[14:04] <jamespage> o/
[14:04] <jamespage> about to start
[14:04] <jamespage> getting coffee and stuff!
[14:05] <zul> have you guys started....never mind
[14:05] <jamespage> should be with you shortly
[14:06] <rbasak> Should be live now
[14:12] <rbasak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Bcache
[14:17] <rbasak> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2014-November/002030.html
[14:19] <rbasak> Any questions from anyone watching? Please do ask, and remember the hangout isn't exclusive to us either.
[14:21] <zul> lxd not lxc ;)
[14:25] <zul> QUESTION: When will rbadak go for core-dev
[14:25] <rbasak> zul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobieBasak/CoreDeveloperApplication
[14:25] <jamespage> he's applying now - his app is up for endorsements
[14:25] <rbasak> Endorsements please!
[14:25] <rbasak> :)
[14:31] <avoine> QUESTION: any plans/thoughts about system image upgrade for servers?
[14:33] <gaughen> smoser, --^
[14:33] <smoser> avoine, yes definitely thought going into that.
[14:33] <avoine> ok
[14:34] <smoser> as on the phone, system image upgrade would mean apt is not available
[14:34] <avoine> only click?
[14:34] <smoser> well, or any other mechanism that does not modify the root filesystem.
[14:35] <avoine> ok
[14:50] <rick_h_> jose: is there a hangout link I can get setup in and try to work out the banner and such?
[14:51] <lazyPower> rick_h_: we create them an add them tot eh session
[14:52] <rick_h_> lazyPower: ok, can somone hook me up with an invite into one then?
[14:52] <rick_h_> when its time and all that
[14:56] <rick_h_> ok, pad is up added a couple of slots for your stuff nate http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-whats-new-and-upcoming-in-the-work-of-juju-ui-engineering
[14:56] <rick_h_> natefinch: that is ^
[15:02] <lazyPower> Greetings everyone
[15:02] <lazyPower> we'll be starting shortly
[15:02] <lazyPower> make sure you refresh teh summit page as we just updated with a hangout link
[15:08] <lazyPower> If you have any questions, make sure to prefix them with QUESTION: and we will try to get them answered
[15:10] <sparkiegeek> demo curse :)
[15:10] <jrwren> its a bit hard to see on youtube video quality
[15:13] <sparkiegeek> QUESTION: Will the next release of jujucharms.com fix the download/deploy stats?
[15:16] <sparkiegeek> thanks rick_h_, sounds good
[15:17] <lazyPower> QUESTION: if we run into bugs/issues with the jujucharms.com site - where do we file bugs on that project?
[15:20]  * sparkiegeek is excited for the next bit
[15:21] <sparkiegeek> no screen share :(
[15:21] <sparkiegeek> no luck here
[15:22] <fortinux> no luck here
[15:24] <shirgall> The way I used to cheat on this is to connect to the hangout with another google account, share a screen, and force hangouts on air to show that connection.
[15:24] <lazyPower> QUESTION: With relation to error states - and this may be out of scope - when a charm is in error is there any plans to make those more intuitive so we know why it failed? such as error: invalid config option
[15:24] <sparkiegeek> I have a screenshot of Juju quickstart integration with MAAS here: http://i.imgur.com/FUudHnK.png?1
[15:24] <lazyPower> jrwren: ^
[15:25] <jrwren> lazyPower: :)
[15:27] <jrwren> I love the don't do the update/upgrade.
[15:28] <frankban> sparkiegeek: really nice screenshot!
[15:29] <jrwren> QUESTION: I have code which relies on bugs in libc in previous version of precise. Is there a way I can ask juju to use a specific version of precise from simple streams, instead of always the latest version?
[15:30] <sparkiegeek> frankban: heh, well really nice code :) o/
[15:31] <frankban> :-)
[15:32] <sparkiegeek> lies damn lies and distro statistics
[15:37] <jrwren> QUESTION: re: backup: does that mean charms will have a backup hook and so backup for mariadb would mean on restore my mariadb would be restored?
[15:37] <mbruzek1> rick_h_ is a java hater.
[15:37] <sparkiegeek> rick_h_ has good taste
[15:37] <rick_h_> :)
[15:38] <jrwren> rick_h_ is right.
[15:40] <jrwren> QUESTION: Multi-environment sounds great. What about single-environment, multi provider so that I can have services across ec2 regions and azure locations?
[15:41] <lazyPower> Good answer nate :)
[15:42]  * jrwren races lazyPower to make a bug
[15:46] <rbasak> QUESTION: when are Juju actions scheduled to land, or have they landed already? Sorry if I missed that already.
[15:47] <rbasak> I have some charm code I'm working on for automatic backup and restore of charm state.
[15:47] <lazyPower> rbasak: They're up in TRUNK presently - aisrael has experience witht his actually - let me link you to his discovery process.
[15:47] <rbasak> (in my spare time, so going is a bit slow)
[15:48] <lazyPower> ah i apologize - this was very osx and brew centric
[15:48] <lazyPower> however - marcoceppi gave a quick rundown of how to compile juju core from source: http://marcoceppi.com/2014/11/compiling-juju-core-from-source/
[15:49] <jrwren> great answers and info. thanks.
[15:50] <rbasak> OK - thanks
[15:52] <jrwren> Thanks for addressing that natefinch.
[15:53] <jrwren> Oh, I think I know how to work around by making my own simplestreams. I was hoping for juju support :)
[15:53] <natefinch> that is the juju support ;)
[15:53] <jrwren> Huge thanks. Great session.
[17:03] <bmullan0> would it make sense to have a "report bug" button on the various screens for juju... so if you encounter something you can report it then & there?
[17:27] <otto___> hello
[17:28] <rbasak> o/
[17:44] <rick_h_> rbasak: nice stuff in that session yesterday
[17:45] <rick_h_> rbasak: added some notes in the sharing of it I saw https://plus.google.com/113775201618255682202/posts/RTRm4hbS2n6
[17:47] <rbasak> rick_h_: thanks
[17:50] <otto___> who should I bug about the error at http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/ ?
[17:50] <rick_h_> otto___: there's a link to file a bug at the bottom of that page?
[17:52] <otto___> rick_h_: yeah, I just though this error is so "big" that an most likely easy to fix that pinging somebody should be enough..
[17:54] <rbasak> otto___: that's probably true but I have no idea who to ping
[17:54] <rick_h_> otto___: looking at the team that the bug goes under it's a single person it looks like https://launchpad.net/~pkg-website-maintainers
[17:54] <rick_h_> otto___: not someone I'm familiar with, I'd go with the bug please
[17:55] <rbasak> otto___: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pkg-website/+bug/1391957 maybe?
[17:55] <udsbotu> Launchpad bug 1391957 in pkg-website "Section "utopic" not found" [Undecided,New]
[17:57] <gaughen> otto___, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeRaj_yQNTEqD-Mfh_NQRz74ACjQcmQIbit8-EhOe55K3UQrw?authuser=0&hl=en
[18:02] <rbasak> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-mysql-56-in-1504-main-making-it-happen
[18:03] <ryeng> otto___: I think Akhil and I are at the London Bridge Hotel.
[18:03] <rbasak> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-mysql-56-in-1504-main-making-it-happen
[18:23] <zul> some of the openstack developers use to be drizzle developers
[18:49] <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357003
[18:49] <udsbotu> Launchpad bug 1357003 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Trusty) ""SET GLOBAL sql_log_bin" causes data loss" [Medium,Triaged]
[18:52] <ryeng> Oh, no! We finished 3 minutes early! :-)
[18:52] <ryeng> rbasak: What's the ppa url?
[18:55] <rbasak> ryeng: sorry, it looks like I never uploaded it to a PPA
[18:56] <rbasak> ryeng: the PPA is https://launchpad.net/~racb/+archive/ubuntu/experimental but I don't see the latest stuff in the changelog there
[18:56] <rbasak> So you'll need to use the patches I posted to pkg-mysql-maint
[18:56] <rbasak> ryeng: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mysql-maint/2014-August/006900.html
[18:58] <otto___> I was planning to do a Utopic security upload (the one done for Trusty does not apply directly) but how do I know which debian.tar.xz file is the one used in Utopic now when packages.ubuntu.com/utopic does not work?
[18:58] <otto___> I'd rather not install utopic just for this case
[18:59] <otto___> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mariadb-5.5/
[19:02] <ryeng> rbasak: OK, I'll dig out the patches
[19:02] <ryeng> thanks!
[19:04] <otto___> ok, I parsed http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz and the answer is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mariadb-5.5/mariadb-5.5_5.5.39-2.debian.tar.xz
[19:13] <rbasak> otto___: I usually go from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mariadb-5.5
[19:13] <rbasak> otto___: as a packager/developer, this page is more useful to me than packages.ubuntu.com that I almost never go to the latter.
[19:14] <rbasak> otto___: it's completely up-to-date too, since the package publication process starts from Launchpad
[19:14] <otto___> rbasak: thanks, I hadn't thought about that page before