=== markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === exixt_ is now known as exixt === exixt is now known as exixt_ [01:33] hello, i'm trying to get this minecraft launch script to work but i see can not make directory /var/run/screen while the server is booting. how can i fix this? the script is first starting a screen as a certain user and then launching minecraft as a certain user but i guess that user doesn't ahve permission to create a screen session? [01:34] I think your script is for a different OS/distro? === exixt_ is now known as exixt [01:36] mardraum, what do you mean? it's a init script. [01:36] ubuntuaddicted: the "script" you've specified is not known to us, and likely is for a different OS / distro... is the code publicly online somewhere? [01:38] this is the one you should be using, if you aren't already: https://github.com/sandain/MinecraftServerControlScript [01:38] that aside, does screen work normally when you attempt to use it? [01:38] teward, one moment, getting it uploaded to pastebin [01:39] yes, I can issue sudo service minecraft start and the service starts up just fine [01:40] that's not what I'm asking; can you run 'screen'? [01:40] it creates a screen session using user minecraft and it then launches minecraft from that screen session [01:40] qman, no, user minecraft can't run screen. [01:41] ubuntuaddicted: what's the error message? [01:41] qman, it returns Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/4' - please check [01:41] -_- [01:41] i'm guessing because user minecraft can't write to the /dev/pts folder? [01:42] somebody else owns pts/4 [01:42] no, you can't use screen after switching users [01:42] what qman said [01:42] you have to log in as a user, then run screen [01:44] the exception being root since root has all the permission needed [01:46] hmmm, here's the script i'm attempting to use: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9016691/ [01:47] qman, how would a script like this work then? [01:48] ubuntuaddicted: to be clear, this limitation only applies to the client session portion [01:48] ubuntuaddicted: you can launch a detached screen after switching users [01:48] you just can't attach to one [01:49] qman, not sure i follow but that's not important. :) so is this minecraft script ok to use? do i just need to add the minecraft user to the group root so he has write permissions on /dev/pts? [01:49] NEVER add a non-root user to the root group [01:49] no, absolutely do not do that [01:49] NEVER NEVER NEVER IN A BILLION YEARS [01:50] that opens you up to hell [01:51] what I need you to check is whether or not you can run screen properly, so log into your server as any user and run 'screen', without switching users via su or sudo [01:51] it's not important who, all users that can log in should be able to do it [01:52] qman, i can run screen as my normal user yes. [01:52] ok [01:52] so the most likely cause of your error is that your init script is running before /var/run is available [01:52] qman, it's only after I switch to the minecraft user and try to run screen that it gives that error from above [01:54] qman, i'm not sure how to fix that [01:55] Sounds like a frame issue [01:55] the 'right' way is to adjust the start event settings to something that happens later or the specific event needed [01:55] the hacky way is to make it sleep before starting [01:56] I dislike that word, "hacky" [01:57] another solution would be to have the init script wait until /var/run is available in the start process [01:57] You mean modification to the code [01:57] no, fixing the code :) [01:57] no, I mean hacky [01:57] as in would work, but not well thought out or robust [01:57] We don't refer to fixing code as hacking qman in here. [01:57] I'm not [01:58] you clearly misunderstand [01:58] hacky? [01:58] * LinStatSDR scratches head [01:58] it's interesting that the script needs adjusting. i believe others use it with ubuntu so not sure why it doesn't work for me [01:58] to put it another way, it's a dirty hack [01:59] jury-rigged, etc [01:59] That's better. [01:59] no, they're equally accurate [01:59] I understand you're simply trying to fix the code you're having a problem with. [01:59] qman, guidelines thats why [01:59] Should poke at them [02:00] I could not care less; my statement was accurate and has nothing at all to do with "hacking" [02:00] It's the wording. [02:00] what is wrong with the wording? [02:00] nothing [02:00] there is nothing wrong with hacking [02:00] it's perfectly legal === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away [02:01] * LinStatSDR pokes his own eye [02:01] ouch brbn [02:01] or are you confusing hacking with cracking? [02:01] Neither. [02:02] Hacking is by nature malicious, where as penetration testing is not. [02:02] ubuntuaddicted: regardless of that, the script may work in some cases and not others due to a race condition; upstart is not linear and therefore sometimes things happen in a different order depending on your system and tons of other situational things [02:02] Same thing with that. [02:02] I agree qman [02:02] hacking is not malicious [02:02] hacking isn ot malicious [02:02] It's called penetration testing if it isn't [02:02] no [02:03] you can hack on your car, projects [02:03] ubuntuaddicted: all that means is, the script's start requirements are not completely accurate to what the script actually needs in order to function [02:03] nothign to do with computers [02:03] anyway [02:03] ubuntuaddicted: the fix is adjusting that properly, I'm not sure what specific upstart event is going to work best here [02:03] qman, ok, what's the easiast solution? lol [02:04] and do tell me that hackathons are penetration tests, and are malicious [02:05] That's under different conditions [02:06] heh? no it's not [02:06] ubuntuaddicted: I'm going to suggest adding $network to Required-Start and Required-Stop, and removing the Should-Start and Should-Stop lines, like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9016881/ [02:06] isn't there an off topic channel? :) [02:06] can we change subjects [02:06] I'm in that channel... [02:06] already [02:07] ubuntuaddicted: $network is one of the slower to start events in most cases so it may fix it, if not, you'll have to find another event to base your start condition upon [02:08] does this support java, could spin up a socket json rq [02:09] may be quicker if it's sluggish starting [02:09] qman, ok, i made those adjustments and will restart the server. hopefully minecraft starts this time [02:10] I hope so :D [02:12] qman, ok, i briefly saw soemthing about permission denied [02:12] ubuntuaddicted: less /var/log/syslog [02:13] the screen session isn't there and minecraft isn't running [02:13] ubuntuaddicted: then press shift+G to go to the end, and scroll up until you see it [02:16] qman, hmmm, looking at syslog i only see this: dbus[1084]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.login1' failed: Cannot launch daemon, file not found or permissions invalid [02:16] ok, that shouldn't have anything to do with this [02:16] where else would it get logged to? in dmesg? [02:17] ubuntuaddicted: within less, type /minecraft [02:17] see if it finds anything [02:17] the forward slash is the search command [02:17] nothing [02:18] when you installed this, did you update-rc.d? [02:18] qman, yes [02:20] sudo update-rc.d minecraft defaults; sudo update-rc.d minecraft enable [02:20] if you did, it should have put something into syslog [02:21] qman, ok defaults said it already existed but when I ran enable it returned a bunch of stuff. i just restarted again. we'll see [02:21] ok [02:22] cannot make directory /var/run/screen permission denied [02:25] qman, is this solution acceptable? https://github.com/superjamie/minecraft-init-script/issues/26 [02:25] ubuntuaddicted: I found bug 574773 [02:25] Launchpad bug 574773 in screen "Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied (convert init to upstart)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574773 [02:27] qman, looks like we both found similar solutions/bugs [02:28] try this modification: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017190/ note line 8 [02:28] qman, so the one link at github suggests one thing while the bug you linked to i am not sure what to do to get my script to work. can you help me understand [02:28] qman, ok, thank you. will incorporate and try [02:29] qman, wait, doesn't it say something about BEFORE the cd \"$MCPATH\ [02:29] ubuntuaddicted: before or after should not matter in this case [02:29] qman, looks like you added something to the script after that line instead of before it [02:29] qman, oh ok [02:29] ubuntuaddicted: the key here is that before it tries to run screen, it runs the screen-cleanup [02:30] qman, so line 8 is the only addition? [02:30] yes [02:38] qman, THANK YOU! that did it [02:39] qman, i can't believe it's been a bug since back in 2010 [02:40] glad it worked [02:40] qman, onto the next issue. :) [02:40] race conditions like this are the biggest problem with modern init systems [02:41] qman, i have a custom compiled nginx server installed and the init script for that isn't working. so my ubuntu doesn't think it's installed since i compiled and installed it myself [02:42] stick to distribution packages whenever possible [02:42] qman, the reason i compiled it myself is because it needed to be compiled with the rtmp module. so how to get it to auto-run when the server starts? [02:45] isnt it easier to apt-get source and then repackage? just asking, i just screen -r [02:46] here's the init script http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017449/ [02:46] nunizacu, sorry, are you talking to me? [02:47] i just trying to get what what are you talking bout [02:47] dont take it offensife [02:48] i didnt sleep for 24h, im talking 7'th antibiotics in 2 months and barely think [02:49] and yet for last 24h i'm fighting to fully ipv6ize openstack [02:49] nunizacu, we were trying to get a script to start that was launching screen but it couldn't due to a bug in screen cleanup or something like that BUT qman fixed my script for me [02:49] brb [02:50] well, to get to the point i would need more data, and thou im couirours im happy you did it [02:51] btw. you guys use ubuntu all the time, im forced becouse of raid+lvm [02:51] is there a way to recompile whole packages with own flags? [02:52] i need it for quite big project [02:52] and i'm sick of kpartx on pdc to get unknown partitions and integrate it into ininitrd [02:53] enough i made openstack gentoo and bsd 9 and 10 cloud img [02:53] just brb ok [02:53] oookay [02:54] i need to change host [02:54] so looking at the nginx script, i don't see where the definition of the command's location is? [02:55] man - [02:55] oh read that wrong [02:55] my fault wow [02:55] Forgive me ubuntuaddicted [03:03] how do i get nginx to launch when the server starts IF i had to compile and install nginx myself? the guide I followed installed it to /usr/local/bin/nginx [03:10] ubuntuaddicted: using some third-party plugins not included in nginx-extras or something? [03:11] teward, i believe so correct. i don't think the nginx-extras has the rtmp module does it? [03:12] right. [03:12] just checking :) [03:27] man, changeing revs takes a while [03:28] and add sasl auth [03:28] i tought about ssl cert + rsa but i have 8192 rsa [03:29] teward, does it include rtmp module or no? [03:29] ubuntuaddicted: what troubles you? [03:29] ubuntuaddicted: i did many wierd hacks on ubuntu [03:29] ubuntuaddicted: https://packages.debian.org/sid/nginx-extras [03:30] cryptodan, nope, rtmp is not there [03:31] w8 few minutes ill cook something for you [03:34] if anyone can help me get the nginx init script to start my nginx install properly i would appreciate it. here's the init script http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017449/ [03:35] you want script, module or whole package ? [03:35] https://github.com/arut/nginx-rtmp-module/wiki/Installing-on-Ubuntu-using-PPAs [03:36] thats what im doing [03:36] give a link when compiles [03:37] I found this one https://launchpad.net/~mcfletch/+archive/ubuntu/nginx-rtmp [03:38] cryptodan, that's only available for 12.04. [03:39] cryptodan, thank you for trying though. i just want to know how to edit the init script so it looks in /usr/local/bin/nginx instead of the normal nginx location [03:39] you want all modules or only thios? [03:39] paste the script while i bake your new nginx [03:40] and tell me what modules you want, all, rwhatever or everything [03:40] nunizacu, i already have nginx compiled and installed, thanks though [03:40] i've linked the init script several times [03:41] but not with everyting [03:41] and i have to recompile so you have what you want [03:41] and i was away when you posted your iniit [03:42] but hey, if you dont want help i got enoguth to do [03:42] even being kind is wierd on irc [03:44] id try the module from 12.04 but thats just me [03:49] nunizacu, i don't want you to compile me nginx, i already haev it installed [03:50] nunizacu, thanks anyway [03:52] whatever i just finishing it with every module + one you wanted [03:54] nginx in apt-get doesnt have every module enabled [03:54] nunizacu, exactly why i'm not using that nginx [03:55] that's why i was asking what modules except that missing you need [03:55] you cant add that module without recomompile [03:57] i dont understand you, you want some module, someone is making it for you then you dont need it, just wasting time [03:57] but as i started i'll fininish [03:58] omg, i didnt slept for 30 hours [03:59] and if you have problem with init screen paste it or do it yourself, i wont ask you for helping you [04:04] http://[2001:5c0:1508:c800::1]nginx_1.4.6-1ubuntu3.1_all.deb [04:06] nunizacu, i didn't say i needed nginx with the rtmp module, you clearly didn't read what I asked for. [04:07] nunizacu, the only person wasting their time is you because you failed to read what I wrote several time [04:07] i said i didint slept 30h straight [04:07] and i could get any kind of communication [04:08] man, i kindly asked whats the problem [04:08] now i know why came to irc one every few years [04:09] nunizacu, for the 4th time, i would like nginx to start when the server starts. i have an init script that i linked which is not auto starting when the server starts. how do i get nginx to start when I launch the server [04:09] so just drop it to /etc/init.d ? [04:11] then set what runlevel should it start and stop [04:11] init.d scripts are quite easy, you can just copy any and fit to your needs [04:12] or maybe w8 [04:12] nunizacu, it's already in /etc/init.d/ [04:13] nunizacu, as i've stated already, it's an init script. how do i get it to find my nginx installation which is in /usr/local/bin/nginx [04:13] edit the script? [04:14] replace DAEMON=/usr/sbin/nginx with DAEMON=/usr/local/bin/nginx [04:17] then sudo restart nginx [04:18] should start at bootup [04:26] nunizacu, i don't see that DAEMON line within my script. hmmm [04:31] i just installed nginx on my ubu box and i had it in my script [04:31] maybe paste me that script, i will change it so it works and paste it back [04:34] nunizacu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017449/ [04:36] nunizacu, i guess i'm not sure why it's not starting by default. i used update-rc.d defaults OHHHHH but maybe I didn't enable it [04:38] update-rc.d requires 2 things the service name and the action you want [04:38] nunizacu, and I jsut realized that sudo service nginx stop says it's already stopped BUT it's still running. hmmmm. it's like the nginx scripts I have in /etc/init.d/ aren't linked to the nginx i have installed at /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/nginx/ [04:39] replace DAEMON="${DAEMON##* }" with DAEMON=/usr/local/bin/nginx [04:39] line 88 [04:40] nunizacu, will that fix it also for stopping the service? [04:41] yes [04:43] but messing with update-rc.d wasnt brightest idea [04:45] for init.d user /etc/init.d/ngnix stop [04:45] or sudo stop ngnix [04:45] ubuntuaddicted: whats the result of ps auxww | grep ngnix [04:46] pgrep ngnix is faster [04:49] first pgrep ngnix, killall -9 every number , then start, then stop, then pgrep again [04:50] you will see if stop is working [04:50] it should [04:50] maybe you just started more than one instance [04:56] nunizacu, ok, sudo service nginx start seems to work. it starts up BUT sudo service nginx stop does not stop it. [04:57] nunizacu, it returns * nginx already stopped BUT ps aux | grep nginx still shows it running. So the init script I linked which we edited is still not working correctly apparently [04:57] ubuntuaddicted: whats the path? [04:58] cryptodan, path to what? if i type in which nginx it returns /usr/local/bin/nginx [04:58] cryptodan, i need reboot the system i'm on. i'll be right back [04:58] whats the path via ps command [04:59] cryptodan, same thing [04:59] it may not stop i said try sudo /etc/init.d/ngnix stop [04:59] cryptodan, ps shows nginx: master process /usr/local/bin/nginx [05:00] is that the correct spelling? [05:00] cryptodan, that's by user root and there's another process running as user nobody which is just nginx: worker process [05:00] it would be better to rewrite it to start-stop-daemon [05:01] nunizacu, the script i linked is suppose to do that. ;) [05:01] i'll be right back [05:02] why i'm so unlucky today [05:02] guy with nick ubu the tech guru who dont know bash [05:04] Hello, I'm setting up RAID MDADM for the 1st time. I believe I need to add Terminal commands, so should I install a Linux OS, as my blank HDDs are not betting yet. Just the BIOS. [05:05] run ubuntu install and do it during install [05:05] nunizacu, cryptodan i'm back [05:05] 14.04 even recognizes fakeraid [05:07] linuxmint: are you running linuxmint? [05:07] cryptodan, I haven't installed an OS yet. I'm going to run Proxmox, so I thought I'd try the best RAID, RAID10? [05:08] promox is fakeraid [05:08] configure in bios and install on it anything [05:09] I prefer non-software raid but. [05:09] like 14.04 if you dont want to mess with kpartx [05:09] dunno if mint also has it already [05:10] before that i had to manualy do scripts to recognize fakeraid and lvm on it [05:10] nunizacu, I think the MOBO BIOS has a RAID option, so I'll try that then. [05:11] yeah, bad script could hose the system [05:11] well, its not that bad [05:11] you can always boot from recovery cd and fix it [05:12] most of the time [05:12] if it is proxmox bios almost for sure has raid option [05:12] but how you set it up is mobo dependend [05:13] i have mobo where it takes 20 minutes to open fakeraid menu [05:15] can someone help me get this script working with nginx that's installed within /usr/local/bin/nginx please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017449/ [05:15] you messed up update-rc.d [05:15] it may not start automagicly [05:16] tried sudo start ngnix ? [05:16] look at the spelling [05:16] nunizacu, not sure what you mean by messed update-rc.d. all I did was sudo update-rc.d nginx defaults and sudo update-rc.d nginx enable [05:16] nginx [05:17] i have 11 terminals open and more than 30 hours on foot, i can mess words [05:17] cryptodan, that's what I have, earlier when I put ngnix that was the typo. [05:17] no in the script [05:19] cryptodan, here's the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/9019140/ [05:19] NAME="nginx" [05:20] oh it is spelled right [05:20] cryptodan, right [05:21] wait its not unless you misspelled it? [05:21] cryptodan, i dont' follow what you're saying [05:22] nevermind [05:23] maybe change name of original nginx and add your installed patho to PATH [05:24] type should find it [05:26] PATH in script, not systemwide [05:27] nunizacu, i'm sorry, i don't know what any of that means [05:27] where did you get this script in the first place? [05:28] cryptodan, i'm not sure to be honest [05:29] so you openly run a script from which you do not know where you got it from? [05:29] cryptodan, if you have another nginx script that will work with my installed nginx that's in /usr/local/nginx than I would really appreciate that [05:29] ubuntuaddicted: usually when you complie something like that it wouldcome with its own script [05:29] I dont openly go out on the web looking for scripts to run my services if I compiled them [05:30] cryptodan, apparently so. looking at this one looks promising http://wiki.nginx.org/Nginx-init-ubuntu [05:30] ubuntuaddicted: look in the source package from which you compiled it from [05:31] otherwise I would highly recommend that you stop trying to mess around servers and services in general if you do not know what you are doing [05:31] cryptodan, hmm, i followed this guide for compiling nginx here: https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-set-up-your-own-private-rtmp-server-using-nginx.50/ [05:31] cryptodan, i can only learn if i try [05:32] there is no script there [05:32] cryptodan, and i have not really learned init scripts or upstart. i normally just install packages using the default repo's BUT minecraft and nginx aren't in the default repo's (well you know why I had to compile nginx-because i needed the rtmp module) [05:33] cryptodan, i realize that but it appears like it has a $PATH variable in it that I can set [05:36] cryptodan, it appears as though I got my current script from https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts [05:36] this is how you start and stop the script based upon the quide you sent $ sudo /usr/local/nginx/sbin/nginx -s stop $ sudo /usr/local/nginx/sbin/nginx [05:37] cryptodan, i know how to stop and start nginx manually. i am trying to get it to auto-start when the server starts [05:37] put /usr/local/nginx/sbin/nginx in rc.local [05:41] cryptodan, that wouldn't be using upstart then right? [05:41] cryptodan, because that new script I linked to even has the default conf directory correct being NGINX_CONF_FILE="/usr/local/nginx/conf/nginx.conf" [05:41] nope but it would allow you to do what you want [05:45] ubuntuaddicted: here you go http://wiki.nginx.org/Upstart [05:47] cryptodan, but i'm not familar with initctl. with that upstart job would I be able to manage the service with sudo service or no? [05:47] cryptodan, so this script woudln't work? http://wiki.nginx.org/Nginx-init-ubuntu [05:48] ubuntuaddicted: also this http://wiki.nginx.org/Nginx-init-ubuntu [05:49] cryptodan, lol, that's what i linked like 15 minutes ago [05:49] that wasnt your pastebin [05:59] cryptodan, actually this script looks the most promising. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JasonGiedymin/nginx-init-ubuntu/master/nginx [06:00] the one posted from the nginx wiki is the one you should use [06:00] cryptodan, linked from this guide here: https://www.vultr.com/docs/setup-nginx-rtmp-on-ubuntu-14-04 [06:02] cryptodan, do i need to do anything writh update-rc.d? [06:03] update-rc.d nginx enable I believe [06:03] cryptodan, i don't need to remove or disable the current one? [06:04] yes and then renable the other one [06:04] cryptodan, i did sudo update-rc.d nginx disable [06:05] cryptodan, installed the new nginx file. now i just run sudo update-rc.d nginx defaults && sudo update-rc.d nginx enable? [06:05] defaults should be all that is required [06:07] cryptodan, sudo update-rc.d nginx defaults returned System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/nginx already exist [06:08] cryptodan, so i did sudo update-rc.d nginx enable and it removed all them and then re-added them scripts in each of the /etc/rc0.d/K20nginx [06:10] cryptodan, hmmm, so now sudo service nginx start doesn't work. it says nginx: unrecognized service [06:11] cryptodan, ahhhh, it was because i didn't chmod +x the /etc/init.d/nginx file. it's working now. [06:13] reboot and see if it starts [06:14] cryptodan, i would if no one was on the server but there is so i have to wait until they get off. i run a minecraft server. :) [06:14] internet issues [06:15] cryptodan, but sudo service nginx start works. and sudo service nginx stop works. so i believe we got it working. :) I really appreciate your help and patience [06:15] you are welcome, and to learn serving I would highly recommend using a VM till you get the hang of it [06:17] cryptodan, thanks. i just need to do some learning of init i guess or upstart or whatever it's referred as in xubuntu 14.04.1 [06:18] so that way you dont open yourself up for exploit [06:22] cryptodan, i have a hardware firewall protecting me but i see what you're saying [06:22] if it is made by man it can be broken by man [06:23] cryptodan, :) [07:01] So, setting up RAID on new computer and BIOS says RAID can be setup with BIOS if using Windows. I'm using Linux (Proxmox on Centos), so do I need to build a different type of RAID like mdadm? [07:23] ok, i'm back. apparently despite us fixing that minecraft startup script which is supposed to start a screen session that I can attach to, there's no screens running under user minecraft or under my user. can anyone help again? [07:26] ubuntuaddicted: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-on-linux [07:26] www.openas.org - an open-source Anti-Spam appliance - We're still looking for contributers, volunteers and supporters. Check it out! [07:31] cryptodan, thanks but i'm not using those instructions. according to ps aux | grep minecraft both screen and minecraft are running [07:31] cryptodan, http://pastebin.com/yJacZVzY [07:31] screen -R [07:32] cryptodan, that just brings up a new screen session [07:32] screen -r [07:33] actually, it returns this Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/19' - please check. [07:33] when i run screen -R with user minecraft [07:35] if i chown /dev/pts/19 so it's owned by user and group minecraft screen -R results in a new screen session and screen -r results in There is no screen to be resumed [07:37] do it as user who did screen [07:37] not sure if what user juboobbleton did was an acceptable workaround in this post https://github.com/superjamie/minecraft-init-script/issues/26 [07:37] login as user whitch you did screen and then screen -l [07:38] or if you dont like login sudo -u USER screen -l [07:38] nunizacu, if i ssh into the server as user minecraft and try screen -r it says there is no screen to be resumed [07:39] and screen -ls returns this No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-minecraft. [07:39] sudo ls /var/run/screen [07:40] so i don't believe adding /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup start to my minecraft start script was the correct workable solution. [07:40] nunizacu, that returns this S-minecraft S-ubu [07:41] sudo -u minecraft screen -l [07:41] sudo -u ubu screen -l [07:41] if you see some - sudo -u user screen -r [07:42] typing in sudo -u ubu screen -l just takes me into a new screen session as user minecraft. what do i do once i'm in htere? [07:44] nunizacu, i don't believe it's setup correctlly. that script is suppose to start a screen session, run as a daemon as user minecraft and then start the minecraft server. i should be able to reattach to screen which is named surivial-mc and see the minecraft server console but so far i can't find the running screen session [07:47] nunizacu, according to screen -list No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-minecraft. [07:48] so you have no screen running [07:49] but man you do web servver, minecraft server or what? [07:49] ubuntuaddicted: why must you use a script? [07:49] ssh in, run screen, run minecraft server [07:49] nunizacu, apparently not under user minecraft. but what i'm confused about is ps aux | grep minecraft shows SCREEN running http://pastebin.com/yJacZVzY [07:49] Ben64, so that if the power goes out it auto-restarts [07:50] you can do it with start-stop-daemon [07:50] assign pid, loop test [07:50] and restart when needed [07:50] ubuntuaddicted: you're overcomplicating it [07:50] learn something about linux, bash and anything man [07:50] nunizacu, if there's some other way to have it autostart when the server boots up please let me know [07:51] your server shouldn't be dying often enough that you need to do that [07:51] so what sucks right now is i can't safely stop the minecraft server [07:51] man, if it wasnt your nick i would do it long time ago (i can survive overgrovn ego to this extent only) [07:52] my server == 02:51:45 up 78 days, 23:11, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 [07:52] and that reboot was planned [07:52] Ben64, you run a minecraft server? [07:52] i have [07:53] if i can't reattach to the screeen it's running in, what's the safest way to stop it? [07:53] should be able to do that from within the server [07:53] Ben64, i can't get to the server console. [07:54] i mean, in game [07:54] Ben64, someone helped me earlier thinking they fixed it for me but it turns out it didn't fix the problem, it just made it so the minecraft server started when the server booted up BUT i can't get to the screen session to manage the minecraft from it's console [07:55] yeah, stop relying on scripts and stuff [07:56] I would follow this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-on-linux [07:56]