be added from the panel menu | 09:36 |
| valorie | rydhwan: try (in the cli) `plasmashell </dev/null &>/dev/null &` | 09:36 |
| rydhwan | oh rebooted i wil do | 09:36 |
| valorie | after plasma starts | 09:36 |
| lordievader | valorie: Does plasmashell need input? | 09:36 |
| valorie | there is currently a bug which causes almost constant error messages, now fixed in git | 09:36 |
| valorie | that just hides those errors instead of saving them on your disk | 09:37 |
| valorie | or rather, disappears them | 09:37 |
| valorie | lordievader: it works for me just as I pasted | 09:37 |
| * lordievader thinks the '</dev/null' is too much. | 09:38 | |
| rydhwan | plasmashell </dev/null &>/dev/null & [1] 23716 | 09:40 |
| rydhwan | what's that | 09:41 |
| valorie | it works..... | 09:41 |
| denysonique | rydhwan: I do not see it as an option to add to a panel (the global menu) | 09:41 |
| valorie | not sure what the message is; plasma 5 stops crashing when I do that | 09:41 |
| bewolf | hi | 09:58 |
| bewolf | there is a franch channel ? | 09:58 |
| bewolf | french* | 09:59 |
| bewolf | ubuntu-french ;) | 09:59 |
| bewolf | thks | 09:59 |
| lordievader | !french | 10:00 |
| ubottu | Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 10:00 |
| lordievader | bewolf: ^ | 10:00 |
| bewolf | thks lordievader ;) | 10:00 |
| === doge is now known as c[_] | ||
| yossarianuk | this maybe a question for #kde really - but here goes .... is there a way to see what time you locked your desktop ? (using KDE) | 11:37 |
| yossarianuk | as sometimes I forget to check what time i locked my desktop when i go for lunch .... | 11:37 |
| yossarianuk | (and want to know when I should be back @ work..) | 11:37 |
| yossarianuk | is that logged anywhere ? | 11:37 |
| hateball | yossarianuk: doesnt seem like it | 11:39 |
| hateball | one could probably write a wrapper around kscreensaver that touches a file or some such at launch | 11:39 |
| yossarianuk | hateball:ok - worth asking ... | 11:39 |
| yossarianuk | maybe I should write a lunchtime.sh script... | 11:40 |
| nagerst | where can i find qtcurve-qt5 for ubuntu? | 11:42 |
| soee | nagerst: some libs or are you talking about kde-style-qtcurve5 ? | 11:44 |
| nagerst | the latter | 11:45 |
| soee | what kubuntu version are you running ? | 11:46 |
| nagerst | trusty | 11:46 |
| soee | nagerst: i think its not availabel for trusty | 11:47 |
| soee | atleast not from ubuntu repositories | 11:48 |
| nagerst | that i know | 11:48 |
| nagerst | this ppa claims successful builds | 11:48 |
| nagerst | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6385865 | 11:48 |
| nagerst | but the packages is not available when you look in the ppa | 11:48 |
| soee | nagerst: but it is kde-style-qtcurve not kde-style-qtcurve5 | 11:49 |
| soee | but anyway it sis for utopic | 11:50 |
| nagerst | i could just do a dist-upgrade. no biggie | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 12:08 |
| alket-w | hi | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | hi alket-w | 12:14 |
| alket-w | finally from this week , they let me use kubuntu at work, after 1 year :) | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | so no apps that require windows at your workplace? | 12:16 |
| alket-w | i'm web dev | 12:18 |
| alket-w | i have to use some psd , but i can do it now with brackets | 12:18 |
| BluesKaj | alket-w, what's the attitude towards linux in your workplace? | 12:20 |
| alket-w | I was the first to mention it :) | 12:22 |
| alket-w | they're afarid so i cannot be productive enough | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | heh, they should be more afraid of windows | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | Windows finally patched a line of code that made all windows OSs since W95 vulnerable to remote control after 19 yrs | 12:29 |
| denysonique | LOL | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | the IT guys where I used to work think linux is just for hobbyists and not to be taken seriously ...was very surprised by that statement | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | since they run Cisco servers etc | 12:36 |
| alket-w | lol | 12:41 |
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| === dlfr is now known as doge | ||
| vros | how to remove Akonadi? | 13:42 |
| vros | ~kubuntu 12.04 | 13:43 |
| BluesKaj | vros, you can't without taking the kubuntu-desktop with it | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | just don't enable it | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | unless you plan on using kmail and other PIM apps | 13:46 |
| vros_ | I know it. Surprise me! | 13:49 |
| vros_ | or maybe crash something, that the akonadi can't start | 13:51 |
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| === hansinou is now known as Bouib | ||
| Riddell | ** Kubuntu talk n 45 mins at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22363/community-1411-showoff-kubuntu-plasma-/ | 14:15 |
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| === Limiti_Invisibil is now known as faLUCE | ||
| vros | How to remove Akonadi? | 15:49 |
| vros | or maybe crash something, that the akonadi can't start | 15:49 |
| vros | need more kb in memory and more privacy. Build it on lowlatency. | 15:49 |
| === Limiti_Invisibil is now known as faLUCE | ||
| vros | &? | 15:52 |
| rom1504 | yeah indeed I need more knowledge base in memory too | 15:54 |
| vros | How to remove Akonadi? | 15:55 |
| rom1504 | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+remove+akonadi | 15:56 |
| BerWeb | Hey there! | 16:04 |
| BerWeb | Have Kubuntu any sofware programm, like in wubuntu "Software centre" ? | 16:04 |
| BerWeb | *ubuntu | 16:05 |
| lordievader | BerWeb: Yes, Muon. | 16:05 |
| BerWeb | Awesome, I really like linux (*buntu) | 16:06 |
| BerWeb | :-) | 16:06 |
| BerWeb | Thankls | 16:06 |
| rom1504 | BerWeb: what about apt-get ? | 16:07 |
| BerWeb | i think apt-get are in there.. | 16:09 |
| vros | BerWeb, Synaptic still best | 16:09 |
| BluesKaj | BerWeb, kmenu>apps>software center | 16:10 |
| vros | However, if I remove Akonady, then I'll see clear X. then how to install graphic's? | 16:12 |
| vros | seems need slack repos for rebuild kde | 16:13 |
| vros | How to rebuild kde without akonadi (ubuntu 12.04 lowlatency)? | 16:19 |
| vros | seems it is guru's question) | 16:21 |
| BluesKaj | vros, very difficult | 16:22 |
| vros | ...&? | 16:23 |
| vros | ... sudo apt-get remove kubuntu???) | 16:23 |
| BluesKaj | akonadi is default in kde | 16:24 |
| rberg_ | vros: have you build debian packages before? | 16:25 |
| vros | from sources - yes/ from deb*s - yes/ | 16:25 |
| BluesKaj | akonadi is not a large footprint despite what users think, diabling is as good as not having it installed | 16:27 |
| BluesKaj | disabling | 16:27 |
| lordievader | vros: That will likely break a lot of things. | 16:27 |
| alket | why would one want to remove akonadi ? | 16:27 |
| lordievader | Besided custom compiling is not supported on Ubuntu. | 16:27 |
| lordievader | Besides* | 16:27 |
| EvilRoey | Besides,* | 16:28 |
| * EvilRoey runs | 16:28 | |
| * EvilRoey screams "HI ALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!" from a slap-safe distance | 16:28 | |
| vros | BluesKaj, *NEED_REMOVE_AKONADY* | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | akonadi is unecessary for a lot of users, me included, but ridding your OS of it will make an unmeasurablr difference to it's performance | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | err unmeasureable | 16:29 |
| vros | ... for my black toools) | 16:30 |
| alket | yeah I never use it too , but doesn't bother me just staying there | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | vros, no don't NEED to remove it | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | vros, I admit I used to feel the same about akondi, but now I've learned to turn it off and forget about it. | 16:31 |
| vros | BluesKaj, +1 to you) but need. Akonady put some crash for my backtrack tools. | 16:31 |
| BluesKaj | we don't support backtrack here | 16:32 |
| vros | disabling don't fix it. | 16:32 |
| lordievader | vros: Backtrack was a distro... now known as Kali Linux. That it once was based on Ubuntu doesn't mean we support it. | 16:34 |
| BluesKaj | well face it vros, you either change your OS or desktop, you have to decide what course you want to to follow | 16:34 |
| vros | I don't say any quastion's about other os/ I JUST NEED TO REMOVE THIS (stupid) AKONADY/ | 16:34 |
| BluesKaj | vros, you can't without losing the desktop ,and that's all i have to say about it ... | 16:35 |
| rberg_ | yeah it looks like removing the akonadi packages will take alot with it :( | 16:37 |
| BluesKaj | or you can run with this instead http://awesome.naquadah.org/, or a different desktop altogether | 16:37 |
| vros | I know that about Kali's, Backtrack's. The still on audit way. But I use some set of tools from there. And loved plasma desktop/but need tools/but love plasma/... | 16:38 |
| vros | BluesKaj, I know that i must crush plasma and get clear X. The how to build plasma without akonadi? | 16:39 |
| vros | Then* | 16:39 |
| vros | other desktop graphical platform's don't needed | 16:43 |
| BluesKaj | vros, install plasma5 | 16:43 |
| BluesKaj | no akonadi included so far | 16:44 |
| BluesKaj | oops spoke too soon, akonadi is now included, unfortunately | 16:45 |
| vros | googled infos about new plasma.. nice but run akonady now. | 17:10 |
| stuq | no composting in plasma5 yet? | 17:11 |
| vros | runing 12.04 and 4.8.5kde | 17:12 |
| vros | as a thing of that way, maybe find nightly dev repos for that time when akonady still dont added to project | 17:13 |
| vros | it seems to help of dev's plasma 5 project | 17:15 |
| Riddell | stuq: it has compositing | 17:19 |
| stuq | yes *compositing* ;-)... hmm. ok, not working for me yet, I'll explore... | 17:19 |
| === FR-PC is now known as FlameReaper-PC | ||
| lordievader | stuq: Not even XRender? | 17:29 |
| stuq | lordievader: yeah, just boot plasma5 this am... xrender is now working... | 17:29 |
| lordievader | stuq: Then likely your OpenGL driver is broken. | 17:31 |
| stuq | :-( | 17:31 |
| stuq | Card: Intel 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller | 17:31 |
| lordievader | stuq: What card + driver? | 17:31 |
| lordievader | Hmm, what is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'? | 17:31 |
| stuq | Display Server: X.Org 1.16.0 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) | 17:33 |
| stuq | lordievader: no output on the grep of A2 | 17:34 |
| stuq | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) | 17:34 |
| lordievader | stuq: No output at all? | 17:36 |
| stuq | well it's treating '-A2' as an urecognized grep switch | 17:36 |
| stuq | but no A2 or VGA except what I listed | 17:37 |
| BluesKaj | stuq, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes | 17:37 |
| lordievader | stuq: That's odd.. it is a valid grep switch. | 17:37 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, yeah your command works here | 17:38 |
| stuq | no, my mistake, missed the VGA as an arg. | 17:38 |
| stuq | but now it just returns a '>' prompt | 17:38 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 17:38 |
| BluesKaj | no quotes for lordievader's command | 17:39 |
| stuq | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) | 17:39 |
| stuq | Subsystem: Dell OptiPlex 755 | 17:39 |
| stuq | Kernel driver in use: i915 | 17:39 |
| stuq | Ok, sorry - not awake yet...... | 17:39 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that should be fine. | 17:39 |
| stuq | on boot, the compositer settings windows, says it's turned off because of a possible driver bug... | 17:40 |
| stuq | BluesKaj: thanks for the catch... I have to turn the heat up in my house, my hands are too cold to type ;-) | 17:41 |
| stuq | first snow of the year here last night | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | stuq, we have some here too | 17:42 |
| === ksinny_ is now known as ksinny | ||
| EvilRoey | stuq: aren't you an internet worm for Persian nuclear devices? | 18:01 |
| EvilRoey | *Iranian | 18:01 |
| stuq | heh, caught ;-) I'm also the first worm to pass the Turing Test.... | 18:01 |
| rom1504 | he is, but you made him evil | 18:01 |
| EvilRoey | aha! | 18:04 |
| EvilRoey | stuq.doEvilDeeds(); | 18:04 |
| EvilRoey | there we go | 18:05 |
| EvilRoey | stuq.doStuff(evil=True) | 18:05 |
| EvilRoey | combination Stuxnet and Duqu | 18:05 |
| === turgay1 is now known as turgay | ||
| stuq | ssshhh - I'm supposed to be a secret... | 18:06 |
| EvilRoey | oh! that's right. I'll keep a lookout for you | 18:06 |
| === turgay1 is now known as turgay | ||
| che757 | so i have another really noob question. i'm trying to download a .nzb file from usenet, and i'm using sabnzbd which apparently runs inside of firefox. anyways when I try and download the nzb it tries to open in firefox, and I click browse but I have no idea where the executable for sannzbd is on my computer (also the search function doesn't seem to work). Any ideas? | 19:23 |
| che757 | kubuntu 14.04 | 19:23 |
| MoonUnit` | sabnzbd runs it's own web server, try http://localhost:8080 | 19:28 |
| bprompt | hmm | 19:41 |
| bprompt | che757: you could try running a find -> find / -name *nzb | 19:43 |
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| === kevin is now known as Guest89056 | ||
| kavaco | how to set the amd radeon as default, on hybrid system? | 20:26 |
| kavaco | the opensource driver | 20:27 |
| kavaco | using the opensorce driver | 20:27 |
| kavaco | the intel video card is the default card now | 20:27 |
| kavaco | lordievader: i reinstall the kubuntu. | 20:29 |
| kavaco | lordievader, lordievader_: I would use the opensorce driver. Can you help me? | 20:30 |
| soee__ | kavaco: the propriety drivers probably have some controll panel to switch | 20:32 |
| soee__ | im not usre im on intel/nvidia | 20:32 |
| soee__ | and we have it in nvidia-settings | 20:33 |
| lordievader | kavaco: You don't have to do anything for that, radeon is installed by default. | 20:33 |
| === soee__ is now known as soee | ||
| kavaco | how to check this? | 20:35 |
| kavaco | before reinstalling the kubuntu did not run some games that require the Radeon | 20:35 |
| kavaco | but, how to verify? | 20:36 |
| soee | verify what ? | 20:37 |
| kavaco | default video card | 20:42 |
| kavaco | i have two: intel hd and amd radeon | 20:43 |
| kavaco | see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9012491/ | 20:43 |
| kavaco | hybrid amd/intel | 20:43 |
| kavaco | on dell inspiron 5447(brazillian version) | 20:43 |
| kavaco | lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9012491/ | 20:44 |
| kavaco | lordievader: it's installed, but is not the default video card | 20:45 |
| kavaco | soee: it's installed, but is not the default video card | 20:45 |
| kavaco | intel is default | 20:45 |
| kavaco | on BIOS there is not a option to select the amd as dafault | 20:46 |
| kavaco | soee: understand?(my english is bad :/ ) | 20:47 |
| lordievader | kavaco: I have never had a system with a hybrid in my hands, so I have no idea. | 20:49 |
| kavaco | lordievader: ok, thank you!! | 20:50 |
| ricardo_ | hi i have ubuntu 14.10 in my pc. I connected mi pc to my tv through a hdmi cable. The film was active in my pc but not in my tv. Is there some body to help me? thanks | 20:52 |
| soee | kavaco: i suggest ti install propriety drivers | 21:03 |
| soee | catalyst or what they are called | 21:03 |
| soee | than the switch should be easy with their gui | 21:03 |
| bprompt | kavaco: http://planetoss.com/articles/how-to-disable-the-discrete-amd-graphics-card-in-linux/ maybe? | 21:04 |
| kavaco | soee: ok, I'll try again. Previously the driver would not let the catalyst xorg start | 21:04 |
| shallwe | hello guys! have a problem, my Muon pakage manager, the menu item its gonne! | 21:06 |
| shallwe | how can i restore it please? | 21:06 |
| kavaco | thanks bprompt, i to try this, if the amd catalyst dont work | 21:06 |
| soee | shallwe: menu bar ? | 21:07 |
| shallwe | soee: yes ! | 21:07 |
| shallwe | i dont know the short cuts :( cant find it for enable | 21:08 |
| soee | shallwe: usually it is CTRL + M | 21:09 |
| shallwe | no :( i tryed, ctrl + m works on anothers apps, but in Muon not :( | 21:09 |
| soee | shallwe: but to be sue the FIle | Edit etc. menu is gone ? | 21:11 |
| shallwe | soee: yah theres no menu bar. but wait please found some different in google! | 21:11 |
| shallwe | soee: got!!! its a bug, if you disable it, cant enable again haha | 21:14 |
| shallwe | found it "renaming the original (~/.kde/share/config/muon-discoverrc), restarted muon discovery and a new rc was generated plus the menu bar reappeared." | 21:14 |
| shallwe | ty | 21:14 |
| soee | :) | 21:15 |
| shallwe | man this plasma 5 is greate! very fast and smoooth | 21:52 |
| soee | true :) | 21:52 |
| soee | though its missign some features | 21:52 |
| shallwe | soee: yes, but soon | 21:52 |
| shallwe | now at last mail works ! | 21:52 |
| shallwe | and kontakts too | 21:52 |
| shallwe | but ther performance for old pcs like core 2 duo ... is great! running with 2gb ram, full desktop using google chorme, and lot more apps, getting 1.3 of ram ! | 21:54 |
| shallwe | btw the unity... | 21:54 |
| soee | :) | 21:59 |
| soee | well can't say how it works on older machines | 21:59 |
| soee | !info | 21:59 |
| Daniell_ | Hey guys, anyone knows what happened to ppa neon/kf5 ? I can only add the ppa:neon/ppa. When I add the neon/kf5, it says "Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:neon/kf5'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct." | 22:37 |
| Daniell_ | I'm using kubuntu trusty | 22:39 |
| valorie | Daniell_: that has been discontinued | 22:47 |
| valorie | if you want to test plasma 5 now, you'll need to upgrade to 14.10 and install the next ppa, or try out the plasma 5 iso | 22:48 |
| soee | valorie: if you know more can you answer this user: https://plus.google.com/107885265498625428468/posts/PJpRazMb8tF ? | 22:48 |
| valorie | (best option actually) | 22:48 |
| valorie | done, thanks soee | 22:50 |
| Daniell_ | valorie: Thank you for your response :) | 22:52 |
| valorie | Daniell_: thanks for testing! | 22:53 |
| valorie | keep the bug reports rolling in | 22:53 |
| valorie | please | 22:53 |
| valorie | also, that neon ppa should be killed too | 22:54 |
| * valorie reports | 22:54 | |
| rww | valorie: does the next PPA put stuff in /opt like Neon did, or does it upgrade normal system KDE? | 23:10 |
| valorie | nothing in /opt anymore | 23:11 |
| valorie | it upgrades plasma and you'll no longer have plasma stable | 23:11 |
| valorie | so it is a chance | 23:11 |
| rww | boo. that was one of the plus points of Kubuntu for me | 23:12 |
| * valorie got bored with the bedrock stability of 14.04 and shot for the moon | 23:12 | |
| soee | user like Plasma 5 :) [22:52] <shallwe> man this plasma 5 is greate! very fast and smoooth | 23:12 |
| soee | *users | 23:12 |
| valorie | really, 14.10+plasma 5 is great | 23:12 |
| soee | true, i can confirm | 23:12 |
| valorie | not feature complete yet though | 23:12 |
| valorie | so lots of opportunity to file bugs! | 23:13 |
| valorie | :-) | 23:13 |
| soee | whats more latest Nvidia beta drivers = boost in games etc. | 23:13 |
| shallwe | desktop using, plasma 5 its ok | 23:13 |
| shallwe | some crashs ! buts ok, its when closing apps, not when using apps ! | 23:13 |
| soee | shallwe: thats strange, what apps ? | 23:14 |
| shallwe | krita | 23:14 |
| shallwe | vlc, sometimes | 23:14 |
| shallwe | but never crash when im using apps, only when i close them | 23:14 |
| shallwe | in some cases | 23:15 |
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