[00:00] <bubbasaures> alesan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[00:00] <bastidrazor> alesan: it works just the same. you'll need to manually add a few things but it isn't going to make a difference
[00:04] <alesan> bubbasaures, bastidrazor oh OK so I can safely work with fstab, no special Ubuntu GUI tool in the way?
[00:04] <gcl5cp> larzo: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[00:06] <bubbasaures> alesan, Sure, just a config ask any needed questions.
[00:06] <alesan> okok I come from Slackware this is easy if it's only about doing stuff on the terminal
[00:07] <bubbasaures> alesan, Yeah you can nano...etc
[00:07] <alesan> well... vi come on... :)
[00:07] <cholby[]> UBUNTU IS FOR NIGGERS!  LOOOOOOOOOOOL!  OPENSUSE IS WAY BETTER GNOME IS GAY!  RETARDED FAGS!
[00:08] <oniongrrrl> hello can someone please help me? I am having problems connecting to my home wifi. It was working perfectly fine just yesterday I came and tried to login today and it will not connect. I can see the wifi, and I can even connect to my phone hotspot but it wont let me connect to my home wifi. Anyone have any idea why this is? I am using the newest version of Xubuntu.
[00:10] <alesan> what are the recommended mount flags for a ext4 formatted partition
[00:10] <alesan> on a spinning disk
[00:10] <alesan> noatime ... ???
[00:14] <oniongrrrl> Is there anyone here?
[00:14] <acer_> yup
[00:14] <acer_> just install xubuntu on my machine
[00:15] <daftykins> oniongrrrl: yes, ask a question if you have one
[00:15] <acer_> looking to install xbmc with to watch portuguese tv and navi x for movies...can any1 point me a video tutorial how to have this set up plz ???
[00:15] <linux> herro
[00:15] <oniongrrrl> daftykins, hello can someone please help me? I am having problems connecting to my home wifi. It was working perfectly fine just yesterday I came and tried to login today and it will not connect. I can see the wifi, and I can even connect to my phone hotspot but it wont let me connect to my home wifi. Anyone have any idea why this is? I am using the newest version of Xubuntu.
[00:16] <daftykins> oniongrrrl: done any updates since yesterday?
[00:16] <Tobias[L]> oniongrrrl: have you updated ubuntu? (as in clicked Update on the notice)
[00:16] <oniongrrrl> yes, actually I did.
[00:16] <boze> is there a way to get flash working on chromium? pepper doesn't work. Flash works on firefox :/
[00:16] <daftykins> oniongrrrl: try booting your last kernel by holding left shift at boot time, going to advanced, then selecting the kernel with the second newest version #
[00:17] <Tobias[L]> oniongrrrl: check which packages updated
[00:17] <Tobias[L]> boze: install google chrome, the plugin got deactivated
[00:17] <boze> Tobias[L]: thanks
[00:17] <oniongrrrl> daftykins: I got the notice to update and I did, I restarted my wifi router today and not its not working at all. I know the router is working because it connectes to my tablet and phone fine and I can see my home connection it just wont connect. I am talking to you now connected through my phone hotspot.
[00:18] <OerHeks> bose pepperflash should work. how did you install? sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree && sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[00:18] <daftykins> oniongrrrl: right, how does this relate to trying an older xubuntu kernel?
[00:18] <daftykins> oniongrrrl: i'll happily explain it another way if you don't follow my suggestion?
[00:19] <boze> OerHeks: I tried that a bunch. It didnt' work
[00:19] <oniongrrrl> daftykins: Im sorry I didn't see your comment about trying the old Kernel.
[00:19] <OerHeks> boze, see also here with same commands https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[00:19] <Tobias[L]> acer_: are you familiar with installing programs? sudo apt-get install xbmc should work well, beyond that point google propably is a better call
[00:19] <OerHeks> boze, and restart chromiun after that
[00:20] <oniongrrrl> daftykins: im using IRC through webchat.freenode.net its not very good lol
[00:20] <oniongrrrl> daftykins:  I will try tha tnow. Thank you! !!
[00:21] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: any thoughts on non-kernel updates that could have kicked said wifi? :) curious for my own education
[00:22] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: well i know that hostapd regularily kicked the hotspot mode for my ubuntu until i ap-mark hold' it, dunno which package may cause this right now
[00:23] <Tobias[L]> boze: OerHeks: they shut down Npapi support in april, since that getting peeper to work is based on luck in chromium. it also has some weird scaling issue for both my laptops so i gave up and use my regular chrome-opera-firefox instead
[00:25] <Tobias[L]> boze: OerHeks: If you download and install the ‘regular’ version of Google Chrome (the one with the rainbow-coloured icon) then you have no cause for concern. Despite the change, YouTube, Vimeo, etc. will all continue to work “out of the box” on Linux as the browser comes with a bundled version of Flash based on a newer, more secure plugin format.
[00:25] <Tobias[L]>  
[00:25] <Tobias[L]> If you opt to use Chromium (the one with the blue icon), available from the Ubuntu Software Centre, then you won’t be able to watch/interact with/view Flash content without first extracting and installing the ‘Pepper’ plugin from Google Chrome. This workaround will apply to all browsers based on Chromium.
[00:25] <boze> Tobias[L]: flash is working in chrome tyvm! Also solves a problem I was having with google hangouts + screenshare. Life is much better now
[00:25] <Pinkamena_D> Hello. I have a small SSD which I would like to place a partition on to replace SWAP on the hard drive
[00:26] <Pinkamena_D> If I remove the local swap partition and place a new swap partition (with gparted), will it be noticed?
[00:26] <Tobias[L]> boze: yep google chrome has a bundled version of it, works OOTB
[00:26] <bastidrazor> Pinkamena_D: if you add it to your fstab
[00:26] <k1l> Pinkamena_D: change the entry in fstab
[00:26] <Tobias[L]> Pinkamena_D: you have to edit fstab
[00:26] <bubbasaures> Pinkamena_D, Just change the UUID in fstab to the new swap.
[00:27] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: did it work?
[00:27] <oniongirl> Hi again
[00:27] <Pinkamena_D> ok, so partition new, change fstab, remove old
[00:27] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  No :(
[00:27] <Pinkamena_D> sounds good
[00:27] <Tobias[L]> Pinkamena_D: no sudo gedit
[00:27] <oniongirl> I loged using the kernel 13. and its still not working
[00:27] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: look for last updated packages
[00:28] <daftykins> oniongirl: that's a shame, i'll pass over to Tobias[L]' idea now
[00:28] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: hate to second guess, but 'sudo' with GUI apps is bad practice, gksu should be used in place
[00:28] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  how can I do that? I had been using the 16.x kernel and it was working I am now logged in using the 13.x kernel
[00:28] <Tobias[L]> Tobias[L]: enter        cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "       into a  terminal
[00:29] <daftykins> oniongirl: can you tell us your wifi hardware?
[00:29] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl:  and paste it on pastebin so the spam wont get filled XD
[00:30] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: sorry, used to arch where only sudo sometimes is set up (yeah i have some glorious cases of removed packages
[00:30] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  daftykins   http://pastebin.com/D0nhtTc7
[00:32] <daftykins> oniongirl: and the wifi device? "lspci" perhaps
[00:33] <oniongirl> daftykins:  http://pastebin.com/jcWERYVh = lspci
[00:33] <daftykins> hmm Ralink RT2760
[00:33] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: this can take a bit, i hope you dont mind ^^
[00:33] <pzkpfw>  Hello all. I dualboot 14.04 with Win7 and last night I had the error of no network connectivity upon resuming after suspend
[00:33] <pzkpfw> except... when I restarted my computer I cannot boot into ubuntu any longer
[00:33] <pzkpfw> it says "kernel panic"
[00:33] <daftykins> oniongirl: did you definitely have to install the 3.16 kernel to get working wireless then?
[00:33] <newb> hi. need to install ati graphics card. I have the needed drivers downloaded and tried to run this command to run the installer: sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[00:33] <oniongirl> daftykins:  Tobias[L]  I just want to thank you guys so much for taking the time to  help. I do appreciate your time.
[00:34] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  not at all. I really appreciate your time!
[00:34] <Jordan_U> newb: Don't install proprietary drivers that way, use the "Additional Drivers" tool that comes with Ubuntu.
[00:34] <newb> additional tools?
[00:35] <oniongirl> daftykins:  wifi is working the same with the 3,16 Kernel as it is with the one im using now.
[00:35] <KKEm> EriC^^ are you online?
[00:35] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: sorry your updated packages are only mono and bamf, nothing stopping connectivity
[00:35] <oniongirl> 3.13
[00:35] <newb> where is this additional drivers?
[00:35] <daftykins> oniongirl: i understand it's not connecting now, but when you first installed (v14.04?) did you have working wireless on 3.13?
[00:36] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  strange. the only thing I did was restart my router.Plugged it back in and no wifi.
[00:36] <daftykins> pzkpfw: try an older kernel
[00:36] <oniongirl> daftykins:  yes. Everything was up-to-date and working perfectly yesterday, and even this afternoon. Went out, came home and no wifi
[00:37] <daftykins> oniongirl: but 3.16 was something that had to be manually added, so i am wondering if you installed that kernel version specifically to get wifi support
[00:37] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: well then the problem propably is with your router, rebooted it already? else this likely wont be a ubuntu problem
[00:38] <Jordan_U> newb: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:38] <newb> 14.04
[00:38] <newb> 14.04 lts
[00:38] <oniongirl> daftykins:  no, I installed it a week or so ago. Just to upgrade no particular reason.
[00:39] <pzkpfw> Kernel panic - not syncing on 14.04 LTS. Problem started after I lost network connectivity upon resuming from suspend. Any ideas?
[00:39] <daftykins> oniongirl: ah i see, it's an odd action to install a kernel not specifically needed for hardware support
[00:39] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  The wifi works great with my phone and tablets no issues. I can see it here in network settings but just not working. It tries to connect but just times out and connects to my phone hotspot
[00:40] <newb> i found the additional drivers app.
[00:40] <daftykins> oniongirl: what do you use to manage the wireless network?
[00:40] <oniongirl> daftykins:  is it? I just saw on webupd8 that the new kernel was out so I decided to update.
[00:40] <newb> how do i add the ati support?
[00:40] <newb> i have a ati radeon hd 4550
[00:41] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl:  can you cat your syslog after connecting two times?               cat /var/log/syslog
[00:41] <Jordan_U> newb: Just search for "Additional Drivers" in the Unity search bar. Do you know what I mean by "the Unity search bar"?
[00:41] <newb> jordan i found it. Im in
[00:41] <daftykins> newb: are you being offered any fglrx choices?
[00:41] <newb> no
[00:41] <daftykins> Jordan_U: i think the AMD 4xxx series are legacy and only work with 12.04 these days, no?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> daftykins: I have no idea.
[00:42] <daftykins> ok i will look that up
[00:43] <daftykins> newb: your card is no longer supported, you cannot install any other driver under anything newer than ubuntu 12.04.2
[00:43] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:   http://pastebin.com/hiLxCMUY = Cat /var/log/syslog
[00:43] <daftykins> newb: you're going to have to get by on the default open source ("radeon") driver
[00:43] <newb> really? that's sad :(
[00:44] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: Jordan_U newb: AMD 4xxx is legacy, the last supported linux is linux mint 13 or Ubuntu 12.04 1st version, only the former still around (i have the same legacy 3xxx atm), else try live without full 3D
[00:44] <blami> is there any way to avoid flicker and screen mess when I change multihead configuration?
[00:45] <newb> are there any other options?
[00:45] <daftykins> newb: yep upgrade card
[00:45] <Tobias[L]> newb: use an even older linux
[00:45] <daftykins> newb: what are you hoping to do though? you probably don't need a different driver at all
[00:45] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: looking into it
[00:45] <ianorlin> you could use integrated as well
[00:45] <newb> i wanted to play doat 2 on this linux machine.
[00:45] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  thank you!!
[00:46] <daftykins> oniongirl: Tobias[L] - i would recommend deleting your wireless network profile from network manager and recreating, if you haven't already (just to be 100% certain)
[00:46] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: have you changed the MAC to 00:00:00?
[00:46] <Tobias[L]> else that is the problem XD
[00:47] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: that's the AP side :)
[00:47] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  no I haven't tried anything. daftykins  I deleted my home wifi, restarted and it found it again but same thing it just dosen't want to connect.
[00:47] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  I mean to say I did not change MAC address
[00:48] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: since when it gives out 00:00 for this ?
[00:48] <KKEm> EriC^^ :)?
[00:48] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: i'd ponder that as being a driver issue
[00:48] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  I never noticed it honestly I wouldn't know how to change it myself.
[00:49] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: line 437 is interesting
[00:50] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: abouya-something your router ssid?
[00:50] <oniongirl> Abuayyoub is my Wifif hotspot the DDW3... is my home wifif
[00:51] <oniongirl> my phone wifi is abuayyoub i meant to say my home wifii SSID is DDW365C7
[00:51] <daftykins> that explains why that one worked :>
[00:52] <oniongirl> daftykins:  I should mention that I just got this internet hooked up yesterday. before that I was just using my hotspot with my phone.
[00:52] <Tobias[L]> so the interesting line is oniongirl: daftykins: "association took too long, failing activation."
[00:53] <KKEm> someone whos famillia with TestDisk?
[00:53] <Tobias[L]> KKEm: i use it seldomly, what you want to do?
[00:53] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  ok, what does that mean?
[00:53] <daftykins> oniongirl: ah-haaaa do you feel like exploring its' web-based administration pages from one of your other devices?
[00:54] <oniongirl> sure.
[00:54] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: oniongirl: this is a 100% not ubuntu related
[00:54] <oniongirl> You want me to login to my router?
[00:54] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: yeah, i still enjoy networking queries though
[00:54] <daftykins> perhaps we should take it to a more relevant channel, depends if you'd like to follow along, Tobias[L] :)
[00:54] <KKEm> i have found the partition i wanna use, but it says "you will have to reboot for the change to take effect" < Tobias[L]
[00:54] <daftykins> oniongirl: yes please and find the wireless security settings page
[00:55] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  oh. Ok, Very strange. Maybe something happened when I rebooted it. Think I should try a reset?
[00:55] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: your router fails to authenticate your device and daftykins yeah why not
[00:55] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: that would be the fastest way
[00:55] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  ok 1 sec. Let me try it on the ipad.
[00:55] <Tobias[L]> KKEm: what partiiton, where, what format?
[00:56] <Tobias[L]> KKEm: and especially: why?
[00:56] <KKEm> have you seen EriC^^?
[00:56] <daftykins> he might be there if you highlight him and wait ;)
[00:57] <Tobias[L]> '/whois eric gives out he is ericp4 atm
[00:58] <KKEm> ericp4 :D ?
[00:58] <Tobias[L]> Ups nah he isnt but hes online XD try /msg eric
[00:58] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  daftykins  pastebin.com/BK7Ukqwx
[00:59] <daftykins> oniongirl: yeah, hopefully you can find a wifi settings page?
[00:59] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: are you using openwrt or an usual cable modem?
[01:00] <oniongirl> just a regular time warner cable box
[01:01] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: maybe they finally try to get you to pay for more than two regular wifi devices XD
[01:01] <daftykins> oniongirl: does your laptop have a wired LAN port you could plug into the router with temporarily in order to upload screenshots of the web admin pages?
[01:01] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: even an ipad should be able to display these and the ipad works
[01:02] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: yes but the upload of screenshots would be the point of contention there i think
[01:02] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: oniongirl: but i agree visual overview sometimes is superior
[01:05] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  everything else seems to connect perectly. :( trying to find default login settings for this router.
[01:05] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: either on the sticker on it or they gave you a  nice and sleek service manual
[01:07] <daftykins> oniongirl: admin : cableroot ?
[01:07] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  I am in. Think I should try resetting to default?
[01:07] <daftykins> oniongirl: nope locate the wifi settings first
[01:07] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: what daftykins said
[01:08] <oniongirl> daftykins:  Tobias[L]  ok im in the wifi settings
[01:08] <daftykins> is it on WPA1 with TKIP?
[01:09] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: nope wpa2
[01:09] <daftykins> AES/TKIP or no mention of either?
[01:09] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: psk
[01:10] <daftykins> that's a different thing :)
[01:10] <daftykins> other things to look for are channel #, which might be on auto
[01:10] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: dunno about that, i just looked int othe config files
[01:10] <daftykins> PSK is just pre-shared-key, i.e. non enterprise password sharing
[01:10] <oniongirl> daftykins: Tobias[L]  www.imgur.com/l3Ysvsn
[01:11] <daftykins> oniongirl: try changing 'Control Channel' to 6
[01:11] <oniongirl> daftykins:  ok
[01:12] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: Access control?
[01:12] <daftykins> oniongirl: obviously after that you'll need to hit 'apply' then i'd reboot it for good measure (via power off and on, if need be)
[01:13] <oniongirl> Ok I will reboot. hope it works.
[01:13] <daftykins> one suspected thought is it could be down to the mixed mode operation right now
[01:13] <daftykins> ('g' and 'n')
[01:14] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: im happy im still on my Linksys wrt54gl, i had no problems ever
[01:14] <daftykins> wow that's a relic!
[01:15] <daftykins> hmm as it was on channel 1 i don't suspect much from my idea
[01:15] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: hey it doesnt support my networks capabilities sadly (1 gbit/s) but hey ~ it works without any burden on TomatoRAF
[01:16] <daftykins> :) i too greatly favour my wired gigabit LAN.
[01:17] <Tobias[L]> University network, i have wired 10 gigabit but i have found no router able to match my current router yet
[01:18] <Tobias[L]> while having 10 gigabit support and a potent NAT switch with wlan ac dualmode
[01:18] <daftykins> hah, yeah can't say i've seen any 10GbE hardware for domestic use
[01:19] <Tobias[L]> well some are out in the wild but i would be happy with 1 gbit XD
[01:21] <Tobias[L]> i  think over getting myself a netgear firewall, it is a feeling of safety, has nat and wifi
[01:22] <Tobias[L]> especially in an university network where every pc and printer shouts out their identity into the network, resulting in 3000 packages/second
[01:22] <BusinessMan> Hi
[01:22] <isene> I have Pointer_Button2 and Pointer_Button3 mapped to two keyboard keys - but now and then they drop out and I have to hit a key bound to Pointer_EnableKeys to reactivate them (I have no numlock on my keyboard so I had to bind Pointer_EnableKeys to another key - the PrintScreen key). The weird thing about this is that I have an identical laptop (yes Identical) that doesn't behave this way. Any ideas?
[01:22] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: didnt work?
[01:22] <oniongirl> Tobias[L]:  Didn't work :(
[01:22] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: i think this marks your turn on the roulette wheel
[01:23] <daftykins> shall we say nuts and reset the router, or poke another variable? :)
[01:23] <oniongirl> daftykins:  I can't think of anything else.
[01:23] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: jay XD onion: screencap access restrictions but i think we move closer and closer to "just reset it, else something bigger is to be done"
[01:23] <oniongirl> I suppose I can just try reseting to default
[01:24] <daftykins> oniongirl: yeah i have more ideas but go for the reset for fun
[01:24] <oniongirl> daftykins:  ok, back in a few :)
[01:24] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: oniongirl: it likely saves us a ton of time
[01:27] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: i saw in the syslog that the AP MAC did eventually change, so it's a tad odd it decided to come up with 00's to start with
[01:27] <daftykins> that model seems a couple of years old at least (wifi card) so i wouldn't be surprised if it's another of the endless tales of Linux and wifi being a pain
[01:27] <daftykins> especially as Ralink are cheap tat in my experience
[01:28] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: ralink, asus, acer and everything under 500€ i usually throw right away in the pc world
[01:28] <j4s0n> Why isn't the sourcecode included with the kernel?
[01:28] <j4s0n> like the .config is
[01:29] <daftykins> there's a package for that, i think
[01:29] <Tobias[L]> j4s0n: its an extra package, ubuntu keeps it this way, makes it smaller
[01:29] <Tobias[L]> i believe its kernel-headers or something
[01:30] <ubuntuaddicted> hello, i'm trying to get this minecraft launch script to work but i see can not make directory /var/run/screen while the server is booting. how can i fix this? the script is first starting a screen as a certain user and then launching minecraft as a certain user but i guess that user doesn't ahve permission to create a screen session?
[01:31] <Tobias[L]> ubuntuaddicted: for ubuntu-server related questions join #ubuntu-server
[01:31] <daftykins> contacting the person that wrote the script would make more sense
[01:31] <explodes> wtf
[01:31] <xangua> !language | explodes
[01:32] <ubuntuaddicted> Tobias[L], it's a desktop. :)
[01:32] <explodes> When i wake up my computer, everything is minimized. Next to the application icons on the Launcher, the usually-solid triangle on the left-hand side is just the outline; when I click the icon, the application does not appear. When I alt-tab to the any application, it also does not appear then.
[01:33] <Tobias[L]> explodes: nvidia?
[01:33] <explodes> Nvidia.
[01:33] <explodes> 343 iirc
[01:33] <daftykins> that's a non-packaged version
[01:34] <Tobias[L]> explodes: driver problem, i have the same when connecting to a monitor, try another version or instead shutdown
[01:34] <explodes> Crap.
[01:34] <explodes> To downgrade, simply uninstall 343 and install the current version, right?
[01:34] <daftykins> no nvidia-current will be ancient, boot back in and use additional drivers
[01:35] <Tobias[L]> explodes: jep or use synaptic to install an even older version
[01:35] <Tobias[L]> explodes: or daftykins idea
[01:35] <oniongirl> Hurray!
[01:35] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: additional drivers always fail to detect my pc's graphics card (dual gt 650 m)
[01:36] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: i guess it works?
[01:36] <oniongirl> Tobias[L],  yes!
[01:36] <oniongirl> it worked :)
[01:36] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: optimus and SLI? 0o
[01:36] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: next time it hiccups reset it, it just takes some time to fully set-up again
[01:36] <oniongirl> I reset the router, removed all everything from the wifi settings in Ubuntu, rebooted my PC and it connected!
[01:36] <daftykins> excellent
[01:37] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: no, optimus disabled even if i swap the ultrabay gt650m for an hdd
[01:37] <oniongirl> daftykins,  Tobias[L]  thank you so much for your help!!
[01:37] <explodes> K. Downgrading to 340.. Wish me luck I guess
[01:37] <explodes> bbl
[01:37] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: Lenovo Y500
[01:37] <oniongirl> You guys are amazing thank you!
[01:37] <daftykins> 340? 340 isn't packaged either.
[01:37] <Tobias[L]> oniongirl: no problem at all
[01:37] <j4s0n> Tobias[L]: I want the source with the kernel to fufill req.s
[01:37] <daftykins> oniongirl: hopefully it'll last this time, if not i have some configuration ideas
[01:37] <daftykins> lol, "i want this" *quit*
[01:38] <navetz> does internet explorer work in WINE?
[01:38] <oniongirl> daftykins,  lol thank you. hopefully it will work for a while at lest.
[01:38] <thoonai> Tobias[L]: ultrabay graphics card for an lenovo thinkpad? o.O
[01:38] <Tobias[L]> navetz: jep, install playonlinux, it offers IW packages
[01:38] <Tobias[L]> thoonai: Ideapad
[01:38] <leonlemouton> explodes : perhaps  : http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/09/nvidia-343-22-install-in-ubuntu-1404/
[01:38] <thoonai> Tobias[L]: thx
[01:38] <Tobias[L]> thoonai: Lenovo Ideapad Y500 in max config, successor is the Y510 p
[01:39] <Tobias[L]> (battery sucks and high-end games slowly get too much for "ultra"
[01:39] <Tobias[L]> leonlemouton: explodes is offline
[01:41] <leonlemouton> Tobias[L] :( too late
[01:42] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: i hope this chat isnt a representation of being an sysadmin XD
[01:42] <thoonai> Tobias[L]: this is quite a nice idea
[01:42] <thoonai> bye
[01:42] <thoonai> ;)
[01:42] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: life is far less free in here
[01:42] <Tobias[L]> thoonai: can you live with crysis on high and 2 hours bvattery?
[01:43] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: how so?
[01:43] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: since i wanna get into that after completing university :D
[01:43] <thoonai> Tobias[L]: ?
[01:43] <daftykins> a sysadmin would need to swear far more ;)
[01:43] <Tobias[L]> thoonai: thats the Y510p if you consider it
[01:44] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: oh i know torvalds talk, i am just a polite person XD
[01:44] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: also, forgive me my terrible grammar, im just not that well-versed in english since its my second language
[01:45] <thoonai> Tobias[L]: I stick to the business models the consumerstuff does not really get me though the UB graca is super nice idea ;)
[01:45] <thoonai> Tobias[L]: now I've to go to bed, good night
[01:45] <Tobias[L]> thoonai: if it was optimus enabled yes :D  and goodnight!
[01:45] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: not a worry at all, your formality has you come across as a far better english speaker than my own casual online approach
[01:47] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: english persons talking way sloppier than a german non-native? I'm surprised
[01:47] <daftykins> yeah, through typing laziness
[01:49] <Tobias[L]> well if i can swear i definitely will choose sysadmin XD (making a button just to throw any apple device out the network seems tooooo intriguing, connecting it to a fat red buzzer in the hallway i press on when i'm angry XD
[01:50] <explodes> Ayyy
[01:50] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: oh, what's the method involved there?
[01:50] <Tobias[L]> explodes: got it to work?
[01:50] <explodes> I don't know if the "bug was fixed" but the installation went ok
[01:51] <explodes> We'll see!
[01:51] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: oh an deauth for every know mac address range and any registered device thats known to be a mac, and while we are at it my patented XD check-script
[01:51] <Tobias[L]> mac MAC adress range*
[01:52] <Tabmow> IS there any way to remove the taskbar at the top of the screen, with the time/logout etc. from additional monitors? I still want it on my main monitor, just not on the others...
[01:54] <OptimizedCoder> Hi - I want to install a specific version of gcc (gcc-4.1 package)-  but do not want to overwrite my default gcc  (sort of like a sandbox) - this possible? I happen to have a .deb of my preferred gcc which I'd need to use for a specific project. This possible?
[01:56] <Tobias[L]> OptimizedCoder: setup a vm, would be the easiest way
[01:57] <OptimizedCoder> Tobias[L], sheesh - I thought doing something like this was one of the advantages of having a package manager and all that
[01:57] <Jordan_U> OptimizedCoder: Tobias[L]: A VM is definitely overkill.
[01:57] <OptimizedCoder> Tobias[L], - The other way is to just compile that version of gcc from src in a location - but I'mgetting some dang compile errors
[01:57] <Jordan_U> OptimizedCoder: Was this .deb file made for the version of Ubuntu you're using?
[01:57] <Tobias[L]> OptimizedCoder: unless you want to force it to install somewhere else and link all your software to that... this isnt java XD
[01:58] <OptimizedCoder> Jordan_U, Yes- for my arch
[01:58] <Jordan_U> OptimizedCoder: What do you mean by "for my arch"?
[01:58] <Tobias[L]> OptimizedCoder: but definitely possible
[01:58] <OptimizedCoder> Jordan_U, my cPU's architecture - amd64
[01:58] <OptimizedCoder> and also specific to my OS
[01:59] <Jordan_U> OptimizedCoder: That's not what I was asking about. Is the .deb for your specific release number of Ubuntu?
[01:59] <OptimizedCoder> Jordan_U, yep, I addressed that too
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Tobias[L]: OptimizedCoder: It's entirely normal to have multiple versions of gcc installed simultaniously, and like other similar things the default is handled via update-alternatives.
[02:00] <OptimizedCoder> Jordan_U, ah ok - I knew about update-alternatives
[02:01] <OptimizedCoder> I'll just go ahead and deb install it - and switch to wahtever I want using update-alternatives .. and uninstall it once I'm done
[02:01] <Jordan_U> OptimizedCoder: Installing the new version probably won't change the default, and if it does then you can just use update-alternatives to get the default you want back. You can call any specific version of gcc explicitly by running gcc-version.
[02:01] <OptimizedCoder> Jordan_U, Thanks alot!
[02:02] <Jordan_U> OptimizedCoder: You're welcome.
[02:02]  * OptimizedCoder - cue someone pointing me to the difference b/w alot and a lot 
[02:03] <daftykins> OptimizedCoder: no such thing as 'alot'
[02:03] <Tobias[L]> whelp 3 am, daftykins nice talking to you, time to power off my oc XD
[02:03] <daftykins> Tobias[L]: likewise :) goodnight o/
[02:04] <OptimizedCoder> daftykins, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TRIo4br3I/AAAAAAAACv4/Zh7_GcMlRKo/s400/ALOT.png
[02:04] <jakesyl> Hey guys, so I recently got a dell poweredge server, and wanted to install debian on it so i did, and usb worked fine and i used an encrypted lvm, and i stopped once it hit 30% to install ubuntu server, I burned ubuntu to usb, and when i try to boot off it it says missing operating system
[02:05] <daftykins> you fudged your USB drive most likely
[02:05] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: How did you prepare your Ubuntu USB? Is this a UEFI or BIOS based machine?
[02:05] <daftykins> or your download was corrupted
[02:05] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, Did you use dd to 'burn ubuntu' to the usb?
[02:06] <pizzadude> hi my laptop internal mic works in alsa but not pulseauudio
[02:06] <jakesyl> actually yep
[02:06] <pizzadude> can someone help
[02:06] <pizzadude> laptop is lenovo flex 2 15, running 14.04
[02:06] <jakesyl> but the usb worked with debian
[02:07] <OptimizedCoder>  jakesyl, I've seen issues with burning ISOs to usb using dd with default bs
[02:07] <cassio3> can the system detect the device pizzadude?
[02:07] <daftykins> jakesyl: i'd be willing to bet you selected /dev/sdx1 instead of /dev/sdx
[02:07] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, use dd - copy the iso with bs=1024M or so - that should mostly work
[02:07] <jakesyl> unetbootin didn't work either so
[02:07] <pizzadude> yes cassio3
[02:07] <pizzadude> but not pavucontrol
[02:07] <pizzadude> it works in audacity
[02:07] <daftykins> OptimizedCoder: that's a horrific idea for a blocksize O_O
[02:07] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: What dd command did you run?
[02:08] <OptimizedCoder> daftykins, lol sorry typo
[02:08] <cassio3> if it works with audacity
[02:08] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, use dd - copy the iso with bs=4M or so - that should mostly work
[02:08] <cassio3> it's not an ubuntu issue
[02:08] <cassio3> (at least not to my mind
[02:08] <cassio3> )
[02:08] <pizzadude> ok but is there a config file i can edit
[02:08] <pizzadude> to make pulse recognize it
[02:11] <MichaelHabib> Hi,
[02:11] <MichaelHabib> I have Ubuntu server 14 in a vm. After cloning that VM (full clone) the Network Macc Address has not updated in the Ubuntu server. Any idea how to make Ubuntu detect the new Macc / Hardware without having to hardcode the Mac address in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:11] <compdoc> MichaelHabib, you want a new mac address?
[02:12] <MichaelHabib> copec: yep
[02:13] <compdoc> you can use virsh edit to change the address by hand, or just delete the nic and add a new one
[02:13] <MichaelHabib> compdoc: When I cloned the VM, I generated new Mac Address for the network card(s) but running ifconfig still shows that the Network Cards still have the old Mac Addresses
[02:13] <jakesyl> yup it was the usb
[02:14] <trillcollins_tx> hi i need some help
[02:16] <compdoc> have you looked at the file /etc/network/interfaces to see if the mac address is assgined in there?
[02:16] <MichaelHabib> compdoc: I did and no it's not there .
[02:16] <jakesyl> wait so if i shouldnt use dd how should i burn
[02:17] <compdoc> do you use virt-manager?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> !ask
[02:17] <MichaelHabib> compdoc: that's what is confusing me, where else to look and why it's not detecting the new Mac after network restart (ifdown + ifup) and VM reboot
[02:17] <MichaelHabib> compdoc: I have Vmware workstation
[02:18] <compdoc> oh, sorry, I was thinking qemu-kvm
[02:18] <compdoc> thats what I use
[02:18] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, use dd with a low 'bs' arg and you should be fine
[02:18] <OptimizedCoder> bs=2M or bs=4M should possibly work
[02:18] <jakesyl> bs=1m
[02:19] <jakesyl> that's what i burned at
[02:19] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, oh
[02:19] <daftykins> jakesyl: nothing wrong with dd, you likely just did it wrong. also, it's NOT burning on a USB drive.
[02:19] <kapil> hello, i'm having some problem with x chat in ubuntu, whenever i minimize x chat to tray, it disappears
[02:19] <jakesyl> what's it called then
[02:19] <daftykins> copying :P
[02:19] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, can you double check if you're writing to the correct device and or if you're d/l is not corrupt?
[02:19] <daftykins> burning is for optical media only
[02:20] <daftykins> jakesyl: did you MD5 the ISO? are you sure you're using /dev/sdX and not /dev/sdX1 ?
[02:20] <trillcollins_tex> http://i.imgur.com/1NAbxOd.png , i was trying to use the ubuntu cd boot helper and right when it was 100% finished, i would get this
[02:20] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: What is the exact and complete dd command you ran? Is this a UEFI or BIOS based machine?
[02:20] <OptimizedCoder> for starters like someone mentioned you don't dd to /dev/sdab1 but rather to /dev/sdab (if /dev/sdab is your usb drive)
[02:20] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, daftykins knows whats up
[02:21] <daftykins> OptimizedCoder: come again?
[02:21] <daftykins> oh i get you
[02:22] <daftykins> trillcollins_tx: WUBI is an abomination, i would not recommend it.
[02:22] <Bashing-om> trillcollins_tx: Is there a particular reason you desire to use WUBI ? There is little support for WUBI .
[02:22] <trillcollins_tx> not at all
[02:22] <jakesyl> sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntulinux.img.dmg of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m
[02:22] <trillcollins_tx> as i remember whatever i downloaded from ubuntu site for my flash drive, thats what was on there
[02:23] <jakesyl> also i thought b.s stood for burn speed
[02:23] <trillcollins_tx> is there anywhere u could send me where i could do it right?
[02:23] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: No, it's block size.
[02:23] <jakesyl> oh okay
[02:23] <jakesyl> and what exactly does that mean
[02:23] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: It means the size of the chunks that dd will try to copy using.
[02:24] <jakesyl> oh okay
[02:24] <jakesyl> so any idea why that didn't
[02:24] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, why's that a dmg file - thats a mac osx file?
[02:24] <usr13> jakesyl: And as you might imagine, the larger block size will be faster.
[02:24] <daftykins> jakesyl: 'rdisk1' doesn't make sense, plus you used a '1' where i said 2 or 3 times in a row is wrong
[02:24] <Jordan_U> daftykins: They're running dd from OSX.
[02:24] <bubbasaures> trillcollins_tx, That is a wubi issue, not really anyone supporting is all.
[02:25] <Bashing-om> trillcollins_tx: What release of Windows is installed ? ( is the booting EFI or MBR ?)
[02:25] <jakesyl> so it should be disk1
[02:25] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: No.
[02:25] <daftykins> jakesyl: no it's not disk at all. pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l'
[02:25] <OptimizedCoder> jakesyl, can you just link us to your o/p of `sudo fdisk -l` with your usb connected (or is there a variant of this cmd for MAC?)
[02:25] <daftykins> !paste | jakesyl
[02:25] <trillcollins_tx> i have 8 on the laptop im trying to use it on, and trying to install it on the flash drive
[02:25] <OptimizedCoder> daftykins, great minds think alike :)
[02:26] <daftykins> OptimizedCoder: care to explain the progress thus far then ;)
[02:26] <jakesyl> hold on i think it worked
[02:26] <OptimizedCoder> daftykins, the important question though - does fdik work on OSX?
[02:26] <bubbasaures> trillcollins_tx, You know it is a file right, on the usb is strange.
[02:26] <trillcollins_tx> yeah
[02:27] <trillcollins_tx> should i just delete it off of the usb
[02:27] <daftykins> OptimizedCoder: what relevance does that have to this?
[02:27] <bubbasaures> trillcollins_tx, As far as I know it will not run in a uefiW8
[02:27] <OptimizedCoder> daftykins, he's running this on MAC, I gues
[02:27] <trillcollins_tx> fuck
[02:28] <trillcollins_tx> allllrighty then well thanks il bbl when i need more help
[02:28] <jakesyl> okay this time i got isolinux.bin is corrupt
[02:29] <daftykins> jakesyl: can you follow what i'm saying so we can all sleep tonight please :)
[02:30] <jakesyl> interesting development, so I tried it on my server and it threw that error, and tried it on my other pc and it worked fine, also ya sure
[02:30] <daftykins> jakesyl: what OS are you making this flash drive up from?
[02:30] <jakesyl> os x (don't hate me)
[02:30] <OptimizedCoder> daftykins, I thought he was on MAC OSX..
[02:30] <OptimizedCoder> daftykins, yeah see..
[02:30] <Bashing-om> trillcollins_tx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent , http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows . For starters to give ypu some ideas .
[02:30] <daftykins> yeah i scrolled up but couldn't find confirmation, i have tired 2:30am eyes
[02:30] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: If you don't directly reply to this question I am giving up on helping you. Is the server UEFI or BIOS based? If you don't know, then say so rather than just ignoring the quesition.
[02:30] <jakesyl> yeah I i've been following this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[02:30] <daftykins> OptimizedCoder: he doesn't need a parrot, thanks.
[02:31] <rkhshm> i'm trying to build 3.0.101 kernel on a 3.2 base kernel..
[02:31] <jakesyl> bios unfortunately
[02:31] <bubbasaures> lol
[02:31] <rkhshm> is it not possible to build ?
[02:31] <jakesyl> debian worked fine so
[02:31] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: Great. Where did you get this "ubuntulinux.img.dmg" file from? It's almost certainly not what you want to use. Just use a regular Ubuntu iso.
[02:32] <clockwork_> Hello, I am currently on a mobile hotspot with limited bandwidth and I am wondering if anyone can help me get my wifi card working.
[02:32] <jakesyl> It says here to convert it to an img http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx i converted it from the iso to that image, i verified the iso and everything
[02:32] <daftykins> alright, too many cooks spoilt the broth. good luck
[02:32] <usr13> clockwork_: Which wifi card is it?  lspci |grep ireless
[02:33] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: Those instructions are only for making a USB drive for booting from a Mac. Since the target machine, the server, is BIOS based you just want to dd the original .iso file.
[02:33] <clockwork_> It's an Atheros card, I do not know the exact model
[02:33] <usr13> clockwork_:  lspci |grep ireless
[02:33] <rkhshm> any ideas guys?
[02:33] <jakesyl> oh wow, okay let me try that, but i am curious as to why it's working on my dell pc and not my poweredge server
[02:33] <clockwork_> Okay, give me a moment
[02:34] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: Possibly your dell PC is UEFI based?
[02:34] <rkhshm> its been a long time since i built any kernel and now i just wanted to know because i'm not able to build the kernel
[02:34] <clockwork_> I have to reboot, I removed the wificard to see the tag and forgot to put it back in before restarting
[02:34] <jakesyl> also I'm not sure what you meant with rdisk
[02:34] <daftykins> rkhshm: ##linux might be more relevant
[02:35] <rkhshm> ok thanks
[02:35] <usr13> rkhshm: You'll need a registered nick
[02:35] <jakesyl> also, dd command sudo dd if=/Users/Jake_Sylvestre/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.1-server-amd64.iso  of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m
[02:36] <rkhshm> usr13: yes i'm a reg user
[02:36] <usr13> rkhshm: Yes I see now...
[02:36] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: That looks good.
[02:36] <jakesyl> so any idea why it's working on one bios based pc and not the other?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> jakesyl: No.
[02:38] <jakesyl> okay well I'm tryin it now so, I'll tell you what happens
[02:40] <clockwork_> I am back, could you repeat the comand I was supposed to enter?
[02:40] <jakesyl> isolinux.bin missing or corrupt again
[02:40] <businessman> Anyone know of a good android website creator?
[02:40] <clockwork_> I believe Webs has an android editor, but I could be wrong.
[02:41] <clockwork_> Can anyone help me get my wifi card working? I was just here a moment ago
[02:42] <clockwork_> I had to restart to reinstall my wifi card
[02:44] <Bashing-om> clockwork_: "  usr13> clockwork_: Which wifi card is it?  lspci |grep ireless " .
[02:44] <jakesyl> I'll try debian again and see if that works
[02:44] <clockwork_> It's an Atheros card but the tag on it says alteros
[02:44] <usr13> clockwork_:  lspci |grep ireless
[02:44] <clockwork_> Okay
[02:44] <usr13> clockwork_: Show us
[02:45] <clockwork_> 01:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[02:45] <usr13> You have 14.04.1 installed?
[02:45] <clockwork_> Yes
[02:45] <Bashing-om> !paste | clockwork_
[02:46] <clockwork_> I cannot update at the moment however because I am on cellular internet
[02:46] <usr13> clockwork_: iwconfig
[02:47] <clockwork_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017452/
[02:48] <clockwork_> thats the output for iwconfig
[02:49] <usr13> lsmod |grep ath9k
[02:50] <clockwork_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017470/ output for lsmod
[02:51] <usr13> clockwork_: Looks to me like the wifi card is working.
[02:51] <usr13> clockwork_: What does the network-manager say about it?
[02:52] <usr13> clockwork_: Is the network-manager not configured to look for wlan0 ?
[02:52] <usr13> clockwork_: Or have you looked?
[02:52] <clockwork_> I dont even have a command for network-manager let me try installing it?
[02:52] <usr13> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461417/wireless-not-working-on-kubuntu-14-04-qualcomm-atheros-ar9485
[02:53] <clockwork_> I have not command for network-manager and it is installed, I will also check that link out
[02:53] <usr13> clockwork_: What do you have installed?  14.04.1 ?
[02:53] <cryptodan> ifconfig or iwconfig in terminal will let  you know if you have an IP address on your wlan0 and will let you know the wireless interface
[02:54] <clockwork_> I have 14.04.1 installed
[02:54] <usr13> clockwork_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[02:54] <clockwork_> No scan results
[02:54] <EriC^^> usr13: there's no network-manager command
[02:55] <usr13> EriC^^: I did not say there was.
[02:55] <clockwork_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017526/
[02:55] <EriC^^> k thought you wanted something
[02:55] <usr13> EriC^^: it is nm-applet  Right?
[02:56] <usr13> clockwork_: Do you have a wifi router running near you right now?
[02:57] <cryptodan> clockwork_: what does ifconfig or iwconfig show for your wireless?
[02:57] <clockwork_> There are multiple networks, I also have my old phone's wifi hotspot on
[02:57] <clockwork_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017526/
[02:57] <usr13> cryptodan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017452/
[02:58] <cryptodan> and rfkill list all?
[02:59] <clockwork_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017572/
[03:00] <cryptodan> seems like its not beaconing out
[03:00] <clockwork_> Is there a way to fix this?
[03:00] <cryptodan> did this work in windows?
[03:00] <usr13> clockwork_: Go to the link I sent you. (It may *not* be working as it should.)  (This is assuming there *is* a wireless access point in range right now.)
[03:01] <Clockwork[wifi]> Hello?
[03:01] <usr13> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461417/wireless-not-working-on-kubuntu-14-04-qualcomm-atheros-ar9485
[03:02] <Clockwork[wifi]> I got disconnected just now
[03:02] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461417/wireless-not-working-on-kubuntu-14-04-qualcomm-atheros-ar9485
[03:02] <Clockwork[wifi]> I tried both answers
[03:03] <Clockwork[wifi]> Neither worked
[03:03] <Clockwork[wifi]> well ubuntu doesnt have a driver manager, does it?
[03:03] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: What does the network manager say about it?
[03:04] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: ... anything ?
[03:04] <MarcusLaw> Is 14.10 buggy?
[03:04] <Clockwork[wifi]> nothing, still no networks in the list
[03:05] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: And you do, in fact, have a Wireless Router close by?
[03:05] <EriC^^> Clockwork[wifi]: are you sure there are networks in the list?
[03:05] <basil1x> Linux is a work very much in progress, MarcusLaw
[03:05] <EriC^^> Clockwork[wifi]: try unity-control-center network , then press use as hotpot
[03:05] <MarcusLaw> basil1x: I asked about 14.10.
[03:05] <Clockwork[wifi]> Yes, on my windows computer I can picking up 5 wireless networks with a strong signal, plus the hotspot on my old phone is active
[03:05] <Guest38357> hi all
[03:05] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: And is it 802.11 ?  (2.4GHz)?
[03:05] <basil1x> Ubuntu qualifies as linux.
[03:06] <MarcusLaw> basil1x: I'm talking about 14.10 specifically. -_-
[03:06] <Clockwork[wifi]> my phone?
[03:06] <MarcusLaw> basil1x: Are you implying that dumb questions get dumb answers?
[03:06] <xangua> yes
[03:07] <basil1x> No.  Just that you learn to expect a certain amount of bugs in the system.
[03:07] <basil1x> Fact of having a computer, it is.
[03:08] <Clockwork[wifi]> Give me a moment, I'm trying to gather some info on my phone
[03:08] <revhippie> does anyone here know why they removed the ipx packages from 14.04?  (at least, i think they did...)
[03:09] <daysmark_> hello
[03:09] <Clockwork[wifi]> I belive it is 802.11
[03:09] <daysmark_> can you hear me?
[03:11] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: If the WiFi router's radio only transmits on the 5GHz frequencies, this particular network interface won't connect to it, (it appears to be 802.11bgn which I think is 2.4GHz only).
[03:11] <usr13> Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[03:11] <usr13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017452/
[03:12] <cryptodan> it should work at 2.4 and 5ghz
[03:13] <usr13> Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[03:13] <daysmark_> what are you talk about?
[03:13] <uhelp> How do I get the title to appear when I use alt-tab in 14.04?  I worked just fine in 8.04.
[03:13] <Clockwork[wifi]> my phone does broadcast using the 802.11b and 802.11g  frequences, it isn't capable of 5ghz
[03:13] <Clockwork[wifi]> according to my information
[03:14] <uhelp> I looked in "Application Switcher" settings in ccsm but didn't see anything.
[03:14] <cryptodan> N works in both 2.4 and 5Ghz
[03:14] <mendnwngs> ...Interesting.. First time back on IRC since, 2002 or so.. Cool to see it still going.
[03:15] <SchrodingersScat> mendnwngs: party never stopped
[03:15] <usr13> http://www.qca.qualcomm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/AR9485.pdf
[03:15] <mendnwngs> SchrodingersScat, guess I'm just late :-)
[03:15] <Clockwork[wifi]> "EriC^^> Clockwork[wifi]: try unity-control-center network , then press use as hotpot" my wifi card seems to broadcast just fine
[03:15] <usr13> cryptodan: The above link says 24 GHz  but it obviously means 2.4
[03:16] <Clockwork[wifi]> this phone is an older HTC Desire (with a whole wopping 124mb of space to store my stuff in
[03:16] <Clockwork[wifi]> )
[03:16] <mendnwngs> Is there a more sociable channel?
[03:17] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | mendnwngs
[03:17] <usr13> cryptodan: Clockwork[wifi] Actually, on page three it says "1x1 802.11n 2.4 GHz WLAN"
[03:17] <mendnwngs> Oh, cool.. Thank you
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:18] <usr13> cryptodan: Clockwork[wifi] ... but on that same page, it also says, "Frequency Band
[03:18] <usr13> 2.4 GHz
[03:18] <cryptodan> id replace the card that adheres to the standards
[03:18] <usr13> cryptodan: Yea, but if the router is dual-band, he can just revert to 2.4GHz
[03:19] <Clockwork[wifi]> I have another card that also doesnt seem to work, however this one works slightly more often when im in the live disk
[03:19] <cryptodan> which the card should do automatically
[03:19] <usr13> cryptodan: Many of them are now-days
[03:19] <Clockwork[wifi]> the other card works on my windows computer.
[03:19] <Clockwork[wifi]> which is actually quite old
[03:19] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: What is it?
[03:19] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: What chip-set?
[03:20] <Clockwork[wifi]> I don't know, but it shows up as a Ralink card
[03:20] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: Bottom line is, you need to find out what you have and what you are trying to connect to... try and match it  up.
[03:20] <Clockwork[wifi]> everything suggests updating the drivers but the download for the specific card is gone
[03:20] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: This is a Desktop Computer?
[03:20] <Clockwork[wifi]> This is a laptop
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> just for info: system76 has renewed their website with ubuntu computers
[03:22] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: Here is a USB device: http://www.iogear.com/product/GWU625/ (About $25 or so)
[03:22] <Clockwork[wifi]> I would buy one but I am short on money right now
[03:23] <Clockwork[wifi]> however I just found a page that may help me, I'm seeing if there are some possible solutions on it
[03:24] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: It appears to be 2.4GHz only as well, but I have one that works pretty well.
[03:24] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: Ok, good luck...
[03:24] <EriC^^> Clockwork[wifi]: did you try lshw -C network ?
[03:24] <EriC^^> Clockwork[wifi]: if not please pastebin the output
[03:24] <Clockwork[wifi]> do you know anything about ndisgtk? apparently I can install windows drivers with it
[03:24] <Clockwork[wifi]> I will try that right now
[03:26] <Clockwork[wifi]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9017899/
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> !ndiswrapper | Clockwork[wifi]
[03:28] <cryptodan> the wireless access points could be preventing older protocols and just allowing N on 5Ghz
[03:28] <Clockwork[wifi]> my phone connection reset
[03:31] <EriC^^> Clockwork[wifi]: is there anything in additional drivers about the wifi card?
[03:31] <Clockwork[wifi]> Nope
[03:31] <Clockwork[wifi]> There isn't
[03:31] <Clockwork[wifi]> I'm trying ndisgtk
[03:31] <Clockwork[wifi]> maybe that might work
[03:31] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: Is your 14.04.1 install fully updated?
[03:31] <Clockwork[wifi]> I wish I could update but I cant due to limited bandwidth
[03:32] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: Get updated first and then see..
[03:33] <usr13> Clockwork[wifi]: Can you get a wired connection?
[03:33] <Clockwork[wifi]> Not at the moment
[03:33] <Clockwork[wifi]> It will be a while before internet is hooked up at the current rate
[03:34] <Clockwork[wifi]> but my neighbors have wifi so i'm trying to get the wifi card working
[03:34] <trillcollins_tx> i was talking to somebody earlier about installing unbuntu onto my flash drive and this coming up - http://i.imgur.com/1NAbxOd.png, and somebody said that wubi was a shit
[03:35] <trillcollins_tx> so i looked for an alternative installer to wubi and found virtualbox
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: try universal usb installer
[03:35] <trillcollins_tx> i did that
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: you want to create an usb for install right?
[03:35] <trillcollins_tx> its not running ubuntu when i reboot though
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: did you try wubi or universal usb installer?
[03:36] <trillcollins_tx> i created the usb for install, but nothing is running when i reboot, so i open the folder and run the wubi exe to help me try to boot it from the flash
[03:36] <trillcollins_tx> usb installer worked fine
[03:36] <trillcollins_tx> i tried wubi
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: wubi doesnt work for all ubuntu versions anymore
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: universal usb installer should work fine..
[03:37] <trillcollins_tx> so should i use this virtualbox
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: no, virtualbox id for simulating an Os
[03:38] <Bashing-om> trillcollins_tx: " At this time, Wubi does not work with Windows 8 default boot-loader " -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide/ .
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: you can try unetbootin
[03:38] <trillcollins_tx> okay
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: but universal usb installer is the best i found so far
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: you sure you tryed it?
[03:39] <trillcollins_tx> yeah i did the universal usb installer that is on ubuntu's website, and it wrote everything on the flash drive fine
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: and you chose the right architecture?
[03:40] <trillcollins_tx> yeah
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: did you change bios settings to boot the usb?
[03:41] <trillcollins_tx> no i really dont know how to do that
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: you have a win8 machine?
[03:41] <trillcollins_tx> i pressed f12 when it was booting up but i got nothing
[03:41] <trillcollins_tx> yeah
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: you need to disable secureboot and enable legacy bios
[03:41] <trillcollins_tx> how do i do that
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: go into bios and find secureboot
[03:42] <mjayk> if I have duel graphics intel and nvidia do I need to do anything differently when updating graphics card drives
[03:43] <trillcollins_tx> okay brb
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: good luck!
[03:43] <trillcollins_tx> thank you kind sirs!
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: you want dualboot or single boot?
[03:43] <trillcollins_tx> is dualboot having win8 and ubuntu?
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: yes
[03:44] <trillcollins_tx> then no i just want ubuntu on it
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> nice choice!
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> then your good to go
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> just disable secureboot and install ubuntu on whole hd
[03:45] <trillcollins_tx> okay
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: come back here if you need anything else mate
[03:45] <trillcollins_tx> okay ima stay here for a sec to make sure everything goes smoothly
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: your on another box?
[03:46] <trillcollins_tx> yeah im putting it on another laptop
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> great
[03:46]  * basil1x watches with interest.  Initial installs for new friends are always interesting to observe.  Karmic gave me a fright initially, I can tell you.
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> basil1x: :p
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !karmic
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> long time ago :p
[03:47] <cryptodan> only 3 years
[03:47] <basil1x> Well... it was like losing an old, slightly daft and annoying friend.
[03:48] <trillcollins_tx> well the up arrow on the keypad isnt working lol
[03:48] <basil1x> WinXP, that was.
[03:48] <trillcollins_tx> IM IN THE DAMN BIOS MENU
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: plz keep the language polite mate
[03:48] <trillcollins_tx> sorry
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: try F5 and F6 to up/down values
[03:48] <trillcollins_tx> sweet thanks
[03:49] <trillcollins_tx> nope just beeping at me
[03:49] <mjayk> num lock / tab / any weird laptop fn key
[03:49] <trillcollins_tx> nvm got it
[03:49] <basil1x> +/-?
[03:50] <jakesyl> Jordan_u I accidentally delete the utility partition while trying to setup the encrypted lvm which screwed up my raid card in case you were wondering
[03:51] <trillcollins_tx> okay now im doing the legacy support, it asks me yes or no, i cant move left or right for yes/no or press f5/f6 to go to yes
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> someone knows a GUI package to enable/disable /etc/init system services? now im disabling them the manual way with service.override trick
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: read at bottom, should tell you what key to press
[03:52] <trillcollins_tx> i know but the button itself isnt working
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: try Fn combo like mjayk suggested
[03:54] <trillcollins_tx> nothing
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: did you get a warning about bios needs reboot first?
[03:54] <trillcollins_tx> yeah
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: then reboot first and go back into bios lol
[03:54] <trillcollins_tx> lol i hate it
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: your almost there
[03:55] <trillcollins_tx> i knowww
[03:55] <darknessthekidd> How can I make a Windows 7 USB installer from Xubuntu?
[03:55] <darknessthekidd> What program do I Need?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> darknessthekidd: there is a package 'winusb' but needs ppa add
[03:55] <mjayk> darknessthekidd: the iso and hte windows usb creater
[03:55] <darknessthekidd> What is the PPA I need to add? Should I just google it?
[03:56] <mjayk> yea
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> darknessthekidd: yes google winusb for ubuntu
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | darknessthekidd keep this in mind also
[03:57] <darknessthekidd> Yep, Ik thanks anyways.
[03:57] <jakesyl> anyone here have experience with dell servers?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> jakesyl: best is ask your ubuntu issue mate
[03:58] <Seven_Six_Two> I have a dell server.
[03:58] <Seven_Six_Two> although it's an older one
[03:58] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't know if I'
[03:59] <Seven_Six_Two> sorry.. I don't know if I'd call it experience. It sits under the stairs and does its thing. I blow the dust out every few months. It's more Ubuntu experience than anything.
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> jakesyl: checkout the #ubuntu-server guys aswell
[04:01] <trillcollins_tx> okay do i HAVE to do this legacy boot
[04:01] <darknessthekidd> Thanks, I found the command I was missing for WinUSB it was a extra command than normal to add the PPA.\
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: now you should be able to set usb as first boot and override uefi
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: yes, legacy instead of uefi w8
[04:03] <trillcollins_tx> cuz something is wrong with the keyboard and it wont let me use the left or up buttons so i cant enable legacy boot
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> trillcollins_tx: you can try the ##hardware guys if you really cant find your right keys
[04:08] <backbox> .org
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> !info bonnie++ | Ben64
[04:28] <vijai> hello can anybody say how could I get keyboard quick toggles work in ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[04:28] <vijai> My laptop is asus x550ld
[04:29] <ubuntuaddicted> i have a question, i want to edit my audacity launcher but the suggestion is to make it Exec=env PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=30 audacity %U whereas the default desktop file has audacity %F. what's the U vs the F?
[04:36] <krytarik> ubuntuaddicted: See here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
[04:41] <dawson> i had a question about displays :P
[04:41] <dawson> kind of a complex one to
[04:41] <dawson> anyone up for the task?
[04:42] <dawson> anyone even on?
[04:42] <reisio> dawson: I don't see your question
[04:42] <dawson> oh XD
[04:42] <reisio> did it go away since you had it? :p
[04:42] <dawson> my question is that i had 2 displays and one monitor broke
[04:42] <dawson> so im now on the one display
[04:43] <dawson> so now when im trying to open some programs it loads onthe other monitor but its not even there
[04:43] <reisio> but that isn't a question :p
[04:43] <dawson> it is
[04:43] <dawson> im asking how to fix it XD
[04:43] <reisio> is it? :p
[04:43] <dawson> asked how to fix it basically
[04:43] <reisio> dawson: what's your graphics device?
[04:43] <dawson> nvidia geforce the 1gb card
[04:44] <reisio> dawson: lsmod | grep nvidia
[04:44] <dawson> do i have to go to the nvidia control panel?
[04:44] <dawson> whats that lsmod thing reisio?
[04:44] <reisio> it deletes all your data
[04:44] <dawson> O_O
[04:44] <dawson> uhm all of what data
[04:45] <reisio> it says what driver you're using
[04:45] <Hal> hello
[04:45] <Hal> anybody there?
[04:45] <Hal> need help with drivers
[04:45] <reisio> Hal: ?
[04:45] <dawson> reisio i cant screw around with the data
[04:46] <dawson> i got things that i physically CANNOT lose
[04:46] <Guest5343> NickServ : I dont get you
[04:46] <Guest5343> I got asus x550ld
[04:46] <Guest5343> And I dont see my gpu in proprietary drivers window
[04:47] <cryptodan> dawson: is the broken monitor unplugged?
[04:47] <dawson> yes
[04:47] <lyntoo> only unplug and reboot, the defect monitor don't fix your display trouble?
[04:47] <dawson> the power cable for the monitor and the display cable
[04:47] <dawson> ive also made sure in the nvidia settings and display settings that the monitor that is broken is gone
[04:48] <cryptodan> run xrandr and dpaste.com the results
[04:48] <dawson> uhm ok one second
[04:48] <Guest5343> anybody?
[04:48] <reisio> dawson: it says what driver you're using
[04:48] <reisio> Guest5343: where?
[04:48] <dawson> ho do i get it copies
[04:48] <dawson> copied
[04:48] <cryptodan> highlight and right click and select copy
[04:48] <dawson> reisio my driver is a proprietory (idk if i spelled it right) driver
[04:49] <Guest5343> reisio: in Softwares and updates -> Additional drivers
[04:49] <reisio> dawson: what does 'lsmod | grep nvidia' say?
[04:49] <reisio> Guest5343: ?
[04:50] <dawson> reisio im not doing that because you said 2 things
[04:50] <Bashing-om> Guest5343: Show what we are working with -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit < -.
[04:50] <dawson> one being that it deletes my data and you saying it resets my display stuff
[04:50] <dawson> cryptodan: http://dpaste.com/0C5TMXC
[04:50] <reisio> dawson: heh
[04:50] <dawson> reisio i dont mess around.....
[04:50] <reisio> dawson: but if I'd said "it makes all your dreams come true", then you would have trusted me?
[04:50]  * reisio rolls eyes
[04:50] <dawson> no
[04:51] <cryptodan> dawson: wierd you are using one monitor
[04:51] <reisio> it was a joke, vis-a-vis the pointlessness of asking
[04:51] <dawson> cryptodan its just loading skype up on the non existant monitor
[04:51] <reisio> you can either take a person's word on something, or you can look up what a command does and know what it does
[04:51] <reisio> just asking is pointless :p
[04:51] <cryptodan> dawson: are you sure its not configured to load up on another workspace?
[04:51] <dawson> how do i check that O_O
[04:52] <cryptodan> dawson: take a screensot of your full desktop and upload it to imgur.com
[04:52] <Guest5343> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9018891/
[04:52] <dawson> screenshot button :P?
[04:52] <dawson> prtscr right?
[04:52] <cryptodan> yup
[04:53] <dawson> k one sec crypt
[04:53] <Bashing-om> Guest5343: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9018891/ .
[04:54] <dawson> cryptodan: http://imgur.com/zrwjhP2
[04:54] <vAd0r> Can someone confirm how i should be restarting tftpd
[04:54] <dawson> wait wait wait WAIT
[04:54] <dawson> i think it resolved itself
[04:54] <vAd0r> sudo /etc/init.d/xinetd stop or sudo service xinetd restart
[04:54] <vAd0r> and what is the diff
[04:55] <dawson> skype opened up on the right onitor one sec
[04:55] <dawson> ok well nvm
[04:55] <XPOH> hello, guys. is it possible to disable auto display detecting in ubuntu?
[04:55] <dawson> just ubuntu being itself :3 (jk about that btw)
[04:56] <vAd0r> i made some changes to my settings and now i do not see it started and listening in my processes
[04:57] <XPOH> it accidentally changes the resolution to lower, when i pressing system settings or display settings
[04:57] <Michael___> I want to add a new service at startup under condition that it should be run if the network's already up. I want to do it using upstart. Currently I'm reading through the documentation to get to know how to set up this, but if you can provide me with quick explanation I'll be grateful.
[04:57] <Michael___> *should be running
[04:58] <Guest5343> Bashing-om: Any idea?
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | Michael___
[04:59] <Michael___> lotuspsychje: yes, I know. The problem's that I don't know which the event is responsible for the state "the network is up and running" (note "the network" and not "the network device").
[05:00] <agent_white> Evenin'
[05:00] <lyntoo> service --status--all  (to view running services)
[05:02] <Michael___> lyntoo: thanks, it's given me some ideas. Now, I'll have to reboot.
[05:04] <lyntoo> np, you can also start by command like service tftpd-hpa start
[05:04] <linuxmint> Hello, I'm setting up RAID MDADM for the 1st time. I believe I need to add Terminal commands, so should I install a Linux OS, as my blank HDDs are not betting yet. Just the BIOS.
[05:09] <Bashing-om> Guest5343: Intel is not in my bag of tricks. I find this interesting that "Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller >> vendor: Intel Corporation >>  configuration: driver=nouveau . Where 'nouveau' is the Nvidia open source diver ! What returns -> lspci | grep Display <- ?
[05:14] <XPOH> hello, guys. is it possible to disable auto display detecting in ubuntu?
[05:17] <daftykins> XPOH: for what purpose?
[05:18] <XPOH>  it accidentally changes the resolution to lower, when i pressing system settings or display settings
[05:18] <XPOH> or when i'm typing commands in terminal, related to graph mode
[05:19] <daftykins> XPOH: sooo... don't do that? :)
[05:19] <Guest62333> But if I want to add a startup script which is dependent on a service run by a sysv-style script, then I'll have to do it using sysv-style script, yes?
[05:20] <XPOH> it's most frequent case, it does it, when it wants. as if ubuntu lived it own life )
[05:29] <tman21> Good Evening guys, anyone have any suggestions with Dota 2.  My computer will lock up on loading screen about 50% of the time
[05:30] <Noskcaj> tman21, What version of ubuntu are you on, and what graphics driver are you using
[05:32] <tman21> Noskcaj: i'm using 14.04 and i'm using  fglrx-updates propietary
[05:33] <tman21> this is a fresh install of 14.04 as of tonight
[05:34] <strong> [help] How can i use -O2 -o together in gcc
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> how can i show unrar speed from terminal?
[05:37] <lyntoo> what idiot i am, i run startx and crap my longin user session
[05:45] <Noskcaj> tman21, I can't really help then, as that was working fine for me
[05:48] <loserbuntu> hello
[05:48] <loserbuntu> i have a problem with ubuntu 12.03
[05:48] <loserbuntu> 12.04 i mean
[05:48] <loserbuntu> i downloaded 2 .deb files and tried to install them with terminal
[05:48] <loserbuntu> but they had dependencies and thus i dont want to install them anymore
[05:49] <loserbuntu> but now an Errorcount>0 error appeared
[05:49] <raju> loserbuntu: try with sudo apt-get install -f
[05:49] <raju> that will fix the dep's
[05:49] <loserbuntu> yes, but that will try to install all the dependencies
[05:49] <loserbuntu> i dont want to do that
[05:49] <raju> to help you better , we need log .
[05:49] <loserbuntu> ok
[05:49] <loserbuntu> what do you need?
[05:49] <xangua> loserbuntu: how about you install trusted software packages from repositories? Can you even mention what are you trying to install?
[05:50] <Abhijit> what is apache called in 14.04? sudo service apache start and apache2 gives error servire not known
[05:50] <Abhijit> unrecognized server.
[05:50] <loserbuntu> dont remember the exact name
[05:50] <loserbuntu> it was a stupid mistake on my part
[05:50] <loserbuntu> i deleted the .deb
[05:50] <loserbuntu> i dont want to continue installing them
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> how can i show speed/time unrarring an archive from terminal?
[05:51] <loserbuntu> but when i type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:51] <loserbuntu> the .debs are still mentioned
[05:51] <raju> Abhijit: its apache2
[05:51] <raju> give us the log
[05:51] <Abhijit> ok.
[05:51]  * Abhijit type the whole again..
[05:52] <Abhijit> raju, sudo service apache2 start
[05:52] <Abhijit> apache2: unrecognized service
[05:52] <loserbuntu> hello?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !patience | loserbuntu
[05:52] <raju> Abhijit: do as  service --status-all | grep apache
[05:53] <raju> and look at what output says
[05:53] <raju> loserbuntu: please wait bro , while I am helping someone here
[05:53] <raju> loserbuntu: I told you bro , I need log .
[05:53] <loserbuntu> i came here before him
[05:53] <loserbuntu> how do i get the log?=
[05:53] <loserbuntu> i am a complete noob
[05:54] <raju> so I told you bro , I need log. just copy and paste the terminal code and pastebin or some note taking online site and paste that link herer
[05:54] <loserbuntu> log of what,?
[05:54] <raju> what you have tried. what you have entered and what you got.
[05:54] <Bump_> If I pull a hard drive from one computer would I be able to put it in a computer with a lower amount of RAM
[05:55] <raju> Mention the RAM value
[05:55] <Abhijit> raju, http://paste.fedoraproject.org/150987/41603092/
[05:55] <raju> and Bump_  I am not getting your question.
[05:55] <loserbuntu> raju: ok heres the log : http://pastebin.com/55Favk5M
[05:56] <Bump_> 2GB for the new computer and 4GB for the one where the hard drive came from
[05:56] <Bump_> raju, Does Ram affect switching out hard drives
[05:56] <raju> Bump_: come on bro . You can place the harddisk if it is compatible. Its doesnt matter with RAM
[05:56] <raju> no
[05:57] <Bump_> Okay thank you
[05:57] <Abhijit> raju, apache is not listed in that output.
[05:57] <raju> Abhijit:apache2 service I think you havent installed
[05:57] <XPOH> is it possible to disable auto display detecting in ubuntu?
[05:57] <Abhijit> raju, okey.
[05:57] <loserbuntu> raju, is that the log you wanted
[05:57] <loserbuntu> ?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> XPOH: whats your end goal exactly?
[05:58] <raju> sudo apt-get install apache2 and thanks for not reviewing my resume
[05:58] <raju> Abhijit:^^^
[05:58] <raju> loserbuntu: looking bro
[05:58] <loserbuntu> ok
[05:58] <Abhijit> :-D
[05:58] <Abhijit> raju, which resume? when did you sent me?
[05:58] <raju> Abhijit: nice act .
 i want to set my displays resolution ones and forget about it
[05:59] <raju> loserbuntu: there is a problem. In my office pastebin is blocked.  http://paste.fedoraproject.org/ use this
[05:59] <raju> paste here and give me link
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | XPOH
[06:00] <Bump_> raju, What if the Hard drive in the new computer is a SSD does it matter then
[06:00] <loserbuntu> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/150989/41603122/
[06:00] <loserbuntu> you should have told me beforehand that pastebin is blocked
[06:00] <raju> Bump_: Bro I did mentioned already , if its compatible ... same type of socket then no problem. RAM doesnt matter
[06:01] <Bump_> Okay just wondering. Thank you
[06:01] <raju> check whether your PC type will support or not /
[06:01] <XPOH> !xrandr
[06:02] <raju> loserbuntu: as I told you you have to do either " sudo apt-get install -f " or install gdebi and try to install those deb's from gdebi which can take care of dependencies automatically.
[06:02] <XPOH> lotuspsychje, i,ve found this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[06:02] <HerroWorlds> why does it feel like freenode is broken?
[06:03] <HerroWorlds> its not forcing me to identify before talking
[06:03] <raju> HerroWorlds: what makes you feel like that ?
[06:03] <XPOH> but can't find /etc/gdm/Init/Default in my system
[06:03] <HerroWorlds> raju: It's not forcing me to identift
[06:03] <loserbuntu> raju: does that mean that i have to install those dependencies to remove them?
[06:03] <raju> HerroWorlds: you check in maintab of freenode . there it will tell you to notify
[06:04] <genii> Hm
[06:04] <HerroWorlds> its not forcing me to ident before i can talk in channels...
[06:05] <raju> loserbuntu: No  you need them to install those deb's you are trying to install
[06:05] <loserbuntu> raju: I no longer want to install those debs
[06:05] <loserbuntu> i want them removed, flushed out
[06:05] <raju> come on bro
[06:05] <loserbuntu> all references to them
[06:05] <raju> so now you dont want to install them >
[06:05] <raju> ?
[06:05] <loserbuntu> yes, that's what i said
[06:06] <loserbuntu> i made the mistake to try install them
[06:06] <loserbuntu> i want everything the way it was before
[06:06] <raju> but you first said you want to install them
[06:06] <loserbuntu> i didnt
[06:06] <loserbuntu> i just want that dependency error gone
[06:06] <loserbuntu> I want that BrokenCount>0 error gone
[06:07] <raju> so to avoid error i want you to install those deps
[06:07] <loserbuntu> i wont install them
[06:07] <raju> come on
[06:07] <loserbuntu> is there no way to remove them?
[06:07] <raju> yes you can remove them using
[06:07] <loserbuntu> using what?
[06:07] <raju> dpkg -r packagname
[06:08] <XPOH> why not install them first, and than normally remove?
[06:08] <loserbuntu> ok ill try that
[06:08] <Guest18686> hey I've connected my android device but ubuntu does not read/recognize it. I'm on ubuntu 14.04.
[06:08] <Tabmow> IS there any way to remove the taskbar at the top of the screen, with the time/logout etc. from additional monitors? I still want it on my main monitor, just not on the others...
[06:08] <raju> XPOH: hmm he dont wanna isntall
[06:08] <loserbuntu> yes i dont
[06:08] <bwk> hey I've connected my android device but ubuntu does not read/recognize it. I'm on ubuntu 14.04.
[06:09] <loserbuntu> i think it worked, raju
[06:09] <raju> bwk make sure you have connected in MSC mode
[06:09] <raju> loserbuntu:r good
[06:09] <cfhowlett> bwk
[06:09] <raju> mass storage mode bro
[06:09] <bwk> raju what does that mean?
[06:09] <bwk> raju, and how do I do it?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> bwk upgrade to 14.04.1    set your android as "storage" mode in the settings
[06:09] <loserbuntu> raju: ok, it says removed
[06:10] <loserbuntu> but now how do i get rid of that ugly red circle with the minus sign?
[06:10] <raju> Two modes one for Images a and Mass Storage . From USB Settings you can choose
[06:10] <raju> just do
[06:10] <loserbuntu> yes?
[06:11] <Blaster> How come I get “System program problem detected” after every restart?
[06:11] <raju> loserbuntu: just do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; its like you interreputed/mess with some installlation
[06:11] <loserbuntu> ok
[06:11] <loserbuntu> ill try it
[06:11] <raju> Blaster: see more detail why its coming
[06:11] <loserbuntu> did sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Blaster, how would we know?  read the error details message
[06:11] <loserbuntu> still the ugly red circle
[06:12] <raju> restart and try again
[06:12] <Blaster> Sorry let me get the message.
[06:12] <loserbuntu> ok
[06:12] <loserbuntu> brb
[06:12] <Blaster> ExecutablePath /usr/lib/upower/upowerd crashed with SIGSEGV in service_client_free().
[06:13] <Blaster> Every single time I restart this happens.
[06:13] <raju> report a bug then
[06:14] <raju> apport upower in terminal i think
[06:14] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:14] <raju> cfhowlett: ok ok i got it . thank you
[06:14] <cfhowlett> raju, :)
[06:15] <raju> cfhowlett::)
[06:17] <loserbuntu_> ok i think it worked
[06:17] <loserbuntu_> i no longer see that ugly red circle
[06:17] <loserbuntu_> thank you
[06:17] <loserbuntu_> do you think i should upgrade to 14.04?
[06:17] <loserbuntu_> i have 12.04
[06:18] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, both are long term support.  your choice.
[06:18] <loserbuntu_> ok
[06:18] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, note: you can directly upgrade 12.04 >>> 14.04
[06:18] <loserbuntu_> is 12.04 still supported?
[06:18] <loserbuntu_> yea, i heard about that
[06:18] <Ben64> until 2017, yes
[06:18] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, 5 years on the desktop = until 2017
[06:19] <loserbuntu_> ok great
[06:19] <raju> !support
[06:19] <raju> Hi cfhowlett How can I see complete bot options
[06:19] <loserbuntu_> i was wary of upgrading to 14.04 since i heard of failed upgrades leaving the installation corrupt
[06:20] <cryptodan> loserbuntu_: always back up regardless
[06:20] <cfhowlett> raju, first: /msg ubottu !bot         will avoid flooding this channel.
[06:20] <loserbuntu_> cryptodan: backup my data?
[06:20] <raju> ok cfhowlett thank again
[06:20] <cryptodan> loserbuntu_: yup
[06:20] <Ben64> loserbuntu_: upgrades almost always fail because of non-standard software, PPAs and stuff like that
[06:20] <raju> ok cfhowlett thanks again
[06:20] <loserbuntu_> ben64: then i should not try to
[06:20] <cfhowlett> raju, happy2help
[06:20] <Ben64> loserbuntu_: the less weird stuff you got going on, the easier the upgrade will be
[06:21] <loserbuntu_> how do i ensure that I dont have any weird stuff ?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, actually, now that we're at 14.04.1    most new release issues have been solved.
[06:21] <loserbuntu_> i would like to upgrade to 14.04 at least
[06:21] <Ben64> loserbuntu_: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[06:21] <loserbuntu_> ok
[06:21] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, I only boot LTS and only upgrade at first point release = .1
[06:21] <loserbuntu_> ok i will one moment pls
[06:22] <cryptodan> loserbuntu_: backup custom configs, and your /home and you should be okay
[06:22] <eb0t> test
[06:22] <loserbuntu_> how do i get the contents of those sources.list files'
[06:22] <loserbuntu_> ?
[06:23] <eb0t> is it not /etc/sources.list
[06:23] <eb0t> or something similar
[06:23] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <loserbuntu_> ok
[06:24] <Ben64> and cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[06:24] <loserbuntu_> i just opened the file with gedit
[06:24] <eb0t> use vim its much better
[06:24] <loserbuntu_> vim sucks
[06:25] <cfhowlett> let's not have *that* religious debated again :)
[06:25] <eb0t> its the most powerful editor known to man
[06:25] <eb0t> gedit is for kids
[06:25] <Abhijit> and to women?
[06:25]  * cfhowlett thinks "Oh, hell.  It begins."
[06:25] <cryptodan> no Notepad is the most powerful editor known to man kind
[06:25] <eb0t> ha ha
[06:25] <loserbuntu_> ok
[06:25] <loserbuntu_> here's sources.list:
[06:25] <loserbuntu_> http://pastebin.com/4mRSGwgx
[06:26] <XPOH> so who is for sublime? )
[06:26] <loserbuntu_> sources.list.d is a directory
[06:26] <loserbuntu_> it has many files
[06:27] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone know how to turn off the audio feedback in mumble? lol  everytime someone types something into the chat it says it back to me verbally
[06:28] <XPOH> ubuntuaddicted, does it spell correctly?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> loserbuntu_: -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit <- .
[06:28] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted, on xubuntu System > accessibility > assistive technologies
[06:28] <DrakkenWarr> I would add a space
[06:29] <loserbuntu_> bashing-om, thank you
[06:30] <panos986> me
[06:30] <loserbuntu_> here's sources.list.d:
[06:30] <loserbuntu_> http://pastebin.com/jjZnKMbF
[06:30] <panos986> hi
[06:31] <ubuntuaddicted> i found it, it was under configure. Text to Speech was set
[06:32] <loserbuntu_> ben64, did you get both files?
[06:32] <loserbuntu_> both pastebins i mean?
[06:34] <loserbuntu_> another thing that i have noticed is that package-manager doesnt tell me 14.04 is available for upgrade
[06:34] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, if your system is set to LTS only, it should.  otherwise ...
[06:35] <loserbuntu_> how do i see that?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, system > update manager > settings
[06:36] <Mikey^> loserbuntu_: you can also type details in the ubuntu launchbar
[06:36] <loserbuntu_> how do i do that?
[06:37] <loserbuntu_> ok got it
[06:37] <Mikey^> loserbuntu_: Click on the Ubuntu icon nad type update
[06:37] <Bashing-om> loserbuntu_: Package manager is not complaining of "duplicated sources" > as " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu precise main" and "src" lines are duplicated .
[06:38] <loserbuntu_> Bashing-om, what do i do then?
[06:38] <loserbuntu_> Mikey, yes im on package manager now
[06:39] <loserbuntu_> anyone looked at the sources.list and sources.list.d that i pastebinned?
[06:43] <loserbuntu_> hello?
[06:44] <Bashing-om> loserbuntu_: The "duplicate" entries, are they the result of backup " ~ " files ? If so, no action is required on your part.
[06:44] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, pastebin blocked in china.  try fpaste.org
[06:45] <loserbuntu_> Bashing-om: no idea how they came to be
[06:45] <loserbuntu_> i remember adding some entries when  i installed steam
[06:47] <loserbuntu_> ok, here's sources.list: http://fpaste.org/150991/14160340/
[06:48] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, if you're not developing, you don't need the source entries ...
[06:49] <loserbuntu_> OK
[06:50] <loserbuntu_> but how do i make package-manager or whatever tell me that 14.04 is available?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade             should tell you that
[06:52] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, note: 14.04.1 sources:  http://fpaste.org/150995/
[06:52] <trickyj> how to check the owner of the installed package ?
[06:52] <loserbuntu_> cfhowlett: do i replace my  sources.list  with that one?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, nope.  try this instead to rebuild your list:  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[06:53] <loserbuntu_> ok
[06:53] <Apachez> any suggestions on where to find proper hda jack pinout settings to use beats audio in hp pavilion 15 laptop with ubuntu 14.10 ?
[06:54] <loserbuntu_> i did a sudo do-release-upgrade and in terminal it says that it wants to download 2.3GBs
[06:54] <raju> cfhowlett: just forgot , what is the IRC channel for Ubuntu daily iso checkings
[06:54] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, right.  normal.
[06:54] <cfhowlett> raju, wait 1
[06:55] <loserbuntu_> but this is terminal
[06:55] <loserbuntu_> is there a way to make package-manager tell me that?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, ??? and?  terminal is where real work happens.  package-manager is the pretty gui.
[06:55] <loserbuntu_> i like the pretty gui. im a shallow person :)
[06:56] <cfhowlett> raju you mean for discussion of the development version?  #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, :)  right.
[06:56] <loserbuntu_> besides package manager used to tell me 14.04 was available for download
[06:56] <loserbuntu_> how do i make it do that again?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, are you set to upgrade LTS only?
[06:57] <loserbuntu_> yea i think i am
[06:57] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, "... I think ..."
[06:57] <loserbuntu_> ill see
[06:58] <Apachez> "... ill see ..."
[06:58] <loserbuntu_> notify me of a new ubuntu is set to LTS
[06:58] <trickyj> I have installed JAVA but still getting error while installing one of the application. here is the terminal output kindly help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9020315/
[06:59] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, right
[06:59] <loserbuntu_> but it still doesnt tell me that 14.04 is available
[06:59] <Ben64> trickyj: we can't really help you with non-ubuntu software
[06:59] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, worth mentioning: 12.004 > 14.04 update manager alerts were buggy.
[06:59] <loserbuntu_> but it used to tell me
[06:59] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, but since you KNOW 14.04 is available, why stress it.  upgrade or don't!
[07:00] <loserbuntu_> i remember starting ubuntu and getting a notification that 14.04 was readdy
[07:00] <loserbuntu_> i like to stress
[07:00] <loserbuntu_> i want to use update-manager
[07:01] <loserbuntu_> could i update to 14.10?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, 14.10 is not LTS
[07:01] <loserbuntu_> i know that
[07:01] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, and your update manager is set to ... ?
[07:02] <loserbuntu_> i changed it to any new
[07:02] <Apachez> what a cliffhanger
[07:02] <loserbuntu_> and now its telling me 12.10 is available! :D
[07:02] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, correct.  it'll see the next version.
[07:02] <loserbuntu_> ok
[07:02] <loserbuntu_> how do i make it see 14.04 or 14.10?
[07:04] <loserbuntu_> hello?
[07:04] <Ben64> you have to upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04
[07:04] <loserbuntu_> yes i want to do that
[07:04] <loserbuntu_> but update manager is telling me 12.10 is available
[07:04] <Ben64> choose LTS not any
[07:04] <loserbuntu_> how do i make it see 14.04
[07:04] <loserbuntu_> i set it to LTS again
[07:06] <loserbuntu_> hello?
[07:07] <cfhowlett> loserbuntu_, the lack of interest you see is what happens when your question has been asked and answered more than one.
[07:07] <cfhowlett> *once*
[07:07] <loserbuntu_> just tell me how to make it see 14.04 and im gone
[07:10] <cryptodan> baby steps
[07:10] <cryptodan> If you want to make it faster download 14.10 and install fresh after backing up data
[07:13] <Ademan> so I just had a panic moment when I ran out of disk space in the middle of installing a package. Since there is some amount of reserved space on the partition, and nothing apparently failed, is everything ok?
[07:14] <cfhowlett> Ademan, maybe ... sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:15] <gshmu> I want start thunderbird minimize
[07:16] <gshmu> but not compizconfig-settings-manager and alltray
[07:18] <gshmu> or start it at other WorkSpace
[07:19] <DeafGuy> Hello there
[07:19] <EriC^^> gshmu: why without compizconfig ?
[07:19] <DeafGuy> Is there any way I could possibly play Counter Strike on my Ubuntu?
[07:19] <EriC^^> gshmu: there's also devilspie
[07:20] <EriC^^> DeafGuy: i think steam supports it
[07:20] <cfhowlett> DeafGuy, install steam.  install CS
[07:20] <gshmu> EriC^^: I want more way
[07:20] <EriC^^> gshmu: devilspie
[07:20] <DeafGuy> EriC^^, cfhowlett: I already created a Steam account, and installed Steam, but I can't find CS through searches.
[07:21] <cryptodan> DeafGuy: it should be in your library
[07:21] <DeafGuy> cryptodan: Not sure what you mean. Could you explain?
[07:21] <cfhowlett> DeafGuy, if you didn't purchase CS, you won't see CS
[07:21] <DeafGuy> I'm not familiar with Steam. What library are you talking about?
[07:21] <cfhowlett> !steam | DeafGuy
[07:21] <cryptodan> DeafGuy: I will do one better
[07:21] <DeafGuy> Oh. It's not free.
[07:22] <DeafGuy> Let me rephrase my question then.
[07:22] <DeafGuy> Is there any way I could possibly play Counter Strike for FREE on my Ubuntu?
[07:22] <cryptodan> No DeafGuy
[07:22] <cfhowlett> DeafGuy, no.
[07:22] <DeafGuy> Umm okay. Are there any games I could play for free, using Steam?
[07:22] <cryptodan> DeafGuy: http://i.imgur.com/JiArijg.png see how I have it in my library that means I own it
[07:23] <DeafGuy> Except Max Gentlemen, which sucks :/
[07:23] <cfhowlett> DeafGuy, look in the steam games store.
[07:23] <cryptodan> DeafGuy: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_4_4__12&term=free
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[07:26] <Flannel> dominic1134: Please don't advertise/spam here, thanks.
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[07:29] <DeafGuy> Thanks.
[07:29] <DeafGuy> Is there anything other than Steam I could try? :/
[07:30] <cfhowlett> DeafGuy, software center, search for games
[07:31] <Guest97434> can anybody tell me how to execute a python script by just double click in xubuntu?
[07:32] <EriC^^> Guest97434: that's not recommended
[07:32] <cfhowlett> Guest97434, and your question was already answered in !xubuntu  <xangua> right click, properties, mark it as program/executable
[07:33] <Guest97434> EriC^^: why?
[07:33] <EriC^^> Guest97434: you won't see the output and/or errors
[07:34] <Guest97434> EriC^^: i know that but i just want
[07:34] <EriC^^> Guest97434: if you absolutely had to, you could make a script that called gnome-terminal with the command and let it stay open
[07:35] <EriC^^> gnome-terminal -e "/bin/bash -c '/path/to/script.sh; exec /bin/bash -i'"
[07:35] <EriC^^> that will call the script in gnome-terminal and leave it open after it runs
[07:35] <Guest97434> EriC^^: is there another way
[07:36] <EriC^^> i mean, gnome-terminal -e "/bin/bash -c '/path/to/pythonscript.py; exec /bin/bash -i'"
[07:37] <Guest97434> EriC^^: ok, thanks
[07:40] <EriC^^> Guest97434 you need to add python before /path/to/pythonscript.py
[07:55] <acollins> hello, I'm having trouble with my touchpad since upgrading to 14.10
[07:55] <acollins> the bottom left corner can't be used for clicks anymore.
[07:56] <acollins> is there a way to change that?
[07:59] <EriC^^> acollins: yes
[07:59] <EriC^^> acollins: you mean the corner of the touchpad right?
[08:02] <hyde> hi, I'm having dhcp apparmor problem when connecting tessel via usb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9021079/
[08:03] <hyde> any suggestions? like, "allow all", how?
[08:03] <acollins> EriC^^, yes
[08:04] <Apachez> so installing a new laptop and got stuck in the choices between ubuntu 14.04 LTS, Ubuntu 14.10 and Linux Mint 17 :S
[08:04] <hyde> I'm now looking at sbin.dhclient apparmor config file, but the format is... not something you can edit without diving into documentation, it seems.
[08:04] <yao_ziyuan1> can anyone recommend a video converter? (e.g. MOV to H.264)?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> yao_ziyuan1, avconv
[08:06] <mah3uz> hmm
[08:06] <daftykins> Apachez: well, feel free to come back if you decide ubuntu.
[08:07] <hyde> hmph, I guess I'll use Windows instead for this, no time to start studying apparmor :-(
[08:09] <Poodle2> Question: Generating a 4096 RSA-key via ssh-keygen is very fast. But generating a 4096 RSA-key via gpg is taking so long because of entropy. Can someone tell me the reason?
[08:09] <Ademan> cfhowlett: thanks, it looks like there was nothing pending
[08:10] <cfhowlett> Ademan, happy2help
[08:12] <Rastart> hey there. something wrong with my ubuntu time to get some information about all processes running.
[08:12] <Poodle2> Rastart: Use ’top’ in command line
[08:13] <Rastart> what's the best way to get detailed information about processes? mean: how do they exactly work.. not a basic info.
[08:13] <Rastart> can you help that noob find some comfort in that troubled life?
[08:14] <Ben64> can you explain what you mean
[08:16] <Name141> Is wubi still supported?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Name141, no.
[08:16] <Name141> cfhowlett: Hm.. I got an old XP machine that wont boot with nothing but DVD/CDs.. But I don't have any..
[08:17] <Name141> cfhowlett: What is the latest version for Wubi?
[08:17] <Rastart> I got many kind of errors..even system errors..I'm worried about my privacy and I would like to disable every function that is not strictly needed. you know that even if linux usually doesn't have virus issues viruses are not the only trouble you can have by surfing the net.
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Name141, it's not supported, it's not compatible with 14.4
[08:18] <cfhowlett> IOW it will break things
[08:18] <Name141> cfhowlett: 12.04 LTS wont work/be supported?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Name141, install virtualbox to windows, install lubuntu to virtualbox
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Name141, 12.04 maybe
[08:19] <Name141> cfhowlett: Perhaps that'll buy is time till they can get a CD-R.
[08:19] <bekks> Name141: you dont need a cd-r for virtualbox.
[08:19] <Name141> Unless there is some kind of trick to make ye olde Pentium 4's boot from USB?
[08:19] <Rastart> I only would like to know more about how ubuntu work to make everything work without errors and have better security too.
[08:20] <Rastart> even if i don't do really much..I like to feel safe and i think is my right.
[08:20] <cfhowlett> Rastart, go.  learn.  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[08:21] <Rastart> i need knowledge..nothing more..
[08:21] <Rastart> and..cfhowlett..thank you for this.
[08:21] <Rastart> :)
[08:24] <deego> Hi. My flash player has stopped working on most websites following an update. Reinstalling doesn't help either.  Anyone seeing the same thing?
[08:24] <Rastart> i'll read it. do anyone know other useful sources for processes and system information?
[08:24] <Rastart> i feel like i would like to study a lot so please help me :)
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Rastart, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[08:25] <Rastart> i think the more i know the more I'm able to help too and that's awesome thing :)
[08:31] <Rastart> it's hard to really understand linux when spent a whole life exploring windows...it's totally different..and I'm trying and trying to better understand...and I always feel like a newbie..cause to make it all work and be able to make it work by yourself mean without asking for help with every trouble you find on the way...you have to understand perfectly how everything works...
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Rastart,here's a hint.  get off irc and go read the books that were suggested.  talking about learning linux is NOT learning linux
[08:34] <Rastart> that's exactly what i would like to to...learning. i know it would take maybe years...since i started running linux i always hoped to be able one day to be useful to linux community someway.
[08:34] <Rastart> yeah cfhowlett..thank you for everything. see you around.
[08:44] <charl> hello how to remove this escape char on a file? ^[[?1h^[=^[[H^[[2J^[[?25l^[(B^[[
[08:44] <charl> tried sed but few still remains
[08:44] <daftykins> ask in the bash channel
[08:44] <charl> did already, ty
[08:45] <YALex> Hello using ubuntu 12.04 server and grub is not automatically booting
[08:45] <YALex> Have checked the timeout values in /etc/default/grub and it appears to set correctly
[08:45] <daftykins> sits on the menu not booting the default, is it?
[08:45] <daftykins> YALex: ...
[08:46] <YALex> yes thats correct daftykins
[08:46] <daftykins> do you have a separate /boot partition?
[08:46] <YALex> no i do not daftykins
[08:47] <daftykins> ah ok, that's my theory out. i installed a modified ubuntu a while back that ended up having kernels stored in the /boot on /, but then a /boot partition over-mounted /boot confusing life
[08:47] <daftykins> seemed it had a broken installed incapable of merging the two
[08:47] <daftykins> *installer too
[08:48] <YALex> its a server so need to autoboot
[08:49] <YALex> any other advice daftykins
[08:49] <daftykins> nah, that's me for now. gotta run for breakfast now i'm afraid
[08:49] <daftykins> good luck though
[09:03] <trex> anybody tell me how to search in google or anyother website via command line.
[09:04] <EllieGoulding> links
[09:04] <EllieGoulding> lol
[09:08] <cfhowlett> trex, ask #google
[09:09] <trex> need a command to search a word in website and get the result
[09:16] <trex> need a command to search a word in website and get the result
[09:16] <cfhowlett> trex, /join ##linux and ask them
[09:17] <EllieGoulding> man this place is even dryer than 14.10 right now
[09:17] <EllieGoulding> *crickets
[09:19] <cfhowlett> EllieGoulding, ask your support question.
[09:20] <EllieGoulding> can someone else ask one, i'll support instead :)
[09:31] <rob_> hi, anyone got a mid 2014 macbook pro and ubuntu 14.10 working properly? for me i get a lot of packetloss and the connection drops out periodically..
[09:32] <cfhowlett> rob_, 14.04 works great and it's LTS
[09:32] <rob_> cfhowlett: is it a problem specifically with 14.10?
[09:32] <rob_> (is it known?)
[09:33] <cfhowlett> rob_, IDK.  I only LTS
[09:33] <rob_> cfhowlett: which wifi chipset do you have? lspci -nn -d 14e4: reports 14e4:43a0 for me..
[09:34] <cfhowlett> rob_, using a 2014 Mac Air I believe it's the same chipset.
[09:34] <cfhowlett> rob_, broadcom
[09:35] <rob_> cfhowlett: is it the same bcm4360?
[09:35] <cfhowlett> rob I think so ... Apple standard OEM equipment
[09:36] <rob_> hmm ok thanks, i'll give 14.04 a go
[09:36] <rob_> pretty odd though
[09:38] <cfhowlett> rob_, I snuck into the corner of the Apple Store, live booted Ubuntustudio 14.04        no wifi.  navigate to filesystem > cdrom > pool > main > d > dpkg -i dkms.deb         do the same for restricted > b > broadcom        fun times.
[09:39] <EllieGoulding> man you shoulda threw windows xp on there
[09:39] <EllieGoulding> winxp is the shit!
[09:39] <cfhowlett> EllieGoulding, stop it now.  trolling and profanity violate the guidelines
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | EllieGoulding
[09:39] <rob_> cfhowlett: funny :)
[09:40] <EllieGoulding> :(
[09:41] <erle-> ecryptfs-recover-private does not find my wrapped passphrase file, but it is there
[09:41] <erle-> what can I do?
[09:41] <onla> If I want to install something which has install instruction that starts with a command "brew", how do I install it? I can't find any packages called brew. This is the software https://github.com/qrush/gsay
[09:42] <onla> Is that brew installed alongside rubygems, if I need to install that, do I?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> onla, refer to the README on that git
[09:46] <onla> that's where I am referring
[09:46] <onla> installation: brew install mpg123
[09:46] <cfhowlett> onla, sounds like an included app
[09:47] <onla> I am googling "what is brew linux?" and I get some ruby stuff here and there
[09:48] <onla> after that brew it says "gem install gsay" and that also is some ruby links on google
[09:48] <onla> but can't find clear instructions what I need to install in order to run brew and gem
[09:48] <cfhowlett> onla maybe a good question for ##linux
[09:49] <onla> ok thanks
[09:49] <EllieGoulding> I just got banned from ##linux just cuz I told some guy to dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[09:50] <EllieGoulding> pretty dumb
[09:50] <Midoshi27> Hello all. So I recently installed Ubuntu 14.10 on my Lenovo Thinkpad W520 and I'm loving the OS but I have an issue: when running on Windows the Thinkpad had a 'Power Manager' with an option for 'Turbo Mode' (this would turn on the GPU's dedicated fan for extra cooling when running high end graphics). Since install Ubuntu clearly there is no 'Power Manager' like this. I'm wondering where I might find this option? Would it be in th
[09:50] <Midoshi27> e BIOS?
[09:58] <Blaster> I have a 1TB internal HDD that I added, and in Ubuntu when I type `lsblk` I see it listed as sdb, but how do I make it accessible?
[09:59] <Blaster> I tried mounting with `sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt` and I got `mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist`.
[09:59] <Midoshi27> Hello all. So I recently installed Ubuntu 14.10 on my Lenovo Thinkpad W520 and I'm loving the OS but I have an issue: when running on Windows the Thinkpad had a 'Power Manager' with an option for 'Turbo Mode' (this would turn on the GPU's dedicated fan for extra cooling when running high end graphics). Since install Ubuntu clearly there is no 'Power Manager' like this. I'm wondering where I might find this option? Would it be in th
[09:59] <Midoshi27> e BIOS?
[10:00] <Blaster> Midoshi27: Sup you son of a bitch!
[10:00] <Midoshi27> Blaster! You old son of a gun!
[10:00] <Blaster> Wow we both asked a question at almost the same time.
[10:00] <explosive> Blaster: sudo parted -l
[10:01] <explosive> paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[10:01] <Blaster> 1 minute plz
[10:01] <Blaster> Midoshi27, you should see my new console colours, they rock.
[10:01] <Blaster> Almost as good as yours lol.
[10:02] <Midoshi27> Blaster: I bet it's sexy
[10:02] <Blaster> explosive: http://pastebin.com/mtnC5M83
[10:03] <Blaster> Midoshi27: http://imgur.com/3UehAAL
[10:04] <Midoshi27> Blaster: Nice dude
[10:04] <Blaster> Hard on the eyes at first but I'm adapting lol.
[10:04] <Midoshi27> hahahaha good choice
[10:04] <Blaster> Midoshi27, your laptop still running mad hot?
[10:05] <Midoshi27> Blaster: Yeah pretty top hot
[10:06] <Blaster> So basically the switchable graphics on your NVIDIA Quadro 1000M are running in discrete mode and now you need to figure out how to get the GPU fan to turn on?
[10:06] <Midoshi27> yeah exactly
[10:07] <Blaster> We gotta get that figured out before you overheat your CPU or Motherboard.
[10:07] <Blaster> The fan used to turn on when you had Windows right?
[10:08] <Midoshi27> yeah it was with the specific Power Manager
[10:08] <Midoshi27> which is stupid
[10:08] <Blaster> Windows power manager had an option to enable the fan?
[10:08] <Midoshi27> sorry it was a Lenovo Power manager
[10:09] <explosive> Blaster: my internet is really slow right now
[10:09] <Blaster> There could be an option in the BIOS.
[10:09] <explosive> Blaster: can you type sudo blkid | grep /dev/sdb and paste here?
[10:09] <Blaster> I kinda remember seeing some stuff there.
[10:09] <explosive> the pastebin page isn't loading
[10:10] <Midoshi27> Blaster: Just found this article, I'll be fine: http://sagark.org/optimal-ubuntu-graphics-setup-for-thinkpads/
[10:10] <Blaster> Midoshi27:  Perfect.
[10:10] <Blaster> explosive, where should I paste it?
[10:10] <explosive> here, should be a line or 2
[10:11] <Blaster> explosive: /dev/sdb: PTUUID="08c108c1" PTTYPE="dos"
[10:14] <explosive> Blaster: that's all?
[10:14] <Blaster> Midoshi27: You may want to try checking the "advanced" tab in your BIOS to enable your fan before doing those steps.
[10:15] <Blaster> explosive, yes.
[10:15] <Midoshi27> Blaster: sure, I got a weird error last time tho
[10:15] <explosive> Blaster: can you paste sudo parted -l in paste.ubuntu.com?
[10:15] <Blaster> Midoshi27, take note of the error next time.
[10:15] <explosive> i think something's wrong with pastebin
[10:16] <Blaster> Midoshi27: might have to take a pic with your phone if it's long and it comes up pre-boot.
[10:16] <Blaster> explosive, no it works fine.
[10:17] <explosive> Blaster: k, cause you got 4 views on it
[10:17] <Blaster> explosive, so you can see it?
[10:17] <explosive> no, just the views and size loads
[10:17] <Blaster> Maybe 4 people from here clicked my link.
[10:17] <kleinerdrache> hi there
[10:17] <explosive> yeah, usually you'd get about 100
[10:17] <kleinerdrache> when I use awesome window manager, i miss the change user in the menu.  how can I get it?  Or are there some commands to use for that?
[10:18] <Blaster> explosive: On a Friday night/Saturday morning?
[10:18] <explosive> Blaster: there's 1700 people here
[10:18] <LeMike> I don't get it. I did `gpg -K` and see two keys. don't they have a password or something so that I can test them? I like to encrypt some passwords with one of the keys (via `pass`) but don't know which to use. aren't I supposed to provide a password for that?
[10:18] <explosive> that's about 1/20 people checking it
[10:18] <Blaster> Probably half are bots.
[10:19] <explosive> Blaster: ok man
[10:19] <Blaster> Do you still want to see my `parted -l` output?
[10:19] <Blaster> explosive: Try this http://i.imgur.com/3UehAAL.png
[10:19] <explosive> sure
[10:20] <kleinerdrache> oh, i found it: dm-tool
[10:20] <explosive> Blaster: ok, did it used to be a gpt partition table?
[10:21] <Blaster> explosive, I don't even think the drive has been formatted.
[10:21] <Blaster> I just put it in recently and Ubuntu doesn't recognize it.
[10:22] <explosive> Blaster: you have to have partitions with filesystems to mount them
[10:22] <Blaster> It shows up on lsblk though.
[10:22] <Ben64> does it show any partitions
[10:22] <explosive> Blaster: it recognizes it, and it has a msdos partition table
[10:22] <Blaster> Ben64: How do I tell?
[10:22] <explosive> but no partitions
[10:22] <Blaster> That was in the parted output?
[10:22] <Ben64> Blaster: well, look at lsblk
[10:23] <explosive> Blaster: yes, it's in the parted output
[10:23] <Blaster> sdb      8:16   0 931.5G  0 disk
[10:23] <explosive> Blaster: is the drive new?
[10:23] <Blaster> No.
[10:23] <Ben64> Blaster: yep, looks unpartitioned
[10:23] <Ben64> unless theres more after that sdb
[10:23] <Blaster> Last time it was installed was in my Windows computer.
[10:23] <explosive> Blaster: cause it can be either that there are no partitions on it, or it used to gpt and was converted to mbr, and has stray gpt data
[10:24] <Blaster> How do I fix it?
[10:24] <explosive> Blaster: try sudo fixparts /dev/sdb
[10:24] <Blaster> Warning: 0xEE partition doesn't start on sector 1. This can cause problems
[10:24] <Blaster> in some OSes.
[10:24] <explosive> no problem
[10:25] <Blaster> It wants an MBR command.  Is this going to wipe the old data?  I don't know if there's anything important on there.
[10:25] <Blaster> I wanted to check and see.
[10:25] <explosive> Blaster: did it mention anything about stray gpt data?
[10:25] <Blaster> Nope.
[10:25] <explosive> Blaster: you can try sudo testdisk
[10:25] <explosive> to see if it will pick up any partitions
[10:25] <Blaster> Cool.
[10:26] <Blaster> testdisk Loox Like A Snazzy Program.
[10:26] <Blaster> sorry that was lame
[10:27] <Blaster> explosive: I can figure it out from here thanks.
[10:28] <explosive> you sure?
[10:28] <Blaster> I was just gonna leave it and do something else.
[10:28] <explosive> ah ok
[10:29] <Blaster> I would like to use it for storing my movies but a) I need to find if anything important is on it and b) I need to fix the filesystem issues and get it formatted to work in Linux, so it seems like too much work.
[10:29] <axel86> hi
[10:30] <Ben64> Blaster: really not that much work
[10:30] <explosive> it's a couple buttons in testdisk
[10:30] <Blaster> Okay I'm gonna try it.
[10:32] <Blaster> explosive, Ben64 it says Please select the partition table type, and I recall seeing something about it being DOS, but I don't see that option.
[10:32] <explosive> Blaster: select Intel
[10:32] <matthias_> hello, i'm having problems to get ltsp-remoteapps to run on a fat client with ubuntu 14.04 lts server. i created /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf and added [Default]     LTSP_FATCLIENT = True     REMOTE_APPS = True
[10:32] <matthias_> after that reboot the client and run there ltsp-remoteapps "passwd"
[10:34] <Blaster> explosive, it found 4 Linux Partition during quick search, but couldn't find any bootable partitions.
[10:34] <explosive> what do you mean by bootable?
[10:34] <explosive> Blaster: press "p" over the partitions to view the files
[10:34] <Blaster> explosive, teskdisk just popped up a message that said that no bootable partition was found before it let me do a quick search.
[10:35] <explosive> Blaster: no problem
[10:35] <Blaster> Oh I remember what I used this drive for now.
[10:35] <Blaster> It can be completely wiped. It was going to be my primary drive for running Ubuntu but I decided to order an SSD and use that instead.
[10:36] <matthias_> and when the screensaver gets activated on  a fat client, i can't login anymore
[10:37] <explosive> Blaster: ok, if you're sure, exit testdisk, then type gksu gparted
[10:37] <Blaster> Now do I run an MBR command with fixparts or should I format it to work with Linux with something else?
[10:37] <explosive> Blaster: do you want it just for linux? or you want to be able to use it on windows as well?
[10:37] <Blaster> I've never been this sure before.
[10:38] <explosive> Blaster: if it's for movies and stuff, you could make it ntfs and it would work with windows and linux
[10:38] <Blaster> I use KVM with a Windows guest and I may want to share with the guest at some point.
[10:39] <Blaster> I can just use a network share or something for that so I am sure that file system won't really matter.
[10:39] <Ben64> ntfs is still pretty slow on linux
[10:39] <Blaster> What's best? FAT32?
[10:39] <Ben64> for linux? ext4
[10:39] <Blaster> Oh okay.
[10:40] <Blaster> What's the quickest way to find what file type a drive is partitioned as?
[10:40] <Blaster> Filesystem type I mean.
[10:40] <Ben64> parted -l, fdisk -l, gparted, blkid
[10:40] <Ben64> pick your favorite
[10:41] <Blaster> Coolio!
[10:41] <Blaster> I would prefer to use ext4 on that /dev/sdb drive.
[10:42] <Blaster> Here goes gparted.
[10:42] <Blaster> explosive, what's **gksu** gparted?
[10:42] <Blaster> Nevermind, stack is my friend. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/66479/what-is-the-difference-between-gksu-and-sudo
[10:43] <Ben64> to add to that, you should never use "sudo" for graphical applications, it can cause permission problems and you could experience some weird errors later
[10:43] <Blaster> Why's that?
[10:44] <Blaster> That sounds smelly.
[10:44] <Ben64> huh?
[10:45] <Ben64> gksudo sets up the environment properly for gui stuff
[10:45] <Blaster> What is it about sudo + GUI that can lead to permissions errors?  Do I really need to install gksu to use gparted?
[10:45] <Ben64> gksudo should already be installed
[10:45] <Blaster> The program 'gksudo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing...
[10:45] <Blaster> I'm on Ubuntu 14.10.
[10:45] <evilwombat> Hey guys. I know that halfway through boot, ubuntu 14.04 likes to muck with the current console, load a console font, etc. Is there any way to prevent it from touching the framebuffer in any way at all?
[10:45] <Blaster> Desktop version.
[10:46] <explosive> Blaster: just type gparted-pkexec
[10:46] <Ben64> Blaster: then just launch gparted from the dash or whatever
[10:46] <Blaster> Options are good.
[10:46] <Blaster> I'm in!
[10:47] <ax562> is there an ubuntu blu ray burning app?
[10:47] <Blaster> Just looks like a whopping 931.51GiB of unallocated space on that /dev/sdb1 drive.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !blueray  ax562
[10:48] <Name141> How long is 14.04 good for?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !blueray | ax562
[10:48] <explosive> Name141: april 2009
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Name141, `5 years of support
[10:48] <explosive> sorry
[10:48] <cfhowlett> 2019
[10:48] <Name141> explosive: 2009?!
[10:48] <Name141> oh
[10:48] <explosive> Name141: april 2019
[10:49] <Name141> explosive: Turns out I had a Kubuntu 12.04 LTS disk laying around.
[10:49] <Blaster> I don't need swap on a secondary internal HDD do I?
[10:49] <Name141> To use on that old machine
[10:49] <Ben64> Blaster: nah
[10:49] <Name141> Is that still supported?
[10:49] <Blaster> Wheeee
[10:49] <SupaYoshi> is there anyone here that uses qemu?
[10:49] <explosive> Name141: yes
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Name141, 12.04 has 5 years of support = 2017
[10:49] <Blaster> It worked guys
[10:50] <SupaYoshi> I updated to the latest version and now qemu only starts a vnc server and not a gui anymore ? :P
[10:50] <SupaYoshi> The vnc server works, but I want the gui ? :P haha
[10:50] <Name141> I might go on and upgrade to 14.04 LTS though.
[10:50] <Blaster> A couple more questions for you folks...
[10:50] <Name141> I suppose that LTS -> LTS is decently safe?
[10:51] <Blaster> How do I change the disk label for that drive, by default it was set to “1.0 TB Volume”?
[10:52] <Blaster> That's probably a googleable question.
[10:52] <Blaster> Figured it out
[10:52] <cfhowlett> Name141, generally safe, but I've learned to prefer LTS >>> LTS.1   i.e. first point release before upgrading.  so ... 12.04 >>> 14.04.1
[10:52] <jester-> Blaster: sudo e2label /dev/sdxx newlabel
[10:53] <Name141> cfhowlett: It just said "Kubuntu update avalable"
[10:53] <Blaster> Last question is about samba shares, can you mount a samba share at an arbitrary location on your hard disk?
[10:53] <Blaster> As the client.
[10:53] <Name141> available
[10:53] <cfhowlett> Name141, right.  from 12.04 that would take you to 14.04.1
[10:53] <cfhowlett> Name141, as 14.04.1 is the current release
[10:53] <Name141> cfhowlett: Alrighty, I'll see what happens.
[10:54] <Name141> cfhowlett: installing the packages is what's going to take forever.
[10:54] <Guest21592> i need help with touchpad issues on a Dell Inspiron 13 7000
[10:54] <cfhowlett> Name141, take it easy: torrent 14.04.1       make a usb and clean install
[10:54] <jester-> !samba > Blaster
[10:55] <Name141> cfhowlett: The old CeleronD (Pentium 4 era) machine can't USB boot and I'm out of CD-R's
[10:55] <Name141> I just so happened to have a 12.04 LTS CD laying around
[10:55] <Name141> I made some years/months ago
[10:55] <cfhowlett> Name141, !!! well do NOT install ubunt then; lubuntu or xubuntu are better options
[10:55] <Ben64> you might as well stay on 12.04 then
[10:56] <TopologyProdigy> hello
[10:56] <Blaster> ubottu: I don't do private messages
[10:56] <Ben64> and just replace the computer before 2017 :)
[10:56] <Name141> cfhowlett: xubuntu-desktop should install xfce later?
[10:56] <TopologyProdigy> can someone help me delete system 32?
[10:56] <Name141> Well, with the tiny 8 GB hard drive probably best to keep one GUI
[10:56] <Blaster> ubottu: What do you mean, I thought computers were supposed to be smarter than humans?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Name141, xubuntu = ubuntu core + xfce4 + apps
[10:56] <Morgy59> i need help with trackpad not working at all after sleep on ubuntu 14.10 on  a dell inspiron 13 7000
[10:57] <Name141> Kubuntu is using 6.5 GBs already.
[10:57] <cfhowlett> TopologyProdigy, deleting system 32 will cripple windows - not something we are likely to do.
[10:58] <Name141> The original 80 GB hard drive went out in it, and I had an 8 GB laying around from a Pentium 2 era.
[10:58] <Name141> strangly it worked.
[10:59] <TopologyProdigy> cfhowlett:  are you a linux engineer?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Name141, sounds legit.  14.04 is considerably more gpu hungry than 12.04 and lubuntu is optimized for older / lower spec hardware like yours
[10:59] <cfhowlett> TopologyProdigy, no
[11:00] <Name141> cfhowlett: Perhaps I should have kept it 12.04 then.. oh well now
[11:00] <cfhowlett> Name141, test for yourself: sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4
[11:01] <Name141> cfhowlett: it's too late, my "LNFZ" stopped.  The downloads are done though, but the updates are going
[11:01] <Name141> (12-5 AM is the only unlimited bandwidth hours)
[11:01] <TopologyProdigy> well i m a WIndows Engineer
[11:01] <cfhowlett> Name141, command will install the other 2 desktop environments.  logout, choose DE, login.  for the full mean deal: sudo apt-get install *buntu-desktop
[11:01] <TopologyProdigy> I know what im doing
[11:02] <cfhowlett> TopologyProdigy, then you don't need OUR help maintaining windows.  please take further queries to ##windows as this is ubuntu support
[11:02] <TopologyProdigy> and I want to delete sys 32
[11:03] <cfhowlett> TopologyProdigy, "I know what I'm doing" ... seems that was untrue.  and off-topic.
[11:06] <youknowyet> i really need to know if i can disable dedicated vga on notebook, in the way to use only integrated intel
[11:06] <explosive> youknowyet: check the bios maybe
[11:06] <k1l_> youknowyet: see the bios setting
[11:07] <youknowyet> ok
[11:35] <agent_white> quiet in here
[11:36] <cfhowlett> agent_white, quiet = ubuntu is humming along
[11:36] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Hahah good point :)
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:37] <agent_white> \o
[11:37] <bastidrazor> quiet = ubuntu will not connect
[11:41] <agent_white> I worry about that sometimes when the crickets come out
[11:41] <agent_white> "Did... was... a netsplit?!"
[11:42] <ikonia> agent_white: what ?
[11:42] <agent_white> ikonia: When it gets _very_ quiet on all my channels at once, I worry there was a netsplit.
[11:42] <agent_white> I enjoy constant chatter.
[11:43] <ikonia> ok, so not really something for discussion in this channel then please.
[11:44] <k1l_> agent_white: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat. thanks
[11:44] <agent_white> k1l_: Understood, it wasn't chitchat. Just a comment.
[11:45] <EriC^^> /8
[11:45] <EriC^^> *
[11:48] <EriC^^> oops
[11:50] <agent_white> EriC^^: Move that to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[11:51] <bigel> bonjour
[11:52] <bigel> vous aller bien
[11:52] <bazhang> !fr
[11:52] <EriC^^> bigel: /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:53] <virtsam> hello
[11:53] <unlockus> hello guys
[11:53] <EriC^^> hello
[11:54] <virtsam> anyone here savvy about about stalling steam games to external drives?
[11:54] <oty> I've a old audio file I'm unable to read. What tool should I use ? It's a .wav
[11:55] <oty> smplayer warns me : [format] Sample format big-endian MPEG-2 not yet supported
[11:55] <oty> I have no idea what this means
[11:55] <unlockus> guys i need help, i have 4 computers in my network and i want to make afile server, just for the computers from my network what is the best choice to do that ? ubuntu server?
[11:56] <kk_drop> how to call shell command by ssh in background?
[11:56] <unlockus> the server i want to use it as backup for the documents and files from the other computers
[11:56] <EriC^^> kk_drop: can you rephrase your question?
[11:57] <EriC^^> kk_drop: or explain what you're trying to achieve?
[11:57] <rubiksmomo_> unlockus: Do you have Ubuntu on all those computers?
[11:57] <unlockus> on 3 of them
[11:57] <unlockus> one has windows 7
[11:58] <unlockus> and i want to leave as it is with w7
[11:58] <OerHeks> oty from a sony cam perhaps? .bnp fileformat is not supported (yet)
[11:58] <rubiksmomo_> unlockus: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[11:59] <unlockus> thanks rubiksmomo_
[11:59] <unlockus> i will do it like this
[11:59] <rubiksmomo_> unlockus: no problem, internet search does it :)
[12:00] <unlockus> i know, but i was asking here because i see that here are lot of people that actually use and know  how to manage ubuntu
[12:01] <kk_drop> EriC^^, I'm logged with ssh on my server and want to call this procedure: ruby script/rails server webrick -e production
[12:01] <kk_drop> EriC^^, but then I can't close terminal becouse server stops
[12:01] <scyllane> 要要切克闹
[12:02] <kk_drop> EriC^^, so I would like to call it in background mode (if there is somehting like this) and close terminal and would like server to sill runnig
[12:02] <k1l_> !cn | scyllane
[12:02] <OerHeks> !cn | scyllane
[12:02] <ikonia> kk_drop: screen
[12:02] <EriC^^> kk_drop: you can use screen
[12:02] <kk_drop> great, thank you
[12:03] <virtsam> i have attempted to create a directory on an external USB flash drive specifically for steam game installs. however, when i select that directory it shows that i have 1.6 Gb available. This cannot be correct since i created /media steamgames on a 64GB flash drive. im pretty certain the value displayed in steam is available storage on my chromebook since it only has 16 Gb total and i've already installed several programs to it. Any ideas?
[12:04] <ikonia> virtsam: what OS are you running exactly
[12:05] <virtsam> xfce4
[12:05] <ikonia> virtsam: no, that's a desktop
[12:05] <ikonia> virtsam: what operating system/distribution/version are you running
[12:06] <k1l_> virtsam: lsb_release -d
[12:06] <virtsam> lsb_release -d
[12:06] <virtsam> doh
[12:06] <virtsam> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[12:07] <ikonia> virtsam: do you know how to use a pastebin ?
[12:07] <virtsam> not a clue
[12:07] <virtsam> i know enough to be dangerous
[12:08] <ikonia> virtsam: ok, so if you go to pastebin.ubuntu.com in a browser
[12:08] <ikonia> you can put data in there, and then hit submit and share the link with us, we can then see what you see
[12:08] <ikonia> virtsam: please put the output of "df -h" into the pastebin please and give us the link
[12:11] <virtsam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9024166/
[12:12] <ikonia> virtsam: are you sure that's not chromeos
[12:13] <paracetamol> JOIN #paracetamol
[12:14] <virtsam> I was under the impression it was not. when in chrome i ctrl+alt+t to access terminal. i run "shell" and then "sudo startxfce4"
[12:14] <ikonia> virtsam: did you actually install ubuntu or was it already installed ?
[12:14] <virtsam> i installed it.
[12:15] <ikonia> virtsam: can I see the ouptut of uname -a in the channel please
[12:15] <virtsam> and im able to run multiple programs that chrome never could. so im pretty certain im in ubuntu. the paste came from a terminal running in what i believed to be ubuntu.
[12:15] <ikonia> virtsam: can you please show me the output of uname -a
[12:16] <virtsam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9024231/
[12:16] <ikonia> virtsam: ok, this looks wrong to me, very wrong
[12:16] <ikonia> virtsam: lsb said ubuntu 14.04.1
[12:17] <ikonia> yet that is the kernel from 12.04
[12:17] <ikonia> and there is various odd output lines (that could be explained realisticially) in your df output
[12:19] <EriC^^> virtsam: try cat /etc/issue
[12:19] <ikonia> EriC^^: I don't think thats going to help
[12:19] <ikonia> EriC^^: as the output of lsb conflicts with the kernel
[12:19] <ikonia> so a text file isn't going to be trustworthy
[12:22] <virtsam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9024295/
[12:22] <ikonia> virtsam: what is saying (precise)?
[12:22] <ikonia> where is that coming from ?
[12:23] <EriC^^> why's uname -a not say ubuntu btw?
[12:23] <EriC^^> maybe he's using a custom kernel or something?
[12:23] <ikonia> it doesn't look like ubuntu
[12:23] <ikonia> it looks like chromeos
[12:24] <Ben64> yeah ubuntu should be #xx-Ubuntu SMP
[12:24] <ikonia> or some custom distro
[12:24] <virtsam> ^^^
[12:24] <WhiteBlizzard> virtsam dit you install "ubuntu" on your chromebook?
[12:24] <virtsam> im guessing custom distro
[12:24] <ikonia> virtsam: how are you guessing that ?
[12:24] <ikonia> virtsam: I asked "did you install it"
[12:24] <ikonia> virtsam: you said "yes"
[12:24] <ikonia> virtsam: you should know what you installed
[12:28] <virtsam> www.techpicks.net/how-to-install-linux-on-chromebook
[12:28] <virtsam> those were the steps i followed
[12:30] <EllieGoulding> what chromebook you have?
[12:31] <virtsam> hp 2709m
[12:32] <EllieGoulding> is it arm based or x86
[12:33] <virtsam> x86
[12:33] <DrManhattan> I am installing ubuntu to a system with firmware raid1. my boot device is on that raid1 device, /dev/md126. in order to boot from my raid1 device do I install the bootloader to /dev/md126 or /dev/md ?
[12:33] <EllieGoulding> http://www.howtogeek.com/162120/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-your-chromebook-with-crouton/
[12:34] <ikonia> this is pretty much outside the scope of this channel
[12:34] <ikonia> chroot style installs into chrome os isn't really within scope
[12:35] <EllieGoulding> its /md126
[12:36] <virtsam> nonetheless, i appreciate the feedback. i think i have an idea about my next course of action. thank you all for the assist.
[12:37] <DrManhattan> EllieGoulding, thank you
[12:37] <EllieGoulding> :)
[12:38] <XPOH> hey, guys, how to make this permanent: xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[12:38] <XPOH> xrandr --addmode DVI-0 1920x1080_60.00
[12:38] <XPOH> xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1920x1080_60.00
[12:38] <bennypr0fane> hello,  can you help me with starting this Java program in Xubuntu? it's IBM SPSS and came in a .bin installer, I installed it under /opt. It didn't create a menu entry in the main menu though, how do I lanuch it, and how do put a convenient menu entry in the Whisker menu?
[12:39] <XPOH> now i have to reenter theese lines every reboot
[12:43] <ubuntu-studio> heelo all
[12:43] <EllieGoulding> hello
[12:43] <gamerx> hello
[12:43] <ikonia> 12:13 < paracetamol> JOIN #paracetamol
[12:44] <ikonia> oops
[12:44] <ikonia> sorry
[12:45] <erle-> what is the natural way to configure synaptics touchpad in utopic? There is no more /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[12:46] <paracetamol> ¶Ô ikonia Ëµ Forget playing this /
[12:46] <paracetamol> ¶Ô ikonia Ëµ (20:43:45) <ikonia> 12:13 < paracetamol> JOIN #paracetamol
[12:46] <paracetamol> ¶Ô ikonia Ëµ understand?
[12:47] <OerHeks> paracetamol, stop it please.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> zero tolerance = I like it!
[13:02] <viking141> Hello i have newly installed ubuntu 14.04 but the font is cluttered in sites like facebook. What may be the issue? Thanks
[13:03] <EllieGoulding> cluttered how?
[13:03] <EllieGoulding> screenshot?
[13:04] <viking141> Not smooth..and kind of over sharp
[13:07] <viking141> EllieGoulding here is a screenshot of the issue regarding font http://awesomescreenshot.com/0d43utzx02
[13:08] <EllieGoulding> the font looks fine
[13:08] <EllieGoulding> you can always change it to something else
[13:08] <EllieGoulding> ubuntu light should be less "cluttered"
[13:11] <OerHeks> over sharp, first time i hear this one
[13:12] <michele1993> is there eric?
[13:13] <gfgfggg> HI ALL
[13:13] <loa> what is ubuntu light?
[13:14] <michele1993> i've kworker that use 70% of my cpu help
[13:15] <EllieGoulding> I use 100% of it on a regular basis you're fine :P
[13:16] <sacarlson> michele1993: I had something like that yestarday with both firefox and chrome both taking 100% due to some content in a website that had some flash stuf in it
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[13:18] <michele1993> 95°
[13:18] <michele1993> it always active
[13:19] <michele1993> the kworker it's a process that come from the bios signal
[13:21] <sacarlson> michele1993: I see 20 processes that are called kworker one in top is seen but useing 0% cpu on my system
[13:22] <bmullan> is there a specific IRC channel for discussing LXD?
[13:23] <michele1993> i've only one process with 70% of cpu usage in top
[13:23] <sacarlson> bmullan: is that what docker uses?
[13:24] <bmullan> sacarlson: no.  LXD is the new "hypervisor" Canonical just announced that will be advancing LXC technology
[13:24] <bencc> how can I use multiple enviroment variables from the command line at the same time?
[13:24] <bencc> "ENV1=1 command"
[13:24] <bencc> I need ENV1 and ENV2...
[13:26] <michele1993> if i change in this file gedit /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe06
[13:26] <michele1993>  from enabled to disabled i do wright ?
[13:27] <michele1993> gedit  /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe06
[13:27] <michele1993> ok?
[13:27] <Luyin> michele1993: I don't understand your question.
[13:27] <belgianguy> Anyone knows what powers the Dash search in Ubuntu?
[13:27] <michele1993> ok now i show you
[13:27] <Luyin> michele1993: with gedit file you open the file with the gedit editor
[13:27] <michele1993> yes
[13:27] <belgianguy> eg what programming language/framework?
[13:27] <michele1993> then i want to write disabled in this file
[13:28] <sacarlson> bmullan: seems docker uses LXC not LXD but they sound much the same,  docker makes lxc easy to handle http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-lxd-not-a-docker-replacement-a-docker-enhancement-7000035463/
[13:28] <Luyin> michele1993: then open the file as you wanted to and do it in the editor
[13:28] <michele1993> look this /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe06:140203199   enabled
[13:28] <Luyin> im afk
[13:28] <michele1993> look michele@michele-K53SC:~$ grep . -r /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/
[13:29] <michele1993> and this is all /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/sci:140396206
[13:29] <bmullan> sacarlson:   no, docker used to use LXC but decided to create their own "container" mgmt technology like google did with "lmctfy"
[13:30] <michele1993> can i disable gpe06?
[13:30] <sacarlson> bmullan: the docker I use today still uses lxc.  I know at some point they like to make another contained but only in dreams at this point as far as I know
[13:31] <belgianguy> is there a more programming related ubuntu chat?
[13:31] <belgianguy> I want to learn about its underpinnings
[13:31] <HewloThere> How can I find a folder recursively in Ubuntu?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, too broad.  choose a language first.
[13:32] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: I want to know how the Dash works, what/if it uses an indexer, and what language that uses
[13:32] <belgianguy> It's probably not Solr/Java
[13:33] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk
[13:33] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: thanks, will go and check it out :)
[13:33] <bmullan> sacarlson:   Docker has now developed their own implementation libcontainer that uses kernel container capabilities directly.
[13:33] <michele1993> (gedit:23465): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[13:34] <michele1993> why?
[13:34] <joh_> Hi, what would be the answer here?
[13:34] <joh_> http://pastebin.com/MkcCyK8i
[13:35] <bmullan> sacarlson:   I think the confusion comes because alot of blogs talk generically about LXC when really talking about namespace container technologies like docker
[13:36] <belgianguy> joh_: what is the question?
[13:36] <sacarlson> bmullan: you must be right as I look at dependancies of docker.io and it now has lxc as a suggested not dependancy
[13:36] <joh_> Its about a copyleft provision
[13:36] <bmullan> sacarlson:   see docker's github for libcontainer... https://github.com/docker/libcontainer
[13:37] <belgianguy> joh_: do you want to use it? Or do you want to see if it's compatible with other licences?
[13:37] <joh_> belgianguy: Its a question from a quiz. I am not sure, whats the right answer
[13:38] <belgianguy> joh_: ahh, I see
[13:38] <joh_> its not good formatted as I see xD
[13:38] <belgianguy> I don't think 3 is possible, and 1 is untenable
[13:39] <belgianguy> 5 is certainly correct
[13:39] <joh_> Ok, thank you
[13:39] <belgianguy> 2 is not factual IMO
[13:39] <belgianguy> And about 4 I'm not sure
[13:39] <sacarlson> joh_: would that not depend on what was in the provision?
[13:40] <joh_> sacarlson: it was just this question without any background
[13:41] <sacarlson> joh_: they didn't provide you with witch gnu or other oh copyleft ha ha what is that
[13:42] <belgianguy> AGPL, no?
[13:42] <joh_> its actually from cisco netacad ^^
[13:44] <sacarlson> any one ever get simon the voice recognition software to work?  no error spit out anymore but nothing is being detected with trained or other models
[13:44] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: the SDK is to make apps
[13:44] <belgianguy> I want to see what powers the Dash internally :)
[13:45] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, download the code and take a look then.
[13:45] <sacarlson> belgianguy: you can look at the source of dash if you wish
[13:45] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: sorry for disturbing you
[13:45] <flux242> will they ever fix the server, huh? W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[13:45] <belgianguy> sacarlson: that'd be nice
[13:46] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, not disturbing me = I didn't fully appreciate your question
[13:46] <Tabmow> IS there any way to remove the taskbar at the top of the screen, with the time/logout etc. from additional monitors? I still want it on my main monitor, just not on the others...
[13:46] <Guest31982> hello guys i have problem with kde 5 on 14.10 . I can not emulate in on VBox.
[13:46] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: nm
[13:46] <k1l_> Tabmow: not that i know of
[13:50] <gebruiker> why do you use ubuntu(linux) and what kind of user are you of the dekstop' (how would you decribe it yurself)
[13:50] <kodare_br> Hi
[13:50] <cfhowlett> !poll | gebruiker,
[13:50] <ikonia> gebruiker: not really what this channel is for
[13:50] <gebruiker> oh
[13:50] <gebruiker> where do I go then?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> gebruiker, #homeworkhelp
[13:51] <matthias_> My lockscreen looks like this: http://imgur.com/7LJ22Jh
[13:51] <gebruiker> cfhowlett, ?
[13:51] <k1l_> gebruiker: #ubuntu-offtopic for example
[13:51] <gebruiker> thanks
[13:52] <kostkon> matthias_, mint?
[13:52] <belgianguy> cinnamon at least :p
[13:52] <sacarlson> belgianguy: this may not be the same version as we now use in ubuntu so if you want to modify ubuntu version best find it's source http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/dash.html
[13:52] <matthias_> kostkon: no it is ubuntu mate ltsp
[13:52] <kostkon> matthias_, ok
[13:52] <matthias_> kostkon: i have the problem that the password is wrong and i can't start a remote_app
[13:52] <belgianguy> thanks sacarlson, I was looking on launchpad but could not yet find it
[13:53] <AlexPortable> I accidently removed network-manager
[13:53] <AlexPortable> how can i get it back? internet isn't working atm
[13:53] <belgianguy> AlexPortable: you can install from other media IIRC
[13:53] <k1l_> AlexPortable: get it from package.ubuntu.com and install it
[13:53] <flux242> AlexPortable: how do you chat now if internet isn't working?
[13:53] <popey> AlexPortable: wired or wireless?
[13:53] <belgianguy> eg download with your phone, transfer to hdd and reinstall
[13:54] <AlexPortable> flux242: another pc
[13:54] <AlexPortable> popey: both is broken
[13:54] <popey> AlexPortable: does it have a wired port and cable though?
[13:54] <AlexPortable> yes
[13:54] <popey> (because wired is easier to get working that wireless)
[13:54] <k1l_> AlexPortable: or set the connection with another way and use that to use apt-get
[13:54] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: or manually setup network with ifconfig or maybe just need sudo dhclient eth0
[13:55] <AlexPortable> dhclient command not found
[13:55] <k1l_> ok, i see enoug supporters here so i drop that ticket :)
[13:55] <popey> AlexPortable: you can manually setup the config in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:55] <popey> AlexPortable: which is what you would do if you didn't want/need network manager anyway
[13:55] <AlexPortable>  /etc/networking/interfaces is emptyd
[13:55] <belgianguy> AlexPortable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/422928/how-to-reinstall-network-manager-without-internet-access -> take a look at the second answer
[13:56] <popey> AlexPortable: wrong location
[13:56] <popey> i said /etc/network/interfaces
[13:56] <popey> just stick two lines in... like this:-
[13:56] <popey> auto eth0
[13:56] <popey> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[13:56] <zteam> Hi all!
[13:56] <popey> assuming eth0 is your wired device
[13:56] <anjo-aladiah> When we first install windows it stay with 4 partition included system, recovery etc. After we install ubuntu paralell, and it will erase all partitions and live only 1 for windows ?
[13:57] <AlexPortable> how do i reload it agin popey ?
[13:57] <ikonia> why would you not use network manager though ?
[13:57] <popey> ikonia: he removed it
[13:57] <popey> ikonia: which is what we're trying to fix, by getting online and reinstalling
[13:57] <ikonia> ahhh
[13:57] <XPOH> is it possible to move launcher to the right side?
[13:57] <popey> no
[13:57] <k1l_> XPOH: no
[13:58] <popey> AlexPortable: reload what? On the console I would "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"
[13:58] <AlexPortable> yes but after editting
[13:58] <AlexPortable> or does it just works out of the box?
[13:58] <popey> ah, you have made the edits AlexPortable ?
[13:58] <AlexPortable> ys
[13:58] <AlexPortable> yes*
[13:58] <anjo-aladiah> ASking other way : Ubuntu install side by side with windows will remove all partitions that already exists on hard disk ?
[13:58] <popey> AlexPortable: reboot is the quick/easy/dirty way
[13:59] <zteam> Just a quick question, how can I remove a folder with the terminal which name begins with " I know I need to escape it somehow but how?
[13:59] <popey> AlexPortable: you should then get wired network and can re-install network manager (and whetever else was removed) and then remove that stanza from the file again
[13:59] <popey> zteam: slash space
[13:59] <popey> rm "\ "
[13:59] <michele993> how to save ? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/79852
[13:59] <popey> oh, a quote.. sorry, thought you said space zteam
[13:59] <kodare_br> Hi,
[13:59] <popey> rm \"
[14:00] <AlexPortable> ok
[14:00] <popey> zteam: then press tab, and it should autocomplete
[14:01] <belgianguy> michele993: what editor is that? vi ?
[14:01] <michele993> vim
[14:01] <belgianguy> :wq!
[14:01] <belgianguy> (write and quit)
[14:01] <AlexPortable> popey: rebooted, network is still down
[14:02] <anjo-aladiah> ASking other way : Ubuntu or lubuntu install side by side with windows will remove all partitions that already exists on hard disk ?
[14:02] <popey> AlexPortable: what does ifconfig say? does it list network interface cards?
[14:02] <AlexPortable> eth0 was down, i put it up
[14:02] <popey> anjo-aladiah: depends, if you ask it to, it will.
[14:02] <AlexPortable> but no ip address from the router
[14:02] <zteam> popey, okey, then I end up with this line sudo rm -ir \"/
[14:02] <belgianguy> michele993: leave insertion mode first (escape key)
[14:02] <belgianguy> :w would be just saving
[14:02] <michele993> ok
[14:02] <popey> AlexPortable: cable is attached? ☻
[14:02] <michele993> shift+z
[14:03] <michele993> ty
[14:03] <AlexPortable> popey: yes
[14:03] <anjo-aladiah> popey: i mean when we chose the option that comes on installion, Install ubuntu paralell to windows.
[14:03] <k1l_> AlexPortable: does "cat /etc/network/interfaces" show the lines popey said?
[14:03] <AlexPortable> yes
[14:03] <AlexPortable> auto eth0
[14:03] <AlexPortable> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[14:03] <popey> and the interface name is eth0 ?
[14:03] <zteam> popey, and then executed the terminal ask me this rm: go down in folder ”"/”? n
[14:03] <popey> in ifconfig
[14:03] <AlexPortable> yes
[14:04] <popey> zteam: what's the actual full file name you're trying to remove?
[14:04] <moises> hola
[14:04] <moises> hola
[14:04] <AlexPortable> moises: hallo hoe is het?
[14:04] <xlogin> Test Message
[14:04] <AlexPortable> popey: mac address doesn't shows up in router table
[14:04] <moises> pero esto que es '
[14:04] <popey> AlexPortable: do you have mac address blocking in your router?
[14:04] <AlexPortable> moises: dat vroeg ik net aan jou
[14:04] <AlexPortable> popey: no
[14:05] <k1l_> !pt | moises
[14:05] <zteam> popey, it's name is " and it is located directly under /
[14:05] <moises> donde esta el chat en español ?
[14:05] <popey> AlexPortable: does "dmesg | grep eth0" show anything interesting ?
[14:05] <AlexPortable> moises: kijk 2 regels boven je
[14:05] <k1l_> !es | moises
[14:05] <k1l_> AlexPortable: stop that. that is not helpfull
[14:05] <popey> zteam: so ... sudo rm /\"
[14:05] <AlexPortable> k1l_: ok :(
[14:05] <zteam> popey,  I guess I could cheat by deleting from nautilus but I thought this was interestering
[14:06] <popey> zteam: mildly interesting ☻
[14:06] <AlexPortable> popey: eth0 link is not ready. eth0 link down. eth0 link is not ready. eth0 link up. eth0 link becomes ready
[14:06] <moises> adios
[14:06] <k1l_> AlexPortable: just think of everyone was making jokes when you come here to ask.
[14:06] <AlexPortable> k1l_: well he starts in his native language. I start in mine
[14:06] <AlexPortable> k1l_: If I ever start talking dutch in here, you may talk back in your native language to me :)
[14:07] <k1l_> AlexPortable: again: that is no reason to be unhelpfull. you really should know that because you come here very often to ask things
[14:07] <belgianguy> Alexandro: no need for antagonising
[14:07] <belgianguy> Alexandro: oops, was meant for AlexPortable
[14:07] <Alexandro> :-)
[14:08] <k1l_> i i bet i told you before, because you are known to do that nonsense.
[14:08] <AlexPortable> belgianguy: so you go on holiday to a foreign country and then you expect everyone to talk your language?
[14:08] <XPOH> where can i find ~/.xprofile? nothing in search
[14:08] <belgianguy> AlexPortable: that is ot
[14:08] <k1l_> !guidelines > AlexPortable
[14:08] <popey> AlexPortable: so sudo dhclient eth0... doesn't work?
[14:08] <zteam> popey, that line doesn't seem to work correctly sudo rm -ri  /\"
[14:08] <zteam> rm: go down to folder ”/"”? y
[14:08] <zteam> rm: go down to folder ”/"/media”? n
[14:09] <popey> zteam: oh, it's a folder, not a file?
[14:09] <zteam> popey, I added -i to rm as I always does
[14:09] <zteam> popey, correctly
[14:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> hello?
[14:10] <belgianguy> GuyThatNeedsHelp: hi
[14:10] <zteam> popey, I know i'm supposed to escape it somehow, but I really don't get how....
[14:10] <martyj-o> I installed Ubuntu in VMware Player. It failed.
[14:10] <martyj-o> It now shows me a scary black screen with white text instead of the expected desktop.
[14:10] <martyj-o> How do I make it start?
[14:11] <popey> zteam: but it's a folder, this /" file ?
[14:11] <martyj-o> Last thing it said was something about "WRITE SAME failed".
[14:11] <popey> zteam: the fact it says go down to folder /"  implies it's a folder not a file.
[14:12] <zteam> popey, it is a folder yes, not a file
[14:12] <popey> zteam: and you want to remove the whole folder and all inside?
[14:12] <belgianguy> rm -rf ?
[14:12] <popey> indeed
[14:12] <martyj-o> How do I make Ubuntu start the GUI?
[14:12] <popey> zteam: rm -rf /\"
[14:12] <popey> that'll do it
[14:12] <zteam> popey, exactly
[14:12] <kodare_br> o.O
[14:12] <k1l_> martyj-o: "sudo service lightdm start"
[14:12] <popey> (with sudo)
[14:13] <martyj-o> That's far longer than "start x" which I remember from the early 2000s.
[14:13] <belgianguy> you can make aliases
[14:13] <Hulio> sup man
[14:13] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ive reinstalled ubuntu on my computer and i cant download xchat, adobe-flashplugin and i cant update firefox tried to uninstall firefox and reinstall it but it stays on 28.0
[14:13] <belgianguy> and startx is something else IIRC
[14:13] <popey> you can do "sudo start lightdm" too
[14:13] <bencc> how can I find how much memory an app requires when running?
[14:13] <popey> you don't need the "service" bit
[14:13] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: define "can't download"
[14:13] <martyj-o> Something must be horribly wrong.
[14:13] <belgianguy> bencc: htop
[14:13] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what are you doing and what is the problem/error
[14:14] <bencc> thanks
[14:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> the distro i installed was 13.04 and i updated the distro all the way to 14.04
[14:14] <martyj-o> It has stopped at "Prompt greeter with 1 message".
[14:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> xchat
[14:14] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what are you doing and what is the problem/error
[14:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> when i search for it in unity i cant find it
[14:14] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: how did you install it
[14:14] <zteam> popey, umm.... not to be rude or something but wasn't that the exact line we just tried before?
[14:14] <popey> no
[14:14] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: how do you want to update that programs?
[14:14] <popey> we added rf
[14:14] <XPOH> how can i set 1920x1080 default an only resolution?
[14:15] <moises> no encuentro el chat
[14:15] <martyj-o> Sigh.
[14:15] <ikonia> !es | moises
[14:15] <popey> zteam: sudo rm -rf /\", previously I said sudo rm /\" because I didn't realise it was a folder
[14:15] <martyj-o> I just wanted to test if my program really does work on Linux.
[14:15] <martyj-o> But I can't even get a god damn Linux desktop up and running.
[14:15] <k1l_> martyj-o: what ubuntu is that?
[14:15] <belgianguy> zteam: or give us a screenshot or ls -al output
[14:15] <flux242> is there a ubuntu touch channel?
[14:15] <martyj-o> k1l_: Latest, downloaded yesterday.
[14:15] <belgianguy> to remove all doubt
[14:15] <popey> flux242: yes, #ubuntu-touch
[14:15] <k1l_> martyj-o: installed in vm or native?
[14:15] <popey> martyj-o: ranting at us volunteers won't help that.
[14:15] <flux242> ok
[14:15] <martyj-o> ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:15] <martyj-o> VM.
[14:16] <popey> martyj-o: virtualbox? vmware?
[14:16] <martyj-o> Tried both VirtualBox and VMware Player, and also tried Linux Mint which gave black screens.
[14:16] <k1l_> martyj-o: what did you do before?
[14:16] <martyj-o> (Windows is VMed perfectly.)
[14:16] <popey> martyj-o: enable 3d acceleration in virtualbox
[14:16] <martyj-o> k1l_: This is a clean VM.
[14:16] <martyj-o> Hmm...
[14:16] <popey> martyj-o: and then after you get the GUI, you may need to install the virtualbox extensions
[14:17] <popey> martyj-o: Ubuntu default desktop needs the 3d bit turned on in vbox
[14:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ok an example is when i look up adobe flash plugin on ubuntu software center instead of it saying remove or install it says "Available from the "mutiverse" souce" and the button says use this source
[14:17] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: stop
[14:17] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: answer the quetions you are asked
[14:17] <XPOH> as i know, VMware detects ubuntu and sets optimal settings itself
[14:17] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: how did you install xchat
[14:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i got xchat to work now installed from the software center
[14:18] <martyj-o> Yes. VMware Player said it had enabled "easy install mode", and I expected it to go without any issues, but instead, I get nonsensical half-errors and nothing happens.
[14:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> had to install xChat-GNOME IRC Chat to connect here
[14:18] <martyj-o> And "accelerate graphics blabla" is checked in VMware Player.
[14:18] <zteam> popey, belgianguy http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025804/
[14:18] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: that seems unlikley as you joined this hcannel complaining it wans't working
[14:18] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: :/ dont use the -gnome one. that is a cut off version
[14:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> but before xchat had the same issue it said use this source
[14:19] <popey> zteam: yes, thats working
[14:19] <zteam> popey, my system language is swedish but....
[14:19] <popey> zteam: you added -i, though which is why it's prompting
[14:19] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> it may be a cut off version but it was the only way i could connect here before
[14:19] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: please show the output in a pastebin "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:19] <belgianguy> zteam: so was the folder now deleted?
[14:19] <XPOH> martyj-o: may be you should try to update display driver in windows?
[14:20] <zteam> popey, , yes, but it asks me if I want it to go down to /media and I don't want thing to get deleted there
[14:20] <martyj-o> It's 1 week old... but there *is* actually an NVidia update that I've been putting off for a few days (because it's so damn annoying to install it and requires tons of manual steps).
[14:20] <martyj-o> I'll try that.
[14:20] <popey> zteam: no it isnt
[14:20] <moises> no funka
[14:20] <popey> zteam: it's asking about "/media, not /media, note the quote
[14:20] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025842/
[14:20] <popey> zteam: sorry, it's asking about /"/media, not /media
[14:21] <popey> zteam: you have a "media" folder inside your '/"' folder. It's working correctly
[14:21] <belgianguy> zteam: can we see the ls output?
[14:21] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: did you change that manually?
[14:21] <popey> zteam: asking you if you want to remove the contents of /", one by one, because you added -i
[14:21] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ no i just installed ubuntu 14.04
[14:21] <martyj-o> If this is what solves the problem, I'll be genuinely baffled.
[14:21] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: that is a lie!
[14:22] <martyj-o> It will throw everything I thought I knew about computers out the window.
[14:22] <matthias_> hi, where can i see the command for the screensaver?
[14:22] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ on my disk it has ubuntu 13.04 and i just upgraded the distro
[14:22] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ok, if you want to get help in here dont tell stories. you did not install 14.04 since the file points out it was installed as a 13.04.
[14:22] <bencc> can I ask htop to show mem in MB instead of %?
[14:22] <zteam> popey, yes, sorry my misstake  I missreeaded the .media as media, sorry :-)
[14:22] <popey> zteam: np, it's not easy to spot!
[14:22] <martyj-o> Also, NVidia has the most idiotic, user-hostile driver update process in the non-FOSS world.
[14:22] <matthias_> i got the remoteapps to work and i'm now planning to modify the screensave authentication, so that i don't have my problem anymore
[14:23] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: and that config file is messed up. so i bet you did changes there manually.
[14:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ but before i upgraded two times i tried to find some command that would take me straight into 14.04
[14:23] <martyj-o> Click... click... wait... click... wait... click...
[14:23] <martyj-o> It should be one single click. Not a million clicks and waiting in between.
[14:24] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ on unity top right corner i clicked on about this computer and it says im on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[14:24] <zteam> popey, and the reason I always add -i before is to avoid typos with rm :)
[14:24] <popey> wise
[14:24] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: yes you are on 14.04
[14:24] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: but its not a "just installed ubuntu 14.04"
[14:25] <cercinus> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMWWMNl'..cWNo;';KMMMMMMMMMMMM
[14:25] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ is it easy to fix the config file? or do i have to reinstall
[14:25] <cercinus> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMWx:'..:......:......0NKXMMMMMMMM
[14:25] <cercinus> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMX0K,.......................,KMMMMMM
[14:25] <cercinus> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMX:............................xMMMMMM
[14:25] <cercinus> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNoc,............................:WMMMMMM
[14:25] <cercinus> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMl..............................'dddxNMMM
[14:25] <unopaste> cercinus you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:25] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: so if you want to get help in here dont make up things. tell the truth and people will help. if you tell only stories people will loose motivation to help you
[14:25] <simo_> hi
[14:25] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i just did install ubuntu lastnight?
[14:25] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> installed skype and vim
[14:26] <XPOH> where ~/.xprofile located?
[14:26] <simo_> it's my 1st tie in chat
[14:26] <simo_> how works?
[14:26] <XPOH> can't find it
[14:26] <compdoc> XPOH, ~ is your home directory. sounds like you done have that file
[14:26] <compdoc> dont
[14:26] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and apache server k1l_ what do you mean i didnt just install it?
[14:27] <XPOH> i was told to edit this file if i want to set 1920 as my default resolution
[14:28] <XPOH> may be a have to create it ?
[14:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> brb switching to xchat
[14:28] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: open a terminal and type: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  then remove the "#" at the beginning of the following lines: 6,11,17,19,27,29,37,42,44,51,52,56
[14:28] <belgianguy> XPOH what graphics driver are you running? they might have a tool for it as well
[14:28] <k1l_> ....
[14:28] <belgianguy> or override the settings
[14:29] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: open a terminal and type: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  then remove the "#" at the beginning of the following lines: 6,11,17,19,27,29,37,42,44,51,52,56. then remove line 57 totally. then press ctrl+o to save, and ctrl+x to exit.
[14:29] <XPOH> belgianguy i have dusty-old radeon 4850, so only free amd driver is available for my card
[14:30] <XPOH> belgianguy, afaik it goes with ubuntu install natively
[14:30] <compdoc> XPOH, files that start with a period are hidden files. did you know that?
[14:30] <zteam> popey, thanks for all your help
[14:30] <belgianguy> XPOH: that's fine, from the latest tests I've seen the open driver can rival catalyst is some instances, but AFAIK there is a Screen tool GUI in Ubuntu
[14:30] <XPOH> yes, i pressed ctrl+h
[14:31] <belgianguy> XPOH: in my 14.10 when I search in Dash, there's a tool called "Screens"
[14:32] <XPOH> belgianguy, if you are talking about display in system settings panel, it's my pain in da ass
[14:32] <belgianguy> (I just typed "resolution" in the Dash)
[14:32] <belgianguy> XPOH: oh, what is the error then?
[14:33] <XPOH> a heve to press several times on "detect display" to get proper resolution
[14:33] <belgianguy> because indeed that's indeed what I'm using
[14:34] <XPOH> belgianguy, error is, that ubuntu always tries to detect my display, and sets 1024 res
[14:34] <belgianguy> XPOH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[14:34] <belgianguy> what does xrandr say?
[14:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ ok i did it
[14:35] <XPOH> belgianguy, Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
[14:35] <XPOH> DVI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[14:35] <belgianguy> and then maybe edit xorg.conf
[14:35] <belgianguy> but be careful, breaking GUI related stuff is the worst
[14:35] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in terminal and show all output in pastebin
[14:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ what should i do now? reboot?
[14:36] <matthias_> hello, is there a program for ubuntu  which i start and it asks me for a password and locks the screen with it?
[14:36] <XPOH> a have already done that, but no success-automatic display detection still sets it to 1024
[14:36] <belgianguy> matthias_: Ctrl + Alt + L ?
[14:37] <belgianguy> XPOH: ah I see, so when you reboot, it sets it wrong again?
[14:37] <matthias_> belgianguy: i need a password which is independent from the current users password
[14:39] <XPOH> belgianguy, not only when reboot. it sets it, when i even open system settings panel
[14:39] <belgianguy> matthias_: Can you explain further?
[14:39] <XPOH> the only way, i found googling, is xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[14:39] <XPOH> xrandr --addmode DVI-0 1920x1080_60.00
[14:39] <XPOH> xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1920x1080_60.00
[14:39] <XPOH> but it works till next reboot
[14:40] <belgianguy> XPOH: and can't you force those parameters on boot?
[14:40] <XPOH> i'd like to, thats why i need ~/.xprofile )
[14:41] <XPOH> or maybe there is other way?
[14:41] <martyj-o> Well, can you guess what?
[14:41] <martyj-o> The stupid GPU driver update to the host OS actually solved it.
[14:41] <matthias_> belgianguy: i have a ltsp fat client install and at the moment the look screen starts after 5 minutes. but when the user types in the password it is invalid, because it is trying to login locally not on the server
[14:41] <martyj-o> So now I have no idea how computers work.
[14:41] <XPOH> im total noob
[14:41] <belgianguy> XPOH: ~/.xprofile
[14:42] <belgianguy> XPOH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Xrandr_Graphical_Front_End_GUI
[14:42] <RickyB98> hello :-) how do i modify locales permanently?
[14:43] <belgianguy> XPOH: Setting xrandr commands in .xprofile segment
[14:43] <XPOH> belgianguy, thanks! i'll try that link
[14:43] <matthias_> belgianguy: it always says password invalid, but the password is right
[14:45] <ubuntuaddicted> for some reason a user i created can't use the screen command. it returns cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/19' - please check   i view /dev/pts/ and sure enough, it's owned by root:root, is this normal
[14:46] <martyj-o> Did I accidentally download a 15 year old version of Ubuntu? There is a floppy disk icon in the GUI, right on the first screen...
[14:46] <XPOH> martyj-o, so driver update worked?
[14:46] <martyj-o> XPOH: Yes.
[14:46] <martyj-o> XPOH: At least for getting the thing to install and show a GUI.
[14:46] <XPOH> windows is such a windows
[14:46] <martyj-o> What gives with the floppy disk icon?
[14:47] <martyj-o> Also, I tried right-clicking a dir but found no "open terminal here".
[14:47] <martyj-o> In fact, no sign of a terminal?
[14:47] <belgianguy> matthias_: I still can't follow, sorry, little experience with LTSP
[14:48] <rainbowwarrior> hi I am running Ubuntu 14.10 and I was wondering how do I install the USB Driver for a 4 channel USB & SD DVR please ?
[14:48] <XPOH> btw, why ubuntu cant mount ntfs volumes?
[14:48] <belgianguy> but does it relate to the problem of the password screen?
[14:48] <XPOH> Unable to access error
[14:48] <martyj-o> Does anyone see my messages?
[14:48] <belgianguy> XPOH: it can
[14:48] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: it depends, does the device have linux support ?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> martyj-o, yes
[14:48] <martyj-o> Can you answer them?
[14:49] <matthias_> belgianguy: yes
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !patience | martyj-o,
[14:49] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : I use to have it working on OpenSusE before so it must have linux support
[14:49] <vijai> Anybody knows why my laptop shows no nvidia driver in additional driver settings?
[14:49] <XPOH> Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/ika/STUFF: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sdb1" "/media/ika/STUFF"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[14:49] <XPOH> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[14:49] <XPOH> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not permitted
[14:49] <XPOH> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[14:49] <XPOH> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[14:49] <XPOH> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[14:49] <unopaste> XPOH you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:50] <belgianguy> matthias_: maybe my hangover is messing with me, but could you explain again what the problem was?
[14:50] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: ok, so you need to find out what kernel module it needs, then find out if thats in the kernel you are using or provided from an external resource
[14:50] <k1l_> XPOH: did you even read the error message? that would have answered your questions
[14:50] <cfhowlett> XPOH, the error and the cure are both stated clearly.
[14:50] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : ok thank you :)
[14:50] <martyj-o> I right-click a binary and select "run". I double-click it. Nothing happens. No error message. Nothing.
[14:50] <introom> hi
[14:50]  * martyj-o is frustrated.
[14:51] <introom> is there any package for the kernel api, aka, this page:https://www.kernel.org/doc/htmldocs/kernel-api/
[14:51] <introom> ?
[14:51] <XPOH> k1l, yes, i did, and it scared me )
[14:51] <Luyin> martyj-o: are you using the standard ubuntu desktop (unity)? if so, the standard file manager doesn't include the "open in terminal"-option anymore. you can add it, though (google)
[14:51] <k1l_> XPOH: you need to turn off the "fast boot" option in windows. that leaves the partition in a state that is not safe to be mounted.
[14:51] <matthias_> belgianguy: I've installed the mate desktop for my ubuntu fat clients. When the screensaver gets activated after 5 minutes the user has to type in his password to unlock the screen. my problem is that the password is always invalid. As i undestood: the client tries to login locally not on the server and thats why the password seems wrong
[14:52] <matthias_> belgianguy: so i thought that \
[14:52] <vijai> seems like my qustion is over looked. Anyway, here it is again: Anybody knows why my laptop shows no nvidia driver in additional driver settings?
[14:52] <XPOH> k1l, and can i somehow override this restriction, without turning of fastboot in windows?
[14:52] <XPOH> don't even know what is it
[14:53] <k1l_> XPOH: you can run fsck and hope that no data will be lost.
[14:53] <matthias_> belgianguy: it would be the easiest way to start the screensaver with a predifinied password, which is also used to unlock the screen
[14:53] <k1l_> XPOH: but i do strongly recommend to disable that option in windows.
[14:53] <cfhowlett> XPOH, overriding a safety feature that you don
[14:53] <XPOH> ok, thanks
[14:53] <cfhowlett> don't even understand?  unwise.
[14:54] <XPOH> didn't know abot this function in windows
[14:54] <cfhowlett> XPOH, ask ##windows
[14:54] <vijai> anybody?
[14:55] <belgianguy> matthias_: so you want a screensaver that is not tied to the user?
[14:55] <k1l_> XPOH: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[14:55] <belgianguy> but uses a custom parameter (password when started?)
[14:55] <matthias_> belgianguy: yes right
[14:56] <k1l_> vijai: what does "lspci" give you? please in a pastebin
[14:56] <XPOH> thank you, guys!
[14:56] <spoown> Hello, does anybody have an idea how can I increase the usable disk space on a partition ? my disk is a 1To , but creating a partition, only allow me to use 917 Gb.... ?
[14:56] <XPOH> gpart?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> spoown, normal.
[14:56] <Naphatul> why does apt-get build-dep wine tell me it can't find the source packages?
[14:57] <vijai> K1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9026368/
[14:57] <spoown> cfhowlett, I already did try to minimize the superblock usage, but does not change actuaally...
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Naphatul, enable source in your repos???
[14:57] <belgianguy> matthias_: would it be more ideal if the login screen verified against the server rather than locally?
[14:57] <Naphatul> cfhowlett, i did
[14:57] <k1l_> vijai: install nvidia-prime if that is a optimus card setup
[14:58] <vijai> K1l_: I guess it is optimus card. Its 820m. Which switches between iGPU and dedicated depending on the application
[14:58] <matthias_> belgianguy: if this verification is possible it is even better. So the lockscreen verifies the entered password with the current user session password
[14:59] <spoown> cfhowlett, any idea, how can I get more usable space on the disk ?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> spoown, no idea. sorry.
[14:59] <ubuntuaddicted> is it a security risk to add a user to the tty group?
[15:00] <belgianguy> matthias_: I don't know if that is possible, but that would be the most elegant and transparent to the user and sysadmin :)
[15:00] <Naphatul> spoown, that's mostly due to data representation
[15:00] <Naphatul> your disk is more than likely that big
[15:01] <zkx> How do I compile this file? http://pastebin.com/VKxfhyL6
[15:01] <matthias_> belgianguy: yeah, catch the password verify it and the lock/unlock the screen. i don't know how to modify it, that it works
[15:02] <Naphatul> spoown, your manufacturer says 1GB=1000MB but operating systems say 1GB=1024MB
[15:02] <spoown> Naphatul, I get it that it was normal... but on big partition, it's quite a waste of space ! with xfs it's better but , if you known any way to increase the usage space, it would be great
[15:03] <vijai> K1l_: Installed nvidia-prime but is it only 144kb?
[15:04] <k1l_> vijai: install "nvidia-331" too
[15:04] <Naphatul> spoown, the rest is most likely due to journaling but it's minor, even so you'd want it on
[15:04] <Naphatul> or use a fs without journaling
[15:05] <vijai> K1l_: Thanks :)
[15:05] <k1l_> after that reboot
[15:05] <vijai> Btw, know how to install drivers for my trackpad?
[15:05] <Naphatul> ok so what source repo specifically do i need for wine?
[15:05] <vijai> My laptop is asus x550ld
[15:06] <spoown> Naphatul, oh great idea, did forget that ! let's see what it will make whithout it !
[15:06] <Naphatul> it says it's from universe but i have sources enabled for that
[15:06] <vijai> my model seem to be having this issue and now I'm emulating it as a generic ps2 mouse
[15:07] <vijai> rebooting. will be back after reboot
[15:08] <belgianguy> matthias_: Could LDAP be the solution here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[15:08] <Naphatul> can someone run "apt-get -s build-dep wine" and paste me the output if it's not "unable to find source package" ?
[15:08] <matthias_> belgianguy: maybe, i don't know how to set it up
[15:09] <Naphatul> prefferably in a pastebin it could be long
[15:09] <siva4080> Is there any strong alternative to md5sum to check whether a file is purposefully tampered or damaged in electronic transfer?
[15:09] <belgianguy> matthias_: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-a-basic-ldap-server-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps
[15:09] <Naphatul> siva4080, sha1sum
[15:10] <smacktalk> Build-Depends dependency for wine cannot be satisfied because candidate version of package libfreetype6-dev can't satisfy version requirements
[15:11] <ubuntuaddicted> so does xubuntu 14.04.1 use init scripts or upstart. i'd like to know what i'm talking about
[15:11] <cfhowlett> Naphatul, http://fpaste.org/151060/14160642/
[15:11] <Naphatul> ubuntuaddicted, upstart but it supports legacy sysvinit scripts
[15:12] <Naphatul> cfhowlett, thanks
[15:12] <ubuntuaddicted> Naphatul, ok, thank you. so are legacy sysvinit scripts the ones located within /etc/init.d/ ?
[15:12] <cfhowlett> Naphatul, happy2help
[15:13] <Naphatul> ubuntuaddicted, i thinks so but not 100%
[15:14] <matthias_> belgianguy: will it be worth to setup for 20-30 clients?
[15:14] <smacktalk> is there a way to share a drive on the network with Ubuntu...it's easy in windows
[15:15] <belgianguy> matthias_: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-authenticate-client-computers-using-ldap-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps
[15:15] <belgianguy> matthias_: it's worth investigating, and it keeps things tidy
[15:16] <belgianguy> matthias_: the managing can then happen on just one box, rather than having to hardcode something on each of them
[15:17] <belgianguy> I think its setup cost might be higher, but it'll be easier to use and handle
[15:17] <belgianguy> do you have 2 boxes laying around?
[15:17] <matthias_> belgianguy: the lockscreen thing will only have to be setup once in the chroot of the clients images.
[15:17] <matthias_> belgianguy: only one server at the moment
[15:19] <belgianguy> matthias_: I don't know how to make a lockscreen that does that, something that goes full screen and disables all input? Except for the entry in its input box?
[15:19] <Naphatul> belgianguy, ehh isn't that what all lockscreens do?
[15:20] <belgianguy> Naphatul: sure, but Ubuntu already has one
[15:20] <belgianguy> and that's causing the trouble, he can't use that one
[15:22] <Naphatul> belgianguy, welll he can always try xscreensaver ...
[15:22] <Glda19> what is the baest way to make a coppy off linuw with on the ssd 50 GB root and on a 1TB HDD 500 MB. It's for when i have problems i can put the backup ore image back
[15:22] <belgianguy> Glda19: Clonezilla -> write image?
[15:23] <Glda19> werkt da goe belgianguy
[15:23] <belgianguy> Glda19: keep it in English so everyone picks up some interesting bits
[15:23] <belgianguy> Glda19: but yeah, it works well
[15:24] <Glda19> belgianguy how to doe than
[15:24] <Naphatul> i'd use lvm and snapshots but i guess restoring that might be trickier
[15:24] <belgianguy> Glda19: I would assume you need to put a CloneZilla ISO to USB/CD and boot from it on the computer that contains the to be backed up system
[15:24] <Glda19> belgianguy is make a image of the root the onlyu thing to do
[15:25] <belgianguy> Glda19: depends on what you need and want to restore
[15:25] <Glda19> belgianguy is for when the linux will not boot ore is corrupt
[15:26] <belgianguy> Naphatul: but xscreensaver does not override the login prompt, right?
[15:26] <belgianguy> Glda19: yeah, a backup
[15:26] <Naphatul> belgianguy, what log in screen? do you want a screen locker or a display manager?
[15:26] <belgianguy> Naphatul: ask matthias_ :)
[15:27] <moises> eagopwnjfg
[15:28] <belgianguy> Glda19: there is also #ubuntu-be and ubuntu-nl, should you wish to communicate in Dutch or Flemish, or by pvt message
[15:28] <matthias_> Naphatul: i want the mate screenlock which gets activated with the screensaver
[15:30] <Naphatul> matthewvz, then install it?
[15:30] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ very big update
[15:31] <belgianguy> Glda19: and once booted into that, you can then write an image of the full HDD (maybe even partitions) to an external drive
[15:31] <belgianguy> space is cheap, and I'd rather just reload an image that I know works rather than fidgeting with excludes and then seeing I missed something critical
[15:33] <ACidRain2012> dude. where is the httpd.conf in ubuntu?
[15:33] <ACidRain2012> im struggling over here
[15:33] <martyj-o> Seriously? There is no terminal in Ubuntu?
[15:33] <cfhowlett> martyj-o, of course there's a terminal
[15:33] <martyj-o> I can't find one.
[15:34] <cfhowlett> martinh_, use the dash to search for it
[15:34] <Naphatul> belgianguy, what's there to mess with?
[15:34] <hawa> somebody please help. my broadcom wifi is not working. there is no option for enabling or disabling the wireless. i tried practically everything...
[15:34] <cfhowlett> hawa, do you have the ubuntu .iso?
[15:35] <Naphatul> ACidRain2012, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[15:35] <umib0zu> does anyone know where I should put jdk's or where they're stored after using apt-get? I want to set a JAVA_HOME environment variable but I don't know where to put this thing or where they're kept.
[15:35] <Guest56343> how to install minix 1.1 from ubuntu? So far I have downloaded floppy images
[15:36] <OerHeks> ACidRain2012,  Configurations are done in the subdirectories, sites-available, mods-available and /etc/apache2/envvars
[15:36] <belgianguy> martyj-o: Ctrl + Alt + T ?
[15:36] <ACidRain2012> apache2.conf doesnt have the LoadModules section
[15:36] <ACidRain2012> and when i try to load a module from there, it gives error
[15:37] <hawa> cfhowlett, its precise pangolin 12.04
[15:37] <ub3rl33th4x0rz0r> Top of the morning!
[15:37] <hawa> cfhowlett, i dont want to reinstall the whole OS... i have plenty of stuffs in here... and i dont have anything to back my data up...
[15:37] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ Thank you for helping me firefox updated and everything seems good thank you
[15:38] <cfhowlett> hawa, not what I asked.   do you have the USB or an ubuntu  .iso?
[15:38] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: yes you ruined your source.list that did stop your system from getting updates or installing packages.
[15:38] <OerHeks> ACidRain2012, see #4 https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/httpd.html#http-configuration
[15:38] <hawa> cfhowlett, no i dont...
[15:39] <cfhowlett> hawa, unfortunate.  you can easily enable broadcom from the .iso/usb
[15:39] <hawa> cfhowlett, so is there any other way???
[15:39] <cfhowlett> !broadcom | hawa, yep.
[15:40] <hawa> cfhowlett, i tried the ubuntu community docs. there was some problem with wl module...
[15:41] <Simonides> Hi there! Is anyone there whose Unity disappeared suddenly by using Compiz (ccsm)?
[15:41] <hawa> cfhowlett, lspci shows the bcm4313 though...
[15:41] <OerHeks> hawa what is wrong wit reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[15:41] <Glda19> what is the best wy to make a coppy of a linux system for when he don't boot any more ore is corrupted
[15:41] <belgianguy> Simonides: I use ccsm to make mine reappear when it goes away after messing with my graphics drivers
[15:42] <OerHeks> !clone | Glda19
[15:42] <OerHeks> !backup
[15:42] <cfhowlett> hawa, download the .iso.  got to /pool/main/d and sudo dpkg -i dkms         then /pool/restricted/b     sudo dpkg -i broadcom
[15:42] <belgianguy> Simonides: can you get to a terminal?
[15:42] <belgianguy> or to ccsm in general?
[15:43] <Simonides> belgianguy,  you see, i have uninstalled unity (hope forever) because of sedveral errors
[15:43] <martyj-o> Okay. Literally *NOTHING* happens when I double-click my "test" file, which is a binary with the +x flag set, and 777 chmod. What the hell?
[15:43] <hawa> cfhowlett, thanks... my download takes overnight... bt sure will try...
[15:43] <martyj-o> At first, I thought maybe it had something to do with the filename, so I renamed it "test".
[15:43] <martyj-o> Nothing happens at all.
[15:43] <cfhowlett> hawa, torrent!   not direct download
[15:43] <belgianguy> martyj-o: what do you want to do?
[15:43] <Simonides> i've tried several tricks in terminal, but I gave up :D now I'm using new GNOME
[15:43] <martyj-o> belgianguy: Run the executable.
[15:44] <martyj-o> (Duh!)
[15:44] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: when there is no graphical output, there is nothin to see
[15:44] <hawa> cfhowlett, its 40kbps...yep, my internet speed... anyway... thanks for the help...
[15:44] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: run it in the terminal ;)
[15:44] <martyj-o> There is graphical output. It's a GUI program.
[15:44] <OerHeks> martyj-o, give more details, what binairy, what ubuntu, 386 or 64 bit?
[15:44] <belgianguy> martyj-o: well if it was so Duh you wouldn't be here now...
[15:44] <Gregorian_1TB> stiil, terminal gives you potential errors
[15:44] <martyj-o> When I run it in the terminal, as ./test, it says "No such file or directory"
[15:44] <cfhowlett> attitude people!
[15:44] <Gregorian_1TB> *still
[15:44]  * Gregorian_1TB sighs
[15:45] <martyj-o> OerHeks: 32-bit. I guess my Ubuntu is 64-bit. But then it should still show an error of some sort.
[15:45] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: do a 'pwd' in the terminal
[15:45] <oniongirl> Hello everyone. I got a question. Is there a program where I can see what is taking up my hard disk space and where? Sort of like DiskDaisy for Mac Os X?
[15:45] <dale> comment on what is slow in 14.04 LTS, on my system, SOftware Center, software search, update ... I am using a 5 year or so old emachines
[15:45] <belgianguy> oniongirl: baobab?
[15:45] <Gregorian_1TB> than you see where you are, I guess you did not cd'ed in the right directory
[15:45] <OerHeks> !baobab
[15:45] <k1l_> oniongirl: run "baobab"
[15:45] <T33xtr4n0> Hi!
[15:45] <oniongirl> cool thank you!
[15:46] <Simonides> belgianguy: I've asked just for sure ;)
[15:46] <cfhowlett> oniongirl, du -a in a terminal but you might pipe the output to a text file
[15:46] <belgianguy> Simonides: but GNOME does not have Unity, so I don't get the question
[15:47] <Glda19> so i can't use clonzilla to make a image of the root
[15:47] <martyj-o> Okay. Even with 64-bit version, nothing happens.
[15:47] <martyj-o> Trying what Gregorian_1TB said now.
[15:47] <belgianguy> martyj-o: what kind of binary is it?
[15:47] <k1l_> Simonides: what is your real issue then?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> dale, did you localize your mirrors?  that's helps quite a bit
[15:48] <Simonides> belgianguy: none, I've just asked if anyone has such a problem with it
[15:48] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: you could also move the file to your home directory if it somewhere deep in the directory tree
[15:48] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: /home/a/Desktop/Testapp_0.01_Linux_32-bit
[15:48] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: ok, now do a ls -l test
[15:48] <belgianguy> Simonides: it's become a ritual to break compiz when updating my graphics drivers
[15:48] <martyj-o> belgianguy: It's... a binary. Maybe incorrectly created.
[15:48] <martyj-o> But even if so, it should give some sort of message.
[15:49] <martyj-o> Like, "this is not a correct Linux executable".
[15:49] <oniongirl> Ok, guys I have another question. I have an external HD that I was using w/ Mac Os X and I can only access as Read Only. It was formated with Mac OS x format but I turned off journalizing Any idea how I can make it read/write?
[15:49] <OerHeks> !hfs+
[15:49] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: -rwxrwxrwx 1 a a 80305617 Nov 15 06:06 test
[15:49] <Simonides> belgianguy: but, when I would like to revert to unity, the only solution could be to reinstall graphic drivers (finally, that's my issue)
[15:49] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: what binary is this, where is it from ?
[15:50] <martyj-o> I made it. Probably incorrectly.
[15:50] <martyj-o> It's for my own software.
[15:50] <OerHeks> oniongirl, you don't want that, turning off journaling, if you want to use it on mac again
[15:50] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: how did you made it ?
[15:50] <martyj-o> Will have to go back to step 1.
[15:50] <Naphatul> martyj-o, run "file pathtobinaryhere"
[15:50] <k1l_> Simonides: again: what is your real issue? you mix a lot of things here. talking about ccsm, gnome, video drivers....
[15:50] <Gregorian_1TB> and pls post the output of 'ls -l test'
[15:50] <belgianguy> Simonides: or pass some time on Cinnamon, but ccsm is useful, you have to enable the Unity plugin on the left
[15:50] <belgianguy> or it will not work
[15:51] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: With this command in a Windows batch file: copy /b "%dirforfiles%\nw"+data.nw %finalname%
[15:51] <martyj-o> I guess that only works for Windows EXEs.
[15:51] <martyj-o> I assumed it was the same on Linux because it's just binary data.
[15:51] <martyj-o> And the "nw" file is made for Linux (not by me).
[15:51] <cfhowlett> martyj-o, nope
[15:51] <oniongirl> OerHeks,  I dont plan on using it with OS X again. I've sold my Macbook and dont see a new one anytime in the near futured.
[15:51] <Gregorian_1TB> uh, noo..ya do the file commannd Naphatul recommended
[15:52] <martyj-o> "test: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24..."
[15:52] <martyj-o> That's the output of Naphatul's command.
[15:52] <OerHeks> oniongirl, oke, just warned you before you run in trouble, see ubottu's url https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[15:53] <Gregorian_1TB> ok, and when you run it with ./test ?
[15:53] <Naphatul> martyj-o, did you set it to executable first before trying to run it?
[15:53] <belgianguy> oniongirl: http://www.tuxtrix.com/2014/03/accessing-hfs-partition-from-linux-in.html
[15:54] <belgianguy> Naphatul: he said something about chmod +x and 777
[15:54] <Gregorian_1TB> Naphatul: still waitin for the ls -l output :/
[15:55] <Simonides> belgianguy: ok, from the beginning: i've played a little with ccsm, disabled composite, and then unity has passed out. I've entered to tty and enabled ccsm again and then I checked 'unity plugin', but this haven't bring up the unity (got just blank wallpaper). Ive tried almost everything and finally I  deleted unity
[15:55] <belgianguy> oniongirl: that link says you can do a drive check and it will be able to be mounted as r/w
[15:55] <HewloThere> What is the correct command to zip a folder recursively with better compress?
[15:55] <k1l_> Simonides: ok, so you ruined unity while playing with ccsm.
[15:55] <oniongirl> belgianguy,  I am looking at it now thanks!
[15:55] <Naphatul> well if it's an executable with the executable bit set, my next guess would be to try and debug your program, i don't know what it's supposed to do and it might not produce any output
[15:55] <Simonides> belgianguy: yeah
[15:55] <cfhowlett> Simonides, sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde.  logout/choose a different desktop environment/login.  no unity in use.
[15:56] <cinnamonrollz> Can anyone suggest a nice vps?
[15:56] <belgianguy> Simonides: well, purge unity and ubuntu-desktop and reinstall them
[15:56] <HewloThere> cinnamonrollz: Digital Ocean.
[15:56] <belgianguy> What cfhowlett said, but I quite like Cinnamon too
[15:56] <cinnamonrollz> How do they handle take down requests?
[15:56] <OerHeks> cinnamonrollz, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only, join #linux or #ubuntu-offtopic maybe
[15:57] <Simonides> belgianguy: ok. But if I would revert to unity, i must do apt-get (unity? or somewhat) and then also choose it on logon screen, right? (im linux noob, sorry)
[15:58] <cinnamonrollz> OerHeks #linux is invite only
[15:58] <OerHeks> !register
[15:58] <cfhowlett> Simonides, you can choose any installed desktop environment you like.
[15:58] <k1l_> cinnamonrollz: ##linux
[15:59] <cfhowlett> cinnamonrollz, ##linux is open
[15:59] <k1l_> Simonides: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[15:59] <cinnamonrollz> youve got to apply for voice
[15:59] <Simonides> belgianguy: I thought bout that, thx
[16:00] <Simonides> k1l_: thanks, I'll check it out
[16:00] <k1l_> Simonides: in terminal: "rm ~/.compiz-1 ~/.config/compiz-1"
[16:00] <k1l_> Simonides: and then "gsettings reset-recursively org.compiz" and "setsid unity"
[16:01] <Simonides> k1l_: i did it, but this won't help (after rebooting) - still without unity
[16:01] <Simonides> k1l_: Ok, i'll do it now
[16:01] <k1l_> install the package, then do what i told. reboot and you should choose unity/ubuntu on login screen
[16:02] <k1l_> Simonides: if that doesnt help try "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/"
[16:02] <Naphatul> cinnamonrollz, you have to be registered with freenode
[16:02] <Simonides> k1l_: damn, this worked! shit! thanks!
[16:02] <Naphatul> they don't even require an email from what i remember
[16:03] <cinnamonrollz> I was registered but apparently my password to identify my nick magically changed
[16:03] <k1l_> Simonides: and for the future: if it says: "only use when advanced user" its there for a reason. and as a beginner you can ruin your desktop, like you did.
[16:03] <Simonides> k1l_ and belgianguy: thanks a lot!!
[16:03] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: I already showed the output from the ls -l...
[16:03] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: And from ./test
[16:03] <martyj-o> Naphatul: Yes...
[16:04] <martyj-o> It claims "no such file" when I ./test
[16:04] <Simonides> k1l_: i know, i ve reinstalled OS's for many times. Right, thanks a lot!
[16:04] <martyj-o> And it has 777 chmod.
[16:04] <martyj-o> Extremely annoying.
[16:04] <Naphatul> are you sure you're in the same directory?
[16:05] <martyj-o> Extremely.
[16:05] <Naphatul> it would not say "no such file" if the file location you were passing is the right one
[16:05] <martyj-o> This error doesn't add up.
[16:05] <martyj-o> I know. That's why it's weird.
[16:05] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: I do not see the ls -l output
[16:05] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: -rwxrwxrwx 1 a a 80305617 Nov 15 06:06 test
[16:06] <Simonides> k1l_: only one thing: to swich to gnome again: what can I type?
[16:06] <Naphatul> martyj-o, "touch test.txt && ./test.txt && rm test.txt"
[16:06] <Naphatul> see? different error
[16:06] <martyj-o> ?
[16:06] <Simonides> k1l_: setsid gnome or what?
[16:06] <Gregorian_1TB> that is extremely wierd..
[16:06] <k1l_> Simonides: no no no
[16:06] <k1l_> Simonides: you change the desktop on the login screen
[16:07] <HewloThere> k1l_, how do I archive a folder recursively?
[16:07] <martyj-o> bash: ./test.txt: Permission denied
[16:07] <martyj-o> When running Naphatul's latest command.
[16:07] <Simonides> k1l_: aaah, alright again thanks
[16:07] <Simonides> k1l_: bye
[16:07] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: he created a dummy file 'text.txt' and showed you the output when it is not a proper executable
[16:08] <Gregorian_1TB> or in this case, without executable bit set
[16:08] <Gregorian_1TB> can you do a 'head test'  ?
[16:09] <Gregorian_1TB> it would make sense if the "no such file.." output came from the script
[16:10] <martyj-o> Outputted nonsensical stuff that messed up the terminal.
[16:10] <Naphatul> you can ptrace it
[16:10] <Gregorian_1TB> ok..
[16:10] <Naphatul> to see if it runs
[16:10] <Naphatul> and what it runs
[16:10] <Gregorian_1TB> what is standing exactly when you do ':/test'
[16:10] <Naphatul> beyond that you should go back to the source and fix it
[16:11] <Gregorian_1TB> Naphatul: I do not have ptrace available on my system
[16:11] <efgsdsdfs> text
[16:11] <efgsdsdfs> wan
[16:11] <efgsdsdfs> lan
[16:11] <martyj-o> Remember: my build.bat script is on Windows. I am running Windows on my host box and building the software for Mac, Windows and Linux. I use the command "copy /b "%dirforfiles%\nw"+data.nw %finalname%" in place of the "cat /usr/bin/nw app.nw > app" command. I believe they are identical because they just smack two binaries together.
[16:11] <martyj-o> (This works on Windows.)
[16:12] <martyj-o> Note also that the "nw" I use for the Linux port is the correct Linux one. Not the one for Windows.
[16:12] <Naphatul> well throught gdb, mostly
[16:12] <martyj-o> gdb?
[16:12] <Naphatul> martinh_, gnu debugger
[16:13] <martyj-o> I think that even if I made the binary incorrectly, it should not say that it cannot be found.
[16:13] <Naphatul> martinh_, it shouldn't that part i believe is your error
[16:13] <martyj-o> But how can it be my error? I'm not a newbie with Unix shells, so it's not some dumb error...
[16:14] <martyj-o> I've triple-checked.
[16:14] <Naphatul> does ls say the binary is in your current directory/ what "exactly" are you typing in?
[16:14] <Naphatul> martyj-o, well i've never had it tell me the file doesn't exist and it does...
[16:15] <martyj-o> Let me show you the output of my terminal. Please hold on.
[16:15] <Gregorian_1TB> is there really a 'bash: ./test: no such file or directoy output' ??
[16:15] <Naphatul> ./asdhiausdhu
[16:15] <Gregorian_1TB> ah, there you go
[16:15] <Naphatul> yes
[16:16] <gebruiker> my fonts ( while browsing ) look much better in unity than in gnome or kde or xfce
[16:16] <gebruiker> how come?
[16:16] <efgsdsdfs> exit
[16:17] <martyj-o> Here it is: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BB2uRbx2
[16:17] <Gregorian_1TB> are you kidding me?
[16:17] <martyj-o> And just to clarify: if I run simply "test" (no quotes), nothing happens at all. Nothing runs. No output at all.
[16:18] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: Not in any way, no.
[16:18] <Gregorian_1TB> there is an asterisk!
[16:18] <martyj-o> Um... so?
[16:18] <k1l_> who did name the files with a * at the end?
[16:18] <Gregorian_1TB> soo !
[16:18] <Gregorian_1TB> how did it get there..
[16:18] <Naphatul> that's hilarious
[16:18] <martyj-o> Doesn't * simply mean that it's an executable?
[16:18] <Naphatul> no
[16:18] <Gregorian_1TB> ok just try ./test\*
[16:19] <Gregorian_1TB> or better first 'mv test\* test
[16:19] <gebruiker> guys
[16:19] <gebruiker> does ubuntu come with flash installed per default?
[16:19] <Gregorian_1TB> that is indeed hilarious
[16:19] <OerHeks> what filesystem uses * lOlZ
[16:19] <k1l_> martyj-o: did you make it * at the end?
[16:19] <OerHeks> gebruiker, no
[16:19] <martyj-o> Okay. This is the worst situation in which to have a locale problem. I can't type certain chars in that VM, including *.
[16:19] <Naphatul> probably a malformed glob
[16:19] <johng> @gebrukeier: No
[16:19] <k1l_> gebruiker: no. that is forbidden with the licence from flash
[16:19] <Gregorian_1TB> lol
[16:19] <martyj-o> I did not make the files with any * in the end, no.
[16:19] <martyj-o> I didn't think that would even technically work.
[16:19] <Gregorian_1TB> but its there
[16:20] <johng> gebruiker : You have to manually install the flash ffmpeg codecs
[16:20] <Naphatul> gebruiker, you can select to install it on the install screen
[16:20] <gebruiker> k1l_, I installed latest LTS and youtube works int he browser
[16:20] <Gregorian_1TB> so there is indeed no test\*
[16:20] <martyj-o> Maybe 7-Zip added them for some reason.
[16:20] <Naphatul> martyj-o, it does work
[16:20] <Gregorian_1TB> did not knew, that '*' are allowed in *nix filenames o.O
[16:20] <k1l_> gebruiker: youtube switches to html5
[16:20] <Naphatul> maybe your script has a malformed glob
[16:20] <gebruiker> k1l_, i see
[16:20] <martyj-o> When looking at the archive in Windows, in 7-Zip, there are no asterisks at the end of the files.
[16:20] <OerHeks> gebruiker only chrome has build-in flash
[16:21] <martyj-o> I was 100% convinced that this was a visual cue in Linux and not part of the filename.
[16:21] <gebruiker> OerHeks, gotcha
[16:21] <martyj-o> How do I change the keyboard input layout?
[16:21] <martyj-o> I looked all over in the control panel a while ago.
[16:21] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: so either remove it, or just run ':/test\*'
[16:21] <Gregorian_1TB> *.
[16:21] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: I'm trying to. Can't input * char.
[16:21] <Naphatul> martyj-o, setxbkmap
[16:21] <Gregorian_1TB> ok, now you are kidding me
[16:21] <martyj-o> No. NOT kidding.
[16:22] <martyj-o> This is a VM.
[16:22] <martyj-o> Installed solely to test this.
[16:22]  * Gregorian_1TB wonders in what crappy situations people can get
[16:22] <Gregorian_1TB> no offense martyj-o
[16:22] <gebruiker> k1l_, what is different about unity ? Fonts seem to be better dispalyed whnen browsing than with xfce or gnome
[16:22] <Naphatul> setxkbmap us
[16:22] <Naphatul> or something like that
[16:23] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: You think this is bad? It's nothing. I end up in situations like this all the time.
[16:23] <k1l_> gebruiker: that is because unity cares about the looks
[16:23] <martyj-o> Naphatul: No command 'setxbkmap' found, did you mean:
[16:23] <martyj-o>  Command 'setxkbmap' from package 'x11-xkb-utils' (main)
[16:23]  * martyj-o wants to just cry
[16:24] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: oh man, on what kind of hell are you living ;]
[16:24] <martyj-o> There are no asterisks in the end of the file names when browsed even on Ubuntu.
[16:24] <martyj-o> Only in the stupid terminal.
[16:24] <Naphatul> martyj-o, oh you're running a server?
[16:25] <martyj-o> Not a server.
[16:25] <Naphatul> weird it's installed for me, guess i've installed it for something
[16:25] <Naphatul> but yeah use that or go to the settings
[16:25] <gebruiker> k1l_, please tell me more...
[16:25] <martyj-o> By the way, none of those commands with the asterisk added to the end work either.
[16:25] <Naphatul> and you can change the keyboard layout from there
[16:25] <martyj-o> All return in "no such file".
[16:25] <Naphatul> you need to escape it
[16:25] <martyj-o> (I ended up copying the text.)
[16:25] <Naphatul> to run test* you need to type ./test\*
[16:26] <OerHeks> martyj-o, please let us ask the questions, and do not give the info we want, troll
[16:26] <martyj-o> Yes, I know, Naphatul.
[16:26] <Naphatul> maybe a locale issue?
[16:26]  * OerHeks facepalms
[16:26] <martyj-o> Plonk @ OerHeks.
[16:26] <martyj-o> With or without the escaped asterisk, it returns the same command.
[16:27] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o:  just run the frickin ./test\* command
[16:27] <martyj-o> Gregorian_1TB: Isn't it clear that I've ran it several times at this point?
[16:27] <martyj-o> I keep telling you that it doesn't say anything differently.
[16:27] <Gregorian_1TB> martyj-o: you told us 30s ago you cant type an asterisk
[16:27] <martyj-o> You really don't read anything I type?
[16:27] <martyj-o> "(I ended up copying the text.)"
[16:28] <martyj-o> Copying and pasting the exact command instead of inputting it.
[16:28] <Gregorian_1TB> maybe some messed up character encoding in the terminal, sorry I am out
[16:28] <Gregorian_1TB> filenames with '*' in it, god I need a break..afk
[16:29] <martyj-o> But they don't have * in them. Only in the terminal.
[16:29] <martyj-o> It must be a visual cue of some sort.
[16:29] <martyj-o> In bash.
[16:29] <martyj-o> In the 7-Zip-packed archive (both as seen on Windows and on Linux), and in the GUI on Ubuntu, there are no asterisks.
[16:29] <martyj-o> Only in bash do those asterisks show up in the end of the file names.
[16:30] <racho> martyj-o, either you're trolling or you messed up with locales
[16:30] <Naphatul> martyj-o, what does "ldd test" say?
[16:30] <WhiteBlizzard> martyj-0 do the asterisks apear behind the filenames?
[16:30] <racho> because i just created a file with an asterisk
[16:30] <racho> and it shows up both in gui file managers and terminal
[16:31] <racho> also bash autocompletion escapes it automatically
[16:31] <martyj-o> Also, if I only do "ls" (not ls -l), even bash does not show any asterisks.
[16:31] <martyj-o> Naphatul: "not a dynamic executable"
[16:32] <WhiteBlizzard> martyj-0 do the asterisks apear behind the filenames?
[16:32] <efgsdsdfs> exit
[16:32] <martyj-o> Seriously. People have become so fucked up in the head at this point that asking any question has become impossible without hearing several idiots calling you a "troll". Who the FUCK sits and spends their days INVENTING fake computer problems?!
[16:33] <martyj-o> There are countless REAL ones to deal with 24/7.
[16:33] <Naphatul> martyj-o, is this a 32 bit system?
[16:33] <martyj-o> Naphatul: 64-bit.
[16:33] <Naphatul> what does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" say
[16:33] <k1l_> martyj-o: drop that attitude and language asap
[16:33] <martyj-o> Interestingly: "i386"
[16:34] <martyj-o> I used: ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:34] <gebruiker> so I do not have to install pepper flas plugin-nonfree if I install chrome?
[16:34] <xlogin> Test Message
[16:34] <belgianguy> gebruiker: chrome has flash built in, no need to install it again
[16:35] <Naphatul> martyj-o, well last thing i can think of is try running "apt-get install libc6:i386 libstdc++6:i386"
[16:35] <Naphatul> and whatever 32 dependencies you need
[16:35] <Naphatul> and try running it
[16:35] <Naphatul> beyond that i'm out
[16:35] <belgianguy> only if you also wish to see Flash content in  Firefox  you'd have to install it
[16:36] <Watcher_> exit
[16:36] <maira> hi
[16:36] <belgianguy> hello
[16:36] <gebruiker> belgianguy, when I apt-get install it I can still install the peperflash plugin, I thought peper flash was from google ... '
[16:37] <maira> i am using ubuntu deeper drake because hardware limitations and recently i install a wifi card with the chipset AR9727, but deeper drake doesn't recognize
[16:37] <belgianguy> gebruiker: that might very well be so, but the Google binary (google-chrome) already ciontains that
[16:37] <maira> how do i install the driver of this card for ubuntu 6 deeper drake?
[16:37] <gebruiker> belgianguy, hmm wonder why? is that package compatible with other browsers?
[16:38] <OerHeks> maira that version is long time eol
[16:39] <belgianguy> gebruiker: so just installing google chrome should do it
[16:39] <Naphatul> maira, run debian wheezy? even squeeze is supported until 2016 if you need older
[16:39] <gebruiker> belgianguy, yeah but what is the other package for?
[16:39] <belgianguy> only if you want to see Flash content outside of chrome, you'd need to install Adobe plugin
[16:40] <belgianguy> gebruiker: check on launchpad
[16:40] <OerHeks> Naphatul, 6.06 dapper drake *
[16:40] <gebruiker> belgianguy, does your flash run as smooth as on other ms windows?
[16:40] <Naphatul> OerHeks, ?
[16:40] <maira> Naphatul, mi hardware is very old and doesent suport newer versions of SO
[16:40] <johng> Guys, I was wondering whether it is possible to take a complete backup of an ubunu system?
[16:40] <Stannaz> I have an audio issue, Ubuntu 14.04, could anybody help me?
[16:41] <Naphatul> oh you mean it's years earlier
[16:41] <OerHeks> maira that version is 9 years old, those repos are long gone
[16:41] <belgianguy> gebruiker: yes it does, I stream movies in Ubuntu
[16:41] <maira> not realy
[16:41] <teward> Stannaz: just ask your actual question - explain the symptoms, what you're expecting to happen, etc.
[16:41] <Naphatul> maira, old enough that it won't debian squeeze?
[16:41] <maira> i found official repos for deeper drake on old-releases
[16:41] <gebruiker> belgianguy, you run a custom kernel?
[16:42] <Stannaz> No sound, although it does work on login, I expect it to work after login(obviously). I believe this is linked to me installing, and then removing xfce4 DE.
[16:42] <belgianguy> gebruiker: nope, just the 14.10 one
[16:42] <gebruiker> belgianguy, the ck with bfq patches?
[16:42] <gebruiker> alright
[16:42] <Stannaz> on login, I mean the ubuntu drums login sound, afterwards, nothing
[16:42] <k1l_> maira: that is not supported at all.
[16:42] <anjo-aladiah> sudo pm-hibernate work on a packard bell 64 bits console but not on the panel bar. On another hand sudo pm-hibernate dont work on a Toshiba Satelite 64 bits console nether the console nether de panel bar button. The Packard Bell behavior is similar on Button as Toshiba SAtelite on both console and panel bar button. They both were installed with same ISO. Someone know a console command to...
[16:42] <teward> maira: for all intents and purposes, dapper drake is past support and end-of-life.  old-releases are the repos as they were at EOL time - they get no security updates and such.  continuing to use dapper is going to open you to infinite security risks.
[16:42] <anjo-aladiah> 	anjo-aladiah	...solve this problem ?
[16:44] <anjo-aladiah> Iam with Lubuntu 14.10
[16:45] <Stannaz> ?
[16:45] <marlon> HOla :D
[16:45] <belgianguy> anjo-aladiah: please reformulate that in shorter questions
[16:46] <belgianguy> as that wall of text will probably not entice many readers
[16:46] <anjo-aladiah> i cant hibernat on console nether panel bar button
[16:47] <anjo-aladiah> sudo pm-hibernate work on a packard bell 64 bits console but not on the panel bar. lubuntu 14.10
[16:47] <anjo-aladiah> sudo pm-hibernate dont work on a Toshiba Satelite 64 bits console nether the console nether de panel bar button.
[16:47] <damidam> hey guys, does anyone know a ppa for the new nvidia drivers? http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/79720/en-us
[16:48] <Stannaz> I have an audio issue, Ubuntu 14.04. No sound, although it does work on login, I expect it to work after login(obviously). I believe this is linked to me installing, and then removing xfce4 DE.
[16:48] <anjo-aladiah> Stannas that problem happens to me .
[16:48] <anjo-aladiah> Stannaz
[16:48] <Stannaz> ?
[16:48] <anjo-aladiah> DO you have sound icon ?
[16:48] <Stannaz> Did you manage to fix it?
[16:48] <anjo-aladiah> i had no sound icon and no sound
[16:49] <Stannaz> Well, my sound indicator often disappears but adding and removing it in settings fixes it
[16:49] <Stannaz> My main issue is no sound, and no sound devices showing
[16:49] <anjo-aladiah> i did sudo apt-get install indicator-volume
[16:49] <anjo-aladiah> and sudo reboot
[16:50] <Stannaz> do you mean indicator-sound?
[16:50] <Stannaz> or sound-indicator?
[16:50] <k1l_> damidam: why do you need the new drivers? what is with the drivers ubuntu ships?
[16:50] <anjo-aladiah> yes that s it, sorry
[16:50] <Stannaz> but the issue is not in regards to the icon, it's to do with there being no sound as a whole
[16:50] <damidam> k1l_ heroes of the storm is running badly for me in wine
[16:50] <damidam> i'm hopeing to get some fps out of the new drivers
[16:51] <johng> Guys, I was wondering whether it is possible to take a complete backup of an ubunu system?
[16:51] <k1l_> damidam: that is in most cases a wine issue. and not a video driver issue
[16:51] <marlon> HOla
[16:51] <marlon> I9M BILINGUE
[16:51] <Stannaz> @johng have you tried googling?
[16:51] <marlon> hi
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> johng: couple ways, there's dd and other tools, depending on what you need
[16:51] <marlon> you mother
[16:51] <marlon> your mother
[16:51] <Bantu____> alisamixer<----- sound cmd
[16:51] <johng> What i was thinking about was something along the lines of a nandroid backup that exists in android
[16:51] <anjo-aladiah> sudo apt-get install indicator-sound  Stannaz:
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> !backup | johng
[16:51] <johng> Was wondering whether something like that was possible
[16:52] <damidam> k1l_ so you would advise against installing them ?
[16:52] <johng> SE didn;t give me any such answers .
[16:52] <k1l_> damidam: yes.
[16:52] <Stannaz> anjo, that's just the indicatoir, I already tried reinstalling that and it didn't help
[16:52] <Bantu____> alsamixer ...
[16:52] <anjo-aladiah> Someone help me to make my Toshiba SAtelite hibernate as weel on console or panel bar button ?
[16:52] <k1l_> damidam: you could install them but in most times there goes something wrong and we cant do anything about it.
[16:52] <damidam> "most" ?
[16:53] <k1l_> damidam: user coming in here having issues after upgrades or kernel updates or just having issue tend to use a PPA or the sites driver.
[16:53] <Ardent> Hello
[16:53] <johng> just as a nandroid backup restores ubuntu back to its initial config with all its programs, is there something similar for ubuntu?
[16:54] <k1l_> johng: use dd to make a full backup
[16:54] <Stannaz> Fixed my problem! Removing the pulseaudio config (so it was regenned) sorted it.
[16:54] <johng> k1l_, thanks i'll look it up.
[16:55] <k1l_> johng: but the clever way is: backup your personal data and the config files. the whole system could be reinstalled very quick
[16:55] <Ardent> I have a problem. In TightVNC i try running an application and my VNC session just crashes.
[16:55] <k1l_> johng: but that is all explained on the backup sites the bot linked
[17:23] <Evropi> is there any way I can see most recently installed packages via command line or synaptic?
[17:24] <Evropi> if that information is recorded at all.
[17:25] <johng> Evropi, that info is available in USC.
[17:25] <johng> Under the installed tab
[17:25] <Evropi> johng: I use Kubuntu acutally...
[17:25] <Evropi> that channel is dead though
[17:26] <Evropi> it's this deb package I downloaded and installed, I want to remove it now. It doesn't come from the repos
[17:27] <johng> if you remember the prog, use "purge" to remove it
[17:28] <k1l_> Evropi: /var/log/apt gives you the history
[17:28] <Evropi> 17:27 	johng	if you remember the prog, use "purge" to remove it <-- yeah I was looking for the package name :P
[17:28] <Evropi> thanks k1l_
[17:30] <anjo-aladiah> iam with lubuntu 14.10 paralell install to windows 8.1  Now it only start with windows and menu to choose dont appear why ?
[17:31] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: did you reinstall windows or something?
[17:31] <anjo-aladiah> First i reinstall windows , then lubuntu paralell, then updates to windows . .
[17:31] <Evropi> weird k1l_, it wasn't listed in the history file for some reason, but I found it in the end by opening the deb in the wastebin
[17:31] <anjo-aladiah> then update to lubuntu and somes restarts
[17:31] <Evropi> thanks anyway, I'll keep it in mind
[17:31] <k1l_> Evropi: so you did a .deb install?
[17:32] <k1l_> !bootrepair | anjo-aladiah
[17:32] <anjo-aladiah> !bootrepair
[17:32] <Evropi> anjo-aladiah: try "sudo update-grub"
[17:32] <Evropi> oh wait you're stuck in windows
[17:32] <Evropi> nvm
[17:32] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: see the bots message
[17:33] <anjo-aladiah> Evropi: where i should typ sudo update-grub if i cant enter inside lubuntu ?
[17:33] <Evropi> anjo-aladiah: nevermind me, follow the instructions of the bot which is to check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:33] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: run grubinstall
[17:33] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: see the message from the bot!
[17:33] <anjo-aladiah> how ?
[17:34] <anjo-aladiah> ok
[17:34] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: how?
[17:34] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: did you even open the link the bot gave you?
[17:35] <anjo-aladiah> i should run grubinstall after creat a usb pen doesnit ?
[17:35] <anjo-aladiah> yes i did.
[17:35] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: no you did not! because then you did not need to ask
[17:36] <k1l_> anjo-aladiah: it is all explained in the help page to bootrepair. if you got a specific question ask it here. but dont let us just read the page for you write it here again. that is just wasting time.
[17:38] <anjo-aladiah> I think the process its to complicated for me. even reading.
[17:41] <pressure> join #history
[17:42] <Glda19> what is the best way to make a backup so that i can recover it by problems
[17:44] <Earlo> Hey, I got weird problem with Skype and Ubuntu.
[17:44] <Earlo> It happens every once a while, that my keyboard inputs get all weird in Skype, while working just normal elsewhere.
[17:45] <Earlo> I mean, it feels like one 3rd of the time the letter doesn't appear at all, another 3rd it writes "e" and for rest of the cases it works just as it should.
[17:47] <eric> when running apt-get update i have packages that are missing and cause the update to fail. The entries are not in sources.list. where are they located and how do i remove them?
[17:51] <streulma> hi, with Ubuntu I have System Temperature 90D error. Tried with thermal.nocrt=1 but no succes.
[17:52] <streulma> it's a HP notebook
[17:57] <ubuntuaddicted> trying to use mprime to check stability of my OC and for some reason the latest tar gzip doesn't log by default and i'm just trying to understand how to edit prime.txt so it does
[17:58] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone use mprime?
[17:59] <sakralwady> السلام عليكم
[17:59] <sakralwady> هل من عربي
[18:00] <k1l_> sakralwady: that is a english only channel
[18:01] <k1l_> !eg | sakralwady
[18:01] <sakralwady> hwer a found arabic channel
[18:01] <barrett__> i'm trying to make a USB flash drive of 14.04 using unetbootin (on a 12.04) machine.  unetbootin only has options that go up to 11.10live    do you think that would work for making a bootable 14.04 usb stick?
[18:01] <k1l_> #ubuntu-eg is the channel
[18:02] <sakralwady> thank you kil
[18:04] <barrett__> what is the best way to crate a 14.04 live usb from 12.04?
[18:05] <teward> barrett__: usb creator, probably
[18:05] <barrett__> what is that is that an application?
[18:05] <teward> barrett__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Ubuntu  <-- start here
[18:06] <teward> barrett__: it's an application in ubuntu, yes, you can do `sudo apt-get install usb-creator` to install it, then use it
[18:06] <barrett__> thx
[18:06] <barrett__> hrm not in my repos
[18:07] <teward> barrett__: well, it's there - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise&searchon=names&keywords=usb-creator
[18:07] <teward> barrett__: you might need to do `sudo apt-get update` first, but depending on what your error is saying... it's hard to determine the actual issue with that.
[18:09] <Guest9868>  /nick cjb99
[18:09] <streulma> is the Geforce Nvidia 840m compatible with Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:09] <maira> some one has a solution for my case??
[18:09] <maira> wireless atheros working on ubuntu 6.06
[18:10] <maira> some one found??
[18:10] <maira> I found the driver but make doesent compile
[18:10] <maira> i got an error
[18:10] <ikonia> 6.06 is dead
[18:10] <Meow> !help
[18:10] <ikonia> it's not supported here any more
[18:11] <Meow> !patience
[18:11] <Meow> [help]
[18:11] <ikonia> Meow: please stop trying to mess with the bot
[18:15] <anjo-aladiah> Boot repair told me to disabled Secure boot on bios. But i cant  change this option there .
[18:15] <bekks> anjo-aladiah: Why not?
[18:15] <ubuntuaddicted> is anyone in here familar with mprime? i can't get it to log to a file using the prime.txt config file.
[18:16] <anjo-aladiah> bekks: i am not able to put the cursor in it to change. the color is different, in this parameters . . that i cant change
[18:17] <bekks> anjo-aladiah: So maybe you have to unlock your bios by entering some password of actually entering the "change" mode.
[18:17] <anjo-aladiah> the password is disabled
[18:17] <anjo-aladiah> supervisor: clear
[18:17] <anjo-aladiah> user : clear
[18:17] <anjo-aladiah> hdd : clear
[18:18] <anjo-aladiah> it must be a must doensit to boot repair work , disable this feature ?
[18:19] <bekks> anjo-aladiah: I am sorry, I did not understand your last question.
[18:20] <anjo-aladiah> boot repair gave me the? option to continue without change or disable Secure boot. Do you think i should try
[18:20] <anjo-aladiah> ?
[18:22] <anjo-aladiah> what if i change boot mode UEFI to Legacy.  . . it will work  then ?
[18:22] <anjo-aladiah> bekks:
[18:22] <bekks> anjo-aladiah: If you change from UEFI to legacy, your system will not boot anymore if you installed it in UEFI mode.
[18:22] <anjo-aladiah> thanks
[18:24] <anjo-aladiah> i will try to use the tool boot repair with out disabled Secure boot on bios. Because i dont have idea how to acess the parameters
[18:24] <anjo-aladiah> they seem to be looked
[18:26] <cassio3> anjo-aladiah
[18:26] <anjo-aladiah> tell me casssio3
[18:26] <cassio3> can we do some standard questioning here?
[18:26] <cassio3> what caused this problem?
[18:26] <cassio3> are you sure it's software, and not hardware?
[18:26] <anjo-aladiah> after some reboots of lubuntu it happens,
[18:26] <cassio3> why did the machine reboot?
[18:27] <anjo-aladiah> The hard disk should be first on boot order doesnit ? or Windows boot manager should come first ?
[18:27] <cassio3> guys, does that mean it kernel paniked?
[18:27] <cassio3> no
[18:27] <anjo-aladiah> because iam installing it fresh
[18:27] <cassio3> if you installed lubuntu
[18:27] <cassio3> it becomes the boot manager
[18:27] <cassio3> called grub I believe
[18:28] <cassio3> if you are installing fresh
[18:28] <cassio3> and want to wipe both windows, and linux
[18:28] <anjo-aladiah> iam talking about bios seto boot order
[18:28] <cassio3> install windows first
[18:28] <anjo-aladiah> that what i did
[18:28] <anjo-aladiah> then lubuntu paralell
[18:28] <cassio3> windows is working?
[18:28] <anjo-aladiah> alll was working
[18:28] <cassio3> and then what happened?
[18:28] <anjo-aladiah> yes it start windows instead lubuntu and don t give me the option
[18:28] <cassio3> things don't break on their own
[18:29] <cassio3> oh
[18:29] <cassio3> hang on
[18:29] <cassio3> I get it
[18:29] <cassio3> so you want to get back into lubuntu
[18:29] <anjo-aladiah> yes
[18:29] <anjo-aladiah> iam with a usb flash on it
[18:29] <anjo-aladiah> to try boot repair tooll
[18:29] <matthias_> how can i start xscreensaver in blank mode?
[18:29] <cassio3> just stop.
[18:29] <cassio3> wait
[18:29] <anjo-aladiah> ok
[18:30] <cassio3> the boot repair tool is the windows boot repair tool
[18:30] <cassio3> the bios order is irrelevant
[18:30] <cassio3> give me a second
[18:30] <anjo-aladiah> ok
[18:30] <cassio3> this problem is really old
[18:31] <anjo-aladiah> the windows is the 8.1
[18:31] <anjo-aladiah> and lubuntu 14.10
[18:31] <cassio3> http://askubuntu.com/questions/163601/i-installed-windows-7-after-ubuntu-how-do-i-get-the-grub-menu-back
[18:31] <theadmin> Oi.
[18:31] <theadmin> You may not even need to use boot repair
[18:31] <cassio3> theadmin, she doesn't?
[18:31] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Is Fast Startup in Windows disabled?
[18:31] <anjo-aladiah> cassio3: iam reading it
[18:32] <theadmin> If it's not, do disable it.
[18:32] <LoLoLo> Russia will fuck you
[18:32] <cassio3> one second, listen to theadmin
[18:32] <cassio3> My Linux knowledge is rudimentary and stale.
[18:32] <anjo-aladiah> where i can see that fast start up option . on BIOS ?
[18:33] <anjo-aladiah> theadmin:  that option is on bios ?
[18:33] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: No, it's in Windows.
[18:33] <anjo-aladiah> Control pannel ?
[18:33] <himansurathi> anoj-aladiah: see control panel ->power options ->disable fst start up
[18:33] <anjo-aladiah> ok i will back to windows with it to check
[18:34] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Control Panel -> Power Options -> Change what the power buttons do -> uncheck "Turn on fast startup", then shutdown your computer.
[18:34] <anjo-aladiah> ok
[18:34] <anjo-aladiah> iam doing it, its on another machinw
[18:34] <cassio3> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452071/why-disable-fast-boot-on-windows-8-when-having-dual-booting
[18:35] <cassio3> this seems to match what she's saying -- it "rebooted a few times"
[18:35] <anjo-aladiah> yesss, i hope its about this. because its a friend mine , and iam repsonsable for the instalation.
[18:35] <cassio3> this must have to do with hibernation?
[18:35] <ugb3> Hey Guyz, I’m using 14.04 LTS and my computer isn't booting anymore since i'v moved, it takes a while to "boot" and then after the logo I just get a KP with  "drm_kms_helper panic occurred switching back to text console" could anybody walk me trough troubleshooting it ?
[18:35] <theadmin> cassio3: To sum it up, "Shut down" in Windows 8 is more like "Log out all users and hibernate".
[18:35] <anjo-aladiah> yes i was trying sudo pm-hibernate
[18:36] <anjo-aladiah> also..
[18:36] <cassio3> anjo-aladiah, I always do a backup of systems before I install any operating system, or ideally touch it in any way.
[18:36] <cassio3> I backup the mbr too...
[18:36] <suik> hey guys, have a server where someone install ubuntu server, but enabled hardware virtualization  so it's only using 2 cores now. I want to make the server use all 8. Do I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[18:36] <bekks> suik: No.
[18:37] <cassio3> anjo-aladiah, I use acronis on windows, but it would be nice to have something that's dual-platform.
[18:37] <bekks> suik: And your statement doesnt make sense, since as long as you are installing on native hardware, Ubuntu will use all cores available.
[18:37] <anjo-aladiah> I cant find power options in control pannel.
[18:37] <TheMaverick`> Getting an error (/usr/bin/X not found) when running startx on a minimal install. I've done the following: "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends xserver-xorg-core-lts-trusty xinit openbox synaptic". Any ideas?
[18:37] <suik> ok
[18:38] <cassio3> does he mean software virtualization as enabled by hardware?
[18:38] <cassio3> is it running in a VM?
[18:38] <bekks> cassio3: I dont know :)
[18:38] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone else use Hardinfo? for some reason when I click on sensors it's blank but i do have lm-sensors installed
[18:38] <cassio3> I'm thinking out loud
[18:38] <theadmin> TheMaverick`: Try "xinit" instead of startx.
[18:38] <theadmin> Oh, wait, /usr/bin/X not found, uh...
[18:39] <bekks> !info /usr/bin/X
[18:39] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/X
[18:39] <himansurathi> anoj-aladiah :there might be something as Hardwares in the control panel and there u may see power options
[18:39] <bekks> ah :)
[18:39] <anjo-aladiah> someone know where it is power options inside control panel in windows ?
[18:39] <theadmin> Apparently that file is not provided by any package...
[18:39] <bekks> anjo-aladiah: Thats a good question for ##windows
[18:39] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Uh, it's just called "power options"
[18:39] <TheMaverick`> theadmin: Shouldn't X be with xserver-xorg-core-lts-trusty?
[18:39] <anjo-aladiah> hardware and sound ? system and securit
[18:40] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Meh, switch to uncategorised view
[18:40] <anjo-aladiah> theadmin: it dont give me that option
[18:41] <TheMaverick`> Is the current Minimal install based on 14.04 or 14.10?
[18:41] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Here: http://i.imgur.com/U9KMliI.png
[18:41] <theadmin> TheMaverick`: There's likely one for both of them.
[18:41] <canolucas> hey, is there a way to transfer audio to the TV automatically when connecting it via HDMI ?
[18:42] <himansurathi>  Is it safe to install fedora if I already have windows 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04
[18:42] <k1l_> TheMaverick`: there is a minimal install every release. so for 14.04 and for 14.10
[18:42] <anjo-aladiah> theadmin: yes that i have small icons
[18:42] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Well select that and then look for "Power options"
[18:42] <anjo-aladiah> ok iam in it
[18:43] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Now "Change what the power buttons do"
[18:43] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Then, uncheck "Enable fast startup"
[18:43] <theadmin> Finally, save it and reboot
[18:43] <dimi> I'm trying to install Desurium and I came up against a problem: http://pastebin.com/J7hXLxBF What do I do?
[18:43] <theadmin> Or, err.
[18:43] <theadmin> Shutdown.
[18:43] <bekks> 14!info desurium
[18:43] <bekks> !info desurium
[18:44] <TheMaverick`> k1l_: Seems like I must have 14.04 --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A64-bit_PC_.28amd64.2C_x86_64.29
[18:44] <himansurathi> Is it safe to install fedora if I already have windows 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04
[18:44] <bekks> himansurathi: Ask the fedora support, we dont know it :)
[18:44] <bubbasaures> himansurathi, Could be ask ##fedora
[18:44] <k1l_> TheMaverick`: if that is the name and the hash, its 14.04.
[18:44] <bekks> dimi: If you have issues compiling that application from source, you should ask the authors/maintainers of that software.
[18:45] <eric> having trouble with apt-get update - it failes - the failing entries are not in sources.list. I want to remove the entries - where can i find them?
[18:45] <theadmin> eric: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:45] <eric> theadmin thx
[18:45] <anjo-aladiah> theadmin: the power buttons are to put all doing nothing in baterry or plug in to eletrical ?
[18:45] <dimi> sigh, alright, bekks. spent two hours building it. ;_; thanks.
[18:46] <bubbasaures> himansurathi, Not much difference in any linux OS, more similar than different most the time.
[18:46] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: Wat no, just look at the bottom of that screen, there are a couple checkboxes
[18:46] <jhon> hi
[18:47] <ugb3> noone to help me with my « drm_kms_helper panic occurred switching back to text console » ? :(
[18:47] <anjo-aladiah> theadmin : there were boxes to put buttons doing nothing when on batery or when in pluged. i put doing notinhg in all
[18:48] <anjo-aladiah> i restarted and it restarted windows again
[18:48] <theadmin> anjo-aladiah: http://i.imgur.com/eiIMz7Z.png - I mean this thing.
[18:48] <anjo-aladiah> the admin: yes took out that
[18:49] <anjo-aladiah> i terminate it again and it start with windows again
[18:49] <theadmin> OK, hm
[18:49] <theadmin> Then your problem is indeed something else.
[18:50] <anjo-aladiah> i will try boot repair.
[18:51] <TheMaver1ck`> Well... that was fun.
[18:52] <anjo-aladiah> the problem is i cant modify the settting in boot, to disable boot secure feature on  PAckard Bell, acer stykle
[18:53] <TheMaverick`> So, since I'm getting an "X not found" error... how do I install X? I thought it would come with xserver-xorg-core-lts-trusty.
[18:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Hello i followed this on how to install apache + php (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04) and on accident i changed something so when i go localhost i see the default page but i made a directory and when i go to it i see "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /cheese/index.php on this server. Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80"
[18:54] <mdoge> :-)
[18:56] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Hello i followed this on how to install apache + php (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04) and on accident i changed something so when i go localhost i see the default page but i made a directory and when i go to it i see "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /cheese/index.php on this server. Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80"
[18:57] <mdoge> GuyThatNeedsHelp: use /var/www/
[18:57] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge: what do you mean?
[18:57] <mdoge> and make sure its permissions are correct (chown -r www-data:www-data /var/www/)
[18:58] <mdoge> GuyThatNeedsHelp: /var/www/ is the webroot of your apache server
[18:58] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge: i put my directory in /var/www/html
[18:58] <mdoge> chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/
[18:58] <mdoge> try that
[18:58] <racho> GuyThatNeedsHelp, probably /var/www/html is with messed permissions
[18:59] <matthias_> how can i disable the lockscreen for all fat clients in the chroot. i'm using the mate desktop
[18:59] <alo21> Hi...I cannot hear sound from hdmi outpur or aux cable. Can someone help me?
[18:59] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9029760/
[18:59] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9029760/
[19:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> how would i change the permissions?
[19:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge: how would i change the permissions? i know i messed them up when i was installing
[19:01] <mdoge> GuyThatNeedsHelp: chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/
[19:01] <bubba> I've been trying to get wifi working on ubuntu/lubuntu on a laptop that requires the buttons to work (averatec 5110), Ive looked, and cant find the av5100 module that should solve my button problem.
[19:01] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge: that changes it?
[19:01] <mdoge> GuyThatNeedsHelp: yes
[19:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge: i did that and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9029760/
[19:02] <mdoge> GuyThatNeedsHelp: my command changes the ownership for all the files and directories in /var/www/ (the -R flag does that)
[19:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge i forgot sudo
[19:02] <mdoge> GuyThatNeedsHelp: sorry. use sudo.
[19:02] <seydar> hi, i'm having a lot of trouble install pandoc on my ubuntu box
[19:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mdoge: thanks
[19:03] <mdoge> GuyFromMars: does it work now?
[19:03] <canolucas>  Hi. Does anyone know if there is a way to automatically transfer audio to the TV whenever i connect it via HDMI as other famous OS does ?
[19:03] <seydar> i keep getting 404 not found errors for the package: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pandoc/pandoc_1.10.1-1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[19:03] <seydar> and i'm running `sudo apt-get install pandoc`
[19:05] <bubba> I need help figuring out how to get av5110 module.
[19:06] <seydar> hot damn, i finally fixed it: https://smyl.es/how-to-fix-ubuntudebian-apt-get-404-not-found-package-repository-errors-saucy-raring-quantal-oneiric-natty/
[19:06] <seydar> i've been struggling with this for a while, and sure enough as soon as i come to IRC, i resolve it without actual human interaction. kinda like calling your friend whenever you get lost in a store
[19:07] <k1l_> seydar you should be updating anyway
[19:12] <anjo-aladiah> This boot repair its like a super robot and is tellling me what commands to type to recover grub
[19:15] <anjo-aladiah> I tought i need to create a flash usb with it, but dont. Only thing i need was a thing i have , a Live usb flash with Lubuntu. I hope this boot repair work for me
[19:16] <bubbasaures> anjo-aladiah, Save the bootinfo summary if run, you will get a url it's at.
[19:17] <bubbasaures> where it's at*
[19:18] <cordyceps> got a hardware(ram) problem. Is this  the right venue?
[19:18] <alo21> please help mee
[19:19] <bubbasaures> cordyceps, There is ##hardware
[19:19] <murosai> when using screen+irssi sometimes long lines get displayed really oddly, does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:19] <bubba> i have a problem with a module that my laptop seems to need (av5100), but I cant find it.
[19:20] <bubbasaures> alo21, Don't plead, details are what get you help here.
[19:20] <anjo-aladiah> k1l:  boot repair gave me an error. here is the link  (paste.ubuntu.com/Boot-info_2014-11-15_02h05.txt
[19:21] <alo21> i can't hear sound when hdmi is connected, or via aux cable
[19:21] <scottyarwood> Hello
[19:22] <bubba> can anyone see what I type?
[19:22] <Fghg> haha
[19:22] <Fghg> yes I see
[19:22] <scottyarwood> I am thinking about trying to get ubuntu but currently I have fedora and I can't even get the ubuntu live cd to boot. Is there anything I can do to get it started?
[19:23] <bubba> Fghg, Thanks.
[19:23] <ehsanv> yes buba
[19:23] <riccardo_> hello
[19:23] <ehsanv> i can see
[19:23] <riccardo_> hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:23] <anjo-aladiah> k1l: sorry somthing wrong with the url
[19:23] <Fghg> folks for some reason when I play youtube some weird horizontal lines come across screen
[19:23] <ehsanv> hello ricardo
[19:23] <Fghg> so fucking bizzare
[19:23] <Fghg> ÖD
[19:23] <Fghg> I wonder how to fix it
[19:23] <bubbasaures> alo21, First google hit here is askubuntu, note the TV is identified you might search there, https://www.google.com/search?q=14.04+hdmi+sound&sa=G&hl=en&gbv=1&sei=3adnVJWBAsmKiwL1y4HQDA
[19:24] <bubba> fghg, that sounds like a flash issue. there are a couple versions that you may need to try to get it working right.
[19:24] <bubbasaures> Fghg, No swearing please, thank you.
[19:24] <Fghg> kl
[19:24] <riccardo_> I do not like the sound in Skype program I tried to take the test but I'm not part of the volume
[19:24] <Fghg> i love swearing sometimes Ö=
[19:24] <Fghg> skype is %%%
[19:24] <Fghg> hehe
[19:24] <Fghg> utox is good
[19:25] <bubba> ehsanv, thanks.
[19:25] <scottyarwood> hello
[19:25] <ehsanv> bubba, you're wecome
[19:26] <scottyarwood> I currently have fedora installed on my computer but I want to get ubuntu. Ever since I installed fedora, I can't boot any liveCD's. Is there anything I can do?
[19:27] <riccardo_> hello scotty
[19:27] <scottyarwood> hi
[19:27] <Gregorian_1TB> scottyarwood: the live boot is always coming before the installed OS
[19:27] <the_eye_> scottyarwood,  Boot cd is a bios setting
[19:27] <Gregorian_1TB> scottyarwood: check your bios settings
[19:27] <scottyarwood> it's not doing that for me
[19:27] <scottyarwood> I did and cd is first
[19:28] <the_eye_> scottyarwood, check if cd/dvd burn succesfully
[19:28] <scottyarwood> it works on our desktop, just not my laptop
[19:28] <the_eye_> Try with a usb
[19:28] <riccardo_> scotty my advice fast operating system
[19:28] <scottyarwood> What do you mean by that?
[19:29] <ehsanv> scotty try F11 right after bios screen
[19:29] <scottyarwood> ok thanks
[19:29] <scottyarwood> I'll try it
[19:30] <riccardo_> ciao
[19:30] <pero> ciao ricardo
[19:31] <riccardo_> pero sei esperto di linux
[19:31] <squinty> to access the bootup options, different computers use different hot keys.  some use Esc others F12 etc.  usually the key options are displayed on the computers boot splash screen or check the unit's docs for such
[19:32] <pero> riccardo speak eng pls
[19:33] <riccardo_> pero no eng italiano sono
[19:34] <squinty> !it > riccardo_
[19:37] <Hulio> is there a way to block seeing subversion folder when browsing on web page?
[19:37] <Hulio> i know subversion is using apache
[19:38] <Hulio> but how to block viewing it on the web page?
[19:39] <OerHeks> Hulio i guess not.
[19:39] <pero> ricardo im not italian but like this name pero
[19:40] <Almindor> if you start a program in ubuntu and it's loading is the mouse cursor supposed to reflect it somehow?
[19:40] <Almindor> e.g. before you see the window of the program show up, I'd expect some kind of feedback that things are loading
[19:40] <Gregorian_1TB> Almindor: ya you usually see a round circle animation, similar to Mac OS
[19:41] <Almindor> Gregorian_1TB, I never get that
[19:41] <Almindor> Gregorian_1TB, my cursor is always the normal pointer
[19:41] <Gregorian_1TB> maybe because you pc is too fast :P
[19:41] <Almindor> Gregorian_1TB, I wished :D but it pisses me off with steam games
[19:41] <Gregorian_1TB> Almindor: no seriously, which WM are you using ?
[19:41] <bubba> I guess im screwed on this module for ubuntu/lubuntu. Can anyone reccomend a distro that supports av5100 module?
[19:41] <Almindor> Gregorian_1TB, unity
[19:41] <Gregorian_1TB> ah, steam is special
[19:42] <Gregorian_1TB> behaves rather erratically on my machine at least
[19:42] <Almindor> Gregorian_1TB, if I start a steam game for example sometimes it loads for seconds with 0 indication, I have to look at disk usage to see it's trying something
[19:42] <Gregorian_1TB> the steam launch itself, it should show it though
[19:42] <Almindor> hmm I see
[19:42] <Almindor> VALVE!! :D
[19:42] <Gregorian_1TB> yep, when you launch sth inside steam, its no longer the wm buisness
[19:42] <Almindor> but then again, I thought this was a std. shell functionality
[19:42] <matthias_> hello i want to modify the command which is run, when i click on System -> Lock Screen. which file do i have to edit? I'm on Mate
[19:42] <Gregorian_1TB> shell is sth different ^^
[19:43] <Almindor> I meant graphical shell
[19:43] <Almindor> like gnome3
[19:43] <Gregorian_1TB> ummh, steam is really like you are already running a programm
[19:43] <Gregorian_1TB> its like loading a level from inside a game, you wouldnt expect an animation there right ?
[19:44] <Gregorian_1TB> at least not one from the wm
[19:44] <Gregorian_1TB> you can start steam games right away without invoking this huge "steam browser" or whatever that is
[19:47] <Gregorian_1TB> at least for me I find start scripts for my steam games in '~./steam/steam/SteamApps/common/GAMENAME
[19:48] <binni> q
[19:49] <murosai> when using screen+irssi sometimes long lines get displayed really oddly, does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:50] <Midoshi27> Hello all, I'm using a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 and can't get my second monitor to display. It was working fine just last night, but now it's not at all.
[19:51] <Midoshi27> I know that in the BIOS I should have the nvidia card set to 'Discrete Graphics' (and I do) but when I boot it is setting it back to the default setting
[19:51] <squinty> murosai:  there is a #irssi channel here on freenode
[19:51] <latengorelarga> exit
[19:51] <dimi> i downloaded the official desura client, and followed the instructions in the readme. everything installed.
[19:51] <latengorelarga> close
[19:51] <latengorelarga> quit
[19:51] <dimi> but now when I double-click the desura icon, nothing happens. help?
[19:52] <the_eye_> dimi, try from terminal
[19:52] <dimi> what do i do in the terminal, the_eye_
[19:52] <the_eye_> dimi, to run desura client
[19:59] <dimi> the_eye_, what do I type in the terminal to run the client?
[20:00] <the_eye_> dimi, Well I don know, I dont use desura. But terminal is much more verbose about errors.
[20:02] <dimi> the_eye_, dir returns this in desura's folder:     bin     desura     desura.desktop     docs     lib_extra     version     data     desura_appfiles.xml     desura-force.desktop     lib     README     xdg
[20:02] <dimi> the_eye_, any guesses?
[20:02] <the_eye_> try "./desura" without ""
[20:04] <dimi> nope.
[20:04] <dimi> sigh
[20:05] <kostkon> !split
[20:05] <kostkon> !netsplit
[20:05] <harish_> hi
[20:05] <harish_> just started new eclipse ADT
[20:05] <squinty> !banana
[20:06] <harish_> but there are no menu for it, i am useing ubuntu 14.04
[20:08] <harish_> i can not find main menu for eclipse in ubuntu 14.04 http://imgur.com/ittLGOl
[20:10] <matthias_> I'm pretty sure, that i found the path i edited it with nano /usr/share/applications/mate-screensaver-lock.desktop but it doesn't get executed. when i go to the folder via caja, and double click the file, it is working fine
[20:14] <iago42> swag
[20:14] <cordyceps> got a micro ATX pc with ddr2 2gig RAM. I added another 2gig RAM(ebay) and then had only 3G plus the desktop wouldn't open, only console mode available. Had to switch back. What's my next move?
[20:16] <flexus> cordyceps: free -h
[20:20] <eraggo> quickie for those running 14.04: how do i get usb thumb drives to work (read/write) in it? I do remember this issue was problem but cant remember how i did fix it earlier
[20:20] <mrkirby153> So, I'm a member of the www-data group but I still can't write to /var/www over FTP
[20:22] <mrkirby153> Or should I just chown it to myself only
[20:22] <flexus> eraggo: what does lsusb say? does it detect the drive?
[20:22] <eraggo> flexus: yes; i can read from it
[20:22] <flexus> mount ?
[20:22] <eraggo> only writing is issu
[20:23] <cordyceps> eraggo: might have to be formatted fat32 IIRC
[20:23] <flexus> a RW switch on the thumbdrive?
[20:23] <eraggo> flexus: no r/w switch on it. laptop near here can read and write on it
[20:25] <matthias_> please help me
[20:25] <cordyceps> flexus: was away, sorry. free -h? Doesn't tell me how to fix.
[20:25] <eraggo> flexus, cordyceps mount command shows http://pastebin.com/uHy7bZ5m
[20:26] <flexus> eraggo: ls -l on  /dev/sd bla ?
[20:26] <flexus> cordyceps:  only wanted to know if sum of ram is written correctly
[20:26] <morhad> ubuntu 14.4 have any method to switch kbd layout between 2 languages  with one kbd combination and if I want to switch to 3rd language, for this case I will use anothe combination..
[20:27] <morhad> ?
[20:27] <eraggo> flexus: http://pastebin.com/VvcTWvPG
[20:27] <cordyceps> flexus: yes. But I had to switch back to original 2G. It didn't work with the extra 2
[20:28] <flexus> cordyceps: maybe ECC ram u are mixing
[20:28] <bubbasaures> matthias_, I think this might help as far as getting help here. https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[20:29] <flexus> eraggo: might be ok
[20:29] <matthias_> bubbasaures: i know
[20:29] <root____1> Hi
[20:30] <root____1> Are my messages seen?
[20:30] <bubbasaures> matthias_, Spreading the info out you gave across the channel with no answers makes it really difficult to help, especially when not really well detailed is all. ;)
[20:30] <OerHeks> !rootirc | root____1
[20:30] <eraggo> flexus: it just doesnt allow me to write :<
[20:30] <cordyceps> flexus: according to $sudo lshw -C memory the two sticks(old and new) were identical but only 1G of the new RAM showed up PLUS no desktop, so I took out the new 2G module and everything returned to "normal"
[20:31] <matthias_> bubbasaures: so it was not clear, what i meant?
[20:31] <HFSPLUS> is there more themes to unity than radiance and ambiance?
[20:31] <bubbasaures> matthias_, What is blank mode?
[20:32] <ugb3> Hi everyone, for no evident reason i’m getting a Kernel Panic with « drm_kms_helper panic occurred switching back to text console »any idea ?
[20:32] <ugb3> i’m using 14.04LTS btw
[20:32] <OerHeks> HFSPLUS, sure, here are 10 >> http://sourcedigit.com/9432-top-10-best-custom-themes-ubuntu-14-04/
[20:32] <HFSPLUS> OerHeks, thanks i will look into god bless you
[20:32] <eraggo> flexus: this is very weird; it does allow me to create data on terminal but not in GUI? Basically meaning i can write and read data in console. Very weird
[20:32] <matthias_> bubbasaures: i meant with that, only black screen, but i switched from xscreensaver to i3lock, since i couldn't find the "blank mode". my current problem is the following
[20:33] <OerHeks> HFScarefull with the mac theme, it might ruin your system
[20:33] <DrManhattan> I installed ubuntu on fakeraid and my raid mirror reads as "initializing" in my bios, even though it is healthy according to dmraid -s
[20:33] <flexus> cordyceps: maybe make a ram check with grub bootmenu
[20:33] <DrManhattan> is this something I should be concerned with?
[20:33] <ugb3> One of the last line is « rip r100_mm_rreg+0x39/0x70 [radeon] »
[20:33] <matthias_> http://imgur.com/jgzsCoN i want to edit the command which gets executed when i click the highlighted item to lock the screen.
[20:34] <cordyceps> flexus: thanks, will try ;)
[20:34] <flexus> eraggo: so x doesnt have right?
[20:34] <flexus> rights
[20:34] <matthias_> bubbasaures: i already modified the highlighted .desktop file in the file browser. and it is working when i double click it. but it seems that it is not the same like in the panel
[20:34] <eraggo> flexus: seems so maybe
[20:34] <matthias_> bubbasaures: is my problem now clear?
[20:35] <matthias_> the file i edited was: /usr/share/applications/mate-screensaver-lock.desktop
[20:35] <MadHatter42> anyone know whats the security issue with systemd ?
[20:36] <flexus> cordyceps: make a buzz if it works out
[20:38] <flexus> eraggo: maybe some windowmanager issues
[20:38] <flexus> lightdm or such
[20:38] <bubbasaures> matthias_, Sorry had to take a call, my contact with you was for really to make it clearer to the channel not me, mainly concerned you get help is all. ;)
[20:38] <matthias_> bubbasaures: thanks
[20:39] <ugb3> This time I only get an hyphen on the top left part of the screen…
[20:40]  * bubbasaures thinks his shadow is a "ethnic mother" choose your favorite
[20:41] <miaa> !list
[20:41] <dale> moving app windows across desktop switcher always freezes my system, on if a 5tabterminal, firefox, gedit
[20:42] <ugb3> Nobody to help me help myself with my kp ? :(
[20:42] <dale> using 14.04 LTS, all updates done
[20:42] <_DeLa_> The movie project about the scientist Wilhelm Reich needs your support! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/25874147/wilhelm-reich-documentary-film-project
[20:42] <DrManhattan> Im not supporting anything with the word Reich in it
[20:42] <DrManhattan> sorry
[20:43] <DrManhattan> I installed ubuntu on fakeraid and my raid mirror reads as "initializing" in my bios, even though it is healthy according to dmraid -s
[20:43] <DrManhattan> is this something I should be concerned with?
[20:43] <OerHeks> _DeLa_, please don't spam here, thanks
[20:43] <flexus> _DeLa_: lol
[20:43] <Bashing-om> ugb3: I am hist joining . kp ?
[20:43] <_DeLa_> c'mon guys....
[20:43] <_DeLa_> :-)
[20:43] <OerHeks> !ot > _DeLa_
[20:43] <ugb3> Bashing-om: Kernel Panic
[20:44] <_DeLa_> okay...I see...sorry
[20:44] <eraggo> flexus: made quick video about issue.. waiting upload happening to show it
[20:45] <ugb3> With nomodeset I only have a a white point over a black screen, x doesn’t seems to start.
[20:45] <ugb3> oh it does after a while.
[20:45] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Have youy tried booting an older kernel ? - see what happens - can you boot to terminal from the grub boot menu ( maybe then isolate to the GUI ) .
[20:46] <ugb3> Bashing-om: I don’t have any older kernel, in fact I have the older one atm…
[20:47] <ugb3> Bashing-om: I can booth with nomodeset tho but I don’t know what happened it has worked for a while and i didn’t do any update before it broke.
[20:47] <eraggo> flexus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYqepWDEOQ sorry for my language
[20:49] <flexus> eraggo: je ne comprends pas
[20:49] <ugb3> Anyway to reinstall the « radeon » drivers or downgranding it ?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Humm .."nomodeset" disables Kernel mode setting. What results if you try and boot to terminal from the grub boot menu ( 'e' key, replace boot parameters "quiet splash" with the term text ) . Maybe see then what results if we start the GUI from terminal .
[20:50] <ugb3> Bashing-om: Doing that.
[20:51] <eraggo> flexus: nope. i am pretty sure i had this problem like on launch. can't remember how i did fixed it
[20:51] <flexus> eraggo: its some user rights problem
[20:51] <teaearlgraycold_> I shouldn't have issues installing Ubuntu on a Win 8 machine if I built it myself, right?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Yeah, we can alwys try and (re-)install graphics drivers . When ready we look at the chip set and IF a driver is installed.
[20:52] <EriC^^> eraggo: what's the error say?
[20:52] <ugb3> Bashing-om: It used to work pretty well with sound over hdmi and everything.
[20:52] <ugb3> Bashing-om: Ok I got a console
[20:53] <OerHeks> teaearlgraycold_, depends, did you setup win8 with bitlocker?
[20:53] <eraggo> EriC^^: i'll try my best to translate: "error on copying files: you can only read from target"
[20:53] <teaearlgraycold_> OerHeks, you mean is the Windows partition encrypted?
[20:53] <OerHeks> teaearlgraycold_, yes
[20:53] <teaearlgraycold_> I had a random bitlocker partition that I just found, but it was on my mechanical drive not my SSD boot drive
[20:53] <teaearlgraycold_> So no
[20:54] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Hey hey .. situation is not hopeless, huh ? .. Ok, what Desktop environment are you running ? unity ? gnome ? else ?
[20:54] <ugb3> Bashing-om: cinanon
[20:54] <teaearlgraycold_> OerHeks, can I just install into free space and then add an entry to GRUB (or whatever is hip these days)?
[20:54] <ugb3> Cinnamon*
[20:55] <OerHeks> teaearlgraycold_, oke, then no worries, just check if you have formatted in GPT and if your system has UEFI, but there is a manual for
[20:55] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:55] <EriC^^> eraggo: try to type nautilus . in the terminal and create the directory
[20:55] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Gimme a bit as I do not know what display manager cinnamon uses .
[20:55] <eraggo> EriC^^: same issue; now with root/sudo?
[20:56] <flexus> eraggo: with root is cheating...
[20:56] <EriC^^> that doesn't make sense
[20:56] <teaearlgraycold_> OerHeks, how do I know if Windows was installed in EFI mode?
[20:56] <teaearlgraycold_> Is Win8 always installed in EFI mode
[20:56] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: not always no
[20:56] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: are you on ubuntu?
[20:57] <OerHeks> teaearlgraycold_, you could see this in the uefi-bios screen
[20:57] <teaearlgraycold_> I'm on windows 8
[20:57] <teaearlgraycold_> Want to install Ubuntu
[20:57] <teaearlgraycold_> Well, Xubuntu
[20:57] <eraggo> EriC^^ flexus with sudo permissions i can write to drive in nautilus. no need to use console. wth
[20:57] <EriC^^> ok check the bios screen, or go to control panel > type disk
[20:58] <EriC^^> check if there's an "ESP" or EFI partition ( about 300mb or so at the start of the disk )
[20:58] <teaearlgraycold_> EriC^^, http://i.imgur.com/SViLyyG.png
[20:58] <flexus> eraggo: right, so a permission issue
[20:58] <EriC^^> looks like it's not efi
[20:59] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: does it mention the partition table somewhere too?
[20:59] <flexus> eraggo: make some visudo magic
[20:59] <teaearlgraycold_> So I just need to disable secureboot?
[20:59] <EriC^^> mbr/msdos or gpt ?
[20:59] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: also the fast boot
[20:59] <eraggo> flexus: just say how lo
[20:59] <eraggo> lol*
[20:59] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: control panel > power
[20:59] <flexus> eraggo: cant tell you exactly - i'm not really ubuntu
[20:59] <teaearlgraycold_> No mention of a partition table
[21:00] <flexus> eraggo: some visudo and user group stuff  maybe
[21:00] <teaearlgraycold_> Power what
[21:00] <flexus> gpasswd bla
[21:00] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: there should be something along the lines of advanced settings or so
[21:00] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Ok, from that terminal let's try and start Cinnamon -> cinnamon-session-cinnamon2d <- does it start, and any errors reported ?
[21:01] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: power > change what the button does > settings that are currently unavailable > fast boot
[21:01] <Prezident> Hey guys!
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Hi Prezident
[21:02] <Prezident> Ive got an server and using scp alot, and wanna use alias to make it quicker and easier.. Why not "alias text="scp $1 nick@bla.bla:/bla
[21:02] <Prezident> Dosnt $1 works with alias?
[21:02] <ugb3> Bashing-om: « cinnamon-session:2648 Warning **: Impossible to open display »
[21:02] <teaearlgraycold_> EriC^^, I'm going to enable UAC. Can I just disable fast boot outside of windows?
[21:02] <EriC^^> Prezident: yes, it works
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: no because the alias is just substitutes in when you run commands
[21:03] <flexus> bla is such a thing
[21:03] <Prezident> So is there any solution on this?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: sounds like you want a bash script and $1 will work then
[21:03] <EriC^^> ActionParsnip: alias does use $1 too
[21:03] <Prezident> Why i get "Not a regular file" then EriC^^ when im trying?
[21:03] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Sheesshh .. ok, let's do look and see if a driver module is loaded -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> EriC^^: what is $1 in an alias....
[21:04] <EriC^^> the first argument
[21:04] <Prezident> Yeah so then text File.txt should get scp:ed but i get Not a regular file as reply
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> EriC^^: so the first arg in any command can be referenced inline like that?
[21:05] <ugb3> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/8r9SJj6Q
[21:05] <ugb3> Bashing-om: Ah shit it kept my language…
[21:05] <Bashing-om> ugb3: look'n http://pastebin.com/8r9SJj6Q .
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: I'd make a bash script and it will work as expected.
[21:05] <Prezident> You will fix it for me ActionParsnip ?
[21:05] <Prezident> I am so happy! Thank you so much.
[21:06] <Prezident> But most i want this alias work.
[21:06] <EriC^^> yeah i'd use a bash script oo
[21:06] <EriC^^> *too
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: make a text file in one of the folders in $PATH and mark it as executable
[21:06] <Prezident> Alright
[21:06] <Prezident> gedit
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: set the top line as:   #!/bin/bash
[21:07] <Prezident> ok
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: then your command
[21:07] <Prezident> done
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: you will need to run gedit with sudo to get access outside of $HOME
[21:07] <flexus> make a path
[21:08] <Prezident> okidoki
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: save the new file and use chmod to mark it executable
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Prezident: now $1 will work as you expect
[21:09] <Prezident> Ok
[21:09] <Prezident> What about alias !\^, wont work neither?
[21:09] <Prezident> Ok well, let me try this you did now first.
[21:09] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Well you have " produit: RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550] " and I bet by now you know there is no proprietary driver available for that card, and you are running with the open source driver 'radeon' installed. Lemme think on this a bit as to why the display is not available to Cinnamon.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Bashing-om: there is a PPA for older radeons. There used to be an issue with the Xorg in Precise which it fixed
[21:10] <BusinessMan> Hey
[21:11] <turtle8120> has anyone tried the nvidia gtx 750 ti in ubuntu? will it be compatible with ubuntu 1404?
[21:11] <nycn> ugb3 use the open source driver and set the =1
[21:11] <EriC^^> text () { scp $1 nick@bla.bla:/bla; }
[21:11] <EriC^^> Prezident: ^^^ type that
[21:11] <ugb3> nycn: Sorry I don’t get it ?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Bashing-om: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/ubuntu/fglrx
[21:12] <EriC^^> Prezident: then type text <something>
[21:12] <Rallias> Is there a version of pageant for ubuntu?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> !info pageant
[21:13] <Rallias> :( So I've got to find a windows computer to deal with these ssh keys :/
[21:14] <EriC^^> Prezident: you can use 2 arguments, text () { scp "$1" nick@bla.bla:"$2"; }
[21:14] <Bashing-om> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I am aware of that method, downgrading Xserver will lead to problems later .
[21:15] <EriC^^> Prezident: like text <something to send> <where to send to>
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: why? Ubuntu can manage SSH keys...
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: what are you wamting to achieve?
[21:16] <Rallias> ActionParsnip: I'm dealing with keys to a server I haven't dealt with in about 2 years.
[21:16] <flexus> Prezident: do yo have only 1 host to connect to ?
[21:16] <eraggo> flexus EriC^^ why does mounting of my flash drive do this?
[21:16] <eraggo> http://pastebin.com/MAkKZruu
[21:16] <andrewjs18> hi folks, how can I use the rm command to delete several files that all have certain text in the file names?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: then scp your public key to the box you want to connect to and append it to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: or am I missing something?
[21:17] <flexus> eraggo: first sight: your device is owned by root
[21:17] <Rallias> ActionParsnip: Yeah, me being able to scp in the first place.
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: what does pagaent do?
[21:17] <andrewjs18> for example: file_123_56.sql.gz...how can I remove everything with file_123 in it?
[21:17] <Rallias> Handles putty's keys.
[21:17] <flexus> eraggo: chown
[21:17] <Prezident> flexus: yes
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: is this on a Linux client?
[21:17] <Rallias> It's a windows ssh client, I'm on a ubuntu 14.10 machine.
[21:18] <Rallias> And, to the best of my current knowledge, there's no windows computer within about a mile.
[21:18] <ugb3> andrejpan: use * as a wildcard
[21:18] <eraggo> flexus: so basically i need to do that with every usb stick/drive to get permission to write? before reinstallation it did work like a charm
[21:18] <ugb3> rm file_123*
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: if you copy your public key you can paste to the file as text using vi / no
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: nano etc
[21:19] <andrewjs18> ugb3, is that for me?
[21:19] <ugb3> yeah
[21:19] <andrewjs18> thanks, I'll give it a while
[21:19] <flexus> eraggo: as i see you need to change owner
[21:19] <ugb3> andrewjs18: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php
[21:19] <Rallias> ActionParsnip: This key that's in putty format is the only way to log into said server. I can't SSH without it, and I don't know how to deal with it.
[21:20] <flexus> little bit out of alignement
[21:20] <flexus> eraggo: you worked as root before, right?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: then it sounds like you'll need someone to put your key into the server for you
[21:20] <andrewjs18> ugb3, ty
[21:20] <EriC^^> Prezident: you can have it check if theres 2 or 1 arguments text () { if [ -z $2 ]; then scp "$1" nick@bla.bla:/bla; else scp "$1" nick@bla.bla:"$2"; fi }
[21:21] <Rallias> ActionParsnip: The key's already on the server, but I only have it in putty format, not openssh format.
[21:21] <eraggo> flexus: i used sudo
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: then I'd ask in ##windows to see how to change it in PuTTY
[21:21] <flexus> eraggo: *headscratch* hm ok
[21:21] <EriC^^> ( in case you use 1 directory a lot and sometimes use others 0
[21:22] <flexus> maybe i read it wrong
[21:22] <Rallias> ActionParsnip: I don't HAVE windows.
[21:22] <eraggo> flexus: :D i am doing it too; a lot. it is not a problem with me copying to use console but if someone else using my computer......
[21:24] <trism> Rallias: putty is in the repos, so you could always use that if you can't figure out how to convert it, maybe it has some tool to export it
[21:25] <flexus> eraggo: didnt understand
[21:25] <Bashing-om> ugb3: From terminal what results -> cinnamon-settings panel < - .
[21:25] <eraggo> flexus: *headscratch* part
[21:26] <ugb3> Bashing-om: lot of text ending with failed
[21:26] <flexus> eraggo: working as root you mean
[21:26] <ugb3> and seg fault.
[21:26] <ugb3> Gtk-CRITICAL errors, wanna a paste Bashing-om ?
[21:27] <EriC^^> flexus: eraggo guys /media/eraggo is owned by root true, but he has acl permissions there ( see the + at the end )
[21:27] <EriC^^> eraggo: i don't get what you meant by why does it mount like that?
[21:27] <EriC^^> the partition is being mounted as AF9E-... owned by yourself
[21:27] <eraggo> flexus: umm.. this might be stupid question. on what usergroup i must be in to write to flash drive and how i do set to be in one?
[21:27] <EriC^^> eraggo: are you mounting it in nautilus?
[21:27] <andrewjs18> worked like a charm, ugb3
[21:28] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Cinnamon the only desk top installed ?  no paste at this time .. maybe look at what the package manager thinks as to what may be broken ?
[21:29] <ugb3> Bashing-om: Yeah, i’m using mint actually, i’m checking if any pkg is broken
[21:29] <Bashing-om> ugb3: What release are you running ? I seem to recall that Cinnamon is now in the 14.10 repository .. Might check and see .
[21:29] <eraggo> EriC^^: it does mount in. I can click it on GUI. just cant create content in it with in desktop; only in console
[21:30] <ugb3> last LTS, based on 14.04
[21:30] <ugb3> Bashing-om:
[21:30] <Bashing-om> ugb3: Yuk, You realize that Mint is not supported here on this channel ?
[21:31] <EriC^^> eraggo: that's odd, cause you tried nautilus . in the terminal right? ( it opened the directory it's mounted on right ? )
[21:31] <ugb3> Bashing-om: Sorry, i’m so used to ubuntu… and it is based on an ubuntu lts...
[21:31] <Bashing-om> !mint
[21:31] <EriC^^> eraggo: i mean, using the same terminal you can mkdir in, you typed nautilus right?
[21:32] <flexus> eraggo: sorry, told this the wrong way days ago: it might be some "sudo usermod -aG" - dont know the group
[21:32] <Bashing-om> ugb3: They can help much better than we, A lot of difference between Mint and ubuntu - when one is past the kernel .
[21:32] <ugb3> Bashing-om: ok.. gonna try to seek help there.
[21:32] <ugb3> Bashing-om: thanks anyway.
[21:33] <Bashing-om> ugb3: OK, there is just too much we can not know about the innards of Mint.
[21:33] <ugb3> Bashing-om: Wasn’t aware of so much differences.
[21:33] <eraggo> EriC^^: new short video on the way sigh
[21:34] <EriC^^> eraggo: it's ok, i'll take your word for it
[21:34] <EriC^^> :D
[21:34] <guntbert> flexus: don't suggest   usermod (it is susceptible to typos)    the easier way is    sudo adduser  <username> <group>
[21:34] <flexus> guntbert: the problem i've seen on adduser is that u delete an existing group
[21:34] <EriC^^> eraggo: maybe the mount options are unusual? try mount | grep /media and paste here
[21:35] <eraggo> EriC^^: funniest thing i KNOW i had this issue beginning of this year :D just cant remember what i did.
[21:35] <cassio3> hey guys, what's the best way to install Linux on my mac
[21:35] <Bashing-om> ActionParsnip: IRT makson96, the basis pf my rationale -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9031674/ . I have been slapped on the wrist in ubuntuforums for making this recommendation .
[21:35] <flexus> guntbert: its some boolean stuff, if you write it the wrong way
[21:35] <cassio3> now that EFI is supported
[21:36] <k1l> !mac | cassio3
[21:36] <Bashing-om> pf/of*
[21:36] <guntbert> flexus: no, its the other way round - with a typo in usermod (-g instead og -G) only the mentioned group remains, adduser is really safe
[21:37] <eraggo> EriC^^: /dev/sdb1 on /media/eraggo/AF9E-3A56 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
[21:37] <flexus> guntbert: ok so you're sure, it was some critical stuff i remember- boolean
[21:37] <flexus> so eraggo pls doublecheck
[21:37] <flexus> either one of us
[21:37] <EriC^^> eraggo: try this
[21:38] <EriC^^> eraggo: try to go to nautilus and create a file instead of a directory
[21:38] <eraggo> same error
[21:38] <guntbert> flexus: I am very certain: usermod IS error-prone
[21:38] <solutionebcanada> I guy
[21:38] <flexus> guntbert: good good
[21:38] <teaearlgraycold_> EriC^^, okay I'm in my UEFI settings and I can see that my boot mode is set to "UEFI and Legacy"
[21:39] <EriC^^> eraggo: dmask=0077 should give only read perms for directories
[21:39] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[21:39] <EriC^^> it should give all the for user
[21:39] <teaearlgraycold_> Oddly my SSD isn't showing up in the UEFI, but my flash drive and HDD are
[21:39] <EriC^^> teaearlgraycold_: i see
[21:40] <EriC^^> try to boot the live usb
[21:40] <eraggo> EriC^^: yes... having no hair after this scratching :|
[21:40] <teaearlgraycold_> If I install it and it turns out my Win8 is EFI will I be screwed?
[21:40] <MagicSpud> hello alacarte is failing adding new shortcuts ubuntu 14.04
[21:40] <EriC^^> eraggo: try to manually mount it
[21:41] <EriC^^> eraggo: unmount in nautilus then type
[21:41] <cassio3> I want to point out that that page has at least one broken link on it
[21:41] <cassio3> is there a distro specifically designed for mac?
[21:41] <EriC^^> eraggo: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> MagicSpud: are there any bugs reported, if not then please report one
[21:41] <k1l> cassio3: osX :)
[21:42] <cassio3> yeah, I know it's weird
[21:42] <cassio3> I'm weird
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> cassio3: mac's aren't special. It's just an overpriced pc
[21:42] <flexus> EriC^^: maybe chroot ?
[21:42] <cassio3> ah this is funny.
[21:42] <eraggo> EriC^^: ok.. now what
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> cassio3: so I'd grab Ubu tu 14.04 and enjoy LTS til April 20q9
[21:42] <cassio3> macs are well supported, including for development
[21:42] <EriC^^> eraggo: use nautilus to create a directory there
[21:42] <MagicSpud> (alacarte:4099): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion 'gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> 2019*
[21:42] <cassio3> I will not get into an argument here
[21:43] <flexus> EriC^^: but i heard you have to buy a cd from amazon to get chroot on ubuntu
[21:43] <cassio3> but linking to a dead bootcamp page is an error
[21:43] <eraggo> EriC^^: blacked out on nautilus
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> cassio3: grab the LTS, it will install
[21:43] <eraggo> EriC^^: oops
[21:43] <EriC^^> flexus: what are you talking about? :D
[21:43] <flexus> EriC^^: forget it
[21:43] <teaearlgraycold_> EriC^^, yeah it boots, but it gave me the option of "Sandisk" and "UEFI: Sandisk". Only "UEFI: Sandisk" boots.
[21:43] <EriC^^> flexus: seriously
[21:43] <MagicSpud> is there any better menu shortcuts manager than alacarte for ubuntu
[21:43] <EriC^^> i'm not understanding
[21:43] <flexus> EriC^^: was on the wrong track with chroot
[21:44] <EriC^^> oh ok
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> MagicSpud: I use gedit personally
[21:44] <MagicSpud> lol
[21:44] <EriC^^> i thought you meant theres spyware in ubuntu or something
[21:44] <k1l> cassio3: the support differs from year of the mac hardware. there are some working good and some having issues.
[21:44] <cassio3> I got it
[21:44] <k1l> cassio3: but in general ubuntu works on them. but you need to make a more specific research then
[21:44] <eraggo> EriC^^: yep.. can't create anything in nautilus. everything was blocked
[21:44] <flexus> EriC^^: no, i didnt use it anyways before i have to say. once
[21:45] <cassio3> I'm quite good at this
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> MagicSpud: copy one of the files from ~/.config/autostart to the desktop, then open it in gedit and change it. Then copy the new file (rename the file) to /usr/share/applications
[21:45] <flexus> didnt work, left it aside
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> cassio3: good at what?
[21:45] <teaearlgraycold_> The installer can't find my Windows installation. I'm installing to the free space at the end of the drive. All of that okay?
[21:46] <flexus> EriC^^: there where some issues i would correct nowadays, so i left chroot aside
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> teaearlgraycold_: run a chkdsk on the NTFS partition in Windows
[21:46] <teaearlgraycold_> Okay, gotta reboot then
[21:46] <EriC^^> eraggo: try ls -l /mnt
[21:46] <flexus> EriC^^: i heard this cool comment from a foreighn guy using another distri, thats the point
[21:47] <EriC^^> eraggo: what are the permissions on the files? -rwxrwxrwx ?
[21:47] <EriC^^> flexus: i see, chroot is for changing the root of the filesystem
[21:47] <EriC^^> like if you have another distro mounted on "/mnt" you chroot to /mnt and your "/" becomes "/mnt"
[21:48] <flexus> EriC^^: you mentioned some reboot or so, and i said chroot...
[21:48] <flexus> some reflex
[21:48] <EriC^^> hehe
[21:48] <EriC^^> it's ok man
[21:48] <EriC^^> :)
[21:49] <cadmium__> Ive got some problems removing old kernels is there any kind soul here who could help me? <3
[21:50] <Bashing-om> cadmium__: What is the problem ? You are using the package manager, no ?
[21:51] <cadmium__> Bashing-om if i do it just freezes :(
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> cadmium__: what is the output of: uname -a; cat /etc/issue; dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep -v extra | awk {'print $2'}
[21:51] <martyj-o> How is this possible? I installed a completely new VM from scratch (exact same Ubuntu version) and copied in the files again, just like before. This time, the ls -l does not have asterisks after the files, and I am able to run it (but it has a different error, but that's at least not the same kind of bizarre error).
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> cadmium__: use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to hold the text
[21:51] <martyj-o> And BTW... asterisk, according to some obscure GNU manual, means "executable file".
[21:52] <eraggo> EriC^^: fixed it with fast googleing: created udev rule for this type of hard drive only for plugdev group (which i am part of)
[21:52] <martyj-o> So it makes absolutely no sense that this isn't shown now, but was before.
[21:52] <martyj-o> I really am at a loss for words about this.
[21:52] <EriC^^> eraggo: great!
[21:52] <bekks> martyj-o: "asterick" means "your shell is currently configured to mark eexecutables with it, but it doesnt mean anything".
[21:52] <martyj-o> bekks: Does it have some kind of keyboard shortcut that I may have accidentally pressed?
[21:52] <cadmium__> Actionparsnip http://pastie.org/9721856
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> martyj-o: what files did you copy in?
[21:52] <bekks> martyj-o: For permissions, look at the permissions, not at astericks.
[21:52] <martyj-o> ActionParsnip: The same ones as before (my own program).
[21:53] <flexus> eraggo: good one
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> cadmium__: Saucy is no longer supported in any way. I suggest you upgrade to Trusty either online or via a clean install
[21:54] <eraggo> flexus EriC^^ thanks for your time. hopefully i do not need to do that rule for each vendor and their product
[21:54] <baby> hello every one
[21:54] <flexus> eraggo: dont do it on arch
[21:54] <eraggo> flexus: i keep that in mind
[21:55] <flexus> eraggo: lifting black hat
[21:55] <eraggo> oh god lol
[21:55] <apofis> hi baby, hi guys
[21:55] <martyj-o> This is very interesting: the 32-bit executable is just entirely ignored by the Ubuntu GUI, and says "file not found" when I attempt to run it in the terminal. The 64-bit executable is also ignored in the GUI when I double click it, but is run (gives a different, unrelated error) when I run it in the terminal. WTF?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> cadmium__: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.11.0-18-generic linux-image-3.11.0-17-generic linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic
[21:55] <bekks> martyj-o: 32bit binary not in path.
[21:55] <flexus> eraggo:  ;)
[21:56] <bekks> martyj-o: How about starting a sane approach to get your application(s) up and running?
[21:56] <eraggo> flexus: just saying SELECTING those vendor/products. just clarifying
[21:56] <cassio3> rebuild the package dependency tree
[21:56] <cassio3> using dpkg
[21:56] <cassio3> it will download all the updates automatically
[21:57] <martyj-o> bekks: What sane approach would that be?
[21:57] <martyj-o> #node-webkit is a ghost town.
[21:57] <martyj-o> I've been trying to get help for this another things for weeks.
[21:57] <martyj-o> Read their Engrish manual 100 times.
[21:57] <bekks> martyj-o: Stop looking at astericks and configure your path to your needs? :)
[21:58] <martyj-o> bekks: I cannot change the PATH of users' computers.
[21:58] <martyj-o> It needs to run immediately without extra config.
[21:58] <martyj-o> As a single executable.
[21:58] <bekks> martyj-o: Why cant you change the users path?
[21:59] <martyj-o> Because of obvious reasons? Changes to their computer is unacceptable.
[21:59] <cassio3> martyj-o
[22:00] <cassio3> you are the sysadmin
[22:00] <bekks> Thats not obvious at all. A user wants to run a specific binary from a non-standard location, so change the path.
[22:00] <cassio3> this is absolutely your responsibility
[22:01] <cassio3> or just use a symlink
[22:01] <bekks> 3rd party software like yours should reside in /opt, so fix the path to include your /opt/mysoftware/bin folder as well.
[22:01] <cassio3> right
[22:01] <teaearlgraycold_> ActionParsnip, no OS detected by Linux still
[22:01] <dominic1134> Hi guys, I'm wondering what anti-spam appliances / gateways you're deploying in a typical business environment? Which features do you use and would you like to have in a typical product like this? We're currently developing a open-source e-mail security appliance and would be happy for your suggestions. See www.openas.org and https://launchpad.net/open-as-cgw
[22:02] <martyj-o> The user downloads MyCoolApp.tar.bz2 onto their desktop. They extract it as a dir called MyCoolApp on their desktop. Then they run the Test binary inside of that dir by double-clicking it.
[22:02] <bekks> martyj-o: Thats not how software is deployed on linux.
[22:02] <bekks> martyj-o: Thats a typical windows way.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> teaearlgraycold_: did you resize the NTFS in Windows?
[22:03] <teaearlgraycold_> Yes
[22:03] <teaearlgraycold_> I googled the issue and it seems like it's normal for Win8 to go undetected
[22:04] <bubbasaures> dominic1134, This is straight ubuntu support is all, check channel topics.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> teaearlgraycold_: try changing the disk to basic (in windows)
[22:04] <teaearlgraycold_> That won't cause any issues?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> teaearlgraycold_: not sure if Win8 can do this as I've not used it
[22:04] <teaearlgraycold_> ...
[22:05] <dominic1134> bubbasaures, sorry
[22:07] <teaearlgraycold_> Can I point / and /home on the same drive easily? This guide I'm looking at wants two partitions
[22:07] <teaearlgraycold_> One for each
[22:07] <teaearlgraycold_> I mean, put / and /home on the same partition*
[22:07] <martyj-o> bekks: Huh? What do you mean it's not how it's deployed on Linux?
[22:07] <martyj-o> bekks: Bear in mind that this isn't an open source application, so it cannot be in some repository.
[22:08] <bekks> martyj-o: Linux software is not deployed by downloading packages, extract them and randomly clicking on something. Software on linux is normally installed by a package manager.
[22:08] <bekks> martyj-o: And WHY exactly cant you create a private repository?
[22:09] <suil> hey guys, just installed ububtu. Created a publich key, appended to authorized keys, when I ssh in, still doesn't require my public key. Any ideas? RSA and pubkey are turned on in the ssh conf
[22:10] <bekks> martyj-o: To answer that for you: the is no reason. If you want to deploy packages, create a repo. It doesnt matter wether you are deploying closed or free software. It is your responsibility as sysdadm to grant access to the people allowed to access it.
[22:10] <apofis> suil: check /var/log/syslog || /var/log/secure - probably an issue with permissions on .ssh/xxx
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> teaearlgraycold_: the default is 2 partitions.  One for / and one for swap
[22:13] <chindy> hi
[22:13] <apofis> hi
[22:13] <chindy> got some question about installing programs in ubuntu
[22:13] <teaearlgraycold_> ActionParsnip, so this is cool? http://pastebin.com/8RpZXakP
[22:14] <apofis> chindy: go ahead
[22:14] <teaearlgraycold_> Both are set to logical partitions
[22:14] <rypervenche> suil: your ~/.ssh needs to be 700 and your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file needs to be 600. That could be the problem.
[22:14] <tree_> kkj
[22:14] <chindy> so when i mv the program to /opt and create a program.desktop etc.... how do i make it so that i can execute the program from the terminal without beeing in the right folder
[22:15] <Tobias|2> chindy: chmod +x /full/path
[22:16] <chindy> Tobias[L] what path is supposed to be /full/path
[22:17] <Tobias[L]> chindy: from the base directory of your pc to the file, if you are unsure start your Folder Manager, go where the file is and right click it, there it will be listed
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> teaearlgraycold_: if you have 2Gb RAM, yes
[22:18] <teaearlgraycold_> I have 8GB
[22:18] <bekks> chindy: Make the file executable and add /opt/yoursoftware/... to your PATH variable.
[22:19] <suil> rypver: any other ideas? i've chmodded, still no dice
[22:20] <chindy> yea but that does not make it executable in a way that i mean...does it? i mean that i can to into the terminal and type eclipse and it starts eclipse not that i have to type ./eclipse etc... simply put just like i would install sth with apt
 hello again...I am trying to add new shortcuts with alacarte the gui is not working so i tried editing the code directly: http://www.pasteall.org/55179/xml but though it worked partly... some of the shortcuts wont appear..I am asking you for the part of the code I didnt edit which is towards the end... I was wondering why the second layout does not have includes?
 because all those shortcuts are listed perfectly despite not having the include tabs
 hint: the first layout and all their include tabs are custom made
 I also checked the .desktop files one by one and they look the same! those working like which are not
[22:21] <julio> hi
[22:22] <apofis> chindy: iapart from chmod +x you can 1. always provide full path to executable ; 2. add /opt/application/whatever to your path 3. make an alias like "alias runme='/opt/application/whatever'"4. other option I use quite often is to link proper executable to ~/bin/ directory
[22:22] <bekks> chindy: I explained the way to run "eclipse" without "./"
[22:26] <teaearlgraycold> So is my main partition logical or primary? Because I'm reading conflicting info
[22:27] <rypervenche> suil: We need to see what it happening. Use the -v option when you try to ssh to the server and pastebin us the output. Also, did you manually add the publicy key to the authorized_keys file or did you use ssh-copy-id?
[22:41] <beltorak> hi all; what's the recommeded way to go about setting my personal iptables ruleset as the default, on-start firewall setup? it's not really feasible to use any of the simplified firewall setups.
[22:42] <j4s0n> beltorak: use rc.local until you figure it oout
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> beltorak: I use
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> beltorak: use rc.local to import a config file, or you can use cron @reboot
[22:44] <deepblue> hi
[22:44] <beltorak> j4s0n: hence my question; is /etc/init a viable option? on a related note, when will systemd replace upstart? when should I start migrating my services?
[22:44] <sonia> hola
[22:47] <suil> hey guys, just installed ububtu. Created a publich key, appended to authorized keys, when I ssh in, still doesn't require my public key. Any ideas? RSA and pubkey are turned on in the ssh conf .. checked the perms.. stlil nothing
[22:48] <beltorak> sui: did you enable it in ssh*d*''s config and restart the sshd service? (I'm not sure if there's a way to get it to reload the config file)
[22:49] <j4s0n> How does one upgrade from quantal to LTS.
[22:49] <j4s0n> beltorak: rc.local is what to use until you figure it out
[22:49] <j4s0n> What command pulls the key for the encrypted home directory I am just going to do a fresh install.
[22:49] <j4s0n> I will need to copy files from my home directory while using a liveCD.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> suil: when you connect using: ssh -vvvvv user@server
[22:50] <k1l> j4s0n: do all upgrades from 12.10 to 13.04 then to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[22:50] <beltorak> j4s0n: what i am trying to do right now is figure it out
[22:50] <j4s0n> k1l: Would you rather I do not do a fresh install?
[22:50] <j4s0n> beltorak: get the source.
[22:51] <k1l> j4s0n: its your choice. with that many upgrades a reinstall and copy back the backuped files seems much faster
[22:51] <suil> beltorka: ye i restarted teh service
[22:51] <kostkon> !eolupgrades
[22:51] <k1l> j4s0n: if you were on 12.04 you could use the LTS upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04
[22:52] <j4s0n> k1l: ok if you don't know the firstboot command that copies the home dir key , I have it written down somwhere.
[22:54] <jjavaholic> What is going wrong here? : GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[22:54] <kostkon> jjavaholic, is it something that is causing problems?
[22:54] <kostkon> jjavaholic, otherwise, you can just ignore it
[22:54] <jjavaholic> I suspect it is causing high CPU usage
[22:55] <mrcnja> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a macbook pro and I'm running into some issues
[22:55] <jjavaholic> this is a guess cause I don't really know what is going on and what the error means
[22:56] <kostkon> jjavaholic, doubt it
[22:56] <mrcnja> I have refind working as the main bootloader
[22:56] <jjavaholic> would you like to explain why you doubt it?
[22:56] <mrcnja> grub is on the ubuntu partition
[22:56] <mrcnja> when I boot into ubuntu I just get a purple screen and nothing else
[22:57] <bubbasaures> mrcnja, Try to consolidate your info and post all at once, and wait for help.
[22:59] <chindy> where should i install java? /opt/ ?
[23:00] <hikenboot> what is the ubuntu live cd password trying to ssh into another instance of the live cd
[23:00] <hikenboot> 14.04
[23:00] <hikenboot> wont let me set it either
[23:06] <beltorak> chindy: what i do (which is probably not recommended) is unpack it to /opt/lib/java/jvm{32,64}/vm, with a few symlinks so java is available at /opt/lib/java/jvm/jdk; some /etc/profile.d magic to set JAVA_HOME=/opt/lib/java/jvm/jdk and put $JAVA_HOME/bin:$JAVA_HOME/jre/bin first on my path...
[23:07] <beltorak> chindy: I also use a custom "package" that tells dpkg that java is already installed
[23:07] <chindy> kk
[23:07] <beltorak> but if you can get away with it, why not use the standard packages?
[23:07] <chindy> beltorak kk ... well i think it should be sufficient to just install it to /opt/jvm
[23:08] <riccardo_> ciao
[23:09] <jason___> k1l: Will you assist?
[23:09] <riccardo_> io assist
[23:10] <jason___> riccardo_: send a privmsg to this nick
[23:10] <jason___> wait
[23:10] <j4s0n> riccardo_: ok, go
[23:11] <mrcnja> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a macbook pro and I'm running into some issues, here's what I know so far: http://privatepaste.com/6d56355200
[23:11] <riccardo_> those who have problems tells me settle your problems ubuntu
[23:12] <k1l> j4s0n: assist on what?
[23:12] <riccardo_> and assist
[23:13] <k1l> chindy: why dont you use the java form the ubuntu repos?
[23:13] <riccardo_> kil java comand terminal sudo install java
[23:14] <bubbasaures> !nomodeset | mrcnja easy test from the grub menu for graphic
[23:15] <rypervenche> hikenboot: ubuntu
[23:15] <beltorak> another question; i installed samba and lxc, when i do nmblookup -MRS -- -, it gives me the samba server using the lxc "router" address, and only my machine in the workgroup... what's going on?
[23:16] <riccardo_> j4s0n
[23:16] <j4s0n> ok ready
[23:16] <j4s0n> riccardo_: yes
[23:16] <j4s0n> the neighbors like to spy
[23:16] <riccardo_> j4s0n
[23:16] <riccardo_> I can solve a problem
[23:17] <j4s0n> ok the problem is to verify the hashsums
[23:18] <j4s0n> given that the neighbors keep doing MITM attacks and hopping onto my torrents I want to verify the hashsum with a stranger.
[23:18] <j4s0n> to be sure I am getting the public iso
[23:18] <riccardo_> noo
[23:18] <j4s0n> riccardo_: noo?
[23:18] <mguy> How do I reinstall the bootloader on my system? I installed Windows 7 on drive 0 and now there is no boot loader for 14.04 on drive 1
[23:18] <k1l> j4s0n: what? the md5sums are public
[23:18] <riccardo_> windows 7 no da problemi
[23:18] <k1l> !md5sum
[23:19] <j4s0n> k1l: no shit!
[23:19] <j4s0n> so if the attacker does MITM they just change the public MD5
[23:19] <axel_sieb> mguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:19] <k1l> j4s0n: can you drop that nonsense please?
[23:19] <bubbasaures> mguy, Chroot from a live and put it in.
[23:19] <j4s0n> k1l: as soon as you assist
[23:20] <SpaghettiCat> j4s0n:  how do you change the public MD5?
[23:20] <hikenboot> rypervenche, the password does not appear to be "ubuntu" without the quotes
[23:20] <bubbasaures> mguy, This a msdos with mbr's used?
[23:20] <mguy> axel_sieb: tks
[23:20] <mguy> bubbasaures: not sure, ,i think so
[23:20] <rypervenche> hikenboot: Are you using "sudo -i" ?
[23:20] <j4s0n> SpaghettiCat: the attacker would just intercept the transmission at a low level and insert desired MD% on the html page received
[23:20] <rypervenche> hikenboot: Are you talking about the root password? If so, you'll need to set one manually. The ubuntu user's password is "ubuntu" by default though.
[23:21] <cariveri> Hi. How to vpn with someone over the internet ?
[23:21] <bubbasaures> mguy, Can you boot to a live ubuntu, we would fix this there?
[23:21] <rypervenche> hikenboot: I take that back. I think you have passwordless sudo access. You need to set a password manually.
[23:21] <mguy> bubbasaures: I am in one now
[23:21] <bubbasaures> mguy, Cool, pastebin sudo parted -l
[23:22] <SpaghettiCat> j4s0n:  get a torrent. It includes a checksum of the ISO, and good luck to the MITM attacker trying to conceal himself as all those bittorrent peers
[23:22] <hikenboot> ok
[23:22] <mguy> bubbasaures: hold on let me get on irc from the ubuntu computer and not my mac
[23:22] <bubbasaures> mguy, Yeah, that will be best.
[23:22] <mguy> what pastebin site do you want me to use
[23:23] <mrcnja> bubbasaures➤ nomodeset doesn't fix the issue
[23:23] <bubbasaures> !pastebin | mguy here's the bots
[23:23] <swabydeck> mrcnja: do u have EFI
[23:23] <mguy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9033374/
[23:24] <bubbasaures> mrcnja, Ah, just wondered if the hang was just a graphic glitch, not sure beyond that.
[23:24] <mrcnja> I believe so, swabydeck
[23:25] <mguy> bubbasaures: maybe just set boot flag on part 1 since that was /boot ?
[23:25] <swabydeck> mrcnja: You can't boot install
[23:25] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Why didn't the command for i in {1..9}; do mv *S0$iE* Season0$i; done ; do what I thought it was going to do?
[23:25] <bubbasaures> mguy, Run the chroot than run grub-install /dev/sdb than update-grub  http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/07/creating-chroot-ubuntu.html?m=1
[23:25] <reisio> dsnyders: what'd you think it was going to do
[23:26] <skinux> Just to make sure...if I symlink "Documents" directory on Windows parition to /home/<user>/Documents, will the contents located on Windows partition count toward the usage of Linux partition?
[23:26] <beltorak> dsnyders: you need to separate the variable from the other text chars; use ${i}
[23:26] <dsnyders> reisio: put *S01E* into Season01, *S02E* into Season02, etc.
[23:26] <bubbasaures> mguy, boot flag is not really used often in linux.
[23:26] <martyj-o> What exactly does it mean by this?
[23:26] <martyj-o> "error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[23:26] <CyL> Hi, in Xubuntu 14.04 I have python-tk installed, but trying to import tkinter from the interactive interpreter, yelds me an error saying python could'nt find any module named tkinter
[23:27] <reisio> dsnyders: what'd it do instead
[23:27] <dsnyders> reisio: It put everything into Season01
[23:28] <mguy> bubbasaures:  that for loop line isn't running right
[23:28] <mguy> mount: mount point /mnt/temp/dev does not exist
[23:28] <dsnyders> beltorak: do I have to do that on both parameters of the mv command?
[23:29] <bubbasaures> mguy, what was your exact command that failed?
[23:29] <beltorak> dsnyders: anytime it would be ambiguous; bash can't tell the difference between <variable i><E> and <variable iE>...
[23:29] <mguy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt/temp$i; done
[23:29]  * reisio uses quotations around variables
[23:30] <bubbasaures> mguy, what did you run here? sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/temp
[23:32] <mguy> bubbasaures: sdb1 which should have been sdb6 hence not finding those dirs
[23:32] <beltorak> dsnyders: sorry i was distracted; was that explanation clear?
[23:33] <bubbasaures> mguy, Heh, easy mistake, it wants root /
[23:33] <mguy> bubbasaures: yea I figured that out once I read the instructions again :(
[23:33] <mguy> alright let's reboot
[23:34] <bubbasaures> mguy, I just have a copy of supergrub to boot in and run the commands, I rarely chroot on this.
[23:35] <dsnyders> beltorak: Yes, the explanation was clear.  Would it be a prudent policy to always put {} around variables?
[23:35] <rypervenche> dsnyders: It is good practice when you're keeping them next to other characters.
[23:39] <NewRoad> Help! I have a Mac Book Pro 11,3 that I was trying to remove the Ubuntu partition from.. I deleted the partition in Disk Utility, but now I am booting to GRUB. I want to temporarily go back to the standard mac setup
[23:39] <dsnyders> rypervenche, beltorak, reisio:  The {} worked like a charm.  You saved me untold seconds of work of uparrowing and editting command lines that doing each season separately would require.
[23:39] <rypervenche> dsnyders: Cheers :)
[23:39] <beltorak> dsnyders: you're welcome :)
[23:41] <zteam> Hi again all!
[23:41] <swabydeck> NewRoad: You need to boot into osx then figure how to mount the EFI partition with admin rights so you can delete the Ubuntu folder.
[23:42] <NewRoad> swabydeck.. I can't get past the GRUB prompt when I power on the laptop
[23:43] <swabydeck> NewRoad: you can't select osx from grub?
[23:43] <bubbasaures> NewRoad, must be a standard boot reload for apples, not sure many if any will know here, your just stuck with grub from your activities.
[23:43] <NewRoad> no its a GRUB command prompt
[23:43] <NewRoad> swabydeck
[23:44] <zteam> I have some odd issue with the caps lock ied light on my keyboard with Ubuntu , caps lock itself is working as expected but the led light doesn't turn on or off correctly  this works great if I select the guest account but not for my own account
[23:44] <NewRoad> bubbasaures, you mean Apple would have to fix it?
[23:45] <zteam> I already tried deleting .cache .config .local but still no luck :-/
[23:45] <swabydeck> NewRoad: I think there may be keyboard shortcut while booting to select partition to boot from
[23:45] <zteam> any suggestions but creating a new user account?
[23:46] <swabydeck> NewRoad: http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255
[23:46] <k1l> NewRoad: you need to install the old apple bootloader again
[23:46] <bubbasaures> NewRoad, Heh no, just someone who knows this stuff is all, there are #mac and #MacOSX channels among others
[23:46] <k1l> NewRoad: since you removed the ubuntu partitions grub doesnt know what to do now
[23:46] <bubbasaures> NewRoad, This was before anyone chimed in though, so...
[23:47] <swabydeck> NewRoad: try the keyboard shortcuts first.
[23:47] <NewRoad> I was just able to boot to Disk Utility
[23:48] <adino> LU
[23:49] <swabydeck> NewRoad: I am not familiar with Mac but maybe utility can offer boot repair.
[23:50] <NewRoad> yah, trying that
[23:51] <swabydeck> NewRoad: what happens if you hold option key during boot.
[23:51] <NewRoad> thats what got me to the disk utility
[23:51] <NewRoad> I am trying the repair partition option now
[23:52] <swabydeck> NewRoad: hope all the best. Its a pain on Windows to rid ubuntu completely to.
[23:55] <NewRoad> it worked!! thanks guys :D
[23:59] <swabydeck> NewRoad: cool