[00:28] <skellat> wxl: You need this script to figure out who are members of ~ubuntu-us-or and are also part of ~ubuntumembers -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lococouncil/+junk/ubuntu-membership-checking
[00:28] <wxl> ahhhhh
[00:28] <skellat> wxl: As for being unreached, they simply were non-responsive after 3 attempts to contact them
[00:28] <wxl> skellat: ok i didn't know that existed so i'll put that in the future work to do
[00:35] <skellat> wxl: Knowing you have people in ~ubuntumembers is good.  Ohio had a special case of many people being unreachable which is why the distinction was made when I wrote up our page.  You won't need to do that from Oregon generally.
[00:36] <belkinsa> Ohio only has four Members.  Yours may have more than us.
[00:36] <wxl> i know we have at least 2 XD
[00:36]  * belkinsa really wants to see how many Members are in all of the LoCo's now
[00:38] <skellat> belkinsa: That's a research study you'd want to propose at school for credit as a "Special Topics" class perhaps
[00:38] <wxl> what do you think skellat belkinsa ? anything missing? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/VerificationApplications/2014#preview
[00:39] <wxl> (there's an ohio team plug in there)
[00:40] <skellat> wxl: Remember, the script helps identify ~ubuntumembers persons in the LoCo
[00:40] <belkinsa> wxl, jvlb isn't a Member
[00:40] <wxl> oh
[00:40] <wxl> he's not?
[00:40] <wxl> well that's freaking weird
[00:40] <belkinsa> https://launchpad.net/~jvlb
[00:40] <wxl> um
[00:40] <wxl> oh
[00:40] <wxl> i see what you mean
[00:40] <wxl> i thought you meant a member of the team
[00:40] <skellat> Yeah, the little medallion is missing
[00:40] <wxl> i thought most active members meant a member of the team
[00:40] <skellat> No
[00:41] <skellat> That's one of the things that tangentially got touched on at "Community Council Feedback" and is being handled slightly off-stage
[00:41] <belkinsa> wxl, for the blog talk about what are the options that you suggested to your LoCo
[00:42] <belkinsa> And link to that flier
[00:42] <belkinsa> Other than that it's good.
[00:42] <skellat> Running the script now
[00:42] <skellat> Launchpad API can be a bit slow
[00:45] <skellat> Known members of ~ubuntumembers located in ~ubuntu-us-or: sgclark, bkerensa, brian-murray, paddyhayes, wxl, tgm4883, cody.smith, kees, gandelman-a, allison, vorlon
[00:45] <skellat> That's a pretty good number actually
[00:45] <belkinsa> 11!  Nice.
[00:46] <wxl> belkinsa: kthx belkinsa 
[00:46] <skellat> Quite a bit of firepower out there with Steve Langasek, Allison Randal, Brian D. Murray, wxl...
[00:46] <belkinsa> :D
[00:46] <wxl> oh thx skellat !!
[00:46] <wxl> yeah i know bdmurray is awesome :)
[00:46] <wxl> i'm somewhat disinclined to include bkerensa in there tho. i mean here's a member of the loco but he's stopped contributing to ubuntu. he's blogged about it and everything
[00:47] <belkinsa> I remember.
[00:47] <skellat> Well, all you're doing is just saying who in the ~ubuntu-us-or set on Launchpad is also in ~ubuntumembers.
[00:48] <wxl> k
[00:48] <skellat> bkerensa can always come back and contribute if he chooses
[00:49] <skellat> belkinsa, when did hammouda-mariam join us in Ohio?
[00:49] <skellat> http://pad.lv/~hammouda-mariam
[00:49] <wxl> i'm going to list the others as "unknown status"
[00:50] <belkinsa> Yes.
[00:50] <belkinsa> But I don't why she did.
[00:50] <belkinsa> When? I will check
[00:50] <skellat> https://launchpad.net/~hammouda-mariam/+participation
[00:50] <belkinsa> joined on 2014-06-06
[00:50] <belkinsa> I appoved it myself.
[00:50] <skellat> Just did, it was in June
[00:51] <skellat> Mariam also has status in ~ubuntumembers
[00:51] <belkinsa> But she isn't a Ohioan
[00:51] <belkinsa> She is a Tunisian
[00:51] <belkinsa> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tn
[00:51] <skellat> Is she studying here?
[00:51] <wxl> close enough
[00:52] <skellat> wxl: One of the funny things is trying to ensure you know the folks who are part of your community
[00:52] <belkinsa> Dunno, I feel like it's a random join and no hello in the ML
[00:52] <belkinsa> Like everyone else in the team
[00:52] <wxl> skellat: that's understandable. i don't know everyone in the team yet but i can see the value in reaching out to them
[00:52] <skellat> Yeah
[00:52] <wxl> so i need to include that
[00:52] <wxl> in the roadmap
[00:52]  * belkinsa really wants to kick out everyone is inactive
[00:53] <wxl> oh derp i did!
[00:53] <wxl> kind of
[00:53] <skellat> belkinsa: And we'll wind up with you, me, James, and Unit
[00:53] <belkinsa> Good point
[00:53] <belkinsa> Roll call on the ML to see if there is other ones?
[00:54]  * skellat is looking at having to go all "killall firefox" yet again
[00:55] <belkinsa> Firefox not working for you?
[00:55] <skellat> Actually, Ohio is one of the few teams to not have a lists.ubuntu.com mailing list and use its LP mailing list instead
[00:55] <skellat> So we can see how many members are even subscribed there
[00:55] <belkinsa> skellat, yes, but that won't say who is active.
[00:55] <wxl> you can't see that with the regular ubuntu lists?
[00:56] <belkinsa> Only admins can
[00:56] <wxl> well that's fine
[00:56] <skellat> And you can't easily correlate it with membership of ~ubuntu-us-or
[00:56] <wxl> ahhhh
[00:56] <wxl> well 27 people is not so much that it's a problem
[00:57] <skellat> Those are the trade-offs
[00:57] <skellat> You have to be an explicit member of the LoCo group on LP to be on the mailing list
[00:57] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/VerificationApplications/2014#preview
[00:57] <skellat> You don't have to be when it is on lists.ubuntu.com
[00:57] <belkinsa> We have 52 subscribed, but that means nothing.
[00:57] <wxl> i found it interesting that you have indirect members
[00:57] <wxl> how is that?
[00:57] <skellat> wxl: At the time there was a nested team that had members
[00:58] <skellat> That nested team was separated out later
[00:58] <belkinsa> The North East one, right, skellat?
[00:58] <wxl> oh
[00:58] <skellat> belkinsa, yep
[00:58] <wxl> i like that idea
[00:58] <wxl> but
[00:58] <belkinsa> The page is good, wxl
[00:59] <wxl> ok i'm sending it out
[01:00] <wxl> link me to the loco agenda again please/
[01:00] <skellat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[01:00] <wxl> kthx
[01:00]  * belkinsa really wants to do the role call
[01:00] <belkinsa> roll call*
[01:01] <skellat> belkinsa: Talk to James and Unit about it first, work out a consensus, and then the four of us can talk about it together
[01:01] <belkinsa> But it really doesn't matter on how many we have, it only matters on who is active
[01:01] <wxl> should i call this re-verification or not since we've already lapsed?
[01:02] <wxl> well i'll call it reverification
[01:03] <belkinsa> skellat, I think I need to think about it first.  It's one of those, "be real Svetlana" things again.
[01:03] <wxl> oh i guess i should rename the app then
[01:04] <belkinsa> You can a copy of that page and keep the old one
[01:04] <wxl> i can just rename too
[01:04] <skellat> belkinsa: No, some things work-related are happening to where the three of you do need to practice working together again
[01:04] <belkinsa> But I think it deletes the old one
[01:05] <belkinsa> skellat, true, true, but it's the whole fact that as a LoCo we are dead and until we get people active again, I think it's pointless to work together.
[01:06] <skellat> belkinsa: If I disappear to any of the following states depending upon which Human Capital Office makes an offer first, the three of you will be taking over: California, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Pennsylvania
[01:07] <belkinsa> You better be kidding here.
[01:07] <belkinsa> Those states and ours?!
[01:07] <skellat> No, as in I have 6 possible transfers out of my employing agency to other agencies
[01:07] <skellat> One stays within Ohio
[01:08] <skellat> The other five mean I would have to hurry up and move
[01:08] <belkinsa> Oh.
[01:08] <belkinsa> I see.
[01:09] <skellat> The one in Ohio would mean moving 6 floors up in http://www.gsa.gov/ajcfb to work for another agency
[01:10] <belkinsa> Urg, I don't know!  The state of the LoCo community in the States is what is worrying me and I think that's why I can't think of anything that will help us
[01:10] <belkinsa> Sorry for that out brust
[01:10] <wxl> ok thank you SO MUCH for all the help belkinsa skellat 
[01:10] <skellat> belkinsa: You're saying what needs to be said
[01:10] <wxl> you guys are both super awesome and you deserve an Ubuntu Member Badge
[01:11] <belkinsa> The Geek Badge?
[01:11] <wxl> heheheh
[01:11]  * belkinsa hugs wxl and skellat
[01:11] <wxl> well whatever it is
[01:11] <skellat> Challenge Coin with a "circle of friends" on one side and something else on the other side would work too
[01:11] <wxl> that's what i meant
[01:12] <belkinsa> +1
[01:12] <wxl> i forgot what you called it
[01:12] <belkinsa> skellat, I know, but it's just I think I want to get some of this ideas into place mainly the United LoCo of USA instead of the states as the LoCos.
[01:13] <belkinsa> Still that is a different topic for another day.
[01:13] <belkinsa> And the LC will just hate me for it.
[01:13] <skellat> No, we won't
[01:13] <skellat> Give us a working plan that may work and we may run with it
[01:14] <belkinsa> Right. A working plan.
[01:14] <belkinsa> Maybe it could be a sprint within the cyle to create one.
[01:16] <jose> a challenge coin?
[01:16] <jose> I want a challenge coin.
[01:16] <wxl> hahahah
[01:16] <wxl> man everyone's all crazy about the challenge coin
[01:16]  * wxl likes nerd merit badges better :)
[01:17] <belkinsa> because it's better than shuttleworth's siggy on a paper!
[01:17] <skellat> jose: If you had attended UOS you would've heard my plans about Challenge Coins for an event we may sponsor as LoCo Council
[01:17] <wxl> HAHAHAH
[01:17] <jose> skellat: well, I didn't 
[01:17] <wxl> ouch
[01:17] <jose> I was at school
[01:17] <skellat> jose: I know
[01:17] <jose> :)
[01:17] <skellat> jose: Will you be able to attend Tuesday's meeting?  I will report then on my UOS machinations.
[01:17] <jose> today my teacher almost yelled at me for looking at summit while in class
[01:18] <jose> skellat: I'll be on my way to classs at that time
[01:18] <wxl> sheesh are you grade school? :)
[01:18] <jose> wxl: nope, university. this is my second term (first year), 10 terms total
[01:18] <belkinsa> One of my profs kicked me out for using my cell phone once
[01:18] <jose> and I'm already hating it
[01:18] <wxl> jose: i've never had a university instructor yell at me for doing anything
[01:18] <wxl> basically the attitude was very embracing if you wanted to learn and if you didn't, oh well
[01:19] <jose> well, my teacher was nice enough to just look at me and tell me 'turn. off. your. phone.' with his eyes
[01:19] <wxl> of course i used to take my discrete math notes in TeX XD
[01:19]  * belkinsa really thinks going to school won't help her...
[01:19] <wxl> belkinsa: you could try a psychologist
[01:19] <wxl> j/k XD
[01:19] <belkinsa> ;|
[01:19]  * wxl hugs belkinsa 
[01:19]  * belkinsa hugs back
[01:20] <wxl> as i'm sure you could tell from the uos session, i'm as much a joker in real life as i am on irc ;)
[01:20] <belkinsa> I really think I would be better of the skills that I gained from the uBuntu COmmunity
[01:20] <belkinsa> wxl, :D
[01:21] <wxl> well ubuntu contributions require involvement and application of skills
[01:22] <belkinsa> I feel like i learned more than brought in, if that makes sense
[01:22] <wxl> i think i've learned quite a bit
[01:22] <wxl> like, um, packaging XD
[01:22] <belkinsa> Community building for me
[01:22] <belkinsa> Python coding soon.
[01:23] <wxl> eugene is a very community-oriented community 
[01:23] <belkinsa> LoCo portal and Harvest work will be the test of my skills learned from the python Coursera course
[01:23] <wxl> that being said, i feel like i already had a bit of a handle on community building
[01:23] <wxl> but i learned a lot
[01:23] <wxl> wow you're going to do harvest work
[01:23] <wxl> cool!
[01:23] <wxl> gimme a ping if you need code review
[01:24]  * belkinsa wonders if Cincinnasty has one like that for Linux folks...
[01:24] <belkinsa> wxl, sure
[01:24] <belkinsa> wxl, more so of getting going for everyone to use
[01:24] <wxl> yeah
[01:25] <belkinsa> wxl, http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ProjectHarvest
[01:25] <wxl> community is not something you make. it's something you grow and tend to
[01:25] <belkinsa> We are planning to a bug testing sprint next year
[01:25] <wxl> the whole "build it and they will come" thing is B.S.
[01:25] <belkinsa> wxl, indeed.
[01:25] <wxl> oh i didn't know harvest was abandoned
[01:25] <belkinsa> It was someones pet project
[01:26] <wxl> oh i wanna help
[01:26]  * wxl is not a womens
[01:26] <belkinsa> Doesn't matter, if you support us it counts
[01:26]  * wxl has worn skirts, though
[01:26] <wxl> :)
[01:26] <belkinsa> We do have a guy that helps us
[01:26] <wxl> well direct me in whatever way you feel appropriate
[01:26] <belkinsa> Well two guys
[01:26] <belkinsa> Sure.
[01:27] <belkinsa> Join the ubuntu women mailing list to stay in the loop of things
[01:29] <wxl> k i'll try to remember to do that
[01:29] <wxl> i'm about ready to head out here
[01:29] <wxl> thanks again folks
[01:29] <belkinsa> Not a porblem
[09:35] <ipmurali> hello team
[09:38] <ipmurali> i need help to contact uae-locoteam
[13:20] <belkinsa> ipmurali, you can ask in the LoCo Contact list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts and/or at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ae/  Your best bet is the LoCo Contact list as there is no information about a mailing list of the LoCo
[13:21] <belkinsa> Please note, ipmurali, that their IRC channel doesn't exist anymore
[13:22] <belkinsa> And I don't know if they are have a LaunchPad team
[13:22] <belkinsa> It seems that they do and here is how to contact them: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ae/+contactuser/