=== alket_ is now known as alket === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === kyle is now known as Guest45930 === moondog is now known as Guest8973 === infyrin is now known as mmotk [04:58] im a man [04:59] config [04:59] ha === kevin is now known as Guest22381 [06:05] Hello again. (I have Kubuntu 14.10 which I recently upgraded from 14.04.1 LTS) So in an attempt to install Plasma 5, I tried to follow the following commands http://pastebin.com/pByGC4SK, as found in the http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu page. [06:07] Suddenly though, after sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop, my network stopped working. And I couldn't re-connect back via the network manage applet at all. [06:07] So, I did sudo reboot, which was the next step. After rebooting though, I couldn't go beyond the lightdm login screen, (it hangs). [06:08] I'm sure lightdm is supposed to be replaced by sddm, although I'm not sure how sddm is supposed to look like. [06:08] hepe, did you choose SDDM or lightdm? [06:09] During the installation, I did choose ssdm. [06:09] For sure. [06:09] sddm * [06:09] ok, try in the console: `sudo apt remove lightdm` [06:09] ok [06:10] we've found that for a few, including me, it isn't removed correctly [06:11] I also encountered that network-manager bug [06:11] (basically I couldn't do that sudo apt full-upgrade commad, and it's not exactly completing well with my shit connection via wvdial in the console ;p) [06:11] Ah ok. [06:11] do you have access to a wire? [06:11] No :( [06:12] :( [06:12] at least you have some connection [06:12] I did however, get wvdial working with my wireless modem. [06:12] Yep. [06:12] excellent [06:13] was lightdm removed when you did that above command? [06:14] Just did it- and yes, it apparently has been removed. Should I reboot? [06:14] well, how about `sudo apt install -f` first [06:14] to make sure everything that should be installed, is [06:14] ok [06:15] Nothing really from that command, just 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded. [06:16] so, any reason not to do the `sudo apt full-upgrade` now? [06:16] it's really best to complete the upgrade before rebooting [06:16] * Hepe connects to modem [06:17] to be honest, I had to do this a few times [06:17] update, install -f , full-upgrade [06:18] and I had to install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop more than once as well [06:18] best to follow the script as precisely as you can [06:18] sec [06:27] Hepe: still here? [06:27] Yea. [06:27] you may need to use: sudo start sddm [06:27] if it doesn't [06:27] Sorry, having problems upgrading with my shit connection :P [06:27] also, what I used to get online was nmcli [06:27] now it worked though, so just staring at the screen. [06:28] hard to figure out how to use, but by constantly reading man nmcli, I was able to work out how to turn on my connection again [06:28] nmcli is really weird [06:28] yes [06:29] or at least, too hard for me -.- [06:29] I know I did the correct ID for my connection..but it wouldn't do it so meh. [06:29] one step at a time [06:29] well you have to use one part for discovery [06:29] and another to get a connection [06:30] uber-strange indeed [06:35] omg this is the second time that it has happened. [06:36] I think: my laptop sent in screen saver mode, but when I pressed a key, it went into the light dm login screen. [06:36] and now doing ctrl+alt+f1/f2 is not working... [06:36] any way to bring back the console? [06:38] or do I have to reboot again? :/ [06:38] yikes, lightdm wasn't removed? [06:38] I don't know how sddm is supposed to look...does it look radically different? [06:39] because this looks like lightdm. [06:39] yes, I think so [06:39] can't remember what the lightdm used to look like [06:39] (I don't use the lightdm classic user bar thing)... so everything is like before including my custom lightdm wallpaper [06:39] :( [06:39] besides this small button under the password box [06:40] like, it has become super tiny? [06:40] "plasma workspace" button or something [06:40] so there is alt+sys+rq+4 [06:40] let me look that up [06:40] so I don't misquote [06:41] ugh, I want to see that sudo apt full-upgrade process completed [06:41] yes [06:41] I don't believe once it was done, it would have gone to this..screen [06:41] so for me, it was ctl alt printscr f [06:42] some keyboards have a sysrq button [06:42] my laptop does not [06:42] it stops whatever process is locking things up [06:42] how can you press 4 keys at once? :o ctrl+alt+prnt.. +f ? [06:42] (or I understood wrong) [06:42] hard on the fingers, for sure [06:43] nothing happened. [06:43] and you have to keep pressing f until things unfreeze [06:43] well it hasn't freezed, that lightdm logging screen is just "working" [06:43] ofc if I try to actual login, the last time I tried, it hung again. [06:43] huh [06:43] freaky [06:43] :| [06:44] so why can't you do the full-upgrade? [06:44] I was running that in console, and then my laptop went into screensave...and when I pressed a key to bring it out of it [06:44] oh, because you can't re-login [06:44] I was at the lightdm login screen [06:44] and now, doing ctrl+alt+f1/.etc doesn't bring console back [06:44] maybe you have to press f like a madman [06:45] how is this happening? :S [06:45] it's a login screen for sure [06:45] the restart. shutdown, suspend buttons work or look like they work too. [06:45] lightdm is a monster, I guess [06:45] then you might restart I guess [06:45] :( [06:46] Welp, I'll try to pay attention the next time to not let it go into screen saver mode .-; [06:46] I got through it [06:46] you can to [06:47] the basic problem is that by installing plasma 5, you are installing unstable software [06:47] as did I [06:47] 14.04 was dead stable, and it got boring [06:47] omg, now completly white. [06:47] nothing to test, no bugs to report [06:47] "white screen" after booting up... [06:47] past the "Kubuntu logo" [06:47] ... [06:47] get to a console again [06:47] ok [06:48] try: `apt-cache policy lightdm` [06:48] if it is still installed, remove it again [06:48] I actually had to remove kdm too! [06:48] and I've never used it [06:49] Let's see [06:49] "lightdm: [06:49] Installed: (none) [06:49] excellent [06:49] check for kdm [06:49] Candidate: 1.12.1-0ubuntu1 [06:49] that means it is not installed [06:50] ok [06:50] ok, can you start again at the top of your little script? [06:50] so same command as above, except for kdm instead of lightdm [06:50] and same sort of thing [06:50] yes [06:50] ok, I thought you already did that [06:50] Installed: (none) [06:50] good [06:51] so do again: [06:51] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next [06:51] sudo apt update [06:51] before going any further [06:52] if everything is already cool, no harm done [06:54] * Hepe waits for it to finish updating... [06:54] aha [06:54] ok [06:55] so it's done but [06:55] then it had not completely updated before for some reason [06:55] but? [06:55] "27 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them." [06:55] right, not yet [06:55] ok [06:55] sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop [06:55] ok [06:56] and [06:56] "Kubuntu-plasma5-desktop is already the newest version" [06:56] cool [06:56] now: sudo apt full-upgrade [06:57] that will be those 27 packages [06:57] hehe, I've been doing this for a couple of times now....so it's now [06:57] "27 ugraded, 56 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded." [06:57] like I said, I had to do it at least twice [06:58] cool [06:58] "Need to get 8,819 kb/45.3 mb of archives." [06:58] that, has been reduced ^ [06:58] good deal [06:58] it was bigger the first time, and lowered down the second time... fml :D [06:58] (constantly getting interrupted, basically) [06:59] no, that means you already got some [06:59] yea [07:00] ugh, I just feel I'll get interrupted again :P [07:00] going to press the key every 1 min to just be safe. [07:00] a * [07:00] it shouldn't make a diff, but sure [07:00] that screen saver thing really was weird :/ [07:01] otherwise, yep, it really should not [07:06] 13.5 kb atm ... [07:06] evil internet [07:06] well it's moving between 21 and that sometimes. [07:08] my sympathy [07:09] done downloading [07:14] Done. [07:14] So now, reboot? [07:14] you can do the install -f if you doubt it [07:14] you know about the up-arrow, right? [07:15] yea [07:15] ok [07:15] bash history? [07:15] yep [07:15] less chance of typos [07:16] doing sudo apt install -f resulted in "the following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required' [07:16] well, I usually wait for a reboot, but what is it saying will be removed? [07:16] kde-window-manager-common libkdecorations4ab libkwineffects1abi5 plasma-widget-lancelot (I probably made some typos in this list) [07:17] mm I tried to install lancelot recently, but that's beside the point [07:17] that's fine, follow that advice [07:17] * Hepe does apt-get autoremove [07:17] not sure lancelot is available yet for p5 [07:18] done, so now doing sudo reboot [07:19] very good [07:21] Sorry for that. [07:22] nick Hepe === Nexia is now known as Hepe [07:22] So, after rebooting, it seems to have worked. [07:22] It is different from lightdm indeed :P [07:23] \o/ [07:23] Oh my god, this is beautiful [07:24] Thanks a lot valorie :) [07:24] now file lotsa bug reports! [07:24] and enjoy [07:24] hehe, thanks again. [07:53] Good morning. [08:32] While Plasma 5 is looking good, it's crashing too quickly, like getting "hung" up constantly if I try to do something like open muon and instantly try to search. [08:32] Normal or? [08:32] unfortunately will last for a few more days [08:33] fixed in git though [08:33] ah [08:33] this is what I try first: `kquitapp plasma5 && plasma5 &` [08:33] ok [08:34] anybody else experiencing the dolphin freezes with plasma5? it just gets stuck after keeping open for about an hour [08:34] How many days do you approximately mean when you say "a few more days"? :D [08:34] but usually I have to: killall -9 plasmashell && plasmashell & [08:35] and then: plasmashell /dev/null & [08:35] sad but true [08:35] not sure why that fix isn't in /next yet [08:35] not what I typed, but the actual fix [08:36] what I typed is just a workaround [08:36] I see :o [08:36] better note it on a piece of paper [08:37] I learned this in the plasma chan, I didn't make it up.... [08:37] valorie: #plasma? [08:38] yes [08:39] Perhaps I should join... [09:06] Hepe: can I ask you to go back through your bash history and check that you followed the install instructions perfectly the first time around? [09:07] because you encountered so many of the same difficulties [09:07] also, does your wireless work normally now? [09:31] hello allllll [09:32] o/ [09:33] im in kubuntu plasma 5.1.1 ram in use is 1776 it's enorme ? [09:33] rydhwan: is it good btw ? [09:34] rydhwan: What is the uptime? [09:34] in ram no [09:34] Is Global Menu available for Plasma 5? [09:34] yes [09:35] rydhwan: For me it was the same yesterday, but that was with an uptime of a day. Today I rebooted, a fresh Plasma5 comsumed ~750 Mb here. [09:36] I have plasma-widget-menubar installed and it does not seem to be available as an item to be added from the panel menu [09:36] rydhwan: try (in the cli) `plasmashell /dev/null &` [09:36] oh rebooted i wil do [09:36] after plasma starts [09:36] valorie: Does plasmashell need input? [09:36] there is currently a bug which causes almost constant error messages, now fixed in git [09:37] that just hides those errors instead of saving them on your disk [09:37] or rather, disappears them [09:37] lordievader: it works for me just as I pasted [09:38] * lordievader thinks the ' plasmashell /dev/null & [1] 23716 [09:41] what's that [09:41] it works..... [09:41] rydhwan: I do not see it as an option to add to a panel (the global menu) [09:41] not sure what the message is; plasma 5 stops crashing when I do that [09:58] hi [09:58] there is a franch channel ? [09:59] french* [09:59] ubuntu-french ;) [09:59] thks [10:00] !french [10:00] Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [10:00] bewolf: ^ [10:00] thks lordievader ;) === doge is now known as c[_] [11:37] this maybe a question for #kde really - but here goes .... is there a way to see what time you locked your desktop ? (using KDE) [11:37] as sometimes I forget to check what time i locked my desktop when i go for lunch .... [11:37] (and want to know when I should be back @ work..) [11:37] is that logged anywhere ? [11:39] yossarianuk: doesnt seem like it [11:39] one could probably write a wrapper around kscreensaver that touches a file or some such at launch [11:39] hateball:ok - worth asking ... [11:40] maybe I should write a lunchtime.sh script... [11:42] where can i find qtcurve-qt5 for ubuntu? [11:44] nagerst: some libs or are you talking about kde-style-qtcurve5 ? [11:45] the latter [11:46] what kubuntu version are you running ? [11:46] trusty [11:47] nagerst: i think its not availabel for trusty [11:48] atleast not from ubuntu repositories [11:48] that i know [11:48] this ppa claims successful builds [11:48] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/6385865 [11:48] but the packages is not available when you look in the ppa [11:49] nagerst: but it is kde-style-qtcurve not kde-style-qtcurve5 [11:50] but anyway it sis for utopic [11:50] i could just do a dist-upgrade. no biggie [12:08] Howdy folks [12:14] hi [12:14] hi alket-w [12:15] finally from this week , they let me use kubuntu at work, after 1 year :) [12:16] so no apps that require windows at your workplace? [12:18] i'm web dev [12:18] i have to use some psd , but i can do it now with brackets [12:20] alket-w, what's the attitude towards linux in your workplace? [12:22] I was the first to mention it :) [12:23] they're afarid so i cannot be productive enough [12:24] heh, they should be more afraid of windows [12:29] Windows finally patched a line of code that made all windows OSs since W95 vulnerable to remote control after 19 yrs [12:29] LOL [12:31] the IT guys where I used to work think linux is just for hobbyists and not to be taken seriously ...was very surprised by that statement [12:36] since they run Cisco servers etc [12:41] lol === c[_] is now known as dlfr === dlfr is now known as doge [13:42] how to remove Akonadi? [13:43] ~kubuntu 12.04 [13:45] vros, you can't without taking the kubuntu-desktop with it [13:45] just don't enable it [13:46] unless you plan on using kmail and other PIM apps [13:49] I know it. Surprise me! [13:51] or maybe crash something, that the akonadi can't start === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt === hansinou is now known as Bouib [14:15] ** Kubuntu talk n 45 mins at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22363/community-1411-showoff-kubuntu-plasma-/ === sid_ is now known as sid3129 === Limiti_Invisibil is now known as faLUCE [15:49] How to remove Akonadi? [15:49] or maybe crash something, that the akonadi can't start [15:49] need more kb in memory and more privacy. Build it on lowlatency. === Limiti_Invisibil is now known as faLUCE [15:52] &? [15:54] yeah indeed I need more knowledge base in memory too [15:55] How to remove Akonadi? [15:56] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+remove+akonadi [16:04] Hey there! [16:04] Have Kubuntu any sofware programm, like in wubuntu "Software centre" ? [16:05] *ubuntu [16:05] BerWeb: Yes, Muon. [16:06] Awesome, I really like linux (*buntu) [16:06] :-) [16:06] Thankls [16:07] BerWeb: what about apt-get ? [16:09] i think apt-get are in there.. [16:09] BerWeb, Synaptic still best [16:10] BerWeb, kmenu>apps>software center [16:12] However, if I remove Akonady, then I'll see clear X. then how to install graphic's? [16:13] seems need slack repos for rebuild kde [16:19] How to rebuild kde without akonadi (ubuntu 12.04 lowlatency)? [16:21] seems it is guru's question) [16:22] vros, very difficult [16:23] ...&? [16:23] ... sudo apt-get remove kubuntu???) [16:24] akonadi is default in kde [16:25] vros: have you build debian packages before? [16:25] from sources - yes/ from deb*s - yes/ [16:27] akonadi is not a large footprint despite what users think, diabling is as good as not having it installed [16:27] disabling [16:27] vros: That will likely break a lot of things. [16:27] why would one want to remove akonadi ? [16:27] Besided custom compiling is not supported on Ubuntu. [16:27] Besides* [16:28] Besides,* [16:28] * EvilRoey runs [16:28] * EvilRoey screams "HI ALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!" from a slap-safe distance [16:29] BluesKaj, *NEED_REMOVE_AKONADY* [16:29] akonadi is unecessary for a lot of users, me included, but ridding your OS of it will make an unmeasurablr difference to it's performance [16:29] err unmeasureable [16:30] ... for my black toools) [16:30] yeah I never use it too , but doesn't bother me just staying there [16:30] vros, no don't NEED to remove it [16:31] vros, I admit I used to feel the same about akondi, but now I've learned to turn it off and forget about it. [16:31] BluesKaj, +1 to you) but need. Akonady put some crash for my backtrack tools. [16:32] we don't support backtrack here [16:32] disabling don't fix it. [16:34] vros: Backtrack was a distro... now known as Kali Linux. That it once was based on Ubuntu doesn't mean we support it. [16:34] well face it vros, you either change your OS or desktop, you have to decide what course you want to to follow [16:34] I don't say any quastion's about other os/ I JUST NEED TO REMOVE THIS (stupid) AKONADY/ [16:35] vros, you can't without losing the desktop ,and that's all i have to say about it ... [16:37] yeah it looks like removing the akonadi packages will take alot with it :( [16:37] or you can run with this instead http://awesome.naquadah.org/, or a different desktop altogether [16:38] I know that about Kali's, Backtrack's. The still on audit way. But I use some set of tools from there. And loved plasma desktop/but need tools/but love plasma/... [16:39] BluesKaj, I know that i must crush plasma and get clear X. The how to build plasma without akonadi? [16:39] Then* [16:43] other desktop graphical platform's don't needed [16:43] vros, install plasma5 [16:44] no akonadi included so far [16:45] oops spoke too soon, akonadi is now included, unfortunately [17:10] googled infos about new plasma.. nice but run akonady now. [17:11] no composting in plasma5 yet? [17:12] runing 12.04 and 4.8.5kde [17:13] as a thing of that way, maybe find nightly dev repos for that time when akonady still dont added to project [17:15] it seems to help of dev's plasma 5 project [17:19] stuq: it has compositing [17:19] yes *compositing* ;-)... hmm. ok, not working for me yet, I'll explore... === FR-PC is now known as FlameReaper-PC [17:29] stuq: Not even XRender? [17:29] lordievader: yeah, just boot plasma5 this am... xrender is now working... [17:31] stuq: Then likely your OpenGL driver is broken. [17:31] :-( [17:31] Card: Intel 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller [17:31] stuq: What card + driver? [17:31] Hmm, what is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'? [17:33] Display Server: X.Org 1.16.0 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) [17:34] lordievader: no output on the grep of A2 [17:34] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [17:36] stuq: No output at all? [17:36] well it's treating '-A2' as an urecognized grep switch [17:37] but no A2 or VGA except what I listed [17:37] stuq, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes [17:37] stuq: That's odd.. it is a valid grep switch. [17:38] lordievader, yeah your command works here [17:38] no, my mistake, missed the VGA as an arg. [17:38] but now it just returns a '>' prompt [17:38] ok [17:39] no quotes for lordievader's command [17:39] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [17:39] Subsystem: Dell OptiPlex 755 [17:39] Kernel driver in use: i915 [17:39] Ok, sorry - not awake yet...... [17:39] Hmm, that should be fine. [17:40] on boot, the compositer settings windows, says it's turned off because of a possible driver bug... [17:41] BluesKaj: thanks for the catch... I have to turn the heat up in my house, my hands are too cold to type ;-) [17:42] first snow of the year here last night [17:42] stuq, we have some here too === ksinny_ is now known as ksinny [18:01] stuq: aren't you an internet worm for Persian nuclear devices? [18:01] *Iranian [18:01] heh, caught ;-) I'm also the first worm to pass the Turing Test.... [18:01] he is, but you made him evil [18:04] aha! [18:04] stuq.doEvilDeeds(); [18:05] there we go [18:05] stuq.doStuff(evil=True) [18:05] combination Stuxnet and Duqu === turgay1 is now known as turgay [18:06] ssshhh - I'm supposed to be a secret... [18:06] oh! that's right. I'll keep a lookout for you === turgay1 is now known as turgay [19:23] so i have another really noob question. i'm trying to download a .nzb file from usenet, and i'm using sabnzbd which apparently runs inside of firefox. anyways when I try and download the nzb it tries to open in firefox, and I click browse but I have no idea where the executable for sannzbd is on my computer (also the search function doesn't seem to work). Any ideas? [19:23] kubuntu 14.04 [19:28] sabnzbd runs it's own web server, try http://localhost:8080 [19:41] hmm [19:43] che757: you could try running a find -> find / -name *nzb === zippy is now known as Guest41011 === kevin is now known as Guest89056 [20:26] how to set the amd radeon as default, on hybrid system? [20:27] the opensource driver [20:27] using the opensorce driver [20:27] the intel video card is the default card now [20:29] lordievader: i reinstall the kubuntu. [20:30] lordievader, lordievader_: I would use the opensorce driver. Can you help me? [20:32] kavaco: the propriety drivers probably have some controll panel to switch [20:32] im not usre im on intel/nvidia [20:33] and we have it in nvidia-settings [20:33] kavaco: You don't have to do anything for that, radeon is installed by default. === soee__ is now known as soee [20:35] how to check this? [20:35] before reinstalling the kubuntu did not run some games that require the Radeon [20:36] but, how to verify? [20:37] verify what ? [20:42] default video card [20:43] i have two: intel hd and amd radeon [20:43] see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9012491/ [20:43] hybrid amd/intel [20:43] on dell inspiron 5447(brazillian version) [20:44] lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9012491/ [20:45] lordievader: it's installed, but is not the default video card [20:45] soee: it's installed, but is not the default video card [20:45] intel is default [20:46] on BIOS there is not a option to select the amd as dafault [20:47] soee: understand?(my english is bad :/ ) [20:49] kavaco: I have never had a system with a hybrid in my hands, so I have no idea. [20:50] lordievader: ok, thank you!! [20:52] hi i have ubuntu 14.10 in my pc. I connected mi pc to my tv through a hdmi cable. The film was active in my pc but not in my tv. Is there some body to help me? thanks [21:03] kavaco: i suggest ti install propriety drivers [21:03] catalyst or what they are called [21:03] than the switch should be easy with their gui [21:04] kavaco: http://planetoss.com/articles/how-to-disable-the-discrete-amd-graphics-card-in-linux/ maybe? [21:04] soee: ok, I'll try again. Previously the driver would not let the catalyst xorg start [21:06] hello guys! have a problem, my Muon pakage manager, the menu item its gonne! [21:06] how can i restore it please? [21:06] thanks bprompt, i to try this, if the amd catalyst dont work [21:07] shallwe: menu bar ? [21:07] soee: yes ! [21:08] i dont know the short cuts :( cant find it for enable [21:09] shallwe: usually it is CTRL + M [21:09] no :( i tryed, ctrl + m works on anothers apps, but in Muon not :( [21:11] shallwe: but to be sue the FIle | Edit etc. menu is gone ? [21:11] soee: yah theres no menu bar. but wait please found some different in google! [21:14] soee: got!!! its a bug, if you disable it, cant enable again haha [21:14] found it "renaming the original (~/.kde/share/config/muon-discoverrc), restarted muon discovery and a new rc was generated plus the menu bar reappeared." [21:14] ty [21:15] :) [21:52] man this plasma 5 is greate! very fast and smoooth [21:52] true :) [21:52] though its missign some features [21:52] soee: yes, but soon [21:52] now at last mail works ! [21:52] and kontakts too [21:54] but ther performance for old pcs like core 2 duo ... is great! running with 2gb ram, full desktop using google chorme, and lot more apps, getting 1.3 of ram ! [21:54] btw the unity... [21:59] :) [21:59] well can't say how it works on older machines [21:59] !info [22:37] Hey guys, anyone knows what happened to ppa neon/kf5 ? I can only add the ppa:neon/ppa. When I add the neon/kf5, it says "Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:neon/kf5'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct." [22:39] I'm using kubuntu trusty [22:47] Daniell_: that has been discontinued [22:48] if you want to test plasma 5 now, you'll need to upgrade to 14.10 and install the next ppa, or try out the plasma 5 iso [22:48] valorie: if you know more can you answer this user: https://plus.google.com/107885265498625428468/posts/PJpRazMb8tF ? [22:48] (best option actually) [22:50] done, thanks soee [22:52] valorie: Thank you for your response :) [22:53] Daniell_: thanks for testing! [22:53] keep the bug reports rolling in [22:53] please [22:54] also, that neon ppa should be killed too [22:54] * valorie reports [23:10] valorie: does the next PPA put stuff in /opt like Neon did, or does it upgrade normal system KDE? [23:11] nothing in /opt anymore [23:11] it upgrades plasma and you'll no longer have plasma stable [23:11] so it is a chance [23:12] boo. that was one of the plus points of Kubuntu for me [23:12] * valorie got bored with the bedrock stability of 14.04 and shot for the moon [23:12] user like Plasma 5 :) [22:52] man this plasma 5 is greate! very fast and smoooth [23:12] *users [23:12] really, 14.10+plasma 5 is great [23:12] true, i can confirm [23:12] not feature complete yet though [23:13] so lots of opportunity to file bugs! [23:13] :-) [23:13] whats more latest Nvidia beta drivers = boost in games etc. [23:13] desktop using, plasma 5 its ok [23:13] some crashs ! buts ok, its when closing apps, not when using apps ! [23:14] shallwe: thats strange, what apps ? [23:14] krita [23:14] vlc, sometimes [23:14] but never crash when im using apps, only when i close them [23:15] in some cases