[00:01] <ogra_> great, rootfses built ... another 30-45min for system-image to import it
[00:14] <cyphermox> cool
[00:29] <imgbot> [00:29] <imgbot> [00:29] <ogra_> voila
[00:29]  * ogra_ is off 
[00:29] <ogra_> happy testing :)
[02:03] <imgbot> [03:29] <imgbot> [03:29] <imgbot> [05:05] <Mirv> mornings
[05:23] <robru> Mirv: gooooood morning!
[05:27] <Mirv> rise & shine
[06:07] <bzoltan> Mirv:  I pinged slangasek yesterday, he ponged back, but he was very busy. Should we find an other guru to meditate on the change?
[06:45] <Mirv> bzoltan: I'm not sure who else would be as good a choice
[06:45] <bzoltan> Mirv:  for me anybody who is licensed to ack such package change is good
[06:48] <Mirv> bzoltan: I'd say it's mostly Steve we can reach https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-foundations-team/+members
[06:52] <Mirv> bzoltan: maybe though some of the core-devs? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members I'm not sure which of them are involved in the cross building efforts that could have a comment on it
[06:55] <bzoltan> Mirv: ehh... you are right, we need slangasek on this
[07:51] <popey> gah, bug 1392587
[08:12] <ToyKeeper> popey: Somehow, the new music app slipped into 160.  :(
[08:12] <ToyKeeper> It really wasn't ready to land yet.
[08:12] <ToyKeeper> Three boots out of four, its primary function (play) failed.
[08:12] <popey> ToyKeeper: been trying to reproduce what you have on that bug and can't yet
[08:13] <ToyKeeper> The ease of triggering it could be related to the amount of music on the SD card.
[08:13] <ToyKeeper> Just a hunch, since I have something like 1.5 GB of music on my card.
[08:14] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/media/phablet/SDCARD$ du -hs Music/
[08:14] <popey> 8.7G	Music/
[08:14] <popey> unlikely
[08:17] <jibel> ToyKeeper, I can partially reproduce the bug, the song plays in music app but the progress bar stays on 0
[08:17] <ToyKeeper> Basically, flash, boot, immediately go to the music scope and try to "play in music app" a song.
[08:20] <jibel> ToyKeeper, if you can reproduce can you attach /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.music_music_<someversion>.log
[08:20] <jibel> ToyKeeper, and dig this directory for any other relevant information
[08:20] <jibel> iahmad, if you can reproduce can you confirm the report
[08:21] <jibel> popey, is reverting the music app in the store an option?
[08:22] <jibel> ToyKeeper, for me the music app plays but is completely frozen
[08:22] <jibel> I cannot tap anything on the UI
[08:23] <ToyKeeper> Interesting.  Doesn't sound like the same symptoms, but it could be related.
[08:23] <ToyKeeper> For me, when it works it works pretty well.  But it doesn't usually work.
[08:23] <ToyKeeper> Any function which leads to the "Now playing" screen just ... does nothing.
[08:24] <iahmad> jibel, here is what I am seeing, go to music scope, tap on a song, tap on Play in music app => musick app launches => tap on play button => nothing happens
[08:24] <jibel> iahmad, add your comments to bug 1392587
[08:27] <popey> jibel: it's an option
[08:27] <popey> would need an image rebuild
[08:27] <jibel> popey, fix or revert, it would need a respin anyway
[08:27] <popey> yes
[08:28] <popey> iahmad: you shouldn't need to tap play
[08:28] <popey> iahmad: if you launch a song from the music scope just leave it, it *should* play
[08:29] <iahmad> popey, that's definitely not happening
[08:29] <popey> it was for me 5 mins ago, multiple times.
[08:29] <popey> trying to reproduce
[08:30] <dbarth_> good morning
[08:30] <dbarth_> trainguards: can i get a vivid silo for line 77
[08:30] <dbarth_> ?
[08:30] <popey> having slight issues given I just flashed my device and now I see this http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-11-14-083040.png
[08:34] <popey> gah, phone is now in a unity restart loop
[08:37]  * popey wipes
[08:41] <ToyKeeper> I added some logs to the bug.
[08:42] <brendand> how the hell could the new music app not be working ?
[08:42] <popey> this is what I don't understand.
[08:42] <popey> I had it working just now repeatedly. couldn't get it to fail.
[08:42] <popey> so I'm wiping my phone to re-test again.
[08:44] <popey> file:///usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.music/2.0.738/meta-database.js:37: Error: no such table: queue Unable to execute statement
[08:44] <popey> suspect
[08:44] <brendand> popey, did it in some way depend on something the old app put in place?
[08:44] <ToyKeeper> TBH, it looks kind of similar to what the gallery app does when it gets invoked via scope the first time instead of normally as an app.
[08:45] <ToyKeeper> After it works once, it seems to work pretty consistently.
[08:46] <popey> this scenario wasn't tested 1) flash phone, 2) update music app (without starting 1.x music app), 3) run tests.
[08:47] <brendand> popey, i was just thinking about this last night
[08:47] <brendand> popey, this is exactly why ad-hoc testing sucks
[08:48] <brendand> ogra_, are you in shock :)
[08:49] <ToyKeeper> Looks like everything is in good hands...  I'm going to go force myself to sleep instead of staying up 'till dawn again.
[08:49] <popey> thanks ToyKeeper !
[08:49] <brendand> ToyKeeper, thanks !
[08:49] <popey> really appreciate you testing it so hard ☻
[08:49] <jibel> Thanks ToyKeeper, sleep well!
[08:50] <brendand> hmm - it just worked for me...
[08:50] <brendand> i have my music on the sd card though...
[08:50]  * brendand tries again
[08:51] <popey> did you fresh flash though?
[08:51] <brendand> popey, yeah
[08:53] <popey> looks like the queue table doesn't exist, looks like a One Line Fix ™ to add a create table line in
[08:54] <Mirv> dbarth: vivid-006
[08:55] <dbarth> Mirv: ty
[08:58] <brendand> popey, worked again. this time with internal music
[08:58] <popey> it works via some code paths
[08:58] <popey> because createQueue() gets called in some places
[08:58] <popey> but not the place we need it
[08:58]  * popey is testing a one line fix
[08:59] <brendand> popey, do you know how that would be triggered?
[08:59] <popey> yes, add songs to the play queue
[08:59] <popey> it creates the queue
[08:59] <popey> but if you launch from the scope, there's a missing check
[08:59] <brendand> popey, ah it's launching from the scope
[08:59] <popey> in clearQueue it is missing a createQueue
[09:00] <popey> IMO
[09:00] <popey> <- not a developer
[09:02] <ogra_> subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['bzr', 'checkout', '--lightweight', u'lp:music-app', '-r', u'738', 'work']' returned non-zero exit status 3
[09:02] <ogra_> hmpf
[09:02] <popey> lp:music-app/remix
[09:03] <ogra_> popey, i'll try to shout that very loud, lets see f the smoke test devices in lexington hear it :P
[09:03] <popey> give it a ring, I hear there's some phones there
[09:04] <ogra_> obviously thats the first thing all devices do after install :/ (and fail, so we dont have a single test)
[09:04] <popey> bah
[09:04] <popey> #blamepopey
[09:04] <ogra_> nah, i told ou to let it in
[09:04] <popey> \o/ one line fix worked
[09:04] <ogra_> blame me
[09:05] <popey> brendand: wanna test?
[09:05] <popey> actually, let me fresh flash again to prove it
[09:05] <brendand> popey, sure
[09:06]  * popey wipes
[09:07] <jibel> popey, what's the fix?
[09:07] <popey> brendand: make phone writable, add new line at 36 in /usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.music/2.0.738/meta-database.js
[09:07] <popey>     db.transaction(
[09:07] <popey>         createQueue();
[09:07] <popey>         function(tx) {
[09:07] <popey> the createQueue(); line
[09:07] <popey> but you need to wipe all the databases to prove it
[09:08] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9002135/
[09:08] <popey> i am doing the nuke-and-pave option
[09:16] <popey> yup, fix works
[09:16]  * popey creates a merge
[10:36] <nik90> ogra_: I noticed the emulator for rtm-stable which is at #6, does not go past the loading scopes screen. It keep looping at that point with the black screen and showing scopes text with a spinner. Was the emulator checked?
[10:37] <nik90> ogra_: I am trying the devel-proposed channel now
[10:49] <brendand> Mirv, afaict rtm landing-003 has more changes than the top blocker - what do you think?
[10:49] <ogra_> img triggered
[10:50] <ogra_> nik90, yes, it was
[10:50] <ogra_> at lleast the x86 one
[10:53] <imgbot> [11:01] <Mirv> hmm, brendand dropped
[11:01] <Mirv> but, yes
[11:29] <bzoltan> slangasek: ping
[11:42] <dbarth> trainguards: ping? can i get a reconfig on silo 006 (vivid) please?
[11:47] <Mirv> dbarth: done
[12:03] <imgbot> [12:04] <imgbot> [12:04] <ogra_> gah
[12:04] <ogra_> that doesnt look like it pulled the new music app in
[12:04] <ogra_> popey, !
[12:07] <popey> oh dear
[12:08] <popey>     1.3.654 is certainly the latest version in the store.
[12:08] <ogra_> oh
[12:08] <ogra_> heh
[12:08] <popey> wassup?
[12:08] <ogra_> well, my script checks if a version is bigger ...
[12:08] <popey> lulz
[12:08] <popey> #blameogra
[12:08] <popey> well its a use case we dont do often
[12:08] <ogra_> ok, all fine ... i see 1.3.654 in the manifest
[12:08] <popey> but need to be able to
[12:09] <ogra_> right
[12:09] <popey> kk
[12:09] <ogra_> i need to special case click packages here
[12:09] <ogra_> debs cant go backwards
[12:09] <davmor2> popey: hmmm I see a potential issue with the store then, I see a fitbit scope update and reminders update I'm assuming that this means that the store only see updates as higher numbers too
[12:10]  * popey wipe/updates phone
[12:10] <davmor2> ogra_: ^
[12:11] <ogra_> davmor2, oh, yeah, might be
[12:12] <davmor2> jibel: ^ I'm flashing and starting the sanity on 161
[12:12] <ogra_> \o/
[12:12]  * ogra_ upgrades
[12:15] <ogra_> my OTA definitely downgraded music
[12:15]  * ogra_ has the ugly pinkish back 
[12:16] <ogra_> wow, after using the new one for a while the old one feels like a usability nughtmare
[12:16] <ogra_> *night
[12:20] <mvo> trainguard - looks like there are plenty of silos available, do you mind if I get one for click?
[12:20] <mvo> trainguard I can do that all myself, just wanted to make sure I don't step on toes
[12:21] <ogra_> mvo, just be aware that rtm is hard frozen
[12:21] <mvo> vivid
[12:22] <mvo> so all good :)
[12:22] <ogra_> yeah, i assumed so, just saying :)
[12:22] <mvo> yeah :)
[12:22]  * ogra_ had enough accidents for one day :)
[12:25] <mvo> ogra_: so 19 silos in use out of 30, am I seeing this correctly?
[12:26] <ogra_> mvo, yeah
[12:26] <ogra_> grab one as you like
[12:49] <Mirv> mvo: you need to use "trainguards" in plural, otherwise at least I don't get a highlight :)
[12:49] <mvo> ups, sorry
[12:50] <mvo> Mirv: but no worries, I assigned myself a silo, seems like plenty are available right now
[12:50] <Mirv> yes, I see, great!
[12:57] <olli> ogra_, how are things
[13:10] <ogra_> olli, final sanity test is running ... the sneaked in music app caused an issue and we rolled it back
[13:10] <ogra_> olli, i think you can exppect a promotion beofre EOD though
[13:10] <olli> k
[13:10] <olli> ogra_, I thought we said that if we hit issues, we'd abort the promotion
[13:11]  * olli reads jfunk's doc again
[13:11] <ogra_> well, we're back to the state of 159 plus the mtp fix ... QA agereed to sign this off if davmor2's sanity test passes now
[13:11] <ogra_> *agreed
[13:12] <ogra_> we had meetings about this, no worries :)
[13:28] <olli> ogra_, this is more about "does it make sense to continue or can we do something else in the meantime" ... that was the intention of jfunk's mail
[13:28] <olli> but I guess it is what it is now, not complaining about getting an image promoted
[13:29] <kenvandine> rvr, i don't see any new strings in that system-settings diff
[13:33] <ogra_> olli, QA moved on ... there is only one person doing the final sanity testing now
[13:38] <rvr> kenvandine: I was trying to confirm with brendand's silo diff tool
[13:39] <rvr> kenvandine: SettingsItemTitle { text: i18n.tr ("Time zone:") } ... text: i18n.tr ("Set the time and date:") ... but that's in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190208776/ubuntu-system-settings_0.3%2B15.04.20141112~rtm-0ubuntu1_0.3%2B15.04.20141112.1~rtm-0ubuntu1.diff.gz and I know it is not reliable.
[13:59] <rvr> kenvandine: I used brendand's tool and I still see those changes to the strings. Some of them are already in Launchpad, but this one is not This string is not currently in Launchpad + text: i18n.tr("Let the phone detect your location:")
[14:01] <kenvandine> rvr, that wasn't new in this diff though
[14:01] <kenvandine> it just moved lines
[14:01] <kenvandine> line 126 and line 136 in the diff on LP
[14:01] <cjwatson> I must see about making it possible to request Launchpad to compute a diff between two arbitrary releases of the same package.  It already has that internally.
[14:01] <kenvandine> cjwatson, that would rock!
[14:02] <cjwatson> As well as https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/259422 of course.
[14:02] <kenvandine> cjwatson, i've done that manually so many times in the past
[14:03] <rvr> kenvandine: Yes, I can see there are lines being just moved, but that one is new
[14:03] <kenvandine> rvr, that isn't new in this diff though
[14:03] <davmor2> jibel, ogra_, olli: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ar4x4tOf_c14QKCyKn3r4YQnJ3AZdnEXdjTOAhyXWXU/edit?pli=1#gid=1608647582
[14:04] <kenvandine> rvr, that string just moved
[14:04] <ogra_> oooh the green !
[14:04] <davmor2> ogra_: and don't ask me jibel gets to say the promote words
[14:04] <ogra_> olli, ^^^
[14:04] <rvr> kenvandine: Why it is not in launchpad, then?
[14:04] <kenvandine> rvr, i have no idea
[14:04] <rvr> kenvandine: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-system-settings/es/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Let+the+phone+detect+your+location
[14:04] <olli> ogra_, what are the final build numbers that get promoted
[14:05] <kenvandine> but it was not added in this branch
[14:05] <ogra_> olli, well, jfunk rightly guessed for 161 in the end :)
[14:05] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/titles-uis-tweaks-rtm/+merge/241578
[14:05] <kenvandine> rvr, look at line 136 there
[14:05] <rvr> kenvandine: In the changelog there are two entries, one is yours and the previous one is from Sebastien Bacher
[14:06] <kenvandine> yes, that string was moved in seb128's branch
[14:06] <kenvandine> but not new
[14:06] <olli> ogra_, and for the spanish build
[14:06] <kenvandine> you can see that in the diff on LP
[14:07] <jibel> davmor2, hold on if it's decided to proceed with promotion the regression test plan must be finished first. As per jfunk's email we stopped regression testing and were back to silos.
[14:07] <davmor2> jibel: I did say it would be your call
[14:08] <rvr> kenvandine: Hmmm... I see.
[14:09] <ogra_> jibel, ugh, i thought that was still running and only stopped this morning when we found the music issue
[14:09] <jibel> ogra_, there are a couple of tests not finished
[14:09] <ogra_> ah, can we finish them ?
[14:11] <kenvandine> rvr, oh... you filed bug 1389786 about that already :)
[14:12] <kenvandine> rvr, which just landed in vivid
[14:13] <boiko> Mirv: row 20 of the spreadsheet is marked as landed, but the MRs against telephony-service don't seem to be merged back tro trunk
[14:13] <boiko> Mirv: the MRs are not marked as merged either
[14:13] <ogra_> davmor2, emulator ans mako ?
[14:13] <boiko> Mirv: would you mind helping me figuring out what happened?
[14:14] <rvr> kenvandine: Ok, everything makes sense now
[14:14] <davmor2> ogra_: yeap they need hitting too, I was just happy about the image passing for once :)
[14:14] <kenvandine> rvr, cool
[14:17] <davmor2> ogra_, jibel: mako flashing now
[14:18]  * ogra_ hugs davmor2 
[14:27] <Mirv> boiko: I don't know _what_ has happened, but indeed all the others worked fine but it, and there's no error in the clean log https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-022-3-merge-clean/4/console
[14:33] <Mirv> boiko: merged and synced manually.
[14:38] <davmor2> ogra_: I want a quick confirm that the emulator image is 127 right?
[14:39] <ogra_> one sec
[14:39] <ogra_> davmor2, yes, confirmed
[14:41] <davmor2> ogra_: thanks
[15:10] <boiko> Mirv: thanks
[15:15] <olli> ogra_, ping
[15:20] <ogra_> olli, heyx
[15:22] <brendand> ogra_, does u-d-f automatically use the cached image if there is one?
[15:23] <ogra_> brendand, it should (as i understand, ask sergiusens for details)
[15:23] <bzoltan> slangasek:  do you think you have few minutes for the qtbase change I have proposed?
[15:24] <ogra_> bzoltan, didnt mvo look at that yesterday afternoon ?
[15:24] <bzoltan> ogra_:  Did he?
[15:24]  * ogra_ thought he saw a lot of commenst here yesterday
[15:25] <brendand> Mirv, for rtm/landing-003 i think the diff has some more changes than just the bug mentioned, do you agree?
[15:25]  * ogra_ has a dejavu 
[15:25] <bzoltan> ogra_: I would be happy to see any smart comments or feedback on that chnage
 Mirv, afaict rtm landing-003 has more changes than the top blocker - what do you think?
 hmm, brendand dropped
 but, yes
[15:27] <brendand> ogra_, yeah connection problems today
[15:27] <bzoltan> ogra_: it is a fairly big change in the debian/ space of the qtbase so it will require  a guru ack for sure
[15:27] <ogra_> bzoltan> slangasek: We need your eyes on the new qtbase candidate which brings the multiarch cross supporting qmake
 slangasek: there's a debdiff of Zoltan's work at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190250795/qtbase-opensource-src_5.3.2%2Bdfsg-4ubuntu2_5.3.2%2Bdfsg-4ubuntu3~vivid1~test1.diff.gz (don't mind the changelog stuff, I'd do a proper build after there's agreement on the method)
 Mirv: nice, that looks pretty straightforward
[15:27] <ogra_> bzoltan, not that "lot" i seemed to remember :P
[15:27] <bzoltan> bzoltan:  I was hoping for slangasek's input because we were talking about the problem this changes solves in DC
[15:28] <bzoltan> ogra_: lot .. I mean a new binary package and changes in the rules file plus a new patch file
[15:28] <ogra_> i mean "lot of comments from mvo"
[15:28] <bzoltan> ogra_: :) the change is not that big
[15:29] <bzoltan> ogra_:  ahh... sorry
[15:29] <thostr_> ogra_: do you know by incident where our coverage testing results go to?
[15:30] <ogra_> thostr_, nope, you have to ask QA ... brendand ^^^^^
[15:30] <ogra_> i know where the sanity tests go to ...
[15:30] <thostr_> righ
[15:30] <ogra_> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ar4x4tOf_c14QKCyKn3r4YQnJ3AZdnEXdjTOAhyXWXU/edit?pli=1#gid=1608647582
[15:31] <ogra_> thats the last sanity run
[15:31] <thostr_> it can only find ci.ubuntu.com but there is very little testing visible there
[15:31] <brendand> thostr_, oh the coverage dashboard?
[15:31] <thostr_> brendand: yes
[15:32] <brendand> thostr_, i seem to have lost the link, but alesage would know
[15:34] <brendand> ogra_, 161 isn't built yet?
[15:35] <ogra_> brendand, ??
[15:36] <brendand> ogra_, is it built or am i just not seeing updates?
[15:36] <brendand> ogra_, i may not since i'm on 3g
[15:36] <ogra_> i saw the update and am running it since 2pm
[16:00] <davmor2> ogra_, jibel: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/emulator.png I'd say that is working too :) still running tests on it, it's slow
[16:00] <ogra_> you know that "it is booting to UI" is enough for me :)
[16:09] <alesage> thostr_, refreshing these results, this project is deprecated and we're preparing something for the new uci-engine http://162.213.34.64:8080/gaps/project/
[16:13] <thostr_> alesage: the data there is massively out of date...
[16:13] <thostr_> alesage: don't we have anything more up to date anywhere?
[16:15] <alesage> thostr_, I'm updating as we speak, a few min pls; else not that I'm aware of
[16:16] <thostr_> alesage: thanks
[16:28] <davmor2> ogra_: one bug with the emulator on first run you set a pin, if you shutdown and then restart the emulator the default pin has changed from whatever you set it to, back to 0000
[16:31] <ogra_> davmor2, file it ... not a blocker if we point to it imho
[16:33] <elopio> cihelp: I could use a review here: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-test-cases/dep8-app-startup/+merge/241613
[16:37] <alesage> elopio I'll run that on device as promised
[16:38] <elopio> alesage: cool.
[16:40] <pmcgowan> Mirv, silo 22 says built but its not?
[16:55] <brendand> olli, can https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1389767 land?
[16:55] <brendand> olli, or is it only top blockers right now?
[16:57] <olli> pmcgowan, ^
[16:57] <olli> brendand, I think we are not going to consider this from >161
[16:57] <olli> about to send an update
[16:58] <olli> brendand, via LT mail from Ogra and something from pmcgowan and I
[16:58] <brendand> olli, ok - because it's been thrown in the same silo as a topblocker
[16:58] <olli> hrm
[16:58] <olli> ppl shouldn't be doing that
[16:58] <ogra_> right, i'll do a summary in the LT mail today ... once i can also announce the promotion (or not)
[16:58] <pmcgowan> brendand, ah as it was approved earlier
[16:58] <brendand> olli, yeah i like one bug per silo myself
[16:59] <ogra_> brendand, i'll make that a req. with todays LT mail
[17:00] <ogra_> brendand, currently there are only 6 (?) fixes allowed to land til next promotion
[17:00] <pmcgowan> olli, ogra_ given this is a tested silo as is, we may need an exception so as to not cause churn with changing rules
[17:00] <ogra_> right
[17:29] <davmor2> ogra_: ofcourse I blame rsalveti for the emulator issue
[17:31] <ogra_> davmor2, of course !
[18:40] <ogra_> so lets do a promotion then :)
[18:51] <ogra_> [18:51] <ogra_> (this is krillin 161, mako 133, generic and generic_x86 127)
[18:51] <ogra_> olli, FYI ^^^
[18:53] <pmcgowan> sweet
[18:55] <popey> no notification about it here
[18:55] <ogra_> http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/krillin/
[18:56] <ogra_> well, it is definitely in the channel
[18:56] <ogra_> with the right timestamp
[19:07] <pmcgowan> ogra_, I was expecting some packages to appear in silo 22 but doent seem to be building
[19:20] <pmcgowan> trainguards anyone can tell me about silo 22
[19:20] <pmcgowan> on rtm that is
[19:21] <ogra_> sorry, i ran into some minor desaster
[19:21] <ogra_> pmcgowan, 22 hasnt been tested by the uploader yet
[19:21] <ogra_> packages seem to have built
[19:22] <ogra_> pmcgowan, it also has a ~testX revision, i doubt that is want you want
[19:23] <pmcgowan> ogra_, its the test silo for that blocker
[19:23] <ogra_> (and a note saying:  Ping brendand before manual testing this, as requested by brendand.)
[19:23] <pmcgowan> but there are no debs there today
[19:23] <pmcgowan> I tested it earlier this week
[19:23] <ogra_> it failed to buuld
[19:23] <pmcgowan> and timo updated it with a new fix
[19:23] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-022/+packages
[19:24] <pmcgowan> I'll send them a note asking to get it building
[19:24] <ogra_> fails tests apparently
[19:24] <popey> pmcgowan: so looking at your mail, I guess we're blocked from uploading _any_ core apps at all (including the now fixed music) ?
[19:25] <ogra_> which is pretty bad wrt music at least
[19:25] <pmcgowan> popey, you could appeal to the powers that be for music
[19:25] <pmcgowan> yeah we sure wanted the new app
[19:25] <ogra_> since we would ship something totally unsupported
[19:26] <popey> who are the powers that be?
[19:26] <popey> (serious question)
[19:26] <pmcgowan> mainly joe
[19:26] <ogra_> oh, he decides ?
[19:26] <pmcgowan> popey, I will raise it on mon
[19:26] <ogra_> now that would be good :)
[19:27] <ogra_> (he's a fan of the new one)
[19:27] <pmcgowan> indeed we all are
[19:28] <popey> We can certainly better prepare for the next store upload, with testing evidence, logs if required.
[19:28] <ogra_> fixed lp branch location :)
[19:28] <pmcgowan> yep
[19:29] <pmcgowan> only question is adding to the image
[19:29] <pmcgowan> maybe we can get it for wave 2
[20:52] <bfiller> robru: could you delete rtm silo 12 and recreate a vivid silo instead please?
[21:03] <robru> bfiller: sure one sec
[21:05] <robru> bfiller: ok vivid 15
[21:47] <bfiller> thanks robr
[21:54] <brendand> ogra_, did we end up getting a promotion?
[21:58] <brendand> pmcgowan, olli - if there was a decision on silo 3 i missed it - do we want to land it with the non-top blocker in?
[22:00] <pmcgowan> brendand, we did promote and yes lets land silo3 as it is
[22:05] <brendand> pmcgowan, after i test it of course :)
[22:09] <pmcgowan> brendand, oh that
[22:12] <ogra_> brendand, yep, we did ... just finished the landing mail